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Speaker 5: What did your homie say when you see one? What?

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Speaker 5: What does he say? What he said?

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Speaker 2: Brady's Brady?

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Speaker 5: What was he saying?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Crack of yes? Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yesterday said was Yes, that's gotta be the best.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, look, you know, yes, you see one,

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Speaker 3: the way, we didn't make that story, yep, Marv Albert did.

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Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, that's a that's a true story.

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Speaker 1: He took a bite out of crime, I mean took

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Speaker 3: Every Tuesday during the NFL off season, we turned it

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Speaker 3: over to a smooth operator.

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Speaker 5: He is Pete.

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Speaker 3: Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports CBS Sports HQ Analyst,

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Speaker 3: and you can get him on x at Prisco, CBS. Pete,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Happy Saint Patti's Day to you and yours.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is Brady's. Brady's all happy. He's a nice

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Speaker 6: Irish guy on say Patty's Day, probably all checked out

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Speaker 6: in green ripe.

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Speaker 7: Ready, I'm wearing green. Yeah, yeah, I got the all

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Speaker 7: the kids all decked out. It's actually my son's third

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Speaker 7: birthday as well.

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Speaker 5: Manice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not up yet, but we're gonna make sure

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Speaker 4: he has a nice, nice birthday.

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Speaker 2: So what is he like?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Kid number five of twelve?

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Speaker 4: And then he is he's kid number four or five?

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Speaker 2: Pete?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Oh named Brady KRAMERTI.

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Speaker 4: At least I know their names, but that.

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Speaker 3: Is true, Pete. Do you have any plans for Saint

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Speaker 3: Patti's Day? Do you guys celebrate?

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Speaker 6: I got a physical at twelve o'clock.

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Speaker 5: No getting that prostage. You don't get that that poker.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm not. You know what? Now they

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Speaker 6: do blood work and if it doesn't show up high enough,

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Speaker 6: then you don't actually have to have that test until

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Speaker 6: it shows high enough. But I've had that test before.

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Speaker 6: By the way, may I.

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Speaker 1: Just got it done, Pete. I ought to tell everybody

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Speaker 6: No doubt, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: Don't be an ego maniac.

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Speaker 6: I can tell this is a true story once. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm just going to do the blood work.

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Speaker 5: Well done, well done, Oh Pete. All right.

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Speaker 3: So Pete, we were thinking about you because we were

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Speaker 3: discussing this last hour. And I don't know if you'd

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Speaker 3: seen the news, but according to our friends at Drafting

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Speaker 3: Sportsbook Jeremiah Love, the running back is favored to go

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would you know how I feel about that.

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Speaker 6: I know people love the you know, the big play

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Speaker 6: But I just think there's better options for getting guys

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Speaker 7: Well, it's because you used to use this adage that

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Speaker 7: if you do draft him, you just run him into

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Speaker 6: So that's exactly right, that's exactly right. That's the philosophy Brady.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad I talked to you.

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Speaker 7: So So in this case, Pete, if you do find

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Speaker 4: Like cam Ward.

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Speaker 6: Well, Brady, I get it, But then talk to me

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Speaker 6: in four or five years when signed that redo that

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Speaker 6: After all those carries last year won the same running back.

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Speaker 6: They just don't have life expectancy. It just isn't a

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Speaker 6: So I'm in agreement with all the GMS in the

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Speaker 7: Man's there's also some that do put a highigh running

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Speaker 6: So I'd be great one, Brady. I mean, there's no

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Speaker 6: and to be honest about it, it ain't that hard.

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Speaker 5: It's just oh wow, oh wow.

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Speaker 6: It's not that hard. It's not that complicated. Now all

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Speaker 6: a GM. The hard part isn't the football part. It's

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Speaker 6: by the way, I wouldn't be very good at dealing

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Speaker 1: But I do see David Bailey and r VL Reese

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't think either one of them is you

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Speaker 6: they're good pass rushers. I think Reese is good at

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Speaker 6: you can't. I think anytime you take shots at pass rushers,

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Speaker 6: if you think they're worthy of being in that spot,

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Speaker 3: Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

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Speaker 3: NFL columnists for CBS, Sports CBS, Sports HQ analysts. You

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Speaker 3: can get him on X at Prisco CBS. All right,

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Speaker 3: so now that the you know, we've sort of let

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Speaker 3: everything calm down, even though you know Max Crosby was

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Speaker 6: They listened to me, that's what happened. If you go

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Speaker 1: To on a physical and you can flunk anybody you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that is.

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Speaker 4: So that's the other thing people don't talk about.

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Speaker 7: They put waivers in contracts all the time for players.

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Speaker 6: Yeah they can, right. But by the way, like Elijah

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Speaker 6: They wised up. This is that was a good football

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Speaker 7: Wow, Pete, we saw the news of Justin Field's getting

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Speaker 7: Is that how you see this plan out?

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Speaker 6: No, he's a backer. He's now a backup quarterback, and

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Speaker 6: He's not what's he gonna do. He's gonna play, he's

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Speaker 7: Everybody, okay, So so so I'd give you an example

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Speaker 7: You had, you had, you had Daniel Jones who didn't

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Speaker 7: That worked out well, Darwin got thrust it into it,

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Speaker 4: We has thirty.

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Speaker 7: So there's been callous examples of this. You're saying he's

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Speaker 6: Super Bowls too, remember after being a being a flop

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying he's he's only twenty six. He's got tidy.

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Speaker 6: You are what you are. You want me to say it,

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Speaker 6: I'll say it. You are what you are. Always bubbles.

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Speaker 7: Well, I guess I guess Sam Donald's a super Bowl

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Speaker 9: He as you know, said Pete.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how about them? At winning super Bowl winning quarterback

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Speaker 4: So come on, we'll tell him that next time you

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Speaker 7: He's got that big ring on and you're just sitting

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Speaker 6: He played well. He played well, by the way, I

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Speaker 6: But just because one does it doesn't mean fourteen are

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Speaker 6: million dollars. They could have tried to get Kyler Murray

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Speaker 6: better option for him. That's what they should have done.

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Speaker 7: So you're not Daniel Jones in the first half. What

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Speaker 6: And what happened to him was the last part of

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Speaker 4: He wasn't as hot, but he was still playing well.

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Speaker 6: Usually you know what why, here's what happens, Brady. You

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Speaker 6: You always become who you are. It's never gonna be

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, everybody uses Baker Mayfield. Baker Makefield

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Speaker 6: He was good in Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: He was going to be good, so you know, but

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's examples.

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Speaker 7: Exactly so that sometimes it takes a while for these

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Speaker 6: It sounds like it's personal, Brady, like it's speaking.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's a personal it's trying to provide perspective because

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Speaker 6: Me ask you this, you went to Cleveland, you didn't

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Speaker 4: I would have liked to think.

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of players think that that, like,

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Speaker 2: We always make this.

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Speaker 8: About the quarterback as the post child.

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Speaker 7: For you are what you are well, and here's what

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Speaker 7: if you saw a young coach like a Sean McVay

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Speaker 7: going to Super Bowls. It's the same thing with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: You see certain kids like I remember seeing Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 7: I've never seen anyone at that age throw the football

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Speaker 7: there are outliers to all of that, right, and like

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And then so those guys, I think, no matter

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Speaker 6: But Brady justin Field has had a couple of different

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Speaker 5: He wasn't.

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Speaker 7: What I'm saying is he now has the time because

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Speaker 7: Even though he could run, even though he had a

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Speaker 4: So they and by the way, that was that was

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Speaker 7: You know, Ben Johnson, if he had had him, probably

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Speaker 4: Would you disagree with that?

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Speaker 7: Take into account this, he now has the chance to

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Speaker 4: Well, he'll be better from it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I disagree with you. I think you're a backup,

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Speaker 6: He's a backup. Now he's played he's played himself into

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Speaker 5: Geez, Pete, are you how on Casey or Low?

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Speaker 6: As long as Mahomes come back, they're fine. I mean,

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Speaker 6: You know, Chris Jones are getting up in the years

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Speaker 5: So no, I just wanted to say to Pete Risco.

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Speaker 3: Worst free agent signing of this free agency class in

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Speaker 6: I mean they went and got Geno Smith, and they

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Speaker 6: I'm with you. I'm with you, Brady. It's a good

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Speaker 6: draft for quarterbacks, which is why you should tank. I

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Speaker 6: mean I would, I would if it was up to me.

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Speaker 6: And people hate hearing that, but that's true. What's better

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Speaker 6: for the organization is to have leak Willis play and

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Speaker 6: you win four games, or he doesn't play and you

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Speaker 6: win one, then you get a franchise quarterback next year.

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Speaker 6: What's better for the organization.

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Speaker 7: I would also look at it this way, Sue, from

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Speaker 7: a cap perspective. You know, you're going to spend a

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Speaker 7: lot less on those six guys next year for those

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Speaker 7: teams and have four years of them to see what

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Speaker 7: you've got in them, or at least three, and it's

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Speaker 7: it's and you're gonna build out around you know that

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Speaker 7: that position, and so it's a lot cheap. Are doing

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Speaker 7: it that way than signing Daniel Jones or whoever else

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Speaker 7: who's being.

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Speaker 6: Paid for We are, we were, we are in one

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Speaker 6: hundred agreement on that, by the way that that that's

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Speaker 6: that's the way to do it. And and then if

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Speaker 6: you draft one and in three years he stinks, you

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Speaker 6: draft another one. That's what you do. You just keep

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Speaker 6: trying to fill that position with a star player. Because

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Speaker 6: once you fill that position with a star player, You're

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Speaker 6: going to have sustainable success. It's going to happen. You

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Speaker 6: don't have to worry about it. You're going to be there.

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Speaker 6: You might not win it every year, but you're going

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Speaker 6: to be around once you fill that position with a

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Speaker 6: star player. If you don't have that guy, everything has

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Speaker 6: to go right have any sort of chance. The ball

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Speaker 6: has to bounce your way. You gotta be dominant on defense.

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Speaker 6: You got to run the ball. You can't. You can't

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Speaker 6: rely on the quarterback. So I think that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 6: A great quarterback brings you sustainable success. The one teams

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Speaker 6: that don't have it, you might have those aberration years,

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Speaker 6: but from there on you're gonna fall off the face

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Speaker 6: of the earth.

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Speaker 5: Well, Pete, that's appropriate.

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Speaker 3: That's an appropriate way to conclude this epic performance by you.

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Speaker 5: Happy Saint Patti's Day.

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Speaker 3: Go, get you a green beer, do whatever you gotta do,

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Speaker 3: some corn beef and cabbage and celebrate and enjoy.

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Speaker 6: Does anybody really eat corn beef and cabbage?

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Speaker 5: By the way, Jonas does.

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Speaker 4: Jonas loves it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, Hity Brady.

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Speaker 6: You don't need that, do you.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I'm not one of those guys who it's that. Jonas

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Speaker 7: will say he does, but he actually doesn't need anither.

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Speaker 6: I all right now, if you put it, it's the

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Speaker 6: cabbage part of it's disgusting, and.

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Speaker 2: I love cabbage.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely love cabbage.

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Speaker 7: Pete, can you give us some Saint Patrick's Day tips

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Speaker 7: out there, all the listeners. I mean, you've been through

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Speaker 7: a number of Saint Patrick's Days where you've probably locked

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Speaker 7: a little little too much.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's put it this way. Back in the day,

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Speaker 6: we used to start in the morning and just go

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Speaker 6: all day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to do that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we can't do that anymore. I'd be dead tomorrow,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, we used to do We used to start

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Speaker 6: it like the bar would open. He start at like

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Speaker 6: ten in the morning, just keep going, going.

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Speaker 3: All day, the good old days. Pete, we love you.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 6: Ahi, guy, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby was on his pod cast, the Rush Podcast,

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Speaker 3: and he was giving details as to what that fateful

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Speaker 3: through last week. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 12: I didn't get to see the GM at all. I

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Speaker 12: just tell like the energy was a little bit off.

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Speaker 12: And the GM was standing in like the hall, like

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Speaker 12: that was the first time I seen him.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just in.

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Speaker 12: My head like I'm just this a whirlwind, like I'm

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Speaker 12: so excited, like fired up, you know what i mean,

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Speaker 12: Like this is new opportunity whatever. And you could just

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Speaker 12: tell the energy was off. Like I dapped him up,

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Speaker 12: he had like a blank face and go into the room.

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Speaker 12: They sent me down on the couch and he's like, man,

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Speaker 12: I don't know how to say this, but you know,

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Speaker 12: one of our doctors has concerns with you know, with

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Speaker 12: the results and whatever, like with your knee, like some

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Speaker 12: of them have, you know, are concerned about the future

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Speaker 12: and da da da da da, and you know, we

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Speaker 12: really want you and this is what it is. But

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Speaker 12: you know, we're just gonna have to get more and

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Speaker 12: more opinions. I get back to the Hotel bro I'm like,

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Speaker 12: what the going on? Like what what does this mean?

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Speaker 12: Like I'm calling whatever. Then I talked to Neil and

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Speaker 12: Neil calls me and he called me way down. He's like, Max,

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Speaker 12: don't listen to any of that. He's like, your knee

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Speaker 12: is great. You're exactly where you're supposed to be or

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Speaker 12: even ahead of schedule. He's like, you're doing everything right.

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Speaker 12: He's like, they know you had your surgery nine weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: So Max Crosby telling the tale of his interaction with

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Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens upon visiting and finding out that they're

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Speaker 3: going to need to get some second opinions on his knee.

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Speaker 3: It's just, you know, I took it at face value.

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Speaker 3: Originally when the story came out of well listen, you know,

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Speaker 3: and there's going to be a problem with that moving forward.

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Speaker 3: And then as the day went on and more information

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Speaker 3: started coming out, you just started to realize, Oh no,

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Speaker 3: they just wanted to get out of the deal, Like

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Speaker 3: they just wanted to walk away from it because they

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Speaker 3: realized we could keep our first round picks, we could

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Speaker 3: sign Trey Hendrickson, and and you know, we'll just we'll

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Speaker 3: just deal with whatever.

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Speaker 5: Blowback we get.

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Speaker 3: And I do wonder because I know that people have

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Speaker 3: said that this is a bad look for the Ravens organization.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad look, et cetera, et cetera. But ultimately,

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Speaker 3: is any of this stuff going to matter down the road?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is anybody just not going to want to

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Speaker 3: do business with Baltimore because of this? Because Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: clearly did minutes afterwards, So like like that's why I

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Speaker 3: hear it. I go, I get it. But it's not

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Speaker 3: going to change anything.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's it's not going to change anything for

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Speaker 7: a few reasons. One, as you point out, no one's

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Speaker 7: going to hold that against Baltimore. It happens all the time.

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Speaker 7: We Lavard I touched on this yesterday with Pete. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if they want to do the deal, they can do

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Speaker 7: the deal. You would take out an injury waiver that

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Speaker 7: you put within your contract, and that can stipulate a

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Speaker 7: bunch of different things.

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Speaker 4: It could be, hey, if you.

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Speaker 7: Injure that knee again, your v of any guarantees in

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Speaker 7: the deal, like that specific injury. They could go as

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Speaker 7: far as saying, if you have an injury that occurs

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Speaker 7: as a result of that prior injury or that knee,

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Speaker 7: you don't get any guarantees either. I Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 7: we're not paying for your surgery if you don't do

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Speaker 7: it with our guys and you don't rehab in house

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Speaker 7: with us. So there's all sorts of different stipulations they

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Speaker 7: can put in these contracts. I say all that because,

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Speaker 7: like that was where I was at at the end

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Speaker 7: of my career with a back injury, and you know,

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Speaker 7: my agent said, hey, I don't advise you signed this.

657
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Speaker 7: And I said, well, if this is what it's going

658
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Speaker 7: to be, I don't have any other option if I want.

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Speaker 4: To keep playing.

660
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Speaker 7: And he's like, okay, well, I'm gonna send you a

661
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Speaker 7: letter beas he tells you of advising you not to

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Speaker 7: sign this.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, just because they didn't want a legal obligation if

665
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Speaker 7: I was to go into that. Anything happened, then I

666
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Speaker 7: would sue them. So if they want to do the deal,

667
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Speaker 7: they could have done the deal. I think they use

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Speaker 7: this as a way of g heading out of it

669
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Speaker 7: because the market wasn't it's hot for Trey Hendrickson, they

670
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Speaker 7: didn't have to give up draft capital. And although he's

671
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Speaker 7: a bit older, it's he's still been a very productive

672
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Speaker 7: edge usher. So it fits a lot of molds. Neil

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Speaker 7: Latrosh I believe I'm proouncing the last name appropriately who

674
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Speaker 7: Max Crosby talked about that he called that is the

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Speaker 7: surgeon that a lot of folks in the LA area

676
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Speaker 7: should know. I believe he operates SARS out of Cedar SINAI.

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Speaker 7: He's the Rams, the Dodgers team physician. Uh notre dame

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Speaker 7: alum what, but he's he's he is one of the

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Speaker 7: best in the entire country. Like this is you know,

680
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Speaker 7: one of those guys very similar to James Andrews.

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Speaker 4: You know you'd always hear that name for surgeries.

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Speaker 7: He's he's that guy now, and so you know, if

683
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Speaker 7: you've got his vote of confidence, clearly.

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Speaker 4: You know it's it's not the injury, it's not whatever

685
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Speaker 4: their doctors.

686
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Speaker 7: Made up some excuse in Baltimore to say so, I

687
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Speaker 7: don't think this will have any long term effect for

688
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Speaker 7: all those reasons, but also because the nfl P is

689
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Speaker 7: not gonna do anything about it. You know what, what

690
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: what can they really do about this to prevent you know,

691
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Speaker 7: players from losing out on an opportunity like this if

692
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Speaker 7: they want to go somewhere else, like it's a medical opinion,

693
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Speaker 7: and it's happened often, It's happened throughout history. Talked about

694
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Speaker 7: Drew Brees, Dante Culpepper, you know, that whole scenario with

695
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Speaker 7: the Miami Dolphins. And the reality is is you're not

696
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Speaker 7: gonna be able to put anything in place. It's going

697
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Speaker 7: to protect players from a team using their medical staff

698
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Speaker 7: to you know, feel physical and and and shut down

699
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Speaker 7: a deal.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh.

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Speaker 1: And the answer is no, it doesn't impact business. Their

702
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Speaker 1: their reputation is just way too it's just way too

703
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Speaker 1: good of a reputation if you ask me.

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Speaker 5: And and.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's unfortunate that it panned out the way

706
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Speaker 1: that it did for for Max in this this scenario,

707
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Speaker 1: but business is business, and I think I think again,

708
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Speaker 1: looking at it from a very critical eye, they backed

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Speaker 1: out of a deal that they saw an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: go in a different direction to to make their team better.

711
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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. Maybe it isn't the most most

712
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: insanely moral, morally sound move to do or or business integrity,

713
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Speaker 1: but nonetheless they made the decision. And is anybody gonna

714
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Speaker 1: here's a better question? Is anyone or not a better question?

715
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Speaker 1: Just a different Is anybody going to question the fact that, Okay,

716
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Speaker 1: they they aired on the side of caution with Max Crosby.

717
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Speaker 1: We know there wasn'tny surgery, we know there was a

718
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, a cleanup of the cartilage, and they go

719
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Speaker 1: with Trey Hendrickson. Is there any is there any blowback

720
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Speaker 1: to saying that was a horrible move.

721
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Speaker 5: That's why I look at it.

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Speaker 3: I go, if you got to choose, you can have

723
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Speaker 3: Max Crosby or Trey Hendon in two first round picks.

724
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Max Crosby is a great player. I'll take

725
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Speaker 3: the other. So, yeah, they did the right thing. It's

726
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Speaker 3: just the way they handled it. But there's a lot

727
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Speaker 3: of times that happens in life. To wheres Man, you

728
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Speaker 3: probably should have handled that better. You made the right decision,

729
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Speaker 3: but you know, maybe you shouldn't have, you know, done

730
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Speaker 3: what you did to get there and Baltimore, I just

731
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Speaker 3: look at it and I go all these people piling

732
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: on and said, well, you know, it's it's a bad look.

733
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Speaker 3: It said, it's a bad it's this, it's a bad example.

734
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Speaker 3: This is not how you do business. All right, Okay, okay,

735
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Speaker 3: So what are Ravens fans going to be like?

736
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Speaker 5: Man, well, we you know, we're out of here.

737
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Speaker 3: We can't support this team and you're forgetting that used

738
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Speaker 3: to be the Browns. So that probably wasn't the best

739
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Speaker 3: way they handled that move either. So there was that.

740
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Speaker 3: There's been all sorts of stuff that's happened with every

741
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Speaker 3: organization around around the NFL. It's just it's the way

742
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Speaker 3: it worked.

743
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Speaker 5: Word, it's the way it works.

744
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Speaker 1: And to that point, I mean, should Max Crosby have

745
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: any hard feelings?

746
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like, I think that's the

747
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: bigger question.

748
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Speaker 1: And if I am him, yes, I do have heart

749
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Speaker 1: feelings because that in a way taints my It taints me,

750
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Speaker 1: It takes away my value so to speak. Like if

751
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm the next team, do I want to take a chance?

752
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Are you going to be the team that takes the

753
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: chance and signs them and then something goes bad with

754
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: his knee, and now you got to deal with the

755
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: whole kne deal. I just it's just that's the that's

756
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: the one where I'm like, I don't like the way

757
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: it played out because it puts him in a bad position.

758
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Speaker 3: It is interesting though, that people are ripping the Ravens and.

759
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: All these people are taking of man.

760
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: The Raiders tried to do solid business, but Baltimore screwed

761
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Speaker 3: him over, et cetera, et cetera, when it was the

762
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Speaker 3: Raiders who rested him the last two games when he

763
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Speaker 3: didn't want to. Yes, they were trying to tang, no doubt.

764
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Speaker 3: So this story started with the Raiders not doing things

765
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Speaker 3: on the up and up and then ended with Baltimore.

766
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Speaker 3: But everybody forgets about the Raiders involving and all this,

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Speaker 13: Pe Good morning, Good morning, Hello, Hi Petros, Hello, hello morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right, I'm here, you're hearing here? Ready

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Speaker 2: to work?

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Speaker 5: All right, ready to work? Hey did you date growing up?

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Speaker 5: By the way, like were you a dater?

819
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Speaker 1: Like were you like, excuse me, were you a dater

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Speaker 1: like back before you got look like you're.

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Speaker 5: Good looking dude? Stop, you know, very nice, you're good

822
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Speaker 5: looking dude.

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Speaker 2: No, not really, I mean I guess, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did you just fall into your your relationship

825
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Speaker 1: and end up getting married wife?

826
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got lucky. It was it a hookup?

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Speaker 1: I was I was asking because they say it's very

828
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Speaker 1: hard to date these days, and there's a mixer that

829
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Speaker 1: they're paying hundreds of dollars to go to and speed date.

830
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Speaker 1: Women are paying and it's like three to one three women.

831
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Speaker 1: The one guy that gets to end these dating deal

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, what was it like for you

833
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Speaker 1: when you were dating?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I I wasn't ready for this.

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Speaker 5: Ah yeah, I like to catch you off guard a

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Speaker 5: little bit. Lumber.

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Speaker 13: Well, I grew up in a restaurant, so I know

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Speaker 13: how to like a nice restaurant, So I know how

839
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Speaker 13: to like go to restaurants and sit down and have

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Speaker 13: dinner and and I know I used to know like

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Speaker 13: old la restaurants and bars, so I had my style.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, that was it.

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Speaker 1: That was just saying, you know, all right, that was

844
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Speaker 1: that was the big Petros.

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Speaker 4: I've seen some shots of you when you were young.

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Speaker 4: I have no doubt you didn't have any problem, uh

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Speaker 4: finding a plus one some of this.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I graduated high school to virgin I think,

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Speaker 13: oh wow, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think, well it depends.

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Speaker 4: There's there's loose interpretations of what that means.

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Speaker 2: There is. But yeah, I mean, if.

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Speaker 4: You're going to Provo, Utah, they've got.

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Speaker 5: Loreno.

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Speaker 1: Was planning to drop earlier a lot Jesus, okay, I

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Speaker 1: was just figuring out sports.

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Speaker 4: Can I get to Wally? What's topical for us?

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Speaker 7: What is happening at USC Petros with this whole number,

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Speaker 7: the number of wide, it's number being unretired or it's

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Speaker 7: staying retired.

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Speaker 4: What's happening with all that?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Alright?

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Speaker 2: Could we go back to my dating history? Look, come on, no.

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Speaker 13: I I uh well, let's just say what I used

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Speaker 13: to like to do.

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Speaker 2: Was I take a girl.

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Speaker 13: To Dantannas Okay, right, which is a favoite, such a

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Speaker 13: good spot, LOLd Italian restaurant that's actually owned by a

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Speaker 13: sirve Dan Tanna. And the bartender was a famous Croatian

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Speaker 13: named Mike and he died at Covid but.

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Speaker 5: And then the the.

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Speaker 13: Matre d for many many years was the guy Craig

874
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 13: who went and opened Craigs Kidd, which is there now,

875
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 13: but I've never been there.

876
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a douche.

877
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 13: But I used to take them to Dantanna's and I'd sit,

878
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 13: we'd sit in the little cove right under the Marijuana

879
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 13: Murderer of Youth or whatever poster, and we would have

880
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 13: dinner and then i'd take him over to Trader Vix.

881
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: When it was open.

882
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 5: Now, what's Trader Vix.

883
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 13: Trader Vix was a very old famous Hawaiian Polynesian style

884
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 13: restaurant chain that was very that's coming back. I think

885
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 13: most of them are closed, but the one that was

886
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 13: on on Wilshire and Santa Monica is closed. And that

887
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 13: was the premiere location in LA of any place, Wilshire

888
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 13: Santa Monica where they cross right in front of the

889
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 13: Beverly Wilshire Hotel or excuse me, the Beverly Hilton Hotel,

890
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 13: MERVS and MERV Griffin's Beverly Hilton. So what I would

891
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 13: do is I'd take them to Trader Vix and then

892
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 13: i'd get them in the car after Trader Vix and I'd.

893
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: Say, look, I've had a little too much to drink.

894
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a room here at MERVS The

895
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Beverly Hilton. I'm going to get you a cab home

896
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: because I just don't feel comfortable.

897
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're going to help you to your room.

898
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, and they would say no, no, I'd love to stay.

899
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 13: I'd say, well, okay, as long as you don't try anything.

900
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: So if you want to know my dating style, that was.

901
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: My dating extent, you're taking off all the reverse psychology.

902
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 13: Dantanna's first and then and then Trader Vicks and the

903
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 13: and then MERVS which was my style. But anyway, as

904
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 13: far as the Matt Liner Jersey thing, where he went

905
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 13: on a podcast with the Turtle Guy and told him

906
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 13: that they've always asked him to give up his number,

907
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 13: but he won't do it unless it's.

908
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: One of his sons.

909
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 13: And one of his sons is an SMU, he said,

910
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 13: my one son is not there quote unquote right now.

911
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 5: Right, So he's saving it for his kid, is what

912
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 5: he's doing.

913
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

914
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 13: I mean, look, he does a lot of filating the

915
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 13: school and getting beneficial treatment and financial opportunities for doing

916
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 13: so and then handles a question about his jersey like

917
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 13: a tough guy. Is kind of funny to me, but

918
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 13: whatever I mean, nobody should have to give up their jersey.

919
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 13: No one should be asked to give up their jersey.

920
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 13: This was a precedent that was set at USC in

921
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 13: the Mike Garrett era. Mike Garrett, for was us He's

922
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 13: first Heisman winner. And uh, he's the guy that scored

923
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 13: on the whatever sixty four or sixty eight toss power

924
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 13: trap in the Kansas City Chief Super Bowl Game. And

925
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 13: Mike Garrett was us He's first Heisman winner. As I said,

926
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 13: his number twenty was retired for forever, and he was

927
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 13: the ad and he took it out of retirement and

928
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 13: gave it to his safety by the name of Darnell

929
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 13: Byng at a long beach.

930
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Remember Darnell Byng.

931
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, man.

932
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 13: And and Darnell bing was. He was a good player,

933
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 13: he was a huge recruit. But he certainly wasn't worthy

934
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 13: of taking the number off the off of the rafters.

935
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 13: But they did it, and that set a precedent, and

936
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 13: so that happened. And then Carson Palmer, Yeah, Carson Palmer

937
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 13: gave his number three to Jeordan Madison, who's turned out

938
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 13: to be a great citizen, and that was and Addison

939
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 13: I think only played about nine nine games until he

940
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 13: got hurt. But Carson took his number off, number three.

941
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 13: And you know, if you're going to have a retired number,

942
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 13: then retire the damn number. I've always thought, that's always

943
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 13: been my feeling. If somebody's kid wants to wear the number,

944
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 13: and that's okay with everybody, then I.

945
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Guess that's okay too.

946
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 13: But acting all hard about it, like Lioner when you're

947
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 13: on a thing with Turtle, like you basically like everything

948
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 13: us he asked you, you don't do immediately saying thank

949
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 13: you sir, May I have another is pretty funny, Like,

950
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 13: don't act like a hard ass on a podcast when

951
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 13: when basically all you do is flate them.

952
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 5: That's interesting, great, you asked me.

953
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 7: Well No, The reason why I think it's really interesting is, like,

954
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 7: you know, this is every school does it differently.

955
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: Everyone's got their own opinion on it. And he obviously

956
00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 4: had a.

957
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 7: Story career, so it's retired, like, so he gets to

958
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 7: make that decision. It's it's his choice and to me,

959
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 7: but then you look at like I look at LeVar, Like,

960
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 7: look what Penn State and LeVar I have done with

961
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 7: eleven is they've made it where it's there's a lineage

962
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 7: to it, like it's like its own brand.

963
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: Its own deal.

964
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 7: And I always wonder, I mean, a Notre Dame obviously

965
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 7: didn't retire numbers, so they're kind of in a similar

966
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 7: category in that sense. But like when I was in

967
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 7: high school, you know, our high school quarterback when he started,

968
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 7: he wore the number ten, and so I remember Chad Jenkins,

969
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 7: I remember Brian Camp, I remember all the guys before me.

970
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 7: So when you got that opportunity, you're like, dude, this

971
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 7: is it. This is like that big, big thing. I'm

972
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 7: sure it's the same way at Penn State with number eleven.

973
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, absolutely it is.

974
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: And I don't want to take the you know, take

975
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: the segment away from from Petros, but yeah, I mean

976
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: Penn State isn't big on retiring jerseys. I think there's

977
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: like one or two jerseys that are retired. They'll tear

978
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: a statue down though, hold on, slow down, slow down

979
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: with that. But I will say I will say for me,

980
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: strategically speaking, I never wanted my jersey retired because I

981
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: went in with the idea that I wanted to wear

982
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: a number that was unique to our position. Like I looked,

983
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: searched far and wide, high and low to see if

984
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: there was somebody who had wore the number that I

985
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: was thinking, so that there wouldn't be any confusion as

986
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to your playing linebacker. You're wearing this number. I know

987
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: why you're wearing that number. That was my thought at first,

988
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: but then it became a thing like I helped recruit,

989
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, I helped recruit, and the way I helped recruit,

990
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: like some of the most high profile guys, or at

991
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: least who we felt were the most high profile guys.

992
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I used my jersey number, like why go here to

993
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: this school over here when you could come to this

994
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: school we're eleven and blow you up. Now, that wasn't

995
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: the original thought of it. I gave it to Navarre

996
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Bowman first cousin. You know, we were rebranding him. He

997
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: had some some situations that required a little brand, you know,

998
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: brand reconstruction, and it was almost like an Apollo Creek

999
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: giving his you know us a flag shorts to uh

1000
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to Rocky.

1001
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 5: That's like where I got the idea from. And that

1002
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: was how it all started.

1003
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: But how did Apollo give Rocky the shorts while he

1004
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: was dead?

1005
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: I know, but no, no, he gave him. He gave

1006
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: him the shorts for the club or lang fight. Didn't

1007
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't it the clubb lang fight? He gave him

1008
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: in shorts.

1009
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 14: Living in America he brought he brought the shorts out

1010
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 14: of the Yeah, I think he brought the shorts out

1011
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 14: of retirement to fight Ivan Drago and got got murdered,

1012
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 14: murked out.

1013
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 5: But I think didn't he wear them against murked out?

1014
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1015
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: He got?

1016
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: You got Rocky three?

1017
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you got? He might have Yeah, not sure.

1018
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: But rob consider that murder if they get killed in

1019
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: like a fuck.

1020
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean he murked him out like

1021
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: he beat his ass. I mean he beat him to death.

1022
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: You know it wasn't obviously you're not going to Petros.

1023
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: Did you pick number thirty five at USC for Christian

1024
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Kakoye or what?

1025
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Guys? I haven't played football years.

1026
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 13: From the number thirty five at USC used to be

1027
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 13: a white linebacker number that was worn by an All

1028
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 13: American who's now past named Scott Ross and another guy

1029
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 13: named Jeff Kopp and Ricky Allison who was named Ricky

1030
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 13: Gray back then War thirty five. So my brother was

1031
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 13: a white linebacker and they had thirty what else would

1032
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 13: you have been, well, I don't know, nose tackle. Oh,

1033
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 13: they had their position. Yeah, they had thirty five on him.

1034
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 13: And when his leg fell off or whatever and or

1035
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 13: his second acl happened, and so they asked me to

1036
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 13: wear it. So it came over to the offensive side

1037
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 13: and I wore it, and then Pete Carroll took over

1038
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 13: and didn't care about the number anymore at all and

1039
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 13: put it on a punter.

1040
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1041
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, offensive guys, we're eleven at Penn

1042
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: State two Q. You know, just just so it's not.

1043
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 7: Like I knew that, but you know, we kind of

1044
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 7: paid more attention to the guys on.

1045
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Right of course. Yeah that where yeah, yeah, But if

1046
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: I would say this, if if my number was retired

1047
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: by the school, then that is my number. Now you

1048
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: have you have officially given me that number. That is

1049
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: my number, exclusively my number, because you don't want you

1050
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: basically said whatever it is, I've done that in your

1051
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: old spice.

1052
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: My old spice.

1053
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: If they've given you that distinction, then one you have

1054
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: the right to decide if you wanted to be unretired

1055
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: or not one and then two. I think I think,

1056
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: however you feel about it, I don't think there's a

1057
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: right or wrong answer. If you if you're okay with

1058
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: letting somebody else wear it, then you're okay with it.

1059
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: If you're not, then people should be okay with that too.

1060
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there should be any type of life

1061
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: fallout over it.

1062
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't think of usc. They shouldn't even wear numbers.

1063
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 13: They should just wear like a like a pisicy sign

1064
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 13: or like AI because they don't play Notre Dame anymore,

1065
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 13: so it's not even like they're playing real football.

1066
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: It's a great point.

1067
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: You know what my number is going to be a

1068
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: yang and yang.

1069
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: Like a sword like you know, like like you know,

1070
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: like the Crusaders are Trojans's.

1071
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: Oh all right, well they you know their choices that.

1072
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 7: Now.

1073
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 3: I want to get you the Petrospapaegas joining us here

1074
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. I know that there are some people,

1075
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: even some people who are you know, prominent members of

1076
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: the A M five seventy family, uh, that are not.

1077
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Fans the LA station. Yes together.

1078
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Last week, yeah, we did we did a couple of

1079
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: shows George once again.

1080
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, but there are some people that are not

1081
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: fans of the WBC. And now that it is concluded

1082
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: yet again and you see the Venezuelans celebrating just the

1083
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: momentous occasion. What is your takeaway from the World Baseball Classic?

1084
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: Because I think it's kind of awesome. I get the

1085
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: pushback on it, but I think the celebration, especially if

1086
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: the international teams, makes it worthwhile.

1087
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 13: It's good TV because you get the international celebration and

1088
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 13: you get all the different fans having a good time,

1089
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 13: And like we talked about I think a couple of

1090
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 13: weeks ago or last week, it's something cool to see

1091
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 13: different people from different places in community and that they

1092
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 13: actually like sitting together in a game and cheering together

1093
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 13: and playing instruments.

1094
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: And singing songs and all this stuff.

1095
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 13: And we don't have as much of that here because

1096
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 13: we're all elitist douchebags and want to sit in a suite.

1097
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 13: But that part of it is really cool. But I mean,

1098
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 13: how much how much do we really care? How important

1099
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 13: is it really if the US manager doesn't know the

1100
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 13: rules and he's not really a manager, he's just a

1101
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 13: smart Ivy League guy who sits on a panel on

1102
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 13: MLB Network, And that's really the truth, right, that's Terrosa,

1103
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 13: that's his role. So it feels a little bit manufactured

1104
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 13: when you do that. Also, I think what was the

1105
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 13: comparison you made if you once took a dump in

1106
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 13: an olive garden they let you play for Team Italy.

1107
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 13: I believe Jonah said that. So that kind of stuff

1108
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 13: is I mean, it's loosely I.

1109
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 15: Believe that's changed a bit, but yeah, it's loosely created

1110
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 15: to be a TV event tail and they've done a

1111
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 15: great job making it a TV event, and they've done

1112
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 15: a great job helping people kind of get into it

1113
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 15: because I remember what was it like ten years ago,

1114
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 15: longer than that this would happen, and nobody cared at

1115
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 15: all and they couldn't get any newbody to play.

1116
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: They didn't care at all.

1117
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I.

1118
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 13: Mean it wasn't much of an I mean, it didn't

1119
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 13: have a lot of momentum doing radio. For the last

1120
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 13: twenty years this has been going on, and it hasn't

1121
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 13: I mean, it really hasn't moved the needle much at

1122
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 13: all ever since the Otawnian Trout moment. I think that

1123
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 13: caught people's attention, and there's more and more momentum.

1124
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 7: Japan is a huge deal once we took Maduro. I

1125
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 7: think that put a little bit more on the line

1126
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 7: last night.

1127
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1128
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 13: You know, political unrest makes it even more interesting. You know,

1129
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 13: everybody was celebrating the US hockey team US Hockey, US Hockey.

1130
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: And no one, no one mentioned that the Russians weren't.

1131
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 13: There, like like, that's like the best team or one

1132
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 13: of the best teams.

1133
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the best.

1134
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: I've got some inside insight into that.

1135
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: What's the inside insight they all have, SI.

1136
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 7: There's some good players, but they feel like they're not

1137
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 7: a great team together.

1138
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 13: Well either way, they didn't get a chance to compete

1139
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 13: and prove it at all. So it is interesting. You know,

1140
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 13: there's all kinds of social elements that go into it.

1141
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 13: But I think you're absolutely right. The star of the

1142
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 13: World Baseball Classic, if it's not Team Japan, is the crowds.

1143
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 13: Is the foreign crowds that make it so much fun

1144
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 13: to watch, And that part of it is cool. But

1145
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 13: if your manager doesn't actually know the rules at all,

1146
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 13: and neither does the GM, how important could it possibly

1147
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 13: be to the United States. If it was important to

1148
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 13: the United States, they would have the guy that coaches

1149
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 13: manages most of the United States tournaments be the coach,

1150
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 13: right Mike Sosha. But instead they didn't. They had a

1151
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 13: TV guy out there to promote their network. And I

1152
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 13: think overall, my favorite meme I saw this morning was

1153
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 13: a picture of Durosas saying, don't worry, guys, best out

1154
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 13: of five, we'll get them tomorrow.

1155
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 5: So you're not blaming Aaron Judge for them losing.

1156
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: They're going to live that down.

1157
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 13: Aaron Judge is notoriously not a big game play according

1158
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 13: to a lot of these I mean, last time I

1159
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 13: saw Aaron Judge in a big game he dropped a

1160
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 13: fly ball in the World Series, so that but I

1161
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 13: I don't think. I think the players that do the

1162
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 13: World Baseball Classic are happy to be playing in meaningful

1163
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 13: games and not be stuck in spring training, which I

1164
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 13: think is a grind.

1165
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: It's not as bad as football camp, but it's close.

1166
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 13: So I think that they all have the opportunity to

1167
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 13: be somewhere else and they take it. But how much

1168
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 13: it mars them or follows them for the rest of

1169
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 13: the year, or how much people are going to be like,

1170
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 13: Aaron Judge is a choker because the World Baseball Classic.

1171
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know how much that's going to

1172
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: be prevalent.

1173
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 13: I mean, you can call him a choker for the

1174
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 13: World Series or something like that, But I think this

1175
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 13: kind of thing is not I don't think it has

1176
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 13: legs to follow the baseball season and have us keep

1177
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 13: talking about it like the trout O Tawny thing that

1178
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 13: we actually did talk about for a long time.

1179
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 7: Petros, I know you worked with Jonas a little bit

1180
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 7: last week to tell us what it's like your experience

1181
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 7: working with him, because obviously you just dropped the Olive

1182
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 7: Garden reference to the qualifications to be on Team Italy,

1183
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 7: which he did not drop on our show. So I

1184
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 7: want you to know he's saving some of his best

1185
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 7: material for you.

1186
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1187
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 10: He Uh.

1188
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: I had a great time with the way.

1189
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 13: I love having Jonahs co host, and the listeners love

1190
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 13: having Jonas co host.

1191
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: Uh not, you know, not everybody loves everybody. There's always

1192
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 2: some push back.

1193
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 4: Well, he'll retweet that to make sure it's known. Does

1194
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: does he give you that fairly look?

1195
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 7: Does he give you that squirrely look when he's about

1196
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: ready to do something. You can kind of see it coming.

1197
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 2: No, Uh, he prepares.

1198
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 13: Uh, you know, he's got stuff to He writes things,

1199
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 13: which I appreciate, you know, comes in like I don't

1200
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 13: have to have somebody else write it for him or

1201
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 13: write write it for him like we do with some

1202
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 13: other guys. So that's I like that part of it.

1203
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

1204
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 13: I like being able to explain all the different references

1205
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 13: and stories that we're to, you know, because when you

1206
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 13: do a show with somebody, you know a lot of

1207
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 13: stuff that you say is already understood or known and

1208
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 13: everybody gets it, but and and and you kind of

1209
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 13: just gloss over it because it's something that's already been done.

1210
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 13: But with Jonas, you know, every SoundBite, every this or

1211
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 13: that has a story behind it. So sometimes it's fun

1212
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 13: to kind of tell people those stories. And it gets

1213
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 13: the listeners, who are supposed to act like they know

1214
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 13: every reference and understand every uh every side comment. Uh,

1215
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 13: the listeners sometimes are able to bone up on their

1216
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 13: h on their great sports talk as well when.

1217
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: You have a co host.

1218
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 13: So I actually really enjoy having Jonas, and he might

1219
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 13: be one of my favorite co hosts to come in yeah,

1220
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 13: I wish you'd wear a longer sleeve shirt so I

1221
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 13: didn't have to look at his so I didn't have

1222
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 13: to look at his nineties.

1223
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: I was in a rock band Tattoo.

1224
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: My Pamela Anderson hire Thornbush.

1225
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: But other than that, it was a great experience, aw

1226
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: Les p.

1227
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a good time.

1228
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: That was That was a lot of fun and a

1229
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: lot of movie references, a lot of uh and then

1230
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: you broke down why he's not a fan of grunge

1231
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: music and the lyrics behind it, so that was why

1232
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: is that petros?

1233
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I didn't say I wasn't a fan.

1234
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 13: I just I thought it was really weird that there's

1235
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 13: like this whole generation of of white men that think

1236
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 13: you have to sing like this, you know, like it's

1237
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 13: like this whole like if you were white you were

1238
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 13: in a band, like you had to sing like like

1239
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 13: Eddie Vedder or you weren't singing. That was like a oh,

1240
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 13: you know, I don't I'm a little tot want but

1241
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 13: uh but yeah, it was. Uh, it was an interesting time.

1242
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 13: Also the lyrics, you know what you thought was your

1243
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 13: daddy what like you got songs about like you know,

1244
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 13: kids killing songs about kids killing themselves at school, songs

1245
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 13: about Vietnam, songs about you know, family estrangement, and now

1246
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 13: you get like twenty thousand frat boys in the Universal

1247
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 13: Amphitheater singing Jeremy.

1248
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: Spoken about a school shooting.

1249
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: Jeremy is.

1250
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 3: I love this song about a school shooting?

1251
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was our whole lives.

1252
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 13: And it was like, dude, this sucks, you know, like

1253
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 13: what happened to bel biv Devo, what happened to poison Jeromy?

1254
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it said that's us.

1255
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: It is a good point, Like what people are jumping

1256
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: up down almost my favorite song about that school shooting.

1257
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 13: Okay, rub my nose iness, Like that's how we like,

1258
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 13: that was our lives, Like why why did we Why

1259
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 13: was that the popular music when we were kids?

1260
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: No wonder everybody was doing saying stocking music, you know,

1261
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: like every step you take.

1262
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, but that's at least that's a pop That's like

1263
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 13: most most rock songs or most love songs. Most songs

1264
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 13: about things like that are obsessive, right, or or they

1265
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 13: they display some kind of unhealthy psychological behavior. But we

1266
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 13: be singing it like yeah, they're like yeah, but at

1267
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 13: least they sound like like, at least every step you

1268
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 13: take sounds like a song. It's like a pop song,

1269
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 13: as opposed to like, you know, at least he's not

1270
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 13: going like every step what you know?

1271
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: Like that, that's the part of.

1272
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 13: It that you know is a little bit annoying to me.

1273
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 13: I mean, just in retrospect, you look back and you're like, how.

1274
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: Did It's a great point.

1275
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 4: It's a great point. You know. I'm going to just

1276
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 4: send you a list of songs. I'm gonna text you

1277
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: now a list of songs.

1278
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 13: I'm like, yeah, well, like I know that what happened

1279
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 13: because we had like hair bands and like there's a

1280
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 13: bunch of dudes with hairspray and makeup.

1281
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: That was Jonas. That was Jonas, That was Brady. Brady

1282
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: loved hair.

1283
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: I did not like.

1284
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yah, I liked hair metal.

1285
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 13: When you're in seventh and eighth grade and def Leppard

1286
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 13: and bon Jomi, you're coming out, what do you expect?

1287
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 5: You had to have a nipple ring and a bar

1288
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: wire on your right that's right?

1289
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 3: Uh?

1290
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 5: Petros and.

1291
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: Get him on Exit the old pH the co host

1292
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: of the Petros and Money Show that you can hear

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Speaker 5: And so with that we welcome in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you like that, Jonas, Yeah, you like that.

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Speaker 3: During the break, that was a big reveal, big reveal.

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Speaker 2: Not surprised.

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Speaker 4: That was one of those you know, what are they

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Speaker 4: what are they doing now?

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Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah I saw that sitting

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Speaker 1: know that I did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that at the end of week. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just disgusting, disgusting.

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Speaker 2: But from that over this.

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Speaker 3: He is Albert Breer, Yes, senior NFL reporter, lead content

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Speaker 3: strategist at the MMQB.

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Speaker 5: You can get him on x.

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Speaker 3: At Albert Breer if you've got the balls, He's the one,

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Speaker 3: He's the only. He's the Thursday tradition on this know

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Speaker 3: a b good morning, Good morning guys.

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Speaker 16: I think that is that, Marv Albert I'm here and there.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I thought, I thought so.

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Speaker 16: I like I love I love I love the music though,

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Speaker 16: because I was you know, I was a teenager for

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Speaker 16: Jordans and Barkley and Malone and all those and that's

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Speaker 16: those are the guys.

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Speaker 8: I think of when I hear that music.

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Speaker 5: Isaiah, Yeah, the good old days.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you grew up a good old You grew

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Speaker 3: up a C's fan, though, right, Who is your favorite

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Speaker 3: Celtics player?

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Speaker 16: Well, no, I actually, when I was really young, because

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Speaker 16: my dad is from Detroit, I actually rooted for the

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Speaker 16: Pistons or not. I kind of identified with the bad

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Speaker 16: I like the bad boys.

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Speaker 8: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 16: I I thought when I when I was really.

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Speaker 8: Young, I like the Celtics now, but like.

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Speaker 16: When I was really young, because I you know, I

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Speaker 16: don't have.

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Speaker 8: Real roots in Boston.

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Speaker 16: I grew up here, but you know, my dad's from

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Speaker 16: my dad's from Detroit, my mom's from Austria, so I

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Speaker 16: I uh.

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Speaker 8: Like, you know, I was introduced to the.

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Speaker 16: Detroit teams when I was little, and the Distins were

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Speaker 16: really good and I was a little bit of a contrarian,

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Speaker 16: so you know, the Celtics and Pistons were both really good,

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Speaker 16: and everyone rooted for the Celtics, so I kind of

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Speaker 16: like to go the other way on that.

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Speaker 8: That was when I was really young.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, the Ohio.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yep, that's right. Everybody in my family went to

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Speaker 16: I'm a triple Legacy at Michigan and I went to

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Speaker 16: Ohio State, So I always I always seem to go

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Speaker 16: the other way.

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Speaker 5: Damn, what's wrong?

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Speaker 16: Dang well, my my grades might have been part of

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Speaker 16: the problem, but we don't need to get.

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Speaker 8: To that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to now how you feeling about Ohio State

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Speaker 3: and attorney they opened things up with TCU later on.

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Speaker 16: I feel okay, I feel okay about the first round,

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Speaker 16: not just good about the second round.

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Speaker 8: Is that probably the right way to put it.

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Speaker 16: I think I look like I actually think like they've

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Speaker 16: done a They've done a decent job over the second

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Speaker 16: half of the season. They were ready to you know, right,

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Speaker 16: Jake Deeble are out on a rail and I think

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Speaker 16: there were a lot of people, I would say, and Brady,

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Speaker 16: you lived there, so you know it. I say, there

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Speaker 16: are a lot of people in that community that were

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Speaker 16: really upset that they didn't hire Dusty May when they

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Speaker 16: got the chance, or John cal Perry.

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Speaker 8: Wanted to go there. But it seems like they've come.

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Speaker 2: Alive of lates.

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Speaker 8: So we'll see what happens now.

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Speaker 7: Wait, wait, wait, wait, John cal Perry want to go

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Speaker 7: to Ohio State of Arkansas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was your opinion or is that like fact?

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Speaker 8: No, it was out there it was.

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Speaker 16: It was actually out there.

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Speaker 7: Oh so you run a message board where someone was

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Speaker 7: like jj huddle, They were like, hey.

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Speaker 8: No, this was rended thread. It was it was actually

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Speaker 8: out there.

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Speaker 7: See that's how I know you're not a true Ohio

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Speaker 7: State fan because you don't know what jj huddle is.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: That for the real ones, they know that's the message board.

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Speaker 8: Is that like?

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Speaker 16: That is that like another level of like buck nuts

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Speaker 16: and like, so jj huddle it was.

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Speaker 7: It's the high school version of what is every message

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Speaker 7: board ever?

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Speaker 4: But jj huddle is like where it all started.

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Speaker 8: I need to check that out. I need to check

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Speaker 8: that out.

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Speaker 5: Albert keep it in Ohio.

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Speaker 3: What is the reasoning behind the Browns proposal to want

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Speaker 3: draft picks to be able to be traded five years

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Speaker 3: out as opposed to three?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, you guys know why the rule is the

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Speaker 16: way it is, right, Like the three year limit really

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Speaker 16: is to protect the friend and the NFL's interest is

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Speaker 16: always in. The NFL's interest is and always has been

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Speaker 16: in trying to make sure the league is as level

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Speaker 16: as possible. So the league's dream would be for every

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Speaker 16: team to be nine and eight or eight nine, so

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Speaker 16: every game matters all the way through and all of that,

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Speaker 16: and the Browns have been parts of these proposals over.

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Speaker 8: The last few years. They actually we have been the

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Speaker 8: ones about have been the ones.

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Speaker 16: Behind pushing the trade deadline back so you'd see more

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Speaker 16: player movement, and the idea of doing this would be

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Speaker 16: to create more player movement as well. Now, the reason

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Speaker 16: the trade deadline isn't further back is because what the

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Speaker 16: NFL wants to avoid is, you know, teams in mid

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Speaker 16: to late November stripping their rosters down and you know,

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Speaker 16: then you've got games in the back end of the

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Speaker 16: season because you guys know, they look at every game

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Speaker 16: as a piece of real.

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Speaker 8: Estate that they can sell to the networks.

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Speaker 16: And so you know, what they they want to avoid

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Speaker 16: is having like teams that are just in complete disrepair

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Speaker 16: playing games at the end of the year.

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Speaker 8: And in this case, you know, I think this is.

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Speaker 16: The mechanism has always been there to protect franchises against

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Speaker 16: them from.

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Speaker 8: From from themselves, right Like, so.

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Speaker 16: You know what they're trying to avoid is having you know,

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Speaker 16: a coach or a GM in a really desperate spot

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Speaker 16: start just selling off every asset he has to try

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Speaker 16: to save his own job. You know, and so I think,

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Speaker 16: you know, the idea here would be give the team

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Speaker 16: some more flexibility again, like the same idea of moving

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Speaker 16: the trade deadline, promote some more player movement, and then

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Speaker 16: put the responsibility for techting the franchises on the franchises themselves.

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Speaker 8: You know, we'll see how.

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Speaker 16: Much traction it gets. Generally, these things might take a

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Speaker 16: year or two to get through, but it's an interesting concept,

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Speaker 16: you know.

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Speaker 8: I just again, I think we've.

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Speaker 16: Seen in the NBA, right, like what happens when you know,

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Speaker 16: a coach or a GM goes hog wilder, a owner

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Speaker 16: decides to go all in and starts trading first round

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Speaker 16: picks from like seven or eight years.

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Speaker 5: Down the line.

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Speaker 16: You know, I don't know that that would be good

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Speaker 16: for the league long term. So it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 16: see how that discussion goes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how does that compare to other professional sports leagues?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 16: I don't know those limits exist anywhere else, you know,

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Speaker 16: And I just I think of the NBA because it's

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Speaker 16: the other league where the draft teams like.

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Speaker 8: You know, so important, the same way it is in

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Speaker 8: the NFL. And I know in the NBA.

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Speaker 16: There are no limits and so you see in the NBA,

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Speaker 16: you'll hear these trades where they're trading like twenty thirty

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Speaker 16: two first round picks, you.

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Speaker 8: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 16: Like and and again, the reason that the NFL doesn't

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Speaker 16: want that is because you know, they don't they they

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Speaker 16: they they don't want people they don't want, you know,

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Speaker 16: like the current regime of a certain franchise selling off

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Speaker 16: every piece it has to try to save itself.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 16: And you know, the the idea is to protect the

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Speaker 16: long term health of all the franchises. And you know,

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Speaker 16: I think that that's you know, obviously, I think that's

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Speaker 16: well intentioned by the league to have that rule in place.

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Speaker 16: But the NFL's goals are a little different.

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Speaker 8: Than the other leagues.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Again, the NFL's goals has always been have always.

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Speaker 16: Been to have as have have as much parody as

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Speaker 16: as humanly possible, and have the worst team be as

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Speaker 16: close to the best team from a talent and performance

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Speaker 16: perspective as as they can.

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Speaker 8: And this is one of those rules that protects that.

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Speaker 5: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I've been doing some thinking on the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 1: like just thinking about their edge, you know, their edges

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Speaker 1: and the depth there and what they're going to look like.

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Speaker 1: What went into the thought process of letting Rashaw and

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Speaker 1: Gary go from your team? Like I don't I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to understand what direction are you hitting? And obviously with

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Speaker 1: question marks surrounding MICA's health and and and.

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Speaker 5: How how quickly will he be back? But why would

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Speaker 5: you do that? Now?

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Speaker 8: It's a good question, you know. I think part of.

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Speaker 16: It was that, like and Rashaun and Gary has been

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Speaker 16: a good guy and a good player for them for

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Speaker 16: for a long time. I think part of it was, uh.

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Speaker 8: Was the performance wasn't.

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Speaker 16: Quite matching the contract the last year or two, you know.

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Speaker 16: And then I think the other piece.

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Speaker 8: Of it is, which is why they had to go

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Speaker 8: out and get Mike in the first place.

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Speaker 16: I think the other piece of it is they do

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Speaker 16: have a former first round pick who's younger and Lucas

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Speaker 16: van Nass that they wanted to give, you know, increased

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01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 16: opportunity to and you know, if he winds up playing

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Speaker 16: well and they pay him, now, you know, are we

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Speaker 16: looking at at at having a log gym of contracts?

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Speaker 8: You get ahead of that, and you know, I do think, like,

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 16: It's part of the reality of having you know, a

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01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 16: quarterback on a on a big contract too, you know,

1526
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 16: and where they are and you know, for those I'd

1527
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 16: say for those four years from from twenty twenty to

1528
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 16: twenty twenty three, they had a lot of flexibility because

1529
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 16: Jordan Love was on a much more affordable contract. When

1530
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 16: you transition to having av a, having a quarterback on

1531
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 16: a bigger contract, it does tighten.

1532
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 8: The screws in other areas. So some of the luxuries

1533
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 8: that you could.

1534
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 16: Have before, such as having you know, a couple of

1535
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 16: edg rushers on big deals, does become a little bit

1536
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,879
Speaker 16: harder to square.

1537
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 8: So that's sort of where they are.

1538
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 16: They've got some more guys coming down the pike, especially.

1539
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 8: On the offensive side of the ball, that are.

1540
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 16: Going to be upper contracts soon. You know, what do

1541
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 16: you do about Tucker Craft Like?

1542
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 8: He looks like you.

1543
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 16: Know, he's poised to become one of the best tight

1544
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 16: ends in the league if he can get healthy again.

1545
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 8: You probably have to a You've got a.

1546
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 16: Bunch of the younger seniors who are going to be

1547
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 16: up for contracts. You're not going to sign all of them,

1548
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 16: but you might want to sign learn too. You just

1549
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 16: let Romeo Dobs go, so just part of the financial

1550
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 16: right reality of the where they are, and I think

1551
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 16: it's an area where they looked at it and said,

1552
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 16: you know, we can give Lucas van nass now, who

1553
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 16: was a first round pick, an opportunity to be the

1554
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 16: guy opposite Micah, you know, and save a little money

1555
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 16: on the back end.

1556
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

1557
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: NFL reporter, lead content strategist.

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01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 5: At the m MQB. Get them on X at Albert Brier.

1559
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 3: We were talking about this earlier that there's a report

1560
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 3: from Adam Schefter who said Devon h Chan is going

1561
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: to be sticking around with the Dolphins. They don't have

1562
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: any plans on getting rid of him. And I'm just

1563
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: trying to figure out why if you're doing a tear down,

1564
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: why why do you leave the coffee table, Like what

1565
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: is if you're going to get rid of everything, why

1566
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: not just get rid of everything?

1567
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 16: I think, you know, I think they're trying to thread

1568
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 16: the needle, Jonas, is the easy way to put it.

1569
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 16: I mean, look like you know, and we've talked about this,

1570
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 16: like how part of what they've done and what ship

1571
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 16: is doing is like they are leaning into we.

1572
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 8: Need to draft and develop better.

1573
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 16: And the reality of it is, if you look over

1574
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 16: the last four years, they have fewer draft picks than.

1575
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 8: Any team in the league from the twenty two to.

1576
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 16: Twenty three draft classes combined.

1577
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 8: There's just two players left.

1578
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 5: That's it.

1579
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 8: And so I mean, I believe one of them is

1580
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 8: a chan you know, and.

1581
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 16: Those are guys going into year four and year five,

1582
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 16: and so you know, they they do have to build

1583
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 16: up assets, and that is why you trade away jal

1584
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 16: and Waddle. The flip side of it here is you

1585
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 16: can't if you're going to give Jeff Hathley a fighting

1586
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 16: chance to create a foundation, you can't just be like

1587
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 16: a like a like a like a skeleton of a

1588
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 16: football team.

1589
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 8: You know, like you you.

1590
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 16: Have to give the guys that are going to be

1591
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 16: in that locker room some level of hope because they.

1592
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 8: Don't care what your three year plan is.

1593
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 6: Like.

1594
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 16: They want to play well now, they want to compete

1595
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 16: as a team.

1596
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 8: Now, they want to set up there careers now.

1597
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 16: And so you know, I think you have to do

1598
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 16: certain things to give those guys a chance.

1599
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 8: And I think that is.

1600
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 16: What going out and getting Malik willis is and I

1601
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 16: think that's what if they can't get a great price

1602
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 16: for a chan, which is part of this that's what

1603
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,839
Speaker 16: that is too. You know, it's all right, like, well,

1604
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 16: you know, we got to hang on to some guys.

1605
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 8: And we got to give ourselves a fighting chance to

1606
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 8: at least.

1607
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 16: Be competitive this year, so Jeff Hathley.

1608
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 8: Can go out and lay a foundation so when we

1609
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 8: do have you know, when we when we do have.

1610
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 16: A good young base of talent, there's something to build

1611
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 16: off of. And remember, they're going to be welcoming all

1612
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 16: those rookies that they're drafting you at seven picks in

1613
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 16: the first three rounds.

1614
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 8: Now, they're gonna be welcoming all those rookies into that environment,

1615
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 8: and so you want to have that environment be a

1616
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 8: good one for them to grow in.

1617
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 7: Hey, al, we talked earlier today about the nfl R.

1618
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 7: What's the chance is that this thing doesn't get done

1619
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 7: and we have replacement refs? I mean, no one wants

1620
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 7: to see that, but I feel like we're venturing towards that.

1621
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I can't imagine they

1622
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 8: would let that happen again. After the bleep show that

1623
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 8: it was.

1624
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 16: In twenty twelve and Brady, you are still playing then, right, Like.

1625
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 8: I I like that was like.

1626
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 16: One of the most it was one of the most

1627
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 16: embarrassing things I've ever seen. And it was just and

1628
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 16: it was solely.

1629
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 8: Based on greed, you know. And so this does not

1630
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 8: seem like it should be that difficult.

1631
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 16: A thing to figure out.

1632
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 6: But the way the league.

1633
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 16: Has operated, you know, over the course of the last

1634
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 16: four or five years really.

1635
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 8: Since COVID, it's hard for me to rule anything out.

1636
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 6: You know.

1637
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 16: They they've really operated with a private athlete mindset. I mean,

1638
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 16: if you want to really dig into the way the

1639
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 16: league office has worked, the way these teams have worked,

1640
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 16: you can see all kinds of signs of it. The

1641
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 16: owners have operated as sharks, you know.

1642
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 8: And so.

1643
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 16: Do I think they're going to let it happen, Like

1644
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 16: deep down, I think that somebody is going to be

1645
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 16: the voice of reason and say we can't, you know,

1646
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 16: we can't let that scene in Seattle happen again.

1647
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 8: And you guys all remember that, you know, like that

1648
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 8: was a Monday night football, you know, a standalone game.

1649
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 16: I still remember my buddy Mike Silver walking off the

1650
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 16: field with the WTF there with with Aaron Rodgers.

1651
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 8: You would think that the day would avoid that at

1652
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 8: all costs.

1653
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 16: But the way that they've operated over the last few

1654
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 16: years does I think illustrate how you could get there,

1655
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 16: because if.

1656
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 8: They do play hardball with the rest. Here's the other thing,

1657
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 8: Like people don't realize this. A lot of those.

1658
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 16: Referees are very like are are very independently successful. So

1659
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 16: it's not like like taking this paycheck away is going

1660
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 16: to taking a paycheck away is going to break these guys.

1661
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 16: That's a nuance to it. I think a lot of

1662
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 16: people don't understand, like these guys are lawyers and doctors

1663
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 16: and businessmen, you know, Like these guys like like doing

1664
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 16: it and it's lucrative for them to do it. But

1665
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 16: you know, I think a lot of them, you know,

1666
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 16: have had the financial wherewithal to stand up ground.

1667
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,520
Speaker 8: Against the owners. So we'll see what happens.

1668
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: My last question for you, Ab is what what what

1669
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: ends up happening with Max Crosby after all of everything

1670
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: that took place. I mean, it's it's kind of embarrassing, right,

1671
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: Like wouldn't you be embarrassed by that? And does that

1672
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: damage the value of Max Crosby moving forward? Like what

1673
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: what's the latest with him?

1674
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 16: Well, embarrassing for who, for the Ravens, for the I.

1675
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: Mean I feel like it's a little bit embarrassing for

1676
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: everybody involved, honestly.

1677
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1678
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1679
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 8: So I'd say for Max, you know, I think the

1680
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 8: overwhelming likelihood is that he's going.

1681
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 16: To start the season with the Raiders.

1682
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 8: Well, I think it was never hit. I think there

1683
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 8: are a couple of reasons why.

1684
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,440
Speaker 16: I Number one, he still has tremendous loyalty to the organization.

1685
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 16: He has loyalty to Mark Davis.

1686
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 8: You know, his his issues, you know, he he he had.

1687
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 16: A trust issue based on what happened at the end

1688
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,520
Speaker 16: of the year. And I do think like John Spytech

1689
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 16: and you know, and and and Clint Kubiak have done

1690
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 16: a nice job of rebuilding that trust through this whole thing.

1691
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 8: And so I think, you know, some of the fractures.

1692
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 16: That were there starting to heal. So that's number one.

1693
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 8: Number two, and I think this is more of like.

1694
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 16: The real life application of it. The Raider's gonna have

1695
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 16: a hard time getting anything close to the the what

1696
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 16: the Ravens were going to give them for him. And

1697
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 16: the reason why is like, if you're another head coach

1698
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 16: or another GM.

1699
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: You may really like Max.

1700
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 8: Crosby as a player, but.

1701
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 16: Can you risk like bringing him in trading a first

1702
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 16: round picking something else for him? And like the possibilities

1703
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 16: out there, like like well, what if his knee goes

1704
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 16: next year or the year after, or he's a shell

1705
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 16: of himself in twenty twenty.

1706
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 8: Seven, Like like how am I going to explain that.

1707
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 16: To my owner when the Ravens already failed him on

1708
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 16: a physical.

1709
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,480
Speaker 8: So the Ravens' actions.

1710
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 16: Actually have I think a chilling effect on his value.

1711
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 8: On his trade value. So I think that's the other

1712
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 8: piece of it, which is like, you know.

1713
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 16: The Raiders aren't going to give him away, and I

1714
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 16: just I'm not sure anyone's going to come close to

1715
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 16: what the Ravens were.

1716
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: Going to give them for him.

1717
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 16: Now, so, you know, And then I think for the Ravens,

1718
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 16: obviously there's some image rehabit that has to go on here.

1719
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 16: I actually think the Raiders come out of this looking

1720
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 16: pretty good.

1721
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 8: Like I just you know, I think they'd.

1722
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 16: Probably you know, they'd love to have those two first

1723
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 16: round picks, But they come out of this they were

1724
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 16: loyal to the player, They honored all the contracts that

1725
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 16: they were going to do before that, you know, and

1726
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 16: I think now they actually come out of this, I

1727
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 16: think looking like the team that.

1728
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 8: Had its crap together through the whole thing. So, you know,

1729
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 8: I think all the way around, not an ideal situation.

1730
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 16: And if you're talking about like where this like if

1731
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 16: he's going to be a Raider for life, that's possible.

1732
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 8: But I also think there's a scenario where you know,

1733
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 8: he goes out and he kicks.

1734
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 16: Ass early in the year, and maybe the team is

1735
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 16: still struggling, and then all of a sudd and his

1736
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 16: his his value gets rekindled, and we get close to

1737
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 16: the trade deadline, somebody makes them.

1738
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 5: A godfather offer. I wouldn't rule.

1739
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 8: That out completely, but I think it's going to.

1740
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 16: Take Crosby getting on the field and doing that to

1741
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 16: to to really, oh no, did you hear that?

1742
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 5: Oh no, we lost him. He was so good until that, right, Remember.

1743
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 4: That was on us the way, I honestly thought that

1744
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 4: was me. I was like, oh did I lose you

1745
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: know Internet?

1746
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 5: I was having Remember.

1747
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: Last week we had the issue with him and it

1748
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: was on our end, and so I really feel like myself.

1749
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 7: Which we we blamed him unfortunately because it has been

1750
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 7: him for so so many years.

1751
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: But this was on us, well not today, we were

1752
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 3: we were up against it, uh today regardless.

1753
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 5: So well Loraina did it Ray Ray would would?

1754
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 4: Yeah the time, Lorena Bobbitt, that whole.

1755
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 5: Interview she chopped off, chop threw.

1756
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: It out the window the time, Lord Lorraina Bobbitt. All right,

1757
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: so it is two Fox Sports. Hey, yo, Ab, don't

1758
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: worry about it, Ab, sorry about that.

1759
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 5: There we go, There we go.

1760
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 8: I don't know if that was you guys again or

1761
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 8: that was not us?

1762
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 5: Say if it was us A kid.

1763
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well hey uh any who enjoy the tourney games.

1764
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna be watching with with the kids, getting

1765
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 3: them all fired up.

1766
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 8: The bracket I think it's I think it's twelve to

1767
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 8: fifteen is the tip for the buck Eyes this afternoon,

1768
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 8: so the kids will be getting home from school as

1769
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 8: it ends.

1770
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,480
Speaker 4: Let's go box, Yeah.

1771
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 8: Go box.

1772
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 4: There we go, Yeah, there is.

1773
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 16: The I I thought the Irish have a basketball player

1774
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 16: who signed with the Colts, right, So that's how the

1775
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 16: basketball team is doing there.

1776
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 7: Geez man, wow man, we're trying to take shots. I mean,

1777
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 7: by the way, you guys got good like for through

1778
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 7: this season, all right, I mean maybe you're a casual.

1779
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you watched the first half the year.

1780
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 8: I'm I'm a I'm a casual for sure.

1781
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought and I and I and I and

1782
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 5: I may or may.

1783
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 16: Not have been firing people from the couch even though

1784
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,959
Speaker 16: I wasn't watching the games in January.

1785
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 7: How about this, Albert, next time, get something better than

1786
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 7: boost mobile so we could actually talk to you the

1787
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 7: entire sunime.

1788
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 8: I would say the same to you guys.

1789
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: After hold on, hold on, hold on, don't like that,

1790
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: Hold hold.

1791
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week. Man, enjoy the games,

1792
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 3: all right, thanks, guys.

1793
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 8: Is great.

1794
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 3: Alba Brier with us year on Fox Sports Radio, senior

1795
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 3: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB.

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01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 3: Get him on ex at Albert Brier, I got a

1797
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 3: funny feeling that was on our end. It sounded different. Yeah,

1798
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: it sounded different than than any time before. Usually we

1799
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: founded like a phone dying. Yeah, you just out and

1800
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 3: usually we can, we can, we got to go.

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01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: So I just feel like that was an a you know,

1802
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: maybe a bit cut him some slack bird.

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,640
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