WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Dave Moore 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.000 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.640 the chin, and he's still the twenty he still the 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:12.520 twenty five thirty top forty yardline history, fifty forty, the 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.640 thirty yards. I like Michael Rot. Michael Rot, Michael Rod 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:20.200 set stop tap, there you go, and that sixty two 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:27.200 yard for your goal attempts. It is God, God, God, 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.440 God box the Eagles, who can forget again? I'm looking again? 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.040 They already Derek Bucks, dilready touchdown tamp a day, Derek Books, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.000 the most pariable player you're the national football like. Third 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.640 is the Daggers in where are you Gonna Win the 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:50.920 Super Bowl? We call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome bucking 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.960 your fans to the Salty Dog Podcast. I'm Scott Smith 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.560 and I am still jeff Ing, and I guess our 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.440 first one went okay because I let us do another one. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.960 We're here and exciting them so ready to go. Welcoming 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:03.800 in bucket your fans. Actually, you know they don't have 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.759 to be a bucket your fans. Anybody can listen. Maybe 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.080 somebody stumbles across and thinking it's a cooking showers yep, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.760 or maybe like a Panthers fan, hate listening or fishing, fishing, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:17.920 salty salty dog. Speaking of fishing and salty dogs, are 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.520 we're gonna have a fisherman and a salty dog a 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.520 bit of his own, great fisherman. Dave Moore is going 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.080 to join us today. Yep, the long time tied in 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.880 and long snapper for the Buccaneers, pro bowler at the 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.120 end of his career and played a few years in 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.360 Buffalo as well, and actually started his career in Miami. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.520 But we'll let him talk about all that when he 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.400 comes on. Yeah, good stuff, you don't want to miss. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.360 He's got stories. Yeah, I'm told I've heard some before. Okay, 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.200 I've heard him all but previously. I should point out 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.640 also that Dave Moore is on the radio broadcast, so 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.640 you'll be hearing them calling correct twelfth season as a 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.440 color analysts, and we have a lot of discussions. But 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.800 this week it's been kind of a crazy week because 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.720 of all the injuries. Yeah, it's like the first maybe 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.600 you'll even days of training camp. I think our trainers 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.360 were stealing money. They just didn't have much to do. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.440 And uh, and then I don't know if the field 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.680 was booby trapped or a bomb went off or something yesterday, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.440 because all of a sudden that training was full. I think, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.480 I don't think I'm exagering. Let I say, seven or 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.080 eight guys left practice. You mentioned that, and I like, wow, 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.000 But if you just go to the old line, well, yeah, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.399 that's the main problem. And as coach Cutter's pointed out, 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.640 I don't know what it is, but the last few years, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.000 when guys get hurt, it tends to concentrate on one position. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.560 Like remember two thousand and sixteen, Like the whole defensive 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.120 line was hurt, and uh, we went to Carolina. We 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.040 had basically the entire defensive line was injured, and guys 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.519 like Davante Lambert and changing War we're stepping in and 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.560 really and we won that game. It was it was 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.640 pretty good. Next man, Yeah, that was definitely the definition 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.400 of that. So this time it's the offensive line, and 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.400 specifically the right side of the offensive line. Um DeMar 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.160 Dutson is actually doing a little bit more every day, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.280 so that's going in the right direction. I saw him 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.480 running when they were doing gas. He was running. He 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.880 wasn't running with everybody, but he was running on this well, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.680 and he's starting to take eleven on eleven snaps now, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.160 which they were keeping him out of it before were 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.800 because people end up on the ground, and you know, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.200 he had the knee surgery and you don't want to 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.760 risk and tripping over somebody. And the other thing too, 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.760 is it is it his training camp. It is preseasons, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.200 so and if you're if you're nicked a little bit, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.200 they hold. But then Leonard Wester got hurt who was 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.320 taking his snaps dots and snaps, and then Cole Garter 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.040 stepped in to take the snaps and he got hurt. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.160 Caleb Binnoock of the right guard has been out, although 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.600 he came back to practice because our defensive line is 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.760 beefed up so well that that's possible. Yeah, I mean, um, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.680 the coach Cutters missed that several times. We see on 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.240 paper this defensive line looks a lot better, you know, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.120 but we still are you still I'm still just a 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.080 little nervous. I want to you know, it has to 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.680 translate on the field, and I'm nervous about it happening. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.080 But then I hear coach saying he stands back there, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:43.760 he's the guy that has to decide whether it plays 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.440 a sack and to blow the whistle or not, because 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.560 they're not gonna really hit the quarterback, but the quick 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.840 the d line gets close and they want to sack, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.360 and of course the offense is no no, I got 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.240 away from it. But he has to decide, and so 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.640 he says he said the other day standing back there 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.600 watching that that pass rush is no joke. And for 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.320 him to say something like that, you know, there's he's 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.800 not volunteering that, he's not going to tip his hand 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.720 on anything well, and he's not going to get too 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.560 effusive in praise at this time of the year either. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.600 He know, and he offenses things like could come on Grimes. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.280 We've had five practices so far. We don't really can't 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:14.920 really give you a judgment on that yet. But for 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.160 him to say that meant something you know, you bring up. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.839 Don't get too excited. It's very very early. But my 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.440 takeaway from this training camp are our corners. I am 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.560 truly excited about what I have been seeing. For for 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.080 what it's worth, Um, you have Brett Grimes. What more 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.240 can you say? He has a really practiced very much, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.320 but he's a veteran and sometimes I take that as 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.520 what are you going to teach him? Yeah, he doesn't 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.880 need any more practice. Um, but I think Vernon Hargraves 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.760 is stepping up. I think he's stepping up. But but 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.240 the sleepers M J. Stewart, Well, I don't think you 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.400 can call him sleeper anymore. Jeff makes him play every 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.920 day in practice. What what's so funny about definition of sleeper? 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.640 You're not expecting it to happen. You didn't expect it's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.240 a second und drop pick. I understand that, but I don't. Yeah, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.960 I always look at where you get drafted. That's just 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.360 a grade, okay, because if because if if if if 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.000 every time you drafted something like in the first round 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.160 or the second round, and they were all hits. I've 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.640 been around here before. We drafted a second round quarterback 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.320 of fe years back and Jonathan Banks, and he was 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.080 a great guy. But you can't really say that worked 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.800 out in the long run. It didn't really work on 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.200 long you proved my play, I know. But we also 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.279 drafted Brian Kelly in the second round and that worked 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.560 out well, that worked very well. So anyway, Yeah, I mean, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.400 I'm I'm just quibbling, But You're right. M J. Stewart 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.520 has been fantastic. And what amazed me was you were 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.279 the one that said name a day that he hasn't 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.839 made a spectno play. It happens every day. But where 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.920 is he gonna play? I mean, Vernon Hargraves is starting 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.840 the slot right now, and if anybody's gonna unseat one 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.840 of the veterans as the other outside guy across from 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.760 burn crimes is probably gonna be Carlton Davis because he's 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.200 playing outside and doing well. He's doing really well. That 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.640 was the next name I was gonna bring. M J. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.040 Stewart's gonna play this year, but it's not clear right 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.400 now the past to that playing time. And I don't 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.880 think it hurts us to to have solid backups and 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.240 keep people fresh, because if I were remember right, we 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.560 struggled in the fourth quarter last year in games where 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.479 you had the lead and it well and and the 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.400 depth was tested as it is every year a quarterback, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.479 and if you don't have good depth and you're exposed 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.880 pretty quickly, and you know there were games where guys 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.919 were wide open. Uh so yeah, the cornerback depth is 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.480 something I harp on all the time. So That's why 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.040 I'm not jumping on here. I like it. I like it, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.440 but because I can't wait to be proven correct. Let 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.840 me get back to the offensive line, because the Bucks 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.960 are gonna play game tomorrow UM in Miami, and they 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.039 have a very unusual situation to deal with in the 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:37.440 quarterbacks because you're trying to prepare, you're essentially trying to 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.600 get two starters ready. Ryan fitzpet is gonna start those 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.360 first three games, so he has to be prepared. Jameis 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.520 Winston is not going to be able to practice during 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.520 those first three weeks while he's on his suspension, so 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.159 if you're gonna get him ready, you kind of got 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.440 to do some of that now. And then you got 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.480 Ryan Griffin, who as nominally the third string probably wouldn't 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.880 get a lot of playing time, but he's once he's 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.800 one very much. He's one injury to to Fitzpatrick away 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.640 from starting, so you've got to get him a little more. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.320 And if you had two guys that kind of feel 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.680 like our starters, you generally want to play your starting 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.320 quarterback behind your starting offensive line. That's been the case. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.320 But we can't leave our starting offensive line out there 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.600 for double their reps, So somebody, how much are you 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.920 gonna play? James Coach keeps saying there's a plan, and 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.760 of course there is. He definitely has a plan, but 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.000 he hasn't shared what it is yet. So beyond Ryan 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.040 Fitzpatrick's starting tomorrow night, we're gonna walk into the game, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.160 you and me and every been in all analyists not 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.240 knowing what to expect from the course the quarterbacks, that's 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.480 one of the main things to watch, and the injuries 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.720 to the offensive line exacerbate that problem and just make 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.520 it's a complicating matter. I do like the fact that 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.720 h Dirk Cutter has been putting Jamis with the second 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.280 string so to speak, or your backups, or however you 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.720 want to call it. I like that. I like that 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.960 thought process because if you're a great quarterback, you elevate 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.200 the play around you, and so I kind of I 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.880 kind of like that fact that sometimes you're not going 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.480 to have your best guy in at all times, your 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.720 old line and receive, you're not going to have all 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.840 the all your stars, so to say. In there like 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.600 that with the depth this team has a wide, wide 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.400 receiver and tight end even when you're playing with the 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.160 second and third stringers. You're playing with some pretty good 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.680 players out there. I think it's the offensive line that's 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.560 little bar and more. I think probably the one position 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:21.640 I think we're solid at his tight end and wide receiver. Yes, yes, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.000 I don't. I don't think anybody can really get into 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.960 that now I want to do. This is kind of 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.400 a let me depart a little bit from what we 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.760 were just talking about, because I wanted to get to 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.120 this before we finish this first segment. Did you see 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.280 the thing about the new sliding diving rule. I did, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.960 but I don't fully understand. Well, it's easy to understand 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.400 from the standpoint of what it's attended for, and that's 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.640 quarterback protection. So previously, if the quarterback wanted to give 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.600 himself up and therefore not be eligibly hit, you know 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.000 he's scrambling, but before he has to slide feet first, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.360 and then the guys know not to hit him. But 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.000 if you were to dive head first, which we've seen 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.360 Jami's do plenty of times, you're still in play, You're 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.920 you're gaining those yards, and so they they'll hit you. Well, 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.280 they change that now. So if you are giving yourself 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.880 up and you dive head first, it's the same thing. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.440 The play is still dead. They're not supposed to hit you, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.640 and it's marked from the point you started the dive. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.800 So when you leave your feet, yeah, when you start 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.840 your head first dive, they're gonna market back where you 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.160 were is you started it. Is that just for the 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.120 quarterback or is that for anybody? I think it can't 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.760 be just for the quarterback, I think, And I asked 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.160 coach about today and he was explaining that it's not 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.640 that much different because you know, basically, like they're saying, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.439 if any're part of your body, like your knee or 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.240 something that's down, you're not getting those extra yards anyway. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.199 But the way I was reading the rule, it sounds 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.160 like when you start to dive, you can't take the 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.920 dive out of the game. You have to be able 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.280 to what work done. Diving at a pylon and St. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.080 Louis fur touched on him and players do that all 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.400 the time. So isn't there a gray area here where 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.240 the ref has his side if he was diving for 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.959 gain or diving to give himself up interpretation, and that's 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.800 going to get us in trouble. That's what I'm worried 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.480 everybody's worried about the helmet rule for good reason. In 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.520 any new rule where it involves something knew that the 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.640 referees have to interpret on the spot, and it really 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.360 wouldn't be open to review if it's their interpretation, it's 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.000 not gonna be open to review. When we had the 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.720 refs here, right, uh, they'd come in and have coffee 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.000 and get ready to go out. And I had a 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.320 couple of conversations with them, and they're doing their homework. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.160 They really are working hard, and it's it's an interesting 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.760 dynamic because if you talk to them as a group, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.079 it seems like the message is the same, but if 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.200 you talk to them on an individual basis, no, no, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:33.200 I'm just saying, interpretation will always be And so so 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.760 if you have this one crew and they they believe 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.400 this is the way it should go, but you have 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.880 another crew and they think this is the way to go. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.079 So now you're gonna be looking at games and instead 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.640 of looking at starting quarterbacks, we're gonna be looking at 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.080 who the officials are and you know what you can 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.840 do to know what you can do, And that's true 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.200 with the helmet rule too. It's gonna be it's gonna 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.880 be strange. But I don't like this diving rule. And 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.880 I don't understand why a quarterback would want to die 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.880 head first rather than slide feet first. If they're not 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.000 gaining any more yardage by diving, because it's gonna be 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.680 spotted where he starts to dive, Aren't you putting yourself 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.200 in more danger? Because sometimes even though you give yourself up, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.120 players still hit you. They might get a flag. So 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.040 if you're if you're sliding feet first, you get hit, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.160 it's gonna be it's gonna be worse if you're diving 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.240 head first. Right, Why would a quarterback choose to dive 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.280 head first to give himself phone? Not a smart player, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.880 because now you're gonna get helmet to helmet, whether it's intentional. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.679 And these guys have been trained all their life to know, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.600 Oh the guy slid his feet, you know, pull up, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.360 fly over. But if he dives head first, I'm hitting 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.720 the guy. And it's gonna be hard for them to 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.439 not do that in the moment, at least at least 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.000 for a while. It'll be fun. The first few preseason games. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.120 I did watch the Hall of Fame game, and I 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.040 didn't think penalties were that bad. I's you know, I was, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.840 and I was mainly watching that game just to see 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.480 how they were going. And there were three of those 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.000 helmet calls and one was. Two of them were pretty 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.400 one was a little. But I mean you can you 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.160 can live with one call and that's a little if 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.800 so now it is as the rules changed. Of course, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.920 it's all for player safety and what do you understand that? 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.280 And that's very good. Everybody agrees with that, just like 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.520 you know, you notice that we had Rhonda and Davon 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.920 here the last two weeks. I did what you did, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.720 not that you're very observer, Jeff. Nothing's getting by. One 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.920 of these days, we're gonna we're gonna put together a 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.800 real good podcast. Um. And we asked them about training 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.520 camp because it was so different in their days, and 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.720 both of them me like, but it's for the best. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.360 I mean, they're not they're not saying all these young 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.440 kids today they're so soft, they don't know what they 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.880 have to go through. Well, they're not saying it on 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.280 our body, but I've been around the block a few times. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.360 But they are acknowledging that it's this trend in the 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.800 right direct, Isn't isn't that the way it works, no 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.360 matter what generation, no matter what next one. If you 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.920 ask me about broadcasting, kids these days, they don't have 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.360 to deal with tape and razor blades to do edits. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.440 They automatically can do it from your desk. You're not 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.920 in a big student, you know. No, I'm still too 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.040 young to be worried about the next year. It wouldn't 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.319 that far But it wouldn't that far ago. You may, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.040 you may. These writers today are so soft. Yeah. Remember 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.080 remember when you used to have a cassette machine to 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.120 do you know, I had to do your quotes than 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.680 digital I have to. I used to have to chisel 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.800 out the game notes on a slate. Now, honestly, I 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.560 will say this my first year I was a PR 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.160 guy here. First, my first year in ninety two was 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.440 the first year that we started doing the roster on 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.360 a PC. Before that, Rick Odioso, the PR director at 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.240 the time, would type the roster on a typewriter, so 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.840 anytime you change the roster, you had to retype the 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.160 entire thing. I also, I also remember, and it's not 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.719 that long ago, it is and it isn't. But um, 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:45.320 would you get your game book whirling? Yeah? You spun it, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.520 you know, like when you're in third. It was fast, yes, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.400 but it didn't print very well. But it was heavy too, Yes, yeah, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.960 that was those were the good old days, right, what 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.199 do you think you Yeah, our next guest, and well, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.960 let's let's finish up here and do a real quick 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.200 segment because we always do our second segment and remember 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.720 that time, you know where we kind of reminisce. Okay, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.360 and and then we'll bring in Dave Moore. All right, okay, 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:12.280 so we'll be back in just a minute. The Salty Dogs. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.079 Welcome back everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.360 Smith and again I am me Jeff Ryan. If you 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.520 think if you don't know my voice by now, then 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.800 forget it. That's a good point, um, So Jeff, on 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.200 our second segment here, we always always, I say always. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.920 This is the second one we've ever done. We shall 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.040 so we shall always do a remember that time. And 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.200 it's sort of related to the team we're about to play. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:38.920 Last year. Last week we just did training camp. So 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.320 we're playing the Dolphins. So give me a dolphin memory. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.680 The best dolphin memory I have is, first of all, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.000 I don't I don't enjoy um. The stadium is a broadcast. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.160 The stadium is really beautiful, and for somehow they managed 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.600 to build a beautiful stadium and make the broadcast booth 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.200 the worst in the NFL. Yes, I sent it down 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.400 if they actually surpassed the Oakland College to see him, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.200 and that's not easy to do. It's just very cumbersome. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.840 You're in the corner, you're on the opposite side. It's 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.200 it's very compass. But that's now. But in nineties seven, 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.240 we were on the fifty yard line. So I'm going 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.840 to give them props. At one time they had it 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.720 right where. This must have been in the preseason because 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:20.200 I played Miami here. It was well then, it was 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.320 part of that maybe you know it was. It was 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.280 a game in it was in the mid nineties, all 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.000 right in the middle. Let me back it up. We 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.240 were winning, so I would say nineties in there and 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.840 it was pouring down rain, just had all this, okay, 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.080 all this rain, all this, I mean, just nasty, nasty nasid. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.240 The game where Jamie Duncan intercepted the past. Thank you, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.000 my years are running together, but Jamie, Jamie Duncan intercepts 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.000 the past and runs it back. That's part of the story. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.560 This is part of the stuff than you're like a 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.360 season broadcasting. That's what a partner does. Appreciate it. So 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.640 Jamie dunk you want to tell the story. That's all 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.360 I got. Okay, So Jamie duncan it makes the interception. Uh, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.000 and he's running down the field. Gene decker Off jumps 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.920 up and the booth has glass, and he jumps up 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:13.680 and he is as he's describing the play, he's on 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:19.400 the glass. And when we score you, he's going touchdown, talent, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.400 and the glass is going like this. And and at 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.640 that moment, I realized how involved Jane gets into a 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.000 game and how excited he gets in the game. That's 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.440 the best Miami story I have. And we did win that. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.080 We did win that game. Grammatica made two field goals 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.280 and the game you bring up was part of the five. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.400 Yes he was hearing. The thing about that game that 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.720 was interesting was the Bucks did not punt a single time. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:44.680 I know, and that's only happened a couple of times 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.280 in team history. Uh. One time. It happened way back 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.880 in the early nineties when Dantus Against was our punter 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.920 and I was a young pr guy. Uh. And going 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.600 through the locker room thinking I'm funny, and I said, 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.320 dann uh, pretty easy game for you yesterday. Huh. He 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.400 did not think that was funny. He didn't think it 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.320 was I thought it was harmless. I remember he gave 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.320 me a very sarcastic At least you did say you 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.000 don't have to get your uniform cleaned. Yeah, right, exactly. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.600 So yeah, I mean, we don't want to spend a 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.000 lot of time on us because our guests is going 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.040 to have a lot to reminisce about, especially because he 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.800 has Miami connections too. But I remember my first year here, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.480 we went down there in the preseason and it was 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.560 literally like right after Hurricane Charlie had pros like the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.719 deck day or two days later, and you're driving down 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.480 the road and most everything was dark, nothing was open. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.800 There were trees across the road, and it felt like 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.520 you were in a what you were in a disaster 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.399 zone to some extent. And I just remember because it 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.760 was like that might have been my first road trip 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.960 ever in the NFL, and we went down there and 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.439 it was that's stuck with me ever since. Not a 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.040 fun trip. I am not a that's that's not one 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.960 of my favorite favorite road trips. But uh well really yeah, 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.240 it's quick though it is. It's quick. It's easy. Remember 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.320 one time with Sam with Tony dung Jew we went 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.399 down there in the preseason on the same day we 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.639 didn't go the night before, Gret we flew in and 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.080 then dating stay at Hotel yep, and then that was weird. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.560 We'd also did death for Jacksonville one day. We did 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.359 it by bus by bus. That's right, all right, Jeff. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.159 Like I said, our next guests will help us with 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.000 all this reminiscing and also maybe give us a little 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.600 bit of how he feels about the team right now. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.919 And that's Dave Moore, the long time tight end and 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.800 long snapper. And we'll be back just a minute with 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:26.880