WEBVTT - Beating An Ox 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.800 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:12.160 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Gatti 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:18.279 and no He Armstrong and Hetty. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.159 Major questions about Trump's trade war with China and what 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.560 is really going on. The President claiming that his administration 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.560 is meeting with Chinese officials to try to get tariff's lowered, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.840 but that's not what the Chinese are saying. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.879 The Chinese are liars. Back to China in a moment, Yeah, yeah, exactly, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.000 always have been, always will be. I's just reading Ian 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.800 Bremer's analysis of the whole tariff China thing. Is this 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.880 is gonna cause China a great deal of pain short term. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.320 Ian says they're gonna benefit from a long benefit from 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.640 it long term. But I don't know if there's gonna 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:00.520 be a lot long term. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.440 So yeah, well, I tell you what. Let's go ahead 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.760 and play the groovy theme first. It's uh, look inside 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:17.440 the China Cabinet, Jack, cleverly. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.440 China, China. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.280 It's a series of stories about our greatest geopolitical adversary. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.800 Don't trust China. Oh I see that, don't I see? 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.920 You're talking about the nation of China as opposed to 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.800 like the uh. It is commonly referred to as China. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.959 Yes, you've caught on Yes, and it's quite a number 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:41.360 of stories. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.760 Jack. Feel free to comment as you like. We can 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.800 digress on anyone or just zip through either way. I 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.880 thought this was interesting, and we'll begin briefly at least 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.520 with tariffs. You know who's gonna get hit the hardest 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.080 with the China tariff thing if it continues, which is 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.880 al of a big if. Who knows is young parent. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:08.160 Everything strollers, cribs, toys, baby products is made in China. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.080 An astounding amount of the stuff I bought my Target 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.919 stock after Sam was born. It was just like, how 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.120 many times a week are we going to Target to 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.919 buy things with a baby? But practically everything I'm sure 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.120 was made in China. Yeah. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.399 So there are a few countries beside China, with their 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:33.680 manufacturing prowess which is undeniable, that can efficiently meet the 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:39.000 strictest baby product safety standards on Earth, the American safety standards. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.000 China's really good at building strollers that conformed all that stuff, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.840 and you know, you can get some crappy toy that 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.320 will break the first time your kid plays with it 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.800 from virtually anywhere you know. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.600 And I don't want to name any countries. I'm not 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.000 here to disparage anybody, but Malaysia. You want, We're looking 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.040 at you, Malaysia, oh boy. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.800 But if you want something sturdy and past the safety standards, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.720 you're probably going to look to China. So we shall 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.760 see how that develops. Now onto more serious fair Clearly 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:14.040 nobody knows about kin Men Island's island. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.560 I think it's an archipelago. It's several islands. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.720 Kin Men a Taiwanese archipelago about two miles off the 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.240 Chinese coast. I'm reminded of recently reading The Cane Mutiny, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.360 which is about World War Two, in which a number 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.320 of the battles and campaigns they referenced are familiar to 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.600 any history buff And there's an old saying that war 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.880 is how Americans learn geography. Well, we all might learn 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.560 about kin Men, this series of islands between China and Taiwan. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.640 As the Chinese Navy and Coast Guard is getting increasingly 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.920 belligerent about practically pulling onto their beaches. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.560 I know you weren't here a couple fridays ago when 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.680 your nation needed you. You were watching a golf contest somewhere. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:02.200 But that's when I had Mike Liones on and his 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.400 his take was, China goes to take Taiwan, They're just 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.560 gonna take it. We're not a positioned to stop them. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.200 Yeah, I'm reminded of a big brother bullying a little 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.760 brother and bringing his fist right up to the kid's 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.760 face and doing it again and again and again, and 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.400 all it's going to take is for China to go 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.240 ahead and slug the kid, if you know what I mean. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.120 They're absolutely poised and ready. Well, part of it is 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.159 our lack of appetite for an actual war, which I 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.680 completely understand and share. But he was talking about, well, 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.240 if we did this and then China would probably attack 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.919 the West coast, Like whoa, I mean, that's just so 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.039 mind blowing as an American, the idea of California, you know, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.200 bombs falling in La or San Francisco, and she's just 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.680 what the hell? But you know, look at the news 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:48.120 in Ukraine. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:52.640 It happens in various places around the world, right, So wait, 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.279 there's more. So China claims its Coast Guard is carrying 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.839 out routine law enforcement, but the real purpose is clearly 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.880 to challenge Taiwan's your stiction over its own islands. The 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.200 patrols create opportunities for escalation if China wants to send 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.520 a message blah blah blah, it's a dangerous game, especially 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:14.159 with American special forces stationed right now on kin Men. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.400 So China could demand that the US and Taipei demilitarize 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.600 the islands, betting that mister Trump would withdraw the troops 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.440 and urge Taiwan to give away the island rather than 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.520 less risk a larger confrontation. So we have some of 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.400 our best and brightest there right now as China is 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.920 menacing the very beaches of ten Men. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.599 I don't want to get sidetracked on this completely, but 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:44.279 can you imagine the cultural change that would happen in America? 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:49.080 I think for generations if bombs were falling in La 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.880 San Francisco, San Diego, Seattle, wherever from Choh. Yeah, I 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.560 mean that would be so it'd be a wake up 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.719 to me and I expect this sort of thing in 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.919 my lifetime. For most people who just can't even imagine 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.320 that ever happening, it'd be holy crap. We're we're vulnerable too, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.839 just like every other human on earth. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.120 Well, yeah, really since the War of eighteen twelve, I 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.760 mean it's I mean, the Civil War, it's hardly been 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.479 an issue we think about it all other than a 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.600 couple of fairly minor submarine incursions in w W two. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.760 But yeah, the idea of the fighting being on our 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.200 homeland or the bombings or whatever, Yeah, it's crazy. Moving along, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.800 China has moved to formally end all Christian missionary activities. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.520 The Chinese Communist Party is imposing severe restrictions on Christians 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.760 in the country because they are godless commis and utterly 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:41.880 evil to their core Chinese in short. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.119 Sir, Yes, yes, that's true. That's true. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.640 So in lighter fair, because virtually everything's lighter fair. There's 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.480 Coffee has become incredibly popular in China in the last 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:54.719 few years. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.120 There's a giant coffee craze. Did they not drink it before? 0:06:58.200 --> 0:06:59.960 Did the Chinese just discover coffee? 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.520 They're all about tea, that's right, all the tea in China. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:09.880 Perhaps you've heard the expression, so they mentioned these coffee wars. Now, 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.680 between all the coffee shops that have sprung up, what 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.200 they're trying to do is come up with the latest 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:20.480 hot flavor, and they open the article with this Beijinger 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.800 drinking Starbucks mochas to power through the day. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.400 Today she downs Americanos doused in pineapple juice and lattes 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.400 blended with French butter. What a pineapple coffee or a 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.880 butter latte? But wait, jacket made with French butter? I 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:38.640 would try that. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:47.160 Roasted duck plums cheese, the bizarre bruise feeling China's coffee 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.760 war crowbeeks you just get You get an espresso shop 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:56.160 and you stir it with the crow beaks. Wow, roasted 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:05.080 duck flavored coffee Niac, Let's see you got phizzy Americano 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:12.360 made with Apple's lime, butter, latte, grapes, butter. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.640 I didn't know. I guess I should have assumed that 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:22.120 there were Starbucks in China, but duck flavored? Dude, put 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.360 back the duck coffee. I would like to know. Does 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.520 the Starbucks in China have unlocked bathrooms? Do they have 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.000 a civilized enough society where you can have a bathroom 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.439 like every business in America was until a couple of 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:35.800 years ago. What are you? 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.800 Tucker Carlson now praising totalitarian regimes because their bathrooms are cleaner. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:46.719 Please. It's an interesting question though. Moving along. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:52.280 There, it is finally, thank you, Michael, better late than ever. Huh. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:57.239 Chinese students on US campuses are ensnared in a political standoff. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.600 Some say their visas have been revoked. In recent weeks. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.200 Beijing is warning other nationals to reconsider study plans in America. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.400 This is a topic I would like to hammer over 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.920 and over again. How and we're gonna get into it 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.360 more later and if not today, next week. How major 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.080 universities are absolute. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.040 It's a harsh word, folks. Forgive me absolute sluts for 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:28.120 foreign money, specifically China and cutter the Chinese communists and 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.959 the Katari Islamists. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.679 They are Islamic supremacists. They just wear Western suits and 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.200 go at it a different way. They have so thoroughly 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.439 addicted some of our major universities to their money. 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:46.360 They dare not teach against them. Their lap dogs. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.400 And one in four one in every four international student 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.280 comes in the US comes from China, one in four. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.679 And the US has been running a large service surplus 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.960 with China for years, partly because of the billions of 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.400 dollars that Chinese households spend on schooling in the US. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.320 It is an enormous like hairin pipeline cash, they pay 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:14.160 full freight. And yeah, so anyway, both the young Chinese 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.800 communist boys and girls and their overlords are panicking a 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.040 little bit, and their university overlords. Because it's been such 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.680 a mutually beneficial scam, China gets to import a lot 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:30.960 of would be spies, whether willing or unwilling. The universities 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.480 get to piles and piles of money, and. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.240 We get to you know, cash into our system. I 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.040 don't know why you had to drop the S bomb, 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.160 but to make your point spies. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.200 Slut Oh oh it was I thought it was a 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:47.160 powerful metaphor. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.280 No, a couple more the universities be doing the walk 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.400 of shame here in a couple of years and happened. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.520 To a well, yeah they will. But instead of wearing 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:57.400 last night's. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.160 Clothes and questioning their lives decision, life's decision again, they're 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.679 infiltrated with Chinese spies and they're addicted to the cash. 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.840 There's no way to be It's more like being a 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.120 crack hoe than a shame. Yeah, yes, shame lady. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.640 It's more like being a crack hoe than you know, 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.760 a coh heed who got a bit loose last night. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.040 Walking down the street carrying your shoes, make up a 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.559 mess looking for more students, and I will keep this brief. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.000 Chinese scientists in America come under new wave of suspicion, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.720 FBI scrutiny and visa revocations are worrying STEM researchers as 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.440 China looks to recruit them to come home. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.560 Yeah. Well, a lot of the researchers are either spies 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.120 or they're going to be spies the minute Beijing calls 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.320 and says, hey, we need you to send us a 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.040 copy of that paper you're working on. That's the problem. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:52.080 And finally this there are strong indications that you remember 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.199 the doge thing when they're laying off a bunch of people, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.880 and that was the biggest problem in the world for 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.280 about a cup of duck flavored coffee. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:11:59.320 Set the duck back. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:05.280 Chinese intelligence maybe trying to recruit fired US officials. An 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.640 advisory says that foreign agencies are posing his consulting firms, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.160 think tanks, and other organizations to connect with former government 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.560 employees who may or may not be disgruntled and looking 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.760 for some sort of work. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.360 So the Chinese equivalent of the CIA is saying, hey, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:21.719 you know. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.440 What, we really we've admired your work for a long 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.240 long time, or starting a think tank, we'd love to. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.480 Have little of your expertise. And I've read about this 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.160 study this for years. How they get you. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.880 They have you doing completely innocent stuff, and then they 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.040 have you doing stuff that has just the tinge of 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.800 I'm I'm sure I'm supposed to well, and then they 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.880 ask you to do something a little more improper, and 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.120 then you're a full on espionage agent and you have 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.160 such a trail of oh my god, did I do that? 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.320 Behind you? You're on the hook. That's a look inside 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:59.679 the China cabinet. I didn't realize you're just coming around 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.560 to call feed there in China. That'll be a big 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.200 deal for you know, a lot of your big coffee 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.719 companies around the world. You know, Colombia has got to 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:14.160 be excited about that. You're comb peruse. Yes, yeah, maybe 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.000 you were into the NFL draft. I'm into the pope draft, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.800 the cardinal draft, uh for who's going to be the 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:24.199 next pope? Among other things. On the way, stay here, Hey. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.760 The telephones in this city will be changed to dial service. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.320 And all telephone numbers will be changed. Before calling any number, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.560 first secure the number from your new directory, Then remove 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.040 the receiver and listen for the dial tone. It sounds 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:47.920 like this with the receiver off the hook, dial the 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.800 desired number. Be sure to allow the dial to freely 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.120 return to its normal possession. And this is the ringing segmental. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.280 If the line is busy, you'll hear this busy signal. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.640 That's from nineteen thirty six. What I was just trying 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.400 to figure out in my head what age would you have? 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.360 What's the cutoff for having had that experience? Michael, you 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.520 just turned fifty. Have you used a rotary phone? 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:13.040 Yeah? 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.800 I did, Like you're a little kid. Yeah, so I'm thinking, 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.560 like forty five and under, you've probably never used a 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:21.320 rotary phone. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.440 I can still remember our first push button phone. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.240 Is that what you'd call it? Right? And I was 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.840 kind of thinking that's about the time Chinese crap came 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:35.080 into our lives, or foreign crap anyway. I mean, man, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.200 those old timey phones were a piece of happy duty, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.440 indestructible equipment. As I've said many times, those old AT 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.280 and T phones, you could beat an ox to death 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.640 with it, and then call your grandmother Barbara. They were 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.640 solid man. And then like you get into the nineties 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.680 and you had cordless phones, just the cheapest, lightest, thinnest, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.480 crappiest plastic on earth. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.920 Oh boy, Mike, Green was the phone in your kitchen 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.520 when you were a teenager hoping a girl might call 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.960 you or call you back? I can picture it because 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.400 I stared at it so much. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.440 I never had any hope of that. But yeah, by 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:26.360 the way, green, any kind of yellow, mustard yellow was ours. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.240 But uh yeah, if you're gonna have a phone conversation, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.120 it was going to be in the kitchen because that's 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.480 where the phone was on the cord. Well, that was 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.360 your problem. No girl's gonna call a mustard yellow phone. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.640 Oh if only that was my only problem? How much 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.160 time I got, Michael, Did I use up all my 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.080 time already? No, you're still fanciful, None of no stock. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.400 It's easy to be. Nostalgia's an interesting thing, trying to 0:15:54.480 --> 0:16:00.360 separate things that may have actually been better from it 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.000 just feels better because it's what was happening when you 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.720 were younger, and separating those two things is difficult. But sure, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:13.480 there were many advantages to the there's a phone, you know, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.520 in the center of our lives. That's where everybody's going 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.720 to have their communication. I mean, your wife isn't who's 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.840 she been texting for the last half hour. I mean, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.600 there's none of that going on. Everything was just more 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:31.200 easily controlled there, Yeah, I suppose so. Yeah. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.520 On the other hand, the advent of the answering machine 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:35.720 reduced stress a. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.640 Lot changed everything. But just from some of the stuff 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.200 we were doing yesterday about marriages and contempt and all 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.880 these different sorts of things. Pre how did people have 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.840 even have dalliances back in the day where you couldn't 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.040 call on the phone, you couldn't send a message or again, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.280 send a letter meet me. It's a little more carcasome. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.320 But it had to be better, right, I think it 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:00.920 had to be better. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.320 But harniness and bad decisions still found a way to 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:05.920 win jack even back then. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:06.719 Uh. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.800 Trump some interesting things to say about Russia and Ukraine. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.680 That is coming to a head possible. We've got a 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.639 lot of that coming up, Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.600 The Trump administration has put forward a peace proposal that 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.119 would prohibit natal membership for Ukraine and force Ukraine to 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.720 give up land that Russia has see since it's invasion, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.680 in addition to giving up CRIMEA. Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.159 has rejected the current proposal, saying we will negotiate, we 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:34.080 will not surrender. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.600 Yeah, we got a lot more on that. There's there's 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.880 a tremendous amount happening around Russia and Ukraine. It's it's 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.720 gonna go one way or the other, like now, like 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.880 this week, or this weekend or maybe today. Trump has 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:54.159 an interview in Time magazine whatever that is now that 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:55.960 we can talk a little bit about. But here's some 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.000 from Trump and asked a variety of questions about this yesterday. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.439 It's just run through these in order. Michael. Right after that, 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.359 he used the words Vladimir stop. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.760 That seemed like a slightly different message of personal message. 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.240 What is your level of frustration with President Putin at 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:13.640 this point? 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.800 I wasn't happy with it, and we're in the midst 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.879 of token peace and missiles were fired that I was 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.720 not happy with it. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.200 Will you consider additional sanctions towards Russia? 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:25.080 Or what will you. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.760 Do if President Putin does not respond? 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:28.640 Were a week? 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:29.520 I want to see what we get. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.520 Happy deal? Yeah, and then then the New York So 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.000 Trump tweets out yesterday Vladimir stop and all capitals with 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.600 exclamation points. This is not helping. The New York Post 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:46.639 characterized that as Trump blasts putin, ah, that's uhou. I 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.919 wouldn't say that's exactly what happened now, I mean it 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.600 was all caps. I'll give you that. That was one 0:18:53.600 --> 0:19:00.840 opinion piece yesterday. There Cover Today insinuates that Trump's Vladimir 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:05.000 stop was basically the same as Biden's don't with no 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.520 teeth behind it, which was, and the Wall Street Journal similar. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.440 Here's a little more Trump when you. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.360 Say, crimea that was handed over during a president named 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.800 Barack Hussein Obama that had nothing to do with me. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:25.040 Crimea that was eleven years ago with Obama and they 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.399 made a decision. There wasn't a bullet fire, there was 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.200 no fighting, there was no anything. They just handed it over. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.360 Now they say, well, can you get it back? I 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.120 think that's going to be a very difficult thing to do. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.000 That was given by Barack Obama when he was president, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:41.080 not by Donald Trump. 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.280 Not why sure what he had to throw in the 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.080 Hussein with Obama noticed that, Yeah, at this point, but 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:57.520 Bob Woodward, his book that I read about the Biden presidency, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.320 said Joe Biden, when Joe Biden was try trying to 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.640 talk Putin out of invading, like the day before he invaded, 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.720 and he became it became obvious that Putin was going 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.000 no matter what Biden said. Biden got off the phone, 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.080 hung up the phone and said, ef ing Barak. It's 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.800 his fault. He didn't do anything when Putin took crime in. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.840 It caused all of this. So Biden's belief was Obama 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.720 not pushing Obiden got a hold of or Obama got 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.760 Hood a hold of whatever the name of the president 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.680 was at the time, back then in Ukraine and said, 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.640 don't do anything. We're not backing you. Don't do anything. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.160 We'll take care of this basically, and then nothing ever happened, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.879 right very Obama. Yeah, Well, Trump wasn't wrong in what 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.399 he said there. Yeah, we're gonna get to that in 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.280 a little bit with David Ignatius Washington Post piece, which 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.840 I think you're going to agree with. Let's roll through 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.240 the rest of the Trump and then we'll be done. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.880 What concessions has Russia offered up thus far? 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.520 To get to the point where you're closer to peace. 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:05.399 Stopping them or stopping taking the whole country. Pretty big concession. 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.080 I don't know what I think of that. Russia's concession 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.639 is not taking the whole country. 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:20.560 Yeah, what is the inducement for that, whether carrot or stick. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.680 That's the part that mystifies me a little bit. 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:26.439 If I'm Vladimir Putin, I'm thinking all I'm getting is 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.240 Vladimir don't and I'm gobblin up territory. 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.399 Not very fast, and it's bloody, but I don't mind 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.600 young men going off to their death for the Russian motherland. 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.640 I'm on the front foot here. We're making progress. I'm 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.920 gonna keep going. Thank you. Ah man, you gotta find 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.480 a different way to couch it. It just doesn't let's 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.119 play the last trump one there. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.159 I have no allegiance to anybody. I have allegiance to 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.600 saving lives, and I want to save a lot of lives, 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.400 a lot of young people's, mostly young people. It's the war, 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.120 it's so and if we can do that also, as 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.600 you know, I get started because the money that's been 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:09.280 spent on this war is insane. It's a killing field. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:14.720 Five thousand soldiers a week on average. Can we want 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:15.200 to stop that. 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:20.520 I heard some of the numbers yesterday. Russia's approaching a 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:26.720 million men take it off the battlefield dead or injured 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.680 since they started nine hundred and seventy thousand. A million men, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.080 I mean, we have hundreds of thousands more fled the country. 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.960 For what it's worth, we have giant monuments in Washington, 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:43.240 d c. For tiny fractions of that in various wars 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.920 we've been involved in because we think it's so horrific 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.640 with a much bigger population, right, I mean, it's just well, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.840 it's a different culture for sure. God, I'd say the 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.840 history of Russia being willing to lose lots and lots 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:01.040 of young men. It's just astounding. Russia has lost one 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:05.560 hundred thousand men from the battlefield this year. It is April. 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.720 It's just it's stunning. Anyway, So some of the North Koreans, 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.080 by the way, which is its own story, did you 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:19.920 watch that video came out yesterday? No, Eight Ukrainian commandos 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.320 killed twenty five North Koreans in their trench. They had 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.720 GoPros on their heads and you could watch it and 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:31.000 it's just like those poor freaking North Korean dudes and 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.600 they don't even know where they are, certainly don't know 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.000 why they're fighting, and why would they. That's one interesting 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:44.240 thing about this war is the peace process as opposed 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.160 to the Middle East or I'm reading about past Middle 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:51.040 East peace process, where you've got, you know, you've got 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.359