Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and j. P.
Speaker 1: Shadrick provide the latest Jaguars news and what's happening around
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jaguars Happy Hour it begins right now. Welcome
Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logerman, Glad
Speaker 1: you're along with us. We are a week after the
Speaker 1: season and the Jags our number one in the draft order.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest story. Of course, head coach Doug Maroney
Speaker 1: is out as the head coach, so GM and a
Speaker 1: head coach opening now for the Jacksonville Jaguars. And we
Speaker 1: must say at the start of this program, let's just
Speaker 1: throw it out there. This was the Doug Moron Show
Speaker 1: for the last three years plus for four years really,
Speaker 1: and it's no longer the Doug Moron Show. It is
Speaker 1: now Jaguars Happy Hour. But our best to Doug Marone
Speaker 1: and Helen and the kids and the family and uh Logs.
Speaker 1: I know we we touched on an earlier show here
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. But he's gonna end up okay at the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's he's pretty well respected, certainly as
Speaker 1: a position coach of anything he can, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: a gig. Yeah, And look coaches when I when I
Speaker 1: entered the league, and then they sign up to be
Speaker 1: assistant coaches and coordinators and the certainly head coaches. They
Speaker 1: understand that NFL sometimes can stand not for long and
Speaker 1: that the jobs don't last and job security is not
Speaker 1: exactly at the top of the list. And they get it.
Speaker 1: But you know that could be very difficult for families
Speaker 1: to accept that. And so I got to say this,
Speaker 1: Doug is a is a top notch, first class guy.
Speaker 1: Love working with him. He has been extremely gracious with
Speaker 1: us through the years and has been very uh forthright
Speaker 1: and uh and given us great information, which in turn
Speaker 1: has allowed the listeners to be able to enjoy a
Speaker 1: lot of information and also to learn a lot. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate Doug for that. And Doug been good to
Speaker 1: me and on o JP, he's been good to you,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna miss him. And uh, without a doubt,
Speaker 1: good dude, No no matter if he you know, if
Speaker 1: he gets a gig, takes a year or whatever he
Speaker 1: wants to do, you will see them around town. So
Speaker 1: if you do shake his hand, he's he's approachable and
Speaker 1: a good guy, and um, he will be. And he's
Speaker 1: not very social though he'll be the first one Dad
Speaker 1: he said. Look, I'm not a social guy, but he's not.
Speaker 1: He won't like punch you in the face if you know,
Speaker 1: as we come up to him to shake his hand.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good guy. And uh and look here,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to win more than Doug Marone and and
Speaker 1: sacrifice more to to get wins for this football team
Speaker 1: than Doug Moron. It just didn't work. And uh and
Speaker 1: and just like past dead coaches, you know, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of them that love Jacksonville and then are
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the fabric of our community.
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, Mike Mallark, uh, even Gus Bradley. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be able to come back at some point, Uh,
Speaker 1: Smitty Mike Smith is not far down the road. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure or that Doug would like to be able
Speaker 1: to stay a part of this fabric as well. Look,
Speaker 1: we got a beautiful city and uh and a lot
Speaker 1: of the love about Jacksonville, and some of these ex
Speaker 1: head coaches are are going to be in our community,
Speaker 1: our community, and it's awesome that they stay a part
Speaker 1: of our community. I think it speaks volumes for how
Speaker 1: wonderful of a city that we have great place to
Speaker 1: be and once folks come here and realize that, maybe
Speaker 1: they don't realize that if they've never been here or
Speaker 1: haven't been here a lot or in and out, but
Speaker 1: once you're here and live here for a while, you
Speaker 1: know the secret that is Jacksonville. And it's a great
Speaker 1: place to be for sure. Now to the football side,
Speaker 1: and the GM gig has been open for some time now.
Speaker 1: The interview process is on down the road a little bit.
Speaker 1: It feels like they're the head coach. Names have popped
Speaker 1: up this week though, Jeff and there are some interesting
Speaker 1: names that are associated with the Jaguars opening. I think
Speaker 1: the most interesting is that of Urban Meyer, the former
Speaker 1: Ohio State Florida head coach. That's where he won three
Speaker 1: national titles combined with those two schools. And if you
Speaker 1: were watching on Jaguars dot com, you see the other
Speaker 1: names that have been listed the Enemy, Garrett Rahee, Morris,
Speaker 1: Robert Salo, Arthur Smith all tied at least in some
Speaker 1: way to the Jaguars head coach opening. But the one
Speaker 1: that pops off the page there that everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: is Urban Meyer. Logs sure, I mean and understandably so,
Speaker 1: because he's a big name. He uh everywhere he's been, Utah, Florida,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, he's flat out one. And that's what this
Speaker 1: team wants, and that's what the fans want, is winning.
Speaker 1: And there's also a little flip side of that, and
Speaker 1: that when he left those programs that wasn't exactly on
Speaker 1: good terms. So a lot of fans of the Florida
Speaker 1: Gators aren't big fans of Urban Meyer. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of Ohio State fans, if there already in
Speaker 1: this area, I'm sure there's a few because they have
Speaker 1: a pretty broad reach, may not like or be big
Speaker 1: fans of of Urban Meyer. But you know, look, uh
Speaker 1: he went and uh and it doesn't me that he's
Speaker 1: gonna win at the pro level because at the college level,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have better talent than anybody else, and
Speaker 1: it's can be a little bit unfair because you cannot
Speaker 1: recruit people well. In the National Football League, you have
Speaker 1: a salary cap that essentially governs your talent where you
Speaker 1: can only get so much as far as paying them.
Speaker 1: But there there is no cap as far as acquiring
Speaker 1: talent through the draft, which makes the general manager so
Speaker 1: very important. Now, the other name on that list that's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me is Arthur Smith. He's a hot Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been coming candidate offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: JP and and and you know, with a young quarterback
Speaker 1: coming in, you know, a bright offensive mind, many people
Speaker 1: are gonna look at as a favorable situation to get
Speaker 1: for a young quarterback. And not to interrupt you there,
Speaker 1: sorry about that, but Arthur Smith is I think the
Speaker 1: only one of head coaching candidates that is interviewing with
Speaker 1: every job opening in the NFL this year. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's making the rounds on the circuit. Well, it's because
Speaker 1: he's an offensive guy. I mean, look, anybody that has
Speaker 1: an opportunity to take an offensive coordinator position for a
Speaker 1: football team that's gonna have a running back that's gonna
Speaker 1: rush for back to back two thousand plush yards seasons,
Speaker 1: take the job because it's gonna make you a hot
Speaker 1: candidate if you can run the football. Obviously, he's at
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry there in Tennessee, and he's done a good
Speaker 1: job though, and uh and the Chargers have a great
Speaker 1: situation with their young quarterback, and I'm sure that he's
Speaker 1: going to be high on their list. He's probably going
Speaker 1: to be high on the Jaguars list because they're effected
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback in the draft, and so you
Speaker 1: want to you know that I said a little bit
Speaker 1: ago we were talking to Tony Boselli, and our conversation
Speaker 1: was about look first and foremost for the head coaching position,
Speaker 1: you want to have somebody that's a leader. But if
Speaker 1: you had a choice as far as what side of
Speaker 1: the ball that he's cut his teeth on or or
Speaker 1: is considered his area of expertise, you would take the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball just so you can continue
Speaker 1: to have continuity. But it's not the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And I would probably use John Harball as an example
Speaker 1: of that because John Harball essentially was a special teams coordinator,
Speaker 1: which I think special teams coordinators should get more consideration
Speaker 1: for head coaching position because they manage a wide range
Speaker 1: of people all from offensive and defensive sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: and coaches that they would make great candidates. But John
Speaker 1: Harball has done a great job. Whether he's had a
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback in Lamar Jackson or if he's had the
Speaker 1: statue in the pocket with Joe uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: Help me out, JP, Joe his quarterback in Baltimore. Thank
Speaker 1: you bla at a brain fart. But I mean he's
Speaker 1: been able to win with different styles of offense, and
Speaker 1: he's had different offensive coordinators to do that, and so
Speaker 1: I think that that goes to show you that it's
Speaker 1: not the most important or the only thing that's important
Speaker 1: when hiring a head coach is that he is from
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. But it certainly wouldn't
Speaker 1: hurt Joe Judge is another one with the Giants now
Speaker 1: who was a special child coordinator j P I. I
Speaker 1: gotta say this about Joe Judge. I remember we had
Speaker 1: the opportunity a couple of years ago to go up
Speaker 1: to Foxborough and the Jaguars were practicing against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and so we got to spend a couple of days
Speaker 1: up there and to watch and to also experience the
Speaker 1: preseason game that was played up there. So we got
Speaker 1: to see firsthand how Bill Belichick runs things with his practice,
Speaker 1: which was impressive, the most impressive thing to me, and
Speaker 1: I said it last year when he was hired with
Speaker 1: the new York Giants. The most impressive thing for me
Speaker 1: watching the Patriots practice was how they ran their special team.
Speaker 1: Not one time did they have to call for somebody
Speaker 1: that wasn't on the field when they were supposed to.
Speaker 1: Because you're when you're in a special teams coordinator, you're
Speaker 1: managing a all eighty guys or or more if they
Speaker 1: had the expanded rosters, and to be able to get
Speaker 1: them on and off the field without guy he's missing,
Speaker 1: without guys not knowing what they're you know, missing assignments
Speaker 1: or whatever. And that was all because of Joe Judge.
Speaker 1: That's not phill Belichick. Though. When Joe got the job
Speaker 1: with the Giants, I became a fan of his when
Speaker 1: we were there for the for the for the practices,
Speaker 1: and I think he did a very good job this year.
Speaker 1: And then when he came out to make the strong
Speaker 1: statement that he did about what the Philadelphia Eagles did
Speaker 1: and about how that he could never do that with
Speaker 1: the New York Giants JP, I became an even bigger
Speaker 1: fan of his. And if you can find a guy
Speaker 1: like that that's a strong leader, or a John Harball
Speaker 1: that's a strong leader, by all me get know plenty
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Speaker 1: Shadrick Jeff Logerman, glad you're along with us. We're done
Speaker 1: with the regular season. The Jaguars did not qualify for
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. At one and fifteen, they lost
Speaker 1: fifteen straight games. So that means long is that they
Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick. We've just discussed the
Speaker 1: GM and had coaching change and all those interviews coming,
Speaker 1: but with number one overall, this is a as you'll
Speaker 1: see on Jaguars dot com, a full reboot of the organization.
Speaker 1: And it gets no bigger with the number one pick
Speaker 1: than the quarterback position. We even heard shot Con on
Speaker 1: Monday discuss that a handful of times during his comments
Speaker 1: the lack of a franchise quarterback over the last eight years,
Speaker 1: especially during his term as owner here. And you can
Speaker 1: even go well past that obviously. So this is the
Speaker 1: year you have the pick. There are a couple of
Speaker 1: big names that are out there, and it's the stars
Speaker 1: are lining up, Logs. Let's say at well, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many people view Trevor Lawrence as a generational talent
Speaker 1: and and and he may be and I hope he is.
Speaker 1: I think it would be awesome for the fan base
Speaker 1: to have a franchise quarterback to where they can root
Speaker 1: forward watch grow through the next decade decade and a half,
Speaker 1: I mean, as we're seeing quarterbacks now play into their forties,
Speaker 1: So I mean, could it be in fact two decades.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it would be awesome to see.
Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence has an incredible skill set and and
Speaker 1: got to say that I've had the opportunity to watch
Speaker 1: him a little bit this week and watch the film
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch all of the snaps in which
Speaker 1: he has either run or thrown a pass this year
Speaker 1: for the Clemson Tigers and started watching a little bit
Speaker 1: of it this week and and love a lot of
Speaker 1: things that I see. I mean, he's got great athleticism,
Speaker 1: is decision making is very good. He has accuracy, arm strength,
Speaker 1: and throw the deep out fifteen yards out and it's
Speaker 1: on the money and it's on a rope. And those
Speaker 1: are the things that you like to have. And I
Speaker 1: think also what I think is going to help a coach,
Speaker 1: especially in the developmental phase, is that his mobility will
Speaker 1: help him I think be successful when because look, when
Speaker 1: a quarterback hits the ground running when he's a rookie,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be successful if you're just going to
Speaker 1: try to stay in the pocket. But young quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: have mobility can get out of the pocket and kind
Speaker 1: of manufacture success out of the pocket until they learn
Speaker 1: to to have success from in the pocket. And I
Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence gives that that ability and coaches. I
Speaker 1: think anybody that wants to take a job with a
Speaker 1: young quarterback would like to have that scenario of a
Speaker 1: young quarterback that has mobility that can do things out
Speaker 1: of the pocket so that they can learn on the run,
Speaker 1: so to speak, until they can learn to function like
Speaker 1: a Peyton manning in the pocket and be completely in
Speaker 1: the pocket and be just a great passer. But he's
Speaker 1: been fun to watch. He's been a joy and uh
Speaker 1: and I look forward to watching more of him and
Speaker 1: kind of giving a little update each and every week.
Speaker 1: But so far what I've seen of him has and
Speaker 1: has been really good, and it's been been fun to watch. Now,
Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch, and I think the whole
Speaker 1: read option stuff, you're gonna see a lot of that
Speaker 1: with him when he comes to the Jaguars. If he
Speaker 1: comes to the Jaguar, you know, it's all these videos
Speaker 1: on Twitter and online on YouTube and all this of
Speaker 1: his highlights and and big time throws and deep balls
Speaker 1: at Clemson, there was there was one I watched I
Speaker 1: must have met a few weeks ago, and he's rolling left.
Speaker 1: He's right handed, obviously, he's rolling left out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: nearing the sideline and then just unleashes one on the
Speaker 1: run thirty four yards down the field on a dime,
Speaker 1: end of the end zone, touchdown him. It's like, that's
Speaker 1: stuff that you just really can't teach your the way
Speaker 1: that that ball came out of his hands. It's just
Speaker 1: one example, but he does things with the ball that
Speaker 1: a lot of guys just can't do. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if can you can you see that JP? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got that up right there. Yeah. Look, let's try
Speaker 1: to Lawrence. Okay, got got a little film up of
Speaker 1: him right there and and going against Vanderbilt. Oh that
Speaker 1: now that's probably a good game for him. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, look let's see about this play. Okay, A
Speaker 1: little little fake, a little read option handoff, and he
Speaker 1: carries out the fake. I mean, he's he's a talent quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty clear cut. I mean, any
Speaker 1: quarterback that has been. As good as he has been,
Speaker 1: and consistent as he has been, and available as he
Speaker 1: has been, there is absolutely nothing not to like about him.
Speaker 1: You know. But I want to say this, A lot
Speaker 1: of people, I think in the fan base and and
Speaker 1: I think it's a little a little much. They think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a savior, and last time I checked,
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't be. It's it's very difficult to have
Speaker 1: one guy be the savior. Look at Joe Burrow. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow had a very good year, but it was a
Speaker 1: tough year and he took his lumps and unfortunately got injured.
Speaker 1: And then for the Chargers, Justin Herbert had what was
Speaker 1: a really good season lead them for I mean, it's
Speaker 1: really good for a rookie seven and nine. Was able
Speaker 1: to put together some wins down the stretch and was
Speaker 1: a really good, really good player. Broke a lot of
Speaker 1: rookie records passing and such. I mean those are you know,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray another one that had success out of the
Speaker 1: gates rookie. I mean, these are exciting young quarterbacks, but
Speaker 1: they didn't completely change the franchise's direction in one year.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of decisions that have to be made
Speaker 1: around picking a franchise quarterback. That have to be done
Speaker 1: well to allow the quarterback to have success and to
Speaker 1: allow the team to have success. And hopefully the Jaguars
Speaker 1: will make some great decisions, make some really good hires,
Speaker 1: and get a lot of good people that can help
Speaker 1: build this organization to where it needs to be. Some
Speaker 1: of those decisions will include pending free agents, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to the list of those for the Jaguars when
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Here's your host, g P.
Speaker 1: Shad Rick. Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday evening.
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman. I guess it's not even
Speaker 1: the evening yet. What is the borderline for evenings? Seven lugs?
Speaker 1: What do you think evening typically starts at five o'clock? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I was right, Okay, yeah, yeah, you're good. I
Speaker 1: mean we're five twenty, we're only minutes pasted it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're correct, you're politically correct. Okay, just making sure. I
Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, bad emails or tweets coming
Speaker 1: my way. But I got that wrong. So we were
Speaker 1: discussing building this organization. You know, obviously the quarterback is
Speaker 1: one thing, but there are some other things you have
Speaker 1: to do to get things right around the quarterback. And
Speaker 1: you brought it up earlier today we were getting ready
Speaker 1: for the show about pending free agents for the Jaguars
Speaker 1: that are currently on the roster and logs. There are
Speaker 1: uh twenty seven pending free agents on this team, according
Speaker 1: to spot track, So let's go through them. What what
Speaker 1: do you what do you want to start here? Well,
Speaker 1: I think that is a big number, and twenty seven
Speaker 1: I think when you look at that as a whole,
Speaker 1: people would kind of panic a little bit and say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, how do they gonna build
Speaker 1: a team next year? You know? So remember though that
Speaker 1: these twenty seven are guys that were signed for essentially
Speaker 1: roster filling spots. We call them borderline players are bubble players.
Speaker 1: But out of those twenty seven, I would say there's
Speaker 1: about six or seven that were starters on defense this year,
Speaker 1: and you could kind of massage it either way however
Speaker 1: you wanted to do it. You could even go to
Speaker 1: eight if you had maybeen as a starter at the
Speaker 1: one corner spot towards the end of the season. And
Speaker 1: on offense, you got about three or four and some
Speaker 1: important ones on offense because they're at the position group
Speaker 1: that is I think pretty good, and that's the wide
Speaker 1: receiver group. So are you gonna be able to keep
Speaker 1: you know, some names Keeling Cole. Are you gonna be
Speaker 1: able to keep d J. Chark? Are you gonna want
Speaker 1: to keep Chris Conley? You know, those are all questions
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to look at and and the
Speaker 1: general manager is gonna have to talk about with ownership
Speaker 1: and head coach and review the film and and probably
Speaker 1: get a little history or background on these guys and
Speaker 1: find out who's a good fit for the type of
Speaker 1: culture that they're trying to establish. But defensively, you know,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars struggled on defense this year, make no mistake
Speaker 1: about it. So I wouldn't panic either about saying, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: they're six or seven or eight starters on defense that
Speaker 1: are gonna be free agents. A lot of those guys
Speaker 1: are again, bubble type starter And the reality is is
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars had a lot of bubble type starters
Speaker 1: this year. Bubble type players as starters. I have to
Speaker 1: correctly say, so uh, And look, the Jaguars are gonna
Speaker 1: be h blush with cap space. And also there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of teams in the league that are
Speaker 1: trying to adjust to get under the cap and won't
Speaker 1: have the the leg room, so to speak, that the
Speaker 1: Jaguars will have in free agency. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it will be any issue for the Jaguars, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna obviously depend on the opinion of the new leadership
Speaker 1: that gets higher. I'd say the biggest name of those
Speaker 1: is Cam Robinson left tackle lugs. I mean, he's coming up.
Speaker 1: He's obviously a very important position. When you have a
Speaker 1: new franchise quarterback back there that you like to keep
Speaker 1: upright and healthy. Um, that'll be a huge decision to
Speaker 1: see if they, you know, want to try to pay him,
Speaker 1: or franchise isn't for a year to figure it out
Speaker 1: or just move on. I got my list up here
Speaker 1: real quick, Jao. I pulled my list up and and
Speaker 1: go back away from the playoff record rushing combine yards
Speaker 1: we were talking about a little bit earlier. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson is right up there the other one, and
Speaker 1: I think that's of notice. Tyler Shatley. Look at the
Speaker 1: number of games that Brandon Lender has missed over the
Speaker 1: last number of years and how many that Tyler Shatley
Speaker 1: has had to take over as a starter, whether it
Speaker 1: be at center for Lender or even at guard at times,
Speaker 1: and he's done a very good job. So in a
Speaker 1: perfect world, you'd love to bring him back and uh
Speaker 1: and have him as part of your your rotation or
Speaker 1: part of your game day actors. But I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some interest from outside on Tyler Shatley because
Speaker 1: he did do a good job while he was in there,
Speaker 1: starting that guard, end that center. Well. I mean, at
Speaker 1: some point, you know, if if he's around here, you'd
Speaker 1: like to plug him in to start, right, I mean
Speaker 1: in one of those positions. Is he better started as
Speaker 1: a center, as a guard or or what? Yeah, But
Speaker 1: to see, here's the here's the problem. JP, who are
Speaker 1: you gonna take out? Are you gonna take Norwell out?
Speaker 1: Who had arguably his best year as a pro and
Speaker 1: who who kind of garnered the nickname to where we
Speaker 1: were actually talking about his nickname this year, Big Nasty.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna take a J Cann out. A J
Speaker 1: Can was as consistent as any offensive lineman that there is,
Speaker 1: and and Lenda is still better than than Tyler Shatley.
Speaker 1: The one difference between Lender and Shatley is that Shatley
Speaker 1: has been very dependable on availability and Lender has been
Speaker 1: injured and so you know, I don't know how that's
Speaker 1: gonna work. Out, but I think that I think some
Speaker 1: team probably uh might have had their I fought by
Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley this year, but it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how that works out. So it probably anyway, just go
Speaker 1: out and test the mary if you're if you're a player,
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, DJ char Keelan Cole, why would you not
Speaker 1: want to test the market. The the the best premium
Speaker 1: that you get for your services and when you get
Speaker 1: multiple interested party so that people are willing to quote
Speaker 1: unquote bid for your services. And and I've been in
Speaker 1: free agency, have been in free agency twice in my career.
Speaker 1: Once I was a restrictive free agent, but I was
Speaker 1: a free agent when I came to Jacksonville. And then
Speaker 1: when my first contract that I signed with the Jaguars expired,
Speaker 1: I had another opportunity in free agency and chose to
Speaker 1: come back with the Jaguars. But look, you always, uh,
Speaker 1: the team will sit there and tell you you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, we really love you and this is our
Speaker 1: best offer and we can't do anymore, you know, And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you go to free agency,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the team that said,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't go any more than that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden finds a way to come up a
Speaker 1: little bit funny, you know. So free agency is not
Speaker 1: a bad thing for getting, you know, taking care of
Speaker 1: the business side of things, for for a player in
Speaker 1: your not to get too personal, but in your last
Speaker 1: free agency run where there are other teams bidding on you,
Speaker 1: is for lack of a better term, And what were
Speaker 1: those teams if you'd like to disclose, Denver Broncos. Dever
Speaker 1: Broncos had an interest of pretty clear interest that um
Speaker 1: right before my last year. But uh, and had a
Speaker 1: familiar face out there. One of my former coaches with
Speaker 1: the Jets was there, and so he was like, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: look we want you to come to Denver. And I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I can't go to work for the enemy.
Speaker 1: I mean we we just got done playing them. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, I can't do it, you know. But
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it was good to have the interest,
Speaker 1: do you know what. It makes you feel good because
Speaker 1: you get wanted. And it also kind of bumps the
Speaker 1: number up, I think for everybody. And I don't remember
Speaker 1: exactly if the numbers got bumped up from that or not,
Speaker 1: but uh, but that doesn't hurt. I can tell you that.
Speaker 1: And so if you're any of those, any of these
Speaker 1: twenty seven guys are gonna have an opportunity to the
Speaker 1: free agency. The money is gonna be a little tight
Speaker 1: because of the tightening of the belt around the National
Speaker 1: Football League with the drop in revenue this year because
Speaker 1: of COVID. So if their expectation is is that they're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, break the bank, and it ain't happening, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a lot of shorter term deals
Speaker 1: with some players. I think uh and uh. And in
Speaker 1: order for these players to get back maybe to when
Speaker 1: the revenue does bounce back, they can re enter the
Speaker 1: market once again. Let's come back in a moment and
Speaker 1: get into some of the bright spots in I know
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Speaker 1: Here I am Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman, Glad you're along with us today, a week
Speaker 1: after the regular season playoff games coming up this weekend
Speaker 1: Super wild Card Weekend, three games each day Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1: That should be fun looking forward to that. Beautiful doesn't
Speaker 1: get much beautiful beautiful. I mean, shoot, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the last week of deer season around these parts, JP,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's it's gonna be gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: You know. The good thing is is that they have
Speaker 1: the the NFL app on on my Horizon phone. So
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna take the phone to the deer stand
Speaker 1: with my ear plugs and uh in my extra battery charger,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch some football from the deer staff.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's it's um, I'm not a big
Speaker 1: deer hunter. Shocking, I know, but is it difficult to
Speaker 1: watch football and hunt deer at the same time? Are
Speaker 1: you like looking in two places? Like, what's the deal?
Speaker 1: How does that work? Uh? It's so yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's not very good for you know. The big one
Speaker 1: might walk by, That's what I'm saying. I can't believe
Speaker 1: they called that penalty on that Are you kid? Me
Speaker 1: review that play? And then you look up and you
Speaker 1: just see his rear end walk through the woods. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what happened? Right? That doesn't see It's that's probably not
Speaker 1: a good That's all right, j P. It's a look,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of downtime when you're sitting there and
Speaker 1: waiting for you know, you know, nice opportunity to harvest
Speaker 1: a deer, and so sometimes you got some things to do,
Speaker 1: you know, so why not watch NFL football? Man? You know,
Speaker 1: here's the crazy thing about the NFL this weekend. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't it on like all these different channels like Nickelodeon
Speaker 1: and uh like Network, all these crazy channels right there
Speaker 1: all over the place, which is you know, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get two different audiences obviously in different games, and
Speaker 1: so hey, pretty cool. So that's I think it's a
Speaker 1: And then Monday night, of course, the National Championship game
Speaker 1: is on the schedule, so yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch
Speaker 1: that one too. Hey, we're gonna need some of that
Speaker 1: venison bean dip by the way, speaking of deer hunting,
Speaker 1: that we need you to harvest a deer or the
Speaker 1: venison one of the two. That's a request to kind
Speaker 1: of funny about how how many um pro hunters that
Speaker 1: I have around my broadcast brothers. Okay, and so the
Speaker 1: people that are out there listening, they might have been
Speaker 1: against hunting, but then they had a taste of Terra's
Speaker 1: veniceon chili or of Terra's seven layer venison bean dip,
Speaker 1: and they have become instantly pro hunter. I like it.
Speaker 1: We'll see. Let's just for the record, I've never had
Speaker 1: anything against hunting. I just don't hunt, but I like
Speaker 1: to eat, so I've never had I've never had uh.
Speaker 1: I've never been against a lot of things JP. But
Speaker 1: I'm an American. I believe and that people should have
Speaker 1: the right to choose some of the things that they
Speaker 1: would like to do. It's a great country. Now it's
Speaker 1: a bad country. When people try to dictate what others
Speaker 1: should or should not do. That that's when I become
Speaker 1: a non fan of those people. The Outdoors Show Saturday
Speaker 1: mornings at seven on Tin Tin XL in Jacksonville. More
Speaker 1: hunting stories coming up. Let's set touch on some of
Speaker 1: the bright spots. Yes, there are some bright spots for
Speaker 1: the version of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It gets no brighter
Speaker 1: this year logs than James Robinson and what he did
Speaker 1: in an undrafted rookie year without an off season program
Speaker 1: on the field. He came into training camp and blew
Speaker 1: the doors off the place. Basically when and they cut
Speaker 1: l Fournette and all of a sudden he lives up
Speaker 1: to the expectation and beyond well beyond h I think
Speaker 1: first and foremost, when the decision was made to cut
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, I refer back to shot CON's comments this
Speaker 1: week when he talked about he had control of the
Speaker 1: roster and and he was all about facilitating the exit
Speaker 1: for players that didn't want to be here, and about
Speaker 1: how he wanted to fix a toxic locker room, and
Speaker 1: Leonard Bournette was one of those guys that was shipped out.
Speaker 1: So but also um which I think that takes courage
Speaker 1: to do that, because you're taking a leap of faith
Speaker 1: by cutting a guy that was a high pick in
Speaker 1: a proven commodity to commit to a young man who
Speaker 1: was an undrafted guy that Okay, the local scout in
Speaker 1: that area is telling you, man, this guy is pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know. The only thing he probably doesn't have is
Speaker 1: a great speed. But he's got great balance, he's got strength,
Speaker 1: he's got great vision. And you're sitting there as a coach,
Speaker 1: I'm sure or is you know the guy that's sitting there.
Speaker 1: Do we cut Leonard Fournette even though he's maybe a
Speaker 1: bad guy or not great for our locker room and
Speaker 1: he wants out of here. Well, heck, I mean it
Speaker 1: takes a leap of faith to be able to commit
Speaker 1: to a guy like James Robinson. So I credit the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and and the organization on that one because
Speaker 1: they called something there that none of us saw because
Speaker 1: we obviously didn't have the ability to watch closely with
Speaker 1: the COVID situation and everything else, and we saw that
Speaker 1: James Robinson looked good at times, but when you don't
Speaker 1: have any preseason games, how do you know? You know,
Speaker 1: that's where the faith comes in. So credit the coaching
Speaker 1: staff on that one. Yeah. I remember Doug bron saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're taking the numbers and the names off
Speaker 1: the jerseys, as cliche as it gets, and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what they did. I had a conversation with Doug about
Speaker 1: that about James Robinson. It was about that time, and
Speaker 1: and uh, and they had made the decision to part
Speaker 1: ways with Leonard Bournette, and I remember, you know, he
Speaker 1: came out and he said that, you know, we want
Speaker 1: to He essentially said something to the effect of, we
Speaker 1: we want the best players to play, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people took that as Doug just totally blowing smoke up.
Speaker 1: Everybody's rare in right, I mean right, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean everybody's like, there's no way James Robinson and is
Speaker 1: what's best for this team. He's not better than Leonard
Speaker 1: four Nette, Doug's lion. You know this is a prog.
Speaker 1: They're tanking. You know what, It was the right decision.
Speaker 1: He's the better running back. And so all those people
Speaker 1: that we were downing on Doug Maron for saying those comments,
Speaker 1: you might want to take what you said back because
Speaker 1: he was spot on and he was dead honest and
Speaker 1: you didn't believe. We'll come back in a moment and
Speaker 1: touch on some of the other offensive playmakers for this team.
Speaker 1: There are a few that could stick around and make
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Speaker 1: Here's your host, G. P. Shadrick. We're back Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman. The week after the
Speaker 1: regular season and a change at head coach, Doug Moron
Speaker 1: out interviews are underway. The general manager gig is open
Speaker 1: as well, and there's a lot going on around the
Speaker 1: Jaguars organization these days. We're continuing our conversation a logs
Speaker 1: about some of the offensive playmakers. We're gonna leave the
Speaker 1: defense out of this tonight just because, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: they had some issues this year, let's say. But on
Speaker 1: the offensive side, there are some guys out there, obviously
Speaker 1: that you have high hopes for. D J. Chark one
Speaker 1: of those that you know, there's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, all pay him the day after
Speaker 1: the season, But the statistics this year we're not quite
Speaker 1: some of the body language stuff, you know, Let's let's
Speaker 1: see him with a new quarterback, I think in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Then you got Levisca Chennault who really came on strong,
Speaker 1: and last two weeks of the season, of all things,
Speaker 1: he was banged up a lot. Those are two names
Speaker 1: that really pop out that can be around here for
Speaker 1: a while. And if you add one to that somehow
Speaker 1: or a couple to that within new quarterback and the
Speaker 1: offensive line for the most part staying intact in the
Speaker 1: run game, Hey, all of a sudden you have what
Speaker 1: could be a pretty nice offense. Sure, and I will
Speaker 1: say this, you need to find a way to get
Speaker 1: a dynamic playmaker at tight end. Um. There might be
Speaker 1: not a better best friend for a young quarterback than
Speaker 1: a really good tight end, and that's the short throws.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that can grow with the
Speaker 1: young quarterback. And you had one that you drafted a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but he hasn't seen the fleet
Speaker 1: field yet. And so in my mind, you still go
Speaker 1: out and you stay aggressive and you try to find
Speaker 1: find a guy. And that position is extremely important, and
Speaker 1: it's extremely important because of the matchups and as we've
Speaker 1: seen what the great tight ends one in San Francisco
Speaker 1: and obviously in Kansas City with Kelsey, his numbers have
Speaker 1: been incredible. Kittle's numbers two years ago were incredible. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are great players, but they create really tough matchups
Speaker 1: for defensive coordinators. And the reason why is that defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators don't know how to treat one of those tight
Speaker 1: ends Kittle Kelsey tight Do they treat him as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver or do you treat him as a blocker
Speaker 1: because both of them do both jobs very well, and
Speaker 1: so you kind of get in a little bit of
Speaker 1: a use of fancy word jape you that they didn't
Speaker 1: even teach you at Alabama a conundrum. So you're not
Speaker 1: quite sure what to do. Do you play nicol or
Speaker 1: do you play based defend and uh And that creates
Speaker 1: a little competitive advantage for offensive coordinet. So I love
Speaker 1: to see that. I love to see another young running
Speaker 1: back come in that's got great speed. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: home run speed because I think that's the only component
Speaker 1: of James Robinson's game that he doesn't have, his his
Speaker 1: elite breakaway home run speed and the continued development of
Speaker 1: the wide receivers La viscous Chault trying to find a
Speaker 1: way to stay healthier or DJ chart to to continue
Speaker 1: to develop and continue to work, and also for him
Speaker 1: to get healthy and back on track. And I think
Speaker 1: I have confidence in DJ that he will, just because
Speaker 1: I know the type of person and how hard of
Speaker 1: a worker that he is. It'd be nice to see
Speaker 1: all those guys coming up with you on the tight
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Speaker 1: flag been heading into the off season. We're a weekend,
Speaker 1: well less than a weekend. The last game was Sunday,
Speaker 1: of course, and there's already a lot going on. Logs
Speaker 1: head coach search, GM search, Trevor Lawrence declared for the
Speaker 1: draft this week. There's a lot j stuff happening and
Speaker 1: in the city council today, which is we'll leave that
Speaker 1: for the news anchors and reporters of the world, but
Speaker 1: at some point there could be news down the line
Speaker 1: on that in the next if not today then early
Speaker 1: next week. That's It's a lot changing happening going on
Speaker 1: around the Jaguars, on and off the field right now. Logs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot, and uh and I think it creates for
Speaker 1: a sense of excitement, and I think and that that's great,
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that you have when
Speaker 1: you have a team that only won one game is
Speaker 1: that you hope that you have hope And and I
Speaker 1: think with the expected drafting of Trevor Lawrence, with the
Speaker 1: excitement of who's gonna come in and coach this football
Speaker 1: team and also who's going to be making the decisions
Speaker 1: of who is gonna be able to say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna draft Trevor Lawrence. And then also who's gonna
Speaker 1: be determining who else this football team draft. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are all exciting things and and I think it's
Speaker 1: been a while since this organization has had kind of
Speaker 1: a sense or or a reset or a refresh and
Speaker 1: the excitement to go along with it. I think it's
Speaker 1: had reset, but not the excitement to go along with it.
Speaker 1: In the prospect of drafting a quarterback. First overall, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is a great opportunity. It can be
Speaker 1: potentially franchise altering and uh and exercise exciting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I look, JP, I'm I'm still watching Trevor Lawrence. I'm
Speaker 1: watching the University of Miami game now, so be like
Speaker 1: commercial breaks, I'm like right back down to my to
Speaker 1: my iPad watching Trevor Lawrence. It's great stuff. Is that
Speaker 1: the Miami game from this year? Yeah? Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: all this year stuff, man, because there's like hardly anybody
Speaker 1: in the stands. Of course South Carolina they had limited
Speaker 1: people in the stands. But he threw some beautiful deep
Speaker 1: balls in this game. Yeah, and I'm not uh, they
Speaker 1: still got a ways to go yet. They played well,
Speaker 1: that was a big ball game, and uh it was
Speaker 1: a top ten matchup. And and Lawrence had three touchdown
Speaker 1: passes in that game. Forty one passing wasn't acceptably sharp.
Speaker 1: I mean there was some you know, he had some completions,
Speaker 1: but they ended up blowing him out of the water.
Speaker 1: Et N had two touchdowns on the ground. Lawrence ran
Speaker 1: for a score as well. Yeah, and and the score
Speaker 1: that he ran on a little read option. I just
Speaker 1: got done watching read option play. And he fakes the
Speaker 1: handoff and then he's got one guy to beat, or
Speaker 1: appears to be one guy, and then, uh, that guy
Speaker 1: doesn't really get a good piece hing. But as he's
Speaker 1: going in, a second guy actually gets a piece of
Speaker 1: his head. Remember then, Uh, and when Trevor Lawrence stands up,
Speaker 1: he literally like spikes the ball all and get in
Speaker 1: the guy's face a little bit. I like it because
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the shot to the head when
Speaker 1: he was already crossing the end zone. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like it. I mean, give me, give me a little
Speaker 1: fire man, give me a little fire like fire. That's
Speaker 1: what happens when you play the University of Miami. You
Speaker 1: gotta give it right back to him. Sometimes, the Keynes man,
Speaker 1: those guys. You know, I see if I can, if
Speaker 1: I can get this play here on the goal line
Speaker 1: here it is JP. Okay, well I'll probably get we'll
Speaker 1: get in trouble from the standpoint of this is college film,
Speaker 1: and I don't put that down. I don't think we can.
Speaker 1: So I better not. You better put that. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the rushing touchdown. That down he scored, and he
Speaker 1: talked to the guy. Everybody's like everybody. First of all,
Speaker 1: everybody on the radio is going, dude, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? We can't see uh okay, it's radio. And
Speaker 1: then people that are watching on social media are sitting
Speaker 1: there going leading a game to the screen. Oh man,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour and we've got a
Speaker 1: little less than five minutes to go of the program.
Speaker 1: JP Shadrick and Jeff Lockaman. Glad you're along with us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. And if you've just joined us.
Speaker 1: This of course was the Doug Maron Show, and Doug
Speaker 1: Marone was relieved of his duties on Monday, and we
Speaker 1: wished him the best at the start of the program.
Speaker 1: But um now it's on to find a new head
Speaker 1: coach and a new general manager and Frank guys quarterback
Speaker 1: in that process. Yes, and we need to find a
Speaker 1: new host for next week, and I hear we we
Speaker 1: have the prospects of a really good one. We've gotten
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna make an upgrade next week since
Speaker 1: JP is going to be absent. Yeah, that's that's exactly.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it's called, and driving the bus exactly
Speaker 1: what the business calls it is an upgrade, yes indeed,
Speaker 1: and Ashley will be here next week for both hours
Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour four o'clock locally in Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network. We appreciate her
Speaker 1: stepping in, so I'll miss you next week, Logs, but
Speaker 1: we'll be back with you, probably not. I've been around
Speaker 1: you enough. I need to go see my family, so
Speaker 1: I'm good a j the the old b S meter
Speaker 1: just wanted. That's right. So some good playoff game Saturday
Speaker 1: and Sunday this week, and we won't hit them all here,
Speaker 1: but I must say I'm looking for first off to
Speaker 1: the Ram Seahawks, just because the Jags need the Seahawks
Speaker 1: to win and the Rams to lose to help the
Speaker 1: Trap status. That's my Saturday game I'm watching, and then
Speaker 1: the Ravens Titans match up. If you like running football,
Speaker 1: that's your game and that's mine. I like I like
Speaker 1: running I like the running football. And because Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is a back like like no other with the stiff
Speaker 1: farm and then you've got the electricity of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't you get kind of two different
Speaker 1: types of runners. One that's like electric and fast and
Speaker 1: and blinding, and then the other one is sheer power
Speaker 1: and brute strength and also speed and finesse. I mean,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is a combination of all of them that
Speaker 1: to me is gonna be must must watch TV. But
Speaker 1: I mean, every game, I think, for the most part,
Speaker 1: is gonna be a really good game. I think Chicago
Speaker 1: is gonna get hammered. I think Indianapolis is gonna get hammered.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those games are gonna be necessarily close,
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping just to be entertained. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about not having a dog in the
Speaker 1: race or a dog in the hunt, is that you
Speaker 1: can sit back and just sit there and look at
Speaker 1: the screen and go, you know what, entertain me, Give
Speaker 1: me good football, And for the most part, the NFL
Speaker 1: provides it. During playoff week, I must say, though, Lugs,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a dog in the hunt. For being honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, of course, better to have a dog in
Speaker 1: the hunt, you know. Uh, look, we haven't had a
Speaker 1: dog in the hunt much, JP, Right, and that's why
Speaker 1: we are where we are. So the goal is to
Speaker 1: have this dog hunting in January in future years. So
Speaker 1: let's all that's all this, you know, train our dog
Speaker 1: and getting ready for next year maybe, right? Sure, how
Speaker 1: many dogs have you trained to hunt? I'm scared to ask. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's there's there's one dog that can
Speaker 1: hunt pretty good and his name is Trevor. And so
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna work on and look, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Jaguars are going to the playoffs to slow down.
Speaker 1: Let's not give ourselves a speeding ticket. Okay, a end.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be a savior. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: good things that need to happen alongside the drafting of
Speaker 1: of a quarterback first overall. But but it's exciting, JP.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. How many texts have you
Speaker 1: received since the season ended, or should I say to
Speaker 1: go back since prior to the last game of the season.
Speaker 1: So since week came ended, people texted you about a
Speaker 1: bad football team, excited that you got the first overall,
Speaker 1: it's from people I had not heard from in a
Speaker 1: long long time. They came out of the week, so
Speaker 1: it's a big The Jaguars are on the radar again.
Speaker 1: Lives will talk to you in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan in next week to host this program. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening and for watching. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network.