WEBVTT - Hypocrisy of the White Church 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.800 Native Lamppod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.280 Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:09.799 Home, y'all. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:13.000 It is episode forty nine of a Native Lamppod. 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:13.440 I'm here. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.880 Angela Rye was my co host Andrew Gillam and Timmy Cross. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.360 Hi, y'all doing today? I'm real good. Let me just 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.200 tell you what I've been doing this morning. Macy. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.240 Well, the people are listening can't see either, So what 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:27.680 is it? 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.280 Oh that's true the people listening, Casey. But well for 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.240 the people watching video, they can't. This says Black Voters Matter. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.880 I was out hitting the block with Black Voters Matter 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.360 this morning. Canvason knocking on doors still fulfilling the birthday 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.479 dreams from a few days ago. I'm so glad I 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.800 got to knock doors with y'all. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.720 You know nothing, No, I just mean the people that 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.640 you get to talk to interact with. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.080 Well, you know, it was very good. It was good 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.720 in part because it's always good to see folks. We 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.920 met a woman named Miss Booker who was standing out 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.200 the church house. She says she got an organic garden 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.319 in the back. She said, let Georgia State. Know does 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.440 she growing stuff in the back in case they want 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.160 us cancer. She also gave Black Voters Matter a cash 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.479 donational envelope. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.560 She said she was turning out votes. It was beautiful. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.600 Uh and so, and they said, just. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.800 So we're super clear in case the Trump folks want 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.920 to come back and challenge their C three status. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:22.959 She said that. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.120 She they said they're gonna donate it to the C 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.360 three satur things because that nobody else can take care. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.120 So see, it was a beautiful morning. I'm listening. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.000 I was just gonna explain to the audience why that 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.560 matters and what C three means and all that that's 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:36.800 definitely not common knowledge. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.200 But I don't need to in Okay, Well it's just 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.200 a nonprofit. Yeah, it's a nonprofit. Look up a five 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.280 oh one C three online and we could jump into 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:49.080 our rundown today. All right, So we got a lot 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.720 going on, you guys. I cannot believe when this episode 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:56.000 airs there will be five days left until election day. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.440 We are talking about political violence, t if. I know 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.720 that's you're your topic, and it's something that's near and 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:02.320 dear to your heart. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.120 I think it's near and dear to all of our hearts. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.440 I'll tell you, I feel like everybody's focused on election day, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.520 and I really think it's the wrong thing. I think 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.360 we got to focus on what happens after election. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.640 Day, in addition, in addition. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:22.560 To on who commute. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.959 It's a good transition. He had Jesus on the main line. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:31.800 We got our first in studio yesterday. Ever, we never 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.560 do this, but for such a time as this, he 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.880 is he is. He's maybe we gonna keep him long enough, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:38.640 he'll stay with us. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.880 We might keep him as a close. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.160 Reverend Jamal Bryant is our good brother and friend. He 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.040 has been tearing it up on his own podcast. He's 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.560 been tearing it up in New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.040 He got engaged. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.639 He is hitting the streets for the for the campaign, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.080 letting people know what it is. He he heard a 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.760 pastor call the church the Antichrist. He has something to 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.840 say about that. He had Kamala Harris in the pulpit 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.760 the other day. She had on a she had on 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.840 a dress address she always got a pass. She said, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.360 I'm gonna go to the House of the Lord. I'm 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.040 gonna put my skirt on the day and she tore 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.760 it down to packed the house. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.480 Son wore a lap scarf, she had a prayer claw. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.400 Yes they missed. The press missed that. 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.560 Listen if she got a prayer clock. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:33.360 Anyway, aheads anymore. But when he said that, I'm like, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:34.760 that remind me of let's. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.200 Talk about why that is on the podcast already. But 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.600 I mean, I know, well you started it. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:48.800 You can only imagine this story should be hearing Lord Lord. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.840 The other thing that I think is important for us 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.000 to talk about tangential to political violence is why they. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.600 Burning up the ballot boxes, y'all. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.800 People dropping off their balance and they setting their boxes 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.960 on fire and through some in the middle of the street. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.560 Andrew were gonna talk about that because you know that 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.720 was in your state. What you got? 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.400 That's it. I'm ready to jump in. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.320 So, y'all, this is such an exciting show. We have 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.200 been challenged by the podcast Godfather who is Chris Morrow 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.679 on our network often like why don't y'all have guests? Well, y'all, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.760 it is time we needed to bring a guest in 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.240 studio to help us break down what is going on 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.520 with the church because there's so much happening. We had 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:30.680 Erica Campbell join us last week in Atlanta for our 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.560 Spellhouse homecoming show, and she had this to say when 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.320 we started talking about the Black church. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.920 I understand at the core of what abortion is people 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.000 calling it murder. Okay, I get that, But if Jesus 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.720 was here, what would he say to a woman who 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.400 had to choose. He wouldn't tell her what to choose. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.800 The Bible says our place before you life and death, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.960 So it is your choice. So if God lets me choose, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.000 how dare a government tell me what I can do 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.240 with my body if I'm doing the wrong thing. So 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.400 some people do choose to do the wrong thing, they'll 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.520 stand before God, not their government. And I think that 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.719 it is our job to remember that the government is 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.960 not my pastor. And if you got faith, no matter 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.600 what the economic strategy is, God still supplies all my 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.400 needs according to His which is in glory. Some are 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.520 already operating on a different level. So I don't feel 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.039 like even excluding somebody from the LGBTQ community if we 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.960 just honest about it. And I know I'm gonna get 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.440 in trouble for this. They already go to our churches, 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.120 they already sing, They're already here so what is it 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.320 that you're really talking about? 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.719 And then, just as a contrast, there is a man 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.640 who is the son of Jimmy Swaggert. If y'all don't 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.880 know about Jimmy Swaggert, I highly encourage the listening audience 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.160 to look him up. But Donnie Swagger had this to 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.599 say about the black church and black pastors everywhere, including 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.640 the one we're about to introduce, had some to say 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:53.120 about this. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.600 But today, where are the pastors? Where are the preachers 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.520 shunning out behind the sacred desk and proclaiming, Hey, listen, folks, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.919 we can't continue the way that we're going. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.040 Our nation cannot. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.320 Endure four more years of the Party of Molawk. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:14.480 Can't do it. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.839 I can't support a party that murders babies. I can't 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.279 support a party that believes in men marrying men and 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.520 women marrying women. I can't support a party that believes 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.120 in uti lady, the little girls because their minds are 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.000 confused over their gender. I can't support a party that 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.560 doesn't believe. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.080 In the Word of God. Can't do it, will. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:41.560 Not do it. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:42.520 I refuse. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.680 So with that, I think this is the perfect time 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.960 to introduce our guests. He's a fiery preacher, brilliant man. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.520 I've met him when I was in high school. Jamal 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.880 Bryant was the Youth and College division director for the NAACP. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.080 To watch your rise, Pastor has been amazing. You have 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.800 always been solid. I haven't known you to be anything 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.000 other than a truth teller. So we are so grateful 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.560 that you would join us here today. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.000 I'm updating my Wikipedia. I haven't made it. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.240 I'm on the publicast, and congratulations on yours. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.960 By the way, thank you killing it. Just as a footnote, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.920 Andrew knew my wife, my fiance before I did. Yes, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.680 he wrote her a letter of recommendation, so I'm back 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:28.400 in the detail. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.400 And did you say in the recommendation letter? 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.360 Quiet? But she is a brilliant, powerful, how willful preacher 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.600 and her own right that sister can slang the word Bishop. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:41.920 You made a great choice. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.920 I'm grateful. Thank you for the endorsement. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.520 I love that so much. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.560 So we wanted to have this conversation one. I'm just 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.960 going to be honest with you. The amount of tension 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.640 in the Black church right now around who to vote for, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:03.360 around reproductive justice or around gay marriage, around racial justice, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.000 and whether or not we should even lean in or 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.680 just be people of faith has been astounding to me. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.760 These are some of the things that I struggle with 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.840 as a young Christian going to a church of God 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.160 in christ Church and really trying to figure out where 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.680 my lane was because my dad is an activist, right, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.760 so like where like what is God calling us to do? 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.600 When it comes down to faith with our works is dead. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.040 We have the right to be here. We ain't asked 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.880 to come, but we here now. So what does it 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.840 look like to engage in What is the row of 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:33.439 the church in. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.880 That I think we're looking at the postcolonial slave church 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.559 as a lot of Black churches don't want to upset 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.920 the mass on so they are ascribing to what they 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.400 see on television. I want to put as a footnote 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.239 is an activists like all of us to be mindful 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.760 that the Black church in mass never supported doctor King. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.240 It's split the Baptis Convention. They have never been progressive, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.760 so there is no glory days. It has always been 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.720 a small remnant to do it. One thing is that 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.200 a lot of people are missing is that abortion is 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:17.120 not on the ballot. Yeah in some states, yes, on 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.200 a national thing, but I don't know how the preacher 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.080 who you just listened to said he can't be in 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:28.680 a party that supports a woman choosing, But he's in 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.160 a party that supports banning books. He's a part of 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.520 a party that schools will be fined if they teach 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.520 black history. He is in a party that does not 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.160 want to offer affordable health care. So when you talk 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.520 about pro life, does it stop at the wound? Because 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:50.960 this same party champions the death penalty. This same party 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.120 doesn't want to give money to head start programs. So 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.439 you can't pick and choose what is the ethics and 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.000 the morality. And so I think that the Black church 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.280 has got to clear its throat, oh uh and speak 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.240 prophetically that there is an era and uh, their candidate 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.880 does not reflect the morals that they are horsting. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.960 I often wonder, pastor, when you when you are in community, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.240 I mean you're you looked at, you know, within the 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.200 Christian faith, and I assume other faiths as a also 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:26.200 masterful handler of the word. You certainly uh are someone 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.440 who has inspired me and I know many many many 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:33.400 others along their walk. I wonder, does this conversation around 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:37.080 the issues that we that that uh, that inteligious enumerated, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.880 whether it be l G B, t Q rights, women's 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.400 right to decide the future for her own body. Are 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.880 they new conversations within the confines of the Black Church? 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.440 Is it? Are we revisiting old conversations or is it 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.719 is it so easily just kind of swept under the 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.800 rug and passed by we whisper about it. There are 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.920 a couple of sermons on it, and and that's it. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.760 Have we deepened into a conversation reopened to can that's 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.520 already been opened? Or is this our first time tuggling 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.000 with this? And if so why At the same time, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.000 Kamala's the cannedy for President of the United States. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.720 Yeah, I think there's deep seated issues is don't forget 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.240 at its core the gospel is controversial and we want 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.920 the gospel to be mainstream when the gospel in into 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.319 itself is designed to be countercultural. It was the church 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.640 that wanted to crucify Jesus, and so the issues that 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.720 we are called to delve into. John Maxwell says, if 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.160 you want to be like sell ice cream, our responsibility 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.440 is not to be maseuse, but to be chiropractors. Is 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.760 not to make people feel good, but to straighten us 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.360 out so that we can stand upright. So I think 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.719 that we've got to deal with the heavy lifting that 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.640 a lot of people don't really like Jesus. They like religion. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.680 Jesus said, love your neighbor as yourself. What if my 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:00.920 neighbor is LGBTQ, love my neighbor myself. What if my 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.959 neighbors coming from the abortion clinic, love my neighbor as myself. 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.480 What if they're just getting parolled and can't get a job. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.280 So those are the same neighbors we have a responsibility for. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.400 And the church has got a caution itself so it 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.320 doesn't become a country club instead of being a community center. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.400 Desmond Tutu said something Tiffany that I really champion. Here's 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.800 what Desmond Tutu said, at the end of every year, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:32.840 the poorest people in the community should vote to decide 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.480 whether the churches stay open the next year, and if 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.439 they don't have the votes, then they should close because 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.480 they're not really making an impact. And I think that 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.880 if we hold that model up to our churches, then 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.000 we're going to see a real glaring indictment of what 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.520 it is that we're really cultivate. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.480 Me ask you thank you for that. When you said 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.280 Desmon Tutu said this, I thought you were about to 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.280 toss to a sound bite. I'm like you right at home. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.640 I want to pull out a bit from the current 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:07.600 election because I don't attend a church. I don't go 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.959 to church every Sunday, and in fact, I know very 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.760 few people who actually do attend a church. Just for 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.360 context for our listeners and our viewers, so often when 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.079 you hear evangelicals or evangelicalism in the media landscape, the 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:25.760 white is silent. There's this presumption around race when it 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.600 comes to religion, which is laughable to us, but that 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.480 evangelicals are specific to white people, when in fact, most 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.360 people who are white and evangelicals have been bound to 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.560 the Republican Party. They presume that because they believe in 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.600 God and they are Republicans, that they self identify as 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.400 evangelicals despite never really going to church. So that's on 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.240 their side of the aisle. On the black folks, though 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.640 there's been a steady decline in church attendance, fort of 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.400 Black millennials say they rarely, if attend church. Forty six 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.240 percent of Black gen z ers say they rarely are 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.920 never attend religious service. This is all according to Pew Research. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.839 Despite this decline, though, black people continue to be one 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.400 of the most religious racial groups in the country. And 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:19.000 I wonder your thoughts on that dichotomy between attending church 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.880 services yet having a relationship with God. 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.240 Yeah, two dimensions to that, Tiffany. This is the largest 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.960 demographic of Black people since we've been in America who 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.400 do not ascribe to organize faith in any way. The 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.920 second part that that data does not disclose is that 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.640 while those numbers are true of those who attend church, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.600 the lapse in that data from George Barner is that 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.880 it's not showing how many young Black millennials and gen 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.120 z stream church. So while they physically don't go, a 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.360 lot of them watch online because quite frankly, they don't 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.280 want to drive twenty five minutes. They don't want to 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.320 be judged for teen two's and for piercings, and don't 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.440 want to be reprimanded by the usher because they got 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.120 on sunglasses and a hat. And so I think that 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.320 the church has got to remarket itself because we got 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.120 a great product, we just got bad wrapping paper. Because 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.840 we want to be quote politically corrected you gotta wear 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.000 a tie in a culture that no longer wears suits. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.040 Church is the only place. Negroes don't even get dressed 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.920 to go to court. They don't even get dressed for 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.720 their grandmother funeral. They wear spray paint t shirts. And 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.120 so I think that we've got to repack Yes, yes, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.160 we got to repackage what that means and what is 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:41.720 the gospel's amputated arm that we're not reaching the masses 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.120 at that level real quick? And I don't want to 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.840 belabor the point. Our generation, most of all of us, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.120 I guess in the same age group. So we grew 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.360 up watching The Love Boat, watching Good Times, watching Fantasy Island. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:16:00.600 This is the largest generation. You off top. Isaac is 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.240 now coming up from the Leado deck. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.840 Listen, you guys know I have a d D. He 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:05.920 sent me down a road. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.840 Come listen, come home. This is the largest demographic that 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.960 watches unscripted television. Uh so they're watching Black Ink are 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:26.560 Real Housewives of New York and love for me? You're 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.680 going to do it rest. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.080 On the podcast talk about my eighties. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.720 He threw the whole palm tree. He through the. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:49.920 Should have said Atlanta, which is where we are. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.560 Anyway anyway back to what the bastor. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.400 Was saying, Yes, as I was saying, tefy. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.280 But I'm glad people gonna see this and know now 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.080 while we. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:07.800 Crazy and yes, so a lot of the preachers are 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:13.280 doing scripted messages for unscripted generation and so they don't 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.960 come off as authentic. Angela. You would know from that 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:22.800 last election cycle, nobody thought that Trump was more intelligent 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.240 than Hillary. Nobody thought he had more experience, nobody thought 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.159 he had a greater global grass. The poll said she 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.040 was more relatable. He was more relatable, yeah, that they 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.840 could connect more with him, that she was overly polished, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.560 and I think that the church in a lot of 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.600 ways are overly polished. To the second part of your 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.760 question on white evangelicals, the data is still true. The 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.520 most segregated hour in America is still eleven o'clock on Sundays, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.800 and they have that influential voice because more often than 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.840 not it's the white preachers who were on television. True 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.600 black people are still on AM radios someday three to 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.240 seven BM and so I think that we've got to 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.440 enlarge what our message is and hold them accountable. It's 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:16.480 amazing you only see a multi cultural church when there's 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:17.360 a white pastor. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.400 What I really want to I really want to ask 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.720 this question. So you talk about it being the most 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:30.240 segregated hour again, So you guys, we've not really talked 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.240 about all my holy rolling days, but we should at 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:32.560 some point. 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:33.879 I ain't gonna go too far down. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.879 The road, but I was shocked, yes, to know that 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.200 some of the folks that I would watch on TV 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:44.480 and the John Haggis, the Rod Persons parsonally Parson personally, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.480 I don't know who Rod Persons is, but y'all, y'all 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:47.400 got it. 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.200 Like I used to. They sounded like us Jesse do planets? 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.800 All of them sounded like got black pread teams, Yes, 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.240 but no black people on the trustee board. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.160 And no black interests in their sermons. So I guess, 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:01.800 I guess. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.440 My question is what do the conversations look like when 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:10.280 you talk to white clergy, your white counterpart? Yes, have 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.479 you ever had a conversation where it was like, Okay, 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.520 I'm done with this. I clearly need to be back 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:21.000 in activism and I need to be running for office. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.320 We got to go to a break. But I want 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.880 to answer, have you answered that question? 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:34.120 Is just that sid on the other side. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.080 So your answer, sir, the answer is, let's not forget 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.800 the conversation that doctor King had with Billy Graham and 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.000 asked him, because black people are coming to your crusades 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.760 and to your events and filling your stadiums, how are 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.480 you not saying anything about integration? And Billy Graham said, 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:57.399 my call is just to preach Jesus. Your call is 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:02.360 to talk about Jesus and activism. So he never cross pollinated. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.000 And I think what you're saying is a lot of 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:11.080 selective biblical criticism from white evangelicals who will champion abortion 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.359 but will not say anything about aggressive police, will never 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.200 say anything about the prison pipeline. So you can't pick 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.560 and choose. What are of equality? 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:22.919 Do you talk to them? 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.040 Oh, they won't talk to me, so let me let 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.680 me give you. Let me just give you. I used 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.480 to be on all of the Christian networks. I was 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:34.360 on TBN, on Day Star, all of them until what happened. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.600 I didn't support Trump. This is true story. From the 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:44.040 moment I didn't support Trump, I was effectively canceled from community. 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.280 Yes, wow, you know it's interesting. 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.920 Economics, right, economics. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:49.840 In the church. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.320 You guys, remember when Donald Trump went before I forget 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.080 whose congregation it was at Liberty University. I think it 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.159 was a religious school, and they asked in this pool 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.360 got out there talking about I want to read from 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:07.600 Two Corinthians. Is hypocritical. I think when when we hear 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.000 about Christians and you know, pastor, I heard you say, 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.320 you know, they have the issue of abortion. I don't 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.960 call them pro life, that's what they call themselves, but 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.320 they are really anti choice because even when you talk 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.040 about the issue of abortion and you go to these 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:27.040 churches and these are oftentimes members of their congregation are wealthy, 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.000 even some of the pastors themselves, they are wealthy, and 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.719 they are out front on this issue of abortion. And 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.119 so you always ask, well, how many children have you adopted, 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.440 because you're saying that's an avenue for these women. How 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.720 many black children or brown children have you adopted. I'd 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.399 be concerned about a black kid growing up in a 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.880 space like that, And they don't answer. So I think 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:53.240 the it is a hypocrisy blanketed by really the desire 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.280 for power. And I don't know that that because there 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:02.439 are I actually have seen churches with black pastors, but 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.680 they different. They different, you know, they are a different 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.040 kind of black pastor black pastors with multi. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:12.040 Definitely is the underbelling. The underbeling nobody deals with it 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.480 is more white girls have abortion than the past. Yeah, 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:18.680 nobody deals with that. Uh. And the reality is they 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.119 have painted this face on all of the black baby. 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.720 But the reason why they're trying to safeguard it, and 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:26.119 Andrew would have the numbers better than me, is that 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.600 they see the shrinking majority, uh, and they want to 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.600 try to uh make sure that they keep some leverage 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.800 of control because as that comedian said, is the Puerto 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.520 Rican's gonna have babies. The black people are gonna have 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.200 the babies. They we're gonna have him scared, We're gonna 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.840 have him and go live at our grandmother house. We're 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.520 gonna go and live in on our best friend's couch. Uh. 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.800 And so it is that really them trying to do 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.800 some population control because otherwise they want you to have 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.760 the baby, but they don't want to offer prenatal care. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.520 And yeah, I want you to have the baby, uh, 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.399 but they're not dealing with the inequator amount Angela, you 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.679 would have it of black women who die on the 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.239 table because they're not getting the kind of support that 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.520 they need, and so let's not just leave it as 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.560 a myopic issue when a whole lot of other panople 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:18.560 that we got to open up with. 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.000 What's your prediction? Because I think the point that you 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:22.800 just made about white women is so key, and I 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.520 told you I am hopeful that white women, a significant 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.320 amount of white women if she can cut into that 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:30.200 fifty two percent. 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.480 By as soon as said this, all these white women 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:35.000 start walking down the stairs that I have. 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:37.520 To get me. 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:38.639 We got you. 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:47.600 As Let me just say, I got salt and Peppa. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:48.879 I ain't scared. 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.040 Okay, God, you didn't kiss them today. You didn't kiss them. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.480 These girls stay ready. Anyhow, I think that white women 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.240 will go and do the right thing this election because 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:01.240 it's an issue that directly impacts them. You're right, proportionally 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.800 white women have more abortions than black women. But I 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.119 want to hear from you based on what you see, 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.679 based on conversations with your congregation in the community, especially 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.639 being based in Atlanta. What's your prediction for the election? 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.639 I think number one. I think the fifth we're going 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.160 to have a slumber party. I don't think that we're 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.880 going to know the answer that night. I don't think 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:25.600 that we'll know till midday on the sixth. I am 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.280 concerned for places like Georgia that they won't certify the election. 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.760 President Trump gave a tip of his hat the other 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.040 day in New York and said that they got a surprise, 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.560 he and Speaker Johnson, and so I think that it's 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:42.879 going to be a lot of upheaval. I think that 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.080 the only way that we will have peace is if 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:50.920 Vice President wins by landslide. If it is close, it's 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.400 going to be terrible. I don't know if you all 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:59.000 saw just recently President Trump posted that pennsylvaniaish. 0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.640 China because he's losing. 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.520 For him to say that now week out is they 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.840 are already trying to put a seed plot in the ground. 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.199 So I'm praying that it's going to be not an 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.960 October surprise, but a November surprise. 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:11.159 You know. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.800 And we know that Republicans just asked the Supreme Court 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:21.600 to block to block the sorry to block the counting 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.760 of Pennsylvania provisional ballots, So they're setting it up even 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.959 at the Supreme Court level. Supreme Court cited with Governor 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:33.200 Younkin in Virginia on throwing out votes that they challenged 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.639 these folks citizenship on and Tiff I think to this 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.080 point that gets right to the heart of the political 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.440 violence that you've been raising on every single I think we. 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.240 Have a viewer question that takes us right to that point. 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.439 I want to be sure to get them in. So 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.200 let's roll that question and we'll talk about it. 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.639 Good afternoon, name of Layam Pond. This is Thomas and 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.320 I come to you from the Dayton and Springfield, Ohio area. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.160 Shout out to Angela and Wilberforce. 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.199 I live not too far from here, so thank you 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:07.720 for your efforts there, and I worked in Springfield, so 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:14.280 I have seen the cultural implications that have happened in 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:20.520 Springfield and obviously nationwide with the political discourse and cultural 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.320 discourse and everything that's going on, and then with the 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:32.160 obviously the Madison Square Garden comments and everything that's happened 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:36.560 in the past eight years nine years with Donald Trump 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:43.480 being the Republican candidate. When Kamala Harris gets elected, and 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.760 that's a hope of mine and I'm sure of everybody 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.720 there and anybody who listens to this podcast, once she 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:57.720 gets elected, do you think that she will be enough 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:04.240 to heal everything that's happened over the past couple of 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.520 election cycles. Thanks for taking my question. Have good day. Hmm. 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.760 He looked like he in a truck. If he a 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.840 truck driver, I want to him out because my brother 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.840 is a truck driver. As I said, so shout out 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.240 to truck drivers. Just so our listeners and viewers. No, 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.399 Angela is on the board of Wilberforest. That's why he 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.359 was saying thank you to Angela for are. 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.960 You really my grandparents met it one. 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.399 I did not know that. Yes, I'm on the board. 0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.640 It is long even on this my highest honor. I've 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.600 been on the board for six years. 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:40.040 Six year. 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:41.440 Shout out. 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.760 I teach you paint seminary you do yes? 0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.440 The response guest. 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.919 Yeah, I think yeah. The number one I think that 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.760 I don't want us to put an unfair weight on 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.320 Vice President uh for the responsibility that was part of 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.360 the onus that was shelved on to President Obama that 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:13.240 he was given the responsibility to heal the racial divide 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.199 in eight years to override three hundred and Trump is 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.280 evidenced that it didn't work. So I think that she 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:27.040 is better positioned to heal the country than President Trump will, 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:29.920 but I think that all hands have to be on deck. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:34.520 I was in South Africa as a student doing study 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:39.400 abroad when President Mandela was elected, and they had something 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.720 all over South Africa called the Truth and Reconciliation where 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.560 people were able to give hearings of their experience and 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.120 to discuss how they had been impacted. Because President Mandela 0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:54.120 was of the mind you really can't govern in post 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.239 apartheid culture when you still have the tremors of the 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:02.160 impact of that trauma. And so until America really faces 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.960 it's not going to happen. But the second level, James Cone, 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:10.000 Great to Liberation theologian said, the greatest thing in America 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:14.160 after racism is sexist And so now we've got two 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.040 different wounds that we've got to handle. And what I 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.240 meant to speak to Tiffany, the reason why it is 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.080 so difficult for the Black church to get behind Kamala 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.800 is because we have apostolic misogyny. A lot of Black 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.840 churches still don't let women preach, still don't let women mam, 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.560 and so it is gonna be a problem. 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.840 And seeing that data, but in your experience, you found 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.719 it difficult for the Black church to back Vice Resident Harris. 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:48.040 Well, they wouldn't be polled. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm saying, 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.120 And a lot of Apostolic and Pentecosta reformations. In twenty 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.520 twenty four. Women still can't pastor, that's right. They still 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.080 can't be ordained the elders in the church. And so 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.800 now this will uproot their theology that you can't be 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.200 a pastor, but you can't be a president. 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.160 Women are not supposed to be the head. 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:07.440 There we are. 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.600 And now there's a thing where I don't know if 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.120 you've heard this one. They say, Well, making her ahead 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:14.720 of the country doesn't mean that she's the head of 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.760 her household. 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.040 A whole lot of white women who are head of 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:21.360 a house. 0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.600 Cognitive sort of dissidence I think between the membership and 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.560 its leadership when it comes to the Black Church, because 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.840 there are things that I've heard preached about that I 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:34.760 would never follow. It has not necessarily turned me away 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.720 from the Black Church, as it is largely because the 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.120 Black Church is still a place regardless of what levels 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.160 you reach in society, how wealthy you are, how far 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.440 you have to drive to get to it, that prioritizes 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.080 the issues that confront us By virtue of our race. 0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.440 It's a place where our humanity is still seen first, 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.880 and whether you're wealthy or not so wealthy, there's still 0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.400 some shared experience there which doesn't necessarily have and for 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.520 a lot of other folks in a lot of different faiths. 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.080 But but I think the memberships of the church. I 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.880 agree with you. Jeff, you're you're you know you're where 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.680 you were headed, which was that I think we're gonna 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:16.400 overwhelmingly be behind Kamala Harris. But Pastor, you're completely right. 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.120 I got offended in one place where they made my wife, 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.000 who was introducing me, speak from a podium on the floor, 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.800 whereas I was behind the microphone. And then when I 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.440 put it together, no woman got behind the microphone. All 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.080 of them spoke from the floor, and that wasn't the 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.240 same situation for men. 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.000 I do. 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.720 This is a frustration of mine. I'm curious if it 0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.920 plagues any of y'all. But I was having a conversation 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:44.920 yesterday with a conservative for one of our UH support 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.320 staff here for Native Land podcast that he runs, and 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.960 the conservative a number of times evoked, well, black babies 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.000 this or the black community in Chicago and Philadelphia. No, no, 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.640 da and I would say, you know, the only time 0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.600 I hear y'all is concerned about black folks is in 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.880 juxtaposition to how bad it is that we have it 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.480 here in America. But I never hear you doing anything 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.000 about it. You don't rise up with me at a march, 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.280 You don't rise up with us on the conditions of 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.280 economic parody, so on and so forth. Why is it 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.360 that you seem to only name check us when it's 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.000 in relationship to something negative that's going on as some 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.920 provocation for me to now vote for Donald Trump. I 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.080 don't know how you handle these debates. I didn't end 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.040 up ultimately going there because I didn't want to again 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.080 deepen into sort of the racial divide thing. But it's 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.400 a total annoyance to me that that's the only time 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.200 I seem to hear this debate. Donald Trump, his running mate, 0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.800 their surrogates, all of us, all of them seem to 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.320 name check black folks, but only yes in comparison and 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:51.400 to further suggests how bad things are for us, and 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.560 then there's a complete abandonment of us. 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:58.680 It's selective marketing because they don't talk about Ayowa and 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:04.040 the opioid addiction. They don't talk about North Dakota in 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:08.440 fentanyl that they're not dealing with the level of white 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:14.239 teens in suburban centers who are committing suicide. Uh. And 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.960 so I think that we've got to enlarge the conversation. Uh. 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.840 That is not even just a black problem or white problem, 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.440 but it is reflective of an American problem. 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:24.000 Uh. 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.560 And Andrew, you best poised than any of us, can 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:31.400 really sound that alarm about what it is that it means. 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.600 You're one of the most consequential figures for our generation 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.800 in one of the most critical regions, and your voice 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.720 is so necessary from that depth of experience that you 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.600 have in wisdom to really speak it and to take 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.760 it on. It ain't just in Duval, but is happening 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.640 is happening all the loaf Uh. And you've got to 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.920 highlight and so I would encourage you to go on 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.560 those spaces because they not let me an angel. 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.040 I'm want to make this point about fentanyl because that 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:07.200 is something that the right actually does bring up consistently 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.400 around fentanyl, and they try to link it with the 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.160 immigration status. And so I just want to offer some 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.520 information there. The largest known group of fentanyl smugglers is 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:24.239 actually not made of immigrant immigrants acrossing the border. They 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.799 are Americans coming through legal ports of entry. So more 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.760 than eighty percent of the people's sentence for fentanyl trafficking 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.360 at the southern border are US citizens. And that's according 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:38.160 to US all day. Just so we're clear. Someday, Well, 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.040 I want to well, I have a question for you guys, 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.360 because I want to stick with this theme of political violence. 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.120 I you know, is my assertion. I think we're focused 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.160 on the wrong thing, like election Day is going to happen. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.120 I Angela knows. I tell her all the time, she's 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.120 gonna win. She's gonna win. She's gonna win. But to 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.360 the viewer's question, in terms of what happens next, I 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.880 do I am bracing myself for violence. I think y 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.880 will come in the courts. I think violence will come 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.759 in media. I think violence will come at the ballot 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.719 box as we've seen, and I think violence will as 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.799 certainly come in the street. Angela, you and I run 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.719 the phone yesterday we were talking about this. I was 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:14.440 talking to my sister Latasha, who did an Instagram posting 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.920 this Latasha Brown, who runs Black Voters Matter, And you 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.520 guys are saying I don't know, it feels different this time. 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.279 You know, this rhetoric feels different, and I want you 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.239 to talk about why it feels different. But I just 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.759 to remind people of what has because everybody, the media 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.400 made a big deal out of Madison Square Garden rally 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.839 with all the racism, and it's like, were you guys 0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.040 not paying attention the past ten years in the media landscape, 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.320 it's nothing new. I just want to play some sound 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.239 from one of his rallies in twenty sixteen, and this 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:49.000 is all nat sound that you will hear from attendees, 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.479 and I'll try to talk through it for the people 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.359 who can't see it. Nick, let's roll that clip. 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:55.799 You're making me leave to. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:01.920 Walk up ahead. 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.080 God bless Brown. 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.319 I'm taking the shirt off. I'm not bucking a baby. 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:08.520 What's your problem with talk? 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.839 Said Usman is not a religion partner anology? You don't 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.120 I'm talking about America. 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:17.680 You don't want to talk about. 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:35.920 Obama. The Trump, our president has divided this country. He 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:36.920 doesn't do back there. 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:37.920 Just tron the hell. 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:41.960 You're talking about. 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:08.960 Silas. 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.680 I'm sure that may more kinds of Spanish. 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:13.880 Next together. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:20.040 Who So that's from a rally? In twenty sixteen. If 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:24.200 you're listening and not watching, it was constant scenes of violence. 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.279 If you didn't hear some of the things they were saying, 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:32.680 they use the F word rhymes with rag. They said 0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.360 F that nigger referring to President Obama. So I just 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.520 want to punctuate the point what we're seeing is nothing new. 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.359 We have all this has been consistent with his rally. 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.520 So it was very disconcerting to me to see the 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.719 media handle Madison Square Garden with shock and awe when 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.919 this is what has been consistent at Trump rallies since 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.600 twenty fifteen. Again, this is from twenty sixteen, almost eight 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.680 years ago. So I just wonder what it is that 0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:03.120 feels different and just curious you guys thoughts on the landscape. 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.600 That's Angela Andrew and Pastor Bryant would love to hear 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:06.800 from you. 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.200 Let's go to break and then we'll talk about what 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:11.240 we think under this side. 0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.360 Welcome back to the Native Lyon podcast. I'm Pastor Jamal Bryant. 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.880 I'm still in shock and awe from the video we 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.600 just listened to. It is dizzying. But Tiffany, I think 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:38.840 that we have really become a nesteized that the bizarre 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.480 has become normal, that there is. 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.160 Now no low bar. 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.840 No matter what it is that happens, We've just accepted 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.920 it and have gone on. It has not even lasted 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:54.600 a full new cycle on the insults against Puerto Rico. 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.920 It's not even a blink of the eye that doctor 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.920 Phil said America doesn't need DEI because it was completely 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.800 built on hard work. We're seeing your time and time again, 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.720 and to our amazement as critical thinkers, people are drinking 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.200 it by the gallon with a straw. To say to 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.840 the comedian in New York, he was just joking the 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.680 doctor Phil, Oh, well, you know he's really not a doctor, 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:24.759 to the president saying, oh, I don't think we even 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.399 vet who speaks at the microphone. And so I think 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.520 that places like Native Land have got to keep our 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:37.280 eyes open to say that it's happening right in our midst. 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:40.439 The fact of the matter is that they can stay 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.040 in an open mic that January sixth was just a 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.160 festival of love since to us that we are in 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:52.279 the lost episode of the Twilight Zone. And so I 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.440 think that we've got to keep our foot on the gas. 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:55.439 Yeah. 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.439 I ah, no, no, no, you got it. She wanted 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.000 you to expressivis differ. 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:00.680 Yeah, yeah. 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:04.080 What feels different? Yeah. What feels different to me is 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.040 I think that although we know that they were. 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:12.480 Boldly saying violent things, being extraordinarily racist, despite people shocking 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.640 all that racism was a name that we could throw 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.120 out at Donald Trump, not just from twenty sixteen, but 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.000 from his history of birth rihism, refusing to rent to 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.960 black people in the full page as he took out 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.120 on the Central Park five. I think what felt different 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:29.440 is they said it in the crowd, they set it 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:33.640 outside of the building. There were dog whistles that I 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.600 think became foghorns. But I think this time what was 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.680 different to me is it was in New York on 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.919 a mic joke after joke after our jokes that weren't funny, Yeah, 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:50.600 you know colin Puerto Rico and Island of Garbage saying that, yeah, 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:51.880 I was getting there. 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:52.239 Yeah. 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.680 And he had another one for Latinos saying, you know, 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:56.719 they don't pull out just like they don't do in 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:57.280 our country. 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.360 It just just vile and disgusting. 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.880 Jokes, right, And it wasn't just me, I'm clear, everybody 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.560 who took the podium a madimatolage and. 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.359 It was all of the folks in the crowd who 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.879 laughed to agree. Some folks grown, but they didn't leave. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:14.279 Right. 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.600 I think that that felt very different to me. It 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.719 feels this time like they're even bolder with it. To 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.160 your point, Pastor where you said that, you know, Donald 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.520 Trump says, we have a surprise for you, me and 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.880 Speaker Johnson. That is bolder, you know, than he has 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:30.440 been before. 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:31.399 This man has been. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.400 Indicted for this right, and now he's like, let me 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.160 get back on here and say, y'all were really gonna 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:36.680 take this thing. 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:38.440 They're gonna try to take it from us, but we're 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:39.320 gonna get bolder with it. 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.520 Not Is it that he's just bold at the mic 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.759 and bold with an alleged comedian. They're also bold with 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.440 the Supreme Court challenges. There was a time where there 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.880 was a respected window. I think it's a ninety day 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.400 period where you do not challenge what's happening in the 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:56.960 voting booth. 0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:57.880 They're like, the hell with that. 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.520 The Supreme Court is on our side anyway, and the 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.600 Supreme Court is ruled in their favor. That is the 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.560 very thing that I think we've been most afraid of 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.279 on this podcast. So it does feel remarkably different to 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:08.600 the point, it feels like it. 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.520 But I just I will just punctuate Angela. They were 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.680 saying those same things at the microphone then Donald Trump himself, Well, 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.920 I didn't see it. That's my point, like we it's 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.040 so much coming at us that we literally forget. 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.720 We can't your point, you know, to your point, Tiffany, 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:33.640 that on political violence, psychologists will say there are seven 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:37.640 different forms of abuse, and we only focus on physical 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.279 We don't deal with verbal abuse, we don't deal with 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.759 the emotional abuse, we don't deal with financial abuse. And 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:48.320 so what we're seeing is sophisticated racism. They're not burning 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:51.800 crosses in front of the church anymore. They're redlining the 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.480 zip code around the church. Uh, they're doing a gentrification 0:42:55.719 --> 0:43:01.160 at a high velocity speed. They are really changing the laws. 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.920 If we're listening intently, that if you teach black history, 0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:10.080 your school will lose funding. I think that the yes, 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:14.399 the violence that you're speaking of is happening, and we're 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.840 getting punched into chests and have a fractured ribcage and 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:23.320 got black eyes and don't notice it because we're putting 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.759 on mac lipstick on time. But the abuse is a 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.080 whole lot more intense than what it was past. 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.840 You're so right around the way in which the violence 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.480 is being delivered. It's more palatable in some forms and 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:41.080 less palatable in others. The video that the Tiffany Q 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:45.320 obviously is overt out loud. No one can shuck and 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.360 turn their eyes away from the fact that it is 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:52.080 exactly what it looks like. But in a state like Florida, 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.080 and Florida is not alone, It's multiplied, you know, by 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.839 the tens in other states, all across the traditional south 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:04.040 of the US. You've got governors who have already put 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:09.040 into place policies that extract the teaching of black history 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:14.520 out of curriculum. They've already changed what kind of information 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.719 is contained on tests, statewide tests that kids are taking 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:23.520 every single year to again extricate the truth of American 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.360 history out of it from it and then to of 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.240 course rip those books off the shelves with no penalty 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.239 to face, no penalty to be faced, but because it's 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:34.960 being delivered by a governor who wears a suit or 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.600 a nice dress with a flower on top of it, 0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:46.320 that somehow it is appropriate and not only appropriate but 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.320 right for the times, reflective of our political environment, reflective of, 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.400 by and large, the cultural center at the time. All 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:57.000 those things they're happening already. You said, you know, mac 0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.800 lipstick on a pig, But that's exactly the form and 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.080 to take it. And I say all that to say 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.880 that this is not just a problem or a party 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.359 of Donald Trump. You can remove him if you want. 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.040 I hope we do so successfully throughout this, you know, 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.759 in this election cycle, by soundly and roundly defeating him. 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:18.800 But his policies, what he is advancing, what he's talking about, 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.560 he's just you know, he's just a messier spokesperson. But 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.880 the truth is is that this is what they believe. 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.040 This is who they are. These are the policies that 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.640 they are advancing in our states, all across the country. 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.600 They're no different. And that's what I hope, you know, 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.120 to the earlier question of will a Kamala have to 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.120 you know, be the right person to sort of get 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.880 us past our divides, well, it takes two partners. It 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.719 takes more than her. Hare's got to be willing participants 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:48.520 opposite her on the other side. And when you got 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.560 the speaker of the House, who's trading secrets of Donald Trump, 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.120 likely about how it is that they want to steal 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.759 this election. You got Mitch McConnell, who is about to 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.919 be outgoing leader, but while he was there, he stole 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.399 the US Supreme Court and hated Republicans in taking over 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:07.800 the court. So I am I'm less dreary about the 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.640 outcome of the election at this point in time, because 0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.160 I think we will do what we need to do 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:16.680 to deliver at least Kamala Harris into the presidency. But 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.879 I'm I'm not terrified about the violence and the forms 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.319 that it may take. I'm terrified about what the next 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.360 four years are going to look like in the States 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.360 and even at the federal level, where they're coming to 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:34.680 continue to produce this very disruptive and harmful agenda to 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.080 our communities. And they're going to do it and it 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.040 won't get the attention that Donald Trump is getting because 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.640 it's going to be delivered in a pretty package with 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:47.280 a bow, rather than you know, chaotically and with violence 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.520 and all the other stuff that makes us all in 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.560 polite society clutch pearls. I don't believe that that's the 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.319 way it's going to happen. But I think that's going 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:55.560 to be the most detrimental part. 0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:01.000 It is the last opportunity for the Black Church and 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:05.480 our traditional civil rights organizations to prove themselves. 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.560 Andrew, I know that's your computer Nation, I know it is. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.560 It could be somebody on the production and you don't 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:13.800 know it. 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.600 I don't know thumb is ding it anyway. So here's 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.719 the thing that I also wanted to put on y'all's radar. 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:20.800 That's making me nervous. 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.919 So we know that there have been ballot boxes set 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:27.120 on fire in Arizona, in my own state of Washington, 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:32.040 and in Oregon. Some folks are saying that those articles 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.880 are saying not just the people are saying, but articles 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:38.040 are saying that there have been association with Gazza protesters 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:40.520 free guys associated with those ballot boxes burning. But there 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.000 was also some ballots found in the middle of the street. 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.560 Andrew and tif I said that to y'all, and I 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.200 was like trigger warning because I tell Pastor, I tell 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.040 Andrew all the time, Like, I don't know who's more 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.920 frustrated about that alleged election loss in twenty eighteen, me 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.960 or Andrew. Because it's stuff like this that happens in Florida. 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.600 So they find these ballots in the middle of the 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.239 street and this man turns them in to the police station. 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.040 There's a sealed bag in a sealed box. He takes 0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.920 them into the police station. Yesterday, they said that they're fine, 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:12.279 they certified them, they're good. 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.920 But what, like, where are they doing? They just drop 0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.279 it off? Mellisin, Like, that's violence. 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:23.200 I believe anymore on all that. I mean, verification, verify, 0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.600 verify verified. Yeah, I mean even in eighteen, even in eighteen, 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.880 we had, you know, issues. 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.319 There were ballots they refused to count that. 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.160 Were in the post. 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.240 I remember there was a bomber and he was sending 0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:40.480 bombs through the mail into Florida in twenty eighteen, which 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:44.080 then slowed down in counties like Broward and Miami Dade, 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:48.560 largely targeting black post offices and Palm Beach County like 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.160 post offices or at least where patrons where the majority 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:54.680 of patrons tend to be black, and it halted the 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.040 delivery of mail because they bought in an additional level 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.600 of security screening so that these employees wouldn't be opening 0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:07.480 this mail. And some explosion happens and Unfortunately, some of 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.359 the opening of that mail drug on beyond the point 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:16.200 of certification and so thousands all of that. So they 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.920 know how to disrupt elections, There's no doubt about it. 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:19.840 They know how to do it. 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.560 The lack of certifications. That only good news I have 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.239 to think about the certification process is that in a 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:28.520 lot of these places where they're refusing certification, the precincts 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.480 are actually majority Republican precincts, and so the nullification of 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.320 the vote is actually the nullification of their votes. You 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.200 can't go to a black precinct unless you live in 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.960 that precinct and be on the certification board there. You 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.000 must be a voting member in that precinct in order 0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:49.879 to certify or to refuse certification. So the good I think, 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.840 just like they did injury to themselves and the midterm 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:56.120 elections after twenty twenty Donald Trump telling people not to 0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:01.560 mail in ballots cost them. They're creating reliability of the system. 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.879 Saying elections are being stolen actually depressed their turnout Black 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.360 folks that have persisted through this before. 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.200 Yeah, that's and that's the thing, like I think that 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.120 we have to acknowledge, Like one, this is one place 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.120 where I disagree with you slightly on a nuanced I 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.360 don't think it's a good idea to have anybody believing 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:23.120 that elections aren't reliable and that we count we can't 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:24.000 count on the vote. 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.879 I think it is also frustrating. 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.279 That there are places that are predominantly black where our 0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.560 votes are constantly challenged, tried suppressed. 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.040 And even when you look at what the Supreme Court's. 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:41.200 Involvement in this, they're the same ones that have essentially 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.200 got rid of, gutted section five and section four of 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.200 the Voting Rights Act and take took the teas out 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:47.879 of section two. 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:52.160 So now right before literally by the time our episode airs, 0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.399 we're gonna be five days out pastor now. 0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.520 It is these these people who we say are not 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:00.480 citizens in Virginia, their ballots don't count. 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:00.759 You can. 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.320 That's a voter perb that's a purchase of the rules 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:04.719 right before election day. 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:05.800 That is violent. 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.120 If when you talk about what's happening in Pennsylvania, to 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:13.520 be clear, Joe Biden only won Pennsylvania by eighty thousand votes, 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:19.200 them saying that provisional ballots cannot get counted regardless of 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.399 if a mail in ballot is counted. 0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:24.400 Is an affront to democracy. It really really is. 0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.680 And I think no matter what side of the aisle 0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.560 you stand on, you guys, I don't know if our 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:30.400 listeners know this. 0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:32.279 The Voting Rights Act. 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:36.280 In every single reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act until 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:42.080 Barack Obama became president was a bipartisan vote. It was 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.479 very rare for a Republican to vote against the Voting 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:49.080 Rights Act reauthorization. Even in nineteen sixty five, there were 0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:50.719 a handful of folks that voted against it. 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:52.560 You know, I don't got the exact numbers, but look 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:53.600 it up to in fact check me. 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:54.839 That is for sure. 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.440 But now all of a sudden, when black people. 0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.400 Can get to the top of the ballot, a sudden, 0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.120 we got all these voting challenges and concerns, and we 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.160 need voter ID and early voting days. 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:06.239 We can't have them that long. 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.440 And you want to be vote absentee? Why are you 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.960 voting absentee? And we want to make sure that you're 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.200 actually a citizen. We want to make you prove that 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.480 you're worthy of the vote, despite the fact that your 0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:20.400 ancestors died for this right is It is a major problem. 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:22.600 It needs to be confronted, and I don't think we 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:24.879 should be looking at this at a partisan level at all. 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.680 It is politically violent on all sides to try to 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:31.920 discount and deterve people from believing in a democracy that 0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:34.760 yes it's fragile, then yes, in many ways is fractured, 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.000 but it is not broken and it can be perfected. 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:38.600 Didn't mean to be good, and that's so bad. 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.800 I think, just like factually speaking, that is a consistent 0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:44.840 problem that was so baked into the media that it 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.640 wasn't even covered. You know, I've talked about this a 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.840 lot on the show. But in Detroit in twenty sixteen, 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:57.799 more than eighty voting machines malfunctioned, which resulted in discrepancies 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.359 in fifty nine percent of the precincts. I mean, these 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:05.080 are these are actual infrastructure issues because it wasn't covered. 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:10.000 It simply was not covered by the press unfortunately. And 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.000 speaking of I do want to get in another viewer 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:15.680 question because someone has a question talking about that, uh 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:19.560 the media. So let's roll that and then we can 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:20.759 talk about it on the other side. Think we can 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:21.640 get it in before a break. 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:25.080 He need a lampod It's Leah here. First of all, 0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:27.360 thank you so much for the platform. I love listening 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:31.280 to y'all every single week. My question is actually about 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.200 post election, but before you come from me, Angelae, I 0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.239 voted already and I've been telling everybody I know I 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.520 love to vote, but I feel like a lot of 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.439 people in my community and a lot of friends, feel 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.239 like once the president is in office, we do. 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:44.319 Not hear from them again. 0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:49.080 Tiffany also talk about how legacy media is declining. The 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.200 views are not what they used to be in the 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:57.279 journalism isn't just for what it feels like for us 0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:01.160 right now can be trustworthy. I also own and operate 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.279 to publishing companies, So I guess my question to you 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:07.759 is what can us as people who are building media 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.680 companies be doing to drive this link and how can 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.600 we keep the momentum going because so many people are 0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.800 more civically engaged than they ever have been, and I 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.040 don't want that to fall off once the president goes 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.480 into off it. So let me know, Carris, to hear 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:26.120 your thoughts. It's giving maybe like a newsletter from our president, 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.880 like I would subscribe to that because what are this 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:29.600 on a task? 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.640 What are we doing on a weekly, monthly and quarterly basis. 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:34.799 Thank you so much, love y'all. 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.120 I love that question and I love her. I voted sticker, 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:39.560 and we will have an answer for her on the 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.240 other side of his break, so I don't go anywhere. 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.360 Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:57.400 Welcome back to natively. I think we all we all 0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.320 think she had a few questions in there, and we 0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.120 all probably I have something to say about it. I'll 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.160 just quickly say about the mediacau she's saying she's building 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:05.960 a publishing company. I would need to know more about 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:07.840 it to see if it's actual, you know, journalism or 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:09.840 you book publishing, Like what does that mean? But I 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:12.839 would just say for the media every week, I feel 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.400 like I'm complaining and moaning about something in the media, 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:20.160 but honestly, just the it is beyond a broken landscape 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.160 at this point. It is utterly ridiculous. And I already 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.360 talked about the way the media covered this Madison Square 0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:29.920 Garden rally, but I keep punctuating the point of newsroom diversity. 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.560 You know, there still seems to be an effort in 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.680 this country to center the comfort of white folks, and 0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:38.880 not even just white folks, older conservative white folks, a 0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.440 shrinking demographic in this country. When you look at the 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:45.560 print landscape, when you look at the media narrative, voter 0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:48.840 suppression was so baked into the cake in every story 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:53.000 pre twenty sixteen. We're just now barely scratching the surface 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.600 on voter suppression. The same way, Angela, that you were saying, Oh, 0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.680 I didn't even know about Detroit. Most people didn't know 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:00.320 about Detroit because it wasn't covered. If something like that 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.359 happened with Harvard College admissions, it would have been breaking news. 0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:07.280 Something like that happened with Target losing that many members information, 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.160 it would have been breaking news. But because it was 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.600 voting in a predominantly black neighborhood, people did not pay 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:15.240 much attention to it and it simply was not covered. 0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.320 So I think the more the media continues to center 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.840 a shrinking demographic, the more they will see their viewership shrink. 0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:24.080 And we have to be wise about where we spend 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.480 our time, our energy, our dollars. We have to be 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.360 wise when it comes to misinformation and disinformation. So be 0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:33.040 careful and share responsibly, but also be wise about what 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.120 you're watching. You know, Angela, we talk about having anxiety 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.759 and I'm like, I think it's an intentional effort of 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.839 the press to keep us anxious about this election because 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:43.879 they want you to keep tuning in. I find when 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.320 I don't watch the news, when I'm just reading things 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:50.879 that are politically edifying, that are informative, my anxiety goes 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.839 way down. But I do like her question about how 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.040 to stay engaged. So I'm curious what you might tell 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:59.400 young people, Angela and Andrew who there is this momentum 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:03.040 around presidential elections, and then when it's over, you know 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:05.560 what happens. Where does that excitement go? What can they 0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:06.880 be doing with their time and energy? 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.960 I love this question for Andrew, and I love this 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:14.120 question for Pastor Bryan since he was over the youth 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:15.040 and college division. 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:16.880 What about the youth past times. 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.440 I think that one of the things that we've not 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:26.760 dealt with in this episode is don't forget the bottom 0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.720 of the teen when all of our focus that just 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:33.440 be on top, there's a whole lot that is at stake. 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:37.880 Johnson will only be in place if we don't go 0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:43.080 out and vote. We've got the capacity to flip four 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.360 or five seats in the House, and those are going 0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:49.280 to be critical for the certification of the election, as 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.560 well as most of our public schools no longer have 0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:54.720 civic class There are things people think that the president 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.680 has authority over that doesn't, and we find out all 0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:01.600 of us on social media people are asking what the 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.000 vice president did or did not do because they don't 0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:08.040 understand what are the boundaries of the power of the 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:13.960 vice president. Richard Nieber, theologian said, politicians can only do 0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:17.360 what the people allow them to do, and so I 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.760 think that is part of our responsibility is to hold 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:24.240 them accountable and to really underscore what is our ask. 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:27.439 Power concedes nothing without a demand. If you don't ask 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.480 for anything, you won't receive anything. 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:33.320 Andrew, what about you? You started the Young Elected Officials Network. 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:38.280 You were elected right out of FAMUS as a commissioner 0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:39.160 in Tallahassee. 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.440 Like, what are the ways to stay engaged? You ran 0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:42.600 from office to stay in there. 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.320 Well, one thing following you, Paster Brian, I appreciate you 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.680 mentioning voting the whole ballot. I want to one I 0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.640 want to double down. Please please please vote your entire ballot. 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:53.880 But I also want to say for voters, one of 0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:55.800 the things that's been turning some of the younger voters 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:59.320 out in low information voters off is that they don't 0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:01.640 know how to vote and all the other races on 0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:04.920 the constitutional questions and some of the ordinances that may 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.400 be on the ballot. And you should also be aware 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:11.480 that your ballot does not get thrown out if you 0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:16.240 don't vote in every spot where there's an opportunity for 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:20.080 you to cast a choice one way or another, so 0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:23.840 your ballot doesn't get thrown out if you leave some 0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.439 races blank. However, I encourage you before you vote, get 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:29.720 informed so that you vote the right way to the 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:34.960 question my co host and pastor. I think one thing 0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:37.840 that happens is when the president gets elected, they go 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:43.840 to work, and oftentimes not enough energy and time is 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:47.520 spent on keeping people bought along with you so that 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.560 they can help you deliver on the agenda that you're 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.600 trying to provide every one of us the moment you 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.120 should do it now, but the moment she's elected. Should 0:59:56.160 --> 1:00:01.000 subscribe to the White House's newsletter. They should subscribe. They 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.080 produce it, They produced talking points, they produce the calendar 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:07.640 every day of what's happening with senior administration officials. So 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:11.600 it isn't like that doesn't exist. It does exist. We 1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:14.560 have to be good citizens go get it by simply 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:17.080 putting our name on the list and letting that information 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:19.400 come to us. You know what, guys, I don't think 1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.600 there is a perfect response to this, because you recall 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:26.080 Obama created after his election, initially used OFA as his 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:30.760 organizing tool to keep people engaged through the election. They 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.080 had more money dedicated towards that thing than a little 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:36.680 bit to power the people to be behind the president. 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:40.680 And even that didn't meet the expectations of many Americans 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.840 who said I felt abandoned after the election. Well, guess what. 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.720 This democracy requires that we do something to be part 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.440 of it. It isn't that the apparatus didn't exist. It existed. 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:54.320 How many of us plugged into it stayed ignited around it? 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.520 And the truth is is all of us lose momentum 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:59.160 after election. It sucks a lot out of us. But 1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:01.360 I gotta say, if there was a time for us 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:05.240 to engage beyond just the election cycle, that time is now. 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:08.560 Kamala Harris will not be able to deliver on her 1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:12.200 agenda and a divided government unless we got people in 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:16.320 the streets, people in neighborhoods and communities that are walking canvassing, 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:20.320 keeping their neighbors organized and aware of what's happening so 1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:23.040 that we can then demand the promises that were made 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:25.840 demand on them. But the absence of that, y'all, we've 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:28.920 got little chance of seeing the kinds of results that 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:32.760 I think we've loaded onto her and onto leadership without 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:36.240 us having her back. And it's not just in social media, 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:42.400 but in actual canvassing, door to door information sharing operations 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:44.560 that many of us have engaged in so far in 1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:46.240 this election. We got to keep that going. 1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:51.480 Yeah, Andrew, to your point that you said after the election, 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.480 Kamala Harris has got to go straight to work. And 1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:59.880 that is the disconnect between Donald Trump, who lives from rally. 1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:03.480 He doesn't want to do the work. He wants to 1:02:03.560 --> 1:02:06.600 be at the ass party and so he has spent 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:11.600 four years doing rallies. And so now a week, five 1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:14.120 days before the election, we still don't have a plan. 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:18.120 Concept though, the concept of a plan, because it's not 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:21.600 really about going to work. It's come on, meet me 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:23.640 at you're trying to. 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:26.560 Stay out of jail and speaking of power, conceding nothing 1:02:26.600 --> 1:02:28.720 with our demand pastor what you talk about all the time. 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:31.200 We have another question that I think is important because 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:33.360 on this show we engage in nuance. 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:38.120 Hi native Lampard. My name is Carrington and I'm from Dallas, Texas. 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:42.800 So there's been a lot of debates about Palestinian protesters 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:48.560 coming to Democratic campaign rallies, specifically VP Harris's campaign rallies 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:53.240 and destructing. I am a campaign staffer and I've seen 1:02:53.320 --> 1:02:56.240 this head on and I wanted to know what are 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.400 y'all's thoughts because I'm not too sure if this is 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:03.680 the most effective strategy to tackle this issue. But I'm 1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:06.960 also an advocate for human rights and I do stand 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:11.520 in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Another question is what 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:14.640 can I do as a person who's passionate about politics 1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:16.760 but also passionate about human. 1:03:16.640 --> 1:03:18.080 Rights and social justice. 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:20.880 I would love to hear your thoughts on this, and 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.560 also if you know any jobs that I should apply 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:28.160 for on the hill post election day. 1:03:28.160 --> 1:03:28.960 Please let me know. 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:29.840 Thank you. 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:32.880 As they say closed miles don't care. 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:38.480 Carrington's future is bright because she ain't afraid to. 1:03:40.400 --> 1:03:44.040 To demand power. Concenes nothing without a demand. 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:48.400 I love that she, at a young age, clearly can 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:51.480 hold space for Palestinians and still know that ain't but 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:54.560 one option on this ticket right that I think is 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:58.520 remarkable for someone at her age. And I do think 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:03.000 it's a good question is this strategy effective? And if 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:05.440 like we have been, we've been in solidarity not just 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:08.800 in speech but also in our in our actions co 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:12.560 hosts and pastor with the Palestinian people, I wonder what 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:16.480 is the path forward because we know that what is 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:20.040 happening over there cannot continue. And I cannot imagine if 1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:22.760 I had a relative there I say this all the time, 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:23.600 I would be a fool. 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:25.080 I don't know what ledge y'all would have to talk 1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:25.560 me off of. 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:28.200 Yeah. No, when you look at the fact that both 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:32.560 sides have been doing better tap dancing than Sammy Davis Junior, 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.960 is they have to really bowl right down the center 1:04:36.480 --> 1:04:41.760 aisle at the DNC convention. They had to really make 1:04:41.840 --> 1:04:47.080 their voices heard. Imagine if there was no disruption, how 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:49.959 much more would have gone forward. I think a data 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:52.680 just came out from the New York Times that eighty 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:55.960 two percent of the destruction and the bombs that have 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:59.400 gone off and the chaos American taxpayers have paid for. 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:03.240 And so if we haven't been sounding the alarm, the 1:05:03.520 --> 1:05:06.840 carnage would be that much deeper and greater. One of 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:12.680 the handicaps we had tiffany with President Obama's presidency as 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:16.600 black people were in a crosshair on how do you 1:05:16.760 --> 1:05:20.240 protest pharaoh when he looks like you. So when it 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:22.400 is that we wanted to call him out on certain 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:27.920 issues we were seeing as sellouts, don't say anything. And 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:30.360 I think that we've got to learn from it that 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:34.840 we put policy over personality and realize that even while 1:05:34.920 --> 1:05:37.840 it is that I like you, I love you enough 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:40.040 to challenge you, and I think. 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:42.240 That that's our response to I love that. And I 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:44.920 also think these protesters are going where they feel that 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.080 their voices still may be heard, where they still may 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:50.680 make a breakthrough. For many of us were saying, we 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:53.800 are allied with you because we believe in human rights. 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:57.560 But for them, it's like, forget human rights. I'm talking 1:05:57.560 --> 1:06:01.360 about my cousin and my aunt, my mother's sister, and 1:06:01.520 --> 1:06:06.200 my uncle, and it is so so much more deeply 1:06:06.280 --> 1:06:09.360 personal that I don't feel like any of us have 1:06:09.480 --> 1:06:11.720 the prerogative to direct how they are to vote and 1:06:11.800 --> 1:06:13.560 how they ought to show up in American politics I 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:16.160 think their fight ought to be anywhere they can wage it, 1:06:16.560 --> 1:06:19.880 anywhere they can get in range of somebody being on 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:22.280 the other side with a listening ear. They got to 1:06:22.320 --> 1:06:26.720 make their demands, and whomever we're making them to how 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:30.240 to desensitize themselves to it being an attack on you, 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:33.439 and moreover, an attack on what you now represent, which 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.440 is an institution, is as a system. Kamala Harris, if elected, 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:39.080 will be at the helm of the United States government, 1:06:39.160 --> 1:06:42.320 and that means everything that flows from that table. Everything 1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:45.800 She will bear some responsibility for she and her administration, 1:06:46.320 --> 1:06:49.360 because the Supreme Court is ruled that the executive branch 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:53.040 exists of a leader of one, the President of the 1:06:53.160 --> 1:06:56.600 United States. That's the only place where that is true. 1:06:57.840 --> 1:07:01.280 Between the three branches, the Judiciary US, between the nine justices, 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:04.200 the Congress is split. They split between four to thirty 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:06.240 five in the House and another hundred in the Senate. 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:10.080 The executive is one according to the law interpreted by 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.000 this court, and so you will have to answer for it. 1:07:13.080 --> 1:07:17.280 And she becomes again the helm, the representative voice of 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:19.720 an institution and of course the most powerful nation in 1:07:19.760 --> 1:07:20.080 the world. 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:24.560 To Tiffany, to go back to political violence, Uh. And 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.320 I want to go back two segments on what we 1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:31.520 raised about Madison Square Garden. We cannot give a pass 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:35.760 to Ruty Julie who got to the mic uh and 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:40.880 vilified two year olds. Uh. They said two year olds 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:43.840 can't come in the country because two year olds are 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:47.240 trained assassin when they just learning to tie the issues. 1:07:47.840 --> 1:07:47.960 Uh. 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:51.920 And so I think in the in the backlash of 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:55.800 that kind of vitrol, that you've got to be disruptive. 1:07:56.440 --> 1:07:59.800 But my only issue that I want to stay with them, 1:07:59.840 --> 1:08:03.040 my dear sister from Texas, is that I think is 1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:06.400 the imbalance if you're only doing those disruptions at the 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:10.160 Democratic Party but not doing any of that at the 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:12.960 Republican rallies. I think they're just got to be fair. 1:08:13.400 --> 1:08:19.320 It's got to be balanced because their language is very threatening. 1:08:19.800 --> 1:08:21.680 That's to Andrew's point, though they know where they can 1:08:21.760 --> 1:08:22.400 go if they. 1:08:22.400 --> 1:08:22.680 Go to. 1:08:24.479 --> 1:08:26.719 Earlier their laws are literally at. 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:30.000 State going to those rallies, the violence then people saying 1:08:30.080 --> 1:08:32.080 that Islam is not a relationship. 1:08:34.720 --> 1:08:39.320 That said, yeah, well, right go ahead. 1:08:39.960 --> 1:08:40.000 No. 1:08:40.200 --> 1:08:41.880 I just wanted to respond really quickly because she was 1:08:41.880 --> 1:08:43.760 asking if it was effective, and I just want to say, Andrew, 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:46.880 I really appreciate your point about saying like that's their cousin, 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:49.240 that's somebody they know. And I gotta say, if a 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:54.559 government was funding the killing of my people who look 1:08:54.760 --> 1:08:57.640 like me, who I'm related to, who I can touch to, 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:00.360 I email, who I taxis are real life people looking 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:05.880 at soon crossing over fifty thousand people, mostly women and children, 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.760 and they're being silenced here in America. And if you 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.800 look at Western media, it's a very specific narrative that 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:16.040 is not always accurately portraying what is happening over there. 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:20.599 Brown University right here in America, just suspended it's chapter 1:09:20.760 --> 1:09:25.400 of Students for Justice for Palestine. The students are saying 1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:29.679 it is a politically motivated act on behalf of the university. 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:33.400 We've seen across college campuses everywhere. So when you're being silenced, 1:09:33.439 --> 1:09:37.320 you deserve to be heard. So if that is where 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:39.719 they can be heard, I think Vice President Harris handled 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:43.200 it very well this week when she was disrupted and 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:46.479 she said, hey, hey guys, I hear you and address them. 1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:48.960 I like her handling it that way. It's not a 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:52.320 good idea to eject people or reject what they're feeling, 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:55.360 or deny their experience, and she has this is a 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.760 real issue, and we just got to be honest about this. 1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:03.960 She has a real issue with the Arab community around Gaza, 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:07.320 and it seems like a small solution to call for 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:11.439 an immediate, permanent ceasefire. And so I think as much 1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:14.320 as they can be heard, we support that for sure. 1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:16.040 And I also just want to point out that this 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:20.040 week Donald Trump insulted Michelle Obama for the first time. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:23.400 It's like he's known better before, but now he's come 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:25.680 out and called her nasty, really because she got the 1:10:25.720 --> 1:10:28.320 better of him and he's a child, but he insulted 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:30.599 her this week. So I think this level of vitriol 1:10:30.680 --> 1:10:33.800 that's coming if they the saying about if we don't 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:37.960 say anything for Palestinians when they come for us, we 1:10:38.200 --> 1:10:40.960 have to speak up. They have to become we. We 1:10:41.200 --> 1:10:43.800 have to become us when you harm somebody, we stand 1:10:43.840 --> 1:10:45.360 on the side of goodness and righteousness. 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:52.240 So is clear that there's always another yeah, because because 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:56.719 their grievance, that is their politics. Now, grievance is their politics. 1:10:56.800 --> 1:10:59.439 We're not hearing plans. Nobody's talking about going and voting 1:10:59.439 --> 1:11:01.479 for him because of his position on X Y and 1:11:01.600 --> 1:11:04.679 Z and and such and such. It's it's the fact 1:11:04.720 --> 1:11:08.760 that their politics is now the politics of complaint, and 1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:13.360 that there's always another or another that's responsible for whatever 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:16.240 injury that you happen to be feeling. And for a 1:11:16.280 --> 1:11:19.360 party that used to talk about bootstraps and and and 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:22.040 strength and so, I mean, I've never seen a weaker 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:25.800 version of themselves that I have in these last several 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:30.439 years of politics. It is very, very, very weak, and 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:33.640 I think unrepresentative of what they tout about who they are. 1:11:34.520 --> 1:11:37.320 Yeah, well we are. At the end of our show, 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:42.800 we always have cause. Oh no, he gonna go first. 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:44.720 So we have calls to action at the end of 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:48.880 every episode, Pastor Jamal Harrison Bryan, So what do you 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:49.400 have for us? 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:50.760 What's our call to action this week? 1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:54.519 Our call to action is every relative you have, I 1:11:54.600 --> 1:11:56.680 need you to blow up the phone. I want you 1:11:56.760 --> 1:12:01.640 to send all of them to rides to vote ridesdovote 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:04.960 dot com. We've got free uber rides for everybody to 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:07.519 get to your polling station. I don't want you to 1:12:07.560 --> 1:12:10.280 have any excuse. You don't have to hitchhike, you ain't 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:12.599 got to catch two buses. You can get an uber 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:14.800 to the polls. I need you to go tell it 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:16.519 on the mountain or over the hills and everywhere. And 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:19.360 as we said, don't just vote at the top of 1:12:19.439 --> 1:12:23.600 the ticket, vote all the way down and read the 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:26.680 pieces of legislation that are on the ballot for your 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:30.040 state and for your region. Many of them about museums 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:35.400 and about schools and about funding different areas. So if 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:38.400 you really want to be involved, educate yourself. Angela and 1:12:38.439 --> 1:12:42.120 I are Alumness of the NAACP. Mega Evers gave us 1:12:42.360 --> 1:12:46.120 the blueprint and said, voter education, voter registration, get out 1:12:46.160 --> 1:12:48.240 the vote. I don't want you to just go out 1:12:48.320 --> 1:12:50.479 and vote. I want you to know what you're voting 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:54.280 for and what it's about. The people are clear that 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:56.960 our people are dying from a lack of knowledge, So 1:12:57.120 --> 1:12:58.719 find out before you go to the polls. 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:00.599 Love it very good. 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:03.760 I have two One, you know, since we got the 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.280 Passion House, I want to shout out everybody who goes 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:07.880 to Bible study on Wednesdays. 1:13:07.960 --> 1:13:10.479 That was that's when our church used to do Bible study. 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:13.559 And since we talked about Two Corinthians earlier, I want 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:16.680 to talk about two Timothy one and seven, where it 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:19.280 says that God hasn't given us a spirit of fear, 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:20.440 but of power. 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:22.120 Of love, and of a sound mind. 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:23.920 So if you go to a rally and you see 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:28.080 a whole lot of fear, talk, yes, okay, So now 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:30.680 I just want to go over here to shout out 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:33.320 Black voters matter. We're gonna be with them a few 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:37.000 more times before election Day. We have three stay with 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:40.680 Me three live shows coming up. We will be in 1:13:40.800 --> 1:13:45.600 Tallahassee this Friday for Andrew's homecoming at Florida A and 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:46.480 M University. 1:13:53.040 --> 1:13:56.160 Thought I thought she was like, no, you list a 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:58.639 finger your froze. 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:01.400 I can't see that's a schizophrenic cat. 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:06.000 Anyway, Lord, yeah, y'all make sure you turn into that. 1:14:06.080 --> 1:14:07.800 We won't say the name of that episode because the 1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:10.840 pastor is here. But also we are going to be 1:14:10.880 --> 1:14:15.200 in Philadelphia on Monday and we will be at Howard 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:18.880 University on Tuesday with our good brother Lenar. We are 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:22.800 going to do a joint breakfast club Native lampod live 1:14:22.960 --> 1:14:27.280 Election Day, hopefully history making election day where the voter 1:14:27.400 --> 1:14:29.519 turnout is so great they can't even stop you with 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.360 a provisional ballot not counted. So yes, go out and 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:33.920 vote say the website for us one more. 1:14:33.840 --> 1:14:37.280 Time, rides to vote dot com as that you'll please 1:14:37.400 --> 1:14:40.880 go spread it everywhere, and I'll call to action. I 1:14:40.960 --> 1:14:43.519 want to, and I want to. I got to. I 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:50.599 gotta do it. I got to invite Tiffany and those 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.240 of you who don't go to church. I cannot. I 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:56.760 cannot go out without inviting Tiffany come to church. And 1:14:56.840 --> 1:15:01.680 those of you who don't go to church. I want 1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:03.599 you to come. And those of you don't feel comfortable 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:06.320 come to church. Stream us go to New. 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:08.920 Clear. 1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:11.400 What is the next episode dropped tomorrow? 1:15:11.800 --> 1:15:12.200 Tomorrow? 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:14.439 Next episode drops same day as he gonna be on 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:15.639 two podcasts tomorrow. 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:22.840 All right for today today because Andrew and Tim, you 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:27.880 guys tip he said, y'all doing one life from church. 1:15:27.920 --> 1:15:28.439 I love that. 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:33.160 Okay, well, my call to action is not political. I 1:15:33.800 --> 1:15:35.960 so you all just heard Angela go over our schedule. 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:37.920 She'd been messing up my travel all the time. Okay, 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:41.759 so I'm getting off my flights. Where were we Atlanta? 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.760 So pray where is this going? I'm nervous my call 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:47.240 to action? 1:15:47.560 --> 1:15:49.200 I think I told you what happened is if I 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:52.400 want the viewers to know. So anyway, Pastor Bryant. I'm 1:15:52.439 --> 1:15:55.400 getting off the plane and I need to rearrange my 1:15:55.479 --> 1:15:58.760 whole travel okay, And so I'm like, I don't have time. 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:02.680 Let me just google MX Travel and I uh just 1:16:02.760 --> 1:16:05.240 hit call AMEX Travel and I'm on the phone and honey, 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:07.200 I didn't gave these people to key to my whole life. 1:16:07.240 --> 1:16:09.160 They're like, we need to verify your account number, we 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:11.560 need to verify your security number. Do y'all know I 1:16:11.720 --> 1:16:15.280 was not talking to MX Travel. Somebody then bought the website, 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:19.000 like it's a weird website and it's slightly you gotta 1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:21.560 watch it. And I gave these people everything, and the 1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:25.200 thing that made me Spidey gave my spidy senses like five. 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:26.800 They had me on hold for like five minutes, and 1:16:26.840 --> 1:16:28.960 I'm like, AMEX wouldn't have me on hold that long, 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:31.559 not with these big ass balances. I carried, somebody better 1:16:31.640 --> 1:16:35.280 get on this call. And ten seconds and I hung 1:16:35.400 --> 1:16:37.160 up and I had to call AMEX and tell them. 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:40.759 So my call to action is these scammers are getting 1:16:40.880 --> 1:16:44.160 good and better and tighter. They didn't get anything for me, 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.360 and AMEX was able to, you know, just say, oh yeah, 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.599 they shut it down. But if I heard this story, 1:16:50.640 --> 1:16:52.160 I would have thought, Oh, that wouldn't happen to me. 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:54.920 And I'm telling y'all, it happened to me. They almost 1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:58.000 got me, but they didn't. So just be careful on 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:04.639 but God, So be careful on what information you give 1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:07.880 and how you're verify that you're talking to the correct person. 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:11.759 That's my CTA, my testimony, my thankfulness in my CTA. 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:18.639 My caught action is a repeat but directly specifically targeting 1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:22.240 Florida voters. If you are a Florida voter, a Democrat 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:25.360 in Florida, and you haven't voted yet, please do so asap. 1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:31.120 Republicans are outpacing Democrats quite significantly in early vote and 1:17:32.280 --> 1:17:34.760 absentee vote. That has not always been the case. In 1:17:34.800 --> 1:17:38.400 twenty eighteen, Democrats outpaced Republicans by that matrix. And so 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:41.200 if you're in the state of Florida, there are serious 1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:46.000 issues questions on the ballot, to include the legalization of marijuana, 1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:51.719 to include the modification of ROE in the state's constitution, 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:55.240 protecting a woman's right to make her own reproductive health decisions, 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:58.920 and a number of local issues that are too numerous 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:02.799 to name, but I know Republicans have done an incredible 1:18:02.880 --> 1:18:07.840 job at beating the spirit out of us, of sitting 1:18:07.920 --> 1:18:12.920 on our backs and constricting our breathing in every single way, 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:16.680 trying to force us out of the system. But we 1:18:16.800 --> 1:18:19.280 make that job easier when we choose not to participate. 1:18:19.439 --> 1:18:22.880 So you're in Florida, it really is for everywhere. But 1:18:23.000 --> 1:18:26.400 I want to admonish my state, particularly to get out 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:30.479 and vote because five days before the final day of 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:34.080 election day, we ain't looking so great. So let's get 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:36.120 those numbers up. That's it. 1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:38.960 Well, this is episode forty nine. 1:18:39.160 --> 1:18:42.360 Like we said, we got five days, we got five 1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:44.880 on it till election day. Make sure you take five 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:48.960 people with you and only vote one time five people. 1:18:49.200 --> 1:18:52.200 Please make sure you take five people with you are 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:52.680 more than that. 1:18:53.360 --> 1:18:55.200 Before we end the show, I want to remind everyone 1:18:55.280 --> 1:18:58.080 to leave us a review and subscribe to Native Lampard. 1:18:58.120 --> 1:19:01.840 We're available on all platforms and YouTube. 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