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Speaker 1: Native Lamppod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: It is episode forty nine of a Native Lamppod.

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Speaker 3: I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Angela Rye was my co host Andrew Gillam and Timmy Cross.

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Speaker 3: Hi, y'all doing today? I'm real good. Let me just

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Speaker 3: tell you what I've been doing this morning. Macy.

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Speaker 4: Well, the people are listening can't see either, So what

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Speaker 4: is it?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's true the people listening, Casey. But well for

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Speaker 1: the people watching video, they can't. This says Black Voters Matter.

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Speaker 1: I was out hitting the block with Black Voters Matter

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Speaker 1: this morning. Canvason knocking on doors still fulfilling the birthday

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Speaker 1: dreams from a few days ago. I'm so glad I

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Speaker 1: got to knock doors with y'all.

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Speaker 5: You know nothing, No, I just mean the people that

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Speaker 5: you get to talk to interact with.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it was very good. It was good

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Speaker 1: in part because it's always good to see folks. We

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Speaker 1: met a woman named Miss Booker who was standing out

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Speaker 1: the church house. She says she got an organic garden

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Speaker 1: in the back. She said, let Georgia State. Know does

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Speaker 1: she growing stuff in the back in case they want

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Speaker 1: us cancer. She also gave Black Voters Matter a cash

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Speaker 1: donational envelope.

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Speaker 3: She said she was turning out votes. It was beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Uh and so, and they said, just.

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Speaker 1: So we're super clear in case the Trump folks want

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Speaker 1: to come back and challenge their C three status.

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Speaker 3: She said that.

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Speaker 1: She they said they're gonna donate it to the C

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Speaker 1: three satur things because that nobody else can take care.

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Speaker 3: So see, it was a beautiful morning. I'm listening.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna explain to the audience why that

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Speaker 4: matters and what C three means and all that that's

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Speaker 4: definitely not common knowledge.

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Speaker 1: But I don't need to in Okay, Well it's just

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Speaker 1: a nonprofit. Yeah, it's a nonprofit. Look up a five

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Speaker 1: oh one C three online and we could jump into

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Speaker 1: our rundown today. All right, So we got a lot

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Speaker 1: going on, you guys. I cannot believe when this episode

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Speaker 1: airs there will be five days left until election day.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about political violence, t if. I know

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Speaker 1: that's you're your topic, and it's something that's near and

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Speaker 1: dear to your heart.

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Speaker 4: I think it's near and dear to all of our hearts.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, I feel like everybody's focused on election day,

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Speaker 4: and I really think it's the wrong thing. I think

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Speaker 4: we got to focus on what happens after election.

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Speaker 5: Day, in addition, in addition.

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Speaker 3: To on who commute.

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Speaker 1: It's a good transition. He had Jesus on the main line.

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Speaker 1: We got our first in studio yesterday. Ever, we never

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Speaker 1: do this, but for such a time as this, he

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Speaker 1: is he is. He's maybe we gonna keep him long enough,

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Speaker 1: he'll stay with us.

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Speaker 3: We might keep him as a close.

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Speaker 1: Reverend Jamal Bryant is our good brother and friend. He

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Speaker 1: has been tearing it up on his own podcast. He's

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Speaker 1: been tearing it up in New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.

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Speaker 3: He got engaged.

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Speaker 1: He is hitting the streets for the for the campaign,

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Speaker 1: letting people know what it is. He he heard a

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Speaker 1: pastor call the church the Antichrist. He has something to

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Speaker 1: say about that. He had Kamala Harris in the pulpit

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Speaker 1: the other day. She had on a she had on

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Speaker 1: a dress address she always got a pass. She said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the House of the Lord. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put my skirt on the day and she tore

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Speaker 1: it down to packed the house.

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Speaker 6: Son wore a lap scarf, she had a prayer claw.

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Speaker 6: Yes they missed. The press missed that.

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Speaker 3: Listen if she got a prayer clock.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, aheads anymore. But when he said that, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: that remind me of let's.

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Speaker 1: Talk about why that is on the podcast already. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, well you started it.

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Speaker 5: You can only imagine this story should be hearing Lord Lord.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think is important for us

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Speaker 1: to talk about tangential to political violence is why they.

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Speaker 3: Burning up the ballot boxes, y'all.

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Speaker 1: People dropping off their balance and they setting their boxes

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Speaker 1: on fire and through some in the middle of the street.

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Speaker 3: Andrew were gonna talk about that because you know that

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Speaker 3: was in your state. What you got?

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Speaker 5: That's it. I'm ready to jump in.

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Speaker 1: So, y'all, this is such an exciting show. We have

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Speaker 1: been challenged by the podcast Godfather who is Chris Morrow

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Speaker 1: on our network often like why don't y'all have guests? Well, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it is time we needed to bring a guest in

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Speaker 1: with the church because there's so much happening. We had

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Speaker 1: Erica Campbell join us last week in Atlanta for our

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Speaker 1: Spellhouse homecoming show, and she had this to say when

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Speaker 1: we started talking about the Black church.

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Speaker 7: I understand at the core of what abortion is people

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Speaker 7: calling it murder. Okay, I get that, But if Jesus

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Speaker 7: was here, what would he say to a woman who

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Speaker 7: had to choose. He wouldn't tell her what to choose.

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Speaker 7: The Bible says our place before you life and death,

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Speaker 7: So it is your choice. So if God lets me choose,

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Speaker 7: how dare a government tell me what I can do

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Speaker 7: with my body if I'm doing the wrong thing. So

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Speaker 7: some people do choose to do the wrong thing, they'll

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Speaker 7: stand before God, not their government. And I think that

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Speaker 7: it is our job to remember that the government is

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Speaker 7: not my pastor. And if you got faith, no matter

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Speaker 7: what the economic strategy is, God still supplies all my

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Speaker 7: needs according to His which is in glory. Some are

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Speaker 7: already operating on a different level. So I don't feel

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Speaker 7: like even excluding somebody from the LGBTQ community if we

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Speaker 7: just honest about it. And I know I'm gonna get

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Speaker 7: in trouble for this. They already go to our churches,

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Speaker 7: they already sing, They're already here so what is it

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Speaker 7: that you're really talking about?

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Speaker 1: And then, just as a contrast, there is a man

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Speaker 1: who is the son of Jimmy Swaggert. If y'all don't

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Speaker 1: know about Jimmy Swaggert, I highly encourage the listening audience

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Speaker 1: to look him up. But Donnie Swagger had this to

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Speaker 1: say about the black church and black pastors everywhere, including

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Speaker 1: the one we're about to introduce, had some to say

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Speaker 8: But today, where are the pastors? Where are the preachers

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Speaker 8: shunning out behind the sacred desk and proclaiming, Hey, listen, folks,

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Speaker 8: we can't continue the way that we're going.

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Speaker 6: Our nation cannot.

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Speaker 9: Endure four more years of the Party of Molawk.

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Speaker 6: Can't do it.

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Speaker 9: I can't support a party that murders babies. I can't

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Speaker 9: support a party that believes in men marrying men and

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Speaker 9: women marrying women. I can't support a party that believes

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Speaker 9: in uti lady, the little girls because their minds are

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Speaker 9: confused over their gender. I can't support a party that

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Speaker 9: doesn't believe.

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Speaker 5: In the Word of God. Can't do it, will.

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Speaker 10: Not do it.

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Speaker 6: I refuse.

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Speaker 1: So with that, I think this is the perfect time

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Speaker 1: to introduce our guests. He's a fiery preacher, brilliant man.

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Speaker 1: I've met him when I was in high school. Jamal

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Speaker 1: Bryant was the Youth and College division director for the NAACP.

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Speaker 1: To watch your rise, Pastor has been amazing. You have

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Speaker 1: always been solid. I haven't known you to be anything

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Speaker 1: other than a truth teller. So we are so grateful

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Speaker 1: that you would join us here today.

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Speaker 6: I'm updating my Wikipedia. I haven't made it.

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Speaker 5: I'm on the publicast, and congratulations on yours.

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Speaker 6: By the way, thank you killing it. Just as a footnote,

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Speaker 6: Andrew knew my wife, my fiance before I did. Yes,

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Speaker 6: he wrote her a letter of recommendation, so I'm back

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Speaker 6: in the detail.

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Speaker 3: And did you say in the recommendation letter?

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Speaker 5: Quiet? But she is a brilliant, powerful, how willful preacher

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Speaker 5: and her own right that sister can slang the word Bishop.

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Speaker 5: You made a great choice.

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Speaker 6: I'm grateful. Thank you for the endorsement.

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Speaker 3: I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to have this conversation one. I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to be honest with you. The amount of tension

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Speaker 1: in the Black church right now around who to vote for,

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Speaker 1: around reproductive justice or around gay marriage, around racial justice,

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Speaker 1: and whether or not we should even lean in or

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Speaker 1: just be people of faith has been astounding to me.

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Speaker 1: These are some of the things that I struggle with

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Speaker 1: as a young Christian going to a church of God

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Speaker 1: in christ Church and really trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: my lane was because my dad is an activist, right,

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Speaker 1: so like where like what is God calling us to do?

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Speaker 1: When it comes down to faith with our works is dead.

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Speaker 1: We have the right to be here. We ain't asked

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Speaker 1: to come, but we here now. So what does it

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Speaker 1: look like to engage in What is the row of

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Speaker 6: That I think we're looking at the postcolonial slave church

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Speaker 6: is an activists like all of us to be mindful

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Speaker 6: that the Black church in mass never supported doctor King.

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Speaker 6: It's split the Baptis Convention. They have never been progressive,

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Speaker 6: a small remnant to do it. One thing is that

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Speaker 6: a lot of people are missing is that abortion is

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Speaker 6: not on the ballot. Yeah in some states, yes, on

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Speaker 6: a national thing, but I don't know how the preacher

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Speaker 6: who you just listened to said he can't be in

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Speaker 6: a party that supports a woman choosing, But he's in

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Speaker 6: a party that supports banning books. He's a part of

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Speaker 6: a party that schools will be fined if they teach

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Speaker 6: black history. He is in a party that does not

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Speaker 6: want to offer affordable health care. So when you talk

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Speaker 6: about pro life, does it stop at the wound? Because

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Speaker 6: this same party champions the death penalty. This same party

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to give money to head start programs. So

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Speaker 6: you can't pick and choose what is the ethics and

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Speaker 6: the morality. And so I think that the Black church

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Speaker 6: prophetically that there is an era and uh, their candidate

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Speaker 6: does not reflect the morals that they are horsting.

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Speaker 5: I often wonder, pastor, when you when you are in community,

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Speaker 5: I mean you're you looked at, you know, within the

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Speaker 5: Christian faith, and I assume other faiths as a also

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Speaker 5: masterful handler of the word. You certainly uh are someone

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Speaker 5: who has inspired me and I know many many many

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Speaker 5: others along their walk. I wonder, does this conversation around

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Speaker 5: the issues that we that that uh, that inteligious enumerated,

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Speaker 5: whether it be l G B, t Q rights, women's

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Speaker 5: right to decide the future for her own body. Are

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Speaker 5: they new conversations within the confines of the Black Church?

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Speaker 5: Is it? Are we revisiting old conversations or is it

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Speaker 5: a couple of sermons on it, and and that's it.

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Speaker 5: Have we deepened into a conversation reopened to can that's

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Speaker 5: with this? And if so why At the same time,

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Speaker 5: Kamala's the cannedy for President of the United States.

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Speaker 4: Me ask you thank you for that. When you said

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Speaker 3: Listen, you guys know I have a d D. He

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Speaker 6: Come listen, come home. This is the largest demographic that

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Speaker 4: On the podcast talk about my eighties.

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Speaker 6: He threw the whole palm tree. He through the.

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Speaker 4: Anyway anyway back to what the bastor.

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Speaker 6: Was saying, Yes, as I was saying, tefy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad people gonna see this and know now

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Speaker 6: Crazy and yes, so a lot of the preachers are

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Speaker 6: last election cycle, nobody thought that Trump was more intelligent

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Speaker 1: What I really want to I really want to ask

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna go too far down.

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Speaker 3: Like I used to. They sounded like us Jesse do planets?

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Speaker 6: All of them sounded like got black pread teams, Yes,

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Speaker 6: So your answer, sir, the answer is, let's not forget

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Speaker 3: Do you talk to them?

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Speaker 6: Oh, they won't talk to me, so let me let

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Speaker 5: Economics, right, economics.

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Speaker 6: But the reason why they're trying to safeguard it, and

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Speaker 4: What's your prediction? Because I think the point that you

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Speaker 1: By as soon as said this, all these white women

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Speaker 4: To get me.

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Speaker 6: We got you.

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Speaker 4: As Let me just say, I got salt and Peppa.

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Speaker 4: I ain't scared.

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Speaker 4: These girls stay ready. Anyhow, I think that white women

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Speaker 4: will go and do the right thing this election because

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Speaker 4: it's an issue that directly impacts them. You're right, proportionally

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Speaker 4: white women have more abortions than black women. But I

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Speaker 4: want to hear from you based on what you see,

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Speaker 4: based on conversations with your congregation in the community, especially

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Speaker 4: being based in Atlanta. What's your prediction for the election?

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Speaker 6: I think number one. I think the fifth we're going

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Speaker 6: to have a slumber party. I don't think that we're

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Speaker 6: going to know the answer that night. I don't think

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Speaker 6: that we'll know till midday on the sixth. I am

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Speaker 6: concerned for places like Georgia that they won't certify the election.

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Speaker 6: President Trump gave a tip of his hat the other

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Speaker 6: day in New York and said that they got a surprise,

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Speaker 6: he and Speaker Johnson, and so I think that it's

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Speaker 6: going to be a lot of upheaval. I think that

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Speaker 6: the only way that we will have peace is if

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Speaker 6: Vice President wins by landslide. If it is close, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be terrible. I don't know if you all

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Speaker 6: saw just recently President Trump posted that pennsylvaniaish.

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Speaker 5: China because he's losing.

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Speaker 6: For him to say that now week out is they

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Speaker 6: are already trying to put a seed plot in the ground.

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Speaker 6: So I'm praying that it's going to be not an

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Speaker 6: October surprise, but a November surprise.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: And we know that Republicans just asked the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: to block to block the sorry to block the counting

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania provisional ballots, So they're setting it up even

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Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court level. Supreme Court cited with Governor

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Speaker 1: Younkin in Virginia on throwing out votes that they challenged

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Speaker 1: these folks citizenship on and Tiff I think to this

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Speaker 1: point that gets right to the heart of the political

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Speaker 1: violence that you've been raising on every single I think we.

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Speaker 4: Have a viewer question that takes us right to that point.

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Speaker 4: I want to be sure to get them in. So

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Speaker 4: let's roll that question and we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, name of Layam Pond. This is Thomas and

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Speaker 10: I come to you from the Dayton and Springfield, Ohio area.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to Angela and Wilberforce.

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Speaker 10: I live not too far from here, so thank you

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Speaker 10: for your efforts there, and I worked in Springfield, so

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Speaker 10: I have seen the cultural implications that have happened in

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Speaker 10: Springfield and obviously nationwide with the political discourse and cultural

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Speaker 10: discourse and everything that's going on, and then with the

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Speaker 10: obviously the Madison Square Garden comments and everything that's happened

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Speaker 10: in the past eight years nine years with Donald Trump

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Speaker 10: being the Republican candidate. When Kamala Harris gets elected, and

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Speaker 10: that's a hope of mine and I'm sure of everybody

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Speaker 10: there and anybody who listens to this podcast, once she

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Speaker 10: gets elected, do you think that she will be enough

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Speaker 10: to heal everything that's happened over the past couple of

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Speaker 10: election cycles. Thanks for taking my question. Have good day. Hmm.

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Speaker 4: He looked like he in a truck. If he a

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Speaker 4: truck driver, I want to him out because my brother

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Speaker 4: is a truck driver. As I said, so shout out

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Speaker 4: to truck drivers. Just so our listeners and viewers. No,

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Speaker 4: Angela is on the board of Wilberforest. That's why he

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Speaker 4: was saying thank you to Angela for are.

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Speaker 6: You really my grandparents met it one.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that. Yes, I'm on the board.

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Speaker 1: It is long even on this my highest honor. I've

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Speaker 1: been on the board for six years.

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Speaker 3: Six year.

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Speaker 4: Shout out.

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Speaker 6: I teach you paint seminary you do yes?

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Speaker 5: The response guest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think yeah. The number one I think that

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Speaker 6: I don't want us to put an unfair weight on

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Speaker 6: Vice President uh for the responsibility that was part of

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Speaker 6: the onus that was shelved on to President Obama that

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Speaker 6: he was given the responsibility to heal the racial divide

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Speaker 6: in eight years to override three hundred and Trump is

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Speaker 6: evidenced that it didn't work. So I think that she

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Speaker 6: is better positioned to heal the country than President Trump will,

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Speaker 6: but I think that all hands have to be on deck.

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Speaker 6: I was in South Africa as a student doing study

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Speaker 6: abroad when President Mandela was elected, and they had something

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Speaker 6: all over South Africa called the Truth and Reconciliation where

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Speaker 6: people were able to give hearings of their experience and

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Speaker 6: to discuss how they had been impacted. Because President Mandela

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Speaker 6: was of the mind you really can't govern in post

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Speaker 6: apartheid culture when you still have the tremors of the

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Speaker 6: impact of that trauma. And so until America really faces

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Speaker 6: it's not going to happen. But the second level, James Cone,

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Speaker 6: Great to Liberation theologian said, the greatest thing in America

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Speaker 6: after racism is sexist And so now we've got two

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Speaker 6: different wounds that we've got to handle. And what I

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Speaker 6: meant to speak to Tiffany, the reason why it is

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Speaker 6: so difficult for the Black church to get behind Kamala

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Speaker 6: is because we have apostolic misogyny. A lot of Black

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Speaker 6: churches still don't let women preach, still don't let women mam,

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Speaker 6: and so it is gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 4: And seeing that data, but in your experience, you found

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Speaker 4: it difficult for the Black church to back Vice Resident Harris.

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Speaker 6: Well, they wouldn't be polled. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: And a lot of Apostolic and Pentecosta reformations. In twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four. Women still can't pastor, that's right. They still

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Speaker 6: can't be ordained the elders in the church. And so

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Speaker 6: now this will uproot their theology that you can't be

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Speaker 6: a pastor, but you can't be a president.

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Speaker 3: Women are not supposed to be the head.

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Speaker 6: There we are.

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Speaker 1: And now there's a thing where I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've heard this one. They say, Well, making her ahead

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Speaker 1: of the country doesn't mean that she's the head of

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Speaker 1: her household.

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Speaker 6: A whole lot of white women who are head of

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Speaker 6: a house.

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Speaker 5: Cognitive sort of dissidence I think between the membership and

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Speaker 5: its leadership when it comes to the Black Church, because

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Speaker 5: there are things that I've heard preached about that I

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Speaker 5: would never follow. It has not necessarily turned me away

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Speaker 5: from the Black Church, as it is largely because the

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Speaker 5: Black Church is still a place regardless of what levels

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Speaker 5: you reach in society, how wealthy you are, how far

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Speaker 5: you have to drive to get to it, that prioritizes

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Speaker 5: the issues that confront us By virtue of our race.

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Speaker 5: It's a place where our humanity is still seen first,

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Speaker 5: and whether you're wealthy or not so wealthy, there's still

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Speaker 5: some shared experience there which doesn't necessarily have and for

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Speaker 5: a lot of other folks in a lot of different faiths.

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Speaker 5: But but I think the memberships of the church. I

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Speaker 5: agree with you. Jeff, you're you're you know you're where

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Speaker 5: you were headed, which was that I think we're gonna

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Speaker 5: overwhelmingly be behind Kamala Harris. But Pastor, you're completely right.

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Speaker 5: I got offended in one place where they made my wife,

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Speaker 5: who was introducing me, speak from a podium on the floor,

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Speaker 5: whereas I was behind the microphone. And then when I

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Speaker 5: put it together, no woman got behind the microphone. All

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Speaker 5: of them spoke from the floor, and that wasn't the

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Speaker 5: same situation for men.

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 5: This is a frustration of mine. I'm curious if it

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Speaker 5: plagues any of y'all. But I was having a conversation

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Speaker 5: yesterday with a conservative for one of our UH support

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Speaker 5: staff here for Native Land podcast that he runs, and

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Speaker 5: the conservative a number of times evoked, well, black babies

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Speaker 5: this or the black community in Chicago and Philadelphia. No, no,

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Speaker 5: da and I would say, you know, the only time

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Speaker 5: I hear y'all is concerned about black folks is in

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Speaker 5: juxtaposition to how bad it is that we have it

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Speaker 5: here in America. But I never hear you doing anything

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Speaker 5: about it. You don't rise up with me at a march,

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Speaker 5: You don't rise up with us on the conditions of

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Speaker 5: economic parody, so on and so forth. Why is it

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Speaker 5: that you seem to only name check us when it's

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Speaker 5: in relationship to something negative that's going on as some

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Speaker 5: provocation for me to now vote for Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 5: don't know how you handle these debates. I didn't end

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Speaker 5: up ultimately going there because I didn't want to again

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Speaker 5: deepen into sort of the racial divide thing. But it's

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Speaker 5: a total annoyance to me that that's the only time

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Speaker 5: I seem to hear this debate. Donald Trump, his running mate,

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Speaker 5: their surrogates, all of us, all of them seem to

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Speaker 5: name check black folks, but only yes in comparison and

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Speaker 5: to further suggests how bad things are for us, and

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Speaker 5: then there's a complete abandonment of us.

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Speaker 6: It's selective marketing because they don't talk about Ayowa and

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Speaker 6: the opioid addiction. They don't talk about North Dakota in

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Speaker 6: fentanyl that they're not dealing with the level of white

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Speaker 6: teens in suburban centers who are committing suicide. Uh. And

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Speaker 6: so I think that we've got to enlarge the conversation. Uh.

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Speaker 6: That is not even just a black problem or white problem,

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Speaker 6: but it is reflective of an American problem.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And Andrew, you best poised than any of us, can

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Speaker 6: really sound that alarm about what it is that it means.

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Speaker 6: You're one of the most consequential figures for our generation

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Speaker 6: in one of the most critical regions, and your voice

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Speaker 6: is so necessary from that depth of experience that you

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Speaker 6: have in wisdom to really speak it and to take

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Speaker 6: it on. It ain't just in Duval, but is happening

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Speaker 6: is happening all the loaf Uh. And you've got to

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Speaker 6: highlight and so I would encourage you to go on

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Speaker 6: those spaces because they not let me an angel.

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Speaker 4: I'm want to make this point about fentanyl because that

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Speaker 4: is something that the right actually does bring up consistently

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Speaker 4: around fentanyl, and they try to link it with the

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Speaker 4: immigration status. And so I just want to offer some

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Speaker 4: information there. The largest known group of fentanyl smugglers is

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Speaker 4: actually not made of immigrant immigrants acrossing the border. They

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Speaker 4: are Americans coming through legal ports of entry. So more

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Speaker 4: than eighty percent of the people's sentence for fentanyl trafficking

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Speaker 4: at the southern border are US citizens. And that's according

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Speaker 4: to US all day. Just so we're clear. Someday, Well,

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Speaker 4: I want to well, I have a question for you guys,

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Speaker 4: because I want to stick with this theme of political violence.

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Speaker 4: I you know, is my assertion. I think we're focused

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Speaker 4: on the wrong thing, like election Day is going to happen.

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Speaker 4: I Angela knows. I tell her all the time, she's

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Speaker 4: gonna win. She's gonna win. She's gonna win. But to

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Speaker 4: the viewer's question, in terms of what happens next, I

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Speaker 4: do I am bracing myself for violence. I think y

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Speaker 4: will come in the courts. I think violence will come

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Speaker 4: in media. I think violence will come at the ballot

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Speaker 4: box as we've seen, and I think violence will as

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Speaker 4: certainly come in the street. Angela, you and I run

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Speaker 4: the phone yesterday we were talking about this. I was

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Speaker 4: talking to my sister Latasha, who did an Instagram posting

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Speaker 4: this Latasha Brown, who runs Black Voters Matter, And you

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Speaker 4: guys are saying I don't know, it feels different this time.

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Speaker 4: You know, this rhetoric feels different, and I want you

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Speaker 4: to talk about why it feels different. But I just

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Speaker 4: to remind people of what has because everybody, the media

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Speaker 4: made a big deal out of Madison Square Garden rally

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Speaker 4: with all the racism, and it's like, were you guys

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Speaker 4: not paying attention the past ten years in the media landscape,

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Speaker 4: it's nothing new. I just want to play some sound

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Speaker 4: from one of his rallies in twenty sixteen, and this

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Speaker 4: is all nat sound that you will hear from attendees,

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Speaker 4: and I'll try to talk through it for the people

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Speaker 4: who can't see it. Nick, let's roll that clip.

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Speaker 6: You're making me leave to.

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Speaker 5: Walk up ahead.

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Speaker 6: God bless Brown.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the shirt off. I'm not bucking a baby.

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Speaker 4: What's your problem with talk?

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Speaker 6: Said Usman is not a religion partner anology? You don't

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Speaker 6: I'm talking about America.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 6: Obama. The Trump, our president has divided this country. He

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Speaker 6: doesn't do back there.

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Speaker 3: Just tron the hell.

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Speaker 6: You're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Silas.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that may more kinds of Spanish.

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Speaker 6: Next together.

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Speaker 4: Who So that's from a rally? In twenty sixteen. If

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Speaker 4: you're listening and not watching, it was constant scenes of violence.

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Speaker 4: If you didn't hear some of the things they were saying,

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Speaker 4: they use the F word rhymes with rag. They said

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Speaker 4: F that nigger referring to President Obama. So I just

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Speaker 4: want to punctuate the point what we're seeing is nothing new.

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Speaker 4: We have all this has been consistent with his rally.

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Speaker 4: So it was very disconcerting to me to see the

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Speaker 4: media handle Madison Square Garden with shock and awe when

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Speaker 4: this is what has been consistent at Trump rallies since

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Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. Again, this is from twenty sixteen, almost eight

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Speaker 4: years ago. So I just wonder what it is that

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Speaker 4: feels different and just curious you guys thoughts on the landscape.

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Speaker 4: That's Angela Andrew and Pastor Bryant would love to hear

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Speaker 4: from you.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to break and then we'll talk about what

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Speaker 3: we think under this side.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Native Lyon podcast. I'm Pastor Jamal Bryant.

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Speaker 6: I'm still in shock and awe from the video we

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Speaker 6: just listened to. It is dizzying. But Tiffany, I think

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Speaker 6: that we have really become a nesteized that the bizarre

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Speaker 6: has become normal, that there is.

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Speaker 5: Now no low bar.

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Speaker 6: No matter what it is that happens, We've just accepted

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Speaker 6: it and have gone on. It has not even lasted

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Speaker 6: a full new cycle on the insults against Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 6: It's not even a blink of the eye that doctor

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Speaker 6: Phil said America doesn't need DEI because it was completely

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Speaker 6: built on hard work. We're seeing your time and time again,

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Speaker 6: and to our amazement as critical thinkers, people are drinking

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Speaker 6: it by the gallon with a straw. To say to

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Speaker 6: the comedian in New York, he was just joking the

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Speaker 6: doctor Phil, Oh, well, you know he's really not a doctor,

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Speaker 6: to the president saying, oh, I don't think we even

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Speaker 6: vet who speaks at the microphone. And so I think

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Speaker 6: that places like Native Land have got to keep our

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Speaker 6: eyes open to say that it's happening right in our midst.

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Speaker 6: The fact of the matter is that they can stay

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Speaker 6: in an open mic that January sixth was just a

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Speaker 6: festival of love since to us that we are in

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Speaker 6: the lost episode of the Twilight Zone. And so I

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Speaker 6: think that we've got to keep our foot on the gas.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I ah, no, no, no, you got it. She wanted

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Speaker 5: you to expressivis differ.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: What feels different? Yeah. What feels different to me is

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Speaker 3: I think that although we know that they were.

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Speaker 1: Boldly saying violent things, being extraordinarily racist, despite people shocking

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Speaker 1: all that racism was a name that we could throw

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Speaker 1: out at Donald Trump, not just from twenty sixteen, but

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Speaker 1: from his history of birth rihism, refusing to rent to

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Speaker 1: black people in the full page as he took out

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Speaker 1: on the Central Park five. I think what felt different

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Speaker 1: is they said it in the crowd, they set it

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Speaker 1: outside of the building. There were dog whistles that I

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Speaker 1: think became foghorns. But I think this time what was

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Speaker 1: different to me is it was in New York on

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Speaker 1: a mic joke after joke after our jokes that weren't funny, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know colin Puerto Rico and Island of Garbage saying that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was getting there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he had another one for Latinos saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't pull out just like they don't do in

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Speaker 1: our country.

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Speaker 3: It just just vile and disgusting.

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Speaker 4: Jokes, right, And it wasn't just me, I'm clear, everybody

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Speaker 4: who took the podium a madimatolage and.

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Speaker 1: It was all of the folks in the crowd who

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Speaker 1: laughed to agree. Some folks grown, but they didn't leave.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think that that felt very different to me. It

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Speaker 1: feels this time like they're even bolder with it. To

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Speaker 1: your point, Pastor where you said that, you know, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump says, we have a surprise for you, me and

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Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson. That is bolder, you know, than he has

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Speaker 1: been before.

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Speaker 3: This man has been.

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Speaker 1: Indicted for this right, and now he's like, let me

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Speaker 1: get back on here and say, y'all were really gonna

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Speaker 1: take this thing.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna try to take it from us, but we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get bolder with it.

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Speaker 1: Not Is it that he's just bold at the mic

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Speaker 1: and bold with an alleged comedian. They're also bold with

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court challenges. There was a time where there

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Speaker 1: was a respected window. I think it's a ninety day

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Speaker 1: period where you do not challenge what's happening in the

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Speaker 1: voting booth.

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Speaker 3: They're like, the hell with that.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is on our side anyway, and the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court is ruled in their favor. That is the

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Speaker 1: very thing that I think we've been most afraid of

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Speaker 1: on this podcast. So it does feel remarkably different to

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Speaker 1: the point, it feels like it.

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Speaker 4: But I just I will just punctuate Angela. They were

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Speaker 4: saying those same things at the microphone then Donald Trump himself, Well,

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Speaker 4: I didn't see it. That's my point, like we it's

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Speaker 4: so much coming at us that we literally forget.

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Speaker 6: We can't your point, you know, to your point, Tiffany,

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Speaker 6: that on political violence, psychologists will say there are seven

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Speaker 6: different forms of abuse, and we only focus on physical

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Speaker 6: We don't deal with verbal abuse, we don't deal with

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Speaker 6: the emotional abuse, we don't deal with financial abuse. And

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Speaker 6: so what we're seeing is sophisticated racism. They're not burning

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Speaker 6: crosses in front of the church anymore. They're redlining the

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Speaker 6: zip code around the church. Uh, they're doing a gentrification

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Speaker 6: at a high velocity speed. They are really changing the laws.

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Speaker 6: If we're listening intently, that if you teach black history,

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Speaker 6: your school will lose funding. I think that the yes,

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Speaker 6: the violence that you're speaking of is happening, and we're

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Speaker 6: getting punched into chests and have a fractured ribcage and

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Speaker 6: got black eyes and don't notice it because we're putting

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Speaker 6: on mac lipstick on time. But the abuse is a

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Speaker 6: whole lot more intense than what it was past.

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Speaker 5: You're so right around the way in which the violence

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Speaker 5: is being delivered. It's more palatable in some forms and

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Speaker 5: less palatable in others. The video that the Tiffany Q

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Speaker 5: obviously is overt out loud. No one can shuck and

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Speaker 5: turn their eyes away from the fact that it is

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Speaker 5: exactly what it looks like. But in a state like Florida,

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Speaker 5: and Florida is not alone, It's multiplied, you know, by

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Speaker 5: the tens in other states, all across the traditional south

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Speaker 5: of the US. You've got governors who have already put

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Speaker 5: into place policies that extract the teaching of black history

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Speaker 5: out of curriculum. They've already changed what kind of information

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Speaker 5: is contained on tests, statewide tests that kids are taking

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Speaker 5: every single year to again extricate the truth of American

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Speaker 5: history out of it from it and then to of

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Speaker 5: course rip those books off the shelves with no penalty

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Speaker 5: to face, no penalty to be faced, but because it's

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Speaker 5: being delivered by a governor who wears a suit or

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Speaker 5: a nice dress with a flower on top of it,

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Speaker 5: that somehow it is appropriate and not only appropriate but

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Speaker 5: right for the times, reflective of our political environment, reflective of,

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Speaker 5: by and large, the cultural center at the time. All

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Speaker 5: those things they're happening already. You said, you know, mac

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Speaker 5: lipstick on a pig, But that's exactly the form and

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Speaker 5: to take it. And I say all that to say

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Speaker 5: that this is not just a problem or a party

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Speaker 5: of Donald Trump. You can remove him if you want.

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Speaker 5: I hope we do so successfully throughout this, you know,

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Speaker 5: in this election cycle, by soundly and roundly defeating him.

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Speaker 5: But his policies, what he is advancing, what he's talking about,

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Speaker 5: he's just you know, he's just a messier spokesperson. But

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Speaker 5: the truth is is that this is what they believe.

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Speaker 5: This is who they are. These are the policies that

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Speaker 5: they are advancing in our states, all across the country.

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Speaker 5: They're no different. And that's what I hope, you know,

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Speaker 5: to the earlier question of will a Kamala have to

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Speaker 5: you know, be the right person to sort of get

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Speaker 5: us past our divides, well, it takes two partners. It

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Speaker 5: takes more than her. Hare's got to be willing participants

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Speaker 5: opposite her on the other side. And when you got

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Speaker 5: the speaker of the House, who's trading secrets of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: likely about how it is that they want to steal

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Speaker 5: this election. You got Mitch McConnell, who is about to

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Speaker 5: be outgoing leader, but while he was there, he stole

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Speaker 5: the US Supreme Court and hated Republicans in taking over

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Speaker 5: the court. So I am I'm less dreary about the

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Speaker 5: outcome of the election at this point in time, because

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Speaker 5: I think we will do what we need to do

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Speaker 5: to deliver at least Kamala Harris into the presidency. But

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm not terrified about the violence and the forms

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Speaker 5: that it may take. I'm terrified about what the next

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Speaker 5: four years are going to look like in the States

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Speaker 5: and even at the federal level, where they're coming to

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Speaker 5: continue to produce this very disruptive and harmful agenda to

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Speaker 5: our communities. And they're going to do it and it

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Speaker 5: won't get the attention that Donald Trump is getting because

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Speaker 5: it's going to be delivered in a pretty package with

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Speaker 5: a bow, rather than you know, chaotically and with violence

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Speaker 5: and all the other stuff that makes us all in

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Speaker 5: polite society clutch pearls. I don't believe that that's the

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Speaker 5: way it's going to happen. But I think that's going

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Speaker 5: to be the most detrimental part.

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Speaker 6: It is the last opportunity for the Black Church and

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Speaker 6: our traditional civil rights organizations to prove themselves.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, I know that's your computer Nation, I know it is.

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Speaker 5: It could be somebody on the production and you don't

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Speaker 5: know it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know thumb is ding it anyway. So here's

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Speaker 1: the thing that I also wanted to put on y'all's radar.

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Speaker 3: That's making me nervous.

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Speaker 1: So we know that there have been ballot boxes set

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Speaker 1: on fire in Arizona, in my own state of Washington,

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Speaker 1: and in Oregon. Some folks are saying that those articles

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Speaker 1: are saying not just the people are saying, but articles

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Speaker 1: are saying that there have been association with Gazza protesters

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Speaker 1: free guys associated with those ballot boxes burning. But there

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Speaker 1: was also some ballots found in the middle of the street.

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Speaker 1: Andrew and tif I said that to y'all, and I

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Speaker 1: was like trigger warning because I tell Pastor, I tell

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Speaker 1: Andrew all the time, Like, I don't know who's more

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Speaker 1: frustrated about that alleged election loss in twenty eighteen, me

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Speaker 1: or Andrew. Because it's stuff like this that happens in Florida.

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Speaker 1: So they find these ballots in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: street and this man turns them in to the police station.

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Speaker 1: There's a sealed bag in a sealed box. He takes

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Speaker 1: them into the police station. Yesterday, they said that they're fine,

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Speaker 1: they certified them, they're good.

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Speaker 3: But what, like, where are they doing? They just drop

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Speaker 3: it off? Mellisin, Like, that's violence.

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Speaker 12: I believe anymore on all that. I mean, verification, verify,

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Speaker 12: verify verified. Yeah, I mean even in eighteen, even in eighteen,

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Speaker 12: we had, you know, issues.

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Speaker 4: There were ballots they refused to count that.

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Speaker 3: Were in the post.

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Speaker 5: I remember there was a bomber and he was sending

875
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Speaker 5: bombs through the mail into Florida in twenty eighteen, which

876
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: then slowed down in counties like Broward and Miami Dade,

877
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: largely targeting black post offices and Palm Beach County like

878
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 5: post offices or at least where patrons where the majority

879
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 5: of patrons tend to be black, and it halted the

880
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: delivery of mail because they bought in an additional level

881
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 5: of security screening so that these employees wouldn't be opening

882
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: this mail. And some explosion happens and Unfortunately, some of

883
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 5: the opening of that mail drug on beyond the point

884
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 5: of certification and so thousands all of that. So they

885
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: know how to disrupt elections, There's no doubt about it.

886
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 6: They know how to do it.

887
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 5: The lack of certifications. That only good news I have

888
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 5: to think about the certification process is that in a

889
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: lot of these places where they're refusing certification, the precincts

890
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: are actually majority Republican precincts, and so the nullification of

891
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 5: the vote is actually the nullification of their votes. You

892
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: can't go to a black precinct unless you live in

893
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 5: that precinct and be on the certification board there. You

894
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: must be a voting member in that precinct in order

895
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 5: to certify or to refuse certification. So the good I think,

896
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: just like they did injury to themselves and the midterm

897
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: elections after twenty twenty Donald Trump telling people not to

898
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: mail in ballots cost them. They're creating reliability of the system.

899
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 5: Saying elections are being stolen actually depressed their turnout Black

900
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 5: folks that have persisted through this before.

901
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and that's the thing, like I think that

902
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: we have to acknowledge, Like one, this is one place

903
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: where I disagree with you slightly on a nuanced I

904
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea to have anybody believing

905
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: that elections aren't reliable and that we count we can't

906
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: count on the vote.

907
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 3: I think it is also frustrating.

908
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: That there are places that are predominantly black where our

909
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: votes are constantly challenged, tried suppressed.

910
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: And even when you look at what the Supreme Court's.

911
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Involvement in this, they're the same ones that have essentially

912
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: got rid of, gutted section five and section four of

913
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act and take took the teas out

914
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: of section two.

915
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: So now right before literally by the time our episode airs,

916
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: we're gonna be five days out pastor now.

917
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: It is these these people who we say are not

918
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: citizens in Virginia, their ballots don't count.

919
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: You can.

920
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: That's a voter perb that's a purchase of the rules

921
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: right before election day.

922
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: That is violent.

923
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: If when you talk about what's happening in Pennsylvania, to

924
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: be clear, Joe Biden only won Pennsylvania by eighty thousand votes,

925
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: them saying that provisional ballots cannot get counted regardless of

926
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: if a mail in ballot is counted.

927
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: Is an affront to democracy. It really really is.

928
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: And I think no matter what side of the aisle

929
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: you stand on, you guys, I don't know if our

930
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: listeners know this.

931
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: The Voting Rights Act.

932
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: In every single reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act until

933
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Barack Obama became president was a bipartisan vote. It was

934
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 1: very rare for a Republican to vote against the Voting

935
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: Rights Act reauthorization. Even in nineteen sixty five, there were

936
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: a handful of folks that voted against it.

937
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: You know, I don't got the exact numbers, but look

938
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: it up to in fact check me.

939
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: That is for sure.

940
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: But now all of a sudden, when black people.

941
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: Can get to the top of the ballot, a sudden,

942
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: we got all these voting challenges and concerns, and we

943
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: need voter ID and early voting days.

944
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: We can't have them that long.

945
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: And you want to be vote absentee? Why are you

946
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: voting absentee? And we want to make sure that you're

947
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: actually a citizen. We want to make you prove that

948
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: you're worthy of the vote, despite the fact that your

949
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: ancestors died for this right is It is a major problem.

950
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: It needs to be confronted, and I don't think we

951
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: should be looking at this at a partisan level at all.

952
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: It is politically violent on all sides to try to

953
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: discount and deterve people from believing in a democracy that

954
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: yes it's fragile, then yes, in many ways is fractured,

955
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: but it is not broken and it can be perfected.

956
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: Didn't mean to be good, and that's so bad.

957
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: I think, just like factually speaking, that is a consistent

958
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 4: problem that was so baked into the media that it

959
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: wasn't even covered. You know, I've talked about this a

960
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 4: lot on the show. But in Detroit in twenty sixteen,

961
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: more than eighty voting machines malfunctioned, which resulted in discrepancies

962
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 4: in fifty nine percent of the precincts. I mean, these

963
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: are these are actual infrastructure issues because it wasn't covered.

964
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: It simply was not covered by the press unfortunately. And

965
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: speaking of I do want to get in another viewer

966
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: question because someone has a question talking about that, uh

967
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: the media. So let's roll that and then we can

968
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: talk about it on the other side. Think we can

969
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: get it in before a break.

970
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 14: He need a lampod It's Leah here. First of all,

971
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 14: thank you so much for the platform. I love listening

972
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 14: to y'all every single week. My question is actually about

973
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 14: post election, but before you come from me, Angelae, I

974
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 14: voted already and I've been telling everybody I know I

975
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 14: love to vote, but I feel like a lot of

976
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 14: people in my community and a lot of friends, feel

977
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 14: like once the president is in office, we do.

978
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: Not hear from them again.

979
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 14: Tiffany also talk about how legacy media is declining. The

980
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 14: views are not what they used to be in the

981
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 14: journalism isn't just for what it feels like for us

982
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 14: right now can be trustworthy. I also own and operate

983
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 14: to publishing companies, So I guess my question to you

984
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 14: is what can us as people who are building media

985
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 14: companies be doing to drive this link and how can

986
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 14: we keep the momentum going because so many people are

987
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 14: more civically engaged than they ever have been, and I

988
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 14: don't want that to fall off once the president goes

989
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 14: into off it. So let me know, Carris, to hear

990
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 14: your thoughts. It's giving maybe like a newsletter from our president,

991
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 14: like I would subscribe to that because what are this

992
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 14: on a task?

993
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: What are we doing on a weekly, monthly and quarterly basis.

994
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, love y'all.

995
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: I love that question and I love her. I voted sticker,

996
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: and we will have an answer for her on the

997
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 4: other side of his break, so I don't go anywhere.

998
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

999
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: Welcome back to natively. I think we all we all

1000
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 4: think she had a few questions in there, and we

1001
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: all probably I have something to say about it. I'll

1002
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: just quickly say about the mediacau she's saying she's building

1003
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: a publishing company. I would need to know more about

1004
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 4: it to see if it's actual, you know, journalism or

1005
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: you book publishing, Like what does that mean? But I

1006
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 4: would just say for the media every week, I feel

1007
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: like I'm complaining and moaning about something in the media,

1008
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: but honestly, just the it is beyond a broken landscape

1009
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: at this point. It is utterly ridiculous. And I already

1010
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 4: talked about the way the media covered this Madison Square

1011
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: Garden rally, but I keep punctuating the point of newsroom diversity.

1012
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: You know, there still seems to be an effort in

1013
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: this country to center the comfort of white folks, and

1014
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: not even just white folks, older conservative white folks, a

1015
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: shrinking demographic in this country. When you look at the

1016
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: print landscape, when you look at the media narrative, voter

1017
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: suppression was so baked into the cake in every story

1018
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: pre twenty sixteen. We're just now barely scratching the surface

1019
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: on voter suppression. The same way, Angela, that you were saying, Oh,

1020
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: I didn't even know about Detroit. Most people didn't know

1021
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 4: about Detroit because it wasn't covered. If something like that

1022
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 4: happened with Harvard College admissions, it would have been breaking news.

1023
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 4: Something like that happened with Target losing that many members information,

1024
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: it would have been breaking news. But because it was

1025
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: voting in a predominantly black neighborhood, people did not pay

1026
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 4: much attention to it and it simply was not covered.

1027
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 4: So I think the more the media continues to center

1028
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: a shrinking demographic, the more they will see their viewership shrink.

1029
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: And we have to be wise about where we spend

1030
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: our time, our energy, our dollars. We have to be

1031
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 4: wise when it comes to misinformation and disinformation. So be

1032
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 4: careful and share responsibly, but also be wise about what

1033
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: you're watching. You know, Angela, we talk about having anxiety

1034
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I think it's an intentional effort of

1035
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 4: the press to keep us anxious about this election because

1036
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 4: they want you to keep tuning in. I find when

1037
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: I don't watch the news, when I'm just reading things

1038
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 4: that are politically edifying, that are informative, my anxiety goes

1039
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: way down. But I do like her question about how

1040
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: to stay engaged. So I'm curious what you might tell

1041
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: young people, Angela and Andrew who there is this momentum

1042
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: around presidential elections, and then when it's over, you know

1043
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: what happens. Where does that excitement go? What can they

1044
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: be doing with their time and energy?

1045
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: I love this question for Andrew, and I love this

1046
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: question for Pastor Bryan since he was over the youth

1047
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and college division.

1048
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: What about the youth past times.

1049
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 6: I think that one of the things that we've not

1050
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 6: dealt with in this episode is don't forget the bottom

1051
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 6: of the teen when all of our focus that just

1052
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 6: be on top, there's a whole lot that is at stake.

1053
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: Johnson will only be in place if we don't go

1054
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 6: out and vote. We've got the capacity to flip four

1055
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 6: or five seats in the House, and those are going

1056
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 6: to be critical for the certification of the election, as

1057
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 6: well as most of our public schools no longer have

1058
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 6: civic class There are things people think that the president

1059
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: has authority over that doesn't, and we find out all

1060
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 6: of us on social media people are asking what the

1061
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 6: vice president did or did not do because they don't

1062
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: understand what are the boundaries of the power of the

1063
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: vice president. Richard Nieber, theologian said, politicians can only do

1064
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 6: what the people allow them to do, and so I

1065
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 6: think that is part of our responsibility is to hold

1066
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 6: them accountable and to really underscore what is our ask.

1067
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 6: Power concedes nothing without a demand. If you don't ask

1068
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 6: for anything, you won't receive anything.

1069
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: Andrew, what about you? You started the Young Elected Officials Network.

1070
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: You were elected right out of FAMUS as a commissioner

1071
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: in Tallahassee.

1072
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: Like, what are the ways to stay engaged? You ran

1073
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: from office to stay in there.

1074
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 5: Well, one thing following you, Paster Brian, I appreciate you

1075
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 5: mentioning voting the whole ballot. I want to one I

1076
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 5: want to double down. Please please please vote your entire ballot.

1077
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 5: But I also want to say for voters, one of

1078
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 5: the things that's been turning some of the younger voters

1079
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 5: out in low information voters off is that they don't

1080
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 5: know how to vote and all the other races on

1081
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 5: the constitutional questions and some of the ordinances that may

1082
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 5: be on the ballot. And you should also be aware

1083
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 5: that your ballot does not get thrown out if you

1084
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 5: don't vote in every spot where there's an opportunity for

1085
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 5: you to cast a choice one way or another, so

1086
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 5: your ballot doesn't get thrown out if you leave some

1087
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 5: races blank. However, I encourage you before you vote, get

1088
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 5: informed so that you vote the right way to the

1089
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: question my co host and pastor. I think one thing

1090
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 5: that happens is when the president gets elected, they go

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Speaker 5: to work, and oftentimes not enough energy and time is

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Speaker 5: spent on keeping people bought along with you so that

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Speaker 5: they can help you deliver on the agenda that you're

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: trying to provide every one of us the moment you

1095
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 5: should do it now, but the moment she's elected. Should

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00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 5: subscribe to the White House's newsletter. They should subscribe. They

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Speaker 5: produce it, They produced talking points, they produce the calendar

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Speaker 5: every day of what's happening with senior administration officials. So

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Speaker 5: it isn't like that doesn't exist. It does exist. We

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Speaker 5: have to be good citizens go get it by simply

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Speaker 5: putting our name on the list and letting that information

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Speaker 5: come to us. You know what, guys, I don't think

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Speaker 5: there is a perfect response to this, because you recall

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Speaker 5: Obama created after his election, initially used OFA as his

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01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: organizing tool to keep people engaged through the election. They

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: had more money dedicated towards that thing than a little

1107
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: bit to power the people to be behind the president.

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01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 5: And even that didn't meet the expectations of many Americans

1109
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: who said I felt abandoned after the election. Well, guess what.

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Speaker 5: This democracy requires that we do something to be part

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 5: of it. It isn't that the apparatus didn't exist. It existed.

1112
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 5: How many of us plugged into it stayed ignited around it?

1113
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 5: And the truth is is all of us lose momentum

1114
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 5: after election. It sucks a lot out of us. But

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 5: I gotta say, if there was a time for us

1116
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 5: to engage beyond just the election cycle, that time is now.

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris will not be able to deliver on her

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 5: agenda and a divided government unless we got people in

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Speaker 5: the streets, people in neighborhoods and communities that are walking canvassing,

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Speaker 5: keeping their neighbors organized and aware of what's happening so

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Speaker 5: that we can then demand the promises that were made

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Speaker 5: demand on them. But the absence of that, y'all, we've

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Speaker 5: got little chance of seeing the kinds of results that

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Speaker 5: I think we've loaded onto her and onto leadership without

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Speaker 5: us having her back. And it's not just in social media,

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Speaker 5: but in actual canvassing, door to door information sharing operations

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Speaker 5: that many of us have engaged in so far in

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Speaker 5: this election. We got to keep that going.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Andrew, to your point that you said after the election,

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Speaker 6: Kamala Harris has got to go straight to work. And

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Speaker 6: that is the disconnect between Donald Trump, who lives from rally.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't want to do the work. He wants to

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Speaker 6: be at the ass party and so he has spent

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Speaker 6: four years doing rallies. And so now a week, five

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Speaker 6: days before the election, we still don't have a plan.

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Speaker 6: Concept though, the concept of a plan, because it's not

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Speaker 6: really about going to work. It's come on, meet me

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01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 6: at you're trying to.

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Speaker 1: Stay out of jail and speaking of power, conceding nothing

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Speaker 1: with our demand pastor what you talk about all the time.

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Speaker 1: We have another question that I think is important because

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Speaker 1: on this show we engage in nuance.

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Speaker 13: Hi native Lampard. My name is Carrington and I'm from Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 13: So there's been a lot of debates about Palestinian protesters

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Speaker 13: coming to Democratic campaign rallies, specifically VP Harris's campaign rallies

1146
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Speaker 13: and destructing. I am a campaign staffer and I've seen

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Speaker 13: this head on and I wanted to know what are

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Speaker 13: y'all's thoughts because I'm not too sure if this is

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Speaker 13: the most effective strategy to tackle this issue. But I'm

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 13: also an advocate for human rights and I do stand

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 13: in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Another question is what

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Speaker 13: can I do as a person who's passionate about politics

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Speaker 13: but also passionate about human.

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Speaker 3: Rights and social justice.

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Speaker 13: I would love to hear your thoughts on this, and

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Speaker 13: also if you know any jobs that I should apply

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Speaker 13: for on the hill post election day.

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Speaker 5: Please let me know.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: As they say closed miles don't care.

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Speaker 1: Carrington's future is bright because she ain't afraid to.

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Speaker 3: To demand power. Concenes nothing without a demand.

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Speaker 1: I love that she, at a young age, clearly can

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Speaker 1: hold space for Palestinians and still know that ain't but

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Speaker 1: one option on this ticket right that I think is

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Speaker 1: remarkable for someone at her age. And I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a good question is this strategy effective? And if

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Speaker 1: like we have been, we've been in solidarity not just

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Speaker 1: in speech but also in our in our actions co

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Speaker 1: hosts and pastor with the Palestinian people, I wonder what

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Speaker 1: is the path forward because we know that what is

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Speaker 1: happening over there cannot continue. And I cannot imagine if

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Speaker 1: I had a relative there I say this all the time,

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Speaker 1: I would be a fool.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what ledge y'all would have to talk

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Speaker 3: me off of.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, when you look at the fact that both

1178
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 6: sides have been doing better tap dancing than Sammy Davis Junior,

1179
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 6: is they have to really bowl right down the center

1180
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Speaker 6: aisle at the DNC convention. They had to really make

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Speaker 6: their voices heard. Imagine if there was no disruption, how

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 6: much more would have gone forward. I think a data

1183
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 6: just came out from the New York Times that eighty

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Speaker 6: two percent of the destruction and the bombs that have

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 6: gone off and the chaos American taxpayers have paid for.

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Speaker 6: And so if we haven't been sounding the alarm, the

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Speaker 6: carnage would be that much deeper and greater. One of

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Speaker 6: the handicaps we had tiffany with President Obama's presidency as

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Speaker 6: black people were in a crosshair on how do you

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Speaker 6: protest pharaoh when he looks like you. So when it

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Speaker 6: is that we wanted to call him out on certain

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Speaker 6: issues we were seeing as sellouts, don't say anything. And

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Speaker 6: I think that we've got to learn from it that

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Speaker 6: we put policy over personality and realize that even while

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Speaker 6: it is that I like you, I love you enough

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Speaker 6: to challenge you, and I think.

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Speaker 5: That that's our response to I love that. And I

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Speaker 5: also think these protesters are going where they feel that

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Speaker 5: their voices still may be heard, where they still may

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Speaker 5: make a breakthrough. For many of us were saying, we

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 5: are allied with you because we believe in human rights.

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Speaker 5: But for them, it's like, forget human rights. I'm talking

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Speaker 5: about my cousin and my aunt, my mother's sister, and

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 5: my uncle, and it is so so much more deeply

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01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 5: personal that I don't feel like any of us have

1206
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Speaker 5: the prerogative to direct how they are to vote and

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Speaker 5: how they ought to show up in American politics I

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 5: think their fight ought to be anywhere they can wage it,

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 5: anywhere they can get in range of somebody being on

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Speaker 5: the other side with a listening ear. They got to

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Speaker 5: make their demands, and whomever we're making them to how

1212
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 5: to desensitize themselves to it being an attack on you,

1213
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Speaker 5: and moreover, an attack on what you now represent, which

1214
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Speaker 5: is an institution, is as a system. Kamala Harris, if elected,

1215
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Speaker 5: will be at the helm of the United States government,

1216
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Speaker 5: and that means everything that flows from that table. Everything

1217
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 5: She will bear some responsibility for she and her administration,

1218
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Speaker 5: because the Supreme Court is ruled that the executive branch

1219
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 5: exists of a leader of one, the President of the

1220
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Speaker 5: United States. That's the only place where that is true.

1221
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Speaker 5: Between the three branches, the Judiciary US, between the nine justices,

1222
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 5: the Congress is split. They split between four to thirty

1223
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 5: five in the House and another hundred in the Senate.

1224
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 5: The executive is one according to the law interpreted by

1225
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 5: this court, and so you will have to answer for it.

1226
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Speaker 5: And she becomes again the helm, the representative voice of

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Speaker 5: an institution and of course the most powerful nation in

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 6: To Tiffany, to go back to political violence, Uh. And

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Speaker 6: I want to go back two segments on what we

1231
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Speaker 6: raised about Madison Square Garden. We cannot give a pass

1232
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Speaker 6: to Ruty Julie who got to the mic uh and

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Speaker 6: vilified two year olds. Uh. They said two year olds

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: can't come in the country because two year olds are

1235
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 6: trained assassin when they just learning to tie the issues.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And so I think in the in the backlash of

1238
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 6: that kind of vitrol, that you've got to be disruptive.

1239
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Speaker 6: But my only issue that I want to stay with them,

1240
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 6: my dear sister from Texas, is that I think is

1241
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 6: the imbalance if you're only doing those disruptions at the

1242
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 6: Democratic Party but not doing any of that at the

1243
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 6: Republican rallies. I think they're just got to be fair.

1244
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Speaker 6: It's got to be balanced because their language is very threatening.

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: That's to Andrew's point, though they know where they can

1246
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: go if they.

1247
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Speaker 10: Go to.

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 3: Earlier their laws are literally at.

1249
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Speaker 1: State going to those rallies, the violence then people saying

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Speaker 1: that Islam is not a relationship.

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Speaker 4: That said, yeah, well, right go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to respond really quickly because she was

1254
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 4: asking if it was effective, and I just want to say, Andrew,

1255
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Speaker 4: I really appreciate your point about saying like that's their cousin,

1256
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 4: that's somebody they know. And I gotta say, if a

1257
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 4: government was funding the killing of my people who look

1258
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 4: like me, who I'm related to, who I can touch to,

1259
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 4: I email, who I taxis are real life people looking

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Speaker 4: at soon crossing over fifty thousand people, mostly women and children,

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 4: and they're being silenced here in America. And if you

1262
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 4: look at Western media, it's a very specific narrative that

1263
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 4: is not always accurately portraying what is happening over there.

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 4: Brown University right here in America, just suspended it's chapter

1265
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 4: of Students for Justice for Palestine. The students are saying

1266
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 4: it is a politically motivated act on behalf of the university.

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Speaker 4: We've seen across college campuses everywhere. So when you're being silenced,

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 4: you deserve to be heard. So if that is where

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 4: they can be heard, I think Vice President Harris handled

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: it very well this week when she was disrupted and

1271
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 4: she said, hey, hey guys, I hear you and address them.

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Speaker 4: I like her handling it that way. It's not a

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 4: good idea to eject people or reject what they're feeling,

1274
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: or deny their experience, and she has this is a

1275
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 4: real issue, and we just got to be honest about this.

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Speaker 4: She has a real issue with the Arab community around Gaza,

1277
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Speaker 4: and it seems like a small solution to call for

1278
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: an immediate, permanent ceasefire. And so I think as much

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: as they can be heard, we support that for sure.

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Speaker 4: And I also just want to point out that this

1281
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: week Donald Trump insulted Michelle Obama for the first time.

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 4: It's like he's known better before, but now he's come

1283
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 4: out and called her nasty, really because she got the

1284
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: better of him and he's a child, but he insulted

1285
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Speaker 4: her this week. So I think this level of vitriol

1286
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Speaker 4: that's coming if they the saying about if we don't

1287
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 4: say anything for Palestinians when they come for us, we

1288
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: have to speak up. They have to become we. We

1289
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: have to become us when you harm somebody, we stand

1290
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 4: on the side of goodness and righteousness.

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Speaker 5: So is clear that there's always another yeah, because because

1292
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 5: their grievance, that is their politics. Now, grievance is their politics.

1293
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 5: We're not hearing plans. Nobody's talking about going and voting

1294
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 5: for him because of his position on X Y and

1295
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 5: Z and and such and such. It's it's the fact

1296
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 5: that their politics is now the politics of complaint, and

1297
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 5: that there's always another or another that's responsible for whatever

1298
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 5: injury that you happen to be feeling. And for a

1299
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 5: party that used to talk about bootstraps and and and

1300
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 5: strength and so, I mean, I've never seen a weaker

1301
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 5: version of themselves that I have in these last several

1302
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 5: years of politics. It is very, very, very weak, and

1303
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Speaker 5: I think unrepresentative of what they tout about who they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we are. At the end of our show,

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Speaker 3: we always have cause. Oh no, he gonna go first.

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Speaker 1: So we have calls to action at the end of

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Speaker 1: every episode, Pastor Jamal Harrison Bryan, So what do you

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Speaker 1: have for us?

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Speaker 3: What's our call to action this week?

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Speaker 6: Our call to action is every relative you have, I

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Speaker 6: need you to blow up the phone. I want you

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Speaker 6: to send all of them to rides to vote ridesdovote

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Speaker 6: dot com. We've got free uber rides for everybody to

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Speaker 6: get to your polling station. I don't want you to

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Speaker 6: have any excuse. You don't have to hitchhike, you ain't

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Speaker 6: got to catch two buses. You can get an uber

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Speaker 6: to the polls. I need you to go tell it

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Speaker 6: on the mountain or over the hills and everywhere. And

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Speaker 6: as we said, don't just vote at the top of

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Speaker 6: the ticket, vote all the way down and read the

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Speaker 6: pieces of legislation that are on the ballot for your

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Speaker 6: state and for your region. Many of them about museums

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Speaker 6: and about schools and about funding different areas. So if

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Speaker 6: you really want to be involved, educate yourself. Angela and

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Speaker 6: I are Alumness of the NAACP. Mega Evers gave us

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Speaker 6: the blueprint and said, voter education, voter registration, get out

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Speaker 6: the vote. I don't want you to just go out

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Speaker 6: and vote. I want you to know what you're voting

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Speaker 6: for and what it's about. The people are clear that

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Speaker 6: our people are dying from a lack of knowledge, So

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Speaker 6: find out before you go to the polls.

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Speaker 3: Love it very good.

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Speaker 1: I have two One, you know, since we got the

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Speaker 1: Passion House, I want to shout out everybody who goes

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Speaker 1: to Bible study on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 3: That was that's when our church used to do Bible study.

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Speaker 1: And since we talked about Two Corinthians earlier, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about two Timothy one and seven, where it

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Speaker 1: says that God hasn't given us a spirit of fear,

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Speaker 1: but of power.

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Speaker 3: Of love, and of a sound mind.

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Speaker 1: So if you go to a rally and you see

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of fear, talk, yes, okay, So now

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Speaker 1: I just want to go over here to shout out

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Speaker 1: Black voters matter. We're gonna be with them a few

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Speaker 1: more times before election Day. We have three stay with

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Speaker 1: Me three live shows coming up. We will be in

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Speaker 1: Tallahassee this Friday for Andrew's homecoming at Florida A and

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Speaker 1: M University.

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Speaker 3: Thought I thought she was like, no, you list a

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Speaker 3: finger your froze.

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Speaker 4: I can't see that's a schizophrenic cat.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Lord, yeah, y'all make sure you turn into that.

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Speaker 1: We won't say the name of that episode because the

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Speaker 1: pastor is here. But also we are going to be

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia on Monday and we will be at Howard

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Speaker 1: University on Tuesday with our good brother Lenar. We are

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Speaker 1: going to do a joint breakfast club Native lampod live

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Speaker 1: Election Day, hopefully history making election day where the voter

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Speaker 1: turnout is so great they can't even stop you with

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Speaker 1: a provisional ballot not counted. So yes, go out and

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Speaker 1: vote say the website for us one more.

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Speaker 6: Time, rides to vote dot com as that you'll please

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Speaker 6: go spread it everywhere, and I'll call to action. I

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Speaker 6: want to, and I want to. I got to. I

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Speaker 6: gotta do it. I got to invite Tiffany and those

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Speaker 6: of you who don't go to church. I cannot. I

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Speaker 6: cannot go out without inviting Tiffany come to church. And

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Speaker 6: those of you who don't go to church. I want

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Speaker 6: you to come. And those of you don't feel comfortable

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Speaker 6: come to church. Stream us go to New.

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Speaker 4: Clear.

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Speaker 3: What is the next episode dropped tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: Tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Next episode drops same day as he gonna be on

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Speaker 1: two podcasts tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: All right for today today because Andrew and Tim, you

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Speaker 3: guys tip he said, y'all doing one life from church.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, my call to action is not political. I

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Speaker 4: so you all just heard Angela go over our schedule.

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Speaker 4: She'd been messing up my travel all the time. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so I'm getting off my flights. Where were we Atlanta?

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Speaker 3: So pray where is this going? I'm nervous my call

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Speaker 3: to action?

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Speaker 4: I think I told you what happened is if I

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Speaker 4: want the viewers to know. So anyway, Pastor Bryant. I'm

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Speaker 4: getting off the plane and I need to rearrange my

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Speaker 4: whole travel okay, And so I'm like, I don't have time.

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Speaker 4: Let me just google MX Travel and I uh just

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Speaker 4: hit call AMEX Travel and I'm on the phone and honey,

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Speaker 4: I didn't gave these people to key to my whole life.

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Speaker 4: They're like, we need to verify your account number, we

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Speaker 4: need to verify your security number. Do y'all know I

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Speaker 4: was not talking to MX Travel. Somebody then bought the website,

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Speaker 4: like it's a weird website and it's slightly you gotta

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Speaker 4: watch it. And I gave these people everything, and the

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Speaker 4: thing that made me Spidey gave my spidy senses like five.

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Speaker 4: They had me on hold for like five minutes, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, AMEX wouldn't have me on hold that long,

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Speaker 4: not with these big ass balances. I carried, somebody better

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Speaker 4: get on this call. And ten seconds and I hung

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Speaker 4: up and I had to call AMEX and tell them.

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Speaker 4: So my call to action is these scammers are getting

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Speaker 4: good and better and tighter. They didn't get anything for me,

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Speaker 4: and AMEX was able to, you know, just say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: they shut it down. But if I heard this story,

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Speaker 4: I would have thought, Oh, that wouldn't happen to me.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling y'all, it happened to me. They almost

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Speaker 4: got me, but they didn't. So just be careful on

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Speaker 4: but God, So be careful on what information you give

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Speaker 4: and how you're verify that you're talking to the correct person.

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Speaker 4: That's my CTA, my testimony, my thankfulness in my CTA.

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Speaker 5: My caught action is a repeat but directly specifically targeting

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Speaker 5: Florida voters. If you are a Florida voter, a Democrat

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Speaker 5: in Florida, and you haven't voted yet, please do so asap.

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Speaker 5: Republicans are outpacing Democrats quite significantly in early vote and

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Speaker 5: absentee vote. That has not always been the case. In

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, Democrats outpaced Republicans by that matrix. And so

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Speaker 5: if you're in the state of Florida, there are serious

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Speaker 5: issues questions on the ballot, to include the legalization of marijuana,

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Speaker 5: to include the modification of ROE in the state's constitution,

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Speaker 5: protecting a woman's right to make her own reproductive health decisions,

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Speaker 5: and a number of local issues that are too numerous

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Speaker 5: to name, but I know Republicans have done an incredible

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Speaker 5: job at beating the spirit out of us, of sitting

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Speaker 5: on our backs and constricting our breathing in every single way,

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Speaker 5: trying to force us out of the system. But we

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Speaker 5: make that job easier when we choose not to participate.

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Speaker 5: So you're in Florida, it really is for everywhere. But

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Speaker 5: I want to admonish my state, particularly to get out

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Speaker 5: and vote because five days before the final day of

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Speaker 5: election day, we ain't looking so great. So let's get

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Speaker 5: those numbers up. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is episode forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, we got five days, we got five

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Speaker 1: on it till election day. Make sure you take five

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Speaker 1: people with you and only vote one time five people.

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Speaker 3: Please make sure you take five people with you are

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Speaker 3: more than that.

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Speaker 1: Before we end the show, I want to remind everyone

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Speaker 1: to leave us a review and subscribe to Native Lampard.

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: We're available on all platforms and YouTube. New episodes drop

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. You can also follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: We are angela Rie, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillim and

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01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: our guest host. But you know you have a pastor

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Speaker 1: in the building. Jamal Harrison Bryant was New Birth Missionary

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Speaker 1: church missionary Baptist Church.

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Speaker 3: I messed up. I've left off.

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Speaker 6: The Baptist did it.

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Speaker 1: But he was A and me first, and he was

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Speaker 1: an NA A c P at the same time as

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Speaker 1: A and me. Okay, I'm done, all right, I'm done here.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for joining the Natives attentional with the

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Speaker 2: info and all of the latest rock gullim and cross

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Speaker 2: connective to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients reason for your choices clear,

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Speaker 2: so grateful it took to execute roles than for serve

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Speaker 2: defending protect the truth.

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Speaker 6: He went and paint we will walking home to all

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Speaker 6: of the Natives. We thank you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome all, y'all, welcome.

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