WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Return of Bryan Broaddus

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Friday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number five. It is a day nine of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Here on the break. We've got Dave Hellman, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, and we got our buddy Brian broad est Man.

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<v Speaker 1>When I when you first mentioned on on Twitter that

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<v Speaker 1>you might be around and uh and and offered very

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<v Speaker 1>graciously to come and join us, I was really excited

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<v Speaker 1>because I haven't been able to be on air with

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<v Speaker 1>you for in a long time. And you're you're no

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<v Speaker 1>obviously no no stranger to our show. All these guys

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<v Speaker 1>we've done this for many many years, have so good

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<v Speaker 1>to have you man. Thank you. I appreciate that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been just a couple of tenths down from you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but still admiring the work and all that you guys do.

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<v Speaker 1>A heck of a job, and it's it was a

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<v Speaker 1>different avenue for me to go. But it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you guys continuing to just push on the way

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<v Speaker 1>you do and lead the NFL the way you do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny because you guys that don't know Brian, like

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<v Speaker 1>literally he got out here and by day what was it,

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<v Speaker 1>like day two of practice, you're sending me practice knows, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's some things you can watch. I'm like, Brian does

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<v Speaker 1>not change. He always looking out for his teammates. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>always looking out for steammate. I appreciate that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>very sad that this is my last day, you know

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<v Speaker 1>with the station, and you're so used. You get into

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<v Speaker 1>that routine where you you know, you're like, okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, day four, day, five days, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting that routine. Lest they hear, yeah, last day

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<v Speaker 1>for me here. Yeah. The way he said that was,

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<v Speaker 1>is it my last day with the station? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're breaking news, but uh no, but last day, that

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<v Speaker 1>last day, last day with it, you know, and that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it's gonna be sad for me because again,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where I'm gonna have to lean on

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, because you do such a great job of

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<v Speaker 1>covering the team. The way you do it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a standard that's like no other. But yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you you get in that rhythm of practice and

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and talking to people and hey, wait, something happened,

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<v Speaker 1>got to get this source over here, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of you know, doing all that. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the great thing about Camp And just to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>now have to walk away from that with it not

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<v Speaker 1>being over, it's just like it's super sad for me

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<v Speaker 1>because it is it's been such a part of our

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<v Speaker 1>lives now. And uh but Brian's maybe one of like

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<v Speaker 1>four people who says that and actually means it too,

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<v Speaker 1>like most of him and like we all love what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. But by the time you've been here for

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<v Speaker 1>a week two weeks, you're like, yeah, go home sounds

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and Brian's like, absolutely not. What are these

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles doing? Well, yeah, yeah, that's the that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, but I know I'm dealing with some veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys have been ahead of the whole time, the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years of Camp and Oxnard and stuff like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that you just get so used to condition

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<v Speaker 1>to and and when they're out there practicing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the part of I mean even even

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<v Speaker 1>standing in the trench out there, you know where we're

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<v Speaker 1>not on the field, but you still get all that

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<v Speaker 1>that You see the players, you hear the sounds, the coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, saddle up going around the other end and

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<v Speaker 1>watching Dan Quinn coach them up a little bit one

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<v Speaker 1>on one with Randy Gregory and stuff. That's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that helps you, you know, kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>a better understanding of how the season could probably play out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't realize how much you really need that

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<v Speaker 1>until you have a year like last year when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it amen to that and you can really

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<v Speaker 1>feel the difference. Let's jump into the conversation. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days, the news is really revolved around

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. Um he is, he's he left this I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that was on Wednesday. What's the status, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we know about his injury at this point, and when

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<v Speaker 1>can fans expect to maybe see him back. Well, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy was shockingly willing to talk about when he might

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<v Speaker 1>come back. Yesterday, his shoulder sore. He's out of an

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<v Speaker 1>abundance of caution, he's not pushing it. He got an

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<v Speaker 1>MRI in the area Wednesday afternoon. Doesn't look like there's

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<v Speaker 1>any serious problems there. It's a muscle strain. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, and like rightfully, so people are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that could mean a lot of things. He could be

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<v Speaker 1>out for a few weeks. He could you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen the last of him for training camp. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Carthy gets up there yesterday and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll you know, he probably won't throw for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days. And we were even like, what's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days I mean? And he was like, well, where

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<v Speaker 1>I come from, a couple of means like two days

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about. I was like, okay, Mike, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting your name on it, that's fine. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of surprised that he did that, just because

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<v Speaker 1>coaches tend to want to not nail themselves down with

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<v Speaker 1>a specific time. For him, Jason Gear, Yeah, absolutely, ten

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<v Speaker 1>years of that. Yeah, right, you know, it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to The question was posed about was

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<v Speaker 1>this something that had to do with maybe the injury

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<v Speaker 1>of the ankle and him having to change his mechanics.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went into it with somebody about it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>listen that he was like, no, man, he goes. We

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<v Speaker 1>threw all spring, we threw all summer. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of balls. I mean, he you know, he wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>he was chomping at the bit to get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He had you know that my guy was saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy was out there, Nuss Smier was out there, Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>was out there, his own personal guy. This sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>to me a guy that just and we all know

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Dak is not gonna want to sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>just um going to rehab and he'll be okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he is going to push it to the absolute hilt

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<v Speaker 1>and when he could go out there and throw balls,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's in the Dak yard that he's got or

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<v Speaker 1>the or the or on the field, he's gonna he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. And I think what happened is that

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<v Speaker 1>he just really he to ramp up. He just he

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<v Speaker 1>went probably a little too far for himself. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of having to work their way back

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<v Speaker 1>through that good day. Oh. I mean yeah, which to

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<v Speaker 1>that point, a lot of people have suggested that it's mechanical,

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<v Speaker 1>but all through the spring he was basically I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do team, but he was throwing a boatload

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<v Speaker 1>of football. It was. Yeah, Like he gets out at

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<v Speaker 1>the house with with the receivers and backs like every day,

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<v Speaker 1>God knows how many balls they're throwing. Like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time believing like if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical issue, it would have cropped up before he got

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<v Speaker 1>the training. Yeah. I kind of feel like though that

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<v Speaker 1>if if it was something serious, they probably wouldn't allow

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<v Speaker 1>him to do the drills he's doing, because what if

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<v Speaker 1>he just hauls off and just forgets and throws and

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<v Speaker 1>start and throws something and then hurts it even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that he's out there doing a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of those the movement drills and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they have confidence that things will be okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The natural question that comes after that, after you get

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<v Speaker 1>past is he gonna be okay? Is well, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the backup look like? Nick? What have you seen from

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert and Ben Denucci here over these last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days that either make you feel good or make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel not so good? Well, I'm checking that shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>for Dak is what serb over here? Right? Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be fair to to We've seen quarterbacks out here

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<v Speaker 1>that haven't had great practices romo. Um, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what happened with him, Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott another. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about Garrett Gilbert that everybody got excited about

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit was that, you know, he was functional

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<v Speaker 1>against Pittsburgh. He'd only been here a few weeks. He

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<v Speaker 1>was functional. He picked it up, he ran the ball well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he got him into Ben he was thrown

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone to win the game against an

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated team. It didn't happen. So in a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, is he gonna be better? Um? And he

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<v Speaker 1>probably will. And let's see how what happens in games.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get a great job. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>silver lining. I mean, you know, Dak is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>your guy. You don't know about the backup. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get more. They're gonna get real reps because they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get some first team reps and and see what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to run the ball with you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke runs with them or whatever. So I to answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question, they haven't looked great. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what happens when the lights come on and

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<v Speaker 1>they go out. Cooper and Rush never looked great. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Hawaii. He went out and he, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of good drives, and we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the backup. So it's not gonna take much to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be fine. Yeah, I thought. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, what was interesting about that whole thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it was a perfect situation for

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy and the staff. If you think about Dak. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are in the middle of a practice and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, like QB one goes down. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, you know, all of a sudden, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa okay now. And I initially thought that maybe McCarthy was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's talked about well, I've got to I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to manage these reps, these guys. I gotta make

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<v Speaker 1>sure the backups get some reps. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>playing a game where he was gonna give these guys

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<v Speaker 1>some work. But then it then Dak is running towards

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<v Speaker 1>the tent is David Hellman's reporting, and I'm like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not good. It's not just that's what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw it. So then now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm thinking, Okay, something's up. But you're you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, well, man, what a good situation for Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>and these guys to throw him in with the ones

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<v Speaker 1>and see, you know, I'm sure the heart rate was

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<v Speaker 1>going and all that, so you really can't judge him

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<v Speaker 1>on that. But then the second day, when you knew

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<v Speaker 1>that Dak was out, now you can evaluate and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are they are they getting anything? Are they are they

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<v Speaker 1>making throws? Are they making these checks? See, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the real evaluation. Yeah, you can get an evaluation about

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<v Speaker 1>he got thrown into a terrible situation and how do

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<v Speaker 1>you respond. And then the next day it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he had chance, he knew this one. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>if they fail in the chance where they knew, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I think you have a little concern. Garrett Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>has been getting thrown into tough situations since he was

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen years old. When you think about it, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. Yeah, was the Bank of America yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he thinks he threw three touches down. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he was Yeah, he threw three touchdowns. You thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was bad. I mean I say he was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not see the ball going down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see. I didn't I didn't see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately knew what he was talking about, which is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is scary. But America is a sponsor, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are great at what they do. But in a football reference,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the best, right, let's just put that boa.

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<v Speaker 1>But I that was the moment where we just thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking without about all the microphones everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I kind of felt like though, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, let's let's take some shots down the field. Let's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do some of that. I was thinking they

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<v Speaker 1>were not doing that. That's what I'm saying. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was some problems with the offensive line. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't And it wasn't like you know, with Steel

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<v Speaker 1>and Night, the guys you usually want to blame in

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<v Speaker 1>sicky those guys. It wasn't those guys. You know, Collins

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<v Speaker 1>had his issues. I just had his issues. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams had his issue. I mean defensive line played

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<v Speaker 1>on the offensive side of the ball yesterday, and some

0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of those quarterbacks really didn't have much of a choice

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<v Speaker 1>and give the guys in the secondary, I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's funny. Guys. The non padded practices, the offense

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<v Speaker 1>was there was two minute drill, red zone whatever, boom

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<v Speaker 1>boom boom down the field, no problem. We get into

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<v Speaker 1>pads and I think I think the defense has won

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<v Speaker 1>the last three days and pads and that to me

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<v Speaker 1>has been really probably very encouraging. Yeah, it's really encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>for them as well because they need that confidence. I

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<v Speaker 1>think trying to build confidence for his defense makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about the two padded practices, I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>everybody an opportunity. We're gonna go down the row here

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<v Speaker 1>and I want each of you to give me at

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<v Speaker 1>least one observation from what you've seen in the first

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<v Speaker 1>two days of padded practice. The start with you, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's it's so easy to evaluate the

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<v Speaker 1>passing game and the skill players, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>of knowing how it's going to translate. But I've intercepted

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<v Speaker 1>eight passes in the last day. Eight that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot by any standard, but especially this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody on this team gets picks or didn't, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they are like, I mean, you know, Maurice Kennedy, Demante CAZy, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown's had one or two Um Parsons, even Micah Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>So just it's one thing to be in position and

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<v Speaker 1>break on the ball, but to actually make the play

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<v Speaker 1>has been missing from this defense for so long. Like

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<v Speaker 1>just before you worked here, I'm oh, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to I'm not trying to pick on Xavier

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<v Speaker 1>Woods like he was from where he was drafted. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a success story, like he was a good player for

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<v Speaker 1>being a sixth round pick, But like I just think

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<v Speaker 1>of him being in position, getting his hands on the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and then it's clattering around and next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the ground and he's doing push ups. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just clapping make the catch. And they have been.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been making the catch out here. Nick Um, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take the easy one. I mean, Brian's got I know

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<v Speaker 1>Brian can go like fifth level, So I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>Brian get a tougher one. I'm gonna like the easy one.

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<v Speaker 1>Seedee Lamb is the best player on the field by far.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even close. And he is and he is

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<v Speaker 1>as smooth as anybody can be in their second year,

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<v Speaker 1>the first the second year jump he is. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>cover him on the inside outside, I mean he I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen him really going deep having done that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's something about the backups and all that, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I think every ball is his. He's coming down with it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe inbounds, maybe albounds. He's making outstanding plays. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that he is. He is the best receiver on

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<v Speaker 1>the team right now. I think he's having the best

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<v Speaker 1>camp for any player out here. Yeah, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I would. I like what you're saying, though. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the best player I've seen has been Tyrant Smith myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Just watching how you know he's man. People want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that too, Yeah, exactly. And hopefully the health and

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<v Speaker 1>all that takes care of itself. I said it earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking to see who is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>backup defensive ends on this team. I was really worried

0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.040
<v Speaker 1>coming in about Dorance Armstrong. You know, bashing was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in OTAs. But then you say OTAs, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>are we really getting? But Bashing was showing some quickness,

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<v Speaker 1>some explosiveness. I was looking for the rotation of the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles. I've seen some stuff from O DIGGI zuah

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<v Speaker 1>that is really kind of like, okay, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is good. I like what I've seen Bohannah. The young

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<v Speaker 1>guys they're playing, I said this, they're playing on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the line of scrimmage. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what last year if you look at what happened with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and the terrible run defense. You know, running

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<v Speaker 1>back contact was a yard and a half beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. What okay, you know that's got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's been some times. I know, the one run

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<v Speaker 1>they had coming off the goal line yesterday was Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>in a nice run. But for the most part, the quick,

0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.800
<v Speaker 1>elusive Zeke is trying to find spots, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and again it's against the first offensive line. So as

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<v Speaker 1>long as that front seven, you know, vander esh and

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<v Speaker 1>on our show, I get on smith a on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, oh, you gotta get him off the field

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. The linebackers, I think the front seven,

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<v Speaker 1>I think has played very very well and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that to me has been encouraging. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see what happens with Hooker at safety though. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that give him the true free because Wilson will come

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<v Speaker 1>down and knock you sideways. He did it on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the field yesterday, so if they could kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure that out. But I've been kind of impressed with

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<v Speaker 1>that front seven on defense. I mean, that was pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yesterday's practice wasn't that fun. It got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb had a nice catch toward the end, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were like a lot of runs, a lot of dinkin

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<v Speaker 1>and duncan because they were coming off the goal line

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all this four minute stuff. But first run

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Zeke goes off right tackle and like nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody touched him until he was twenty yards down field.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the rest of the day he looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a gazelle trying to get away from a pack of lions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just just surrounded by guys. Every time he

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<v Speaker 1>touches the ball. Well, they talk about wanting to run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. You better figure out what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>with shortlts and Jarwin and those guys. We've seen down

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<v Speaker 1>the field plays from those guys. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Keian O'Neill, who's had was in the non padded practices,

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<v Speaker 1>was awful in coverage. Actually in the one on one

0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff did a much better job of knocking the ball

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<v Speaker 1>loose and stuff. So that was encouraging. But yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy talks about surface and we've sumhaut surface blocking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's man on man at that point of attack, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they they've been losing some surface blocks in this.

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<v Speaker 1>In some of these drills, you look at Keian O'Neill

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<v Speaker 1>and he walks by or see him just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>up close, and you're like, what, how was he ever

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<v Speaker 1>a safety? Yeah, like in the eighties, like you know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I understand, when you get told you're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be a linebacker, you probably build your body

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit different, but not it can't be

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<v Speaker 1>that much that drastic of It's like he was ever

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<v Speaker 1>a safety, Like that's wow, I mean box safety, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean Barry Church was like the box safety.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't look like that. No, not at all. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>to the That was a quick one. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines and Brian. Brian brought a game. We were about

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Brian, take over, let's play your game. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Derek. I appreciate that. You know. I always

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<v Speaker 1>love trying to put you guys. I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>you off the fence. I want to make you have

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<v Speaker 1>some opinions essence of who you are. I mean people,

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<v Speaker 1>people all morning have been like tweeting at me, like yo,

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<v Speaker 1>go get Helm and go get him. You know, boy thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see how this is gonna be fun. I'm ready,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So to the group, I pose these questions

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go. Position group that's made the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>jump in your eyes from the practices you've seen so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be all right. I mean whatever. I'll regret

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<v Speaker 1>these words later. But defensive tackle Nevill Gallimore looks great,

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Bohana looks impressive. Ohso Diggi Zula looks like he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. It's hard for me to say I've seen it. Well, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not even true. Brent Urvan's batted some balls down, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, just I don't know. I feel I feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about that right now, which I wasn't sure I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say you mentioned it earlier. But cornerbacks like

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<v Speaker 1>I did not come into this training camp feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>great about what they had at cornerback, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>so far, even guys I wasn't necessarily expecting anything from

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Kennedy um have shown up and have played really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I would have loved to see them with

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<v Speaker 1>a Mari out there. That's just one more really great

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver that they would have to deal with. But but

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<v Speaker 1>all things being considered, I think this cornerback group has

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<v Speaker 1>far exceeded any expectations I have for them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean know that's gonna contradict what you say, but the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver position from the depth of it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no, it's top heavy, but you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>a Mari being out, I think when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of these receivers on the back end, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be interesting to see how it shakes out

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<v Speaker 1>with special teams. Uh seventeen Turner Turner, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really surprised he even got resigned. He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got phased out of the team last year and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, now he's back. He's playing well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's gonna be tough to keep Noah Brown

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<v Speaker 1>at two billion dollars a year just for special teams

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in the fifth receiver, but you know he's playing. He's

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>played pretty well too. And I know Daklack's thrown to him.

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Has Micah Parsons been the best defensive player in camp. No,

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:19.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's close. It's better Randy m He's been good.

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I think my Mica and he looks great. I've already

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.880
<v Speaker 1>started to eat some crow on that, like, he looks fantastic.

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:31.439
<v Speaker 1>But I do think he still falls into that category

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.919
<v Speaker 1>of he's in a spot where it's a little bit

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 1>easier for him to make splash players from time to time.

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>When you factor in the rushing and some of the

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.240
<v Speaker 1>others fun stuff that they have him doing. I think

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>he's been the most impressive because of you think about

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the learning curve as a good that's a really good point.

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.760
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it's not like Randy's been out

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 1>there a ton either in his five or six years.

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So this is you know, this is great for both

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of them. You guys know it a training camp. You

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 1>tend to take for granted the guys who have been here,

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and not to say Randy's just been here, but you

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>know Randy, right, It's Parsons is something that's new. It's

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 1>like what we're talking about earlier with Tyren Smith, like

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you kind of just take it for granted. Well,

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Tyrn's doing what Tyron does and you don't even think

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>about how great he's been. But he's just doing what

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 1>he does, so so you don't put him in the

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>same category to say a ceede lamb, who's a little

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 1>bit newer, right, um, And so I think it's that

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing like Parsons just newer. And so for me,

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he stood out more because he's newer. But if you

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 1>really evaluate it, I kind of agree it's Randy. Randy's

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>been the guy that's probably been most oppressive defensively. You

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>know what sucks about these games, I don't always don't

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.719
<v Speaker 1>get to answer you. You do get to you just

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like like that's the thing you're asking these questions,

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but if you want to hear your answers. But because

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I say that, because I do it in a way

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that I do believe he's been the best defensive players.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>So if I ask yeah, I means you're kind of thinking, yeah, okay,

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of pick up on what Brian's thinking.

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to kid like he's leading you down

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the past, so you can slam I played Perry Mason

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with you here. I know the answer already as you speak. Okay, guys,

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>does Blake Jarwind need be worrying about his starting job?

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Apparently he does ll yes, Because we've been talking about this.

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I've been a big proponent of fact that I think

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Schultz is just as good, if not better,

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>just my opinion. I just don't care because this is this,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>This isn't Jason Witten. We're talking about, like neither one

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of them is gonna play ninety nine percent of the

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>snaps and never come off the field like they're gonna

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>do some twelve personnel. They can rotate these guys. They'll

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>probably both play north of sixty percent of the snaps

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>or something. Oh maybe not that high, but like they'll

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>both have a healthy percentage. I don't care who's on

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the field for the first snap. I think they're both

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>going to be very involved. It's not really an answer.

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, whatever, Well, I mean it makes sense. It's

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>not like where I'm talking about quarterback or say, it's

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>like the loser of this battle is not gonna be

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on the bench all year. They're both gonna play. Yeah.

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I threw a lot of dirt on Dalton Schultz, by

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the way, to the point where he blocked me on Twitter.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I think we all do not that much. Blocked on

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Twitter by Dalton Schultz. Yeah, I'm the radio. I threw

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of dirt on him, and he had a

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>great season last year for him, and I think the

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>question when I'm talking to people just how how much

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>he could stretch the defense. Yes, he's turned around, he's

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>getting eight and ten twelve yards. That's great first down, right,

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>but can he extend the defense like Jarwin has? And

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>so far we've seen some of that. So if he

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>does that, then yeah, I think it is going to

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>be a tough competition. Okay, I was told this. If

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I told you, when the lights come on, DeMarcus Lawrence

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 1>will be ready to go. How do you feel about that?

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 1>When you you're saying Tampa, yeah, those lights. If DeMarcus

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence doesn't get a game rep until Tampa, I'm I

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>don't care. It's fine with me. He looks he looks

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>fine out there. He looks like he looks a lot slimmer.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 1>He looks slim as hell. He looks like he's in

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>good condition. He's back in a scheme that he's familiar with.

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, he knows what dan Quinn wants from him.

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, would you prefer him to get a little work,

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, But if he's not, if he's not gonna

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>do anything until Tampa Bay, I'm fine. I'm fine with

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that too, But my preference would be go out there,

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>do three or four pass rushes against Jacksonville and get

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>out of there and get ready for the season. There

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of players on this team that I

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>would feel great about them doing nothing until Tampa Bay.

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>He's one of them. I don't worry about DeMarcus, but

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I will outthrow this question back at you, Brian. Yeah,

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what were your thoughts of how because this is something

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a flashpoint for a lot of fans,

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>how DeMarcus played last season. See, I thought that to

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>me when you start talking about complete defensive ends, don't

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>we all focus on the sacks and things like that.

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>We focus on the money. But and I'm not talking

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>about look at pro football focuses numbers and stuff like that.

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>But if you watch how you play, how do you

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>take on blocks, how do you get rid of blocks,

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>how do you make plays you know, tackles behind the line,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>how do you get pressures? You know? How do you

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>run down to play from the backside. These are things

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that if you know you get game passed, you can

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>watch your own eyes. Do you go back and you

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>could watch him and it's like, oh, he didn't get

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the sack, but he forced the guy to make a

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>bad throw. You know, I felt like that, you know.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>He I thought he played really, really, really well. And

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but people are gonna blast him because of the money

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. That's just the way it is. Oh,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have twelve and a half sacks, you know,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and all that. I know, it's a complete player that

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for right here. So be honest with you.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>If he can complete play and Randy Gregory can have

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>all the sacks, I'd be totally okay with Yeah. I'd

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>be totally okay with that. Yeah, that's the DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, man,

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus ware and greg Ellis type combination. Right, Yeah, Yeah,

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I would be. I would like to see Lawrence get

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>some work. I'm a little bit worried about the first

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>game being outdoors in Tampa with the heat and humidity,

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and I worry about wearing down in

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that game and not being in game shape. That's my

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>only concern about him. Not get quarterback is good? Yeah,

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>he yes, it is good. Well, the thing that helps

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>him is they have they're gonna have two weeks back

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas and hopefully hopefully. Yeah, they spend a lot

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of that time outdoors yet used to the humidity, getting

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>used to the heat, because out here is you're not

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>getting no no, this is a perfect place to ever

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 1>practice football. Grass field, it's somewhat grass and then and

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then the outdoors, the conditions and stuff like that. Okay,

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>uh more oppressive Maurice Kennidy or Malik Turner, Andy Kennedynny's

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>really good. I mean Turner Turner has been, you know,

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>good playing and they're both very similar. They're gonna help

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>you one special teams. But if they can show a

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>little bit of their own position to show you know

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that's not just a CJ. Goodwin that they're not going

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to really play out there. But if he can play, Kennedy,

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if he can play, so they're both good. But I

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>go with Kennedy. He's made. He's he's actually stepping in

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>as a starter on the in the slot and he's

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>getting a couple of picks. Yep, he's getting his hands

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>on the football. Which Malik Turner's gotten some run with

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the starters too, because he was fourth and two into practice.

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>The other day they ran sprint ride option with Dak

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and who'd he throw the ball to on fourth and two,

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he looks throw it to Cede Lamb. He threw it

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to Turner on the out He looks for seventeen a

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>lot he does like his first like he probably his

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>best throw a camp to date was like day one,

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>down the far sideline and found Turner on like a

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>crossing route. Is Cedric Wilson safe to make this team? See?

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It feels like we kind of well, wow, that okay.

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Even Derek thinks you're dumb for even asking. Yes. See,

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where I kind of with you on this. I

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>know he's not. He's not allow the money, follow the money.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would be Noah Brown though, right, Noah Brown,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I would be more concerned about him than Cedric Wilson.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>It depends on who bones Fossils wants, Right, that's that's

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna be sure. That's gonna be if you're following the money,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown's the guy you should be. Like, I don't know,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is it two million dollars tender for Wilson? Like two

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>point one I think or maybe one point nine yeah,

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But yeah, I I to me

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>when when we came out here, I was thinking, Okay,

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>do you carry six? Because scouts from office always likes

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to protect the draft. You see, Simmy makes a catch,

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Simmy makes a catchy, Simmy has that mean. Turner's done

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>more things than Simmy heads. So now you're starting to think, Okay,

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they keep five or they keep six, you know, all right,

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>but then which And the thing with Cedric is just

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>he does so much like he's your fourth receiver. It's

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>two for two throwing the ball last year, he sure

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>was has a touchdown pass. He's he's one a on

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>as a punt returner and might even be depending on

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the situation. They'd probably send him out ahead of CD

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>if it was like a situation where they're not looking

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>for a return. He's currently one of your starting flyers

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>on punt punt punt team, like he's out there, so

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>they're expecting a lot of him. And just that versatility

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>makes me think that he's probably safe. And look, no

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>disrespect to Lak Turner, he looks great. But yeah, we

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>do the same, you see, That's what I'm saying. The

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>first thing I thought of was lance Lenore. Yet I

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>thought a Lance Lenore every receiver that's ever. But the

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>thing about Turner, he started three games in the NFL

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in Seattle. I mean he's made starts. He's all the

0:30:54.240 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>way back to Jamaica. Rector, he could do that now,

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 1>he could do that. He could he could go all

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the way back on you. Okay, Uh, would you be

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>okay with with Basham and Armstrong as your backup defensive ends?

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right with that as of now. Yeah, I think,

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>so what other choice do I have? I mean Bradley

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and I Yeah, he's been he's been injured. We're gonna

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>get We're gonna get to Bradley and I. You know this,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff seems to have and not dealing this

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, even the last coaching staff, there's something about

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Dorn's Armstrong that they just kind of like, I think

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and and coaching staff. Yeah, it's one named Jerry can remember.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong's good. Yeah. I mean I just I think that

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a guy that that that they like

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and not Honestly, I don't think he's

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>disappointed on the field. I think, yeah, I played okay,

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think watching him play, I'm more comfortable

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>with that. I was like, I was always really pushing

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>hard for Bradley and I wanted to see because I've

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>seen his tape at Utah. I know Dave's watched his

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>tape at Utah and stuff. I had a lot of

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>hope for him, I really really did. But Armstrong is

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>shown up. I mean they've used him in a couple

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>whether it's right or left. I mean they've run him

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>on some twist games. He's able to get home. He

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>was out in coverage one day exactly. I mean, so

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you know these guys, there's some comfort there. I mean

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him go against Collins and actually have some

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>good reps. So yeah, I'm more comfortable with Basham and

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong than I was because I was searching who is

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be the backup defensive ends. I don't know.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the answer to this, but there's an

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>unhealthy dynamic between what we do with the draft show

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and when you come time for August, because you know,

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you study the draft. Bradley and I as a hell

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of a player, like he's a Senior Bowl MVP. He

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>was a big time player in a major conference. But

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you followed the fifth round for a reason, and it

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of Jabril Cox. You know, steal of the draft,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>played great at LSU, made this jump from North Dakota State,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and like, and then people get frustrated because they're like, well,

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you said he's amazing, why isn't he out here doing stuff?

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, he's behind the twelfth overall pick, the

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>eighteen nineteenth overall pick from a few years ago, the

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>seventy million dollar man, and the pro bowler who came

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta with Dan Quinn, Like, where where do you

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>want him to go? What do you want against grown men?

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It is everybody here is good, right, yeah? And it

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>like I almost like you got to reset your expectations

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>from the for the draft picks. As soon as they're picked,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you're like, we feel really good about this, but like

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>now you're here and it doesn't matter anymore. And that's

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>why I say that, because and and you know, maybe

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Bradley and I'll show something, especially you know, he didn't

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>have a chance to get into preseason games last year.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he'll get out there and just wreck shop. But

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the expectation of people who follow the draft

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>versus the reality they just don't match up. Right now, Well,

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>we talk about what a good pick it was with Cox.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>You get a guy that can cover. We were worried

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>about run defense. That was something coming into camp that

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I was going to keep my eye. How could he play?

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Can he get off blocks? And he? Shit? The problem

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm having with him, he's not even lining up on

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>special teams. He's they're not they're not They're not putting

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>him on the He's a scout team cover guy. He's

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a scout team punt guy. He's not being given a

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunities, not at all. So but that but

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make him a bad pick, not at all.

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Hard to adjust to the end, No, no, but I

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was kind of hopeful that that they would find a

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>way to get him on the field. Yeah, that hasn't

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>happened yet. Okay, speaking of getting on the field, But

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the guys without sponsors, you know that's my thing, right, Yeah,

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>they have to have a sponsor to make these teams sometimes.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Tristan Hill, Reggie Robinson, Bradley and I who's in the

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest trouble of the guys without sponsors? Of the three

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that you just well, why do you why do why

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>don't they have sponsors just because the coaching sta Yeah yeah,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.479
<v Speaker 1>but I mean Will Will and his guys are all still.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>These are the coaches, are the ones that will step up.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>A scout will even tell you. The scouts say, listen,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if we're here. I think Hill has

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>some sponsors. I do. I feel like I've heard his

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>name a lot that the people try to tell me

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>how great he played, like he was a guy, remember

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that the whole thing. Yeah, I thought he played solid

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>last year was coming on. He looked like he was

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>with some go on a little but I mean, he's

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be probably on pop. That's so I was about. So,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I agree with you just from being

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>around I think the interior perception of Tristan is different

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>than the exterior perception. But and this sucks for Tristan,

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>but maybe he's in a situation where he won't be

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>ready anyway, and so it's not even you know, maybe

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you stash him on a list when the season starts.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not he seems like he's still got some work

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to do before he's ready to play, so that that

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>might be well. Robertson's the one guy's plays Robinson shown

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you anything. Yeah, that was the one. I was going

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to say that to me is the way. I think

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>that's the answer to your question, because he's been out

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>there and I really haven't seen much good there. There

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have been plays where I've seen him. He's the guy

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that's that's clapping after the play. But in a corner

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>back group where you got a lot of competition right

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>now and a lot of guys who were making splash plays,

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not one of them. So I think right now,

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>if I had to pick one of those three, I

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>would say it would be him because I just haven't

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>seen him do anything that a lot of other guys

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>this position are doing. I think the same applies to

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>an eye, and I agree with you about Reggie. I

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>think the same applies to an eye for the same reason, Brian,

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>just like I think Dorn's Armstrong and Terrell Basham are

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>going to be on this team right and obviously so

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>are Randy and Tank and now, so that's for right there.

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 1>How many are you gonna keep? And don't forget about

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Jahncy Golston. They're not cutting a third round pick. I

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>don't care what he does out here, They're not gonna

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>cut him. You know. Reggie, Robinson, Bradley and I they've

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>played as many preseason games as we have, you know,

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>so they they your point, want them to kind of

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>see that they haven't gotten that opportunity. They're going to

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna, they're gonna get out there. So it's but

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>how many for Robinson, how many special teams players can

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you keep that are kind of special teams? I think

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Goodwin's making it, Kennedy's probably making it too, you know,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and and then Noel Brown on that side, or Turner.

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>It's such a sorry, it's such a relief to know

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>we have these games though as like last year, this

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 1>would not this is not a premature conversation last year,

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>because this is just all we have to go on.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Right to go back to Lance Lenore, you know, he

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 1>was he was the stud of camp for like two

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>years running and until they put him in back there

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams to feel punch, so they put him

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in a game. Period. And so our opinions are going

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to drastically change from Canton from Phoenix and hopefully for

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the better, but maybe for them. All that takes is

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>one sack by Bradley and I absolutely screaming off the edge,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just you know, just bury some quarterback and on and

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll be in here Monday and somewhere else. He's on

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 1>the team. Rad Sham brought up George Selvey the other

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>day because like he made the team because of what

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 1>he did in the Hall of Fame game. I mean

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that was eight years ago, but that stuff matters. Selvey.

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're going to take our final break. When

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>we come back. I want to get some opinions from

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys, particularly Brian, before you head out of training camp.

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go through the positions and I'm gonna have

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys give you a little bit of a position updates,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>some things that they may have learned about the positions

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in the practices that have happened so far, or maybe

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>some things that have kind of heightened there are the

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.759
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<v Speaker 1>Life from Oxnard, California. We're talking Cowboys football. We got

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<v Speaker 1>our guy Brian brought us here with us this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to here in the last segment, give

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<v Speaker 1>you guys kind of a general overview of what these

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<v Speaker 1>guys have seen, and we're gonna break it down by positions,

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and really where I want you to focus here is

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you a position or a group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you guys to tell me something you

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<v Speaker 1>think you've learned about that group that you didn't know

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>coming in, or something that you've kind of just noticed

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that's starting to pique your interest in a particular player

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>or a position group. Let's start first with running backs

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>and fullbacks. Brian, you up. Yeah. I think the thing

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>is that they're trying to find ways to incorporate more

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of Tony Pollard onto the field. And I think that's

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 1>a good thing, and it's not something that happens all

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the time, but it's just not the normal Okay, go

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in there and spelled Zeke. It's like it's like Zeke

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>on the field Pollard, whether it's split slot, I mean, backfield.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to find ways. This team's did a really

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>good job. I felt like the screen passes that they've run,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they've been able to kind of shake him loose and

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Zeke loose a couple of different times. This coach has

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a history of playing with a fullback, which is interesting.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, he doesn't have a John Coon or somebody

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like that here that he's had in the past. But

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see if, in fact they do try

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and carry one or find one to bring in. But

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I do like what I've seen with the two running

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>backs and how they've been able to corporate both those guys.

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy actually had a really interesting quote yesterday. He was

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>asked about keeping a fullback, and he talked a lot

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 1>about how much more they want to run a two

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>back offense this year, and he was talking about it

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in the context of having a fullback. But I was

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.400
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about Pollard the whole time he was talking,

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>because I think that's that's one of the most important

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>challenges for his coaching staff this year, is to find

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>ways to have him be a bigger part of this thing,

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>because he needs to be. And I mean, you know,

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I know Zeke's gonna be the bell cow and he

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>should be. I'm looking at Pollard's snap counts from last

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>year and other than the game that Zeke didn't play,

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>it hovered between like twenty two and thirty three, and

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's gotta be that's gotta be more. And so

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's that's like line one for Kellen

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Moore honestly, because like we I mean, Amari and Lamb

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and got like all those guys are gonna be out there,

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>but you got to find a way to use that

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>more often as you've got nine guys that are going

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>to be out there a lot. Five five Lineman, dak

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>zeke uh and then I would say CD and Cooper.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's nine. What do they do with those other spots?

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what? What what are they gonna do with?

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it two tight ends? Is it one tight end

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and gallop? It's is it Gallop and Pollard? Is it

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a fullback? That's the key Schulton in that in that

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>mix two. So um, you know, I don't know if

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that really answers your question, but I do think that

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's going to be the key is where do

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they can they can run the ball

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the most or just move the offense. You know, he

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>said he wants thirty thirty plus rushes a game. Well,

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you know that's really on Kellen Moore. In this offense,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>they've struggled out of the gate. The best way to

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 1>get a lead is to score in the first half,

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and you struggle early, then then you're you're, you know, you're,

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you're always playing the scrambling from behind. So I think

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>preparation from Wednesday to Saturday needs to be better. That

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>starts with Kellen Moore. That starts with the offense. They've

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>got to be better to get leads early in the

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>game so they can run the ball. You're going to

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>your point about who they're gonna put out there. I

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna vary by the game. They talked a

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>lot about there and though that opening press conference. They

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.919
<v Speaker 1>want to play match up football, and so every week

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they want to be able to go in and say

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>where can we get our best matchup? So there maybe

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>some weeks where twelve personnel is there is their great

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>matchup for that week. There are other weeks that they

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>can use Tony Pollard a lot. So I think it'll

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>vary from week to week and you'll see a different

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>guy kind of stepping into an X factor role if

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>you want to put it like that. Each week. Oh,

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right. I hope it's I hope you're right.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope it anges every week and it's not just

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>we do what we do. Well, that's the way they're talking.

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if it actually turns out like that. All right,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>let's move on to the wide receiver. I'm gonna say

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver slash tight end. Give me something that you've

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>either notice or something that you're you know that you

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you think you've learned about that position group. Nick I

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioned receivers earlier as a as a spot that I

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>thought that they've got some depth. They're gonna have some

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>good decisions to make. We know in the preseason game,

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna, you know, catch our eye a little bit more.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean anxious to see some of those guys at

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the back end they're gonna get to play. M Mitchell

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Osirius Mitchell fourteen eighty, Brandon Smith. I'd like to just

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>see see those guys. I think they've got something, as

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Devil point out, and he's not wrong. We see this

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>every year. There's always going to be a guy or

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>two like that. But but I am anxiously because they

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>they went with a theme when they signed these free agents.

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like you've played basketball at some point in your life,

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you can definitely duncan alley. You've got big, tall, strong guys,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and so that's the targets that look before. Let's see

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>how they playing games, right, Yeah, I think I'm gonna

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>focus on the tight end aspect. They've got three guys

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that are all downfield players and including McKeon

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in there, you know who is going to be the

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>blocker of this group if there is a commitment to

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to run the football and trying to have that

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>surface I'm talking about and trying to be point of attack. Yeah,

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly sprinkled. Ye see, that's what I'm saying that that

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that's who is that guy? I think they've got guys

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that are that are catchers. I don't think they have

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>any blockers, and so you know they got it thirteen personnel. Yes,

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they put three tight ends out there and still got

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>knocked back. You know, you can't have that. And so

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>if there's a commitment, they're either they're gonna have to

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>work the waiver wire, claim a guy whatever. But man,

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>they do not have any blockers currently on this team.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>They play tight end. There's an answer there, just don't

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>run thirteen personnel. It sucks, it's bad. It's the worst

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>personnel grouping in the in football, So don't do it. Um,

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give some love to the Michigan man. How

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>about Sean mccun like ever, I mean, and Chelton jar

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>would have looked good, but so is he. He made

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>He made the catch of the day yesterday, one handed

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>diving catch. They use him a lot, you know, the

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the dak waggle roll out and just kind of chuck

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it to the tight end coming across the flat, and

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>he's been doing a lot of that. Um. He made

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the team as an undrafted free agent last year. I

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna make it again, which I guess I

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't think was a given when I got here. But

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he sure looks like he belongs on the roster. To me,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>thirteen personnel that really, it pisses me off when they

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>do that because they just put the tight ends in there.

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, it's like you're just you're You're like, yeah,

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>let's get in my phone booth. I don't want to

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>play a phone. You guys watch UFC, No, not really.

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't really watch that much either, but I know this.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I know this. No, I mean, I've seen it enough

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to know. You got strikers. You got guys to get

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>on the mat and wrestle. If that's not your thing,

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're not really a good wrestler, then don't get

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>on the mat because somebody's gonna beat you. And that's

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what they do. They say, we're gonna bunch everything in

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and go going big. But guess what our three tight

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>ends are Shultz, McEwan and Jarvion, and they're not big,

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so they get pushed back. Why don't we spread them

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>out and go you. I could blob it up to CD.

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>We all seen in the video what CD can do.

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Cooper can do this. We can spread it out, or

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>we can run our quarterback up the mental Yeah. To

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>your point, though, Nick, if you're gonna put a tight

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>end out there that can't block, go in, put Pollard

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>out there right, just then open it up that way.

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>This team should be like, make the defense go small.

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Stop enough of this. It drives me crazy that NFL

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>teams refuse to run ten personnel. Honestly, get four receivers

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>out there, make the defense go tiny to handle all

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of them. Then give the ball to zeke and watch

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>him bulldoze the cornerbacks that are trying to tackle them. Like,

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, this doesn't seem complicated to me. To me,

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>says tiny Jim. Exactly. We heard it here first. All right,

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>let's move on offensive line, Dave, oh shoot, offensive line.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Offensive line. Um, they're the guys in front, thank you,

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>yes guy? Yeah, Um, I've been. I was. I was

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.879
<v Speaker 1>bullish on the tackles, being healthy all year. So like

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel, I feel good that they are. I know,

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>tyrants sitting out right now, but I don't care about

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that yet yet. Being the operative word. Um, I guess

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I, me and Nick both have been

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 1>beating the drum all spring of like what why don't

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>they have any other centers? What the hell's going on?

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And so it's been interesting to watch Connor cross train

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>there and Brian's trying to fire be honest, already like

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a weekend to camp. He wants Connor playing center. I'm

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>not ready to go there yet, but I do think,

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, he looks natural at it for a guy

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that had never done it until maybe two months ago.

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not ready to say that's a position battle,

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but I I feel like by the time we get

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to the season, I feel like that's it's nice to

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>know he can do that. I'm kind of waiting for

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>all five of these offensive linemen to play together. Have

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 1>we had a practice if I mean, I know, initially

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we the yeah, like the first the first two or three,

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden it became the day

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and then no, not exactly, it was all yea, so

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that there. But I will say this, I think they're

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>in the same spot they were last year as far

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>as those backups. If they have to play with those guys,

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.319
<v Speaker 1>they're in trouble. I'm just gonna be honest with you here.

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Titan and Sicky can play as a

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle. I really don't. I think he's too slow footed,

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's where it's gonna happen. Maybe it's

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna be, oh, we're gonna have to kick Zach Martin over,

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.439
<v Speaker 1>or oh we're gonna have to kick Connor Williams out,

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>or oh we're gonna have to do something else. But man,

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they talk about the whole thing with steel in the

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>weight room and improvement. You could have fooled me, you know, really,

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you could have fooled me. And you know, but that's

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>why I was. I was expecting that him and night.

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, an off season. You know, hey, we're not

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We're not closing down the weight room anymore. Get in there,

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, and maybe they have. They keep talking about

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>they got in there, and then you watch it's not translating.

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>All the little awards that we're getting for being strong

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>man in the weight room is not translating to how

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>we're playing on the practice field right now. I don't

0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>disagree with that. I yeah, to tell you how thought

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it looks pretty good actually on the right side. No,

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I saw a couple of plays, um, but I just

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like, man, I'm excited about that they actually kept

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>playing them. You know. It's it's one of those things

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't like it necessarily at the time, but

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because they did, and it got him a high draft pick,

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>not just because of him, but they kept playing that,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, that mindset, and they lose, they lost games.

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>They got a high draft pick, and they got parsons

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And now you're sitting with a

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>guy that maybe a swing tackle maybe and he's got

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or sixteen game, fifteen games under his belt. He

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>will see what he does in the in the preseason.

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, he was a guy that played okay

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>at times, but when he had bad moments like Dad

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>got hurt and you know, got hit and fumbled, they

0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>lost the game against the Rams, or they had him

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>fumble changed the game against the Browns. So you can't

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>have those. I'm gonna do my broadest impression real quick.

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you a question as Steel played on the

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 1>left side at all at this camp. I have not

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>seen him on the left side, which is interesting, neither

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of us. It's not very swinging, is it, know. And

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and they've also and what they've done is they've also

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>kicked Night in playing more guard. I think, yeah, if

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you talk, you talked to the guys in the front office,

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I think Night's a better guard. But oh Diggy, the

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>two sacks he's had have been against Night on the

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>swim move right through the middle of the pocket, So

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just feel like they're kind of in

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the same shape. Well, and I was kind of had

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>some hope about Ball. I had some hope about Ball,

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't seen anything from Ball that makes makes me.

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>But he's gonna play in all these preseason games. He's

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna he's gonna get a letter jacket play in this preseason.

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You're such a jerk. I do think I do think

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>thinks looked pretty good. I think mcgoverness looked fine. I mean,

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm trying to say if they have to

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>play with one of these tackles, I hear it. But

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins has had some problems too now and in

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a way that I'm like, you know, is it rust

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that he looks lighter, he's moving? But man, give the

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>defensive ends some credit for the way they've kind of

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>come after these gutters defensive line, Nick oh Um, A

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of questions there at the tackle position. Um, you know,

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>they just got a lot of numbers we didn't know

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>going in. We've kept our eye on Bohannah. You have

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Bohannah going to Canton next weekend, staying Canton. They're gonna

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>make But I have scouts agree with you. By the way,

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Dan dan quinn said when they drafted him,

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:32.239
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play right here and maybe right here, you know,

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just right over the center. I don't think that's been

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the case. No, I think they they've been able to

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>move him like a tackle because he moves well. One

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of those one of those screens I was talking about

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 1>that they've been running pretty well. It's like they went

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 1>full flow to his right and they tried to sneak

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Zeke the other way and he's like, I'm gets rid

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>of the honest and goes and get Zeke in the

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>battlefield right there. And that's to be fair to Dan Quinn,

0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I think our man has lost like thirty five draft

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 1>on tape. You don't see on tape this guy. You

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 1>see a three hundred and fifty pound guy going up

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and dominating Vanderbilt's middle of the line. But they'll be

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 1>or because that's where he did. He did like all

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>his highlights. Well, he wasn't just you know, going back

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>there against Alabama and whatever. I mean he was he was.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>He got jam And Davis, who the football team took

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it in the first on. That linebacker from Tucky's really good.

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean he got him drafted because he was able

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to free run and make a lot of play. Joseph

0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe and the corner like I don't the cornerbacks have

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:30.879
<v Speaker 1>looked fine, and they've obviously like they've gotten their hands

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:32.879
<v Speaker 1>on a lot of balls, like I'm not ready to

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>make this leap that I think that they look amazing yet.

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 1>But we talk about cornerbacks about but I'm bringing it

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>back to the first segment when Derek said, the cornerback

0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of taking. But I'm like, I just

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, like there's I've seen basically everybody along that

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:54.760
<v Speaker 1>front do something encouraging. Bohanna looks amazing. Might be a stretch,

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>but Bohanna looks really good. No, not, no, he's not.

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Because if you're just Leary Urban, that's what I want

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to He hasn't, which I mean, he's made some plays,

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 1>but I will say it's honestly, it's the guy that

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>we all rode off the minute he got here that's

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>been doing most of that is Carlos Watkins. Everybody was

0:54:14.600 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>like this bub from Houston, he'll get cut, and he's

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the he's the starting one tech right now. The pro

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.319
<v Speaker 1>guys had a bad year last year. Year before they

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>did a great job with the Quinn trade and all

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that made that work. They had a bad, bad evaluation

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>period last year. All those defensive linemen they brought in

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>world busts, you know, and so you know, yeah, if

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they can with bash him. You know, Urban, those guys.

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm still waiting. I thought when the Pads

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 1>came on that Urban would be more He's he's you know,

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>he's knocked down a couple of passes and stuff like that.

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But I thought he would be more of a powerful guy.

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But it has been I'll tell you, Neville Gallimore has

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 1>been a guy that all of a sudden, you talk

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>about a guy that the light bulb has kind of

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>come on for him. The body looks good, the mobility

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.399
<v Speaker 1>looks good. The way he's getting up the field, he's

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:01.720
<v Speaker 1>been hard to lock, you know, you guys. He gets

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>guys on their heels. I think that's been a real

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 1>positive sign there. It makes me nervous because he wears

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the same number as Malik, and I mean, I'm oh, no,

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I had that. I had visions of every vision to MALIEK. Collins,

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like kind of going well against Frederick and then going

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>well against Martin, and then you learned that Frederick is

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>not all there, you know of a thing, and so yeah,

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that's that's part of It's tough. Every year. I came

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 1>out here and thought Malik was about to be a

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>pro bowler, but that's I mean, that's how that Neville

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>looks fricking awesome. I hope it actually translates for him.

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Linebacker our favorite position. Uh, Mike, Mike is a stud.

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I was, I was. We were both down on the pick.

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I think me and Brian both probably would have taken

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Rashawn Slater. Yeah, is it a position I would Yeah,

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I would have taken Rashaans later. But I wasn't down

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>on the pick because I thought he could be a

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>good players like Slater. And then Bolton was availed to Missouri.

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Linebacker was available in that second round, and I was

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of thinking, oh, wow, you could have got that

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>guy in a shorter linebacker that could tackle and run. Yeah,

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that seemed like to be That was a kind of

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a dan Quinn fit. Mister four or seven from Missouri

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>can't do what Mike is doing out here. There's no

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 1>question he's making He's making me look bad for not

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was a super talented guy. But I'm

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 1>just like, is this too high for an off ball linebacker?

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's what makes him so exciting, is he smiling

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 1>off ball linebacker. He's doing a lot of other stuff,

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>his GP, his GPS stuff, is off the charts. I'm

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 1>sure when they go back and they're like, Okay, who's

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>got the highest movement of all that, it's it's him.

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Every day there's corners that run a lot and receivers

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that run a lot. I guarantee he's his right almost

0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>off the charts. And the funny thing too, I was

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about this at practice with somebody yesterday. He I mean,

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>all these guys are huge and impressive and incredibly good athletes,

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>but like, he doesn't look like Superman, you know, like

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Layton and Jalen look like action figures. They're like, oh,

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean we say this all the time. I'm like,

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 1>if Jalen's first guy off the bus, especially when he's

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in uniform with the chrome visor and the sweatpants, he's

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>first guy off the bus. Mica doesn't look that physically

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>impressive compared to those guys, but he's sure as hell

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>moves impressive, like, way more impressive than anybody else. And

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes me wonder, put this dude into weight program

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>next year. Imagine what he's gonna look like. This show

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>up looking terrifying. Yeah, yeah, I think you did say that.

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 1>A couple of ships. Well, he I tell you one

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>time I was watching the one on one pass or

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 1>shirt two verse two, and he dropped down and took

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a rep as a defensive tackle. Yeah, I went, he's okay,

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>listening around the air, He's impressive, very impressive, nick linebacker. Um,

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Jalen Smith make a play. I haven't.

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>You guys have maybe seen more plays. I haven't seen

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>him really go out and go wow, okay, that was

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a good play. I see him in coverage of little

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I see him high five in people. I

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>see him kind of there, right, But I don't necessarily

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 1>see the play, you know, And now I get it.

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 1>He is a physical player when he wants to be.

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>When he wants to go downhill and hit people, he can,

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't got to see that. So you know,

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you might see a little bit more physicality. And I

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>think dan Quinn's gonna get him in position. But um,

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to talk good about him. I

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 1>think I think we kind of decided, hey, let's let's

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>just let things play out. We don't need to trash

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy. But he's just not making a lot of plays.

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>He's not and he doesn't help himself with some of

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the things he says, it's just it's it's tough. You

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to kind of look for the good stuff,

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and I just haven't really seen any. Yeah, I think

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Nick's onto something. I think dan Quinn's gonna figure out.

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be part of what they're doing. But what

0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>happens when you watch him play, especially in coverage, he

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>immediately has to grab, He immediately has to tackle to

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>slow the receiver up so he can put himself in position.

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:00.919
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna look get that and tape. They're

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, Okay, we can't put him on the field

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>and coverage situations. I think when it's talks about down

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>down and distant stuff that he probably won't be on

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:10.919
<v Speaker 1>the field very much. I think there'll be some things

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>they have him in the rotation, but overall, I think

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, hey, a little bit of a liability and coverage,

0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 1>we need to keep Parsons on the field, we need

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep band resh. Those guys have been outstanding us

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about all the round players, both those guys

0:59:22.560 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 1>first and ten. Though first and ten, the first time

0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks take the field, will he be on the field.

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you don't care if he comes off, well,

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it depends on if the Bucks go eleven personnel and

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>try and spread you out kind of a thing, which

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>they will. No, I need them to go heavy and

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>give it to Leonard if they if they go heavy,

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 1>then then yeah, he'll be on the there's a little

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>banging on. It's not gonna matter because places eating Tampa

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>by the way, because NBC when they are on the field,

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and even if it's'll probably be a second

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>or third down there, it looks look at that Cowboys

0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:59.080
<v Speaker 1>defense and he's gonna be like smooth Notre Dame and

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna that's a good point. Yeah, No, I he

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>just needs to have the little star next to his

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:06.440
<v Speaker 1>name on Pro Football Reference when the games a star.

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.680
<v Speaker 1>That's all. That's all. He didn't matter if he gets

1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>three snaps, he could play one as long as it's

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the first one. All right, fair enough, Let's go on

1:00:15.080 --> 1:00:17.680
<v Speaker 1>real quickly, you real quick? Uh the infore me in

1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the show. Let's get the secondary. Give me something you've

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>noticed about the secondary or something you've learned about the secondary? Um,

1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, which you know he's he's he is now

1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>in a battle with Malie Cooker and maybe they brought

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 1>him in because they're not impressed on tape. You know,

1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>tape and what we see at field levels totally different.

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But I'm amazed by Demante Casey just just being out

1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:42.360
<v Speaker 1>there again, like we said that in the spring, just

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:45.240
<v Speaker 1>being as ready to go as he is, and like

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like he's on a veteran schedule. He's

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>not taking off days. He's doing everything and by the

1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:53.600
<v Speaker 1>way he's making plays. He picked six dak the other day.

1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:58.160
<v Speaker 1>He had another pick against Gilbert yesterday. Uh. And it's

1:00:58.200 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>fun because we get to watch from the end zone

1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of watch, you know, if you

1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>go back and watch these videos we take from practice,

1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you can see Casey identify what's going on, make the

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 1>read step in front of the ball. So that's exciting. Now,

1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I had no expectations for that guy whatsoever. I

1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:18.160
<v Speaker 1>think they gave him one hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. That's

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:23.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing that is we don't. Yeah, let's give it a shot,

1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and if it doesn't work out, nobody cares. But like

1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>he looks good out there, and I didn't think that

1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 1>might be the case. I think when you look at cornerback.

1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:34.280
<v Speaker 1>It's the one position that you can say I mean again,

1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>it goes pretty deep, but you can say this, these

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 1>guys will be on the fifty three if they're healthy.

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, one to seven. I think it's pretty easy

1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to go seven corners. Now. I know they're gonna be

1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:49.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of special teams guys. But you know, Anthony Brown,

1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis and digs and then you've got the two

1:01:54.280 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 1>draft picks, and I think they're both gonna make it

1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.960
<v Speaker 1>go with Joseph and the Sean right and then Kennedy

1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and CJ. Goodwin our corners, but they're also gonna be

1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 1>special teams guys. Cannedy showing he's given me more than that.

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:08.480
<v Speaker 1>What about a guy like Deontay Burdon. He's been out

1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there a lot, They've been playing him a lot. I know.

1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I just he made plays in the OTAs in mini camps.

1:02:14.200 --> 1:02:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't noticed him as much in these practices and

1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:18.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I think Nick's you guys are on

1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:21.480
<v Speaker 1>about the seven. That means you're gonna have to go

1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 1>light somewhere else? Did he go light at linebacker? Can

1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you go light at defensive line? Can you go light?

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean you go probably light at quarterback, they'll probably

1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 1>keep two. But if you're gonna keep that extra special

1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:33.439
<v Speaker 1>teams that bones Fossil is gonna get his three core

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.320
<v Speaker 1>special teams guys to go along with the three guys

1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that he's got already the snapper, the kicker, and the punter. Yeah,

1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to find another spot for something to

1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:42.919
<v Speaker 1>take to be able to get one of those guys

1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:47.000
<v Speaker 1>on breaking Like the secondary gives me anxiety, just like

1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:49.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what to do with that that's

1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:52.280
<v Speaker 1>playing better though they had, but they have been playing

1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.800
<v Speaker 1>better that I was thinking that. And I've talked about

1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the safety being a mess position even you know, even

1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the Thompson had an interest an overthrown did so, you know, Yeah,

1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm anxious to see Hooker because I think Hooker

1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and Wilson what I know about Malik Hooker playing in college,

1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just I'm praying that comes back to that guy.

1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:14.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a guy that plays with range. He was one

1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of the best defensive players I scouted in that draft.

1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping his health is okay and he can play

1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:21.880
<v Speaker 1>with that range, play in the middle, play off the

1:03:21.920 --> 1:03:24.560
<v Speaker 1>hash helps him the coverage, walk down and covering the

1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:26.400
<v Speaker 1>slot if he has to, those are all things you

1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>need him to do. Talk about wearing that twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's that's maybe. Actually this is a conversation. I

1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:35.600
<v Speaker 1>did have a conversation a little bit with Darren yea as.

1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I texted him and he like five days later responded.

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<v Speaker 1>But I texted him the picture of twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not okay with this. Nobody is.

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<v Speaker 1>He finally texted me back and he was like, it's typical.

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Woodson only cares about really one thing. He's like, ha,

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<v Speaker 1>can he play? Yeah? Right, I don't care, but he played. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we time will tell. Yeah, he needs to stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is capable of living up to it absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>which is they used to. They've been given that number

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<v Speaker 1>out the scrubs for the last few years. At least

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<v Speaker 1>Malie Hooker's got some pedigree. He sure does. Wait, so

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, I know we got in the show. Do you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about this somebody yesterday. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Kasey and Hooker can both make this team? Doesn't that

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<v Speaker 1>seem kind of redundant to you? Yeah? Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you if if Kazy. It's funny to me because

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<v Speaker 1>Casey's so small, but he could probably play a better,

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<v Speaker 1>be a better maybe a cover guy or something. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think so. I mean both, they're

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<v Speaker 1>both gonna be the free They can't play strong. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. They're not gonna play a ton of special teams.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I think Casey looks so good is

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<v Speaker 1>because he knows what dan Quinn's gonna call. When dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn makes a call, he totally understand Abel's has to think.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have to think. But I also think you

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<v Speaker 1>got to remember to day, like the reason why Hooker's

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<v Speaker 1>out there is because injuries have all have been an

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<v Speaker 1>issue for him. So so if you do I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if this team is I think, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they can be shortsighted and say, well, if looker

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<v Speaker 1>looks good, we're good. Yeah. I think they got a say,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta make sure we got a good as good

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<v Speaker 1>equality as we can get as a backup. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to hand the job to anybody. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think we just had this conversation about you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where these roster spots are going to come from.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're kind of the same player like, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a they it's specialized. Like you're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of special team snaps out of them. They can't.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna play strong. It's not gonna be some

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<v Speaker 1>Cazy's playing against Zeke all the time, Like he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play strong. Yeah, it's not gonna hurt them to

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<v Speaker 1>cut CAZy if they have two. Money wise, sure they

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<v Speaker 1>might have to play Wilson on special teams a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. You know, he's kind of a starter, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can play it. You can do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I don't want to ask one thing before

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<v Speaker 1>we get going here do We got two hours, so

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get going. Brian, I don't think we really

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it when we start the show, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tell tell the fans kind of where where you are now,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing, where they can find you. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna at one oh five three the fan and we're

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<v Speaker 1>the radio partner with the team. So m really fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that way to get to come around and do stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited about working with Brad Champ too, doing

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason games as well. Be on with the Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jackson Houston Jacksonville games. Babe and Brad had the call.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you can listen to us. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on two to seventh Central every day. We have

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<v Speaker 1>an app called the Odyssey App. We're owned by Odyssey

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<v Speaker 1>and you could go back if you you know, want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and listen to us. We did three

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<v Speaker 1>live mics. We were on the field, we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. So yeah, but we're we're the

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<v Speaker 1>we're the official station of the Cowboys, So give us

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<v Speaker 1>a listen. Well, g back Nation two to seven every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>really good show. Thank you and uh, well, appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>join us. Man, thank you for having me back through

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we'll do it sometime later this year. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get I'll do that. And good luck to Bennett brought us.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been running around the camps here for years. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a starting quarterback. Here we go. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see how it all go. Yeah, thanks all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Johns. We'll be back on Sunday till then

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<v Speaker 1>for Nick Eatman, Dave Helmt, Brian brought us. I'm Derek Eagleson.

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