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Speaker 1: Welcome on and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean covid to Hope. Wherever you are and

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Speaker 1: wherever you were listed, and you were having a great

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Speaker 1: week so far. It's at weeks are more fun when

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Speaker 1: they're filled with braves wins, and that's what we've been

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Speaker 1: able to see. Mendelson home runs, the offense, having fun,

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Speaker 1: just an absolute offensive outburst in our nation's capital. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Comen is always here with my podcast

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Speaker 1: partner Steven Tober, and I will put the disclover out there.

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Speaker 1: I have not one hundred percent tonight. Please forgive the

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Speaker 1: voice and for that reason, I'm gonna let my podcast

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Speaker 1: partner take the raids. One of the best when it

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Speaker 1: comes to cover the braves, Steven tom Good to always

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Speaker 1: do these with you, sir, Hope you bid well?

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Speaker 2: Good CD again, what's up, buddy. For those who don't know,

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, our man Sean has been very sick

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Speaker 2: the last week. And I mean this is like a

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan flu game type situation we have going on

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Speaker 2: right now. My guy's just gutting it out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just a pros pro you know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, this is why is the best

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Speaker 1: podcast partner the year?

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Speaker 2: And this is like this is inspirational movie type stuff. Rocky,

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Speaker 2: you know, Seabiscuit and Sean Coleman. You know, those are

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Speaker 2: think of. So, yeah, it has been a fun week. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's been a fun week as long as you're not

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Speaker 2: hoping the Braves lose games. I guess there are that

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Speaker 2: there is that segment of fans that we're really hoping

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Speaker 2: for losses. The Nationals bad just turned out to be

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Speaker 2: substantially worse than the Braves bad. The Nationals, God bless

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Speaker 2: the Nationals.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: They fired everybody early in the season because the rebuild

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Speaker 2: has not been going well, and you can kind of

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Speaker 2: see the evidence of that. They not only lost to

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Speaker 2: the Braves this weekend, they got demolished in a way

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Speaker 2: and the Braves still have three more games with the Nationals,

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Speaker 2: by the way, So yeah, the chances the Braves having

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Speaker 2: Braves are more than likely going to be in like

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Speaker 2: the lottery odds. They can still get a top pick.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's a lottery. But but yeah, it's been fun

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Speaker 2: watching the Braves hit Herdson Waldrip had a pretty decent

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Speaker 2: start after a rough one that Brad and I were

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, buddy, it's good to be back on

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Speaker 2: with you. You're an inspiration to an entire country and

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Speaker 2: we love you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind of words. But of course, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: want to take it out of context. There is very

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Speaker 1: But at the very least it is relevant. You'd much

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Speaker 1: But it's been a month or so. It's been the

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Speaker 1: past four or five weeks where it's the news, the

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Speaker 1: know today that more than likely, John Carlos Laura, a

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Speaker 1: name that you know has really gained recognition familiarity in

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Speaker 1: I felt, you know some at least myself. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like I'm I'm a prospect guy

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Speaker 1: Because of how good at times Laura looked last year

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Speaker 1: Definitely not a Kiber level, But there hasn't been many

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Speaker 2: Yep. So obviously we're not prospect guys. We don't pretend

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Speaker 2: he's gotten more and more name recognition. He was in

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Speaker 2: Obviously the Braves wanted him to develop a little more

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Speaker 2: So he's one of the Braves better prospects. The dude

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Speaker 2: But if you have control problems in the miners, once

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Speaker 2: So it's probably gonna go poorly a little bit. We're

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Speaker 2: It's not as bad as Diddy or Fuintees because Fintes

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's the type of arm that could

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Speaker 1: When it comes to relievers who throw near one hundred

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Speaker 1: John Carlos Laura can have one of the best of

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Speaker 1: And we talk about the Braves being able to find

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Speaker 1: With Laura, they took a different path. They went with

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Speaker 1: it could pay big dividends both next year and potentially

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is a very good point. Like this

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Speaker 2: guy has been a pretty much a pure reliever prospect

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Speaker 2: his entire career with the brain like they don't there's

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Speaker 2: no there's no talk about being a starter. I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mechanism some fans may not know about.

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Speaker 2: the sixty il is the is the place that teams

430
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Speaker 2: put players when obviously they're going to be out for

431
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Speaker 2: a long time, but they want to clear a forty

432
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Speaker 2: man roster spot so they can add somebody who's healthy back. Well, obviously,

433
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Speaker 2: the the you know what happens is at the end

434
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Speaker 2: of the year, the sixty day il goes away, so

435
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Speaker 2: all of those guys who got taken off of the

436
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Speaker 2: four forty man roster have to be put back on

437
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Speaker 2: by the time we get to the off season. So

438
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go through the names so everybody knows

439
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Speaker 2: because it's it's actually incredible the number of guys the

440
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Speaker 2: Braves have on the sixty day al. So it's Jake Frayley,

441
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Speaker 2: it's Austin Riley, Sean Murphy, it's a j Smith Shawber,

442
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Speaker 2: It's Spencer Swollenbach, Ronaldo Lopez, Joejamenez, Grant Holmes, and Aaron Bummer.

443
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Speaker 2: And in order to get Laura on the forty man tomorrow,

444
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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if they put another guy

445
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Speaker 2: on the sixtyd al tomorrow. So that's a bunch of guys,

446
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: like ten guys that are on the sixtyda AL that

447
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: are gonna be added back to the forty man roster

448
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Speaker 2: when the season ends. So and obviously the Braids will

449
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: have guys just naturally come off the forty when the

450
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: season's over. Marcel A Zuna will come off the forties.

451
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Speaker 2: No longer on the roster, he's a free agent. Rossillo

452
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Speaker 2: Gleasiers will come off the forty he's a free agent.

453
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Speaker 2: Sandy Leone, who got added when Sew Murphy got hurt,

454
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Speaker 2: will come off the roster because he's a free agent.

455
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Speaker 2: And then there'll be the offseason moves where like guys

456
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Speaker 2: get non tender. Jake Freiley might get non tendered. Eli

457
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: White might get non tendered. Jared Kelnick, these are guys

458
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Speaker 2: the Braves have under team control, but they might choose

459
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: to let them go into free agency because they just

460
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Speaker 2: want better things for that roster spot. Jared Kelnick, I

461
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Speaker 2: think is a pretty pretty clear, you know, probably gonna

462
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Speaker 2: be non tendered at some point this offseason. So yeah,

463
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Speaker 2: we're not gonna do a full forty man dive tonight.

464
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Speaker 2: We've got the off season for that and we'll have

465
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Speaker 2: plenty of time to do that. But we did just

466
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Speaker 2: want to point out the number of players the Brave

467
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Speaker 2: have on the sixtyd al. It's gotten pretty much the

468
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Speaker 2: double digits at this point, all of them have to

469
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Speaker 2: be added back at the beginning of the offseason, and

470
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Speaker 2: then you have to actually if you want to make

471
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Speaker 2: any sort of moves, then you have to clear a

472
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Speaker 2: space there to make moves to add guys to the forties.

473
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Speaker 2: So it does get tight in the offseason with a

474
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Speaker 2: nose sixty di al, you do have to put everyone

475
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Speaker 2: back on. And so we're gonna see some moves early

476
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Speaker 2: where the Braves are making roster moves. The Braves are

477
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Speaker 2: clear and non tendering guys, cutting guys, releasing guys because

478
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: they need the forty men spots because all of those

479
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: guys have to be put back on when the season's over.

480
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Speaker 1: And it is not a far fetched statement to make

481
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Speaker 1: or prediction to make. I feel that those group of

482
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Speaker 1: names that you just mentioned, that group itself could be

483
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Speaker 1: a source of twenty to twenty five wins above replacement

484
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Speaker 1: next year for this Braves team. Like you hope that

485
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Speaker 1: that could be the case. The Braves need for it

486
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Speaker 1: to be the case, if not more than that. But

487
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Speaker 1: that's another concerned going into the off season that you

488
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Speaker 1: have so many of those significant names currently on the

489
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Speaker 1: forty or currently not on the forty mid roster. They're

490
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Speaker 1: on the sixty deil who are going to go into

491
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Speaker 1: the off season, you hope, getting healthier than when they

492
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Speaker 1: got injured, obviously, but who likely are not going to

493
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Speaker 1: have just a fully healthy offseason. Sub will more than others.

494
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Speaker 1: But that is a big thing, and it feels like

495
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Speaker 1: that it's rit swashed repeat once again for like a

496
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Speaker 1: third or four straight off season. One of the biggest

497
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Speaker 1: contributing factors to the Braves getting back to where they

498
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Speaker 1: would get he is returning to hell for their for

499
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: many of their internal options like Austin Bridley and others,

500
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Speaker 1: So that that is no small development is monitoried, not

501
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: only those names coming back over the roster, but them

502
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Speaker 1: getting healthy in state healthy.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean listen, Austin Riley and Sean Murphy alone

504
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: have both been five, four or five win players in

505
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Speaker 2: their career. I mean that could be you know, that's

506
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Speaker 2: eight ten war sitting on the sixty al right there.

507
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Speaker 2: Then you had Spencer Swallenbach, you had Ronaldo Lopez. I mean,

508
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: these are guys who were substantial contributors. You know, Grant Holmes,

509
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: Chris Sale was on the sixty dayl It just came

510
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Speaker 2: off and Obviously, Spencer Strider spent the last year on

511
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Speaker 2: the sixty day because he was recovering from elbow surgeries.

512
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Speaker 2: So yeah, the brains, the brains have had massive, massive

513
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Speaker 2: pieces of their what they need to be contributors, guys

514
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: who they depend on we're just not playing and it

515
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: isn't an It's actually an unbelievable amount of guys on

516
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Speaker 2: the sixty al this season. At some point, probably in October,

517
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Speaker 2: when there's no more Braves, I'll go through and actually

518
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Speaker 2: count how many players the Braves put on the sixty

519
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Speaker 2: al at some point this season, because it is absurd.

520
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Speaker 2: And that's what made me think of it tonight to

521
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Speaker 2: talk about was obviously they put Jake Freeley on. Now

522
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: they did that to clear a roster spot. It's so

523
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Speaker 2: close to the end of the season. He's probably not

524
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Speaker 2: that hurt, but they did it to they needed the

525
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Speaker 2: roster spot. But it made me think all of these

526
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Speaker 2: guys have to get back on the forty man when

527
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Speaker 2: the off season starts, So the Braids are going to

528
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Speaker 2: have some maneuvering to do, to say the least, even

529
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Speaker 2: before we get into what they do for the off season,

530
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Speaker 2: just to get to the offseason, the Braids are gonna

531
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Speaker 2: have some moves to make to clear up some forty

532
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Speaker 2: man spots for all their injured guys being put back on.

533
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Speaker 2: So just something to watch for as we move to

534
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Speaker 2: the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the end of the season, it is a poddust,

536
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Speaker 1: but I believe died more games for the Braves. Let

537
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: me yeah, Night Moore games left for the Braves, and

538
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: I believe that. You know, the Braves will be officially

539
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs, either they already have or they

540
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: will be at some point this week, But that doesn't

541
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Speaker 1: mean there's still is a few things to watch out for,

542
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Speaker 1: including tomorrow night with the Braves hitting Detroit for the

543
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: series opener against the Tigers. They'll face a familiar frid

544
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Speaker 1: and hel Foe for the second time this year. More

545
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555
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563
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564
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565
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567
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Speaker 1: So Steven, the Braves will be going to Detroit. It

572
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Speaker 1: would likely it, just to be honest, what's more than

573
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Speaker 1: like which I would almost gear at tee going to

574
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Speaker 1: be the last meaningful games of the season before the

575
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Speaker 1: Braves they're played a team to the Tigers, who are

576
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: still looking for playoff positioning. The Braves themselves are gonna

577
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: be facing Charlie Bourton tomorrow night. You're going to see

578
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: some opportunity for the Braves regulars to play. But while

579
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: over this weekend you may see that one day that

580
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: you're going to start seeing is probably a bit more

581
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Speaker 1: of the WJA the other days such as that getting starts,

582
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, idids and things like that, Things are gonna

583
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Speaker 1: wind down and wind out quickly as we would really

584
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Speaker 1: want to, you know, see, you know these you know

585
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: more than you think these regulars end on a healthy,

586
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: good note. Now that also is gonna be in the

587
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: light up every day. But with that being said, it's

588
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Speaker 1: gonna be fun to see Charlie board once again. But

589
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: what really stands out to Steven Talbert? What are the

590
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: what are two things that if this occurs, the season's

591
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna end on an even better note than right now?

592
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Speaker 1: I anticipate What are two things that stand out to

593
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Speaker 1: you over the next week plus.

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously the Brothers are playing the Tigers this weekend,

595
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: last road game, last road series of the year, and

596
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: Charlie Moodon obviously got traded to the Tigers. He's not

597
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: been good with the Troy He's got like a six

598
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: cra since being traded over. So a lot of our

599
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: podcast has kind of latched onto the Tigers to kind

600
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: of be their team in the postseason. I will probably

601
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: join them in that. I kind of do want the

602
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Speaker 2: Tigers to make a run. But yeah, Morton has not

603
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Speaker 2: been good and the Braves will face him Friday. It

604
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Speaker 2: is gonna be issue. So the Braves are nine games

605
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Speaker 2: back in the Wild Card. There's nine games left, so obviously,

606
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Speaker 2: the next time the Braves lose or the Mets win,

607
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: they will officially be eliminated from the postseason. I know

608
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Speaker 2: people thought obviously the Braves were actually, you know, for

609
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Speaker 2: all intentsive purposes eliminated a long time ago. But they

610
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Speaker 2: will mathematically be eliminated the next time the Mets win

611
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Speaker 2: or the Braves lose. So yeah, we're We've been in

612
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Speaker 2: storyline mode for a long time. What I'm looking for

613
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Speaker 2: for the rest of the year is I want to

614
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Speaker 2: see every Spencer Strider start he's gonna pitch in this series.

615
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Speaker 2: I want to see what he looks like, what adjustments

616
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Speaker 2: he continues to make every Hurston Waldrup start is interesting

617
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Speaker 2: to me. I watched them all. You know, Chris Sale,

618
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Speaker 2: every time I watch him, I just think, damn, I

619
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Speaker 2: wish he hadn't got hurt because I think that guy

620
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Speaker 2: would have won SAT Young again. He's been that good,

621
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Speaker 2: better era this year than he had last year when

622
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Speaker 2: he won the award. So and obviously you just want health.

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Speaker 2: I just want a Kunya Olsen, you know, Akunyan Olsen.

624
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Speaker 2: Both getting here in the last you know, part of

625
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: the September, last part of the last couple of weeks

626
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: is awesome to see those guys can now go into

627
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Speaker 2: an offseason just you know, fully regular, you know, healthy,

628
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Speaker 2: and can get set up for a strong twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just mainly health. Seeing the guys who

630
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Speaker 2: are still pitching. I want to see what Joey Wentz

631
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Speaker 2: looks like, we Waltrip looks like. But I'll tell you

632
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Speaker 2: what I'm most interested in. And and Brad and I

633
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: talked about this a couple of days ago, and Scott

634
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: and Brad actually talked about this last night as well.

635
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Speaker 2: If the Braves are gonna do any sort of sending

636
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Speaker 2: off of Brian Snitker of the last week and they're

637
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Speaker 2: home the last week. That announcement needs to come, like

638
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: in the next day or two that he's retiring, and

639
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: then you can do a whole week of fans come

640
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Speaker 2: to the park to see Brian Snicker's last games. You

641
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: can do a whole Brian Snicker appreciation week. You know,

642
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Speaker 2: all the stuff that you would kind of expect for

643
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Speaker 2: somebody who's been in the organization for like fifty years,

644
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Speaker 2: you would expect some sort of send off. It is

645
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: going to piss some fans off if we get to

646
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: the off season and they just move on from Snitcher

647
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: and no one ever got a chance to like appreciate him,

648
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: say bye to him. Like he's gonna piss some fans off.

649
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be personally pissed off, but I understand

650
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: people that would be, like, the dude's been in the

651
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: organization for fifty years, you know, we should have done

652
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: something for him during the season where you know, fans

653
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: could just you know, show their appreciation. I hope if

654
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: they are gonna move on from him, I hope, I

655
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: really hope they do it the right way. Send out

656
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: that announcement in the next day, or two and let

657
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: the fans show their gratitude over the last week of

658
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: the season. We have not heard anything to that effect,

659
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: and maybe Brian Snicker isn't retiring at all, But if

660
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: he is, or if the Braves are not bringing him back,

661
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: I really hope they go about it the right way.

662
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Don't just do it in the offseason and the guy

663
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: doesn't get any fanfare like announce it now so the

664
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Speaker 2: guy can get like a week long like send off.

665
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: I think that's the right way to handle it. But

666
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: I say that to say, if they're going to do that,

667
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: that has to be happening. That has to happen like

668
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: the next two or three days, because once they get

669
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Speaker 2: back home, you know, that's it. That's the last those

670
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: the last six games of the year. So it's something

671
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Speaker 2: to watch for the next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that it's the right thing

673
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Speaker 1: to do. And you know, but it may be the

674
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: right thing to do, But I also think that there's

675
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Speaker 1: legitimate truth to the fact that Sticker may just not

676
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: have made his vind up yet. If he has it,

677
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Speaker 1: you can't force that. I'm with you one hundred and

678
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Speaker 1: fifty percent. But if he has it, you can't force

679
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: that now on that Sabien. If he hasn't made his

680
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: bind up, it should not automatically be given that if

681
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Speaker 1: he wants to come back, he does come back with

682
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Speaker 1: the Braves.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, is that, like, if the

684
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Braves aren't going to bring him back regardless, and Alex

685
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: knows that right now. Alex is sitting in his office

686
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: right now, and he knows even if Brian's nicker wants

687
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: to come back, he knows whether or not he wants

688
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: him to come back. And that's what I'm saying. If

689
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Speaker 2: he doesn't want him to come back, if he is

690
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent in his mind, he knows the brains

691
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: are going to have a new manager next year, do

692
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: the right thing by snit and get that word out

693
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: so that we can do a full week of like,

694
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: thank you for being in this organization for half a century,

695
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: winning a World series, you know, second most wins and

696
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: franchise like the guy deserves to send off. And I

697
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: hope if they already know, I hope they do it

698
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: the right way.

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Speaker 1: And I hope they do know because it is the

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Speaker 1: timee bride sticker. You know, whether it be a retirement

701
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: or what have you. It is the time to make

702
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: a change, but you know, I don't want to. There's

703
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: spoilers there. You know, we'll have that to talk about

704
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: plenty the off season. But that type is cub But

705
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: that's a conversation for another time out there with you.

706
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: I really want to see how the top of the

707
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: order continues to work out, because I think as of

708
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: right now, there's a very good chips the top three

709
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: of your order, it's subcombination are going to be profar

710
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Olsen as well as that's all back by Bodwin and Riley.

711
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: Whatever potential audition you could see there, Hassan Kim being

712
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: able to end the season on a good note I

713
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: think would be really good to see as well. So

714
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Plinty to watch out for now what in the show

715
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: on a bit of a maybe surprising note or a

716
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: bit of a you know, random note, if you will,

717
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: But I think that it certainly is worth it. There

718
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: was another announcement today we were talking about, you know,

719
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Brian Sticker, you know, over the end of the year

720
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: with with his potential retirement announcement or a send off

721
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: for him long time Los Angeles Dodgers, A Clayton Kershaw

722
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: announced his retirement earlier today. And I know that this

723
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Speaker 1: is a Braves podcast, but this is also Clayton Kershaw,

724
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: who legitimately is one of the best pitchers and ambasadors

725
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: for the game that I can remember in at least

726
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: in my lifetime and probably in the history of the game.

727
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: Steven thirteen games against the Braves in his current least

728
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: regular season, two point four ninety two strikeouts away from

729
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: one hundred, but I believe he was six of would

730
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: against Atlanta. But the thing that I'm getting at is

731
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: is that, you know, for Braves fans who are able

732
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: to witness for the better part of a decade Smokes

733
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: Glavet at Maddocks, we're talking about Kershaw arguably probably definitely

734
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: had a better career than any of them, at least

735
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: at his peak. What a tremendous career. It just hats

736
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Speaker 1: off to a give one of the perhaps maybe the

737
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: best picture I've seen it by lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Kershaw was very good. Uh, he was the best picture

739
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: probably of his generation. Schuerger and Verlander probably have something

740
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: to say about that. And I'm probably forgetting somebody. He's

741
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer. I don't

742
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: know that I would say he was ever better than Maddox.

743
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: I think I think Maddox gets slept on. I think

744
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Maddox is like one of the top ten baseball players ever,

745
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: not just pictures like go look at like Greg Maddox's

746
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: fangrafts or Baseball Reference pace. It's one of the craziest things.

747
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: You know.

748
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: I actually spend like hours on that pitch time just

749
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: marveling at the nonsense, the craziness that is Greg Maddox's career.

750
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, Kershaw is a first ballot Hall of Famer.

751
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: You know, he's got some like counting numbers like wins

752
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: and stuff that we're not gonna see again for a

753
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: long time, like when this generation in, Like you know,

754
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: Kershaw suresier sale. When these guys retire, you know we're

755
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: gonna go along, like Kershaw has over two hundred wins

756
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: and listen, picture wins is whatever. I don't care about it,

757
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: but a lot of people do. You're not gonna see

758
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: a picture with two hundred wins again for a long time,

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: like once this generation of guys retires, because in the

760
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: new age of baseball, nobody cares about Pitcher wins, so

761
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: they don't, they don't go for them, they don't accumulate

762
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: the way they used to. So yeah, first ballot Hall

763
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: of Famer retiring today today. Did he pitch, Well, I don't.

764
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know the last time he pitched, but

765
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: he's got a career ara a in like the mid twos.

766
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just absurd how good this guy was

767
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: for so long. Again, was probably at one point was

768
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: very clearly the best picture on the planet. And so yeah,

769
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: hats off to Clayton Kershaw. Job all done, one entire

770
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: career with one team. You don't see that much anymore. No, obviously,

771
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: brace fans know with Shipper Jones, how that's kind of

772
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: a special thing, Derek Jeter the Yankees, and now Kershaw

773
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. An entire career with one team, so

774
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: even not alone, it's just something to kind of applaud

775
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: and yeah, enjoy retirement, Clayton Kershaw.

776
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: And I agree with you. You know, I probably misspoke

777
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: there in terms of I think that you could make

778
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: a case easily that Greg Bennix had the better career.

779
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Yout their peaks probably aren't comparable.

780
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, his peak, Kershaw's peak is as good as anybody's

781
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: peaking in baseball history.

782
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the point that I'm getting at the

783
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: fact that you're sitting here comparative to the likes of

784
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: a great benex It's just the kid. I know that

785
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have been arrival in a brace country. Don't

786
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: like the Dodgers, but maed just Clayton. Clayton Kershaw had

787
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: one of the rare characteristics and I think one of

788
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: the biggest copy of it you could give to a

789
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: pitcher would he pitched during his prime? That was one

790
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: of the most most see games during the week that

791
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: you had to be able to see. And with Vin

792
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 1: Scully was old the bike colleague his games, that made

793
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: it even better. So hats off to a great career

794
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: for Clayton Kershaw, obviously a well deserved you know what,

795
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: the greatest ever to take the veiled in a clear

796
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Favor. Steven, do you have anything

797
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: else as we wrap up this edition of the Heber

798
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Speaker 1: Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, we were looking through some of our

800
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Speaker 2: numbers for September and the downloads that we get on

801
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: these episodes are just insane, especially when the Braves suck like.

802
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: You guys have just been awesome to us. And I

803
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: know I've said it a bunch lately, but I am

804
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: very we are very grateful, Like it is really it

805
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: is really cool for us to see that you guys

806
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: still very much enjoy the show, that you're still responding

807
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: to the show, interacting with the show, still got a

808
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: ton of comments on YouTube and stuff. So just a

809
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: big hats off to you. You know, nobody know, this

810
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: is not the season any anybody, any any of us,

811
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: any of you guys wanted, but you know, it happens.

812
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: This is part of sports, This is part of being

813
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: a fan. So some years just don't go your way

814
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: and that makes the years where it does go your

815
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: way that much more special, right, you know, twenty twenty

816
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: one's are special because twenty twenty fives are possible and

817
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's that's how sports go sometimes. So

818
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: but we appreciate the support. It's been really really strong,

819
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: and we appreciate you guys quite a bit.

820
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: And I can tell you this with the season, you know,

821
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: it ended a while ago, but when the off season starts,

822
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna get us rejuvenated. Gauzette that can

823
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: break down and in just every eight I can't wait.

824
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to the off season and start.

825
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: How can this phrase team get back to where we

826
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: can talk about wins instead of getting excited potentially about

827
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: what could happen, but what's going on all the field?

828
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: How ready to get back being excited about what happens

829
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: all the field? And it may be months away, but

830
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: it's what you do in those months leading up to

831
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: would your backplay beating games that's going to make them

832
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: beatingful for as long as you hope that they will be.

833
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: You can find myself at stats Sac on Twitter, slash x,

834
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: Steven Tobert at the Underscore Outliers Hamit Territory across all

835
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: forms of social media, part of the foul Territory family

836
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: of podcasts. Thanks for bearing with me today. I'm gonna

837
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: go get some medicine hopefully feel better. Thank you as

838
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: always to Steven Tolber to give the best podcast partner

839
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: in the game, and also to Brian Rowland as well

840
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: as Scott Colvid. We'll be back with you later this week.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, go braves, We'll talk to you. Can

842
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: get sued here on The Hammer Territory podcast