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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Can't Beleeve Reckless, the production of iHeartRadio and

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<v Speaker 3>yet another carefully reckless episode with your girl Jess hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'll be doing. I'll be fixing mess y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have any goddamn voice notes, y'all I SENDI

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<v Speaker 3>me no goddamn voice notes, but y'all a sending me

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<v Speaker 3>these long as paragraphs. Yes, I am going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>complaining about it. You know why cause y'all don't care. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all y'all can't fucking spell, and y'all be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a bitch can't read.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all can't spell the five. So that's why I be

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<v Speaker 1>mad shit.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, we're gonna jump straight into it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio today, so I don't have Taylor here

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<v Speaker 3>to read with me or to help fix y'all mess.

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<v Speaker 3>But we just go and jump into it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be me. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Jess.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a friend that is going through relationship problems.

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<v Speaker 3>She always confides in me because she knows I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest with her and actually listen, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like a good friend is supposed to. Lately, things have

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<v Speaker 3>been getting worse for her. Don't really want to say

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<v Speaker 3>too much, but it has. I have given her all

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<v Speaker 3>the advice I can, but she just runs back. It's

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<v Speaker 3>starting to get a little annoying because she would also

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<v Speaker 3>get me involved. Like Jess, last week, we slashed this

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<v Speaker 3>nigga tires, laughed my ass off, and by the next

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<v Speaker 3>night they was laid back up like nothing ever happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that following night she wanted to jump him

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<v Speaker 3>in his sleep, which wasn't a good idea laughing my

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<v Speaker 3>ass off and bitch, ain't none of this shit funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Continuing My point is, I'm just tired of telling her

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing and she goes right back to him.

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<v Speaker 3>So last night she called me to vent her usual

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<v Speaker 3>and I told her before she even spoke, if we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna talk about the nigga, you might as well hang up,

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<v Speaker 3>because I honestly don't want to hear it. She straight

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<v Speaker 3>ignored me and started to proceed with her conversation. I

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<v Speaker 3>got so irritated and said, your dumbass gonna go straight back,

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<v Speaker 3>so why does it matter? Yes, that was harsh, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fed up with it, Jess, and I don't take

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<v Speaker 3>your back either. We talk every morning on our way

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<v Speaker 3>to work or at least text, but girl shanet reach out,

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<v Speaker 3>not one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's probably upset and need some time because maybe she

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't expecting that out of me. I just want my

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<v Speaker 3>friend to wake up and realize she's worth so much

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<v Speaker 3>more than this nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's how it ended.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm guessing you just want advice on advice that

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<v Speaker 3>you can give to your friend to help her move on. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it ain't gonna happen. She not gonna get tired and

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<v Speaker 3>says she gets tired. You can get tired for somebody

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<v Speaker 3>as much as you want. The inevitable thing about it

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<v Speaker 3>is your friend not gonna be ready to let this

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<v Speaker 3>man go until she's ready to let him go. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who y'all are and everything, because I

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<v Speaker 3>take it depending I give y'all advice depending on y'all age.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this shit sound young. It sounds like y'all are

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<v Speaker 3>very young, and I totally get it. Let me say,

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<v Speaker 3>because I remember I was doing this type shit when

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<v Speaker 3>I first met Rome. That's the that's my baby ball,

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<v Speaker 3>but the first baby ball I had, I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>this type of shit with my cousin London, running around

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<v Speaker 3>slashing her own tires, and well, roll ain't get a

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<v Speaker 3>call until later on. So when he did get a

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<v Speaker 3>call when he you know, wasn't traveling on his feet

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<v Speaker 3>after a few years. Yes, I bust his windows flat

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<v Speaker 3>and hiss tires. I did all that, But I did

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<v Speaker 3>all that shit in my early twenties, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. Like I did a few things while I

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<v Speaker 3>was pregnant too, but I was nineteen. So you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>be young, like y'all got to be young and shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just the downside of it, right, because you

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<v Speaker 3>want your friend, you want your friend to notice she

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<v Speaker 3>that girl for sure, but if she not ready to

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<v Speaker 3>give up on dude, and she's just not ready now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you should talk to her, like show her

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<v Speaker 3>her worth. You can't like come at her and say

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<v Speaker 3>shit like your dumb ass gonna go right back, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why she not talking to you. I get

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<v Speaker 1>it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Lately, I've been on my shit where I've been, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>making the women take accountability and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So you right on brand.

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<v Speaker 3>But listen, you can't help her go do this shit

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<v Speaker 3>and then try to tell her lead a nigga alone.

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<v Speaker 3>You was right there slashing the right tie and while

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<v Speaker 3>she was slashing the other tie on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>You was right there over there jumping a nigga in

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<v Speaker 3>his sleep with her. You know, you know you down,

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<v Speaker 3>you there, you down the ride through whatever, through thick

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<v Speaker 3>and thin. That's your homegirl. Yes, but you can't be

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<v Speaker 3>the person that is indulging into the crime, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>what all it is. You just admitted a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>crimes that you've committed with your friend to me, So

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<v Speaker 3>you can't be down to do all that shit and

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<v Speaker 3>then you be the same you want turn her around

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<v Speaker 3>trying to give her a fucking intervention or for intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. The leader's nigga alone.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think what you should should do is instead

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<v Speaker 3>of coming at her, you got to meet her where

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<v Speaker 3>she at. You get what I'm saying, Like, you really

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<v Speaker 3>have to be honest and just level with her, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>speak life into her. Yeah, y'all are young, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can do that, you know, help her see her worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Not by coming at her for fucking with the nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, but more so just complimenting her,

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<v Speaker 3>letting her know, girl, you are worth more than this shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you can get any nigga you want, friend, like

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<v Speaker 3>take her out, let her show her a good girl's

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<v Speaker 3>night out or whatever. You know, look, send a ass

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<v Speaker 3>hold on the blind date, you know, do a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>v one whatever. You know, the shit that y'all kids

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<v Speaker 3>be doing, I'm just automatically assume that y'all youngest shit,

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<v Speaker 3>because all of this behavior is youngest shit. It's very childish. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some adults that do shit like this too,

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<v Speaker 3>but very seldom. It's very seldom that you would see

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<v Speaker 3>this come from a mature woman, like a person who

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<v Speaker 3>knows her worth already, you know what I mean, a

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<v Speaker 3>female who knows her worth, but like, yeah, meet her

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<v Speaker 3>where she is and give her the best advice by

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<v Speaker 3>showing her who she is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? You know that that's saying that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend is exactly who she thinks she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know what I'm saying, Hype her up like that,

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<v Speaker 3>show bitch, and she needs to always remember that if

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<v Speaker 3>you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be right back show her ways like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was pretty easy because I remember actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Going through shit like that, Like I remember doing that

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<v Speaker 3>with my cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we used to be the treacherous twins.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm talking about popping up on niggas at

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<v Speaker 3>these jobs. Come outside, come outside all that, right, rod shit,

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<v Speaker 3>this shit ain't cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bunch of toxicity.

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<v Speaker 3>She got to get that shit together before she gets older,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Because a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 3>and it starts very young, think that's what love is like,

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<v Speaker 3>if y'all ain't fighting, or if y'all ain't arguing, if

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like a lot of that's that's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of women's love language. Like they think that that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It's toxic, and that's probably all that they've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that's growing up or whether that's just how they've

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<v Speaker 3>seen relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. However, whatever that may be. Hell, no, love.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't supposed to go like that. You ain't supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be busting on nig upside his head in his sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't cool or cute, goofy asses.

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't do that. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to talk about this story that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>had called up to the breakfast club and asked me

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<v Speaker 3>to fix their mess about. So it was this woman

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<v Speaker 3>she had called up and she was saying that she's gay,

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<v Speaker 3>and she deals with two women right now. Neither one

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<v Speaker 3>of the girls know about each other. I'm gonna say girls,

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<v Speaker 3>because they were young. She did tell me that she

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty years old. She didn't tell me how old

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<v Speaker 3>the two girls were that she was talking to. But

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<v Speaker 3>she has two girls on a roster, right and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't know about each other. And now one of the

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<v Speaker 3>girls she likes more than the other, so she wants

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<v Speaker 3>the girl. She likes one of them more than the other,

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<v Speaker 3>but she doesn't want to make that one her girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>because she's not ready to be committed. She's only twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>She's testing the water, dating to see what she likes

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<v Speaker 3>and everything like that. However, she is, you know, lesbian.

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<v Speaker 3>But she had heard out, I mean, she had heard

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<v Speaker 3>from out in the streets that one of the girls

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<v Speaker 3>that she deal with, right, the main one that she

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<v Speaker 3>likes more than the other one, was out at like

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<v Speaker 3>a bar or a club or restaurant or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was, you know, there with another girl, and it

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<v Speaker 3>had gotten back to her that they were very touchy philly.

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<v Speaker 3>They was all up on each other and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody that knew that this girl was talking to her,

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<v Speaker 3>they told her. They took a picture and sent the

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<v Speaker 3>picture to her and was like, damn, you know your

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<v Speaker 3>girl out here. You know this is your girl. So

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<v Speaker 3>she was calling up to tell me, I mean to

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<v Speaker 3>ask me what she should do about it. Do I

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<v Speaker 3>think that she should confront the girl about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being out in public with somebody, like she's not dating

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<v Speaker 3>her too, or she just not say anything. And my

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<v Speaker 3>advice to that was, let's just strip the age away

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<v Speaker 3>from it, right, Okay, you just told me that you

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<v Speaker 3>had two girls that you're talking to and you like

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<v Speaker 3>one more than the other. However, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>commit because that's something that that's just not something that

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<v Speaker 3>you see yourself doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not something that you're ready for.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the same breath you're telling me, are you

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<v Speaker 3>asking me rather advice on pulling up on your main girl,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the one one of your girls, confronting her

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<v Speaker 3>about her being out with somebody else?

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<v Speaker 1>You got two of them. They don't even know about

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<v Speaker 1>each other, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the pot calling the kettle black and the black

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<v Speaker 3>calling the well. You can't contradict yourself like that, Lady, shady, lady,

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<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. She was like, I mean, I just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, Jazz. I feel like I like her a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do want her more than I want the

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<v Speaker 3>other one. I like both of them, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>I love her like I love her more than I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't even love the other one. I

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<v Speaker 3>just like her, but I love this one. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>you still don't. You don't love her enough to give

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<v Speaker 3>her a commitment. So how can you pull her up

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<v Speaker 3>about something that she's doing outside of you when you've

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<v Speaker 3>got somebody outside of her too. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I say I'm a stripped age away from it, because

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<v Speaker 3>that's also what happens when you're older too. Like that

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<v Speaker 3>has no age, that has no age.

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<v Speaker 1>On it, you know what I mean? Like men play

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<v Speaker 1>games like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Women play games like that in their forties, in their fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>god damn thirties, twenties, it don't matter. Like I dated

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of different age groups, okay, And trust me,

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<v Speaker 3>just because you're older does not mean you are mature

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<v Speaker 3>and you got it all together because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>older people still want to be young, and so they

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<v Speaker 3>still live in those days and he lives and they

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<v Speaker 3>live in those times. They get stuck. It's like pre dementia,

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<v Speaker 3>like nigga, No, like you, you getting stuck back there?

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<v Speaker 3>Grow the fuck up. I call them people, the stragglers,

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<v Speaker 3>them older guys and older women who don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be their fucking age and act accordingly to their age.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just what I want to say about that. And then, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I know y'all probably get mad at this. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you are twenty years old. You have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more life to live. You're gonna meet the lady

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<v Speaker 3>of your life, and it may even be the man.

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<v Speaker 3>A man might steal your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know. You don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're only twenty years old. You may be just curious

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<v Speaker 3>right now. This gay lifestyle may be a phase for

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<v Speaker 3>you. You may end up with a man with kids. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if she was a stut or not, but

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<v Speaker 3>when I said the man party sounded like she got

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more feminine, you know, so she might

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<v Speaker 3>end up liking Dick later. Who knows, we're going back

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<v Speaker 3>to it out of next or what our history was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Just too much.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't contradict yourselves, ladies. You know, and listen, mind

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<v Speaker 3>you if you want to be the only one. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta treat people like you want to be fucking treated.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw something online where somebody had challenged that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was doctor Cheyenne Brian, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. No, no, no, it wasn't doctor Brian. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't doctor Brian about to throw something on this lady.

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<v Speaker 3>And she didn't even say it. It was something else, somebody else,

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<v Speaker 3>but somebody disagree with that. Treat people like you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be treated, you know, do unto people like you

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<v Speaker 3>want to be done unto? You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like I and I'm a firm believer in that. How

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck I'm a cheat on you? Or I I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being honest with you, like all right, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to commitment, so you're not the only person I talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you. And mind you, she didn't even tell either

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<v Speaker 3>one of her girls that they're not the only ones,

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<v Speaker 3>like so they just thinking they're exclusively talking to this girl,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're exclusively dating.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you got two girls. How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to lead like that but then get mad when

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else pulling you on you? Cause she was out

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<v Speaker 3>in public doing it, right, I guess that's that's what hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>But it still doesn't change the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you you like this girl, you say, you say

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<v Speaker 3>you love her, but you don't love her enough to

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<v Speaker 3>be her girlfriend, to commit to her. That's some bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really like that myself. So that's the advice

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<v Speaker 3>that I gave her, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, Hold up.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this shit getting good, but listen to just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple seconds of a commercial. If you love me,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to clear something up also, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>I did Club Shasha a couple weeks ago, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>now this is the thing, of course, blugs grab, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just video clips and not even any context around the

0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:35.080
<v Speaker 3>small clip that looks like it's meant to be one way,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but it's interpreted so differently and so negatively,

0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.080
<v Speaker 3>because that's what blogs like to do for clickbait. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So they're never going to grab the context around the

0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.200
<v Speaker 3>subject that they were talking about, you know, I mean

0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.440
<v Speaker 3>that they posted about, right, and they should do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hate that. I used to love making the blogs.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate when I be I get butterflies in my

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<v Speaker 3>stomach when somebody called me like yoh, you ain't say

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<v Speaker 3>they posted on Shape Room or on Spiritual Word, or

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<v Speaker 3>on Hollywood Unlocked or on the Neighborhood Talk or I'm like, no,

0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Nigad didn't, Oh my god didn't on site shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to Rashida Ali. Listen on site, they be getting the

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<v Speaker 3>shit man, and I'd be like, no, please don't post

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<v Speaker 3>me on the motherfucking blogs. Should be crazy. That shit

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<v Speaker 3>is exhausting, especially when somebody to pick what you said

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong way because the blogs grab a few seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I sat down with Shannon Sharp and he was asking

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<v Speaker 3>me about marriage. The topic was marriage, right, and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>no marriage is perfect. I forget exactly how we got

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<v Speaker 3>on Kirk and Rashida right is we were speaking about

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<v Speaker 3>marriage and how no marriage is perfect, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people in the public I they like for their

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<v Speaker 3>marriage to seem perfect, you know what I mean, when

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<v Speaker 3>in all reality, you don't have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, you don't have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think the people win staying more relatable

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<v Speaker 3>because don't nobody want to see a facade, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Because that's just not reality.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not real.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. That's why I ain't gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I love and respect, love and hip hop, Atlanta. The

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<v Speaker 3>marriages on there that have lasted through the test of

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<v Speaker 3>time now look in no way, shape or form what

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<v Speaker 3>I want my husband to cheat on me and make

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<v Speaker 3>a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>In no way, shape or form would I be Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think I would be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>past Chris having a baby on me. I would not

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<v Speaker 3>be able to just fathom even what the fuck that

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<v Speaker 3>looks like, you know what I mean. No, But and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say Kirk and Rashida have the perfect marriage,

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<v Speaker 3>which Hollywood unlock quote it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I said they put it in their caption that many

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<v Speaker 3>headlines that I said, that's the perfect marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>To me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I said, that's the perfect example of a marriage

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<v Speaker 3>that has stood and went. They went through everything and

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<v Speaker 3>they still are standing till this day. That's the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>example of how strong a marriage can be when they

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<v Speaker 3>have to endure shit coming from here.

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<v Speaker 1>There. They're they're, they're they're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo, even before Kirk had a baby, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, which was not something that like he purposely did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making excuses for this man, No I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's marriages that made it through worse than that. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know you say it don't get no worse than

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<v Speaker 3>having another baby. Oh yes, the fuck it does. I

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<v Speaker 3>know women who've husbands have come out to them, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were saying that they were battling something. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know why who have stayed and helped you know

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<v Speaker 3>them through their healing process. It was a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>seasons ago a woman had wrote me, right, and she said,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been married for umpteen years. I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the umpteen is just, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of years, a lot of years. And she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering why my husband don't look at me

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<v Speaker 3>the same? Why why they you know, why he you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like he's attracted to me. Doesn't compliment

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<v Speaker 3>me much anymore. He doesn't take me out. When he

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<v Speaker 3>kisses me, it's no tongue. He just pecks me. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I'm growing to be unattractive in my husband's eyes. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, so, I just went through his phone,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't find anything. I went through his email, and I

0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:53.399
<v Speaker 3>found out that he was seeing men, you know. But

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<v Speaker 3>she said she dug a little deeper, and she also

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<v Speaker 3>found out that he was seeing a therapist for this, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he didn't know how to come to his wife,

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<v Speaker 3>so she approached him. And she was a very calm woman,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, because she didn't say she went off.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't say she Janey Jackson, this nigga, remember, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing depending how you marry a woman. Didn't turn

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<v Speaker 3>a run to be gay, like. She ain't say she

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<v Speaker 3>did that, you know, she said that the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>she she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going to do it, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe that because I remember her telling me like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to go off until I dug a

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<v Speaker 3>little deeper and I saw that he was actually seeking

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<v Speaker 3>some type of counsel for this, like he was actually

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<v Speaker 3>going to therapy for this.

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<v Speaker 1>And she ended up staying with her husband. Long story short, like,

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up staying with.

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<v Speaker 3>This man, like you know, it bothered her, And as

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<v Speaker 3>much as it bothered her, she didn't want to give

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<v Speaker 3>up on her husband. She was with him for umpteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I say, I'm teen, I think I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was definitely more than ten years. She

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<v Speaker 3>had kids with him, you know what I'm saying, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they had businesses together and all that type of shit

0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 3>real estate, Like they had companies that they had built

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 3>from ground up together. She had known this man since teenagers,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, since they were teenagers, and

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<v Speaker 3>he did tell her when when confronting him, he don't

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 3>know why he had these feelings. He's been having them

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<v Speaker 3>since a teenager. But he's done a better job when

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<v Speaker 3>he was younger of burying them and not acting on

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<v Speaker 3>his feelings, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he but.

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<v Speaker 3>As the older that he got his curiosity like grew,

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, and he was already married. They married young,

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, and he had been just talking to them,

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 3>and he did tell his wife he's never slept with

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 3>a man, but that's why, you know, he had those

0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 3>urges like he wanted to so that's why he went

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<v Speaker 3>to therapy, and his therapist then referred him to a

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 3>psychologist or something, a psyche psychiatrist or a psychologist, which

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 3>are two different things, by the way, But and I

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 3>don't know the differ, like the critical difference, I don't

0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 3>know the concrete difference. But I do know that there

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<v Speaker 3>is a difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and

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<v Speaker 3>he got all the help that he needed. And she

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't updated me or anything, but she was just saying

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<v Speaker 3>that he wanted to be better, he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>have these feelings, and that he was willing to go

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<v Speaker 3>through any type of you know, willing to go to

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<v Speaker 3>any extreme to get this out of his system or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And she said she was going to stick by her

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<v Speaker 3>man and stag wiham you know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 3>just being vulnerable enough to expose that to me, in

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 3>which she said, anonymous, you know what I mean. She

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.399
<v Speaker 3>said she didn't have many friends to talk to about it.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't want to talk to a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>about it because she didn't want to be judged because

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<v Speaker 3>it's a real, very it was a very real thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and the first thing you would do when you think

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<v Speaker 3>about that type shit, you know, when a man is

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.439
<v Speaker 3>battling something like that, you are straight to oh, but

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.560
<v Speaker 3>you better leave him, because yeah, once you gay, you

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.640
<v Speaker 3>always gay, and all that type shit. But he expressed

0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>to her that he didn't want to have those feelings,

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, like it was different for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that also, I would say, is a marriage a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect example of a marriage that can stand the test

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<v Speaker 3>of time, that can go through anything. I did not

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<v Speaker 3>say that is a marriage that I would want to

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<v Speaker 3>be in. I didn't say that that is a marriage

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<v Speaker 3>I glorify. But I did say that's the perfect example.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it for the people in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>open your motherucking ears. That is a perfect example of

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<v Speaker 3>two people that can get through anything. Okay, Now, no,

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<v Speaker 3>Kirk didn't have to have a baby or Rashida to

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<v Speaker 3>prove how strong their marriage is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. No, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't do that on purpose either. Shit happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It is what it is, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And then another thing I made clear when I was

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<v Speaker 3>sitting down with Shannon Sharp is they married very early.

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<v Speaker 3>So did my parents. And YO, when you married straight

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<v Speaker 3>out of high school, when you get married like right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in college and shit like when you're twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>early twenties and you've been knowing this this motherfucker since

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You get married to.

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<v Speaker 3>Your middle school sweetheart, you high school sweetheart, your college sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you got to think about it, y'all right out

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<v Speaker 3>of fucking school, y'all are still growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>So y'all growing up together. You grew up with this person.

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<v Speaker 3>You never got to live out your bachelorette days. You

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<v Speaker 3>never got to live out your bachelor life, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Like you didn't get to go and

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<v Speaker 3>smash all these holes and you know, go through the

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<v Speaker 3>roster or women like you don't get to do You

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to do that like my dad. My dad

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<v Speaker 3>married my mom right out of high school before you

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<v Speaker 3>went to the Marines, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 3>paid that plays a big part in the infidelity when

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<v Speaker 3>you are with one person from a teenager on up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. So shit happens, man, And look,

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<v Speaker 1>life be lifing, and life don't have no manual, no

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<v Speaker 1>rule book.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, whatever aligns with you, whatever is compatible with you,

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<v Speaker 3>you go with that. Sh It ain't as traditional as

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<v Speaker 3>it used to be, you know what I'm saying. And look,

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<v Speaker 3>y'all still woul't disagree with me. But how many couples

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<v Speaker 3>have we made our couple's goals and then later on

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<v Speaker 3>we found out that couples were struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>That couple was struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Will and Jada had no idea about the

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<v Speaker 3>entanglemental august Alsinas did. We We didn't know anything about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the jay Z and Beyonce. That was everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, And it still may be

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<v Speaker 3>some people's goals, but look like we would have never

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<v Speaker 3>known jay Z cheated of Shane dropped leimonade. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>regular shit. That's also a perfect example. Okay, cool, We

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<v Speaker 3>don't hear nothing else about them, but you know, apparently

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<v Speaker 3>he cheated, you know, allegendly he Cheatedlady would got beat

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<v Speaker 3>up in the elevator by s launch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Something happened there and we probably will never find out

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what happened, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what it is. More of the story is, don't

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<v Speaker 1>glorify anybody. Do what works for you. Do what works

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Because Kirk and.

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<v Speaker 3>Rashid, I'm gona say this that I'm gonna get out

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<v Speaker 3>of here. Kirk and Rashida, right, they have they have

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<v Speaker 3>businesses together, man, that's our that was our manager. That

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<v Speaker 3>was they got kids, kids, kids, kids and mold kids

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<v Speaker 3>together like like they've built that all of their success

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<v Speaker 3>with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm saying. So sometimes it ain't.

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<v Speaker 3>Just easy to walk away, and I get it. I

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<v Speaker 3>fucking get a look at yandyem in DC.

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<v Speaker 1>No mine, don't. Don't even look at them.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, we've come to yet the end of another

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic Records episode with your girl, Jacelarios. So what I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be doing, I'll be fixing mess and I'll check in

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<v Speaker 3>with y'all next week.

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