Speaker 1: But we yea, no, no going back. But I want
Speaker 1: to go back. I want to go back to growing
Speaker 1: up in Compton because I'm from Liberty City. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a hood in Miami. He's from a hood in
Speaker 1: South Dakota.
Speaker 2: You can't even keep.
Speaker 1: From a hood in South Dakota. We'll talk about growing
Speaker 1: up in Compton, man, and and you know, obviously, you
Speaker 1: know we we have our ours is kind of like
Speaker 1: represented by neighborhoods. You're from Liberty City, from over Town,
Speaker 1: You're from Coconut Grove. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it depends on what neighborhood you're from. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little different in Compton. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how different it is, but tell me how different
Speaker 1: it is because you don't know what you see on
Speaker 1: TV and colors and different things like that.
Speaker 3: You know, our streets are controlled by gangs. You know,
Speaker 3: you're either on the blue side or the red side,
Speaker 3: or then you have the Mexicans they have their gangs
Speaker 3: and things like that.
Speaker 4: But I grew up in Compton.
Speaker 3: When I was younger, I went to Double Rock Baptist Church,
Speaker 3: so you know, really into my spiritual life. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we grew up there and then you know, my dad
Speaker 3: passed when I was eight, so uh, you know, you
Speaker 3: committed suicide. So uh, you know at eight years old,
Speaker 3: I was really confused. Earlier in my life, so my
Speaker 3: mom we moved around a lot. So I wasn't living
Speaker 3: in Carson. I was living in you know, Loan Beas,
Speaker 3: we were living in Orange County anything. My mom was
Speaker 3: trying to find ways to make our situation better. So
Speaker 3: you know, growing up, it was just a lot of
Speaker 3: moving around.
Speaker 4: Like you know, I understand that. Yeah, so nothing was
Speaker 4: really comfortable.
Speaker 1: And the weird basketball coming to player is that that
Speaker 1: that was your That was your your balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what was going on. That
Speaker 3: was your getaway from everything. Yeah, that's why I was
Speaker 3: my escape from life. Just I had no time to
Speaker 3: really think or like you know, cry about it or
Speaker 3: anything because I had to take care of my family.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: At eleven twelve years old, I was getting paid to
Speaker 3: play basketball.
Speaker 5: So that's what's I had one of the most epic
Speaker 5: mixtapes ever. Yeah, mixtape was fucking Banana, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: How did I miss this? I don't know that she
Speaker 1: was everywhere the mixday this, we put up some clips
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: What were you like when those mixtapes we're coming out though?
Speaker 3: For real, man, I was so getting Like the first
Speaker 3: time I saw you know, MySpace days, you know you
Speaker 3: see these Yeah, these guys they were falling around us
Speaker 3: with cameras and I was just like, dang, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like, you know, weird at first. But when they
Speaker 3: dropped that first mixtape on Ball's Life and who mixtape, Man,
Speaker 3: that ship, that ship took over.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like every week I was like, yo, you
Speaker 3: see that, like my have my mixtape ready.
Speaker 4: So but that was the way to get us.
Speaker 1: I'm watching that ship when I leave. I gotta see
Speaker 1: it now. I gotta see it now. I gotta see it.
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 5: I want to say though, because with all that you said,
Speaker 5: you couldn't get the grades to get the Arizona.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get you the monfucker Arizona for real.
Speaker 4: Well, well, well a lot of a lot of the reason.
Speaker 3: What was you know, Luke Olsen he retired at the time,
Speaker 3: so that was really changing my mom on mine. Joe
Speaker 3: Betis was telling me he wasn't going to come back,
Speaker 3: and then I didn't really know, Kevin O'Neill like that.
Speaker 4: So I was already on the fence of it a
Speaker 4: little bit and.
Speaker 3: Then you yeah, I was just like all right, whatever,
Speaker 3: like we'll figure something else out.
Speaker 5: Went tend to more hockey. Yeah, So how long did
Speaker 5: you stay in roll? How many games you play over there?
Speaker 5: I played the whole season season, I played the whole
Speaker 5: I played.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 3: The good thing about it, like having Sonny behind me.
Speaker 3: I was in the euro League, so a lot of
Speaker 3: those games were set.
Speaker 4: Up for me to be able to showcase.
Speaker 3: So I played against Travis Best, I played against Aerl Boykins.
Speaker 3: I also played against Ricky Rubio out there too, which
Speaker 3: was a highlighted game. So I got those games in
Speaker 3: that I needed.
Speaker 1: So you don't understand because you never had to go
Speaker 1: this route. So let me explain to you how it goes. No, Listen,
Speaker 1: you have you have a team, you play for your city,
Speaker 1: but euro League is when you play against other teams
Speaker 1: from other countries and o, and then they all have
Speaker 1: a winner. You're the winner of euro League. So that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily in your city. That's kind of euro euro League.
Speaker 1: So I just you didn't have to You didn't have
Speaker 1: to go that route. Killer was just explained it to
Speaker 1: the people at home and the people that never had
Speaker 1: to deal with that.
Speaker 4: Yo, Yo, why do you think more kids don't take
Speaker 4: that route?
Speaker 1: That's a great question, honestly, Honestly, to be honest, like
Speaker 1: you was different, bro, should I told you I struggled
Speaker 1: making that decision as a grown man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, as a twenty one, twenty two old man,
Speaker 1: I struggled to say, yes, I'm gonna go to Europe
Speaker 1: for a year and come back and chase my dreams.
Speaker 1: So for you to be able to do that as
Speaker 1: a teenager, regardless of kiss on the cheek from Sunny,
Speaker 1: that shit still was like you got to get yourself
Speaker 1: some credit for that because that you was making grown
Speaker 1: man decisions at a young age.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what though, I think I think it
Speaker 5: was heading that direction. Mellow went right, Yeah, it started,
Speaker 5: it started heading that direction. But then but then, like
Speaker 5: everything else in life, everyone combats it. Right, Okay, that's happening. Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna start, We're gonna start precking G League, you know,
Speaker 5: G League, Knight, and then college is like wait a second,
Speaker 5: hold the fuck up, that's you're gonna start taking Okay,
Speaker 5: now we're gonna start paying them. So everything had a
Speaker 5: domino fact. What you did was a domino effect. It
Speaker 5: was like it was starting to go that direction again.
Speaker 5: People were like, oh shit, he did it, he went ten,
Speaker 5: it worked out great for him, he got a shoot
Speaker 5: deal early, he got the ship done, blah blah. All
Speaker 5: that stuff started going to a transition. But just like aga,
Speaker 5: there's there's cause and effect. Right, Oh shit, we ain't
Speaker 5: gonna let that happen. So we're gonna start g league knight,
Speaker 5: We're gonna start paying motherfuckers in college n il.
Speaker 2: It's just you started the chain of reactions.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't let you answer that question? Just spoken like a
Speaker 1: true agent. I should have let you answer that question.
Speaker 1: Your answer was way better than mine. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: an agent question, that's what was.
Speaker 5: You started it like, and I'm telling you, man, I
Speaker 5: touched on before, but it was a real gangster move
Speaker 5: because that's an unknown for us, Like now people do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, but you did that.
Speaker 1: It was like, i't like, they don't understand this. This
Speaker 1: generation is I don't know if they understand the history
Speaker 1: of basketball. So you might not never get your flowers,
Speaker 1: but we can give your flowers. You started something, you
Speaker 1: feel started something, and that took. That took a lot
Speaker 1: as a young man, so I'm happy it worked out.
Speaker 1: Show congratulations.
Speaker 2: So tenth pick talk about draft night, Man.
Speaker 3: Draft night was crazy because you know, I was talking
Speaker 3: a lot of ship, you know, like during the job,
Speaker 3: you know, just off the fact that you know, I
Speaker 3: was a little mad because I wasn't playing.
Speaker 4: I was watching a lot of my peers, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know have high lights of college, so a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of overseas too. I was thinking, like, man,
Speaker 3: did I make the wrong decision?
Speaker 4: Like damn? Like did I really? Like?
Speaker 3: But when I got to them workouts and I was
Speaker 3: kicking everybody ass and stuff, and saw how advanced I was.
Speaker 4: You know, that's why I ended up tenth.
Speaker 3: I would have went a little earlier if I didnt
Speaker 3: say what I said about Rubio, But you know.
Speaker 4: I just couldn't help it.
Speaker 1: I was what you saying, Oh no, I was just
Speaker 1: saying I was.
Speaker 3: I basically said like I was mad because he wasn't
Speaker 3: working out, and I was like, well, why doesn't he
Speaker 3: have to work out and we have to all compete
Speaker 3: and stuff? Like so I was just like, you know,
Speaker 3: and I was like, well, if he's that good, you know,
Speaker 3: I was just saying stuff like no, I mean you know,
Speaker 3: but it.
Speaker 1: Was it was I feel you though, Yeah, especially when
Speaker 1: you were a young kid and you're looking for an
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove yourself, like relationship up.
Speaker 3: I think the video, I think we was working out
Speaker 3: with the Kings and me. You can see Johnny Flynn,
Speaker 3: Johnny Flynn just looking at me like bro, like he
Speaker 3: like bro.
Speaker 4: He put his head down.
Speaker 2: So that was that draft.
Speaker 5: That was Rubio because like like a gang of guards
Speaker 5: went top ten then like a gang of guards, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: we had Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I take I got traded that year sold because I
Speaker 2: got traded.
Speaker 4: That was end up being in Minnesota too. Yeah, Johnny
Speaker 4: Flinn and Rubio.
Speaker 1: End up being in Minnesota. I remember that. That was crazy.
Speaker 4: Tyreek Evans some guards.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah his spot, Yeah, you get his spot.
Speaker 5: Like when you get to the NBA, then everyone talks
Speaker 5: about the transition. So to me and you can answer
Speaker 5: this because you went through it, I feel like you'd
Speaker 5: have been even more prepared for the NBA transition into
Speaker 5: college kid.
Speaker 2: Was that is that true?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, for sure. Europe. Europe definitely helped out
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 3: And also being at ok Kill though, like you know,
Speaker 3: people don't like I was away for like I left
Speaker 3: Amingus in the tenth grade and I went to Okill
Speaker 3: for my junior and senior year, so I was away
Speaker 3: from home already, so being so actually actually being doing
Speaker 3: the like going to Europe was actually easier for me
Speaker 3: because it's like we'll already been away from home, so
Speaker 3: it's nothing, you know, I could just keep going.
Speaker 5: That's crazy you say that because I coached in college
Speaker 5: basketball for two seasons, and anytime I picked a kid
Speaker 5: who recruited a kid or a kid came that was
Speaker 5: at like Mount verd IMG one of the pre prep schools.
Speaker 5: They were six months or a year further along than
Speaker 5: any high school kid because the normal ship you.
Speaker 2: Do day to day, they'd already had it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't go to class. We don't go to class,
Speaker 1: play basketball and go to sleep. What woman, I'm telling
Speaker 1: the truth?
Speaker 2: Killer?
Speaker 4: God damn which your woman to lie?
Speaker 2: It's okay, Okill, Okill. How was that? Because I was
Speaker 2: middle nowhere?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okaill was great for me. I'm a sixteen year
Speaker 3: old kid, at the time I'm getting whatever I want,
Speaker 3: you know, all the hype and everything, but that was
Speaker 3: the time for me where I need to be alone,
Speaker 3: you know, learn how to wash my own clothes, learn
Speaker 3: how to you know, you know, dressing in uniform, getting
Speaker 3: up on your own, like getting to the gym. I
Speaker 3: used to go to the gym every morning at five am,
Speaker 3: just because of access it again, so yeah, I used
Speaker 3: to go to the gym. I used to go to
Speaker 3: the gym every morning at five at need to hear
Speaker 3: this five to six every morning because I was hungry,
Speaker 3: and you know, I knew this was my opportunity. This
Speaker 3: is the only way I was gonna make it out,
Speaker 3: you know, like that's the only way I was able
Speaker 3: to feed my family. So yeah, man, those two years
Speaker 3: of okill.
Speaker 1: I say this all the time life. I say this
Speaker 1: all the time. Bro, if you want something bad enough
Speaker 1: in life, you'll figure out and do what you have
Speaker 1: to do to get it, whether it be going to
Speaker 1: Oak Hill, whether it be going to Europe, whether it
Speaker 1: be getting up five are. If you want something bad
Speaker 1: enough in life, you'll do what you had to do
Speaker 1: to get it.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to leave people behind too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're getting it. I think that's the you know that.
Speaker 3: That was one of the key things to my life.
Speaker 3: A lot of off off the court things I was
Speaker 3: bott on with.
Speaker 4: I think we can relate. We can relate.
Speaker 1: Growing up in Miami and playing professional sports in the
Speaker 1: city of Miami. Dog was probably the hardest thing that
Speaker 1: I ever had to do, but it was the most
Speaker 1: rewarding and beneficial thing. The evolution the person you see
Speaker 1: right here sitting in front of you. I would say
Speaker 1: three sixty, but that I mean I turned around to
Speaker 1: be the same motherfucker. So it's a one eighty dog
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like being able to
Speaker 1: say no, being able to separate yourself from certain people
Speaker 1: in certain things. I got so many homeboys that passed away,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. While I was playing professional basketball,
Speaker 1: and there was a time where I used to be
Speaker 1: out the streets hanging out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing nothing crazy. I'm a basketball player, but
Speaker 1: I'm in the same situation. You know how they go,
Speaker 1: you with somebody and something pop up. You just with them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So obviously for me, I
Speaker 1: had to get to the point where I was able
Speaker 1: to separate myself from people lead, some people behind, and
Speaker 1: some of you brain wish you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some of you brain wishes something good for your mental health.
Speaker 1: Some people really got dreams and goes. And if you
Speaker 1: can help people out with your platform, then you do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest key for me when I when
Speaker 3: I tore my achilles after that was getting closer back
Speaker 3: with God spiritually. And I think, uh, you know, like
Speaker 3: outside of like outside of the hoop world, people don't
Speaker 3: really know how much we go through man life like mentally.
Speaker 1: Them dark knights. Nobody will talk about them dark knights, dark.
Speaker 3: Them, them crazy dark knights to where your mind is
Speaker 3: just wondering and you know you're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: And uh, the best thing for me was me getting
Speaker 3: back with my Lord and behavior.
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing better than that.
Speaker 3: That's that's why I was able to get this tough
Speaker 3: crowd thing going.
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