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Speaker 5: So that's what's I had one of the most epic

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Speaker 2: It's just you started the chain of reactions.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't let you answer that question? Just spoken like a

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Speaker 1: It was like, i't like, they don't understand this. This

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Speaker 2: So tenth pick talk about draft night, Man.

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Speaker 3: Draft night was crazy because you know, I was talking

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Speaker 4: Like damn? Like did I really? Like?

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Speaker 3: But when I got to them workouts and I was

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't help it.

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Speaker 3: I basically said like I was mad because he wasn't

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Speaker 1: Was it was I feel you though, Yeah, especially when

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Speaker 3: I think the video, I think we was working out

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Speaker 4: He put his head down.

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Speaker 2: So that was that draft.

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Speaker 4: That was end up being in Minnesota too. Yeah, Johnny

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Speaker 1: End up being in Minnesota. I remember that. That was crazy.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy you say that because I coached in college

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't go to class. We don't go to class,

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Speaker 2: Killer?

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Speaker 4: God damn which your woman to lie?

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Speaker 2: It's okay, Okill, Okill. How was that? Because I was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okaill was great for me. I'm a sixteen year

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time life. I say this

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Speaker 3: You know, you have to leave people behind too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That was one of the key things to my life.

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Speaker 1: Growing up in Miami and playing professional sports in the

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest key for me when I when

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