WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Drafting a QB Can Require Delicacy, Matt Damon

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Final Hour. On this Tuesday, the great actor

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon will join us. Coming up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He portrays Sonny Viccaro, legendary sneakerhead executive with Nike and

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<v Speaker 1>Reebank got all those coaches, you know, instead of schools

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<v Speaker 1>buying their shoes, it was you know, Sonny reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of Nike saying no, we're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes and we're gonna pay the coaches, and it

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<v Speaker 1>changed college basketball. He plays. Matt Damon plays Sonny Vicaro,

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<v Speaker 1>who is largely given credit for recruiting Michael Jordan too Nike.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also have Viola Davis who plays Michael Jordan's mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk to Matt about that because from what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told, Ben Affleck flew down to Florida to see

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<v Speaker 1>Michael at his golf course and they I think he

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<v Speaker 1>waited for Mike's blessing here and then it was, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have this, and you gotta have that. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to have Viola Davis as my mom. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only problem with that is you had to go get

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<v Speaker 1>Viola Davis then to play his mom. And we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm that that's what happened. So we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon about that. He'll be joining us coming up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Phone calls, we'll get to those as well.

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<v Speaker 1>tooth changing just a little bit where more entertaining. NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>tournament this year men's or women's women are now up

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty seven percent of Okay, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I hope that you watch on Friday night

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<v Speaker 1>because you do have a great South Carolina team going

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<v Speaker 1>against Iowa and Caitlyn Clark, who I think is the

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<v Speaker 1>best shooter man or woman in college basketball. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll have her hands full. South Carolina is going to

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<v Speaker 1>rough her up. The point spread right now is eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina is looking to go undefeated again and they

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<v Speaker 1>are the odds on favorite. Also, yeah, the two best

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<v Speaker 1>players at least the two players finalists for College Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year Leah Boston with South Carolina, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn Clark. All right, yes, poll question for our three Okay, possibly, okay, possible, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather have the skill set of Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>or Jason Bourne? Both super impressive? I would rather have

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan's skill set. Really yeah, I love Jason Bourne.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that, I'm not saying you're wrong, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I Marvel I would love to have Jason Bourne's

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<v Speaker 1>driving skills because those are some of the best chase

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<v Speaker 1>scenes in movie history. Have you ever seen. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him kill a man with a rolled up magazine. Yeah okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's an amazing skill to have. How often does

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<v Speaker 1>it come into play? I don't know. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was like a billionaire, I would pay the

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<v Speaker 1>government one hundred million dollars and be like turned me

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<v Speaker 1>into that dude, give me you'll let me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>all tho those he's not real. Yeah no, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's fun. Yes, you're waiting at the dentist's office,

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<v Speaker 1>someone gets out of line. You're grabbing us weekly and

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing they're gone. That'd be a great Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do that. Can't do that. Imagine you go into

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<v Speaker 1>like an embassy and all there is people training to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the embassy and you can kick everyone's button. Second

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<v Speaker 1>where you go to a safety deposit boxing, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>gun in cash And I felt like mcguiver was real,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Jason Bourne is created. It feels like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>mcguiver up. It's created by the Treadstone Project. Exactly are people.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to admit. If there's a Born identity movie on,

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<v Speaker 1>I am watching. I don't care where it is. When

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I go through my you know movies

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<v Speaker 1>there on drug TV. It's like, oh, there's Jason Bourne,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to ask him, could we see a

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Bourne version of Top Gun Maverick that maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>wait like twenty years, Damon will be in his seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's got one more movie. Jason Bourne. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to bring him back for whatever reason. Like Paula,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty good at coming up with scripts. Here, you

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<v Speaker 1>told me what Maverick Top Gun was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>about a year before it came out. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>the last Born Identity movie, I don't do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to wait until after No, I want to do it now,

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<v Speaker 1>get on record. Jason Bourne is living like in Malta,

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<v Speaker 1>all by himself and other things. Well, he's been out

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<v Speaker 1>of the public eye. He's been out of the private eye,

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<v Speaker 1>off the grid, as they say, for decades. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>new version of tread Stone, the bad guys with the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA whatever it is. There's that the new operative. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get out. It's like the new Jason Bourne.

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<v Speaker 1>He tracks down Jason Bourne says, help me, help me

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<v Speaker 1>get out, help me get out, and right before Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Bourne is able to help this young kid get out

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<v Speaker 1>who's the young Jason Bourne? Basically the bad guys kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next hour and a half Jason Barren

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<v Speaker 1>goes on and ask kicking Fest and everyone makes a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. There's the movie. Yeah, there's a movie. You

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<v Speaker 1>need one insighting incident and there it is. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>was the bad guy in Born movies? Was that Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Cox who's now in succession? He was one of them? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he the guy who was heading it up with

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Cooper part two? Yeah, Chris Cooper the Great Eye

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah. I watched the first episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>final season of sixth Session all very good. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, Yeah, it really is. Spoilers, No, No, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those where you always feel good about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself because every one of those people they're all despicable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's who do I Who's the worst person that

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<v Speaker 1>I like the most? Is kind of how I sort

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<v Speaker 1>through it all. But there's some great dialogue, really really

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<v Speaker 1>well written. Aaron Rodgers was on this show November twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, and I kind of stumbled onto something here

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<v Speaker 1>because I was going to ask him, you know, about

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<v Speaker 1>his teammates and eventually getting to Jordan Love being drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is after the draft, well after the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty five, twenty and I ask Aaron Rodgers, what

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<v Speaker 1>do your linemen get you for Christmas? Every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then they might give me a ball of Scotch? Um? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you were drinking on draft night? Scotch

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<v Speaker 1>or tequila? I was drinking tequila, mixed up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit I liked. I like Scotch, bourbon and some sipping tequila.

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<v Speaker 1>The friend of mine got me on. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>tequila that night. Did did the glass get Did you

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<v Speaker 1>put more in it when the packers were on the

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<v Speaker 1>clock or after the packers were off the clock? I

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<v Speaker 1>would say after probably yeah, But I didn't to my credits,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't refill. Um. I started with a strong poor

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<v Speaker 1>So I could just imagine you there that you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got tequila there and the packers and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a wide receiver. Here of course we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>the packers take Jordan Jordan Love. Did you know they

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<v Speaker 1>were taking him prior to the pick? Oh? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>found out just like we did about five seconds. Worthy. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so you found out five seconds before. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said who works with the NFL, that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't want to tell Aaron because if you're Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want them to draft your successor. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're trading up to get him. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, do you think, hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to get a hold of Aaron. I I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who makes that call. Who's gonna call Aaron?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not going. I'm busy over here. How

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Anybody want to call Aaron? Tell him we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take Jordan, and the Packers select Jordan Love. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you have loved to have been there? How many?

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<v Speaker 1>How many moments where you look and you go, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have been there, just to actually

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<v Speaker 1>here see the reaction of something. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those where you go, wait what, I don't know what Brett.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know how he reacted. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have been there with John Elway when

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos they selected Tommy Maddox how a UCLA and

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<v Speaker 1>Maddox was like twenty years of age, he was really young.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. That would have been interesting. Probably a few

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<v Speaker 1>of those. I don't know if you know. Farb's ego

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't care who they dravity ain't better

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<v Speaker 1>than me, or he's not gonna be my successor. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Aaron Rodgers went from he could go one

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of the first round, which he did,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how Farve reacted to that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he might have been caught up in something

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<v Speaker 1>else and didn't really care. All right, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>a couple other headlines here, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, the

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<v Speaker 1>women's final four, Joe Ellen pid you know, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's on his fault. It's just the NBA collectively that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play a couple of games, set out a game,

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<v Speaker 1>play a couple of games, set out a game. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a showdown with the joker. God, that's what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe he's hurt, But I'm sorry, you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt because of everybody else in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Ah, you're gonna play, I don't know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit out. Yeah, I played last night. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>play today. Why no, I just can't. I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>back to back like okay and Joe Wellenbie's a wonderful player,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can give him the MVP. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted I wanted those two to go at

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<v Speaker 1>each other one more time and maybe you know we

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<v Speaker 1>had JJ Reddick on last hour and he was great.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a lot of information, said that this won't

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<v Speaker 1>change his vote that you know, Embid wasn't there, talked

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<v Speaker 1>about all the great things that Embid does. I think

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<v Speaker 1>voter fatigue has factored in to this. I think Jannis,

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<v Speaker 1>although Yannis has missed a lot of games, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would have Imbid and Joker one one A and then

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<v Speaker 1>Yannis after that. But the Joker, you know, he went

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<v Speaker 1>through the motions, put up a triple double. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Hardened there, didn't have in Bed there. We miss

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<v Speaker 1>out in these moments we as fans, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the problem of the NBA. I can't count

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And you want to see how many times

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<v Speaker 1>do they face each other? Twice a year? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. You want to see that, yes more. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a stat recently Kevin Durant hasn't played Lebron in

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons, so they haven't gone head to head in

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons, which is nuts. By the way, the MVP

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<v Speaker 1>odds Joe l n B plus one oh five. The

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<v Speaker 1>Joker is plus one ten, so this is snug and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's Yannis after that. I don't think you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>co MVPs. I don't think we've ever had that. In

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<v Speaker 1>the MBA, you did have co Rookies of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was Dave Cowens and Jeff Petrie, and

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<v Speaker 1>you also had Jason Kidd and Grant Hill. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we had co Rookies of the Year. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever had co MVPs. Yes, Marth, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was one more. I want to say, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>out in brand I got to look it up. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there may have been one more Coworkie with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but never comvps, not to my knowledge. Yeah, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>I've got time to get let me get Andrew and Washington. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for holding What do you have for me? Good morning, Dana, Danna,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for taking my call again. Hey real quick, just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to put a bow on all the final four

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<v Speaker 1>stats from yesterday from the men's tournament. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you had the nineteen seventy nine since nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 1>no one, two or three seed being in the Final

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<v Speaker 1>four this year. But also it's since nineteen seventy that

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<v Speaker 1>three out of the four Final four teams are making

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<v Speaker 1>their debut in the Final four this year. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>just putting a bow on it. Follow my idea here

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<v Speaker 1>after yesterday's program, and you have Dan Patrick Takes a

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<v Speaker 1>Gamble podcast. Now, mister Seaton O'Connor is the president of

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<v Speaker 1>the Relegation president of the Relegation fan club. And if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is down the most units, maybe they get relegated

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<v Speaker 1>off the podcast when one Aaron O'Connor takes their place

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<v Speaker 1>to make picks with the guys. And from what he

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<v Speaker 1>told me, she could probably hang with that group. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little switch up there to get those guys

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to their tips. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Aaron might be a one and done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never fell out another bracket if I'm Seaton's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got the Final four, she's got Connecticut winning at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And didn't we look at the amount of money if

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<v Speaker 1>she had putting down, if she had put down one

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar one hundred dollar on those four teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>you would have made just under nine million dollars. She

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that all day, yesterday, all night, nine million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not fill out another bracket the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life because you are in the zero zero zero

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero three percent time. It's like as close to

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<v Speaker 1>a winning lottery ticket as you've ever come. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did a little math yesterday based off like ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>having twenty million people, you have about a one and

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand chance to have a perfect You have

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<v Speaker 1>the final four correctly. Yeah, nailed it. And it's about

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<v Speaker 1>guard plays, your wife said, And just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>she could absolutely hang with those fellas in the gambling podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, yeah, she could get after it, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>but not drinking. Well, I wasn't saying gambling. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you said gambling. You're talking about that she could

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<v Speaker 1>Your wife could party? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, which Shay

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<v Speaker 1>and Irving, Yeah she can. She can handle herself. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like sounds like a challenge that Shay and Irving

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<v Speaker 1>and Bad Larry and Dylan the graphics guy would love

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<v Speaker 1>to take her up on. I'm not not challenging anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just sounds like that she could fit into that group. Yeah, okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she can handle herself because we always talk about gambling

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<v Speaker 1>every Thursday with these guys and it always morphs into

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<v Speaker 1>devolves into drinking or something else. With Shay and Irving,

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<v Speaker 1>and you find out the fact that Shaye and Irving

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<v Speaker 1>has a Revolver tattoo on the side of his skull

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, he got a really short haircut, much

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<v Speaker 1>like my wife she has. Yeah. And then what's the

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<v Speaker 1>other tattoo on the other side of Shay's head? Something

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<v Speaker 1>with his kids names? Of course, yes, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Revolver with his kid's name. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin goes, he's got a tattoo on his head. I go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, he goes, it's I keep staring at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's okay. I thought he went to New York

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<v Speaker 1>and he got it big. Yeah. I look over and

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<v Speaker 1>because he had his head shaved and I'm looking, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, did you just get a tattoo on

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<v Speaker 1>your head? No, I've had that. Yeah. He's a real dealer, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he is. He is the real deal. But the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick takes a gamble with Bad Larry and Shay

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<v Speaker 1>and Irving and Dylan the graphics guy. Well take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>updated odds from DraftKings odds to win the NCAA title,

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut is the prohibitive favorite. Anybody want to guests? Who

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<v Speaker 1>has the second best odds to win the Men's NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>Tournament Seaton, Miami, Miami, San Diego State, Oh, then Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>then Florida Atlantic. Yes, yeah, I should have consulted Aaron.

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<v Speaker 1>She has Yukon beating San Diego State? Does she really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, they'll be odds too, apparently, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be. She's incredible. Yea, yeah that she is. Yeah, alrighty,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get a couple more phone calls in here. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>There he is Matt Damon, Big Time former Sexiest Man

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year, and actor film producer course Goodwill Hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays Sonny Viccarroll in the new movie Air that

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<v Speaker 1>hits theaters on Wednesday, April fifth. At what age did

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<v Speaker 1>you get your first pair of Air Jordan's. Uh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. Late late I couldn't. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have the disposable income for them in high school when

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<v Speaker 1>they came out, So I think I got I would

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<v Speaker 1>have got them after college. Actually, I was wondering, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up a Celtic fan. They wore Converse, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you wouldn't have worn Air Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>because Celtics they didn't wear Air Jordans. Now he transcended

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Those were definitely the hottest shoe, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before that it was you know, Adidas and Puma and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fat laces and all that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that was very much what Ben and I in our

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<v Speaker 1>in our high school we went, you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>one school in our in our city, so there were

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand kids. It was really like, you know a

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<v Speaker 1>good kind of cultural touchstone for kind of what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, like what was the cool music, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the cool And then I remember those shoes specifically just

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<v Speaker 1>before the Jordan's, and then the Jordans came and just

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<v Speaker 1>changed everything. Were you an athlete? No, I was the first.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the first class to letter in theater.

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<v Speaker 1>I have varsity letter in theater. You need a letter

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<v Speaker 1>jacket for that, you know, you had to buy the jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got the letter and it had the little

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<v Speaker 1>face comedy and tragedy on it. But uh, but we

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<v Speaker 1>had a great, great, great high school. And but again

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really big school. So you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>some contexts, you know, Cambridge where I grew, where Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and I grew up, was a basketball city like Pat Ewing,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh lived on my street where I should say I

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<v Speaker 1>lived on Pat Street. Um, so Ben and I weren't

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<v Speaker 1>making that basketball team obviously. You know when we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Ramal Robinson and we'd win the state championship.

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<v Speaker 1>We were we were in it every year. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember about Ewing on your block? Well, Pat, the

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<v Speaker 1>first game I ever saw in the Boston Garden, I

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<v Speaker 1>was ten and that was Pat senior year. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>I guess eight years older than me. So uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember going to the garden and I knew, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like this guy was from my hometown. He

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<v Speaker 1>lived at the end of my street. He was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a superstar already and he you know that someday

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to go to school where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was cheering with the high school kids. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was really exciting. I just remember it

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<v Speaker 1>being really exciting. And I I remember walking by him

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<v Speaker 1>at like the River Festival down on Memorial Drive and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, being all of four foot ten and

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<v Speaker 1>walking by a seven foot dude. It's like, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, how does this movie get How does

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<v Speaker 1>this script get to you? I got Ben Uh sent

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<v Speaker 1>it to me. He goes, he Ben found it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to ask him how he found it. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember how he found it or how he

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<v Speaker 1>came across it. But he said, I read this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, it's great. He goes, we should do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do it really quickly. You know, it's ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go. And um and uh. And I read it

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<v Speaker 1>and it was And I had that same every time

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<v Speaker 1>I picked this script up. I was stuck for It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you bump into Good Fellows on TV. It's like, up, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for two hours. I got, well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch the rest of this. But the script felt like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh, it's just it was a page turner,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really exciting with all these characters. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great yeah, a great kind of ensemble

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<v Speaker 1>group to you know, it was fun think about, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>who are we going to get to fill out this cast?

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<v Speaker 1>And the parts were all just terrific. Well, you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this after the screening in New York that working

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<v Speaker 1>with Violda Davis, it's like, this is easy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's we're wrapped by ten thirty in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we got to figure out what we're doing for lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>She was, she was that great as she placed Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's mom. Yeah. Yeah, and that actually came from Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Ben went to see him before, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we got too pregnant with the movie. We basically

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<v Speaker 1>Ben said, well, I really need MJ's blessing, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we we didn't want to do if he said, look, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how anything happened. Don't just just leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have left it alone. But actually what ended

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<v Speaker 1>up happening was Ben went to to to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him and he ended up Ben called me after I

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<v Speaker 1>was in New York. I couldn't go down to Florida

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<v Speaker 1>to see him. My kid had something that day I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember, but I was waiting for Ben's call to

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<v Speaker 1>see if we were going to go forward with this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, He goes, I got amazing news. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I got great news, and I got some bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, and he goes. The great news is

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, and he started to detail what Michael had

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>told him. Michael was very specific about George Raveling being

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie like that was where he first heard

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<v Speaker 1>about Nike, who he heard it from. Uh and Howard White, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as as being these absolutely pivotal people in

0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>at that time and beyond, but but specifically at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he Ben was trying to get details about

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<v Speaker 1>how everything went down, and and and Michael talked about

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>his mother, and he talked about his mother and with

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<v Speaker 1>such reverence, UM, and you know that it really was

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>really moving for Ben. And and Ben started to realize

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<v Speaker 1>how pivotal she was like for him and this deal

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<v Speaker 1>in his life and everything. And uh and Ben said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well all right, well was it clearly thinking to himself, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we gotta we gotta re you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to rework the script. But he goes, who should

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>who should play your mom? And before he got the

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>sentence out, Jordan was like, Viola Davis. And he seems

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely, that's it, And so Ben said, the the

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>great news he goes, I know exactly what we gotta do, Like,

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I have great direction for our rewrite. We have these

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<v Speaker 1>two new characters to bring it, and we really need

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<v Speaker 1>to expand Dolores Jordan and really make this hers. And

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, great, what's the bad news? He goes,

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>we have to get violent. We don't get La Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do the movie. I was like, oh, okay,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was like, I think I said

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>to him at that point, I was like, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>having to get Michael Jordan on your basketball team. You know,

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>she's an American treasure. So U but we rolled up

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<v Speaker 1>our sleeves and really went to work on the rewrite

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<v Speaker 1>and and uh and tried to write her a part

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<v Speaker 1>that was worthy of her, you know, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully she she she agreed to do it. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as you saw, she's just, I mean, she's just and

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it is that thing. I mean, I joke, but it's

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd show up for work and do you know,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a seven page scene with her? And when you do

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a seven page scene, normally in movies a two page scene,

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the longest you'll do. But I do with a long,

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>long scene with Viola, and you know, we'd be gun

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>by ten thirty in the morning and I'd have just

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>been in one of the best scenes I've ever been

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in in my career, and she's like, you know, we're like,

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>what else are we going to do today? Like I

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>think that just happened, Like it's really awesome working with

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody of that caliber. How important is it to meet

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the person that you're going to portray in the movie.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>It's depends. You know, I've done it both ways where

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I've played someone and not met them, and played someone

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and met them. You know, you're never it's not an imitation,

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's not what this movie really was trying to

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>do was capture the spirit of these people, right. It's

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't look like them, we're not. You know,

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>we're not. It's not about specifically who said what and

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I you know, because forty years later everyone's got their

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>own narrative of how exactly everything happened, and um, but

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I did speak with Sonny and and and what was

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>really interesting, um, because you know famously this you know,

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>after this whole Landmark deal, I mean this, I mean

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>completely historic deal happened. Um. You know, these relationships all

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>frayed and fractured, and you know kind of people got

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>fired and people left, and but you know there was

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>like sense of betrayal and acrimony and all this stuff.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>But what Sonny said was, look, this time that you're

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>making this movie about was the most joyful time. You know,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this was just he goes, We were the just great friends.

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think they all understand now. I mean, you know,

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Sonny and Phil are they're in their eighties and looking back,

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>like at what an amazing thing that they accomplished, and

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that all that stuff feels like it's kind of water

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>under the bridge. At least when they kind of look

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>back now, I think they it's not all jumbled together

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the way it might have been thirty forty years ago.

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like they're very generous about each other, at

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>least in the conversations I've had with them. It's not

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly de Niro in Raging Bull. But you did gain

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>some weight here playing Sonny. But Carrol. How hell, it's

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>not stressful gaining weight. It's stressful losing weight. Yeah, no, exactly.

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I can look at a pizza and gain twenty pounds.

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>That's easy. But I but Ben also had a body

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>suit for me. He wanted to put a little extra

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>heft on me, so so I put on probably twenty

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and then put on a body suit on top of

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that too, because there was really it was mostly just

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>for this one for one joke in the in the

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>movie where Phil and I are having a conversation about

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>running and we just like the idea that you know,

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this guy worked at a running company, right, never ran

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and never ran, and uh, you know the idea was

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>so loathsome to him. Um, So it was really all

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>for that kind of physical gag we're talking about. Damon

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the movie is Air. He portrays Sonny Vicarrol. Last time

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we had John, I think we got you in trouble

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>in Boston. What did I do? Uh? You got Brady

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>as a buccaneer and you were going to root for

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Brady in Tampa, Like I think you apologetic? I am

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>unapologizicut it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that guy. I

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>love that guy. It didn't mean I didn't root for

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the Pats. Of course, obviously watched the Pats and root

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>for the Pats, but I just really cheer on you know,

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>had David Ortiz been traded to another team, I still

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>would have kept an eye on him and cared about

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>how he did. You know, when someone does that much

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>for your team in your city, who's made you cry,

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Who's made you cry with joy? More Brady or your

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox, well, the two thousand and four Red Sox.

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I said this when it happened. When when

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I back up to Boston for the parade, and I

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>remember running up to Boylston Street and by myself because

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>my dad and my brother, everybody, we were getting my nephews,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>We were getting everybody to gather to walk down to

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the river to watch the duck boats as they went in.

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But I sprinted up to Boylston Street to see the

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sea as they came down that way by myself, and

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>found myself outside like a shaman or some bank, just

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>standing on the side of the road and crying out

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of gratitude for those guys. I loved those guys that

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, and all the subsequent teams, but

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that but that first one was I can't even and

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think people from Boston could tell you. It was

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like it relieved a kind of psychic It changed, It

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>changed us at a fundamental level, because you know, my

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>grandfather didn't see the Red Sox win. But it's like

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the Cubs, Matt. It changed the lovable losing Cubs, and

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it changed those fanilis like, it's weird that you almost

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>embrace who you are and then it's gone, and now

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who are you? Yeah? But who we were were not

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>just people who lost, but people who came so heartbreakingly

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>close and lost right, which was a painful state to

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>live in. Right, And so it did, and I agree

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it changed, it changed. I probably I follow it less now,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But I don't know that

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a bad thing, you know what I mean. I

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like I have a healthier I don't know it really. Yeah,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>the story that I told myself I was thirty four

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>when they won, they're thirty three. The story that I

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>told myself for all those years was it's never gonna happen.

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>It's never gonna happen. So yeah, I mean it did.

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>It brought me to tears, for sure. I'll leave you

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>with this. Could you see a scenario where you do

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>what Cruise did for Top Gun with Jason Bourne, that

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe Jason Bourne is sixty and comes out of retirement

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>or hiding. Yeah, I could certainly see if we could,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>if we could think up a good story, you know

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it would um, I would definitely do it. I love

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that character. I love It's been great to me and

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I love the story. So you know, if there was,

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>if there was a way to do it, I'm not

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not against it. It's nice to see. You know,

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a sixty year old Tom doesn't look sixty, by the way,

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how old he is. He's looks like

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's doing all of his own stunts. I mean,

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>he ruins it for you guys, I don't even try.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I I had dinner with him fifteen or

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>so years ago and I asked him about the one

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>where he ran around the outside of the building, you know,

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and that mission impossible. And he started the story by saying,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the safety guy told me I couldn't do it, and

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, and he goes, so I get another

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>safety guy. You lost me already, Like you win. You

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>You're you're the King. Yeah, congratulate the movie. Enjoyed it.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Always great to talk to you again. Yeah, thanks, Dan,

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Matt Damon, all right, he didn't pooh pooh

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>your script there born identity. Bring it back. Maybe wait

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like seven more years, ten more years, come back and

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>then he could be his version, Jason Bourne's version of

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Maverick a top gun Maverick Camp Jason Bourne back for

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>one more pay day. Yeah, get right to it. I

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>like the Tom Cruise didn't hear what he wanted to

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>hear from the safety guys, so you just get another

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>safety guy. It's like going to another doctor, you know.

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Lebron went to two doctors, said you should probably have surgery,

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>so he just went to the Lebron James of Feet.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>All right, last call for phone calls. What we learned,

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.400
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0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Glazer and you may know me for the world of

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>football or fighting, or even shows like HBO's Ballers. Well

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't know is for my entire life, I have

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>lived in something I refer to as de gray depression anxiety.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>So now I'm coming out with a new podcast, Unbreakable,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer, where each week,

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>while we talk about mental health, I hope to describe it,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.000
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<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Last Gonfer Phone calls what we learned once in store. Tomorrow,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the commissioner in Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, will join us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do I bring up the situation in the Phillies game

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<v Speaker 1>that happened yesterday in spring train. The catcher jt Ria Muto,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>he was getting a new ball from the Empire. So

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the second time, and he puts his catcher's

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>mint back and he was waiting for the umpire to

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>put it in his glove. Now, the previous time he

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>threw the ball to the pitcher himself. The umpire did,

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>but the catcher is, you know, you're trained to just

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>put your glove back. He'll put the ball in there,

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and then you throw it back to the pitcher. Not

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all umpires going to throw it out to the mount. Well,

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>the catcher, an all star catcher, puts his glove back

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't think he's going to put a ball

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>in it. Then the umpire gets ready to put a

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>ball in it, and it goes to the ground, and

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>then the umpire thinks the catcher is trying to show

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>him up in spring training in the fourth inning. He

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>turns and goes, yeah, runs him, and I go, you

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>have got to be kidding me. Are you that sensitive

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>in spring training in the fourth inning that you're going

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to throw the catcher out. Couldn't you just say, hey,

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know why, why didn't you leave your room mint

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>up there? Well you threw it out to the mount

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>last night. Okay, you know what. My bad. But the catcher,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>he's the reasonable one. He turns to the umpire, it's like, what,

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna throw me out for that? And it became

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the Hey, that's what it is. I'm going to run you.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is a guy who was in

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Triple A. This is an umpire who is trying to

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>get to the major leagues. This doesn't help you get

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to the major leagues. I don't need to see ego

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>in spring training in the fourth inning and you're gonna

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 1>throw somebody out because he put his catcher's mit back.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>You didn't put the ball in time. He brings his

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>catcher's mit back and the ball goes to the ground.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Should I bring that up to the commissioner? No? Yeah,

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>first not first question? Or knock it out? Well, we

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>could do that because he's having a good month. Because

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>how much he might not have any say over this.

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>They got, you know, umpires got their own union. I

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's gonna say, you know, we'll wait

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear a ruling, or let's let's see if the

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>discipline this on part. But it's spring training. Everybody has

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a great time in spring training. And I'm guessing the

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>catcher's probably like, all right, you're gonna throw me out

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of a spring training game, all right, get an early

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>start to my afternoon playing golf? Yes, yes, time? Could

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>he play the well, I didn't see that. We got

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>opening day coming up in a couple of days. But

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll you know, I'll take your word for it that

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to take a look and see what that

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>was all about but it well, it sounded like I

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been a big deal. He can't say that

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he didn't see something that has to do with this sport,

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>a spring training little catchers mid thing. Every time someone

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>gets ejected, does that go on? We all saw it, Todd, Yeah,

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>But he could say I'm not a big social media guy.

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that whatever that is that you guys saw that.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, so you think that he could use that excuse. No,

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he can't. I heard about it. I didn't actually see it. No,

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it's no, no, no, you shouldn't have been. It's the commissioner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw you out for that. Find a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the poll question setan Dan's controversy along, who would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather have the skill set of Michael Jordan or

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Bourne. My guy Mike here put it perfectly, Killing

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<v Speaker 1>people day after day has to weigh on your soul

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't live with that. So I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>say Jason Bourne. Well, well played. Jason Bourne right now

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight percent of the vote, winning over Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>winning a very poorly spelled Michael Jordan. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you screw up? Michael apparently it's not. Mike Kelle

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<v Speaker 1>Michale am I C H E. L. Michael Michael, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it close. This day in sports history nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three, the Jets owner, actually the New York Titans

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<v Speaker 1>owner at the time of the AFL, announced he's changing

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the New York Titans to the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets. On that play, I wonder if that was

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<v Speaker 1>a popular now well, because they were Chase Stadium, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessed with those planes flying over her. Oh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was so annoying trying to trying to do an interview

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Stadium with the Mets or a team that was

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<v Speaker 1>in town, and he'd be like, and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, and then he'd have to reask the question,

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<v Speaker 1>what else? Filling a great tough guy moment. Two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two, Greco Roman wrestler who was a champion in

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. By the way, Roulin Gardner had his middle

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<v Speaker 1>toe on his right foot amputated due to frostbite. He

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<v Speaker 1>had been stranded overnight in Wyoming on a hunting trip

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<v Speaker 1>for two days. You don't need a toe like a wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>You can lose a digit. I think we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him not long after that. Yeah, we had him on

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<v Speaker 1>yeah old nine toes Gardner. Yeah, I mean he could

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<v Speaker 1>still pick up a phone. I think the middle one

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<v Speaker 1>is the one you'd want to lose, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>the middle one? I'm really thought of that. We'll look

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<v Speaker 1>into it all right. Back to you, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>On this date, nineteen ninety two, Christian Latner turn Around

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<v Speaker 1>Jumper beats Kentucky and overtime one four one three East

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<v Speaker 1>Regional Final. Also in this day, the first team to

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<v Speaker 1>win the NCAA and the n I T in the

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<v Speaker 1>same year. Yeah, it happened. In nineteen fifty City College

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<v Speaker 1>of New York beat Bradley to win the NCAA title.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there another school that won the NCAA and n

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<v Speaker 1>I T in the same year. It just says the

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<v Speaker 1>first team to win. I guess they're leaving it open

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<v Speaker 1>to if a team decides to. Let's say, Yukon wants

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<v Speaker 1>to play in the n I T and win the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the n I T over yet I haven't, I've

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<v Speaker 1>only followed it. Yeah, when you were a kid, was

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<v Speaker 1>the n I T little kid? Were you the the

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<v Speaker 1>NT bigger? Yeah? Yeah, do you remember which point in

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<v Speaker 1>your life were that kind of morphed sixties? Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Maravich in LSU played in the n T

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<v Speaker 1>in the Garden against Marquette, and that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But LSU wasn't that good to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the field of thirty two. But I remember sixty

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of Texas Western, just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because it was such a big deal on all

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<v Speaker 1>black team versus an all white team in Kentucky, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that being a big deal, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching it. I think sixty seven with lul Sendor

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I really started watching the NCAA tournament. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nineteen sixty eight, your Dayton Flyers beat in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas in the n I T Yeah, I was been

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal off locally and they ended up playing UCLA.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the next year they played or sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>they played UCLA in the NCAA title game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was sixty seven Dayton against UCLA. Yeah. See, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got NI T games tonight, doesn't matter. Oh okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>you got North Texas versus Wisconsin and Utah Valley versus UAB. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it might might give that a spin. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's nit over yet. Okay, thank you nit wit and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you too. Uh. Let's see anything else on

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<v Speaker 1>this program, yes, seating anything. It's like fun day, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>fun day day. Tomorrow. We'll try to do better tomorrow. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we will. Every day is a super Bowl, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>that is. Let's go around the room what we learned

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<v Speaker 1>on the program. Imagine if Viola Davis said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling conflict, I can't do this movie, or you know what,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to play that role, then they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have had the movie that happens. Yeah it does. I mean,

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I clear my schedule to be in all those Sandler movies.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of these days he's going to learn I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be available for all those movies. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to turn down this stay man, that's right,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>chuck out. I still he's got a new movie coming

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<v Speaker 1>out on Friday, him and Anniston Murder Mystery Too or something.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not as well coming in as Sandman. He is

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, hey, Sam Man, he goes Danny Anniston,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, aren't you do a car to my

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