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Speaker 2: What's going on? John?
Speaker 3: Not much? Made the trip back living the dream here.
Speaker 3: I uh, I had a nice smooth flight back from DC,
Speaker 3: all right, but let's just be honest series, Okay, shut,
Speaker 3: I made a mistake and uh, that's not a mistake.
Speaker 3: I'm happy with it. But I'm moving apartments, okay, Oh no,
Speaker 3: And it's never good to do it during the season,
Speaker 3: And so I had to be out of my place
Speaker 3: by today, and so as soon as I got back yesterday, like,
Speaker 3: I immediately went to my other place and just started
Speaker 3: getting whatever was left. I did most of the move before,
Speaker 3: but it's never great to do that during like when
Speaker 3: you're about to leave, like you know, go to DC,
Speaker 3: because I'm just thinking, man, my planes delayed and all this,
Speaker 3: like this is not going to be good or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I just finished that up last night. So I
Speaker 3: didn't get really watch a ton of National Championship game.
Speaker 3: I grew heavily against the University of Michigan, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't going well, so I didn't want to watch it anyway.
Speaker 3: But the move thing during the season is the dumbest thing.
Speaker 3: I think it is the worst. I just I really
Speaker 3: wanted to get out of the place I was in,
Speaker 3: and I really wanted to get in this other place.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, so that's what I've been dealing with.
Speaker 3: So not that you guys care, but you.
Speaker 2: Got out of that. I mean at the buzzer, you're
Speaker 2: you're good. Oh yeah, yeah, you turned in the keys already.
Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna do that today. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 3: in there, so good.
Speaker 4: I have like a looming situation that's like upcoming because
Speaker 4: my lease ends right in the middle of training camp,
Speaker 4: and I'm what the hell am I going to do?
Speaker 2: I had that problem. Yeah, yep, it is the same
Speaker 2: exact thing we made. We bought our house.
Speaker 1: Six days before training camp, not even six days, and
Speaker 1: then we got back and within six days we moved
Speaker 1: into the house. So it was just left. It was
Speaker 1: vacant for like a month while we were gone, and
Speaker 1: then we moved into the house.
Speaker 2: And within within three days.
Speaker 1: Of us moving into the house is whenever I figured
Speaker 1: out that Lorena was pregnant, and then we were having
Speaker 1: a kid at that point, one kid and now it's three.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I get you, but you might.
Speaker 3: Be fine as a multitasker. I'm not I'm terrible. So
Speaker 3: when the season goes when the season goes on, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's just locked in Cowboys stuff during the season.
Speaker 3: So to do this during I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 3: very overwhelming for me. Most people are probably like, it's
Speaker 3: not that big of deal. I would have been finally
Speaker 3: life stuff, yeah, yeah, which is fine, which is fine.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's that type of type of sacrifice John and showed
Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, Cowboys fans out there, Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: ever were were interested on John's background, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's making sacrifice.
Speaker 3: I mean, really, my whole life is based around the deal.
Speaker 3: I mean, the place I live, everything is in location
Speaker 3: of this facility, you know, I mean it really is.
Speaker 3: My whole life is built around covering the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: during the season. I try not to have any distractions,
Speaker 3: and I have this distraction right now that I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To get rid of.
Speaker 1: John's going to be living out of a tup aware
Speaker 1: the next my new.
Speaker 3: Place just boxes and everything just everywhere, like it will
Speaker 3: sit there until whenever the season.
Speaker 4: No, I say, like you have a pet, like that
Speaker 4: pet is just dying for the count.
Speaker 2: No one because of that.
Speaker 5: Because of that reason, it'd be too much work.
Speaker 3: So at one point I was roommates with David Hellman
Speaker 3: and he had a dog, and I think it was Josie. Yeah, Josie.
Speaker 3: I don't think I was traveling yet.
Speaker 6: Maybe that was what it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But anyway, what happened was is like
Speaker 3: there'd be a lot of times, like during road games,
Speaker 3: where like he'd have to board the dog. And so
Speaker 3: because of that, I was always like, I'm not getting
Speaker 3: a pet. Why I cover the team just because I
Speaker 3: don't want to have to do that all the time.
Speaker 3: So no, no pet.
Speaker 1: I know y'all's conversations in both of your senses of humor,
Speaker 1: I could just see you given him all sorts.
Speaker 2: Of flack for that. Oh yeah, like are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna go board that animal?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave probably felt like awful about it because he
Speaker 1: loves that dog, and yeah, it was just.
Speaker 2: The whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get into some news and notes
Speaker 1: we just heard from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 2: Going into Tuesday.
Speaker 4: We did we could start with so defensive coordinator Dan
Speaker 4: Quinn has been generating quite a bit of interest from
Speaker 4: from various teams don't say yeah, And he's not the
Speaker 4: only one. According to Jerry Jones, Will McLay was reported,
Speaker 4: i think either late last night or earlier this morning,
Speaker 4: that he's generating interests from the Commanders and Panthers for
Speaker 4: their GM jobs, and Jerry was kind of asked about both,
Speaker 4: and he said that there are several assistant coaches that
Speaker 4: have generated interest. He said he expects close to fifteen
Speaker 4: to twenty total interviewer interview requests across the board by
Speaker 4: the end of the hiring cycle. So I guess, you know,
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer might be might be thrown into that equation, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, with him not being an offensive play caller.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that that could be another team's pitch to
Speaker 4: Kim one if if they if they were.
Speaker 5: To land him.
Speaker 4: Obviously, Dan Quinn, we've gone through two hiring cycles and
Speaker 4: he's still you know, a part of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4: So they're gonna try to go three for three here,
Speaker 4: I'm sure this coaching staff. And yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 4: to deal with this time of year, obviously, with the
Speaker 4: playoffs starting and Black Monday in the past now, and
Speaker 4: you know, opening's kind of figured out already and who's
Speaker 4: gonna end up where.
Speaker 5: So this is a fascinating time, especially with this coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't see will leaving. I mean you
Speaker 3: have to take these these interviews, no question about it.
Speaker 3: But the dan Quinn thing, that's a lot more up
Speaker 3: in the air, just because it's been multiple years where
Speaker 3: he's sat there and had these opportunities to you know,
Speaker 3: return to being a head coach, and you just look
Speaker 3: at like the Eagle situation, that's the way it is
Speaker 3: going forward. You have a good team, teams, teams are
Speaker 3: trying to take your assistant coaches. So, uh, I get it.
Speaker 3: If you're a Cowboys fan, you look at this and
Speaker 3: you're you know, you might panic or whatever, like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know we could lose dan coinn or whatever.
Speaker 2: But you don't know.
Speaker 3: And I will say this. The one other thing is
Speaker 3: that some people might look at all this could be
Speaker 3: a distraction, you know all you know, teams in the
Speaker 3: playoffs and now all of a sudden, the coaches doing
Speaker 3: interviews or whatever like that. Like dan Quinn has done
Speaker 3: so many of these. He's a pros pro that's not
Speaker 3: going to take any anything away from him getting ready
Speaker 3: for whoever their opponent is Packers this week and whatever
Speaker 3: going forward. So that just comes with it. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're a good team, that's how it is. I mean,
Speaker 3: I've seen it this year with the Lions. You know,
Speaker 3: like the Lions are generally not a team that people
Speaker 3: are like trying to get their assistant coaches, but their
Speaker 3: offensive defensive coordinator is getting tons of interviews. So that
Speaker 3: just comes with it. If you're going to be a
Speaker 3: good team, you're going to have this happening you all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: And it's always going to go into the playoffs because
Speaker 1: that's when teams are looking. Black Monday's already in the
Speaker 1: rearview mirror and teams are making their moves. You also
Speaker 1: look at i mean, look at the Super Bowl teams
Speaker 1: last year. You have Philadelphia on one side and you
Speaker 1: have Kansas City on the other side. Those coordinators all
Speaker 1: pretty much all four of them, I think it was
Speaker 1: three of the four took new job in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: That you had both of the coordinators for Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: then he had Eric b Enemy go to the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator job in Washington. So it is interesting to see
Speaker 1: just how much of that does come down going into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Of course, none of it's going to come
Speaker 1: to light until after that team is eliminated or however
Speaker 1: long that ends up running.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the juggle game, I guess at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, and there's nothing that the Cowboys
Speaker 4: can do to control that real quickly.
Speaker 1: Which one do you feel like would be the most
Speaker 1: significant loss out of the two, Will McLay or dan
Speaker 1: Quinn Will McClay, Yeah, I think so too. And it
Speaker 1: may not be the biggest name because dan Quinn's going
Speaker 1: to be at the coach and he'll be out there
Speaker 1: and it'll be in the news.
Speaker 2: But if Will McClay walks, that's a massive blow.
Speaker 4: You look at the way this roster has, but it
Speaker 4: constructed since Will McLay has been here. I mean, his
Speaker 4: footprint is his fingerprints are all over it.
Speaker 2: Footprint footprint too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I guess he's kicking the door in his
Speaker 5: his prints are all over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, he's big on those those verified measurement, verified
Speaker 4: athleticism numbers that come out of the draft. He's he's
Speaker 4: big on, you know, looking for those really small school
Speaker 4: guys that have been able to come in and he
Speaker 4: prefers that athleticism and you can see it on the team,
Speaker 4: especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn has been a big part of that as well.
Speaker 4: So I think I think Will McClay would be the
Speaker 4: bigger loss just because you would have to account for
Speaker 4: that just personnel mindset, and it's hard to find, you know,
Speaker 4: completely because everyone has a different personnel mindset in the
Speaker 4: scouting department. So I think that would be the bigger
Speaker 4: loss as far as replacing him.
Speaker 3: So yeah, i'd agree, especially just because of the fact
Speaker 3: of where this team is right now. You know, all
Speaker 3: the guys, the ones on the wall behind you, right there,
Speaker 3: and he's over here. I mean he's you know, helped
Speaker 3: draft those guys and they're all making lots of money.
Speaker 3: And so for UH to pay Dak and CD and
Speaker 3: Mike of those next contracts, you're going to really be
Speaker 3: relying on the draft going forward and finding some gems there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, losing what would be would be huge.
Speaker 2: You said, he you don't anticipate him leaving?
Speaker 3: Why we Well, he said, he has said this a
Speaker 3: bunch and I don't think it's changed. I mean, his
Speaker 3: one of his top goals is that he wants to
Speaker 3: win a super Bowl with Jerry Jones, you know, and
Speaker 3: he's close with the Jones family. He's obviously been here.
Speaker 3: I know, he really likes it here. Yeah, not just
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, but living in Texas and that, and so
Speaker 3: I think it would be easier for him to move
Speaker 3: to another gig if they were coming off winning the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, but not when you know, it's kind of like,
Speaker 3: I mean, last night's a good example, Like there's a
Speaker 3: part of the Jim Harbaugh story where he went back
Speaker 3: to his own matter and he's going to try and
Speaker 3: turn this thing around finally, you know. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: just getting owned by Ohio State for like two decades,
Speaker 3: and he turns it around. They went three in a row,
Speaker 3: gets them in the in the colleg Football Playoff three
Speaker 3: years in a row, and then finally wins the National Championship.
Speaker 3: Because of that, I think he's gone, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and for Will, if he was to, you know, they
Speaker 3: were to win a super Bowl here, maybe then I
Speaker 3: just think that that's something he really wants to do,
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm not saying that he his way,
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be surprised if he does or not,
Speaker 3: but when you I'm sure he feels like they're close.
Speaker 3: And I'll just use it as my own perspective from
Speaker 3: my own job. And I've probably told you guys this before,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I ever said it on
Speaker 3: the air before, but one of my biggest fears would
Speaker 3: be to cover another team, to leave this beat when
Speaker 3: the Cowboys won a Super Bowl. I would be sick
Speaker 3: to my stomach if I left and then they won,
Speaker 3: you know, because it just it's just different, you know,
Speaker 3: And and people can sit there and that don't like
Speaker 3: the Cowboys and it's all America's team and all that,
Speaker 3: and it's not whatever. This is just but it is different.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are different. So and I don't know if
Speaker 3: you took it this way, but Jerry on the radio today,
Speaker 3: I kind of felt like was saying that like in
Speaker 3: a way, like you know, when he said the thing
Speaker 3: about exon, I was kind of feeling like he's he's
Speaker 3: not gonna come out and say like this is the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. We're gonna be fine, We're gonna get people.
Speaker 3: But but it is just it is just different. And
Speaker 3: so if you feel like they're close, like I'm sure
Speaker 3: Will does. I think it'd be really hard to leave this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: Moving on to Stefan Gilmore and Tyler Smith and news
Speaker 4: coming into this week.
Speaker 5: We didn't touch on it yesterday.
Speaker 4: It was to find Gilmore but dislocated his shoulder and
Speaker 4: the win against Washington and was able to pop it
Speaker 4: back in place on the sideline, had the second half
Speaker 4: with a sling over his shoulder, and then told Mike
Speaker 4: McCarthy after the game, I'm good, I'm gonna be ready,
Speaker 4: and then told reporters after the game in the locker
Speaker 4: room that he felt great and that, you know, it
Speaker 4: just kind of depends on the week. And that was
Speaker 4: more of what we heard yesterday from Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 4: then this morning again from Jerry Jones. Sounds like he'll
Speaker 4: probably get a rest day tomorrow on Wednesday, if I
Speaker 4: would have to guess, and then probably limited on Thursday
Speaker 4: and or Friday. But I fully expect to find Gilmore
Speaker 4: to go on Sunday. It appears he'll probably wear one
Speaker 4: of those harnesses under his jersey on the to protect
Speaker 4: the shoulder.
Speaker 5: I wonder how much of his you know, movement will be.
Speaker 4: Conflicted with but we'll just kind of see as the
Speaker 4: week goes on, that'll be a little bit more clear.
Speaker 4: And then Tyler Smith sounds like he's gonna get ready
Speaker 4: to go this week as well, dealing with that horn
Speaker 4: planner fashion that he suffered against Detroit obviously, but it
Speaker 4: sounds like they're looking forward to getting him back on
Speaker 4: the field and this week in a limited practice fashion
Speaker 4: and then play on son Aegasreenbay, So.
Speaker 2: Good news on both fronts.
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmour starting with him specifically, I mean we asked
Speaker 1: Barry Church on postgame show coverage of when you're wearing
Speaker 1: brakece like that on your shoulder, how can that affect
Speaker 1: you as a defensive back?
Speaker 2: How can that affect you?
Speaker 1: Of course Barry played safety, but he was saying from
Speaker 1: a cornerback standpoint, it's not going to affect you as
Speaker 1: much because you can still move, you can still use
Speaker 1: your hands, you can still be.
Speaker 2: Semi physical, probably not as physical, especially in the run game.
Speaker 1: Can't come downhill and just hit people with your shoulder
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But it is going to affect
Speaker 1: you just from a physicality standpoint, in terms of the
Speaker 1: actual coverage ability in the way that he's able to
Speaker 1: defend the pass, it shouldn't affect Stephan Gilmore too much.
Speaker 1: So great news, especially in a scary moment where he
Speaker 1: was being held coming off the field. I thought it
Speaker 1: could have been.
Speaker 2: A lot worse.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and we go back to that, the Trayvon
Speaker 3: Diggs injury. I remember, you know, that was the talk.
Speaker 3: Then it was just well, that's a big loss. But
Speaker 3: then it's also one of those you look at the
Speaker 3: depth at the position, like a significant.
Speaker 2: Drop only year you probably could right, right, And.
Speaker 3: So when this is two games now where Gilmore has
Speaker 3: been kind of slow to get up on different things recently,
Speaker 3: and you just think, okay, well there's a big drop
Speaker 3: off if you don't have him. So even him with
Speaker 3: a harness and maybe being say ninety eighty five percent,
Speaker 3: I mean, you'll take that to over the fact or
Speaker 3: the possibility of you not having him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was funny this morning hearing Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: talking about being healthy going into the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: was talking specifically about this team. He wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: set him up any better, he wouldn't want to put
Speaker 1: him in his position better.
Speaker 2: The first thing that popped in my head was.
Speaker 5: Man, I would love Trayvon Yeah, that's really too too.
Speaker 1: I would love on this roster. I'd love Layton Vandersch
Speaker 1: on this roster two. I think overshown it would be
Speaker 1: a huge piece.
Speaker 2: But I get what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, overall, this the health of this team, that
Speaker 1: cornerstones of this franchise. They are healthy going into the postseason.
Speaker 1: I completely agree they're in a good spot. But man,
Speaker 1: it would push him over the top if you had
Speaker 1: guys like that available.
Speaker 5: Look was Stefan Gilmore.
Speaker 4: And Nashan Wright because that was who kind of came
Speaker 4: in for Gilmore after he got hurt on Sunday. How
Speaker 4: catastrophic would it be if Gilmore couldn't play right?
Speaker 2: Why do we got to talk about this?
Speaker 4: I'm just throwing it out there. How is it a
Speaker 4: catastrophic thing? I think about na Sean Wright. I see
Speaker 4: a strong training camp, honestly, that he had a preseason
Speaker 4: that he put together where he had some really shining moments.
Speaker 5: But he hasn't really been trusted on the field just
Speaker 5: yet so far this year.
Speaker 4: Battled a little bit of injury early in the season two,
Speaker 4: and we haven't quite seen that third round type talent
Speaker 4: from Nashan, right, since he's been in Dallas. So is
Speaker 4: it a huge catastrophic loss Stefan Gilmore cannot.
Speaker 5: Play on Sunday? That's I think it's a reasonable thing
Speaker 5: to kind of look at.
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd use the word catastrophic. But
Speaker 3: if I was ranking, you know, the roster and players
Speaker 3: that you can't afford to lose, he's certainly in the
Speaker 3: top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd say top five probably borderline top five, borderline
Speaker 4: top five, I mean.
Speaker 1: Okay, dak micah cd CD, Yeah, those are top three,
Speaker 1: no doubt. The top three is then often I would
Speaker 1: say two offensive linemen, probably Zach.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've we've seen you can survive without Zach.
Speaker 5: But that's why I would put like Gilmore above the
Speaker 5: offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you feel better about Brockoffman and t J.
Speaker 1: Bass behind him. What about Tyron Smith?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's biguma. Yeah, depends on who you're going against.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tyran Smith's gotta be.
Speaker 5: Tyro Smith's probably the only offensive lineman. Would put it
Speaker 5: on hil.
Speaker 1: Moore pretty rough after that, but yeah, I think Gilmour's
Speaker 1: border Damon. Yeah, just because you don't have anybody else period.
Speaker 5: Clark goes down. Who's off a linebacker one?
Speaker 2: Thomas, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean it's it's yeah, it's rough, it's ya.
Speaker 2: Buddy Johnson, Yeah, yeah, off of the practice.
Speaker 4: Squad probably probably, so he's been getting those elevations and
Speaker 4: then the elevations reset this week or reset for the playoffs.
Speaker 5: They can elevate whoever for the playoffs, so that'll obviously
Speaker 5: help the double.
Speaker 2: Is there a limit in the playoffs? Is it only three? No,
Speaker 2: you can go all four games?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yep, So I was curious. We will see
Speaker 5: how that that goes down.
Speaker 4: But other than that, other than those two notes, we
Speaker 4: talked to coordinators yesterday, there seems to be some confidence
Speaker 4: in this building for going going into this week, going
Speaker 4: into the playoffs, and no one came out and said it,
Speaker 4: but this is probably the the opportunity that they feel
Speaker 4: best about, you know, getting the Packers in the first round,
Speaker 4: avoiding both the forty nine Ers and the red Hot
Speaker 4: Rams until the NFC Championship game at the latest.
Speaker 5: You know, these these first two rounds at home too.
Speaker 4: You couldn't have asked it to be set up much
Speaker 4: better and you feel the confidence around this building and
Speaker 4: you felt it yesterday talking to Mike McCarthy, talking to
Speaker 4: the coordinators.
Speaker 5: You know they feel good going into this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big thing for me with their position that they're
Speaker 3: in because I agree with Jerry Rell, the health is outstanding.
Speaker 3: With all things considered, you look at other teams and
Speaker 3: where they're at. Everyone, like when you mentioned tray Bon Diggs,
Speaker 3: there's every team like that's in there once. If it's
Speaker 3: not a guy that's missing, it's somebody that's banged up
Speaker 3: right now that you'd love to have them at one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. But the thing for me that makes it
Speaker 3: feel like this could be different is that they're battle tested,
Speaker 3: that the things that they've done the last couple of
Speaker 3: years have put them in a position that nothing that
Speaker 3: should happen going forward should be any bit of a surprise.
Speaker 3: No matter what happens. I mean, you have to go
Speaker 3: to San Francisco. You've already gone to San Francisco, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's going to be tough. Everybody knows that they're going
Speaker 3: to be favored and they're probably the better team, But
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that in this league of parody, that
Speaker 3: you can't have the better day when that game boom,
Speaker 3: you're in the super Bowl. You know, like this Packers team,
Speaker 3: are they really battle tested? Not really the Lions.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: So it's like you look at like the Eagles, the Niners,
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys, those are the teams going into this playoffs,
Speaker 3: they are like, yeah, those are the teams that they've
Speaker 3: kind of been through it. And now with the way
Speaker 3: the Eagles are playing, I don't think anybody looks at
Speaker 3: them as that type of thing. And frankly, if you're
Speaker 3: a Cowboys fan, you would want to play the Eagles.
Speaker 3: You'd want them to be the team that you would
Speaker 3: have to go against because it'd be at at and
Speaker 3: T Stadium. You know. For a long time, I know
Speaker 3: I was thinking that, well, if they're gonna go through
Speaker 3: the Eagles, they're gonna have to go to Philadelphia. January
Speaker 3: could be, you know, just awful weather, bad, ugly game.
Speaker 3: But they've gotten all this from the last two years,
Speaker 3: built up with so many key players in this team
Speaker 3: that they should be ready for whatever happens. Come out
Speaker 3: in a slow start, they shouldn't blink. They should be
Speaker 3: able to respond to any anything that that happens. Then
Speaker 3: because of what they've gone through.
Speaker 4: So I said this yesterday, I'm curious your opinion, John,
Speaker 4: there's no excuse why this team shouldn't win two games.
Speaker 2: None, There's no excuse.
Speaker 3: Of my I thought of it literally when you talked
Speaker 3: about the Gilmore thing, I was like, even without them,
Speaker 3: they should be able to win offense alone, CD and DAK.
Speaker 3: The level they're playing at is good enough for me
Speaker 3: that I believe with them playing at home, they should
Speaker 3: beat the Packers, they should be the lines. They should
Speaker 3: be in the NFC Championship game. Then whatever happens from
Speaker 3: there happens from there. But yeah, no, it's a disappointment.
Speaker 3: They don't get the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And there's been reports out there about McCarthy's future and
Speaker 1: the tenure with the head coach.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily buy it.
Speaker 1: I think there is a concern on playoff success, and
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be.
Speaker 2: A level of interest from the fan base in his future.
Speaker 1: I think his futures locked up. That's just my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be here. Based off of Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones's answers, and based off of really the way that
Speaker 1: this this current franchise feels about their head coach.
Speaker 2: They look to him now more than they ever have.
Speaker 4: I agree with you, but I think there is a
Speaker 4: difference between making it to the NFC Championship game and
Speaker 4: stumbling against the Packers in the wildcard round.
Speaker 5: And how quote unquote locked up you are?
Speaker 1: You know, end of sure, because if you come out
Speaker 1: and you lay a egg against Green Bay, then.
Speaker 2: Then maybe we can have that conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that's where things get a little bit. But
Speaker 4: that's where talking points get made. Yeah, because that's going
Speaker 4: to be everything that's talked about next week. Is that,
Speaker 4: you know, playoff success hasn't been here, even though twelve
Speaker 4: one seasons have.
Speaker 5: But let's get to the game first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to play the games right, all right.
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Speaker 1: Our first text message that I saw today, it's from
Speaker 1: a six to zero nine says, can you guys start
Speaker 1: a rumor that Jimmy Johnson's going to be at the
Speaker 1: game this weekend, just so we have more Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: there than Packer fans.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a strategy play there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you expect a lot of Packers fans? John?
Speaker 3: I mean there shouldn't be more than well, yeah, there
Speaker 3: should not be more than Cowboys fans. That would be embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, especially this year, it's wide out, it's right,
Speaker 1: a big, big game.
Speaker 3: And then just where the Cowboys are at, I mean
Speaker 3: they're just this is a team that could go to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Like, I don't think Packers fans are
Speaker 3: looking at this Packer. I mean they're looking at this
Speaker 3: package and like, well where did this come from? I
Speaker 3: just yeah, there's gonna be a lot of Packers fans there,
Speaker 3: just because there's a lot of Packers fans in the country.
Speaker 3: But it's not gonna be like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Sunday and our nation's capital.
Speaker 2: I mean that was so bad. Yeah, what was the percentage?
Speaker 2: Eighty eighty percent? Cowboys fans don't get me out in there, so.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, seventy at least seventy, you know, walking in
Speaker 3: just and then walking around the concourse and things like that.
Speaker 3: I watched two series down in the stands when the
Speaker 3: game started, and I mean like all behind the Cowboys
Speaker 3: bench was like a Cowboys home game for sure. And
Speaker 3: then just the Upper Bowl wasn't complete sold out, so
Speaker 3: that that you got to factor that in too, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'll say seventy as as.
Speaker 2: As an official number. Hey, but official estimate.
Speaker 3: If you're a Commander's fan, why would you go to
Speaker 3: that game? No, you know, this is like a hated rival.
Speaker 3: You know, they're probably going to win. The only reason
Speaker 3: you'd go is to play spoiler.
Speaker 1: You know, so I didn't know you're probably going to
Speaker 1: get beat thirty eight to ten, right, I mean, if.
Speaker 4: You're a Commander's fan, you probably show up in a
Speaker 4: Cowboys uniform so that you can get the number two
Speaker 4: overall Pick's true too cheering for the opposite.
Speaker 3: I think the Packers fans will probably look like there's
Speaker 3: more than there probably are, just because if you if
Speaker 3: Cowboys fans are wearing all white and then they're wearing
Speaker 3: green and yellow, that's going to stand out. So it'll
Speaker 3: probably look that way, But I don't think it'll be
Speaker 3: I don't know, twenty five percent maybe at the most.
Speaker 2: Gotta be that's it. Maximum Cowboys Nation, get out.
Speaker 3: The understand why Cowboys fans wouldn't be pumped to go
Speaker 3: to this game.
Speaker 2: You got to be pumped to go to this straight
Speaker 2: home games. You're eight to zero at home.
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is kind of asked about it this morning
Speaker 4: about like, do you try to box out Packer fans
Speaker 4: from from you know, getting tickets?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a moron, so I just helped me
Speaker 3: out here. Guys, how could you do that?
Speaker 4: There is a way that you can like section off
Speaker 4: zip codes from buying tickets. Yeah, like it's exactly Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's the exact uh big big brain work.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of Packers fans that just
Speaker 3: live down here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's it's still gonna stand near impossible
Speaker 4: to do it completely.
Speaker 3: But so what you do is you buy the ticket
Speaker 3: yourself if you're a Packers fan, and then any of
Speaker 3: your friends that are coming down from Green Bay or
Speaker 3: whatever like that. Like, I just don't think that it
Speaker 3: would be I just think would be too difficult to
Speaker 3: try and you know limit that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going to go to the game, if
Speaker 1: you are set as a fan at least I know
Speaker 1: it in my experiences, if you know you're headed to
Speaker 1: an event and you want to go, you're gonna find
Speaker 1: it anyway.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, get into the game.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're going to text a friend, You're going to
Speaker 1: text a family member that you've never talked to in
Speaker 1: three years to try and ask, Hey, you live in Dallas,
Speaker 1: can you possibly buy us tickets?
Speaker 2: Does in that matter?
Speaker 1: You're gonna my fight a way into the middling scalp
Speaker 1: at the game. Yeah, it doesn't geofence anybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on there. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 11: Good morning guys.
Speaker 2: How you doing great? How are you good?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 11: A couple questions. Well, first of all, statement, this weekend's
Speaker 11: game brings me back to the sixty six game, which
Speaker 11: was my first Dallas Green Bay Championship game with Leon Donue.
Speaker 11: Missed that block on Dave Robinson clause and Meritith to
Speaker 11: throw a pick in the end zone.
Speaker 2: Remember that like it was yesterday.
Speaker 11: There you go. Hey, I'm I'm struggling with dan Quinn's defense, okay,
Speaker 11: last not this past week, but Prider that those last
Speaker 11: couple of drives to me, he's playing not to loose.
Speaker 11: Seems like the aggressiveness gets somewhat diminish, and he's playing
Speaker 11: not to lose rather than to win. And I find
Speaker 11: I have an issue with that, and that's maybe just
Speaker 11: me that's maybe my observation. The other thing I know,
Speaker 11: Nick yesterday mentioned that, you know, Lee Karen Steele has
Speaker 11: played better than what people might think. I disagree with that.
Speaker 11: I think we have two big holes in that offensive line,
Speaker 11: Faddish and Steel. And I'm wondering if if Collins looks
Speaker 11: good at any point, if Steel struggles, do they go with.
Speaker 2: Do they go with Lyle Collins?
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I'll hang up and listen to what you think.
Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, appreciate you. Dano a couple of questions there.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the defensive side of that.
Speaker 3: Let's start with your memories of the sixty six game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first, good time. Well, I mean the Packers went
Speaker 2: on to win Super Bowl One.
Speaker 1: The next year they came back met in the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game again, nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: That was also known as the Ice Bowl. Ice Bowl.
Speaker 2: Nice job, negative thirteen degree weather. Don't like that. I'd
Speaker 2: have done. I guess what happened.
Speaker 1: Cowboys lost, Green Bay went on they won Super Bowls
Speaker 1: one and two underneath legendary head coach Vince Lombardi.
Speaker 2: I've heard of him. Yeah, he's he's on the trophy.
Speaker 2: Now ever heard of his work so good thing.
Speaker 4: So if if the Cowboys win those games instead of
Speaker 4: the Packers, is that the Landry Trophy instead of the
Speaker 4: Lombardi Trap.
Speaker 1: Very good shot, honestly, I mean there were a lot
Speaker 1: of things that Lombardi did well, but yeah, but you
Speaker 1: gotta win.
Speaker 2: If you're the first one to win it, it could
Speaker 2: be the Tom Landry Trophy.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, are we gonna start with defense?
Speaker 2: Start with defense? Okay, unless you want to start with
Speaker 2: Lyele Collins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd rather start with that.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Lyle Collins.
Speaker 4: Came at me a little bit, but it's fine. I
Speaker 4: think he may be misundertood what I said yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe I said Terren Steel's been playing better
Speaker 4: than people that think. But what I'm more I was
Speaker 4: saying that he put together seventeen games of being on
Speaker 4: the field for every single snap up until that those
Speaker 4: final couple series yep on Sunday, and he really struggled
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season, and he started to
Speaker 4: stack really good games over the course of the back
Speaker 4: half of the season.
Speaker 2: I would argue that the bad half he's played better
Speaker 2: than most people think.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I would argue that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're season
Speaker 5: not so much.
Speaker 2: We're talking Week nine against Philadelphia not so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was kind of strap second half
Speaker 1: of the season, weeks ten through eighteen.
Speaker 2: He was playing better than most people think.
Speaker 4: As far as like putting in Lyle Collins in place
Speaker 4: of him, if things aren't going well, that's just not
Speaker 4: going to happen.
Speaker 5: That's just not going to happen in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 5: That's yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Completely agree, Yeah, completely agree. Injury is the only way
Speaker 3: that I could see them putting Lyle like Terry have
Speaker 3: to get hurt. Uh yeah, right, But as long as
Speaker 3: Terrence is healthy, he's he's going to stay out there.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna They're not going to move in Lyle
Speaker 3: like that. I just I know they look at Terrence
Speaker 3: as is a piece of the future. I don't think
Speaker 3: they would do that to him on just some bad play,
Speaker 3: you know, And I don't think he'll be he would
Speaker 3: be bad enough that that that they would turn to
Speaker 3: that anyway. I just I don't know where Lyle's at
Speaker 3: in terms of being able to step in right away,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, there's yeah, he's in shape, looks good,
Speaker 3: obviously said all the right things we talked to him
Speaker 3: last week. But you know, playing in in playoff games,
Speaker 3: is he ready for that? He might be, but I
Speaker 3: don't know that there's gonna throw him out there. If
Speaker 3: we really don't like the way this guy's playing, let's
Speaker 3: go through Alysle and there. I don't see that happening.
Speaker 3: I just think they're too deep into this season to
Speaker 3: get to the spot where they're at for them to
Speaker 3: change that up there.
Speaker 5: What was the other question?
Speaker 2: It was dan Quinn. He's worried about dan quinns. He's
Speaker 2: not alone on that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot I've seen that on Twitter a lot
Speaker 3: after these games, that people think that they're going to
Speaker 3: too much pre event. I just me personally, I don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't think that that's just a Cowboys thing.
Speaker 3: I think that's just the way football's played nowadays.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go out on a limb and
Speaker 3: say that dan Quinn probably knows more about defensive football
Speaker 3: than all of us, and there's probably a reason he
Speaker 3: does that. So I guess I'll be the idiot and
Speaker 3: lean on that.
Speaker 5: You look at these.
Speaker 4: Final three games, that they played after the Buffalo game,
Speaker 4: and they're only given up eighty eight yards per game
Speaker 4: on the ground. They've forced five turnovers in those three games,
Speaker 4: and they're allowing seventeen points per game. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: this defense is kind of hitting his stride right now.
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about the defensive unit as far as
Speaker 4: it being too conservative at times.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't see that as a major issue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the only I think the two major
Speaker 4: things that I look at as far as like I
Speaker 4: would put under cons on this defense are one, there's
Speaker 4: just kind of.
Speaker 5: A lack of size.
Speaker 4: They have sacrificed that for athleticism in a lot of
Speaker 4: areas on all three levels. And then two being able
Speaker 4: to handle speed. And then other than those two things, like,
Speaker 4: I don't have any concerns about this defense.
Speaker 2: One of the.
Speaker 1: Questions on our text line six p. One nine asked
Speaker 1: the last caller mentioned Dan Quinn. Is there a possible
Speaker 1: successor in the building if Slash win he leaves, who
Speaker 1: can use these players and their skill set the way
Speaker 1: that Quinn intended to be the be the next defense.
Speaker 2: I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I don't know Mike McCarthy's wanted previous head coaches to
Speaker 3: be his DC, and he said that before he started
Speaker 3: calling the offense. Yeah, so I don't see how he's
Speaker 3: not hiring somebody that is a former head coach to
Speaker 3: be his DC.
Speaker 5: I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think I think two guys on the defensive staff
Speaker 4: could be coordinators one day, not necessarily saying that they can.
Speaker 3: Oh no, there's those guys, but I'm saying Al.
Speaker 2: Harris for sure. Al Harris was the first one I
Speaker 2: thought of.
Speaker 5: It would probably be Joe.
Speaker 2: Specifically here, it would be Joe Witt, definitely.
Speaker 3: I would just be very surprised. The only way I
Speaker 3: could see it may be happening is if they won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and they were like, let's just try
Speaker 3: and keep this super as much as possible. But I
Speaker 3: find it very hard to believe that it isn't going
Speaker 3: to be somebody that's been a previous head coach.
Speaker 2: All right, Marco in Italy, We're going across the pond.
Speaker 12: What's up Marco, guys, good morning, Thank you for having
Speaker 12: me back talking to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, good to talk to you.
Speaker 12: Yeah to three three good points. So from I wanted
Speaker 12: to share with you mind about Jake Ferguson. I mean,
Speaker 12: I really like the guy who's it's such tough. He
Speaker 12: gets hit with hammers from defenders when he goes through
Speaker 12: the middle and while stands up saying, this is the
Speaker 12: best that you can do. Do you have anything else
Speaker 12: to thought? I love the guy. I love his toughness,
Speaker 12: and he reminds me of Jason written. I'm not just saying.
Speaker 12: I'm not saying that today he's like Witten. Obviously we
Speaker 12: do hope that one day he will be. But his toughness,
Speaker 12: the way he plays did end reminds the middle victim.
Speaker 12: And I just love the guy. What can I say?
Speaker 12: I love the guy. Then the the question that I
Speaker 12: have for you is looking at the forty nine ers,
Speaker 12: and we obviously hope that you know, we we cross
Speaker 12: papped with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 13: Job.
Speaker 12: I don't know whether we hope it, but it may
Speaker 12: be that we cross Pappy with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 12: Game three of their losses came with a sc North
Speaker 12: tos the Browns, the Bengals and the Ravens now. I
Speaker 12: don't know whether there's a just a matter of chance
Speaker 12: or to the common denominator. The way the AFC North
Speaker 12: places football. That is just tough for the for the
Speaker 12: knives to digest again. Question for you, you know more
Speaker 12: than me. I'll be happy to hear it. And then
Speaker 12: the final your thoes. I need your help on one thing.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, go Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You have to buy a lot of cheese steaks for
Speaker 1: those teams because the Eagles lost five of six. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of cheese steaks. Gotta find a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said he got to pick a team. Probably the
Speaker 1: Cardinals is the first one because that's the one that
Speaker 1: opened the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at I'm looking at the combined weight of
Speaker 4: both teams, and I'm taking the team with the lower combined.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's next level, thinking that's chest, not checkers.
Speaker 12: I like that.
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Speaker 1: And then he was talking about the AFC North teams
Speaker 1: that beat the forty nine ers, the Browns, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Ravens.
Speaker 2: The AFC North.
Speaker 1: Beat everybody their first team or first division to finish
Speaker 1: above five hundred in like eighty years something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody means above five hundred.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, And I do buy it in a
Speaker 3: little bit into that whole playing outside. You know, there
Speaker 3: there is like a toughness because I will say, I
Speaker 3: do think you have to be tough to beat the Niners.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can finesse them if you're going
Speaker 3: to beat them. So I think that's probably part of it,
Speaker 3: that the style of play probably factors in. But I
Speaker 3: do think that this Cowboys team, now, it is built
Speaker 3: and they do play, as mich McCarthy would say, it's
Speaker 3: a dome team. But I do think that they can
Speaker 3: play tough when they need to. And I think of
Speaker 3: if they got to the NFC Championship game, all that
Speaker 3: would be on the line. The fact that this is
Speaker 3: the team that ended your season the last two years,
Speaker 3: you know, the whole Cowboys Niners rivalry. I think that
Speaker 3: they would play a pretty tough game. I don't think
Speaker 3: that they would get punched in the mouth and that
Speaker 3: would be the reason they lost. They might, they might
Speaker 3: lose because the Niners are a better team and they
Speaker 3: just play better at home. But I don't think that
Speaker 3: they'll get punched in the mouth and embarrassed. I don't
Speaker 3: see that happening at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, especially going back to Santa Clara too,
Speaker 4: given what happened in Week five, as you mentioned, gosh,
Speaker 4: it would be meteoric the hype if they were able
Speaker 4: to get that done. Going you have two weeks to
Speaker 4: let the super Bowl build. That would be a lot
Speaker 4: of fun to just cover and be a part of.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got to get their first two more games.
Speaker 4: But that is a tough team, really tough team.
Speaker 1: I just had like, not even flashbacks because it's never
Speaker 1: happened before, but just like a flash forward of, like
Speaker 1: you said, the metiorc hype of what it would take
Speaker 1: if you go when you win these two home games,
Speaker 1: you win against the forty nine ers, which is easier
Speaker 1: said than done. And then you're going into the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with that hype going into it. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be astronomical.
Speaker 2: Uh, we've got one more phone call.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our first or our second break though
Speaker 1: before we get to it. We'll get to you in
Speaker 1: a moment, Mike in New York. Yes, when we come
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Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys. What's up? Mike?
Speaker 12: Here we go.
Speaker 11: Ahead.
Speaker 13: I had to I had to do guys. But anyways,
Speaker 13: suppose the Cowboys go up? I uh, biggest health can
Speaker 13: soone is obviously everybody. But I hope Zach Martin can
Speaker 13: come back. I know he's out with the illness the
Speaker 13: other day, so it's kind of you know, if he
Speaker 13: comes back from that, I'll be I'll be happy. And
Speaker 13: like you said, everybody caught across the board. We need
Speaker 13: everybody on deck for this one.
Speaker 3: I want to be Green Bay so bad.
Speaker 13: It's say it's say, I was thinkingating was like tomorrow,
Speaker 13: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Mike, and always great points bringing up Zach
Speaker 1: Martin and.
Speaker 2: He always brings so much energy.
Speaker 5: I love Mike.
Speaker 1: I love it man, that's awesome. Uh, here's the thing
Speaker 1: about Zach Martin. He's got to be back, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just a quick illness.
Speaker 4: I think they caught it. I think he caught it
Speaker 4: just on the wrong day. Of all days, he caught
Speaker 4: it on the wrong day. If he caught it on Saturday,
Speaker 4: probably would have been able to get my v's.
Speaker 5: In, get some treatment in and play on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If he caught it obviously yesterday, then obviously you know,
Speaker 4: he'd be fine. I'll probably this up coming Sunday. I
Speaker 4: think he woke up on Sunday felt ill. And that's
Speaker 4: it's what kind of started the snowball effect of eventually
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 5: With the team on the trip, right, Yeah, he traveled.
Speaker 5: He was fine on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was Sunday morning, woke up, did not
Speaker 4: feel well, felt like death, and yeah, and then brought
Speaker 4: off and stepped in and bt B.
Speaker 5: According to Dak Prescott, big time brock stepped.
Speaker 3: So I liked that, and I was looking through the
Speaker 3: pictures that they always you know, they're posted on the
Speaker 3: team's Instagram account, like everybody's like just like at these
Speaker 3: right now. Okay, so like, hey, guys, what's up? You
Speaker 3: know the picture? Cool? Everything's great?
Speaker 2: What's up? Good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Okay, guys are walking out man hotel. This is fun.
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson, what's up, guys, What's I don't feel good?
Speaker 3: It's not time for a picture.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are we doing? I don't want to do
Speaker 2: in the picture now. Yeah, he is certainly the to
Speaker 2: I guess that's that one's mine. But yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: He that did not seem like he was ready for
Speaker 3: the wanting to participate in the pregame photo shoot.
Speaker 2: Oh poor guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they're honestly, like, that's what you guys. Look
Speaker 3: at it more from a Cowboys Perspective'm not a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3: I look at more of just an NFL like outside
Speaker 3: perspective type thing, and I'm just like, like Zach was
Speaker 3: dealing with an illness, He's gonna be back to a
Speaker 3: playoff game. Tyler Smith is gonna be out there. They
Speaker 3: didn't play him because the planner fasciot, why not buy
Speaker 3: him another Let's be honest, too, they knew they were
Speaker 3: going to beat Washington. Let's let's buy him another week.
Speaker 3: You get Jonathan Hankins back, and then you avoided a
Speaker 3: catastrophic Stefan Gilmore injury for the second time in the
Speaker 3: last three or four weeks. Like you're in great shape
Speaker 3: going into the playoffs with all things considered, you know,
Speaker 3: so yeah, Like, I don't think that you could ask
Speaker 3: for much more. I think it would be unrealistic for
Speaker 3: you to sit there and expect that you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: a trade on Diggs, that you wouldn't have a Marvin Overshown.
Speaker 3: That stuff just happens. It's NFL football, you know, Like
Speaker 3: that you're going to have those Like all things considered
Speaker 3: with the you look at who are the most important
Speaker 3: players and the ones that could make the biggest difference
Speaker 3: in any of these playoff games. Like they're almost all there,
Speaker 3: you know, and and healthy and playing well.
Speaker 2: So kind of along those same lines, the seven oh three.
Speaker 2: This is Noah in Washington.
Speaker 1: He says, what makes this team better than the last
Speaker 1: two playoff teams for the Cowboys is that a big
Speaker 1: part of it, or is it.
Speaker 2: More than that.
Speaker 3: Well, I think experience is the big one, you know,
Speaker 3: just because, like I said earlier, having gone through it.
Speaker 3: But the other one with me, and I thought about
Speaker 3: this a lot after the game, was just the way
Speaker 3: that Dak and CD are playing and the level that
Speaker 3: they're on makes me think that they're going to be
Speaker 3: in every game that they play. You know, there were
Speaker 3: just times in some of these previous seasons where I
Speaker 3: just didn't see them having that same type of rapport.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously twenty sixteen you had some of that with Dak
Speaker 3: and Zeke being rookies and it was just kind of
Speaker 3: like they could do no wrong in that. But I
Speaker 3: don't know that they were playing as well.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Of course you can come back and say, well, they
Speaker 3: were probably running the ball better than they are right now.
Speaker 3: They're obviously not running it well. But I just think
Speaker 3: Dak and CD are playing on a level of that's
Speaker 3: the type of stuff that you see. Again, I'm not
Speaker 3: looking at this as being a Cowboys fan. I'm looking
Speaker 3: at this as just an NFL observer, and that's the
Speaker 3: type of stuff that you see, like getting high at
Speaker 3: the right time and that being a difference in the
Speaker 3: postseason because they're clicking and making huge plays in big moments,
Speaker 3: because let's be honest, there's not gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of blowouts like these are going to be tight games
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. And I thought it was another
Speaker 3: another good sign as the previous colors said Jake Ferguson, Uh,
Speaker 3: I just think that where he's built to you can
Speaker 3: trust him, you know, and you can trust Brandon Cooks
Speaker 3: and what it just seems like every week that that
Speaker 3: rapport is built with Dak too. So what they've done
Speaker 3: through the passing game, I think is the thing that
Speaker 3: gives me the most reasonably. They were just there were
Speaker 3: there were moments, not that I watched all of the
Speaker 3: game last night, but where you're just kind of like,
Speaker 3: how many more quarters are you going to play this this?
Speaker 3: And for Washington to score another touchdown, you know, like
Speaker 3: it just didn't seem like it was gonna happen no
Speaker 3: matter what. Like Michigan wi is just leaving the door
Speaker 3: open for him, and they just weren't going to score.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you do that to this Cowboys team,
Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna score. I just feel like that
Speaker 3: they have the rapport uh and that they're playing at
Speaker 3: a level that they hadn't been playing in years past.
Speaker 3: And then also Mike McCarthy calling the plays. He's been
Speaker 3: in a lot of big games. He's got a lot
Speaker 3: of experience in these situations, and so I think those
Speaker 3: are the other things. But health is really high in
Speaker 3: the list for me.
Speaker 4: I agree, experience, and then this offense, the way he's
Speaker 4: playing right now, and the CD kind of had a
Speaker 4: moment after the Buffalo game where it was it wasn't
Speaker 4: as bad as it I don't want to say bad,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't as loud as it was after the
Speaker 4: San Francisco game when he was like, get me the ball,
Speaker 4: but it was kind of the same kind of rhetoric.
Speaker 5: It was like, you know, we got to get me
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 3: Like, that's funny that it's funny that your brain told
Speaker 3: you to say bad because at the time it was bad.
Speaker 3: At the time, it was depending on where this season goes,
Speaker 3: talk about how big that that moment was, because that
Speaker 3: could be such a turning point for the entire season.
Speaker 3: But it's so funny you say bad because that's the
Speaker 3: way I would think of it in the moment when
Speaker 3: it happened, You're just like, that's not a good look
Speaker 3: to have him off to the Why are he normally
Speaker 3: is over there with all those guys? Why is he
Speaker 3: over there by himself? Like you can tell he's like frustrating.
Speaker 3: Really brought me back to like some of the times
Speaker 3: with Des Bryant when he was just real frustrate. But
Speaker 3: you just got used to seeing that from Desh, like, hey,
Speaker 3: he's just passionate, that's why.
Speaker 2: He goes about.
Speaker 3: But you don't really see that much from CD. And
Speaker 3: so that that is interesting that you would say bad
Speaker 3: at first, because I did think that too, But every
Speaker 3: week that's coming by, since I keep looking back on
Speaker 3: it and going, man, that might have been the best
Speaker 3: thing that happened to them.
Speaker 4: I get a credit McCarthy and with that whole deal
Speaker 4: as well, because he took that time to bring CD
Speaker 4: into his office and talk that out during the week after,
Speaker 4: and I think those conversations really spoke a lot more
Speaker 4: towards the rest of the season than even that moment
Speaker 4: in the locker room after San Francisco, but kind of
Speaker 4: had like a slightly similar moment after Buffalo where it
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I mean, this is just a moment
Speaker 4: where we couldn't get me the ball.
Speaker 5: We got to get me the ball.
Speaker 4: Those three games since quick math, thirty two receptions, four
Speaker 4: hundred and forty three yards and four touchdowns and three
Speaker 4: games like that's good.
Speaker 5: It's pretty that's up there.
Speaker 2: Pretty good.
Speaker 5: That's up there.
Speaker 4: So I think as long as CD is getting his
Speaker 4: I don't have any problems with this offense. And then again,
Speaker 4: I don't have any problems thinking these next two games
Speaker 4: don't work out.
Speaker 1: Markel from Houston asks us for our final question here
Speaker 1: on this talking Tuesday, what percentage would you give the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to win it all from this very moment? And
Speaker 1: we've talked percentages all year long. By the way, Markel's
Speaker 1: said his birthdays in two days, so they're definitely fellow Capricorn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, they're definitely winning this game. Let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about it because percentages, I mean, four weeks left in
Speaker 1: the regular season gave the Cowboys a nine percent chance
Speaker 1: to win the division, and they ended up winning the division.
Speaker 1: So numbers don't matter a whole lot. And we're four
Speaker 1: weeks from the super Bowl, so chances of winning at
Speaker 1: all what would you give.
Speaker 3: It fifteen to twenty percent. I would say, I think
Speaker 3: that there's a fifty percent chance that it's either the
Speaker 3: Niners or Ravens, and then I would put the Cowboys
Speaker 3: in with everyone else in that other fifty percent, you know,
Speaker 3: to break it down between them the Bills. You got
Speaker 3: to give a little chunk of that pie to the
Speaker 3: old Chiefs just because of what they've tblished in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm looking at your computer right up. Man, I
Speaker 3: just can't believe how much the Eagles have fallen.
Speaker 1: It's it is bad because I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: that too. How many teams do I think can win it? Yeah, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: San fran done, They're no doubt they can totally win it.
Speaker 1: Buffalo Dallas absolutely. I think both of those teams are
Speaker 1: good enough to win it the city because of what
Speaker 1: they've done before. I know they've got their own problems
Speaker 1: as well, but you can't count out Patrick Mahomes the
Speaker 1: next one. I was like, okay, Philadelphia, Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: Miami if they turn it on, they were as good
Speaker 1: as anybody.
Speaker 2: They were in the same conversation.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of Yukon basketball last year.
Speaker 4: Where they just went through like a two week stretch
Speaker 4: in January where they were awful and well, this team
Speaker 4: you make the tournament, and then they were the best
Speaker 4: team in the tournament.
Speaker 5: Won ever get my double digits?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: The only thing I keep going back to on the
Speaker 3: Eagles is just like the history of when you lose
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, especially one where you had a chance
Speaker 3: to win, there usually isn't a rebound the next year.
Speaker 3: It's usually, I mean, it's usually much worse than the
Speaker 3: season that they've had. But there is something about the
Speaker 3: way that this season ended that I've thought about that
Speaker 3: a lot. And then also the whole like curse of
Speaker 3: you can't win the NFC East two years in a
Speaker 3: row like it is. It is just wild how that
Speaker 3: that collapses happened. I never would have saw that.
Speaker 1: I'd say, I'd say I'm right around with you in
Speaker 1: between fifteen and twenty percent, because I think there are
Speaker 1: six teams legitimately that can win it, and that would
Speaker 1: put you in about fifteen percent ish fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I'm at right now. Then I
Speaker 1: would of course skew that a little bit in favor
Speaker 1: of maybe Baltimore or San Francisco because they have the rest,
Speaker 1: but Dallas has a shot.
Speaker 2: They absolutely have a shot, but.
Speaker 5: Yours, I'd say about to say fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2: Fifteen twenty, you're like eighty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll revisit this next week. May maybe come
Speaker 1: back and see if the percentage is higher.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like it could be any higher until
Speaker 4: they play San Francisco. Like, you could ask me the
Speaker 4: NFC Championship week and I would probably still say fifteen twenty.
Speaker 2: I'd probably be a little higher.
Speaker 4: I don't think so because like that, again, I expect
Speaker 4: them to win these two games. I expect them win
Speaker 4: the wildcard. I expect them to win the divisional game.
Speaker 4: I don't expect them to win an NFC Championship game.
Speaker 4: I don't expect them to beat the Ravens in a
Speaker 4: super Bowl. I don't expect them to compete with the
Speaker 4: Ravens in the super Bowl. To be completely honest, but
Speaker 4: that's Ravens. That's way down there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fell that they got there, Like like you saying
Speaker 3: on Sunday, they got play the Ravens to win in
Speaker 3: a wildcard round. I don't like that, But you tell
Speaker 3: me that they got to the Super Bowl and they
Speaker 3: went they're going to be right and so high that
Speaker 3: and again just the one game like elimination, I could.
Speaker 3: I don't think that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it would be a coin flip for me.
Speaker 3: If they get to Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl, it's a coin flip.
Speaker 1: There's a long way to go, long way, long way
Speaker 1: to go. And tomorrow we're gonna focus a little bit
Speaker 1: more in on the wild card round because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have the Green Bay Packers, a team that they can't
Speaker 1: overlook in their own right. Uh, gotta be better against
Speaker 1: the run, gotta be better against Jordan Love. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on this week and we're gonna
Speaker 1: preview the Dallas defensive matchup tomorrow against that Green Bay offense.
Speaker 1: Isaiah should be back, unfortunately after his Washington Huskies couldn't
Speaker 1: get it done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't call in this morning, didn't call in
Speaker 5: this water for him.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow to.
Speaker 1: Preview Packers Cowboys defense versus offense when we come back
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