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Speaker 1: of quarterback play. On Tuesday, he spent seventeen minutes going

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Speaker 1: be our guest at three fifteen. Now time to bring

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Speaker 1: in my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Let's discuss the number

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Speaker 1: any issue on this team, and that is the play

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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. They gave up eight sacks against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and eighteen quarterback hits, although according to head

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Speaker 1: offensive line, but that's just not the truth after this game,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and again it's there are we we

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Speaker 1: And so again I'm not I'm always. I'm always. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's some things that we're improving on, and um, we'll

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Speaker 1: continue to improve on as the season goes. That being said,

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Speaker 1: Joe was contact something? Did those differ from maybe some

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Speaker 1: If Vontest Berfect had hit a quarterback like that, it

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Speaker 1: the options are on the table as far as the

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Speaker 1: and get him give him more optus and make plays

427
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: as well. Brian when you were talking about receivers stretching

428
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: the field. I think you said that Aj can still

429
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: do a little of that. There was a time that

430
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: he there was a time that he did a lot

431
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: of that. Does that kind of reflect where he is

432
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career. I think he just

433
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: he's just coming off of a hamstring injury that limited

434
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: him for most of Camp. I think he feels finally

435
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: feels like he's fully ready to open it up, and

436
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of good things so far. He's

437
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: put a lot of content the balls that have been

438
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: first downs and good plays for us to move the

439
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: chains down the field, and finding ways to get aged

440
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: down the fields and more too, is something that you know,

441
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: we need to keep keep prodding and pushing to get

442
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: to that spot. I don't know that it's effect of

443
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: anything other than um, you know, kind of how the

444
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: games have fallen, the types of scheme we've seen, and ultimately,

445
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, being able to get in a position to

446
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: throw those balls down the field. You know, we missed

447
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: him in the Chargers game. He was he was open.

448
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a factive other than just

449
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: just gotta gotta connect on some of the deep shots

450
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: and then you've got to find ways to get them there.

451
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: In the last two weeks, at least when I've been watching,

452
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't see great separation between AJ Green and the

453
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: guys covering him. And Denzel Warden Darius Slay are two

454
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: to the better cornerbacks in the NFL, So that has

455
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: something to do with that. But we're talking about AJ Green.

456
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: It didn't matter who covered him in the past, the

457
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: best corners in the game at least a few times

458
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: during the game, he was going to fake them out

459
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: of their jock and be wide open. AJ Green's body

460
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: language oozes with uncertainty in my opinion, you know, like

461
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: I think Brian Callahan said, he's kind of feeling his way,

462
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: you know, out there on the football field. And I

463
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: concur one hundred thousand percent, and I've said it a

464
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: million times and I'll say one more. He's a REP guy.

465
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: He will tell you I'm a REP guy. I need

466
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: to be on the football field doing it over and

467
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: over and over again. He's not a guy that takes

468
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: it from the classroom and feels comfortable until he's out

469
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: on the field actually going through the process with a

470
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: defender and knowing exactly what he's doing, how he's supposed

471
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: to do it, where he's supposed to be, how he's

472
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: supposed to get there, all those kind of things. And

473
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that when opposing coaches

474
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: and players watch tape of AJ right now, they say,

475
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: let's get our hands on him. In the past, AJ would,

476
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: I mean, just destroy guys that we're trying to, you know,

477
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 1: check him out the line of scrimmage, bump and run,

478
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: he'd be he'd have a release and be buy him.

479
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: Now they're getting their hands on him, and they're riding

480
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: you know, they're riding them, you know, And I mean

481
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: the touchdown passed a good example could have been called.

482
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: Could have because he more than five yards down the field.

483
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he had his hands on him. You can chuck

484
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: within a five yard area. Was at the three yard line,

485
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: so it was close, wasn't that? How much out of that?

486
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: But you can't bear hug him, you can't put an

487
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: arm around him, which is what happened. And then he

488
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: could call for the push off, but he was so

489
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: frustrated because of how he was bottled up. He pushed

490
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: off to get to try to get separation because he

491
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: knew they were going to him. They said, Aj, this

492
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: is the biggest play of the game. You're our best player.

493
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: We're going to you. And he knew it. So he

494
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: knew at the top of his route. Damn, this ain't working.

495
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta do something to give some separation.

496
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: So right now, watching AJ, I'm watching a player with

497
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: a little uncertainty. You know, I'm not saying he doesn't

498
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: know what to do assignment wise. What I'm saying he

499
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: has not had enough repetition where he feels totally comfortable,

500
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: where he's just ripping up the football field. You know,

501
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: he's he's he's it all hang out to me, to me,

502
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: he's got a governor on him. You know, he hasn't

503
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't let he hasn't let it go to the

504
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: to the top of his uh you know, auto bond

505
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: type range. Yet he's got a governor, you know, And

506
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: and hopefully he'll start to feel more and more comfortable

507
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: and take that governor off. On defense, Carl Lawson had

508
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: two sacks last week. He also had a pair of hurries,

509
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: and according to Pro Football Focus, Lawson is currently tied

510
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: for eighteenth among edge defenders through three weeks. He also

511
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: had a good game as a run stopper last week

512
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: in Philly, and he embarrassed nine time Pro Bowl left

513
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: tackle Jason Peters. Here's Carl on last week's performance. I

514
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: think me just being on the field more is just

515
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of helped because it's like, you

516
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: know sometimes when you gotta um sub in and get

517
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: your motor running a little bit, you know, kind of

518
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: but now you know, it's on something a bitter a

519
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: better role this year where I get to play, you know,

520
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: for a second and third down. I'm just getting the

521
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: rhythm and I can you know, impose my will on

522
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: the game a little bit more, you know, So I

523
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: don't not necessarily think that Peters was doing it. Just

524
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: you know, just me being out there more and just

525
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: having some experience I think helped with my play. Is

526
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson more than a situational pass rusher? I think

527
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: he is now. He does have three quarterback sacks, tied

528
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: for fifth in the NFL with Miles Garrett and Joey Bosa.

529
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: Pretty good company. But he can play the run. I

530
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: mean when he gets lined up on tight ends and

531
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: some of the packages that lou An Rumo has. It's

532
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: a it's a mismatch. And the thing about him is

533
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: he plays with low center of gravity anyway, and he

534
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: does that in the running game as well. And he's

535
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: got really good hip snap. He can roll his hips

536
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: and man, when he strikes you and has that low

537
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: pad level, he can be a load. I mean, he's

538
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: got a very very quick first step. He's sudden, he's explosive.

539
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: He can play with power, he can play with strength,

540
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: he can convert power to strength. He's got a bunch

541
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: of trade that that would translate to more than just

542
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: like an edge pass rush guy on third down. I

543
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: think he can do more than that. For you, did

544
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: lou Anna Romo basically let the front four go in

545
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: passing situations last week? It seemed like it. Yeah, it

546
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: seemed like they they thought we got some favorable matchups here.

547
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Peters is going in the Hall of Fame,

548
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: but he's thirty eight years old, it's seventeen season. He's

549
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was kidding during the game, they're two

550
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: statue of liberties, one in Philadelphia and one in New York.

551
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: Because he wasn't He's not moving like he was and

552
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson was the one one arm stab throwing him around.

553
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was just having his way

554
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: with him. But yeah, it's it's uh, they decided they

555
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: could just beat him. Don't have to do anything fancy,

556
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: don't have to overload the blitz action, don't have to

557
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: twist as much. Just one on one pass rush, get

558
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: up the field and get something done. And Carlos Dunlap

559
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: had nine unassisted tackles. That's a that's a very productive

560
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: day out of the defensive end. Like I said a

561
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: couple of times, I thought they let Lane Johnson get

562
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: away with some action on the edge. I thought that

563
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, I know, he's coming off an ankle injury.

564
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: He looked a little diminished, and Peters looked big time

565
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: diminished from where he was in his prime. Did Mike

566
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: Daniels have an impact in his return? He did. You know,

567
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: he's uh, he definitely you know, can invert the line

568
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And he played another one plays with a

569
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: low pad level. He's you know, six to one and

570
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: three hundred plus pounds. I mean that's like trying to

571
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: block a you know, a mini fridge that's got some mobility,

572
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: or a hydrant that can move around and he definitely

573
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: he definitely shores it up for him up front. Hopefully

574
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: the word is that he came out of it well,

575
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I was, you know, Okay, you come off a groin,

576
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: you play twenty some odd snaps the next day after

577
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: the game. Is the tale of the tape? How so

578
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: are you? How stiff are you? And uh, he went

579
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: into the training when I might understand, you know, not

580
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: in that serious scenario. So hopefully he'll be able to

581
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: ramp up his snaps because he's going to help. And

582
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not sure about Gino. Doesn't look

583
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: like Gino's gonna make the dance this week either, unfortunately.

584
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: And you know how bad is this shoulder injury? What's

585
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: going on here? You know it's get your best defensive

586
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: player not playing the first month of the first four

587
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: games of the season. Man, you could use him. It's

588
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: a team struggling to stop the run. He can help that.

589
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: He and Daniel's in there together with DJ Reader and rotation.

590
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm dogging hunt right there. Gino Atkins did practice on

591
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: a limited basis on Wednesday, so if he's not back

592
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: this week, hopefully he'll return soon. Linebacker Logan Wilson missed

593
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice due to the concussion protocol. The highest graded

594
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: pass blocker through three games on the Bengals offensive line

595
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: has been center Trey Hopkins. Pro Football Focus ranks him

596
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: tenth among NFL centers in that category so far this year.

597
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: It's only his second year at the position, and I

598
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: spoke to the twenty eight year old this week. Trey,

599
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: you know how this works, regardless of how many pass

600
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: at tempt your quarterback throws or if there are situations

601
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: where he has to get rid of the ball, if

602
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: he gets sacked, the offensive line gets ripped. How difficult

603
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: is that aspect of the job right now? I think

604
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: we've made it more difficult than it needs to be.

605
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: We just have to settle things down, and we have

606
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: to We have to give each other tommy needs, no

607
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: matter how many times it is in a game, matter

608
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: where we throw it a hundred times, when we throw

609
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: it once, um, when the plays called block it is

610
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: our responsibility. So just let it stay that simple, I guess,

611
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: and and and we just got to do a better

612
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: job to share it up and be a lot firmer

613
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: up there. Following last week's game, both Zach Taylor and

614
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan said when they looked back at the tape,

615
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: it was better than they thought. Did you feel the

616
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: same way. It's difficult to find yourself get into that conclusion.

617
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: It's a it's a very it's a difficult thing. It's

618
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: a it's a thing that takes a lot of maturity

619
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: because I mean a tie, it's still not a win.

620
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: So you still have that that you still have that

621
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: same bitter taste in your mouth, and a lot of

622
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: times it's easier to just to go go over the

623
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: things that went wrong. Those things seem to stand out

624
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot more in your head when when you don't

625
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: win a game, just like when you win a game,

626
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: things that went right, since he seemed to stand down

627
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: a lot more than they should, but they're both exactly correct.

628
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: When we sat down with the coach and actually watched

629
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: the film and slowed down and watched play by play

630
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: and watch assignments and steps and techniques, yes, there there

631
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: has been an improvement um and throughout these three games

632
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: so far, still not enough obviously to get the win,

633
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: which is the ultimate goals. So he has to keep

634
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: pushing towards that. Visiting with Trey Hopkins on the play

635
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: last week where Joe Burrow had the win knocked out

636
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: of him. Did that take the wind out of you

637
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: watching it? Yeah? Yeah, it it definitely. It's not a

638
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: not a good feeling, not a not a good play,

639
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: not something that you ever want to have happened, for sure,

640
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: for sure it was. It was definitely disheartened. I want

641
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: to go back to it. Joe Burrow quote from the

642
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: preseason about his relationship with the offensive line. He said,

643
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: those guys have to be my best friends. I have

644
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: to make them happy so they'll fight for me. And

645
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: then he went on to say they are going to

646
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: have some nice Christmas presents this year. Does Joe make

647
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: you guys feel appreciated? Yeah he does. Yeah, he does.

648
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: And one thing Joe does he makes it a point,

649
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: which is something that's kind of new. He always speaks

650
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: to the aligne first thing he doesn't he comes into

651
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: the huddle Eastern series, he speaks to the olne and

652
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: practicing in the games, and he's been a great presence.

653
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Um he hasn't been a down. Bo's been an encouraging

654
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: one and just letting us know, hey, I'm on board

655
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: you guys and we got to get this thing right,

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: and then I believe and he believes in us to

657
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: get it right. So now it's just up to us

658
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: to protect the guy and to do a better job

659
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: at that all of us. Let's turn to the running game.

660
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: It was excellent in the second half of the season

661
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: last year. Can you put a finger on why you

662
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: haven't been able to pick up where you left off?

663
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Not exactly a finger. It's one of those things where

664
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: you look at you look at the film and it's

665
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: it takes all eleven on offense and even when you

666
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: got ten doing it right, you got nine. Those pieces

667
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: are critical, and that's one thing that's that's where we're at.

668
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing with our run game. It's just

669
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: small pieces or what you think are small pieces, actually

670
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: play a huge role when it comes to live bullets.

671
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: So it's just making sure all eleven guys were all

672
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: we're all on the same page, and we're all executing

673
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: to the best of our abilities on each place. You

674
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: never know when the big run could be. You never

675
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: know when you're one block. Even if you don't get

676
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: it right, there one extra that that little bit of

677
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: strange just gets to get the defender of off balance

678
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: just a little bit more to get Joe just firsting

679
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: through that hole, you know what I'm saying. So it

680
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: just comes to all of us executing on every play,

681
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: not each of us taking taking our turns and missing

682
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: an assignment or missing a step or being behind or

683
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: something like that. It hasn't been what you would have

684
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: wanted so far, but it's been far superior to the

685
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: first half of last year. Does the turnaround you had

686
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: last year give you confidence that you will turn it

687
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: around him again this year? Sure? I mean I have

688
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: confidence because the guys that are in this locker room

689
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent now. We don't want it to take

690
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: as long as last year. Obviously, we have a game

691
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday that we have to be confident

692
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: that we can win. We are confident that we can win,

693
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: and we deserve too, and we're gonna work and prepare

694
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: for it. Um So the turnaround, we're not giving ourselves

695
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: that much time, We're not giving ourselves that much that

696
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: much leadway we need. We need this right now because

697
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the guys in this locker room deserve it. We work

698
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: too hard, they put in a lot of time. We've

699
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: got to turn this thing around. Now, you've played with

700
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: three right guards in three games, partly due to injury,

701
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: partly due to performance. How difficult is that. It's not

702
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: the best situation, it's not optimal. It's not what you

703
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: would go into the season and say, yeah, we're just

704
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna rotate each one. But it's it's part. It's something

705
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: that just happens, and like anything else, you gotta take

706
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: it in stride and you gotta roll with the punches

707
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: and the guy that gets called up, that guy just

708
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: does the best disability. Everybody around him, rally around him,

709
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: and we get this thing going. It's not something that

710
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: you could really you can labor on too long or

711
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: woe is me about? It's just it is what it is.

712
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's play last thing for Trey Hopkins. You've got a

713
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: three point loss, you've got a five point loss, you

714
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: have a tie. Are you encouraged by how close these

715
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: games have been or angry that you have not been

716
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: able to seal the deal? Angry? We were close all

717
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: last year in a two win season. We were close

718
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: in pretty much all of those games. All said, there

719
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a game that I felt like we just could

720
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: not have one. So It's not enough to be close.

721
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: It's not enough to have a competitive game or to

722
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: not gonna get blown out. These are games that we

723
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: can when we should win, and we have to figure

724
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: out a way to win. Hope you get it done

725
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: this Sunday. Thanks for the time, appreciate it trade so much.

726
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Now time to turn our attention to this week's opponent,

727
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: but one and two Jacksonville Jaguars. It looked like they

728
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: were in full tanking for Trevor Mode when they traded

729
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: away defensive stars Jalen Ramsey, Klias Campbell, and Yunique and

730
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: Gockway and released running back Leonard Fournette. But lo and behold.

731
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: The Jags opened the season by upsetting the Colts and

732
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: had the Titans on the ropes in Week two before

733
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: losing on a field goal in the final two minutes.

734
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: But then Jacksonville laid a Terra dactyl sized egg last week,

735
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: losing by eighteen to the Dolphins at home. Gene Frenette,

736
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: a columnist to the Florida Times Union, joined Lapping Me

737
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: on the Bengals Game Plan show this week, and I

738
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: asked Jean if the Jaguars had exceeded his expectations so

739
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: far this year a little bit. Certainly the last game

740
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of a pause, right, I mean,

741
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: it looked like a semblance of Jaguars teams we've seen

742
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: in the past, and more to the point, it looked

743
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: like a team that was very, very young and you know,

744
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: maybe did not handle having a little bit of praise

745
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: thrown their way the first two weeks, and for whatever reason,

746
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, put up a clunker. And now, now granted

747
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: they had some injury issues. I mean, their starting center

748
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: was out for the game, their best receiver DJ Shark

749
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: and best deep threat did not play, So that's you know,

750
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: that's a little bit, a little bit of it, but

751
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, you certainly can't blame all of it on that,

752
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: right at Plus, they lost their h you know, probably

753
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: what may be the one of the top two place

754
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: kickers in the league, and Josh Lambo, who's still on

755
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: IR won't and won't be there this week either. That, oh,

756
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, all those things factored in a little bit.

757
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: But you know, none of that excuses the fact that

758
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense for the third week in a row,

759
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: looked absolutely hideous in the first quarter and put and

760
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: put the and put their team in a fourteen point

761
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: hole yet again. Yeah, that's the thing that is amazing

762
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: to me. Thirty five points allowed in the first quarter,

763
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven in the second quarter, sixty three points allowed

764
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: in the first half, and three football games. That that

765
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: makes it. That makes it some tough sledding for you.

766
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: When you talk about how young thirty youngest team in

767
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: the league, twenty five years, twenty and seventy four days

768
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: average age of the football team, thirty six players with

769
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: four years or less varience? Were all the changes made

770
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: with the name players strictly economics or a segment earlier

771
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: here in the show, we were talking about culture. Were

772
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: their culture issues that some of these veteran players were

773
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: causing problems and concerns? Was of a combination of everything.

774
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: Why did they decide to just strip it and get

775
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: so young? Well, the accurate answer is it was a

776
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: little bit of both. Some of it was salary cap related,

777
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: some of it was culture related. And by the way,

778
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: the Jaguars the youngest team in the NFL, and I

779
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: think the only reason it might have gone the third

780
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: youngest is because they had to sign a veteran that

781
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: bumped up their average. Because they were they were more

782
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: like about twenty five years and one month. Okay there

783
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: for a while, but you know, I mean this, yeah,

784
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: this is going on going off of release from the

785
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: league for this game. Yeah, yeah, point the point, the

786
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: point is obvious. But no, it was it was both

787
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: culture and economics related. They you know, they they traded

788
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: away Calais Campbell. That was certainly an economics issue. That

789
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: certainly wasn't a production culture issue because he's the best

790
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: leader you had in that locker room. So uh, Jawen Ramsey,

791
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: that was pretty well documented what happened there, and they

792
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: ended up getting two first round draft picks for it

793
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: for him, so A. J. Bouier was probably a little

794
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: bit more economics. And then you've you know, there's an

795
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: unique and goaqway. I mean, you saw with that situation

796
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: evolved into he didn't want to play for the team anymore,

797
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: and h you know, but he wasn't a bad guy

798
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: in the locker room, but he just got to the

799
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: point where he was shut up because he didn't think

800
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: he was getting that he didn't think he was valued

801
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: as much as he valued himself. And consequently, uh, you

802
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: know we've seen that you know, the pass rushers weren't

803
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: getting the high market and deals they were getting two

804
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: years ago, and he just, you know, he just got

805
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: caught in a little bit of a timing thing and

806
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: so so. But the point is when you let go

807
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: that many veteran talented guys and you replace them with younger,

808
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: cheaper players, you know every once in wow, that's going

809
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: to come back and bite you. And I think that

810
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: was what we saw the other night. You know, you

811
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: saw a young team on the big stage, had it

812
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: all to him, to itself and just did not handle

813
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: it well. Right. Jeane for Nett from the Florida Times

814
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Union is our guest Jean for nine years here, Andy

815
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: Dalton was the quarterback and a lot of people felt like, well,

816
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: clearly he's good enough to get you to the playoffs,

817
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: but is he good enough to take you to a

818
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl or win a Super Bowl? What about Gardner? Minshew?

819
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: He's obviously proven he's good enough to you know, keep

820
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: them in games. He has some terrific performances like he

821
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: did in Week one, But can an NFL team win

822
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: big with Gardner? Minshew? Well, the Jaguars are the Jaguars.

823
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he'll get. I don't

824
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: know if he'll get that chance to find that out

825
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. You know, as you know, the NFL

826
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: is a week to week league. You know, first two

827
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: weeks go by and they're saying, hey, we got something

828
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: really it looks like we might have something really special

829
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: in Gardner Minshew. Then a game like Miami happened, and

830
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're tapping the breaks a

831
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: little bit, and then you realize that you know, things

832
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: are going to change from week to week. And in

833
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, Gardner Minshew is gonna be a quarterback in

834
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: this league for a long time. He's gonna he's gonna

835
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: be in this league in some capacity for the next

836
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: eight to ten years in my opinion. Now what is

837
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: going to be his role over the course of that time,

838
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: that I think is still to be determined. I think

839
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars think they got something pretty good in him.

840
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: But I also think that Gardner Minshew is the type

841
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: of quarterback you've got to surround him with some really,

842
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: really good and special talent if you're going to go

843
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: a long ways with him. That's just my feeling on it.

844
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: I you know, and you know what that describes a

845
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of NFL starting quarterbacks, you know, if they don't

846
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: have there's only like three or four guys in the

847
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: entire league that can literally put a team on their

848
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: shoulders and take them somewhere. Right. So, well, Aaron Rodgers,

849
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: certainly Tom Brady and at a younger Tom Brady, a

850
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: younger Drew Brees. But there's just not that There's just

851
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: not that many of those guys. You know. I'm Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,

852
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'd like to see how Patrick

853
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes would do if he had the job, if he

854
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: had the Jaguars skill players. I mean, I'm not taking

855
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: anything away from Patrick Mahomes, but he came into a

856
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: perfect ready made situation in terms of the running back,

857
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the receivers, in terms of the tight end. Um,

858
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: he's a special quarterback there. Yeah, he's a generational talent,

859
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Also he also benefited from you know,

860
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: having Andy Reid and just a great situation. So uh,

861
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean right now, I think Russell. I

862
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: think Russell Wilson's the best quarter if you if you

863
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: asked me to pick the best quarterback in the NFL,

864
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: I'd be Russell Wilson, he'd be my first pick. But

865
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: getting back to Minshew, I you know, it's it's still

866
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: it's a work in progress, that's what it is. You know,

867
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: if he goes up this week and has a great

868
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: game against the Bengals and the Jaguars win, you know,

869
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: ten or fourteen, four points, well, does that validate him

870
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: as the long term answer at the court at the

871
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: quarterback position. No. I mean you're going up against a

872
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: rookie and Joe Burrow who's taking fourteen sacks who sell

873
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: in the first three games. I don't know how many

874
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: of those are covered sacks, how many of those are

875
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: have either you know, got sacked immediately ort or held

876
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: the ball too long. It's probably a little bit of both. Right,

877
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: So you know, this week is certainly not going to

878
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: be a you know, affirmation or otherwise on Gardner Minshew.

879
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: He's just got to keep trying to progress as a

880
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: quarterback and hope that he's good enough to win the job.

881
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Because quite frankly, if if you know, if they only

882
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: win three or four games this year and they get

883
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: and they're able to get into the Trevor Lawrence sweep sing,

884
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: I think the Jaggers will be good enough. It will

885
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: be just good enough to stay out of the Trevor

886
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence Derby. Let's put it that way, right right. I

887
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: think the fact that you're talking about the uncertainty of

888
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the player, Minshew, it's going to be about running the football.

889
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: And you go a free agent college free agent running

890
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: back Robinson, who is very impressive to watch on tape.

891
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Maurice Jones Drew, but he's a

892
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: poor man I don't know how poor man, but he's

893
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: a poor man version kind of in my guys a

894
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: little bit watching him. Three touchdowns rushing tied for seventh

895
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL, averaging four to nine to carry two

896
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: in ten yards, eleventh in the NFL. And last year

897
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Jaguars rushed for two hundred and sixteen yards against the

898
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Bengals and when so, I would think Jacksonville's game plan.

899
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what Jake Gruden's thinking, but I would

900
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: think he'd come in here and run the football. The

901
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: Bengs are dead last in the NFL, not only this year,

902
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: but over the last two years twenty nineteen and twenty

903
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: twenty against the run, giving up over one hundred and

904
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: fifty yards a game on the ground over the last

905
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: year plus, so I would think that would be their big,

906
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: big deal. Well, you certainly have to you certainly have

907
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: to think that that has to be part of it.

908
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I know it's a passing league, right,

909
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's what that's what the NFL

910
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: evolved into for the last ten seen years. But you

911
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: look at the teams that are running the ball, well,

912
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: those are the teams that have got the better records

913
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, and the teams that pass

914
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: the ball a lot, including your Bengals, are not doing

915
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: so well. You have to be able to You have

916
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: to be able to have you got to have a

917
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: running game. I mean, you just do. I mean the

918
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs are maybe a little bit of an

919
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: outlier there, but for the most part, you've got to

920
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball when you want to

921
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: run it. And you know the Jaguars, you know, they've

922
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: fallen behind early, and it'll be interesting to see what

923
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: happens if they win the coin toss again, whether they'll

924
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: defer or take the ball, because you know, Doug Maron

925
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: has said he's going to maybe revisit the strategy of

926
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: always deferring when he wins the coin toss, because you know,

927
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: the Jaguars I've gotten off these terrible starts because of

928
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: what the defense is, you know, basically sleepwalking in the

929
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: first quarter for whatever reason, or maybe they're just not

930
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: good enough. It's possible that that that's the possibility as well.

931
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: But you know, they're certainly not playing as bad in

932
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: the fourth and third and second orders as they have

933
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: been in the first. But yeah, I mean, James Robinson

934
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: has just been He's been the most pleasant surprise of all.

935
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's it's not even it's not even close.

936
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, when you ask Jaguars, you know who, who's

937
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: who's been the biggest surprise? They weren't. Now, James Robinson

938
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: was not a surprise to the coaching staff because they

939
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: saw in camp, you know how well you know, particularly

940
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: his vision. He just has seems to have a knack

941
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: for making the first guy miss and for picking the

942
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: right hole and being decisive and doing it. And you

943
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: know that's the reason why his yards for terry average

944
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: right now is as good as it is. Small sample size,

945
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: I get it, three games, but yeah, I mean I would.

946
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: I would expect James Robinson has been averaging seventeen touches

947
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: a game between receiving and rushing, and I would expect

948
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: that that that trend would continue and maybe even get

949
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But you know, the Jaguar has

950
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of weapons. But if they don't have

951
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: DJ Chark this weekend, and I think that's going to

952
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: be a game time decision, and I think Lender the

953
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: center will also be a game time decision. Chart does

954
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: change things a little bit. It may it's going to

955
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: be a lot easier for defensive coordinators to defend the

956
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: Jaguars if Chart's not in the lineup. Didn't they Jack

957
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: go get a second opinion? What happened with that second opinion?

958
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I've heard somewhere he's getting a second opinion on his chest. Yeah,

959
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened with the second opinion, But

960
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you know he's back in practice today on a limited basis,

961
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: and it just feels like to me that Jaggars are

962
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: going to take this up all the way until Sunday,

963
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: and he'll be a game time decision. You know you

964
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: got you when you've got chess issues and back, I

965
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: mean that that's you know, that's quite a bit to

966
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: deal with, and maybe they sit him out for one

967
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: more week just to give him time to for cool breakers,

968
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: you know. You know, if this was mid December, they

969
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: probably have him out there. But you know, it's only

970
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: week four and the last thing you want to do

971
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: is aggravate that injury and then you'll have him out,

972
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, and then you'll have him on ir you know.

973
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: So I think that the Jaguars are going to play

974
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: that with a lot of caution going into this Sunday.

975
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: My last question for Jean for Net from the Florida

976
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Times Union. How does Tyler Eifford look? Uh, well, you know,

977
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's uh, he's a pretty pretty good looking guy.

978
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Is he practicing much? But I mean from a football

979
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: standpoint for now, I mean, to be perfectly honest with him,

980
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: he looks like he's just a guy, you know, just

981
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: to you know, okay, tight end, good, you know, decent blocker,

982
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, I haven't seen anything for

983
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: right now that makes me go, boy, Jaguards were smart

984
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: to go get him now. I'm sure, you know, I

985
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: bet Tyler might be a little bit more productive this

986
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: week facing his old employer. In fact, he actually I

987
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: was I was somewhat impressed that he actually had a sarcastic,

988
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: dead panning remark when asked about whether he had a conversation,

989
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, with with with Minshew about you know, being

990
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: able to have more production this week, and yeah he said, yeah,

991
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: I said, we talked about twenty targets. Of course, then

992
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: he reverted back to, uh, you know, Vanilla Bland. Nice

993
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: guy answer your question, Tyler effort, but nothing, you know

994
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: now he hasn't made it. Yeah, he hasn't made me go,

995
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: oh wow. He looks like the guy. He looks like

996
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: that tight end from you know, five years ago or whatever. Yeah,

997
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen version. Unfortunately he took too many, too

998
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: many shots, no doubt, no doubt. Final question. Final question

999
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: here too, Gene, And thanks for all the time you

1000
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: carve for us. Um the guy who basically said, let's

1001
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: get Tyler right down here. He knows my system. Jay Gruden,

1002
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: what kind of an impact has he had with the organization? Offensively,

1003
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: you can't begin to imagine how many rose pedals and

1004
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: bouquets were thrown at Jay Steep after the first two

1005
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: games in the season. Oh gosh. He was like, oh,

1006
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: finally we got this play caller enough. And this is

1007
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: one of my pet peeves about NFL fans and even

1008
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: about the media to some degree that if something works

1009
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: really well, it's a great play call, and if something

1010
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: just is terrible, it looks like, you know, the first

1011
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: guy they want to blame is a play caller, you know,

1012
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: having no idea that you know, one guy could have

1013
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: missed an assignment or whatever. You don't know. There's a

1014
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: zillion factors that go into whether somebody's a good play

1015
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: caller or struggles to be a play caller. Do I

1016
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: think Jake Bruden was a good higher? Yes, I do.

1017
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean that they had to. They had to get

1018
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: something different because it's just it just didn't work with

1019
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: John d. Philippo last year and certainly with Nick Foles done.

1020
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: You know they was not going to work. But no,

1021
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I think Jay is you know, for the most part,

1022
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: come in and done a nice job and is utilizing

1023
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: the weapons that they have. But you know, this, this

1024
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: NFL is plays. It's not I mean, it's players. It's

1025
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: not plays. As much as fans want to bet yak

1026
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: about play calls, and you know, a third and seven,

1027
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: where the quarterback throws a three yard out not realizing

1028
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: that Hey went some three progressions that he had nobody,

1029
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: so he took his check down, hoping his guy could

1030
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: make a play. Right. I mean it just you know,

1031
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: you see this all this time, his criticism about sometimes

1032
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: throwing behind the six or what have you. And there's

1033
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: so much going on on an NFL play, you got

1034
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: to depend on your quarterback to make the right decisions,

1035
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: go through his progressions, what have you. But I would,

1036
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: I would say that Jay Gruden was it was a

1037
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: logical hire for Doug Marone to make, and I do

1038
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: think it's I do think it's it will prove to

1039
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: be a good hire. Whether it's good enough to get

1040
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: Jay a head coaching job again next year, you know that.

1041
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: Only time will tell that, but I think it's I

1042
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: think on paper, it's a very good hire. You'll have

1043
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: much more on the game this Friday and the Bengals

1044
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1045
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1046
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1047
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1048
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