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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation. Yes, I'm the host Rashan

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Speaker 1: McDonald East Money Making Conversations talk shows about entrepreneurship and entertainment.

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Speaker 1: importantly and most importantly, their secrets to success. But next

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Speaker 1: guest is uh dif friend um been knowing him? Wow.

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Speaker 1: When I first started managers the way back in the

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Speaker 1: but more importantly, he's one of the most widely respected,

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Speaker 1: award winning journalists in the industry today. Over the course

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Speaker 1: including B E, T, NBC in MS, NBC and CBS.

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Speaker 1: We hosted and contributed to programs including Conversations with Ed Gordon,

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Speaker 1: of Our World with Black Enterprise and NPR News. Is

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Speaker 1: a new book, Conversations in Black, where he brings some

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Speaker 1: released on Hatbayed by Hatchet Books on January fourteen of

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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation my man Ed Gordon. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, this book I kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: I've read the book, allows for you to tell a

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Speaker 1: So it's written as if we're all sitting together, and

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Speaker 1: And while you're walking up and down the aisles, healthy

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Speaker 1: living right, how to get healthy food. And you guys

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Speaker 1: are just talking. You might not want to go shopping

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Speaker 1: with me. No ice cream, get some cakes, and you

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Speaker 1: can teach your boy how to bake. She's gonna get

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Speaker 1: it back to the right. I'm gonna be trying to

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Speaker 1: frank some joke. Keep my bake but that's your skill set.

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Speaker 1: And then that's why you guys work as a team

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that I'm here because somebody was

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Speaker 1: courageous enough to say, I need you to be a

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Speaker 1: part of this. Okay, now you got my mindset. I'm

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Speaker 1: overly trying to block time. Now I gotta go talk

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Speaker 1: do because because you know, I'm mad at because she

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Speaker 1: ain't got a dog, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: so and and and so. Now I'm trying to bring

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Speaker 1: on a human being into our world, and so for

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Speaker 1: a committed process and that so I got to look

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Speaker 1: because no matter what we are, what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: it's still a human being. And and in different age

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Speaker 1: groups who don't know the experiences they've had before you

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Speaker 1: came along. Like you said, you have a young child

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Speaker 1: eight you might want to mentor somebody who's twelve, somebody

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Speaker 1: who's fifty. Each one of them they got some drama

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Speaker 1: coming with that, you know, I'm saying. So you have

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Speaker 1: to know who you're talking to because that kid that

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Speaker 1: you may be starting to mentor maybe already have went

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Speaker 1: down the road or made the curve that you if

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Speaker 1: you're not spending the time to understand where they're at mentally,

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Speaker 1: you you just shocked. You wake up, you see him

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Speaker 1: on the news and because you did, because you were

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Speaker 1: just you know, playing the game. Yeah. Yeah, we make

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Speaker 1: sure you know before you get in that you know

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Speaker 1: all the background and in choice is a big part

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Speaker 1: with an eight year old, twelve year old or young

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Speaker 1: man who's into certain things, you know, So all that

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Speaker 1: plays into to our decision making process. But also you

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Speaker 1: get to know what's going on before we match you,

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Speaker 1: and the family gets to know about you before we

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Speaker 1: match you. So it's a very thoughtful process where we

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Speaker 1: work together on that. Right. So with that being said,

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking to YouTube. What's what's this? The staff

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Speaker 1: look like a big brothers. We have a very amazing team,

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Speaker 1: fifty staff, most of our staff on our program team.

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Speaker 1: We have a very diverse staff. We gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: folks who have MSW degrees and you folks like me

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Speaker 1: who were in jail, you know. So it's it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a very great team to work with. I'm very

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Speaker 1: honored every day to go work with them. And our

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Speaker 1: program team is really providing the support to our bigs

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Speaker 1: and our kids in the field and the families that

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Speaker 1: are doing the work. So it's a great staff. But

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Speaker 1: we have fifty staff. We're in midtown. Come check us

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Speaker 1: out any time, right right at the corner seventeenth th Peachtree.

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Speaker 1: We love to have you cool so real men mentor Yes.

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Speaker 1: The panel is going to be January at the gathering spot.

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Speaker 1: How long was it last year? About an hour? So

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Speaker 1: we have Yeah, so we have when you first come in,

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Speaker 1: we we we want to talk for now by myself,

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Speaker 1: it can go longer. You've got a long wind bill

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Speaker 1: over here. But with the things I'm dragging all these

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Speaker 1: people down here. You know, a man ain't we want

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Speaker 1: to get him in. But I know we want to

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Speaker 1: have like a whole like mixer time to for you

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Speaker 1: to get in meet other local men in Atlanta. We're

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Speaker 1: going to have guys who were big are ready talk

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Speaker 1: to them because you know, this is our job get

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Speaker 1: where sales people. But we're gonna have people who are

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Speaker 1: there who are actually out there putting in the work

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Speaker 1: that can answer all the real life questions on my inn.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get the banners from you. I

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Speaker 1: that make sure that it's approved on both sides. You

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Speaker 1: know their agenda and get all that straight. Uh. Samantha Taylor,

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Speaker 1: who's the executive producer of Money Making Conversations, is handling

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Speaker 1: the production of the live inventive we're gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: at the gatherings by January. Big Brothers, Big sisters. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Metro Atlanta. What'll I say? They called with Julia, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on the show again and I got working. Hi.

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Speaker 1: This is Rushan McDonald to host the Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: next guest is on the phone. First time we've talked

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Speaker 1: no of his work. Is a former NFL wide receiver

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Speaker 1: turned filmmaker who played for the Jacksonville Jagulaws, Cecinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and the Baltimore Ravens. He retired to two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven and moved to l a A to

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Speaker 1: pursue a career in entertainment. Since then, he has going

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Speaker 1: on to direct music videos, short films, feature films, television

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Speaker 1: and wealth series. He's an NFL alum director, Monkey Ball,

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Speaker 1: Monkey Paul Production Films and television executive and author of

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Speaker 1: When I Just Read It Last Night called Hair Love.

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Speaker 1: He currently is a television executive, like I stated early

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Speaker 1: with Market Paul Productions. Please welcome to moneymaking conversations. My man,

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Speaker 1: Matthew a cherry, Hey, how you doing well. You've got

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Speaker 1: a lot going on, you know, for to be a

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Speaker 1: former football player, a couple of things. You know. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know a sport that I you know,

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Speaker 1: a sport that I would never play because physically, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I looked at it this weekend. I'm going,

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Speaker 1: how do y'all do it? So do you look back? Matthew,

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Speaker 1: he go, how did I do it? And why did

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Speaker 1: I do it? Oh? No, not at all, um. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just uh, some people, you know, like

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Speaker 1: when you when you're growing up, you live in certain environments,

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Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, and you know it's kind of what all

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Speaker 1: your friends are doing, and you know, you you want

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Speaker 1: to kind of stay off the streets and make sure

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Speaker 1: that you have something else going on. And you know,

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Speaker 1: football growing up in Chicago was uh, what's kind of

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Speaker 1: that for me? So no, not at all. Chicago. I

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Speaker 1: was at Chicago. I lived in Chicago. I was I

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Speaker 1: was producing, uh that could produce a Steve Harvest talk

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Speaker 1: show from and my man, I got closed with your clothes,

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Speaker 1: but I had to buy in Chicago, that I wear

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Speaker 1: nowhere else hilarious. Ye gets pretty pretty frosty out there.

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Speaker 1: So do you miss the code? That's all I'm ask

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Speaker 1: Do you missed the cold Chicago? My friend? No, No,

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Speaker 1: I live in l A now, so you know don't.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about you getting started in this business, because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you know everybody's stereo types of individuals.

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Speaker 1: You know, your your football player. When you start trying

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Speaker 1: to get out of that window, people can look at

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Speaker 1: your life. M why how uh is that is that

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Speaker 1: even possible? Even if I like that to the fact

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Speaker 1: that you know, I come from the inner city, uh, Matthew,

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Speaker 1: and I my degree is in mathematics. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be a stand up comic and people look at me like, okay,

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Speaker 1: stand up comic. You're not Richard pryor you're not rich Box.

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Speaker 1: So people always want to block. You're always tell people

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Speaker 1: have to be careful to people who who you might

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Speaker 1: consider your family or your loved ones or your best

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Speaker 1: friends because they can be the first people to throw

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Speaker 1: out the negative statements and throw out the blocks. So

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Speaker 1: so when you when you when did you? When did

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Speaker 1: you start developing these skills that I that I introduced

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Speaker 1: you as directed and because all that comes into play,

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Speaker 1: when do you start developing these skills? Um? You know,

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Speaker 1: it was something I was always interested in, man. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, probably as early as high school. UM, I

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Speaker 1: remember wanting to, uh, you know, kind of join like

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Speaker 1: the radio and the TV club that they had and

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Speaker 1: uh at my school. And you know, I major in

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Speaker 1: the radio TV broadcast in college. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: knew that. I knew. I always knew eventually whenever I

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Speaker 1: got done playing sports, that you know, this would be

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Speaker 1: my kind of long term career and it was just

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Speaker 1: kind of a matter of what the approach might be.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I always always knew. Now that would I

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Speaker 1: say all this so you you you're no longer playing

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Speaker 1: professional football? You say you moved to Los Angeles? Now

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Speaker 1: did you knew would established relationship or you moved out

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Speaker 1: there just to you know, you say, man, this is

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Speaker 1: where I was supposed to be. I gotta go and

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Speaker 1: get my feet wet and start making it happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know when when I was playing ball. UM actually

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Speaker 1: came out to l A for the first time in

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Speaker 1: like oh five when I was with the Bengals, and

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Speaker 1: this radio personality that I worked with in Cleveland at

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Speaker 1: the radio station out there. Basically I asked if I

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Speaker 1: want to come out for the BT wards and just

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Speaker 1: kind of hang out, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this would be a good opportunity to kind of get

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Speaker 1: eyes on, you know, the city and kind of see

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Speaker 1: what it's like. And I just love that it was

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Speaker 1: just all about production. You know, like the coffee jobs

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Speaker 1: you got none but writers and they're writing scripts. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, even the printing copy stores, you know, they

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Speaker 1: offering discounts on head shots and script printing. And it

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Speaker 1: just felt right. And I was lucky enough to meet

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Speaker 1: a person who was a part of this program called

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Speaker 1: street Lights, and street Lights is as nonprofit organization that

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Speaker 1: kind of helps men and women of color get jobs

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Speaker 1: as production assistance in the industry, like in mostly the

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Speaker 1: commercial world. And um, basically, you know, I met her,

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Speaker 1: we buy asked her she would kind of put me

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Speaker 1: down as a reference that she did, and um, I

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Speaker 1: applied to this program and I got in. And so

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Speaker 1: when I moved down Hey, this was kind of like

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Speaker 1: And I kind of came out here knowing that I

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Speaker 1: And you know, as you know, production assistants like you

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Speaker 1: do all the eye jobs like the moving to director's chairs,

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Speaker 1: getting the talent out the trusting room, righting in the

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Speaker 1: stage like stuff like that. But you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: great opportunity to actually physically get all set and kind

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Speaker 1: of see what everybody does and trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what it is that you may want to do for

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Speaker 1: a living. You know, it's really important that you said

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Speaker 1: that because you know a lot of people they have standards.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna do that, you know, but

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Speaker 1: but I I tell people when you as a as

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Speaker 1: a production assistant on the set that I was called

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Speaker 1: p AS and and so you get you get to

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Speaker 1: really get to really get into some areas where you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't normally get if you were just a producer because

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Speaker 1: a king, you know. Plus you can like get into

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Speaker 1: writer's rooms, you can ask productions, you can you can

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Speaker 1: be you can sit down next to a direct actor.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have your game plan. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can't be annoying. You have to be a person

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Speaker 1: that doesn't look too comfortable because a lot a lot

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Speaker 1: of people they want to just sit down, you know.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you almost got to be just be

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Speaker 1: in the back of the room and blend in. And

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand that. You always

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Speaker 1: tell people in my life, I don't always and you

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Speaker 1: might be the same way with you, Matthew. It's not

651
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Speaker 1: about the financial opportunity. It's about the opportunity now, it's

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Speaker 1: what you do with that opportunity that could lead to

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Speaker 1: a financial opportunity. And and a lot of people understand

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Speaker 1: that just getting in the door that he said that

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Speaker 1: really clear. And that's why I try to make sure

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Speaker 1: people who come on my show let them note the

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Speaker 1: end results. You know, Black Plansman is the end result, okay.

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Speaker 1: And and plus that's not his end d I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: even say that. That's one of his accomplishments were all

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Speaker 1: are aware of. But before that he would just be

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Speaker 1: a you know, I mean. And that's the thing though,

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, sometimes when you come out there

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Speaker 1: and you you kind of think you already know what

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Speaker 1: you're doing, sometimes that can hinder you because, like you

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Speaker 1: you may be closed off to kind of all these

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Speaker 1: other opportunities, you know, and being a p A is

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Speaker 1: just such a great way to just like literally spend

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Speaker 1: a little time with every department kind of Okay, do

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Speaker 1: I want to get in hair and makeup? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to be a grip or electrician? You know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Like you really can kind of find your

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Speaker 1: your your you know, whatever it is that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to get into long term. You know, absolutely, so Matt,

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Speaker 1: just talk about hair love. Okay. Um, yeah, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I know, I have a daughter, all right, my wife.

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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, I've done my attempts over the years.

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Speaker 1: My daughter said, don't mess with my hair no more. Dad,

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Speaker 1: please stop. Okay, that's not what you do. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: love you, but leave my hair along. What was the

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Speaker 1: motivation behind hair love? Well, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, back and sit out in seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I am, you know, very very active on social media,

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Speaker 1: and I just really noticed this trend. I kept coming across, uh,

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Speaker 1: all these videos of specifically African American fathers doing their

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Speaker 1: daughter's hair, and you know, I always like trying to

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Speaker 1: share a lot of family friendly content on my social

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Speaker 1: media and it was just I was just noticing this

688
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Speaker 1: trend to where every time I shared like a video

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Speaker 1: of a mom interacting with their kids. You know, they

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Speaker 1: would do well because a lot of times the videos

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Speaker 1: were cute, but it was every time it was a

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Speaker 1: black dad and a black daughter for a black dad

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Speaker 1: and their kids, period, they always just like overperformed. And

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Speaker 1: I just really just noticed, you know, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: it was kind of this double edged sword because like,

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Speaker 1: obviously the videos are very cute and touching, but I

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Speaker 1: kind of learned that it was also because people weren't

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Speaker 1: used to seeing black men depicted in this light, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you know, we get all

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Speaker 1: these negative stereotypes in the media, like for not around

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Speaker 1: for our kids and you know, et cetera. And so

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Speaker 1: them seeing like these dads that were taking the time

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Speaker 1: to do their daughter's hair, it kind of felt like

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Speaker 1: an anomaly. And for me, like I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of I'm not a father yet, but I've lot of

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Speaker 1: friends that are young fathers and there's not anomaly to them.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like rent is expensive everywhere often now now

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Speaker 1: how times you know both parents have to work, and

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Speaker 1: so mom gotta leave earlier, gotta go out of town

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Speaker 1: or something. You know, dad gotta step up. What do

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Speaker 1: you want to do? What is your goal? You know

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Speaker 1: we started we was a former NFL football player, was

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Speaker 1: a former p A. Now you've got this hot animated

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Speaker 1: project out there. You've executive produced The Black Plansman. What

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Speaker 1: do you want to do? My friend? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of doing it now. You know. It's just

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Speaker 1: for me and just continuing to create projects that kind

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Speaker 1: of elevates and humanize black people, you know, um be

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Speaker 1: that in any medium, be the animated, live action, TV

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Speaker 1: or film. Um, you know I'm directing television now too.

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Speaker 1: So I just did an episode of blackish'll be coming

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Speaker 1: out around Valentine's Day. This big book, a big movie

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been announced yet, but I'm really excited about.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, trying to figure out a live

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Speaker 1: acting feature as well. So you know, just can seam

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Speaker 1: of working trying to reinvent myself. Man, that that's really

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Speaker 1: the goal and the dream now the dream now the

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Speaker 1: last o G that's you. Yeah. Yeah, I was a

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Speaker 1: co producer and director on the show too, So yeah

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Speaker 1: it was Matthew. Matthew, you need to stop being humble.

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Speaker 1: There's a humble interview, Matthew. You there's a humble interview

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you you got it going on,

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Speaker 1: my man? You know comment. The reason I say that

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm Hollywood. I went out to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: I know, you know when they buried all the sitcoms

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Speaker 1: on W B and U p N. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, where as used as a starter started kits

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Speaker 1: and when I see you're in a you're in a

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Speaker 1: a guy your talents are? Is that Hollywood at a

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Speaker 1: good time? You know? Well, we could start telling our stories.

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Speaker 1: When I look on when I look at TV commercials,

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00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: I see I see interracial people on TV dating an

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Speaker 1: insurance together, buying cars together. We're only a couple of

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: years ago when a little black girl mixed or black

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Speaker 1: girls went in the room for cheerio, they wanted to

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Speaker 1: shut down cheerios. You know what I'm saying? That ain't

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Speaker 1: that fall from that? And to be able to see

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Speaker 1: stories that are being told by able Duvernet And if

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Speaker 1: you hear this here, this right here, you're saying, you're

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Speaker 1: comfortably saying I want to tell African American stories because

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you know now there's a demand or need, our requests

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00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: for that type of confidence that has to make you

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00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, man. I mean I think you know, nowadays,

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Speaker 1: like you know you're talking about back in the day

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Speaker 1: with like the c W and the w B and

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Speaker 1: UPN and all that. Like, you know, now there's so

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00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: many more networks from places that are doing original content.

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00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just kind of like a byproduct

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: of that, like the more outlets that need content, you know,

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00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: the more opportunities that you know, black creators and creators

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Speaker 1: of color are going to have to be able to

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Speaker 1: tell their stories and you know, hopefully do them in

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Speaker 1: a in a good way that you know makes their

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Speaker 1: people look good. You know, I just want to continue that.

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Speaker 1: You know, people like gabad Rene and Jordan's and James

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Speaker 1: you know, are all kind of been mentors to me

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Speaker 1: and people who are really uh just admire and want

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Speaker 1: to follow their footsteps. So well, I'm telling something you

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Speaker 1: you are a special talent if I can compliment you

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Speaker 1: in that manner and you accepted. My wife Alwa tells me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I say thank you when people

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Speaker 1: compliment me because of the fact that some of the

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Speaker 1: things I'm just doing what I love to do and

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Speaker 1: you're doing what you love to do. Sometimes you don't

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00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: understand that what you what. You have a unique talent

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00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: and you're accomplishing things that are not normal. Yeah, no, man, no, definitely,

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Speaker 1: you know you got me. Man, it's good. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your Matthew a cherry. We'll be right back with more

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Speaker 1: helping people become better digital citizen. She's on the shoulder

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Humphrey, Hello, Hello, it's so happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me first. For it's definitely

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Speaker 1: been a long time since you've been on the show.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because you've been busy, and

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Speaker 1: I've been so busy. You're you're regular on different shows

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Speaker 1: and things like that. What and it's about It's about

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Speaker 1: your brand, It's about putting the word out and maintaining credibility,

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Speaker 1: what have you. What do you do to maintain credibility

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Speaker 1: with your varce because that's a competitive space, it absolutely is,

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Speaker 1: and I think you have to be consistent with content.

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Speaker 1: You know, there there was that whole idea of content

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Speaker 1: being king that was really popular a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: and that is actually still the case. Content is king.

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Speaker 1: So as you're utilizing these social media platforms, as you're

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Speaker 1: utilizing your website or your blog or whatever, you have

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Speaker 1: to consistently be pushing out content to people around your

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Speaker 1: brand and your area of expertise. Now, that does not

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Speaker 1: necessarily mean that you always have to be creating content,

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Speaker 1: because that can get overwhelming, you know, trying to do

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Speaker 1: videos every day, or or a podcast every week or

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Speaker 1: whatever that looks like. But curating content it's just as

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Speaker 1: effective as creating content. So I do a lot of both. Actually,

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Speaker 1: So most days, most days of the week, Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 1: I will curate content that I find on the Internet

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Speaker 1: and push it out and get people's opinions on it,

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Speaker 1: start conversations around it, drive engagement around technology topics that

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Speaker 1: I think people might be interested in. But then once

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Speaker 1: Now what what I'm assuming it comes out on social media?

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Speaker 1: What platforms? Do you distribute across all platforms? Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and LinkedIn? So I can share it on my Twitter account?

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Speaker 1: Yes you can? Please? Do you say? Every Wednesday? Right

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Speaker 1: So every Wednesday we're gonna start sharing her. M's a

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Speaker 1: tech break, Yeah, on on social media because I'm always

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, like I said, that's that's a

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Speaker 1: part of quality content that you're talking about. Now let's

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Speaker 1: talk about because I got a lot of people on

855
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Speaker 1: the on my show talk about making that transition, and

856
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: then every everyday people who are afraid to make that transition,

857
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Speaker 1: afraid to walk away from that job. Fear just overwhelmed him.

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Speaker 1: Like I tell people, you know, my degrees in mathematics,

859
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Speaker 1: I work for IBM, and then I left IBM too

860
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Speaker 1: become a comedian. I was already a comedian, but when

861
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Speaker 1: you walk away from a full time job, you're becoming

862
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Speaker 1: a comedian for really, that's right. I was just fooling.

863
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Speaker 1: I'm just going on stage at night telling jokes. Just yeah, alright,

864
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Speaker 1: that's all I want was fun that every show. I'm funny.

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Speaker 1: But when I left IBM, I was a real comedian. Okay,

866
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Speaker 1: I to find out how I was gonna get a

867
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Speaker 1: regular check on a regular basis. Now, with that being said,

868
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Speaker 1: you're a former engineer, what what type of engineer were you? Well?

869
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Speaker 1: I was a systems engineer for Locke Martin, but my

870
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Speaker 1: degrees were in electrical engineering and telecommunications and networking engineering. Already,

871
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Speaker 1: is she making me feel my little math degree feels that?

872
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Speaker 1: Trust me, I don't as hard as it wants me

873
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Speaker 1: to get through calculus. I know, a math degree is

874
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Speaker 1: a big deal. You make me feel good, Stefphani. But

875
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Speaker 1: you know, there's the fun part about our life. Like

876
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Speaker 1: I went from you know, math, IBM computers to being

877
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Speaker 1: a comedian. Now you kind of still maintained your your

878
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Speaker 1: your land of communication because you stayed the technology and

879
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Speaker 1: lifestyle so so so I'm not saying that was but

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Speaker 1: but but there is still a transition. So I asked you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how what did you get the car offinitse When did

882
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Speaker 1: you get the belief did you could do this or

883
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Speaker 1: even or did you just nurtured along like I was

884
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Speaker 1: telling jokes at night, we'll use like building your brand

885
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Speaker 1: before you made the leap. Oh? Absolutely, And I mean

886
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Speaker 1: it really was nothing. But God, I can't take any

887
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Speaker 1: credit for this because this wasn't something that I had

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Speaker 1: always wanted to do and and finally had the courage

889
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Speaker 1: or whatever to do it. And you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: that little kid that you know used the hairbrush as

891
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Speaker 1: a microphone and acted like a TV hose in my mirror.

892
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Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that. Like I did not

893
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Speaker 1: have any designs on being on television before I actually

894
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Speaker 1: did it. And I just credited again to God giving

895
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Speaker 1: me this vision and putting me in the right places

896
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Speaker 1: at the right time to meet the right people that

897
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Speaker 1: sort of encouraged it and planted those scenes and in

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Speaker 1: my you know consciousness that hey, maybe I could actually

899
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Speaker 1: you know, make this work. But but no, to your point,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely my day jobs for a long time, and

901
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Speaker 1: you know, work to work the program at night on

902
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Speaker 1: the weekends, you know, late night, early night. You know,

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Speaker 1: at one point I was working with QVC that's a

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Speaker 1: twenty four hour UH station, so I might be there

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Speaker 1: at to thirty in the morning and have to go

906
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Speaker 1: straight into work or or whatever that whatever that looked like.

907
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you definitely, you know, hold onto your to

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Speaker 1: your paycheck for as long as possible and and get

909
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Speaker 1: your plan together and save your money and and figure

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Speaker 1: out how you're going to maintain your lifestyle or what

911
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Speaker 1: has to change about your lifestyle. That's the one thing

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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand. Some things are going to

913
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Speaker 1: have to change about your lifestyle when you make this transition.

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Speaker 1: At least at first, you know, you're gonna have to

915
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Speaker 1: cut back on some stuff. You're gonna have to you know,

916
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Speaker 1: maybe that vacation every year, I ain't gonna happen. Uh,

917
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Speaker 1: So you have to think about what that all is

918
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Speaker 1: gonna look like and put that plan in place before

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Speaker 1: you just jump ships. And more importantly, what I what

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Speaker 1: I tell people is that eight hours because over a

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Speaker 1: four the hour week gives your discipline to say, I

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Speaker 1: go to work at the here, I get off for five.

923
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Speaker 1: When you make that jump, there is no eight hours

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Speaker 1: that's right there. You know. In fact, you know people

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Speaker 1: will ask you. I know because they asked me, all,

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Speaker 1: what do you what did you do today? And I

927
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Speaker 1: look at them going, um, you know, because I have

928
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Speaker 1: I'll squinch. I was working. I was working. If you

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Speaker 1: want details, now, I need to think about what my

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Speaker 1: next move is and that requires time and work. And

931
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Speaker 1: you need to be quiet for a minute and maybe

932
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Speaker 1: go take a walk or go to the gym. I

933
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Speaker 1: get all my good ideas of the gym. So you

934
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Speaker 1: know that's work too. Let's talk about that. You know,

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Speaker 1: always hold a financial talk to the end, hold my audience,

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Speaker 1: you know, hold my listenership. Here. You have three apps

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Speaker 1: here that have to improve your finances and twenties called

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Speaker 1: mint Acorns and Robin Hood talked to us about those

939
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Speaker 1: three apps. Start with is an overall budgeting app. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna you can you can attach all of your accounts

941
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Speaker 1: to your bank accounts and if you have an investment

942
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Speaker 1: accounts and things like that. But it's gonna give you

943
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Speaker 1: that overall picture of where your money is going, because

944
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Speaker 1: you cannot get your finances on track until you know

945
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Speaker 1: where your money is going, so it will help you budget.

946
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Speaker 1: You can actually pay your bills through that app. You

947
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Speaker 1: can connect your you know, your light bill account, your

948
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Speaker 1: cable account, lots and stuff, pay your bills through the

949
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Speaker 1: app and just keep track of where your money is going.

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Speaker 1: So Men is a really really great, easy to use,

951
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Speaker 1: comprehensive tool for that. Then you get to Acorns. Now

952
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Speaker 1: this is where you start saving money. Acorns is going

953
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Speaker 1: to allow you to round up, so any of the

954
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Speaker 1: purchases you make with your bank card, it'll round that

955
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Speaker 1: purchase up to the nearest dollar and take that those

956
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Speaker 1: few pennies you know, whatever it is and put it

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Speaker 1: into an investment account and a savings account. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if you if you don't feel like you have enough money,

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Speaker 1: are you're not making enough money just yet to start

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Speaker 1: putting aside five of a month or or whatever you

961
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Speaker 1: can put it. You could put a quarter aside, you

962
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you're not even going to

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Speaker 1: miss it if you spend you know, six dollars and

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Speaker 1: seventy two cents, that that extra thirty cents or twenty

965
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Speaker 1: seven cents, twenty eight cents, you're not gonna miss that.

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Speaker 1: So why not just let that money start making, start

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Speaker 1: working for you and and saving it without having to

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Speaker 1: think about it. Let me let me just interrupt there

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Speaker 1: right quick, you know, because that's I have a jar

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Speaker 1: in my house, and so when I get changed, I

971
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Speaker 1: just throw it in that jar, I just throw it

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Speaker 1: in that job, right, and it's and it's a fish bowl.

973
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Speaker 1: It's like a little baby fish bowl. And so so

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Speaker 1: I decided to just take some of it because you

975
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Speaker 1: can go to the stores and they then go this

976
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Speaker 1: little machine and change it out right, thanking you how

977
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Speaker 1: much money it is I had, I just some of it.

978
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Speaker 1: It was like a thousand dollars just solve that could

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Speaker 1: have been money earned an interest somewhere. But I'm just

980
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Speaker 1: letting you know what you're saying, it's absolutely true because

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Speaker 1: you're talking about round up change. I was taking change change,

982
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Speaker 1: but instead of just leaving it in this fish bowl,

983
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Speaker 1: you're talking about investing in building interest, compounding along the way,

984
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Speaker 1: which I'm delaying. Everybody knows that there's a lot of

985
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Speaker 1: people do what I do. Just take change and just

986
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Speaker 1: throw it in the corner, just take chaining and just

987
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: let it just sit there, and then open up a drawer.

988
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Speaker 1: You got change in the bottom of the drawer, and

989
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: you push it all the one corner and then you

990
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Speaker 1: get it out and go, I got some Hamburger money.

991
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that, and so so so so.

992
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Speaker 1: So that's a good way of modernizing an old habit

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Speaker 1: where it can be financially beneficial to you. Call that's

994
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Speaker 1: called acorns. That's called acorn. That's gonna guess to take

995
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Speaker 1: those Take that little bit of change, but it's somewhere

996
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Speaker 1: where it can grow. And then robin Hood is once

997
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you get to the point where you're actually ready to

998
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Speaker 1: do some some serious investing and and building a portfolio.

999
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Robin Hood allows you to trade stocks for free, so

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Speaker 1: you can buy and sell shares of any stock on

1001
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Speaker 1: the stock exchange for free. It's a it's just a

1002
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: really easy way to um to get involved and get

1003
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Speaker 1: engaged and get started because you know a lot of

1004
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Speaker 1: stocks you don't have to start off with. You know,

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Speaker 1: Apple stock that costs a thousand dollars a share. You

1006
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Speaker 1: can start off with with real estate investment trust stocks

1007
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Speaker 1: that only cost sixteen dollars a share or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So you you start small and you build, and they're

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Speaker 1: actually they're they're they're actually introducing the idea of buying

1010
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Speaker 1: fractional stocks. So it's the same the same way that

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Speaker 1: Apple costs a thousand dollars. Maybe I can't buy a

1012
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Speaker 1: full share right now, but I got twenty dollars, so

1013
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: let me start building towards the time when I can

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Speaker 1: buy a full share of Apple or or Amazon or

1015
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Speaker 1: Google or whatever. So, um, it's just a great way

1016
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Speaker 1: to get involved in the stock market. It has tons

1017
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Speaker 1: of information that helps you, helps you do your research

1018
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Speaker 1: on the stocks that you're thinking about, and um, and

1019
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: then just kind of get involved, because that's that's how

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Speaker 1: you're gonna build that wealth. You know, just get the paycheck.

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Speaker 1: You know, unless you plan on being this EO, just

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Speaker 1: getting the paycheck may not do it for you, and

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Speaker 1: probably won't do it for most of us. You know,

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Speaker 1: people build well through stock purchases and through the stock market.

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Speaker 1: Warren Buffett got rich in the stock market. He ain't

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Speaker 1: get rich because he saved you know, his pennies and

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Speaker 1: his fish bowlt so. And so you want to start

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Speaker 1: thinking about uh, you know, start thinking about that, and

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Speaker 1: this is the way to do it that is not

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Speaker 1: is not high risk for you because you don't have

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Speaker 1: to spend a ton of money, and you don't have

1032
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: to spend money per transaction because once you start going

1033
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Speaker 1: to those uh price Waterhouses and and Goldman Sacks and

1034
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Speaker 1: and and those bigger companies, they charge you every time

1035
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Speaker 1: you want to buy or sell a share of stock.

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Speaker 1: Robin Hood doesn't do that. So it makes it takes

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Speaker 1: away the barrier to entry for people that will want

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Speaker 1: to get into the stock market. Meant a cars and

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Speaker 1: robin Hood, these are absent people can utilize and manage

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Speaker 1: and improve their finances. And I love if you want

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Speaker 1: to meant you know, it's awesome acorns. You know I

1042
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Speaker 1: just talked about that. I just need to upgrade my program,

1043
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Speaker 1: stop throwing money in the jar and start putting it

1044
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Speaker 1: in the bank or something. With this software that you

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Speaker 1: have out that Robin Hood. You know, I started out

1046
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Speaker 1: buying stock to you know, discount brokers like Charles Swab.

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Speaker 1: You know they charged me fees and you're talking about

1048
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Speaker 1: it was discount, right. That's what I'm just letting everybody know.

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Speaker 1: You know, now you're talking about you, I can still

1050
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Speaker 1: invest and grow my brand through that. It's just amazing

1051
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Speaker 1: what the information you always give out to us on

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Speaker 1: a data basis this time, Stephanie, I do want to

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Speaker 1: promote the fact when you go to Harvard and March

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Speaker 1: talk about to the death. Do you, Paul, do you

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Speaker 1: tweet just give me death? Do you tweet? And that's

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Speaker 1: a website ww dot till death? Do you tweet dot

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Speaker 1: com for more information? Stephanie Humphrey, a k A. Tech

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Speaker 1: Life staff, please come back sooner, come back to the well.

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Speaker 1: I won't I won't stay that way too long. Next time,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank you, Bye Bye. Money Making Conversations

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