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Speaker 1: welcome to the rich Sherman Podcast. I'm your host, Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: and here we are live on app. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We're back at it again. Mitchell, Seattle, San

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Speaker 1: Francisco both get wins. You must be happy, rich you

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Speaker 1: must be really happy. I mean this Seattle let's start

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Speaker 1: with Seattle. I know we got a lot of Seattle listeners,

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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, Um, you've got a good following up

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Speaker 1: Rich talk to me about Seattle. They're five and three.

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Speaker 1: How does this happen? Great coaching, great coaching, Gino m

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Speaker 1: But he's got thirteen touchdowns three interceptions on the season.

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Speaker 1: He's being the guy they need him to be. Kenneth

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Speaker 1: Walker Jr. And guess what the defense showed up. They

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Speaker 1: It was really great. But I felt bad for my guy,

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Speaker 1: Richie James. That's what that's a guy, you know, old

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Speaker 1: teammate of mine. Uh. I really is cheer cheer for

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Speaker 1: But O chena new WOA suit. It's going crazy right now, Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a steal of a free agent pick up.

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Speaker 1: every single pick, for the most part, is making a

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Speaker 1: and it just seems like he's getting the short end

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Speaker 1: of the stick even though he's showing like, hey, I

426
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Speaker 1: can make it happen now, captain, but they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: give him a shot, you know, and and and it

428
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Speaker 1: is what it is. He's taking advantage of his opportunity.

429
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Speaker 1: But Dak is going crazy. That is looking like an

430
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: old self. You know, he had he had an characteristic interception,

431
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: but he was he was he was doing a thing.

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00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: He was doing what he what he's supposed to do.

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00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: And again back to what he talked about when when

434
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Speaker 1: Cooper Russell was playing, they are not throwing at fifty

435
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: times a game. They're keeping it under thirty passes and

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00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: they're running the ball, which is all you can ask.

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00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the concerning thing is is you still don't

438
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: have a hunter yard receiver on the season. You know,

439
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: that's a bit of a concern. You expect was one

440
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Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, Ceedee Lamb has gotten a

441
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: lot of attention, that got a lot of hype, and

442
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,239
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a hundred yard game from him, um

443
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Speaker 1: gallop that there hasn't been a hundred yard game from him.

444
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Speaker 1: So that's a concern. But Cowboys are are are doing

445
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: their thing, man, and they got a bye week so

446
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: they can get healthier in Chicago. Justin Fields, I mean,

447
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing on that play. I mean,

448
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: he was pretty efficient this game with the ball. He

449
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't throw any interceptions, two touchdowns. He was running the ball.

450
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Speaker 1: They're finally doing what they're supposed to do. They're on offense.

451
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Speaker 1: They just don't have enough talent. The Chicago Bears are

452
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Speaker 1: finally a watchable team, is what I'll categorize him as.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean before I mean that you flip on the

454
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Speaker 1: TV and you're like, oh Man's water polo on. I

455
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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to watch these guys anymore.

456
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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, they've running the ball to

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Speaker 1: plush yards in the last three games. You know, they're

458
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Speaker 1: they're establishing an identity and they're doing what you said,

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Speaker 1: they're playing into justin fields strengths. But you know again

460
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Speaker 1: that that fumble return for a touchdown really was the

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Speaker 1: breaking point in this game. They just couldn't keep up anymore.

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Speaker 1: A game that everyone thought was going to be a

463
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Speaker 1: complete waste of time, you know, a game that we

464
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Speaker 1: thought would be searching for the channel changer to to

465
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 1: flip this game off as quick as possible turned into

466
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Speaker 1: be the best game of the weekend. And and that's

467
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Speaker 1: down in Atlanta, the Atlanta Falcons taking on the lowly

468
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, who have all of a sudden become an

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Speaker 1: exciting team ever since they traded Christian McCaffrey. Uh Deonta

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Speaker 1: Foreman's got to be pretty happy he's in that role

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Speaker 1: right now. Who's probably not so happy is d J. Moore.

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Speaker 1: Um big play. You know, obviously, emotions are high. You

473
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Speaker 1: catch a hail Mary and the waning seconds of the

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Speaker 1: game to tie the game and having an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: win it with the point after and you proceed to

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Speaker 1: rip your helmet off and and do what you do.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Emotions are high. But Richard,

478
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Speaker 1: that's your teammate. What are you saying to him? Nothing? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: The kicker sucked. Now we're not saying nothing, for you're

480
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Speaker 1: not saying nothing to that kid. He made a hell

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Speaker 1: of a play, and you can get up mad all

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Speaker 1: you want. He earned the right to do whatever the

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Speaker 1: heck he wanted after that play. You had no chance

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Speaker 1: of winning the ball game. He called a hell mary.

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Speaker 1: Heck of a past um by by P. J. Walker

486
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Speaker 1: heck of a catch by him. Kickers, do your job.

487
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Speaker 1: You got one job. Do your job and not he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He didn't just miss the extra point. He said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, when we get to ot, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: another shot and I'm gonna miss that one too. Like

491
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Speaker 1: that's who you need to be talking about. DJ Moore.

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Speaker 1: She get credit for giving him a chance to win

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00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: that ball game, like I hate the Monday morning quarterback

494
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Speaker 1: in this situation, Like he made a heck of a play,

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Speaker 1: like sure, oh, celebrate with your two, keep your help

496
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Speaker 1: or whatever kick there. If he kicked at your point,

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Speaker 1: it makes the extra point like his job is supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. Or if d J. Moore doesn't do his job,

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Speaker 1: like like Pinnaro didn't, then he drops that pass. And

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about nothing, you know, but if everybody

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Speaker 1: does their job, the kicker has one job. It's a

502
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Speaker 1: very difficult job. There's only thirty two kickers. But that's

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Speaker 1: why that's you don't you don't have to condition, you

504
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Speaker 1: don't get your body beat up like that. You have

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Speaker 1: your very specific job. And if you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a new kicker for for

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Speaker 1: the theres on come Monday, um, and so that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm putting this one on. D J. Moore had six

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Speaker 1: reception for one fifty two and a tug. He did

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Speaker 1: his job. C J. Henderson, Dante Jackson had interceptions. The

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Speaker 1: defense is playing well. This was a team that I

512
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be giving up on. I mean, I

513
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Speaker 1: still don't care about the game MENTU. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the NFC South. They have a losing record, and this

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Speaker 1: is I hear you. I want to say they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be relevant in in January, but I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: see the any of these teams being relevant in January.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe Tampa if they can, they can

519
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Speaker 1: figure it out because Tom, you got Tom. But outside

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Speaker 1: of that, I mean that's not great. Yeah, they're looking

521
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Speaker 1: like the dormat of the NFL. But you know who's

522
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Speaker 1: gonna be good? Kirk oh six and one kerk Oh

523
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Speaker 1: six and one Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell. They do not

524
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Speaker 1: look like a joke. They do not look like the joke.

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Speaker 1: They don't. I know. I took a little bit of

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Speaker 1: heat in the comments section when I said, how the

527
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Speaker 1: hell is this Minnesota team? Four and one this is

528
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. You know, I I didn't

529
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Speaker 1: believe in him, you know, and maybe I should believe

530
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Speaker 1: in him, and they I should believe in my fellow Spartan.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Kirk Cousins. You know I used to watch

532
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: that guy when I was in college. Just got this

533
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: guy carried the Spartans to a rose ball for God's sake,

534
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, borderline legend. And uh maybe, uh maybe maybe

535
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Speaker 1: I was wrong with the Vikings though Kirk. I told you.

536
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Speaker 1: I told people when Kirk is hot, he can do

537
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Speaker 1: it now like he two touchdowns thirty six to thirty

538
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Speaker 1: two Dalvin Cook. A good running game makes every quarterback's

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Speaker 1: life a lot easier. And also having Justin Jefferson and

540
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Speaker 1: Adam Feeling makes every quarterback's job a lot easier. But

541
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Speaker 1: Darius Smith and that defense Patrick Peterson, don't get Pat

542
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: p had a message for the Arizona Cardinals. Let him,

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Speaker 1: you know, over there playing playing Xbox, sending a message

544
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Speaker 1: to Kyler playing Xbox. Colin, if you wasn't playing Xbox,

545
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Speaker 1: then you wouldn't be having a deal with me today.

546
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Speaker 1: But if you would have watched the tape over the

547
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Speaker 1: last decade or so, then you would know who Patrick

548
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: Peterson is and not to deal with him, but you

549
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: try to deal with him, and you got dealt with.

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Speaker 1: It was it was cool to see. I always like

551
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: people from my class, that two thousand and eleven class, dear,

552
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: dear to my heart, and they bought out DeAndre Hopkins,

553
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: come back, come back, tours back, you know, twelve nine

554
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: and a tug one hander. It was crazy. Yeah, I

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: mean Pat p Patrick Peterson, like you said, his revenge game,

556
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: You've been in that same situation before, going back to Seattle,

557
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Speaker 1: playing in front of the twelve as a fan base

558
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: that loved and adored you for years. I know you guys,

559
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: says athletes just another game? Like truthfully, Rich, is it

560
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: just another game playing against your former team mental It's

561
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: just another game that you want to win and you

562
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: want to show your cheeks and you want to make

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00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: them man, you want to make up jealous. It's like

564
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's like you want to make a see

565
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: what they what they missing and and he made them

566
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Speaker 1: see it. Um, they won the game. You know, they

567
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: got good corner play and all that, but they lost.

568
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: In the reason they lost, he had a lot to

569
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: do with it. He had he had multiple deflections because

570
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: he made he made an impact throughout the game. Um

571
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: made Klars like very difficult. Kylers is not having a

572
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: bad game. They're really find the rhythm with that offense

573
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: six for thirty six, but it's just not enough and

574
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: that division is getting away from him. And again the

575
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: NFC North that was the a Rod Invitational for the

576
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: last two decades just looking like Minnesota to lose. That's

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Speaker 1: that's Kirk Cousins territory in time. Now, Rich, we talked

578
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: about the Cardinals a little bit. I mean, this is

579
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: a team they seem to get a little bit of

580
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: their there. I don't know what the word is exactly.

581
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: This team was a team without any sort of clarity really,

582
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't know who they were a week

583
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: to week, and it seems like they found their footing

584
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more with DeAndre Hopkins back. But Kyler Murray,

585
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean to me, just doesn't look like a guy

586
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: you pay north to forty million dollars a year. I mean,

587
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: first your thoughts on that, Rich, and how much does

588
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: paying somebody like Kayer Kyler that amount of money impact

589
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: this franchise going forward? Well, he's married to the coach.

590
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna go as he goes, and and just like

591
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: every other quarterback that gets a lot of money, you're

592
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna be stuck with him for a while. And that's

593
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing about this league when you draft a

594
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: quarterback early. They drafted him after they had already drafted

595
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen with the top ten pick, and so the

596
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: new coaching staff they had to, hey, say, hey, we

597
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: made a mistake. We this new coaching staff wants another quarterback,

598
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: so they have to eat that. And so you compounding

599
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: that with saying, hey, he hasn't had a lot of success.

600
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of doing what we wanted to do.

601
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: We got us to the playoffs technically, but how many

602
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks and how many people can we acclimate tour?

603
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Like do we want to go back into rebuilding? No,

604
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: we don't want to go back into rebuilding. So what

605
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: are options? He has them? By he had them, He

606
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: had him. They had to make a decision. They had

607
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: to extend him. And that's what's happening. Like Trevor Lawrence,

608
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: he just needs one good year and he'll have the

609
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars to to say, hey, would you take a

610
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: average to above average quarterback or have a below average quarterback?

611
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Speaker 1: And if you take average to a lot above average

612
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: quarterback and pay him the amount of money that you're

613
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: paying him, you know, this is a situation you get

614
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: into like you're married to him. Your team's three and five,

615
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: and you don't see a lot of hope in the future.

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00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you have a lot of

617
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: picks like Seattle Seahawks have hope because they have multiple

618
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: first round picks at cap room. They have all these

619
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: things going for and their attractive destination. Hey, coach, people

620
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: want to play for right now. Arizona doesn't have that.

621
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Speaker 1: You know, they have some good players, they have DeAndre

622
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins and they're starting to make things happen on offense.

623
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Speaker 1: But the quarterback, you know, it's still a wild car

624
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Speaker 1: And this weekend is a rap. I'll let you sign

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Speaker 1: us off um as we lead into Sunday Night Football

626
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Speaker 1: on Monday Night. Well, I appreciate you guys joining us

627
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Speaker 1: again for another episode Catch us Wednesday. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: as always, love and respect. Catch TNF on every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: T NF Tonight starts at seven pm Eastern. Be there

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