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Speaker 2: All Right, here we.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I'm Duck

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Speaker 3: and I'm joined by BBOC co host Colin Wilson and

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Speaker 3: Mike Calabreys for a special Heisman preview. Action has been

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Speaker 3: awarding their equally prestigious Gambling Heisman Trophy to players annually

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Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen, but today we get to dive into

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Speaker 3: the betting menu for the real thing, the most prestigious

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Speaker 3: award in sports, an award that's seen a quarterback win

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Speaker 3: at twelve of the last fifteen years, and preseason long

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Speaker 3: shots are now casing with regularity. This is a great

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Speaker 3: market to build your portfolio around early and then kind

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Speaker 3: of piece together the rest of the finalists during the season.

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Speaker 3: BBOC has actually had some success in this market in

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Speaker 3: recent years. Breezy, I think it was you last year

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Speaker 3: who was talking about Travis Hunter at thirty three to one.

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Speaker 3: It was you, wasn't it. If I'm not mistaken, I add.

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Speaker 1: Hunter at thirty three to one. I also had Gent

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Speaker 1: at twenty five to one. These books can hang some

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Speaker 1: real stale numbers that do not update in real time.

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Speaker 1: I grabbed GenZ after that Georgia Southern game where he

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Speaker 1: had six touchdowns. It was still probably in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: But numbers are not moving in the same way that

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Speaker 1: they are for the futures market for conference titles, for

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Speaker 1: national titles. So the early bird gets the worm in

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Speaker 1: terms of getting the best number. And that's not just preseason,

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Speaker 1: but that's all in season as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great time to start building that portfolio

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Speaker 3: and trying to pluck value. Really in the menu. Now

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Speaker 3: we see there's really three tiers that are priced. There's

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Speaker 3: the short favorites, usual suspects that we see that are

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Speaker 3: to sixty to one participants, and then we've got the

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Speaker 3: long shots baby one hundred to one or more. So

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Speaker 3: we'll break this into three kind of mini segments. Colin,

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Speaker 3: I'll kick it to you to start with the kind

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Speaker 3: of the short favorites that we're looking at here, So

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Speaker 3: talk to me about what you're seeing for value in

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you can't have a Heisman podcast not talk

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Speaker 2: about arch Manning, Right, And the best number that I

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Speaker 2: And let's talk about the fact. Let's just go high

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Speaker 2: level here, because I think Travis Hunter really kind of

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Speaker 2: But Travis Hunter kind of redefined it. It's hype Now

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Speaker 2: it's not necessarily numbers. It is hype. When does that

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Speaker 2: If there's a guy out there that has all of

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Speaker 2: at plus seven to fifty, and in my opinion, this

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Speaker 2: If he puts together a mediocre performance and gets Texas

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Speaker 2: last year, like still Travis Hunter almost did Wine. He

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Speaker 2: you may see a split in first place votes. But

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Speaker 2: Arch Manning this is his to lose, because if he

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Speaker 2: He should be Steve Starkesian's holy water at the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Why we're running toss to Weisner against Ohio State, I

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Speaker 2: have no clue. You should have been Arch running RPO

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Speaker 2: the Heisman votes are due the next day. So again,

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Speaker 2: if Arch lives up to eighty percent of his expectations,

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Speaker 3: So last year we saw Texas after they played Georgia

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Speaker 3: Arch doesn't play as best, it's a low scoring defensive battle.

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Speaker 2: Performance? I don't think so. And the reason I've already

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Speaker 2: I expect him to accumulate and build the numbers and

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Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I'm jumping on Arch

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Speaker 1: Menu before I make my case for my short favorite,

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Arch, you just you

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Speaker 1: right at as Thanksgiving table. Peyton never won a Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 1: huge leg up. Everybody in the world knows Arch Manning,

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Speaker 1: He's on every magazine cover. But also it's a double

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Speaker 1: I would need it closer to ten. And while I

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Speaker 1: Them losing the opener, if they play a competitive game

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Speaker 1: still a zero and zero record in SEC play, they

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Speaker 1: It's just not the case. So I would prefer to

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit better than some of those preseason

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Speaker 1: numbers on guys like Trevor Lawrence on Bryce Young, it's

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Speaker 1: still not quite to the level I want, which brings

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Speaker 1: me to my player here as a short favorite, Garrett

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Speaker 1: Nsmeyer nine to one out in the market. The upside

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Speaker 1: and the play here is simple. This entire offense is

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Speaker 1: built around him being a star. They've given him the

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Speaker 1: best receiving core in the SEC, both Anderson's. You'll get

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Speaker 1: Hilton Junior potentially having a breakout season. This offense needs

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Speaker 1: He came back with the Heisman Trophy. He is an

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Speaker 1: a lister in terms of his name brand going into

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Speaker 1: All this being said, Brian Kelly's already shown it to me.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think the narrative is just so interesting

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Speaker 2: When you're looking at betting the Heisman.

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Speaker 3: now we'll jump into the mid tier participants. These are

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Speaker 3: in November, Breezy, I'll kick it to you first. What

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Austin Simmons, a first time

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Speaker 3: So let's circle back real quick, because he just talked

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on what happens

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Speaker 3: Colin, there's value throughout the entire betting menu in the

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Speaker 2: Yes? Does this player have a hype machine that can

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Speaker 2: break from cooking some barbecue, flies on up there and

434
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Speaker 2: yells boomer on the stage every single year, and we

435
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Speaker 2: just keep adding trophies to this program, which means more

436
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Speaker 2: of them are voters, which means more of them are

437
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Speaker 2: going to vote for their university. Every year and that

438
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Speaker 2: is University of Oklahoma, and that is John Mattiir. John Mattiir,

439
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Speaker 2: who is going to survive this little sports betting venmo

440
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Speaker 2: thing that he's got going on. You know, listen if

441
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Speaker 2: you don't know anything about this kid. He ran for

442
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Speaker 2: one thousand yards last year at Wazoo six hundre. Those

443
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Speaker 2: came off of design calls. It's not like he scrambled

444
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Speaker 2: his way to one thousand yards. He can run. Not

445
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Speaker 2: only that, he had twelve explosive runs, twelve runs that

446
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Speaker 2: went over fifteen yards. He's just a third down cheat code.

447
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Speaker 2: It's just really not fair what he can do when

448
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Speaker 2: he has a little bit of space. And oh, by

449
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Speaker 2: the way, he forced fifty four missed tackles last year

450
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Speaker 2: on one hundred and forty nine rushing attempts. And if

451
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Speaker 2: you want to know what kind of rate that is

452
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Speaker 2: on creating jukes and making people miss JENTI was about

453
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Speaker 2: forty percent, just a little bit higher than what Mateir

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Speaker 2: was doing last year. You can talk about the strength

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Speaker 2: of Wazoo schedule and the number of tacklers I went

456
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Speaker 2: up against, but Ash Jenny really kind of had the

457
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Speaker 2: same thing. So John Mattiir can absolutely Cook on the ground,

458
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Speaker 2: but he's a quarterback. He went twenty nine to seven

459
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Speaker 2: TD to I int ratio. His turnover worthy play rate

460
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Speaker 2: at Wazoo dropped from four point eight percent down to

461
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Speaker 2: three point five percent. That gets just a little bit better.

462
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Speaker 2: We're talking massive Heisman numbers here. Someone that can be

463
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Speaker 2: one thousand yards ahead of arch Manning, someone that maybe

464
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Speaker 2: could hold a Red River win and hold that above him.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did we mention that Oklahoma's offensive coordinator

466
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Speaker 2: has been ourbugle, one of the most up and coming

467
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators in the entire nation. Now he's in Norman,

468
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Speaker 2: calling his own quarterback, a system that Materi is going

469
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Speaker 2: to be completely comfortable with from day one. I mean,

470
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Speaker 2: a victory over Michigan in week two, forget it, it's over.

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Speaker 2: Matier is in the top five, top four, top three

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Speaker 2: of these numbers on the Heisman pole. This is similarly

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Speaker 2: priced to what OU is to win the SEC. But

474
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Speaker 2: for John Matier to win the Heisman, OU doesn't have

475
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Speaker 2: to win the SEC. So John Mattier to win the Heisman. Look,

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Speaker 2: I think I've been talking about this since I took

477
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Speaker 2: over six and a half back in like February that

478
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Speaker 2: Matier is the big thing. So I think these numbers

479
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Speaker 2: are going to continue to sink, and if they beat Michigan,

480
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Speaker 2: this number will never exist again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no question about Matier.

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Speaker 3: He carried Wazoo offensively on his back last season, game

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Speaker 3: in and game out. What I'm concerned about is his

485
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Speaker 3: durability and can he hold up against an SEC caliber

486
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Speaker 3: athlete schedule? And is he going to stay healthy? And

487
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Speaker 3: is he going to win enough bets oh, excuse me,

488
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Speaker 3: enough games for him to get into that conversation. Is oh,

489
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Speaker 3: you gonna win enough? And is he going to stay

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Speaker 3: durable enough against SEC caliber athletes? You have any concerns

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Speaker 3: about any of that?

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Speaker 2: Zero? I mean he took a I mean, if he

493
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Speaker 2: continues to create fifty four misstackles and he doesn't get touched, now,

494
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Speaker 2: of course he's gonna get popped. Of course he's gonna

495
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Speaker 2: get hit. But let's just say, if I'm playing the

496
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Speaker 2: luck and I'm playing the odds, the injury regression at

497
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Speaker 2: OU should be over. After what happened last year. I've

498
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Speaker 2: never seen anything like that. I've never seen a baseball

499
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Speaker 2: team have as many injuries as what OU had on

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Speaker 2: their offensive side of the ball last year, so I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say my tier stays healthy.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's talk long shots. The lotto ticket plays.

503
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Speaker 3: We get to bet a little to win a lot

504
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Speaker 3: Who in this tier could have a dream season and

505
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Speaker 3: see their invitation to New York in December? Come to fruition, Colin,

506
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Speaker 3: Let's start with you. Who do you like in this tier?

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Speaker 2: I can't find it to korn more number, so I'm

508
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Speaker 2: not gonna be real long on this. I talked about

509
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Speaker 2: him on the Big Ten podcast. If you don't know

510
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Speaker 2: to Kory name. He is recruited by everybody. I mean

511
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: everybody and their mother in college football wanted this kid.

512
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Speaker 2: He is a gonna be a complete nuisance to everybody

513
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Speaker 2: on the organ schedule. I don't know if he can

514
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Speaker 2: get touch. You want to talk about creating miss tackles.

515
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Speaker 2: This kid is the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen.

516
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Speaker 2: His recruiting profiles said sudden bursts from a stop like

517
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Speaker 2: I mean, I watched him do his track and field

518
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Speaker 2: and think about what the Oregon offense is. They Dylan

519
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Speaker 2: Gabriel bo nix their short passing six yards average depth

520
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Speaker 2: of target. They're not a bomber's that plays into Corey

521
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Speaker 2: Moore and what he's gonna get from Dante Moore. He's

522
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Speaker 2: gonna get short passes that's gonna allow him to cook.

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Speaker 2: Just go to his Twitter, just scroll his Twitter. He

524
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Speaker 2: gets little short dumpouts and then he makes everybody look

525
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Speaker 2: like an idiot. I mean, we're talking Ryan Williams two

526
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Speaker 2: point zero, the version that went up Span three sixty

527
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Speaker 2: in the mid air and then juked two highly recruited

528
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Speaker 2: Georgia secondary players out of their shoes. That's what you're

529
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Speaker 2: getting with the Corey Moore. I can't find a number,

530
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Speaker 2: so we're not gonna go that big on it, but

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Speaker 2: I will say Kenny Minshee at Notre Dame ninety to

532
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Speaker 2: one is out there right now. I believe one of

533
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Speaker 2: our other media outlets just released a note this morning

534
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Speaker 2: saying minshe has taken the lead on CJ. Carr so

535
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Speaker 2: that this ninety to one might not even exist by

536
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Speaker 2: the time you guys listen to this. But looks like

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Speaker 2: he's going to be potentially the game one starter against Miami,

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Speaker 2: and why wouldn't he be? He can run the Riley

539
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Speaker 2: Leonard offense. Mike Denbrock doesn't have to do anything to

540
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Speaker 2: change the playbook because this kid is six two two

541
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Speaker 2: twenty and can run on the ground, something CJ. Carr

542
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Speaker 2: is not really built to do from the recruiting profile

543
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Speaker 2: because minshe's been there is this third year in the system,

544
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Speaker 2: but he hasn't had any experience whatsoever. A quick titch,

545
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Speaker 2: quick twitch athlete, natural escapability and excels on the move

546
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Speaker 2: outside the pocket. This sounds like Riley Leonard, right, this

547
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Speaker 2: is his third season. I think he's a smarter choice

548
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Speaker 2: to go on the road. If he excels, they beat Miami.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that number in the market has

550
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Speaker 2: gone from three down to two, just on the CJ

551
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Speaker 2: car news. But CJ. Carr was never a viable option

552
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Speaker 2: the first place. Didn't know anything about him. Mintion to

553
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Speaker 2: me is way better option here to go on the road.

554
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Speaker 2: Keep in mind with Notre Dame. Remember hype machine, they've

555
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Speaker 2: got it. Remember voters, they've got them. Keep this in mind.

556
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Speaker 2: No championship game for Notre Dame, right, they're November schedule, Navy,

557
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Speaker 2: Pitt SYRAHCU Stanford it Menchi somehow wins this job and

558
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Speaker 2: gets that November schedule. You know, barring Pit just absolutely

559
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Speaker 2: destroying Notre Dames offensive line, which I don't think will happen.

560
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Speaker 2: That is a healthy road in November to hype up

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Speaker 2: these Heisman numbers. So you're taking a shot it's ninety

562
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Speaker 2: to one. You're taking a shot the sez A Car

563
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Speaker 2: is not starter. I don't think he will be. He's

564
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Speaker 2: not the great fit for this offense. And you're taking

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Speaker 2: a shot that Minshea and Notre Dame are going to

566
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Speaker 2: go to the playoff. I think they are. Ninety one

567
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Speaker 2: is great value for a guy that just took the

568
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Speaker 2: lead as the number one quarterback at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting news developments that just came out this morning.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an easy narrative to get behind. It's

571
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Speaker 3: the starting quarterback at Notre Dame. If they're winning and

572
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Speaker 3: everything's going well, it's kind of easy to rally behind that.

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Speaker 3: Couple questions though, for you callin a do you think

574
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Speaker 3: the stats will be there to get him some serious

575
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Speaker 3: consideration based on the style of offense that they play?

576
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Speaker 3: And also do you think the leash will be long

577
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Speaker 3: enough to where if something doesn't go right early on

578
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Speaker 3: in the season, do they pull the plug and go

579
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Speaker 3: to CJ. Car Anyway, what are your thoughts If CJ.

580
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Speaker 3: Car is still throwing interceptions as a second string, then no,

581
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Speaker 3: he won't get it. But I think it also matters

582
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Speaker 3: on what Notre Dame schedule is. Remember the bread and

583
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Speaker 3: butter is Jemielov.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be behind this offensive line which

585
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Speaker 2: has guys to replace in the two deep, and that's

586
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Speaker 2: going to allow Minshee to fall into his RPO role.

587
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Speaker 2: Right Notre Dame, den Brock was a heavy inside zone.

588
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Speaker 2: That's going to give Minshe his turn. He's at least

589
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Speaker 2: going to be a candidate. I know you're talking from

590
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Speaker 2: a numbers perspective. Will he have it? We're going to

591
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Speaker 2: need the passing stats, and I will argue that what

592
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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard there had is now better this year for

593
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Speaker 2: Kevin Minshee because Jaden Greathhouse has another year under his belt.

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Speaker 2: All these other wide receivers are becoming I mean two

595
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Speaker 2: years ago the Notre Dame was receiver room was a

596
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Speaker 2: dumpster fire of freshmen that had no experience. If we

597
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: don't even know who was lining up where the names

598
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: were non existent. Now we actually have a wide receiver number,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see if Denbrock's offense morphs a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, this is the same guy called an

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Speaker 2: offense for Jaden Daniels and Riley Leonard always scared about

602
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: his health always and maybe that, you know, kept Denbrock

603
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Speaker 2: from calling more plays. Riley Leonard's way could be different

604
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Speaker 2: from Minchie. We'll see. But again it's a ninety one,

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Speaker 2: You're correct. Can I accumulate the stats? I will sub

606
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Speaker 2: that with Notre Dame at ten and two is a

607
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: always a playoff team and b has a Heisman candidate

608
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Speaker 2: up there somewhere on the board.

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Speaker 3: Breezy, you know I love FCS football and I love

610
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Speaker 3: a good FCS story. We've seen tons of players transfer

611
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Speaker 3: from FCS to FBS over the last couple of seasons.

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Speaker 3: You got anything about a story of an FCS guy

613
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Speaker 3: who might be able to create a little hype this season,

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Speaker 3: Anything that I can maybe chew on a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I do, And I think to start this narrative, we

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Speaker 1: have to start with the beginning of the show, which

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Speaker 1: was arch Manning. Arch Manning not only is playing in

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Speaker 1: the shadow of his own family, but also Texas Vince

619
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Speaker 1: Young didn't win a Heisman, Colt McCoy didn't win a heisman.

620
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Speaker 1: Quinn Ewers was the highest rated quarterback recruit in the

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Speaker 1: history of the services didn't come close to winning a heisman.

622
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Speaker 1: So no matter what he does, he's going to be

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Speaker 1: compared to other players, not only at his school but

624
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Speaker 1: also in the SEC. He got sixty touchdown seasons out

625
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Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow, he got Cam Newton what he did

626
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Speaker 1: in his first year. Let's flip that narrative around. Let's

627
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Speaker 1: look for a guy that needs to just step over

628
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Speaker 1: the bar, which is basically on the ground, and that's

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Speaker 1: Mark Gronowski at Iowa. Let's get all the jokes out

630
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Speaker 1: of the way. Punting is winning the drive for three

631
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Iowa has been the laughing stock of offensive

632
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Speaker 1: football at the P four level for really ten years.

633
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Speaker 1: But now Grannie comes in and, for my money, if

634
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Speaker 1: he accounts for forty touchdowns and he takes this Iowa

635
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Speaker 1: team to the playoff kind of out of nowhere, in

636
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Speaker 1: the same way that Indiana crashed the playoffs last year,

637
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be able to climb that

638
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Speaker 1: college football mountain and get an invite to New York

639
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Speaker 1: because when you look at what he's been able to

640
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Speaker 1: do in his career, it has been incredible from a

641
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Speaker 1: dual threat perspective. Forty nine wins in fifty five starts.

642
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Speaker 1: When you dig in offensively to what he was able

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Speaker 1: to do, and I get it. Listen, people are going

644
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Speaker 1: to make jokes, Oh, it's FCS football, you know it's

645
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Speaker 1: JV football. The Nebraska Twitter machine got all fired up

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Speaker 1: this summer saying, here's some clips of him against Oklahoma

647
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Speaker 1: State looking like crap. Let's talk about that Oklahoma State

648
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Speaker 1: game just for a second. I want to get super specific.

649
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Speaker 1: That was the game that proved that he can't play

650
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Speaker 1: at this level.

651
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Speaker 2: Right.

652
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: He was twenty for thirty seven for two sixty four,

653
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: two touchdowns at a pick. That was his worst day

654
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Speaker 1: of his college career. Because when you look at the

655
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: rest of it, if you want a cherry pick, let's

656
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Speaker 1: go ahead and cherry pick his eleven FCS playoff games,

657
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: so he's playing against the best of the best at

658
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Speaker 1: that level. He went ten in one of those games.

659
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Thirty total touchdowns, three interceptions. The guy is a capital

660
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Speaker 1: P problem. He is a rushing threat, both in terms

661
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: of short yardage when he gets out of the goal line,

662
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: extending plays. He's a great intermediate passer and when you

663
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Speaker 1: pair him with what Tim Lester wants to do. This

664
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Speaker 1: is the same Tim Lester that took them from the

665
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Speaker 1: absolute bottom of the barrel offensively to last year they

666
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: scored twenty seven and a half points per game. For

667
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Speaker 1: them to jump up to being top thirty offensively, which

668
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: is where I think they need to get to, they

669
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Speaker 1: need to add six more points per game. They had

670
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Speaker 1: no quarterback last year at all. So not only do

671
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Speaker 1: you have Lester working his magic, he brings in the

672
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Speaker 1: former oc from wake Forest, who, by the way, turned

673
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Speaker 1: Sam Hartman with the slow Mesh into a statistical monster.

674
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Speaker 1: People forget. This is one of those seasons that I

675
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Speaker 1: think got lost the time for the Demon Deacons. He

676
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Speaker 1: accounted for fifty total touchdowns and to be able to say,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, Iowa, what do they have in the perimeter,

678
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: what do they have in the backfield? What did wake

679
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Speaker 1: Forest have that all of a sudden they were a

680
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: guarantee to create a quarterback with fifty total touchdowns? I

681
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: see Lester. I see what he did with Caleb Ellobie

682
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: at Western Michigan as well. He had a huge season,

683
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: doing a lot on the ground, through the air, and

684
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Speaker 1: a breakout year in Kalamazoo are there. And schedule wise,

685
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: once again, I always come back to the schedule, what

686
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Speaker 1: is Iowa going to do. They're going to set the

687
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: expectations low. People are going to be clowning them offensively.

688
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: They get Albany and UMass in the first three weeks.

689
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: They also get huge spotlight opportunities. They got the Syhawk

690
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: game in ames home games against Indiana, Oregon, Penn State.

691
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: That's three teams come into Iowa City that made the

692
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: college football Playoff last year and Penn State. It's been

693
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: a house of horrors going to Iowa City as a

694
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: top five team. They lost in two thousand and eight,

695
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: they've lost in twenty twenty one. I think this is

696
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: a real opportunity for them to score some program changing,

697
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: at least narrative changing wins. You're trading in also, by

698
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the way, late in the season they go to USC

699
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: where usually you know you have awful weather in Iowa.

700
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: Late in the season, you're trading thirty degrees snowy wind

701
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: for seventy four degrees and no humidity. In a November

702
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: game against a USC team with Lincoln Riley that maybe's

703
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: thrown up the white flag and doesn't care anymore. All

704
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can put up huge stats in

705
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: a game like that as well. I am just enamored

706
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: with this guy because when you win the FCS Heightsman,

707
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: the Walter Payton Award, you know some guys who won

708
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo, Jimmy G. Cooper Cup. These guys were

709
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: all dogs at that level and then proves it in

710
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. This whole JV narrative, I think is ridiculous.

711
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: It has been from the start because you look at

712
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: his entire body of work. His pro football focus resumes

713
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: last two years in college nearly a three to one

714
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: big time throw to turn over worthy percentage in terms

715
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Speaker 1: of what he was able to do. If you look

716
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Speaker 1: at the last five Heisman finalists that were quarterbacks, including

717
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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels who won it, they were basically in that

718
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: same neighbor at two point eight to one big time

719
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: throw to turnover worthy play ratio. So I see this

720
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Speaker 1: as an opportunity to grab a guy who really comps

721
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: to me. This is the big headline for me. He

722
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: comps closer to Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson came in from

723
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: NC State, he was a little bit underwhelming with the

724
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Speaker 1: wolf Pack. There's a question that is going to be

725
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: forced out as their starting quarterback. He goes to Wisconsin,

726
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: a team that won with defense and the running game,

727
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: leads the nation passing efficiency forty total touchdowns. If it

728
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Speaker 1: was a twelve team college football playoff, he would have

729
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: punched his ticket that season. They had that fluky loss

730
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Speaker 1: to Michigan State, Kirk Cousins Kirk o Chains goes for

731
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: the hell Mary at the end of that game they lose.

732
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Speaker 1: If they make the college shoot ball playoff in this

733
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Speaker 1: current environment, I think voters would have given him a

734
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: hard look. He finished ninth in that Heisman race, I

735
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: think he would have finished closer to the top five. Now,

736
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: obviously it was a absolutely stacked quarterback race between Andrew

737
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Luck and RG three, who ended up winning it. But

738
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Speaker 1: I think that's the comp here, and to be able

739
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Speaker 1: to get a guy at one hundred and fifty to

740
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: one who you know basically grades out in my opinion

741
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: in terms of fit, in terms of dual threat ability,

742
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson. You can do a lot worse in

743
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: this Heisman market than Mark Gronowski. So I'm going to

744
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: go with the former Jack rag Rabbit from South Dakota,

745
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: South Dakota State and fire this ticket in.

746
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: How crucial does that October eighteenth home bout against Penn

747
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: State loom Then, in regards to Granowski and his opportunity

748
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: to make some noise in the Heisman market.

749
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Speaker 1: He's got to win. He's got to win either against

750
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Oregon or against penns home. You get one of those

751
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: two wins, you shock the world. You get all the

752
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: eyeballs on you. If you look at some of his performances,

753
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: including beating North Dakota State in the FCS playoffs, this

754
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: kid has played in big moments before. The lights are

755
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: not going to be too bright, and I think they're

756
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: going to have to rely on him because he can't

757
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: just turn around and hand the ball to a running

758
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: back who's now playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They need

759
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: him to be the offensive engine. And like I said,

760
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: if they can crack the top thirty thirty five offensively

761
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: and he can account for thirty five thirty six touchdowns

762
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, I think the narrative

763
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: is going to work in his favor. It has been

764
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: over twenty years since Brad Banks really came out of

765
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: nowhere and exceeded expectations as a starter for the Hawkeys.

766
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I think this is what can happen again. It put

767
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: him in the running to be able to get Heisman

768
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: votes that year. I think the same is going to

769
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: take place here. And it's critical in my opinion, to

770
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: be able to score one of these long shots to

771
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: get to New York because then it makes it easier

772
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season to build up the

773
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: rest of your portfolio. So the end up with three

774
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: or four candidates out of five in New York, and

775
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: then you got a great chance to cash. There.

776
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: You have it.

777
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: We have any other thoughts, guys on any other value

778
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: plays in the Heisman market today?

779
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: Reach out if decoring more numbers are out there. I

780
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it's a freshman, but wait till

781
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: we see him play. Maybe we're a little early on that,

782
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: but that's that's kind of what I would say if

783
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: you want some I don't know, is there I'll toss

784
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: this de breeze afterwards. But is there a player out

785
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: there that I absolutely wouldn't touch. It'd probably be Drew Aller.

786
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I would rather take Penn State numbers. I

787
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: love Penn State. I think they're going to make the

788
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: national championship game. I think they're a least going to

789
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: make the semi finals. I have a national title bet

790
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: on them. I'm not going to touch it till later.

791
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: But there are issues with Drew Aller specifically, doesn't throw

792
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: the ball away, specifically takes too much sacks specifically, can't

793
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: read pre snap blitz. So I think if there's a

794
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: name out there on the upper list, he's at sixteen

795
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: to one right now, I wouldn't touch that name. I

796
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: would almost throw Lenora's cellars in there. But the problem

797
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: is he's a one man show, and I think at

798
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: some point you're going to get hurt. It's and you

799
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: know the way that he runs. We talk about Notre

800
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: Dame and what they do with Riley Leonard and Minshee,

801
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: and there gonna be an injury situation there. Let's all

802
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: these guys get injured. But nobody has a bigger chance

803
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: of being injured than Lenora Sellers by far. So Breeze,

804
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know before we wrap this up, if you

805
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: have a name, and like I would never touch Carson

806
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: Beck right, it's in between the ears. What's going on

807
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: up here. I'm not putting my money on that either,

808
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: So Breeze, I might have ran through three of them.

809
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: At the top of this is there's someone that you

810
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't touch.

811
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew Aller is of no interest to me. I

812
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: think the book's already been written on him and Frankly,

813
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: James Franklin. They are going to beat the stuffing out

814
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: of teams that they should and then let's see what

815
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: it happens when they play against you know, top ten

816
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: teams historically not very good for Franklin. Drew Aller craft

817
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: his pants ley in that Notre Dame game. I feel

818
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: like that's closer to who he is. Andy Kotal Nicky

819
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: is going to be able to scheme up a lot

820
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: of easy throws, some empty calories for him in this offense.

821
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: But anyone with eyes is going to look at that

822
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: offense and say, can I give the Heisman Trophy to

823
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: the guy who's not even the best offensive player on

824
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: his own team, Whether it's you know, Nick the quick

825
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: or Fat Allen out of that backfield, Either one of

826
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: those guys, to me, I think are going to be

827
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: better NFL players. I think they could go for over

828
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: one thousand yards double digitts no problem. So I think

829
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: that's a real problem, you know, a kickback to the

830
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: ninety four season where he had Kerry Collins anka John

831
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Nick Carter splitting up picks in terms of splitting up VOTs,

832
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: I should say in the Heisman race. So he's of

833
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: no interest to me at that price point. I will

834
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: do two quarterbacks that I want to just see a

835
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: little bit of live game action. I will see the

836
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: bullets flying around, and hopefully I don't lose too much

837
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: value on where they're sitting right now. Both fifty to

838
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: fifty to one Mendoza for Indiana and Devin dan Pier

839
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: for Utah. Because if you don't like Lenora sellers at

840
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: sixteen to one because of the injury risk, which I

841
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: think is a smart way to think about it, how

842
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: about fifty to one on Dan Peer, who's going to

843
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: need to be just a magician offensively for him, he

844
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: ran for over one thousand yards last year. Double digits

845
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: on the ground brings his OC from New Mexico. They're

846
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: going to rely on him to be that offensive engine.

847
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: But he's not a huge guy. So if I can

848
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: see them use him that way, and that opener against UCLA.

849
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: He goes from north to three hundred total yards, multiple touchdowns.

850
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: I think grabbing him, even if I had to take

851
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a haircut down to forty to one.

852
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that they're utilizing him

853
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: the same way they did it at New Mexico and

854
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: then Mendoza. At this point, we know a few things. One,

855
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: it's that this system is going to work for quarterbacks.

856
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: It worked for Rourke last year. We also know that

857
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: he has an incredible supporting cast Elijah Surat out on

858
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: the perimeter, and a head coach who's a total maniac

859
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: who will try to run it up, who feels slighted

860
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: when he gets out of bed in the morning. He's

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Speaker 1: As long as they use him the same way they

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Speaker 2: So be it.

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Speaker 1: But that's where I am on some of those middle

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Speaker 2: Fire Glad We got dam Pire mentioned on this podcast

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