1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Murder. She wrote, Welcome back 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a room 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosn't All. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: What up? Boys? Whenever we can. We've Angela Lansbury's legacy 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: into our podcast. We must do that. We obviously it's funny, 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: funny enough. It's the fourteenth time we've had a Landsbury mentioned, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: and that open. People don't know. It's like an Easter 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: egg on a DVD. Um, how's everybody doing? You haven't 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: done a show since Sunday? I'm doing great. Any show 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: that can start off like you said, with an homage 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: to former Giants kicker Pat Summer. All why as Gregg 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: is already flashing his trivia knowledge, because today is the 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: big day and there there are nerves in the room 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: right now. I could tell you Greg's been a little 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: a little tight downstairs. I've noticed because it is his 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: first buster. Douglas defense of his title is w has 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: a nice ring to it. No, it doesn't. Yeah, the 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: only neutrage, The only nerves are from Wesseling having to 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: watch this go on today and just know that he's 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to be in the room to watch someone 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: else taking his crown and joining it. It's great so 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: win win proposition. Either I win and I continue the rain, 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: or I lose An in this stupid game, and either 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: way I'll still be one and overs we we we 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: no mad on what I feel like. You're right, Greg, 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: It's like a country music song. I came home to 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: find someone else's car and my wife's garage. I toast 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: her in another man's drawer. I feel like don King 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: a little bit where I see what the event I 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: have right now, and I'm promoting it. I'm excited about 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: him looking forward to it and and the financial windfall 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 1: that could come from it. But I'm I'm thinking ahead. 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking how Titanic Rosenthal v. Westling the rematch would 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: be down the line. I'm thinking in February. So I'm 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: actively going to be rooting for Greg, but at the 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: same time coming up with the questions, which I did 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: along with Mark and west today. There's no way that 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I I fudged or we fudgeted it all. This is 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a fair competition, and our two callers that 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: on listeners that are gonna take on Greg. You're gonna 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: have an equal shot. Think it's gonna be a fair 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: shot to take the toaster from Explain to most of 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the people what this is. Yeah, it's a it's a 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: a trivia game of a valor and skill in which 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: each contestant gets a chance to answer six trivia questions. 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: We've been doing it for over a year now, and 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: West was the champion. It was my toaster. And it's 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: not just any toaster. It's a special show. We can 50 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: get into all this a little later, I think, but 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: in general, it's a it's a a trivia competition. West 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: was the champ. Greg stole from him in an upset 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: a few months back in a big trivia showdown, and 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: now this is Gregg's first chance to defend is trivia 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: title against some listeners who have contacted at Producer TV. 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: A little a little curious though, that Chris Wesley, who 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: has known me now for what six seven years, knows 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: what I know what I don't know, was somehow allowed 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: to come up with the questions. Well know, no more 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: curious than the fact that the titlist you is someone 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: who not so secretly wants to deep six the segment 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: and has a chance to end this thing just by 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: getting a few questions wrong. And I'll and I'll just 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: add tangibly related, does anybody ever really know anyone? That's 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: a very fair point. All right, So we're gonna get 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: to do Carol King is it a King? Anyway, We'll 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: get to uh, we'll get to win Greg's toaster at 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the end of the show, So make sure you listen 69 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: all the way through before that, and no fast forwarding, 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: no cheating. I don't know if there's a high end 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: of the listenership that would say I can't even wait, 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: I need to get to the trivia toaster game, but 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: you probably if you want to do that, probably fast 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: forward about thirty minutes and then cycle back and go 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: through the news, which we're gonna do and also our 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night preview of the Cleveland Bengals game. So let's 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: start with the news. And to to do the news, 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: the first thing you've got to do is check in 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: with the great man behind the glass. He is tight. 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? And Dave's Dan? Sorry, you know 81 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: you have wasted no time to sink to a new level. 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: Now to answer your existensive question, though. I think everybody 83 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: knows somebody and know somebody to know somebody, right, that's 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the way to do it. The head hurts but a 85 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: little thereabouts. But fun show today, guys. I'm looking forward 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. And by the way, behind you behind 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: the glass is the great Corey Corey Van, who has 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: done an amazing job on our videos NFL now videos 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: for the past few months. The guy is he It's 90 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: almost like when you watch these videos when we're talking 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: about things, he cuts to them before the first syllable 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: of whatever player we're referencing is out of our mouth, 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: which means that he cares about what he's doing. It's 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: very evidence. It's great you can you can catch these 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: videos at the top of a lot of our articles 96 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And you're also going to be able to 97 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: find him on NFL Now soon with the around the 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: NFL folder on NFL now coming to a platform near you. 99 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Let me just cycle away from Greg's plug, don't and 100 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: go back to Corey and just say Corey, thank you 101 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: for all that you've done. Alright, alright, so now let's 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: do some news. When you play the Game of Thrones, 103 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: you win, you die. One thing, obviously, definitely got to 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: mention was that this game is also to the death. 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: You know it is. I remember before the last season 106 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: of Game and Throne Game of Thrones, they have billboards 107 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: all across l A that said, all men die. It 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: seems a little bleak on some level, you know, to 109 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: get back to what we're talking about. Does anybody know anybody? 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Are we all gonna die? No? And yes? Or the 111 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: answers does our producer know the name of our host? Probably? 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's start. All right, let's start with some 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: quarterback heat and some benchings in the NFL. Will start 114 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: in Houston, where Bill O'Brien has decided that Ryan Mallett 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: is going to be his next starting quarterback. Ryan Fitzpatrick 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: is not able to hold onto the job for the 117 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: four and five Texans Uh. Mallet of course acquired for 118 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: almost nothing from the Patriots right uh at the end 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: of the summer, and now he steps into his starting 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: role to try to I guess jump starting offense that 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: under Fitzpatrick, even with Aaron Foster having a ner career season, 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: was unable to make things happen. It's a concession that 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: at four and five they're out of the A f 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: c the a f C wild Card picture with so 125 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: many teams at five and three or six and three, 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and what and what was Bill O'Brien expecting when he 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: signed up for Ryan Fitzpatrick gonna goes? I think Fitzpatrick's 128 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: given us exactly a little better than what maybe maybe 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: a little bit better, but it n he's going to be. 130 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: I think he expected him at the time they signed 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: him to be a backup. I don't think they expected 132 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: they were going to draft some We're gonna draft someone 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: and that didn't work out, or they decided that it 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: wasn't worth the top pick, and you know, they ended 135 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: up taking some mysterious corporeal entity Tom Savage in the 136 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: fourth round. He can't really play him, so why not. 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's them giving up though. I mean, 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: it's just them recognizing Fitzpatrick hasn't played well lately. The 139 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: last two games, he's really struggled. Well, I think, yeah, 140 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: to me, this is this makes my life better. I 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: don't have to watch Ryan Fitzpatrick on Game Rewind every week, 142 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: which improves things immeasurably. But why do we think Mallett 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: will be any better? I I advocated that the Titans 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: should be going with Locker instead of Mettenburger, But I 145 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: think this situation is different. Mettenburger isn't ready in my opinion, 146 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: to be an NFL starter, and the Titans have three 147 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: years to figure out if he can be ready. At 148 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: some point, the Texans have to make a decision on 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: mau at this offseason because he's gonna He's going to 150 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: be a free agent, So why not give yourselves seven 151 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: eight games to figure out what he can do? Because 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: he's only had nine NFL passes and I can't think 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: of a quarterback that has more intrigues surrounding him for 154 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: less of a good reason than Ryan Mall. Well, he's 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: never impressed in the preseason. That's the thing. If you 156 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: watch it in the preseason, he looked like a guy 157 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: who was not comfortable in the pocket when pressure was 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: around him. He was not particularly accurate. He was often 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: out of sync with the Patriots are like he He 160 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: played significantly worse than Brian Hoyer used to during his 161 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: chances in the preseason, or than Jimmy Garoppolo did uh 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: this preseason. Well, I think the guys that we respect, 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: Mike Mayock has said, this guy is an NFL starting quarterback. 164 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy, the Bucks All Pro defensive tackle, came on 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: the Dave Damasik program last February and said, this guy's special. 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: I've squared off against him in practice a number of 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: times and McCoy couldn't have raved anymore about him. And 168 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: you can't call him dumb, he says today. My football 169 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: i Q is a lot higher than people think it is. 170 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: If you think I'm a dumb player, fine, my advantage there. 171 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm just happy for Andre Johnson, who sounded like a 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: guy who's just about to go into Sessler's wilderness. After 173 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: before he left for his bye week, they asked what 174 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: he was gonna do. He was very down, very a 175 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: lot of answers where it was clear that maybe he 176 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: was about to give up on any hopes of ever 177 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: being a relevant player on a team again. He said, 178 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: I just need to go to an island or something, 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: in reference to his bye week plans. So maybe Ryan 180 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: Mallett changes things a little bit. Rap Sheet said a 181 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: j big Ryan Mallett fan, that big arm. Well, we'll 182 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: see when Colin Dales fourteen passes over his head and 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: unbelievably over raging. I really am looking forward to the 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: post lost Ryan Mallett press conferences. I think he might 185 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: have be a little looser with the media than any 186 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: other starting quarterback. That will end well, another benching. This 187 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: time it is Mike Glennon, the NFL's greatest dancer, is 188 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: no longer going to be a starter. Josh McCown has 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: taking the job back. Uh, this was the decision that 190 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: was made after Glennon. I guess was he announced himself 191 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: actually on his radio show, Mike Glennon Radio Show. How 192 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: about that? That must be metrics, you know on air 193 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: metrics Tornado. So McCown, who just a little history, was 194 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: signed to a pretty nice contract before the season started, 195 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: got hurt and then maybe it looked like they were 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna go with Glennon, but Glennon wasn't able to hold 197 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: on to the job. Some account back in the Big chair. 198 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: This bizarrely had a lot of people on defending, had 199 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people on Twitter who never watched Mike 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Glennon play defending Mike Glennon. There are a lot of 201 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Mike Glennon fans out there, and I don't believe you 202 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: can be a Mike Glennon fan if you've been watching 203 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: him play. I disagree, I defend him. I'm I don't 204 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: know if I'm a fan, Uh, but I can see 205 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: why people would be upset about this. First of all, 206 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: you just look at the numbers ten touchdown, six interception, 207 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: seven yards per with that offense around him. Uh, that's 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: brutal right, but it's a vertical offense. He's he had 209 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot of good moments this season. Even in that 210 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Brown's game where he had two awful interceptions in the 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: first half, he played pretty well in the second half. 212 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I can see why you like him better 213 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: than Josh McCown. Is there and this brings mccoun back 214 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: into the mix, which is which isn't an answer for 215 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: the Bucks either. It's basically, you want to talk about 216 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: a team that's decided they can't win a division. They're 217 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna flip plot between these guys. How many they signed 218 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: him for it too? Yes, So maybe they will think 219 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: he's the answer if he finishes strong here for now, 220 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: That's what I'm guessing. This is a team that was 221 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: the biggest seller at the deadline, a tacit acknowledgment that 222 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the season is over. Yet they're turning back to the veteran. 223 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: That tells me that they don't think Mike Glenn and 224 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: his their quarterback for two One thing though, this is 225 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: an offense that spent all off season with Ted Tedford 226 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: keeping raps on whatever the scheme was supposed to be. 227 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: He's completely out of the mix. They've handed it over 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: to what Marcus Arroyo right, and so from the beginning, 229 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: this isn't a well organized game. They don't have a 230 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: week to week real mind behind this scheme. Well, I 231 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: think I think the coordinator is a big part of 232 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: the problem there. It's a totally inexperienced team without an 233 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: offensive corder. I mean, if you look back at the game, friends, 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it was second and one late in the game, Bucks 235 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: driving to try to win it. The Browns just let 236 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: they basically made the decision Tampa, you can take the 237 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: first down if you want. We're only gonna put three 238 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: or four guys on the line of scrimmage. Everyone else 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: back and they refused to run three straight passes by 240 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: glennon game over. I mean, it was one of the 241 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: worst jobs of coaching I saw a year. I mean, 242 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the bright spot is McCown. I think he can do 243 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: good work with Evans who at this point is up 244 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: to speed, looks like a gray wide receiver and if 245 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Vincent Jackson can keep it going on the other side 246 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: you I mean, that's what worked for him in Chicago 247 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: last year. But it's not the same situation. I'm not 248 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: giving up on account. I know you guys have had 249 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: a good laugh at my expect is just about to say. 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Let me say this has been a good week for 251 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: West because his Steelers all of a sudden look like 252 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: they a team that we could get behind. And now 253 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: he's got his old number twenty five and are making 254 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: the lead count town. Josh McCown gets another shot to 255 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: redeem himself. Chris Wesley, what do you get two games? 256 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: Two games before everyone turned on him, and he had 257 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: two of the ugliest intercept as anybody's ever seen, which 258 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: make highlight reels and get into the public consciousness instead 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: of watching the whole game. I think Jess Becud a 260 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: much better quarterback to Mike Lennon Marcus Lattimore. It is 261 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: over for the San Francisco UH forty Niners running back. 262 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: Of course, he was trying to come back from those 263 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: terrible knee injuries at South Carolina. It's not gonna happen. 264 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: He announced on Wednesday that he will retire. The Niners 265 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: announced on announced it on his behalf and then he 266 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: came out said, after prayer and careful consideration, I've decided 267 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: time to end my professional football career. Rap Sheet reported 268 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: earlier in the week that after he returned to practice, 269 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: and this was part of basically a two year comeback attempt, 270 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: he had some soreness in the surgically repaired knees and legs, 271 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: and I guess it was decided that he just is 272 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: never gonna be able to get back to the guy 273 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: he was before he wrecked his knees. You know, before 274 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: it was last show that we talked about how so 275 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: many players in this era seemed to come back from 276 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: knee injuries without really much trouble, much faster than the 277 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: average person, and then they suddenly thrive and have these 278 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: great seasons. Well, here's the other side of coin that 279 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: that's just not always well, he was a little different 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: though a lot. I mean, that was you could argue, 281 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: and this is not a fun argument to have, but 282 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: the worst, most gruesome knee injuries in the history of 283 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: professional sports, that was right up there. What happened in 284 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: South Carola. It's not a knock on him. It's just 285 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: it's not always a home run to come back from these. 286 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: He worked. If you would have told someone two years 287 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: ago when that injury happened, oh he's gonna try to 288 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: make a comeback, and it's never gonna happen. They're gonna 289 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: be like obviously, I saw it happened on the field 290 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: that day. So credit to him because he made every effort, 291 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: and credit to the Niners as well, who who drafted 292 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: him in the fourth round. I guess from a personnel standpoint, 293 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: it was a failure, but uh, you know, they gave 294 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: him the opportunity. They even paid him money that they 295 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: didn't didn't necessarily owe him too. So I guess he 296 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: gets about eight hundred grand out of this whole thing 297 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: to move forward with his life. But kind of a 298 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: sad story because when he was seventeen or whatever, before 299 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: he heard his knees, he was thought of as the 300 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: best prospect in the nation. Yeah, we've heard a lot 301 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: of best prospects since Adrian Peterson. This guy is a 302 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: freshman at South Carolina. Was was really that guy. I 303 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: thought he was the best prospect in ten years and 304 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: then shredded his knee twice in gruesome fashion, and he 305 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: was a little reflective in his statement today, said he 306 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: was sincerely disappointed about having to give up his career. Yeah, yeah, 307 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a it's a shame. It's he's 308 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: going back to school, you know. Rap Sheet mentioned the 309 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: financial part of it, which is that he did have 310 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: an insurance policy on it, which is you know, you're 311 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: happy for But it's more just a reminder. All these 312 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: players are always kind of one play away and it 313 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: doesn't happen as much anymore, it seems, but this is 314 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: a big time one that that it did. Nick Foles, 315 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: we know, is not going to be playing for the 316 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: next couple of months with that fractured collar bone. But 317 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: there is a report out there that folds Is future 318 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia is in doubt, uh, citing people with knowledge 319 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: of the Eagles plans, and J dot COM's Mark Eckle 320 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: reported that, uh, folds The future was already in doubt 321 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: before that injury, and this was a quote from a 322 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: league source to end J dot com. I think Howie Roseman, 323 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: their general manager, is looking at quarterbacks. He's kind of 324 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: soured on Folds and I don't think he's alone. The 325 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: organization isn't sold that he's the guy going forward. Is 326 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: it possible Mark Sanchez, who was at the bottom of 327 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: the pile in the NFL at the bottom of the heat, 328 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: is six weeks away away if he plays well to 329 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: potentially being the starting quarterback of a Chip Kelly offense 330 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: for the Eagles going forward, Well why not? Because on 331 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: this show we've already anointed Ryan Mallett and Josh mccounts, 332 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: So why not Mark Sanchez while we're at it for 333 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: the hat trick? What have we anointed? I'm just saying, 334 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, these are quarterbacks that let's give them a 335 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: little more time on the field, and I think we 336 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: will say as much as anybody said Differently, I'm rooting 337 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: for Mark Sanchez as a Jets fan because I feel 338 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: bad the way if things ended, even though he earned 339 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: his ticket out of town also based on his play. 340 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: But I'm also a little apprehensive. There's a lot of 341 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: stuff out there this week that Sanchez is now all 342 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden going to click into this offense and 343 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a huge career revitalization. There was a 344 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: lot of bad football on tape with the Jets, and 345 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media today. We did a post 346 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: on it, and he said, uh, you know, I'm a 347 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: better version of me now, and he cited an example 348 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: of J. J. Watt screaming at him in a game 349 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday where instead of trying to make a play 350 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: happen and force a throw, he dropped to the ground 351 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: and he said, that's an example of me maybe growing 352 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: up a little bit as a quarterback. I wish the 353 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: best of luck to him, but I would just say 354 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: I would caution people that dropped eighty dollars on an 355 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: auction league in fantasy to get Mark Sanchez or people 356 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: who think that Fols is going to be inferior to Sanchez. 357 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of football will be played here. Yeah, 358 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: I think this report is much more about fools, and 359 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: it's fascinating but not surprising than the least. Right and 360 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: watching watching fulls this year, I don't see how that 361 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: team would have It would have been much more surprising 362 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: to me if they went into the offseason thinking we're 363 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: not getting competition for falls, that we're not going to 364 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: either bring in a veteran or draft a quarterback, more 365 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: likely draft a quarterback to try to develop in Kelly system, 366 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: and Sanchez kind of gets the chance if he plays 367 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: really well to step ahead of Foals and hey, I'm 368 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the guy that does. That's okay for now. Sweepstakes and 369 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: in a perfect system to have that kind of an audition. 370 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I look back when Philadelphia on Draft Day, 371 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: sitting at number twenty two, because they were at that 372 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: point enamored with Foals to to such a degree, traded 373 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: away that pick to Cleveland to take Manzel, who I 374 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: think would have been a good fit in this offense. 375 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting that, uh, even Ray Farmer was asked this 376 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: week if anyone called about a trade for Manzel, and 377 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: he hedged. He wouldn't say, but he just said, it's 378 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: interesting what you reporters here, and you can look at 379 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: it in a different way. This actually helps the Eagles. 380 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: If Foals plays out the rest of the year and 381 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: builds all these great county numbers and chip Kelly system, 382 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: He's entering a contract year in two thousand fifteen. It 383 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: would be hard to bench him, and it would also 384 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: be hard to go against public opinion and reject a 385 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: huge contract. How about the confidence though in Santez to 386 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: go out there through a bomb first play, there's a 387 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: beautiful touch pass for touchdown later. He had a few 388 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: misfires in the game, but overall took a lot of checkdowns, 389 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: kind of let the system do the work for us. 390 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: He had a nice first game, had a running first 391 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: down that there's no way folds. What if I think 392 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: they'll they'll use him on the run a little more. 393 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: I think we'll do. We could argue he is getting 394 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: his first fine offensive coaching of his career. Not even 395 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: on argument unless you're a shot him, our guy, shot guy. 396 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we'll see what happens. So I mean he 397 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: landed in a good spot. All right, gentlemen, Let's move 398 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: on to Thursday night football. The Thursday night football matchup 399 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: is between the Cleveland Browns and Cincinnati Bengals. Uh mark 400 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: a big game for the Browns who come out of 401 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: that soft stretch of the schedule. They did a nice 402 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: job getting to five and three, but now here's a 403 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: real challenge on the road with the a f C. North. 404 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: The sopack tight. You don't want to fall behind and 405 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: fall closer to five hundred. Mark. I'll start with you, 406 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: as the Brownson. How where do you how confident are 407 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: you in the Browns showing up and being competitive this game? 408 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: I guess the Bengals team that hasn't been playing that great, Yeah, 409 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: but they are still the Bengals are still one of 410 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: the toughest teams to beat at home. And there's a 411 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: we downstairs. They came by and asked who you're picking, 412 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: and we all picked Cincinnati. Why switch my pick to Cleveland? 413 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, But that is not that's that's just 414 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: based on more hope than it is raw facts and 415 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, computer analysis, because it just doesn't match up 416 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: well for Cleveland. Because I think you will see what 417 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill did last week. I think they might have 418 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: a better lead back in Jeremy Hill than in Giovanni. 419 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't make the case they're better off 420 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: with Giovanni Bernard out for this game. He's doubt, but 421 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: I think that they have found maybe a role that 422 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: fits Hill better than He looks fine when I watched him. 423 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a great system for back to be in. 424 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: They have a good offensive line. He's a kind of 425 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: a power running back. I don't think we're ever gonna 426 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: be telling our kids about watching Jeremy Hill player or 427 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: the five or six Pro Bowls he goes tonight and 428 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: all my kids about Jeremy, make sure you cut that 429 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: quote by Rosenthal, will play it at Jeremy Hills Hall 430 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: of Fame and Duncheon. I mean they are playing. Here's 431 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: the thing, no matter who you put back there, you 432 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: can put Dan and West back there and you're paying. 433 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys would be fine. I'm just saying 434 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: you guys had the look at NFL, NFL type running 435 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: backs like they're playing, the Matt Asiata really would be 436 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: we would be the Matta Seattle weeks without three touchdowns. 437 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: All right, here's what here's the X factor to me. 438 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: A J. Green, who played about fifty percent of the 439 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: snaps last week in his return. You know they're gonna 440 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: bump that up. And I've been high, and I know 441 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: we all are on Mohammed Sanu what he's been doing 442 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. With Green out, Now you're gonna 443 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: have a healthy A J. Green the new I know 444 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is not a popular figure around here, but 445 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: I think that they're going to be able to move 446 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: the ball against the Browns defense. That doesn't really scare anymore. 447 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: I think that's very fair. What Dad can never mention 448 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton without saying he's not popular amongst the other 449 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: I have become the defender of Andy Dalton. You don't 450 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: him at all. You just say that we don't like him. 451 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: When he turns on the game and there's like a 452 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: thirty yard pass in the red zone, he loves watching 453 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: passes go out of bounds like that's his that's his 454 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: type of guy. He wants to get behind him. You're right, 455 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: every quarterback looks pretty good against this Browns defense right now. 456 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about them? What the defense? I 457 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: think actually the past defense has gotten a little bit 458 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: tighter in the last couple of weeks, and they are 459 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: generating turnovers. They have eight turnovers in the last three games. 460 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: So if you they don't do anything with that, that's 461 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: the problem. But Andy Dalton has fewer touchdowns and more 462 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: interceptions than Brian Hoyer. He hasn't been tearing it up. 463 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: There a run focused offense. I read marks high octane 464 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: preview for this game. So I know that the Browns 465 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: have a streak here against a f C North opponents 466 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: on the road. How many games seventeen I believe they've 467 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: lost on the road. This is the season, though, Mark, 468 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: we talked about this on Sunday, where if they could 469 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: put together some wins and have a nice season, all 470 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: these awful streaks that they've been building. What was the 471 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: one they broke earlier this season? There was there was 472 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: some hideous haven't had a winning seas the Ben Roethlisberger. 473 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Uh So, maybe if they this is maybe they'd overdue 474 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to break some of these ridiculous, awful streaks. Seventeen straight 475 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: road games lost. And speaking of Mark Cessler's high octane peace, 476 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: uh he references that Andy Dalton has a three and 477 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: oh record or the passer rating of a hundred against 478 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: the Browns at home, and then uh he Mark mentions 479 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty two point eight points higher than Dalton's work. Quote 480 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: by the shores of Lake Erie. Well, because I had 481 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: used the word Cleveland like twelve times there, maybe I 482 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: probably have the people reading have no idea where Lake 483 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Erie is. That's an issue. But who would you rather 484 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: have started game? I'll throw this to the non Browns 485 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: fan who would rather have started a game? Hoyer Dalton 486 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: this week? You know my answer? Because Dalton's my boy? Okay, 487 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: So Alton? Well, yeah, well He's not this major myself 488 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that I like good quarterbacks. It's like it's asking West, 489 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: how would you rather die, drowning or poison. I prefer 490 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks were bad quarterbacks, so I usually tend to 491 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: defend the good one. He Yer is very erratic, he's 492 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: very hard to trust. But Shanahan does seem to dial up, 493 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: and he did last week against Tampa a couple of 494 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: good plays. I'm more concerned that they haven't been able 495 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: to run at all. So to ask Hoyer to carry 496 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: an offense where Taylor Gabriel and Miles Austin are your 497 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: top two receivers Jordan Cameron's out again with no running 498 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: game seems virtually impossible. I mean, that's why I took 499 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: the Bengal even though I don't. I think there are 500 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: two mediocre teams, two teams that will finish close to 501 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: eight and eight both of them. But I'll take the 502 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: bags because of that one puncture wounded by the way 503 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: in your argument that you like to defend good quarterbacks. 504 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: Like a couple of minutes back on the podcast you 505 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: were you were talking about Josh McCown as your boys, 506 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: So well, I'm defending I'm defending him in comparison to 507 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: Mike Glennon, Josh McCown or Andy Dalton. For you, I'm 508 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: going Dalton. You have to factor in the first thirteen 509 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: years of Josh McCown's career or whatever it was, when 510 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: he was on six different teams. I mean, yeah, that's 511 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: the problem with all these things. To me, the most 512 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: recent game film gets the most factory. Yeah, you can't 513 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: ignore the first, all right. So that's that's the game. 514 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: We the three of us have the Bengals. Sessler's going 515 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: with his brownies on Thursday night on an off night 516 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: for Mark who knows where he'll be in an a 517 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: f C North showdown. Alright, guys, they got everything out 518 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: of the way that we had to get out of 519 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: the way because this is this is what it's all 520 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: about right now. This is the return or the debut. 521 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I should say of Oh, I got my hands in 522 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: the air that we do we have any crowd noise 523 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: or anything on the soundboard that we can, like, you know, 524 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: show fake excitement by the masses. That's a request from 525 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: your house. We should explain the toaster what it is, 526 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: all right, So let's get into it a little bit. 527 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: So one day, uh, in the NFL dot com newsroom, 528 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I saw a toaster, a NFL endorsed product, a toaster 529 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: that allowed you to stamp teams in the toaster machine. 530 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: You could put a team's logo onto the piece of toast. 531 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: So I stole that from the person. I don't know 532 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: if it was something. I thought it was maybe just 533 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: a desk that had stuff on it and I grabbed it. 534 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Could have been someone's personal property. I don't know. Let's 535 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: move forward from that. So anyway, once we had the toaster, 536 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: it went towards okay, let's do a trivia game for 537 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: the podcast against Greg's wishes, and we made the toaster 538 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: really the the you know, the holy grail, the holy 539 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: grail of the game. So West, the whole idea was, 540 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: if you lose the toaster, game's over. It's over. It's over. 541 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: And West, because he is the mailman, was he was 542 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: set up as the man that would never be to 543 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: eat it, and for a while he wasn't. West won 544 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: several games over the course of about eighteen months, and 545 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: then in one of the big upsets think Tyson Buster 546 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: Douglas in Tokyo, Rosenthal took him down a few months 547 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: back took the toaster Greg, who is kind of like 548 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: a heel when it comes to the game. He's the 549 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: iron cheek of the game. He wants the toaster game 550 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: to go away. But also I've said Greg keeps on 551 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: teasing that he might throw this game, that we're about 552 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: to have too much pride on Greg's and ego carries 553 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: the day, and that's why the game will survive if 554 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: Greg is up to the task of beating who we 555 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: have in the other one. I'm competitive in a lot 556 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: of things, but I've enjoyed my run. This is greater 557 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: than I ever could have imagined. I've traveled the world 558 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: and on the today, so many women, so much money, 559 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: just buffets of food everywhere I go, rehab stinted promises 560 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: more than I could have asked for, so anything from 561 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: now on. Yeah, so t D now and now we 562 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: throw to TV who is a rookie he year as well, 563 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the gold standard. Our former producer did such a great 564 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: job screening, taking people into his chamber. Uh and now 565 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: TD took over t D. How confident are you and 566 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: the two people that will be taking Greg on today, 567 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I would say about honestly. One of them is a 568 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: known tomato can already been vanquished by me. We will 569 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: get to him. Yes, there, but I thought the guy 570 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: that's coming back, we do have a repeat player. Uh. 571 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: First of all as a Jets fan, so I like him. 572 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: Second of all, he did put up a good battle 573 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: against the West. If I recall, I don't remember anything anymore, 574 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: but possible he did. But in the vernacular of Greg, 575 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: anyone who ever lost it this game as a tomato can, 576 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. There were there was a day 577 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: where you won six oh and six one who was 578 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: stoned in Canada or whatever. But and then Greg, it 579 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: got to the point where you were calling people tomato 580 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: cans and it was a six four so you took 581 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: it a little too far the other way. Then, look 582 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: that's in the place, feed him all that's in one. 583 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: So why don't we get our first caller on the line, 584 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Mr TV, Let's do it good test at number one. 585 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Having already lost, we and West's toaster bernardist back for 586 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: another crack at it. Twenty one year Jet season ticket holder. 587 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: His favorite person on the show, therefore, is, of course 588 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Dan han Zus. He loves the factory of sadness drop 589 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: and if he wins Greg's toaster Niles to return it 590 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: to its rightful owner, Chris Wesley, despite West One's giving 591 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: him bad fantasy advice about Britain. Jackson, Wow, look at 592 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: that t V. First of all, you have not done yourself, sir. Uh, 593 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: extra cookies for you. And Bernard from Brooklyn, welcome back 594 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: to the Round the NFL podcast, Big Dan, what's happening? 595 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: What's up a Bernard? If you'd won the toaster, it 596 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: doesn't give you the powers of God to just do 597 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want with it. Was not going back to 598 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: does can do whatever he feels it's toaster? At that 599 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: point I told you man, I mean I lost to 600 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: west before. But that's mailmen stick together, just like Jets 601 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: fans stick together. You go, That's what I'm talking about. 602 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: That's a couple of winning organizations right there. I cannot 603 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: tell you how hard I'm rooting for the Mailman right now, 604 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: both mail men in general. But Bernard, you know the rules. 605 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna get six questions, Uh, Mark Cecil will do 606 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: the countdown will be sixty second clock. Uh. Then Greg 607 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: will get the same questions, and then if you get more, 608 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: you win. If you get the same amount, the tiebreakers 609 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: the clock who answered them quick more quickly? So those 610 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: are the rules? You all square and ready to go. Dan, 611 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: in the words of the who I won't be fooled 612 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: again emerged victorious. Alright, alright, so alright, a couple of things. 613 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: Greg began. You must go to the sound proof behind 614 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: the glass. Look at the nerves on, Greg, you could 615 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: see it. The lost the color from looks a little pale. Yeah, 616 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: Bernard has come to do battle. And Mark, how are 617 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: you doing the time clock thing? It seems to be 618 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: something that brings you a little bit of concert. Yeah. 619 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think I'm the one in the 620 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: hot seat here, not Greg. Yeah, press starting. We'll see 621 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: how it goes. Right. I believe in you and it's 622 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: one of the career highlights for you, I would think, 623 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: is that you are the official timekeeper of when top 624 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: of the resumes and shifting on your Twitter broke profile. Alright, 625 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: so here we go. When I start the question, uh, 626 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: that's when you start the Clark clock, Mark and Bernard, 627 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: best of luck to you, buddy. Thank you. David who 628 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: is the Pro Bowl cornerback then Panthers white out Steve 629 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Smith was referring to last season When he said ice 630 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: up Son, I believe he was referring to the new 631 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: England cornerback at the time. Gosh uh oh god pass pass? 632 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: Who was the Bengals all Pro nose nose tackle who 633 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: suffered a broken leg in the first core are of 634 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty three against Dan Reno beat the Jets 635 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: with this fake spike play. Who is the receiver who 636 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: caught all four Marino touchdown throws that day? Up the 637 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Titans white out, Kevin Dyson was tackled one yard shive 638 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: the goal line and the last play of Super Bowl 639 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: thirty four, which Rams linebacker tackled it oil three? Who 640 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: leads the league and interceptions this season? Ten Secondsmarty? Name 641 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: the two teams that played in the first Monday night 642 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: football game in nineteen seventy Jet Cleveland Brown. Okay, stop 643 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: the top. You did have a pass, but you weren't 644 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna get to it anyway, all right, So that is 645 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: too correct for Bernard? H two out of six? Those 646 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: were tough questions. They were pretty tough, Bernard, How did 647 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: you feel about Were these a little tougher than the 648 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: last time? Um, I'll tell you what the whole thing is. 649 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: I know a lot about a little and a little 650 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: about a lot, and any time you got to talk 651 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: on you managed. That's true. Just as Dama who when 652 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: we bring him in here, he's played this game a 653 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: couple of times. He takes like sixty seconds to get 654 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: one question out of his mouth, so or one answer 655 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: out of his mouth. So it is not especially with 656 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: the pressure with a big toaster on the line. I 657 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: thought two is a serviceable number. I don't know if 658 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be enough. Let's bring in Greg Rosenthal. I 659 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: thought Damask did a fine job, by the way, and 660 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Bernard is right, this is a Greg is almost a rookie. 661 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: He has one game of Toaster under his belt. The 662 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: time could be a factor with him as well. I 663 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: did see that man shots fired Bunsen Burner blowtarts by 664 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Bernard from Brooklyn. By the way, I saw Greg vomiting 665 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: into a garbage gay behind the glass, so it's there. 666 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: The nerves are to him. But sometimes when you kind 667 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: of get that yak out, you feel a little better, 668 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: and that's all you need can help. So let's go 669 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: six more questions and fire. Who was the Pro Bowl 670 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: cornerback then? Panthers wide out Steve Smith was referring to 671 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: last season when he said, ice up son Um pass. 672 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: Who is the Bengals All Pro nose tackle who suffered 673 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: a broken leg in the first quarter of Super Bowl 674 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: twenty three against the Niners? Pass Dan Reno beat the 675 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: Jets with his fake spike play in who's the receiver 676 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: who caught all four Marino touchdown throws that day? Mark 677 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Clayton Titans white out Kevin Dyson was tackled one yard 678 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: shy of the goal line on the last play of 679 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirty four, Which Rams linebacker tackled it? Mike Smith, 680 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: who leaves the league and interceptions this season? Uh Tayshan 681 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: Gibson Browns. Name the two teams that played in the 682 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: first Monday night football game in n path it stop 683 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: the clock, go back, go back? Who is the Pro 684 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: Bowl cornerback? Then Panthers? Correct? Who was the Bengals All 685 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Pro nose tackle who suffered a broken leg in the 686 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: first quarter of Super Bowl named Kevin Time? I forgot 687 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: his name? What was that guy's name? I guess I'll 688 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: find out. Both got two mm hmm. The time ran 689 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: out on both of them. I believe Bernard had one 690 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: second left, though didn't he know the time is out 691 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: on both, so we're gonna have to go to the 692 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: tiebreaker question. Don't I just win the tie? He had 693 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: many ties, but I always feel we've never needed all 694 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 1: of my minute. Yeah, we've never lost the tiebreaker before. Wow, 695 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: we got a tiebreaker question? How do we even do this? 696 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: Do we time that as well? Maybe you see who 697 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: gets it? Quicker? I think perhaps I asked the question 698 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: and the first all right, Bernard, you on board with this? 699 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: It should have been quicker and gone back to first 700 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 1: person to blurt out the answer is the winner? Wow, 701 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: the drama is out of control right now here we go? 702 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: What was? No? You don't need the music for this? 703 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: Just too much drama for even using. Let's kill the 704 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: music out. DeMarco Murray started to see his with eight 705 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: games of a hundred rushing yards or more? Whose record 706 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: did he break? Bernard is your winner? But Oars got 707 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: the toaster, But ars got the toaster, But Oars got 708 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: the toaster. The giants wear about it? Yeah? Wow, nicely done, Bernards. 709 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: You really were Buster Douglas. Yeah, well I'll tell you what. 710 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Greg? It was you? Still they 711 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: can never take away what Greg did on that that 712 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: special I didn't know. If I didn't, I wasn't even 713 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: thinking about the time, I wouldn't have gone back to that. 714 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 1: You needed to go back then to get the tie. 715 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: You don't know you would have lost because Bernard got 716 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: too I'll go over the answers real quick keep to 717 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: leave was the ice up sun guy. Uh. Tim crum 718 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: Rye was the Bengals all pulling rose tackles stuff for 719 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: the broken leg. You both got this wrong again, Bernard, 720 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: you got a Jets question wrong, but this was kind 721 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: of one you want to block out eventually. The uh 722 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: Mark Ingram was the Dolphins wide receiver that had all 723 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: four touchdown passes in the fake Spike night. I was 724 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: at the game. It was grim. Uh. Kevin Dyson was 725 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: tackled by Mike Jones. Uh. That was the only one night, 726 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: Sean Gibson, Mark, Greg got that one right. That is 727 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: the league leader in interceptions right now, he's two ahead 728 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: of the field. I believe Mark with six and Uh. Yes, 729 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: but I got Tim Clumbrie, Yes you did, and you 730 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: got The Jets and Browns played the first Monday Night 731 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: football game nine. The question nice win? A nice win 732 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: for the Browns in that game over Joe Namath. So, Bernard, 733 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: you are the winner. Did you just fall off your chair? 734 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: You're so excited? Yes, I did get over. And here's 735 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: the good news. They were definitely gonna send something to Bernard, 736 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: but he already said the totals on a West. We're 737 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: setting them to toast there. And when I spoke to 738 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: t D, you know, I've been listening to the show 739 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: and I'm a fan of all you guys in all serious, 740 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: but this game ain't right if it ain't win West Coast. 741 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: So I would like to be queet it back to 742 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: him in exchange for another product. If West would actually 743 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: accept that when he's lost the last time he ever played, 744 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: then by all means, it just shows this game is 745 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: a bigger sham than I ever thought. You are an 746 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: uber mention. What a noble move. But I can't believe 747 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: I said Mike Smith instead of Mike Jones. That was 748 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: the only that's how toasters get lost, all right, But Alard, 749 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: so congratulations, will get your info and we'll we'll make 750 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: sure we get something to you special and nice and 751 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: congratulation Dan, listen, should I jump out of the up 752 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: a death Sunday against Pittsburgh. Just stay alive. I believe 753 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: you would suffer suffer mortal injuries, So do not do that. 754 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: Maybe do something metaphorical but not physical like that got 755 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: you big boy? All right later you're the man, but 756 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: are alright? So, uh you know that is wow? Right? 757 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: Exactly it was. It wasn't exactly a dominant win, but 758 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: sometimes that's all it takes. Uh. I like that you 759 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: were making up the tiebreak rules as it was going 760 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: kind of Monday morning quarterbacks. Will a little bit look 761 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: back and say, as soon as Greg got that second 762 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: a key to leave answer stop the clock, and he 763 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: would of course, of course, yeah, but he didn't he 764 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: he didn't know that. He didn't know the comprehensive rule book. 765 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: And then Greg, that's on you as the champion to 766 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: know the full breadth and sap. And you can't say 767 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: it was unfair the tiebreaker question. It was equal. Both 768 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: had a shot at it, and he just whatever's gonna 769 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: limit anyone's interest in this game, the better, Greg. This 770 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: is not setting well with Greg. Can we send it 771 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: to Billick in mayok for some analysis on the last 772 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: few seconds of that game. The only thing I'm said 773 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: about they never got to contest the number two because 774 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: he had a pretty fun intro too. It's gonna play 775 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: that intro contested number two. Nathan is an employee at 776 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: the College Football Hall of Fame and worked for the 777 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: Buccaneers during training. Last summer as a Packers fan, he 778 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: witnessed Brett Farm's final victory for the franchise, and his 779 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: favorite person on the show is Greg Rosenthal. If he 780 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: went to the jokes Dirk, he plans to make his 781 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: lady breakfast in bed with the team of her choosing. Wow, 782 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: that could have been your best friend, Greg. One lucky lady. Maybe. Uh, 783 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: the next time we play the game, it will be 784 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: He'll he'll be the first stop. I would think that 785 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: would only be fair. He's gonna have a disappointed How 786 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: are we going to do it with um our winner 787 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: and him? Because it's his toast, he can't just he 788 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: bequeathed it to West. It's back to my toast, back 789 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: to West. And Bernard said, it's not really that. It 790 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't say, well, it doesn't make any sense. He's the champion. 791 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: I think West us to be Bernard. It's when Bernard's 792 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: toaster retired on top and as the number one contender, 793 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: the toaster goes to me. How many number one contenders 794 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: there on a losing streak? Well, this was like a 795 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: presidential part in Western pardoned. The toaster is back in 796 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: his control. And by the way, and under these rules, 797 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: West I'm sure would be open to giving anybody takes 798 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: on all challenges, including you, Greg if you wanted. And 799 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: since when is one game a streak? Well that is 800 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: that is Uh. The addition of win Greg's toaster, which 801 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: briefly became when Bernard's toaster, which is now seged quickly 802 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: to back to win West's toaster, feels like Belichick's reign 803 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: with the Jets is head coach? I know my head 804 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: is dizzy. Wow. Well that's it for Wednesday's edition of 805 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast. We'll be back quick turnaround. 806 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Will be doing a show on Thursday night where we 807 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: preview all of the Thursday night games and of course, 808 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: uh we recap the big AFC North showdown between Sessler's 809 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: rounds of the Bengals, so make sure you are on 810 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: board for that. This is Dan Hanson signing off for 811 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: The Sizzler, The Mailman and the Boss and TV who 812 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: did great work today behind the glass, until there's that