1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, we're back once again another week of the 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: lit Kick Extra podcast. 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: We got a mountain of. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Questions here that you have submitted. If you want to 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: submit questions joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com, 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: at Latekickjosh on Twitter. I am, of course, Josh Pate, 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: happy to have you with me this morning, and boy, 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I wish you had brought a heater, because let me 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: lay out for you the current setup. I am, of 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: course in my apartment recording as I normally am. That's 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: not a problem. What is the problem is yours truly 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: left the door to the balcony open last night when I. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Went to sleep. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: I think the temperature got down to about thirty eight 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine in Nashville last night, and that is about 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: what the temperature is in the old apartment right now. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Heat is on, in the words of Glenn Frye, and 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can to warm up the situation. 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: But right now it. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Is me in as many layers of clothes, including a 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven pull over, as I could find. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: But therein lies the second problem. I did laundry last night, 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: and so everything that I could normally wear is in 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: the washing machine. Soaking wet, and it's just now gone 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: in the dryer. So it's just you and me and 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: maybe that sound occasionally some chattering teeth, but nevertheless, we 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: persevere as only we could do here, and I bring 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: you the Late Kick Extra podcast, Come Rain or Shine, 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: as my unspoken contract with you calls for me to do. 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of questions, as I said, 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to get to this morning. Remember we are doing Late 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Kick Live tonight. It's Prediction Night. Now that's Tuesday. Remember 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: last Tuesday we didn't do predictions because we had all 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: sorts of games postponed. As I'm recording this morning, we 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: only have a smattering of games postponed. And you guys 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: know how rarely I use the word smattering. So the 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: plan is Tuesday is normal around here. Will adjust as 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the situation warrants. Sunday Night was pretty incredible. Sunday Night 39 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: was not incredible for Will must Champ, but it was 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: incredible in it. A lot of the stories and news 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: it was breaking Sunday Night thirty forty five minutes tops 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: before we went on air, so we had a really 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: jam packed show on what they called a light weekend. 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: So it just goes to show. 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the twenty four to seven sports YouTube channel, 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: catch us on Late Kick Live. When we're on there, 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: you never know what's going to be talked about. You 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. Also, to answer a 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: couple of your emails that really don't pertain to college 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: football so much. I have extended the zoom sessions that 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing with some of you guys because we keep 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: having folks sign up, and so I'm not going to 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: stop when people are signing up. I did not intend 54 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: to go this long, but I'm going to keep going 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: as long as you guys are signing up. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: What we're doing. 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Is anyone interested in getting there, maybe toe wet or 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: just diving into the world of sports media, if you 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: want to maybe look into starting a YouTube channel, if 60 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: you're looking to start a podcast, if you want to 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: go down some of these roads, whether it be traditional 62 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: or alternative sports media or new age. I guess is 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: a better way to describe at sports media. And you 64 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know how, or maybe you want some advice, 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: You want a glimpse maybe inside the industry how that works. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: What would be the best approach? Email me set up 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: a zoom session with me Josh pat seven zero six 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com at late Kickjosh on Twitter. And 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: you may ask, what in the world are you doing 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: that for? Well, that's exactly what someone did for me 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: once upon a time. The only way and I mean 72 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the only way outside of general blessings from God to 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: begin with that I ever had a chance of making 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: it anywhere, and we'll continue to ever have a chance 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: of making it anywhere. 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: Is folks helping me out. 77 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: So why would you not do that for someone else? 78 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: And also, I know how that feels. I know how 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: it feels. Maybe if you're not sitting there with a 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: journalism degree from Northwestern and you're twenty two years old 81 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: when the entire world in front of you and everything 82 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: laid out, Hey, by all means, if you're in that position, 83 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: we'll all stop and slow clap for you, and then 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: we'll look around and realize, oh, ninety nine point nine 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: percent of us aren't in that position. And so if 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: you find yourself in that crew and you're looking for 87 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: some guidance, maybe hit me up Josh paid seven zero 88 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: six at gmail dot com or at late kick Josh 89 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter. And by the way, those are the same 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: methods with which you can use to submit a question 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: for this podcast. As we get started this morning, and 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: as we get started this morning, here's our first question. 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Stephen said, I heard you talk a lot about the 94 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: Will musk Champ firing on Sunday Night show, but I 95 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: never really caught whether you agreed with it or not. 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: So do you agree with it? And where does South 97 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Carolina go from here? Steven speaking for many of you, 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: because many of you reached out with who do you 99 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: think South Carolina is going to hire? Some of you 100 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: even asked do you think it was the right move 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: with Will mush Champ because you've heard me talk about 102 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: when it's the right time to fire a coach before. 103 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: So here are my feelings. My feelings are yes, I 104 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: think the move was warranted. The reason I think the 105 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: move was warranted is, as I detailed Sunday Night, I 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: don't think it was a knee jerk reaction. That's the 107 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: very important point. I am never going to be a 108 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: proponent of knee jerk reaction firings period football or otherwise, 109 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: but especially in college football and double especially this year, 110 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: only because as we have talked about on this podcast 111 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: and on Late Cake live. I'm not a big proponent 112 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: of putting maximum weight on this season, meaning I'm not 113 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: a proponent of valuing this year and applying the same 114 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: standards to this year that you would to a normal year. 115 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: And so I say all that to basically say, if 116 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: you had not already arrived at the conclusion, or at 117 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: least been right on the precipice of the conclusion that 118 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: a move was going to be imminent before this season 119 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: ever started, like they apparently were with much champ at Carolina, 120 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: then I'm not a big fan of arriving at that conclusion. Now, 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: an example, perfect example is James Franklin at Penn State. 122 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: That guy's zero to four at a program that was 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: thought by some to be a top fifteen, top fifteen 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: caliber team at the beginning of this year. Well, now 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I look in the inbox every day. Maybe I'll pick 126 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: one out in a second and answer it. People are 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: asking hot seat questions about James Franklin, and I'm not 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: going there. I'm not going When I told you I 129 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: don't care if he doesn't win a game, I mean, 130 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't care if he doesn't win a game this year. 131 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: I am not allowing to put that kind of weight 132 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: behind I'm not personally, So back to mush Champ must Champ. 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to have. 134 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: Been on the inside of anything or behind the scenes 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: anywhere to have heard the rumors and the whispers before 136 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: this year. And apparently enough people behind the scenes there 137 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of power were there before this year 138 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: to where they looked around and they had some decisiveness, 139 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: which you just have to have. The worst thing in 140 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: the world would have been kicking the can down the 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: road till the end of the year and not firing. 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: The first shot. 143 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Here, no pun intended, So they fire the first shot 144 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: by firing Will must Champ, and now they put themselves 145 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: in a market that's never existed before and will never 146 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: exist hopefully fingers crossed after this, and they hop right 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: to the front of the queue that they're normally not 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: in the front of, and they're never in a position 149 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: to be in the front of. And maybe they end 150 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: up with a candidate they normally wouldn't be able to 151 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: end up with. 152 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: But yes, I think the. 153 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: Situation warranted Will Muschamp being fired. Now he'll be okay, 154 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna talk about him in a second, because 155 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: I got a side question about must Champ, and it 156 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: extends well beyond will must Champ something that aggravates me 157 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to no end. 158 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: So we'll bookmark that. 159 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: We'll come back to that. But as for South Carolina, 160 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: where are they going to go? Well, I'm looking at 161 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty four seven sports dot Com earlier this morning and 162 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: I see out of the corner of my eye, odds 163 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: have been released on who the next head coach at 164 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina will be. I think the two betting favorites 165 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: here make a lot of sense, as betting favorites normally do. 166 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Billy Napier, current head coach at Louisiana, is a plus 167 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: two to fifty favorite, and then right behind him, Hugh 168 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Freeze at Liberty is plus three hundred. So there's some 169 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: other names here, you know, Jeff Mounkin at plus five hundred, 170 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: Jamie Chadwell Coastal Carolina. Some of you don't even know 171 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: what those odds mean. Don't worry about it. Here's what 172 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: I think about this. I think that Napier and Freeze 173 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: are the two at the forefront every conversation I've had, 174 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: they've been at the forefront. There are obvious concerns with 175 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze and there are obvious concerns. Really, listen, you're 176 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: going to have an inherent amount of risk to varying 177 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: degree with anyone you hire. If it were that easy 178 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: to hire someone, everyone would knock it out of the park. 179 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: So that's my one too right now. Napier and Freeze, 180 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and in either order those would be my one two. 181 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: I could make a strong case for both of them. 182 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: What I love about Hugh Freeze is that he checks 183 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: the uh oh box that I talked about Sunday night. 184 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: The uh oh box is kind of like what ole 185 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Miss achieved when they hired Lane Kiffin. When ole Miss 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: hired Lane Kiffin, I didn't hear anyone predict a national 187 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: championship for ole Miss. I didn't hear anyone predict an 188 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: SEC Western Division title for ole Miss. 189 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Didn't hear that. But here's what I did hear a 190 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: lot of I heard a. 191 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Lot of uh oh coming from Tuscaloosa and College Station 192 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: and Starkville and Auburn and Baton, Rougenville. 193 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Everywhere in the SEC West. 194 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Because what they knew is, hey, they may lose three 195 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: or four games a year. That may happen. However, we're 196 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to play Lane Kiffen. Every year we're gonna 197 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: have to deal with that offense. Every year has already 198 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: found out about it. Bama's already found out about it. 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of the devil, Muschamp found out to 200 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: the degree where he got fired because of it. I 201 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: think that final was fifty nine to forty two. So 202 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: here's the point. 203 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: How do you get Kirby smart, How do you get 204 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Jeremy Prutt? How do you get Dan. 205 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Mullen to say, uh, oh, well, hiring Hugh Freeze would 206 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: check that box. I can promise you that is the baggage. 207 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: There are the questions there. Yes, to be honest with you, 208 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: I think the baggage may be a little bit overblown 209 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: as it relates to the future, as it relates to 210 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: how he would handle your job in the future. In 211 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: the past, it's not overblown. It's every bit the blotch 212 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: on a resume that those things should be. How is 213 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: it going to impact the future? I think that may 214 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: be a little bit overblown. As for Napier, what I 215 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: love about him is he checks another box. Maybe he 216 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily check the oh box. Maybe they're not immediately 217 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: as worried about him as they would be with Freeze. 218 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: But here's what he can do. Here's what Billy Napier 219 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: can do. 220 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Everybody in the coaching world will tell you, everyone in 221 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the scout world, the recruiting world will tell you he's 222 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: one of the most supreme evaluators of talent that there 223 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: are rising in the game today. Everybody knows about someone 224 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: like Nick Saban's ability, but Saban's been around forever. Billy 225 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: Napier is a guy who's been under Saban. But also, 226 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Billy Napier is not a guy who, at the very 227 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: head of his resume has hey, I coached. 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: With Nick Saban. 229 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, Jeremy Pruitt is known for having coached with 230 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Jim McElwain was known for having coached with 231 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Kirby Smart was known for that. Billy Napier, 232 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: it just so happens he did coach with Nick Saban. 233 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: But that's not what he's known for. He's known for 234 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: being an evaluator. Take you back to Week one. They 235 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: go up to ames Iowa and they play my Iowa 236 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: State cyclones. 237 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: And made him look foolish. 238 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Really, and it wasn't so much that they made him 239 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: look foolish and that they you know, Charlie browned them 240 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: all day and pulled the ball away from him and 241 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, ran circles around him that way. It was 242 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: that they looked like the better team, Their roster looked better, 243 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: they looked like they had better players, and that just 244 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: didn't compute because that's G five and that's P five, 245 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: and that's a G five. That's not UCF or Memphis 246 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: or Houston, one of the usual suspects. 247 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: It was Louisiana. And while they got a nice. 248 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Solid program down there, you don't ever equate them with 249 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: having a better roster than an Iowa State team that 250 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: folks had ranked to start the season. Maybe they could 251 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: be an outside contender in the Big twelve, and yet 252 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: there's Louisiana. And as I said at the beginning of 253 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: the year, if you switch the jerseys, you wouldn't know 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: the difference. You wouldn't know which one's the power five, 255 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: which one's the G five. Billy Napier, Billy Napier is 256 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: a big reason why, guys. He is a very good 257 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: evaluator of talent, and once they get it on campus, 258 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: obviously he can develop it too. Finding talent, that's the key. 259 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: So now, how does that translate, Well, we're not looking 260 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: at a job at Alabama here, We're not looking at 261 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: a job at Florida. You're looking at a job at 262 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: a second tier recruiting school at South Carolina. South Carolina 263 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: does not get their pick of the litter necessarily, and 264 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: South Carolina would have a long way to go before 265 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: they were able to do that. So in the meantime, 266 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: what do you have to be able to do? You 267 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: have to be able to find your talent, and you 268 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: have to be able to hit home runs on evaluations 269 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: and stop counting on going head to head with Georgia 270 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: for kids, or head to head with Alabama. If you'll 271 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: win some of those, that's great. I'm not saying back away. 272 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, defer all the major kids to the 273 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: big programs and let's go try and find projects all 274 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: over the place. But you are sometimes going to have 275 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: to find quality, high caliber, high ceiling three and low 276 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: four star type kids that maybe aren't at the forefront 277 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: of Georgia's radar Florida's radar, and then go beat Georgia 278 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: with those kids, Go beat Florida with those kids, and 279 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: find a way to do it. Consistently, that's not what 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: South Carolina has done before. That's not them, that's not 281 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the track record, that's not the history of that program, 282 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: which kind of brings me to my next point. I 283 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: think a lot of folks always base their expectation on 284 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the future of a program based on the history of 285 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: a program, and that's understandable because that's most of the 286 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: time how it happens. It's kind of like in March Madness. 287 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, if you are trying to win your bracket contest, Historically, 288 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: you're much more likely to succeed in your bracket contest 289 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: if you just pick a majority of favorites and stop 290 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: trying to find where the fifteen over two is going 291 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: to happen, or stop trying to be the one who 292 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: predicts and it finally happened, but be the one to 293 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: predict the sixteen over the one. Yeah, maybe it'll eventually happen, 294 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: but there's no skill in predicting that. So there's never 295 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: any skill in predicting which coach is going to be 296 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: the one who takes a C tier program to the 297 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: B tier or a Tier two program to the Tier one. 298 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Like Dabo Swinny with Clemson, there was no skill in 299 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: looking and saying all right, Clemson has no history of 300 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: being elite, of being one of the true powerhouses in 301 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: college football. But we think Dabo's swiney of all guys, 302 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: of all people, that's going to be the guy who 303 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: changes the entire history in some cases, of the sport 304 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: because he's going to inject a new powerhouse into the sport. 305 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Clemson is now going to be a power house. Well, 306 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: no one saw that coming, but it happened at Carolina. 307 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: No one could ever see that coming. But it's not impossible. 308 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: It's just very unlikely. It's not impossible that Carolina could 309 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: hire the right guy to put them in a situation 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: where they elevate within five or six years to being 311 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: a true contender in the SEC championship race year in 312 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: and year out. It would just take things happening that 313 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: have never happened before. 314 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: That's all. That's how simple it is. 315 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: You just got to do something that's never been done before. 316 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: But I will say this, I use this quote with 317 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: Clemson all the time. You can't have history until you 318 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: make history. Clemson didn't have a history of national championships. 319 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Well now they do because they made history. You got 320 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: to do something historic. That's true, you have to be 321 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: an outlier. But if you find your outlier, doesn't matter 322 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: what kind of history you lack, they'll just make history. 323 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: They'll be the ones who make the history. That's the 324 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: entire point. Florida state not much history before Bobby Bowden 325 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: got there. 326 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: Well now they got a ton of history. No, Miami, 327 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: once upon a time not a. 328 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: Ton of history. Well now they got a lot of it. 329 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: It's just you never have it until you have it. 330 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: And so some people believe, oh, but that's yesteryear. The 331 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: landscape of the sport now is such that. 332 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, no it's not. No, it's not. 333 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: The landscape of the sport has always been unique unto 334 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: that era. 335 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: You could break through today. You can do that. 336 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: You can redefine a program today. You just can't do 337 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: it overnight. That's what's not going to happen. But before 338 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I move on, there's another name out there. Shane Beemer 339 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: is another name. I don't even see him on the 340 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: odds list here necessarily maybe he is and is just 341 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: not listed. But Shane Beemer is a guy who's out 342 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma right now as an assistant coach. But he's 343 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: a guy who's been at Carolina before, He's been around 344 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: the program, understands the state. 345 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: But let me tell you what he is. 346 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's on the record as having 347 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: said it before, but I know he said it before. 348 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: He said South Carolina would be his dream job, kind 349 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: of like Sam Pittman is saying these days, Arkansas was 350 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: always my dream job. I believe Sam Pittman when he 351 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: says that. I have no reason not to believe Shane 352 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Beemer when he says that he's got ties there. So 353 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: think about this for a second. Think along with me. 354 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Does that matter to you? Would it matter if a 355 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: coach's idea of your program is that's his dream job. 356 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: A lot of times guys say it, but it's not true. 357 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: They're just looking to use your program as a stepping stone. Now, 358 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: if we're being real with ourselves, there are a lot 359 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: of coaches, especially up and comers, who may view the 360 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: South Carolina job as a stepping stone. Now, it's not 361 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: a stepping stone to get to many other places. There 362 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: are only a few programs you're gonna leave South Carolina 363 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: four as a definitive upgrade, But those programs are out there. 364 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: So what happens if we may find a. 365 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Guy who refers to our program at South Carolina as 366 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: not a stepping stone, but internally he views it as 367 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: a destination. 368 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Because there aren't a lot of. 369 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: Folks out there they're going to view South Carolina football 370 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: as their final destination on the coaching ladder. What formula 371 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: potentially could you have there? 372 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot of risk. 373 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Now, there's a lot of unknown if you hired a 374 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: guy like Shane Biemer. But what if the guy who 375 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: views your program as his dream job ended up being 376 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: the guy who was also capable, who was also a 377 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: star waiting to be born. And instead of having to 378 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: constantly worry, the better you do, the more likely he 379 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: is to leave, and we're gonna have to constantly extend him, 380 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to constantly fight off suitors. What 381 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: if you don't have to worry about that so much 382 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: every year? And what if you get assurances from him 383 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: even as you guys are winning nine games, ten games, Oh, 384 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: we just want eleven games. That's what are we doing. 385 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: We're doing stuff that hasn't been done here before. And 386 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: then imagine is all that's going on your head? Coach 387 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: is steadfast looking you in the eye after every offseason 388 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and saying thank you so much for this opportunity. 389 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. This is my home. 390 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing this for the next decade, 391 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: as long as you'll. 392 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: Have me here. 393 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: What if you strike gold with a guy that really 394 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: not many people have heard of. Not many people outside 395 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: not many people in the general college sports public know 396 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: the name Shane Beemer, but they didn't know Dabo's name either. 397 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: Don't worry about winning the press conference. Worry about winning 398 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: football games, and if you find the right guy to 399 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: win your football games, to lead your program. And he 400 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: also happens to view your program as a dream destination 401 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: where you don't have to worry about a lot of 402 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: the stuff you normally have to worry about. That could 403 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: be interesting, just could be an interesting factor that I 404 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: initially overlooked, and I don't think it's wise to necessarily 405 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: overlook that. So Shane Beemer is a name that I 406 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of have on the periphery. Again, it wouldn't own 407 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: the headlines, but you never know long term what that 408 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: could do for South Carolina. Now I committed the sin 409 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: of going even longer with that first response than I 410 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: did last week where I had to apologize on Earth. 411 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: So I again apologize for taking what is supposed to 412 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: be a three or four minute answer and going I 413 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: don't even want to say it. You can look at 414 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: your timer right now and see how long I've gone already. 415 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, but I do want 416 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: to talk about this. So Seth had a question, and 417 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people commenting about this, but 418 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: Seth actually submitted a question about will must champion is 419 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: buyout and why coaches who have big buyouts don't deserve 420 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: be felt sorry for YadA, YadA, YadA. So I'm gonna 421 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: talk about that, and I have some strong feelings on it, 422 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: believe me. Right after this, as promised, Seth says, I 423 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: saw a lot of people talking on Twitter today about 424 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: how they felt bad for wilmas Champ and how great 425 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: a guy he is. And he may be a great guy. 426 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: I've never met him before, but I have a hard 427 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: time feeling sorry for someone who's about to make out 428 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: with more money in a buyout than I'll ever make 429 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: in ten lifetimes. Boohoo for the millionaire. All right, well, 430 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: let's address this. I worked for a guy one time 431 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: who was a millionaire one hundred times over, literally, and 432 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: he used to talk to me a lot of times. 433 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Was when I worked down at the old fabric warehouse 434 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: in Columbus. There's big money in fabric. 435 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: People. 436 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: Look around your room right now. You got fabric on something, 437 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And if you do, it 438 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: probably came from him. He since passed on, but he 439 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: used to talk to me a lot. And one of 440 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: the things he said, great quote. I've never forgotten it, 441 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: and I had no clue what it meant at the time, 442 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and I still can't relate to it all that much. 443 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Yet I hope to be able to one day. He said, 444 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Money matters the most when 445 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: you don't have it. And he paused, like old men 446 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: tend to do, and I said, well I don't, so 447 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: it does very much. So right now, can I have 448 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: some money. 449 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: To go to Burger King? Hello? 450 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: And he would have given it to me. But the 451 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: point he was making was he had hurt us back there, 452 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: talking about, as you do normally in a warehouse, what 453 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you do if you won the lottery, and I do this, 454 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: and I do that, And the point is we could 455 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: have won the lottery and still not have approached his 456 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: net worth even at that moment. 457 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: And what he was saying was, you don't think I've 458 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: been poor before. 459 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: I've been poor, But the point is I got all 460 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: the money in the world now. It doesn't change what 461 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: human emotion is. It doesn't change what drive and ambition is. 462 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: And if you have those innate characteristics, what happens is 463 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: by default you're you're a two or even a one 464 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: percenter in the world, and the two percenters and the 465 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: one percenters end up garnering the most wealth in the world. 466 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: It's just a byproduct of how differently they're wired. And 467 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: those people tend to elevate to the tops of any 468 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: profession or any walk of life quicker than the ninety 469 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: eight percent or the ninety nine percent, So typically they're 470 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: gonna end up making a lot of money. What you 471 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: realize is the folks who have the inner wiring that 472 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: it takes to get to those levels most of the time, 473 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: contrary to what the stereotype is, most of the time 474 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: they're not motivated by money, and therefore when they fail, 475 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: they don't view their net worth, they don't use their 476 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: bank account to be their safety net, and Oh, that 477 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: softened my fall. It doesn't hurt as bad now. That 478 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense obviously to someone who is trying to 479 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: find two quarters to scrape together and is struggling to 480 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: do so. 481 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: I've been there. I know exactly how that feels. 482 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: I used to hear these stories and I used to say, 483 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: oh boo hoo, just like. 484 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: Seth said, and the question here, oh boo who. 485 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel bad. I'd love to trade places with him. 486 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: I'd love to be a millionaire and be a failure. 487 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't, No, you wouldn't. 488 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to us. But I can 489 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: promise you when you get to that point. 490 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: Like the old man told. 491 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Me back in the day, money matters the most when 492 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: you don't have it. 493 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, that must mean when you. 494 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Get a lot of money, it's not the end all 495 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: be all that you think it is. And I don't 496 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: know how many times history has to teach this lesson 497 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: for us to finally understand it. I'm of the opinion 498 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to learn every lesson the hard way. 499 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: There are some lessons you can learn the easy way 500 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: by observation. I've never done meth for example, I have 501 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: never had to do meth to learn the lesson that 502 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't do meth. Likewise, I listen to the old man, 503 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: and I look around at a lot of people who 504 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: are even miserable and have a ton of physical wealth 505 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: about them, and I say. 506 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: You know what, maybe money is not quite what we 507 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: make it out to be. 508 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not telling you you need to be sitting 509 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: here feeling sorry for someone who got fired but got 510 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: a huge seven or eight figure buy out. I'm not 511 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: telling you that you feel however you want to, that's 512 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: your life. What I'm telling you is, I've been around 513 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: these situations a couple of times. I've been privy to 514 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: the inner workings of a couple of these situas, and 515 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: I can promise you I would bet money. I don't 516 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: have as much of it to bet as Will Muschamp does, 517 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: but I would bet money. 518 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: Right now, we're. 519 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Sitting here on Tuesday morning recording this Mushchamp found out 520 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: he got fired Sunday night. I can guarantee the last 521 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: thing that's spent on that guy's mind the last forty 522 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: eight hours is, oh well, at least I get X 523 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: amount of dollars in the buyout. 524 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: They don't care. 525 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: Coaches don't even think like that. Their wives spend most 526 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: of their money anyway. They don't even have time to 527 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: They have no free time, and so that's not the 528 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: life they live. They're not interested in having enough free 529 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: time to enjoy their money. The money's just a byproduct of, 530 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: as I've said, how high you've risen in the profession. 531 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: And it sets up your kids and your kids kids 532 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: and kids kids' kids for life, and that's wonderful. And 533 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: they do a lot of philanthropical work with that money. 534 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: They do a lot of things that maybe you. 535 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: Don't see necessarily. So it's great. 536 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: It's great to have generational wealth. That's not what a 537 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: coach is thinking about. What a coach is thinking about, 538 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: and how a coach really defines himself is how high 539 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you've rich in the profession, how much success you've had 540 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: in the profession, how many lives you've been able to 541 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: change in your chosen profession. And when you get fired, 542 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: that consists of your superior looking you in the eye 543 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: with the backing of the fan base normally and saying 544 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: you're not good enough anymore. That for a competitor is 545 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: a crowbar to the throat it doesn't matter how many 546 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: zeros are on the check they hand you on the 547 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: way out the door. It's irrelevant. Your numb you're a failure. 548 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: You walk away and you just want to go sit 549 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in a dark room like someone with a migraine for 550 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: two weeks. That is gutting if you're a competitor and 551 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: that is all you live for professionally, you don't know 552 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: if you're ever going to get another chance. And for 553 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: must Champ, especially because now he's been fired at two 554 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: SEC programs. 555 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: This is a guy who views himself as a head coach. 556 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not telling you to feel sorry for him, 557 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: but the people who believe zeros on the end of 558 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: a paycheck, is this cure all that negates what would 559 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: normally apply principally to any normal human being in these 560 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: situationsations those, unfortunately, are the same folks who do not 561 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: possess the inner wiring to ever rise to the level 562 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: where they'll find out for themselves. It's not true, if 563 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: that makes any sense. 564 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: You know, like the. 565 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: Ones who sit around dreaming all day about what I 566 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: do when I have this kind of wealth are probably 567 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: by default not the ones who are ever going to 568 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: acquire it because you don't dream about it, you go 569 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: make it happen. And folks who have that drive to 570 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: make it happen, they don't ever sit around worrying about money. 571 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: That's not what their focus is, that's not what the 572 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: motivation is. So therefore it's certainly not the cure. It's 573 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: not the elixir, the magic elixir when they fail. And 574 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: that concludes my ted talk for this morning on that. 575 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: So in other news, Jeffrey has a question all the 576 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: way out on the West coast about Oregon, and he said, 577 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: what's it going to take for us to make the 578 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: college football playoff? Well, just keep winning games for now, 579 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: just keep winning games. I thought the win against Washington 580 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: State was a pretty big deal last week, talked about it. 581 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: On the show. 582 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to reiterate it here. For those of 583 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: you who miss that, check out the Sunday Night Show. 584 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: It's available in podcasts form two. But what I said is, 585 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: you know a lot of teams would have lost that game. 586 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: They're a ten point favorite, you're on the road, but 587 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: also it's you fall behind early. Oregon was minus three turnovers. 588 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: That's just the kind of game most teams lose. I 589 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: define turnovers at a certain numerical value, And the numerical 590 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: value that I put on a turnover times three is 591 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: more than ten and a half. I can assure you 592 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: of that. So my numbers would indicate ten and a 593 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: half point favorite minus three turnovers, they should lose the 594 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: game outright. Well, not only did Oregon not lose and 595 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: they won the game. They covered two And here's what 596 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: they did. They had this little mini offensive explosion. Tyler 597 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: Shuck played very good in the second half. They had 598 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: over three hundred and fifty total yards in the second 599 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: half Saturday night against Washington State. 600 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. 601 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: And to me, it was a big deal because they 602 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: showed a little something that I didn't necessarily believe they 603 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: were capable of early in the year. If you told 604 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: me Oregon won a game nineteen to six and it 605 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: was a defensive slug fest, oh, I'd believe they were 606 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: capable of that. But that's not what happened. They struggled defensively, 607 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: and often it's bailed them out. That's not the Oregon formula. 608 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: If there were questions, and maybe still are about Oregon, 609 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: it's the offensive line. 610 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: Who quarterback. 611 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be able to move 612 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: the ball offensively one game sample size, but they were 613 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: able to pick themselves up off the deck and win 614 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: a game, as it turns out, comfortably by doing that. 615 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: So then the next follow up is, okay, but. 616 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: They're only going to be seven and oh even if 617 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: they win the PAC twelve and seven win Oregon versus 618 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: eleven win fill in the blank. Well that's not happening either. 619 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: You don't know that it's gonna happen. Let me rephrase, 620 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: I don't know how many wins teams are gonna have. 621 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State can end up being four and oh or 622 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: seven and oh. 623 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 624 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how many wins Alabama or Florida, whoever 625 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: comes out of the SEC will end up having. 626 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: So the point is just win your games. 627 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: And let the external factors take care of themselves. I 628 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: happen to believe if Oregon keeps winning their games. What 629 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: people said two months prior, three months prior, it never 630 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: You know how this playoff stuff works. You and I've 631 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: watched it before. Think about how on its ear the 632 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: playoff picture gets turned in a normal year, just in 633 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the last week or two of the season when can 634 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: you ever remember the college football playoff picture playing out 635 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: in real time exactly how someone laid it out in August, 636 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: just nice and neatly. If you had this number of wins, 637 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: you're going to be this seed. It never works. That's 638 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: why we don't ever waste time doing it. I did 639 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: one segment the entire preseason about playoff predictions, and it 640 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: was only because they were due for twenty four seven 641 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: sports dot Com. And I understand people like reading them. Hey, 642 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: I have fun with it too, but I just don't 643 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: invest a whole lot of time on the show and 644 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: it because I just don't think there's any skill in that. 645 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any skill in. 646 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: It in the middle of the year, And so when 647 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: we get, you know, into late November then early December, 648 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: then you start to understand what the picture is and 649 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: what it's going to require. But until then, you're in 650 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: week three right now, if you're Oregon, just win your 651 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: games and you'll be shocked to understand the rest of 652 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: it will probably take care of itself. 653 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: All right. 654 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Now, here's what I want to remind you. We stretched 655 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: a little bit this morning on Thursday's show. I wanted 656 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: to be more classic and for classic those of you 657 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: who are new, what that means is we go boom 658 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: boom boom, boom boom rapid fire. We get as many 659 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: questions in as possible. There have been times where we've 660 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: gotten thirty five questions in. That's our record right now, 661 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: thirty five questions in. So fill me up with the questions. 662 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com. You 663 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: can leave us a five star review. I didn't put 664 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: that at the front end, my bad. Leave us a 665 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: five star review if you haven't already. 666 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: We're near eight fifty. 667 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: I want to say it last check, so the drive 668 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: to one thousand continues. Get us a five star review 669 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: in Apple Podcasts, and while you're there, you can write 670 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: a review and put a question in that and I'll 671 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: look to answer as many of those as I can. 672 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: Thursday. 673 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: You can also DM me on Twitter at late Kick 674 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Josh follow me while you're there. We also give out 675 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: our best bets on Twitter, so there's a lot of 676 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: reason to be there, aside from the occasional fleetwood mac 677 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: or train hopping take. So we are going to now 678 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: hit stock record so I can get ready for Late 679 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: Kick Live tonight. 680 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: I got a couple of meetings before then. Hope to 681 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: see you there. 682 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: In the meantime, have yourselves a great day, stay warm, 683 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: stay safe, stay well, and God bless