1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: My husband thinks I'm ugly, so now he wants an 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: open marriage. I told him about the first guy I 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: want to see. He doesn't want an open marriage anymore. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as soon as she links up with a 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: haughty batadi, it's all. Oh, I just want to be 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: with you, babe. Baby. You know I've I've been heaving. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: I sat down and really had some thoughts lately. Yeah. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: You know, when I said open marriage, I meant for me. Yeah, 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: for you, I love, babe. There's nothing that makes me 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: happier than banging other people. But it makes me said 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: when you bang other people. I just have such a 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: big heart. I just have so much love to get. 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, I want to give my sweetness 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: to all of those, all those babes. I got some 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: money for all these bees out there, gotta paliinate the world. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: But I still only have one queen because I am Okay, 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: oh boy, my main queen. There we go, baby. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: About one year ago, my husband Mail forty eight told 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: me female thirty nine that he was not sexually attracted 20 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: to me any more. 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: Dang, sorry about that. That is a tough hammer to drop, 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: not fun. I kind of understand that. Oh no, you're 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: beautiful on the inside. Kidding all jokes. God, Era is. 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Cod really is it is? It is blossoming. That's because 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: since our second child, male four, was born, he hasn't 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: made love to him. 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: Damn four years. 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: That is pretty rough. He said he loved me more 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: than anything in the world and that the rest of 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: the relationship was perfect, but he needed to do the 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: dirty deed or he would go crazy. I was taken aback, 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: but I started asking him about the definition of an 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: open marriage and we discussed it over a few weeks. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: To be honest, I was feeling very sexually deprived and 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the idea ordered to grow on me. I said yes 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: and asked if there were any rules, and he said 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: that usually every couple had their own rules. 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: That's true. That's so my rules. I I beg whoever 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: I want, and you don't. Yeah, you just get to 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: be an old maide that has a dusty old crevice 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: for a vagina that is unused. You know, it's custom 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: fit for us, babe for hours. Yeah. Yeah, And I 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: feel like for our needs, your needs must not be 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: met exactly. Yeah, now you get it. Yeah, I'm trying 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: to go back to like the nineteen fifties style of 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: the relationship. You know, thrown it back the good old days. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: You know, Oh my god, make open marriages great a 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: get babe. That literally was the og open marriage. Men 49 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: just rampantly cheating on them, cheating with you know, you 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: got their secretaries, only higher hot secretaries, because that was 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: that's who you bang, that's what you banged. The rules, 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: those are the rules, God, those rules of the open barriage. 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: Literally have you seen mad menon Point? That is literally 54 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: a documentary. This is no fiction. 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, So our rules are no bringing them 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: home and use protection. My husband was very clear that 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: he also wanted to know who the other person slash 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: persons were and when it happened. 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: That's uh okay. Three rules. 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: The when he said, was to plan our days. He 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: was meeting some new women within a week. I mean 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: he's busy. 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: I guess. 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: He told me everything, showed me pictures, and was gone 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: most of the nights. I'm not gonna lie. I feel 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: like crap, But I thought I needed to give it time. 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's is that a good rule? In a week? 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: He just yeah, I think it's a little information overload. 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like if you ask you share or something. Yeah, 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: it seems like yeah, He's just like look baby, look, look, look, look, 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: look look at all the top bapes. 73 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Come on, come out, check out, check come out. Yeah. 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: And this is when we did doggy Yeah, this is 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: when we did a This is a slide show, this 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: is a this is a recap. You know, I could 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: really fix my form on these thrusts for this one. 78 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: But don't worry this next girl. You really got it down. 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: If we go to slide seven, you would think this 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: is where the evening ended. But then if we go 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to slide eight, a second wind appeared abruptly. 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: And if you look at this graph, you can see 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: my sexual performance time has been increasing from five to 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes over the course of the next the last 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: three weeks. 86 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Wait, honey, I think it's a second Oh, don't mind 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the metrics now. I was more careful, however, because I 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: needed to know the people that I was hooking up with, 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: at least to have some kind of feelings. But I 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: started to relax more and flirt back with some guys. 91 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: One of them is a client, Jay thirty six, at 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: the bank I worked for, not my client, but he 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: sees me often and he was always pleasant and extra 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: chatty with me. This, this seems like it could be 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: potentially Uh I mean a client like that. 96 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, seems isn't that, Like. 97 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: It's still a workplace. 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: But I also I feel like for the open relationship stuff, 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: like at least my understanding of what, you know, what, 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: how they went into it, it seems like it was 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: just a physical thing and like the whole like wanting 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: to find an emotional connection is it wasn't an explicit 103 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: violation because they didn't put that in the open marriage contract. 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: But seems to go against the intention. 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: But you know what, it doesn't go against what getting 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: your rocks. 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: Off, getting your rocks out. You gotta get your rocks 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: off popping. Yeah, you know you need emotional connection to. 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Rock off exactly. She she needs to be railed with. 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Empathy can't come until you say I love you. That's right. 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: So now I've started flirting about a month ago, and 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: I finally decided I was ready to start sleeping with others. Okay, 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I told Jay about my arrangement. He was disappointed. 114 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Why huh? 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: How funny the first arrangement after after your dozens of 116 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: tender dates. 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: You know, I don't, but I don't think he can 118 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: be mad at her for anything because there was no 119 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: there's no explicit like no like no emotional connection or whatever, 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: like let it create those rules literally. 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: And he's gone on like he was. 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: He she's pumping at umping him through. And the first 123 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: guy for a month. 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: He was after a week boom, damn d date like 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: come on now. He was disappointed at first, but then 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: he said he was in I went home to my 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: husband and asked him if he was going to do 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: anything Friday, and he said no. I told him that 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: was good because I needed him to be with the children. 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I showed him Jay and I told him that I 131 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: was meeting him on Friday. He went silent, hmm, no, 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: no words. Now, no, where's the slide show? 133 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Now, buddy, buddy, you've made your bed, sleeping at my No, no, no, 134 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: I can't. No, I'm making my bed and going to 135 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: the hotel. Come on, baby. 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Friday came and my husband texted me that he was 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: stuck at work. 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: Wow, stuck at work. Take care of the kids. Interesting 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: and he's working hard those secretaries. 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh, he's banging out some some overdue material. If you 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: catch my drift, and that he later was going to 142 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: meet a girl so he couldn't watch a children. 143 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: Time to get the sitter. 144 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess this continued every time 145 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: I fixed a date with Jay, he would do the 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: same and leave me with the children. 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Man's playing forty Oh my god, more like two D chess. 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, very obviously. Yeah, oh my god. I don't mind 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: spending more time with my children. But I was getting annoyed. 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's not letting you get those rocks off. 151 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: Come on now, and his rocks, his rocks are miles away, 152 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: has been thrown off the different, different galaxy. 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Last Monday, I had no meetings at work after lunch, 154 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: which often means that I don't need to stay in place. 155 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I texted Jay if you wanted to meet, and he 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: was at home. 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is an afternoon delight situation. 158 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh yes it is. We're we're getting so it can't 159 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: be cock blocked. Nope, my children were in daycare. I 160 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: went to his place and it was hot. I've missed 161 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: this so so much, feeling that I'm desired and that 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: someone's eyes on me, filled with lust for me and 163 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: my body. 164 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: Oh pretty sweet good gravy. I mean, not sweet sexy. 165 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: It's sexy. It's fifty shades of gray sexy. I'm glad. 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean she thinks you low key deserves it though. 167 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, especially because like the husband's league not 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: giving her anything. 169 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Bro, my guy is banging twenty four seventh sixty five. 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: He took all of his slots and all of her slots. 171 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: When I got home, I saw my husband and told him, 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: and he was livid because I didn't tell him beforehand. 173 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: How dare you? 174 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: But she did. She said I'm gonna I plan on 175 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: sleeping with this guy. 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: She she literally let him know constantly basically all that. 177 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: All that it was was maybe maybe she didn't mention 178 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: this exact spanific instance, but it's like she's literally over 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: and over repeated. Yeah, so it kind of low key. 180 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: It's the same like I'm gonna hook up with this guy. 181 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: I've showed you a ton of times. Yeah, but you 182 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't like that it was three pm instead of seven, 183 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: like what, And it wasn't in the house or anything, 184 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: It wasn't the children. 185 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it broke any of the rules. 186 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: I think she's in the clear. 187 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Well, Opiko's on. I broke a rule. 188 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: What's the rule? 189 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I told him that I didn't he knew that I 190 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: was seeing this guy and that we've been trying to 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: make time. I guess, I guess because she didn't tell 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: him about the specific instance. Yeah. Anyway, he didn't speak 193 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: to me for the rest of the evening. God he 194 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: woke me up in the middle of the night with 195 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: gentle kisses and touches and we did it three times, 196 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the first time in almost five years. 197 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: Interesting. I think I think he has a case of like, 198 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: now that he sees that she's desirable by other men, 199 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: he's now attracted her again. 200 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: This is this is a little comical to me. 201 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think it's just super unfair to. 202 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: Her completely, like oh my gosh, and he's just like 203 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: it's it's just as a flip flop, yeah, you know 204 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. And it'd be one thing if he 205 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: saddered down and like really was like I mean, it 206 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: would still be kind of bad. If he's like, hey, 207 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I thought this was right, I'm not as comfortable with 208 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you seeing it. 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: It's still still kind of bad bad, But especially because 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: he's been like gallivanting around exactly but this just feels 211 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: like he's weaseland. 212 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: It feels like he's weaseland to me, and we've done 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: it every single night since. Now he's saying that he's 214 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: attracted to me again and that's why we need to 215 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: close up the marriage. But I don't want to. I 216 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: like having other options, and we're not her anyone. Okay, 217 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: there is a juice juice beefy Oh yeah, we got yeah, 218 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: we got we got them to go, but we got 219 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: something to go. Okay, quick thoughts everyone right now? Sam, 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: do you think Op's a hole at this instance? 221 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all, zero percent. The 222 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: a whole husband prompted this, Yeah, and now like suddenly 223 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: has changed his mind wants to close it up. My 224 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: feeling is there's a good chance that he flip flops again. 225 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, which what I think that would be so bad. 226 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: That's a good prediction, that's a good predict. 227 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know, I understand that can happen, 228 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: But he needs to be I think he needs to 229 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: communicate with himself. Yea. Why he's feeling this, Yeah, because 230 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: he's like, like, I'm not going to say like his 231 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: feelings aren't valid. Yeah, but I like I think he 232 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: needs to understand why he's flip flopping so much, and 233 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: like what is driving this attraction, because it seems what's 234 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: driving this attraction is like his view of her perceived 235 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: societal value. Yea, as like an object of desire. 236 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and now that, yeah she has that. Now 237 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: he's all over It's it's just it's this cannot be 238 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: a coincidence. No, it's he they started hooking up again 239 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: and wanting to close the marriage right after the first time. 240 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as she's like, oh wow, like other 241 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: guys want her. It's it's the Cleopatra effect. 242 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard that before. 243 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: I just made it up. 244 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Save the Philosopher over here. 245 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: Was like, you know, had that had the baddest vagione 246 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: in the game r right, because like all the dudes 247 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: from all around the Mesopotamia, freaking region, Egypt, Greece, all 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: all those places were just like damn she bad as hell. 249 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: And it was wasn't because she necessarily had like the yeah, 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: because she was like the prettiest in all the land 251 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: or the most bodacious booty and all all of of 252 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: of Djibouti, But it was because she was like seen 253 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: as this icon, right, and this thing that all men 254 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: wanted and most likely some women too, and oh baby, 255 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: and like her perceived value in society was like massive, 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: and so everyone wanted to hook up with Cleopatra Opus Cleopatra. Yeah, 257 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: I like. I like the new Turkey Patra effect. 258 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: That's right. So on to the update. When I found Jay, however, 259 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: my husband was suddenly attracted to me. We've been doing 260 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: it regularly. I loved it because I love my husband 261 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's just a wonderful feeling to be desired by 262 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: him again, even though deep down I knew he wasn't 263 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: attracted me as much as he was panicking that I'm 264 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: starting to sleep with others. 265 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: Ah. Interesting a panic with the worst cad the worst 266 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 267 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: And I was right. Last Tuesday I was supposed to 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: meet with Jay again. So Monday evening, as per our agreement, 269 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I told my husband about it. He was so surprised. 270 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Why do you even want to meet him when I've 271 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: done it to your sweet vagine every night for the 272 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: past week, babe? 273 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: Is that actually what? No? I took some I took 274 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: some liberty for. 275 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: I just looked at him and told him that I 276 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: didn't understand what he meant. We had an open marriage, 277 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: and I've been very clear that I don't want to 278 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: close it again. I feel very happy and content for 279 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: the first time in years, and he has been sleeping 280 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: with others for a year without any problems. God. 281 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, hipocrisy is the issue. 282 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: It's too high. Yeah, it's way too high. 283 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: I don't have like, I don't really have an issue 284 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: with someone saying, hey, this is what I what I need, 285 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: and let me show you what I need by living 286 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: that myself. Yeah, but when it's a double standard like you, 287 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: it's it's. 288 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: Just so hot. Maybe if it was like first few 289 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: weeks he did one person, she did one peron. Again, 290 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: it's poor, but it's it's so far at this point. 291 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: She's only had one due in this man's leg, you know, 292 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: been running trains. 293 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Dude, Like all the all that he'd gone through, all 294 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: the secretaries and all of the companies. 295 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: All the secretaries, try single secretary of that tri state. 296 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: It's all that. Maybe that's why maybe he actually ran 297 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: through the list, he just yellow books secretaries. Oh my goodness, 298 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Well why now? Well, he told me that he hadn't 299 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: been with anyone in almost two weeks. 300 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: Oh wow, standing, oh man, man, in two weeks, what 301 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: is he gonna do? Wait? Someone called the Nobel peace price. 302 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: We need to give to him now two weeks? What 303 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: do you want? Bro? 304 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Because he thought that I quote was enough, so he 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: didn't understand why he wasn't enough for me. 306 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, bro. 307 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Maybe when you winter and literally said you are not 308 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: attracted to you at all? Literally, dude, also. 309 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: In two weeks, get off your stop, man, have a 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: cheeky wank or something. 311 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: He's he's he's I mean, he's so used to his 312 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: frequency is so high to him. That's like, that's a week, bro, 313 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: He's like not three three secretaries, different secretaries a day? 314 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean that, what's what's fourteen? What's fourteen times three? 315 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Is that thirty six forty eight? 316 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Crap? 317 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: How can I not do math anymore? 318 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:12,239 Speaker 2: Six times seven? That's like forty Wow, this is pathetic. 319 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: It's not quarantine. Did twenty eight to forty two? Forty two? 320 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 321 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: What was it? 322 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Forteen times three forty two? 323 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: Nice? 324 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Nicely done, bro, I completely I said, thirty six and 325 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: forty eight? Oh god, your boys, okay, we can read 326 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: though we don't read math. I asked him why the 327 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: sudden interested me in my body. He has never been 328 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: so interested before, and never so passionate and attentive, not 329 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: even when I was ten years younger and more beautiful. 330 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: He said, he always found me beautiful, and he didn't 331 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: know why he's more attracted now except know why, dude, 332 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: except for the time when you said you weren't attracted 333 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: to her. 334 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: I think we know why. He's like he fell out 335 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: of love or like, you know, fell out of interest 336 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: with her body, because he's like, I got that so 337 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: unlocked down, like like he's like he's like, he's like, 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: you know, she has no value to me anymore, and 339 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: there's there's no desire there because the world does not 340 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: desire her, which this is his thinking, that might think. 341 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: And now suddenly that he sees that she's desirable to 342 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: other men, now he's like, oh my god, she's desirable 343 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: to me. There it is, yeah, yikes, social psychology, big brains, ladies, gentlemen. 344 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I told him I knew why, because suddenly you couldn't 345 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: picture someone else with your wife, and suddenly I was 346 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: more than a wife or a mother in your eyes, 347 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I was a sexual being. 348 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: There we go, yeah, which I think is like you know, 349 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: this is probably a great case in some ways for 350 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: the open marriage to like re spark the desire between 351 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: the two partners. Like, it's kind of interesting. 352 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it like that. 353 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: Like what if you're like, dude, like I'm not, I'm 354 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: not really feeling your hotness anymore. Maye we start hooking 355 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: up with other people and we'll think we're hot again. 356 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible. 357 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: Never consider idea. I think that's a great idea. If 358 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: you guys are both on board, Yo, that's a. 359 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Great If they're both on board, it's it's just it's 360 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: just simp a dicey game. 361 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: I think that it's a dicey game for sure. If 362 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: that is truly both like if they want to attracted 363 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: to your partner anymore, it feels like a great solution. 364 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: That's a solution, bro, that's a great solution. If I'm 365 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: like fifty and I'm and and one of my like 366 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: my partner is not attracted me or I'm not attracted 367 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: to them, open marriage for a little bit, like you know, 368 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: three months, let's see how many batties we both can get, 369 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: and then we'll tell each other and then we'll probably 370 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: get jealous, and then we'll be together. 371 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: It's just a cycle open close, Yeah. 372 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, Dude, everyone in in uh retirement home is hooking 373 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: up with each other. 374 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: I mean, what else they got to do? 375 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: What else they got to do? And then they're probably 376 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: more madly into each other because they're like damn. 377 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean at that point, it's just like Greece. You 378 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: don't care like jeans, still got it. You don't got 379 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: to worry about STDs. You're going out the door and 380 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: going out the door. Dude, free for all. Yeah, get 381 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: super Clamydia, the ultimate. Yeah, I get it all. 382 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: Collect them all have massive orgies where it's like I 383 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: have this idea for an orgy where it's like a 384 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: circle and it's like dickt to butt, dicta but dicta butt, 385 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: dicta butt. So it's one It would only work for 386 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: a gay orgy, but it was like one continuous circle 387 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: where everyone's sing each other. Oh yeah, you could do 388 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: that too. You could do strap ons, that's true. Could 389 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: you can do strap ons? There we go inclusive. You 390 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: got to include the headerows that's right, And it's just 391 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: like one circle of continuous interconnected sex. 392 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean that is human centipede that sounds human sentiped 393 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: different thing that sounds like a genis world record. That 394 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: needs to be the largest continuous ring of people just 395 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: banganging each other. 396 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: I wonder if that this must be like a video 397 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: somewhere somewhere, somewhere somewhere. 398 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Called U show. What's our newest show going to be 399 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: called the Circle of Sex? Okay? 400 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: Sex and the People Sex? Okay, Big Gray moves There 401 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: we go the Only Fans Podcast. 402 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: That's right. He tried to deny it, but I didn't budge. 403 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: I told him that he wasn't seeing other women because 404 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: he's too busy trying to keep me at bay. The 405 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: moment I was under his control again, he would lose 406 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: interest and start seeing other women. 407 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: To your we said, that's what we said. I think 408 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: I think she's right. 409 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully when I'm pregnant, because in your mind, I 410 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: would be less appealing to men. He was so angry 411 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: about this, and he told me it was all in 412 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: my head. 413 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: I don't know. 414 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: I think she's right on the money with this one. 415 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: I think. 416 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: So he threw the dinner plate across the room and. 417 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Left Yoh that is not acceptable. 418 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, he's losing it. He's losing it. 419 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: He spent the night outside. Next day he was calmer, 420 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: and I told him that I didn't want to close 421 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: our marriage. I loved him very much, but I was 422 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: miserable without making love. 423 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: I believed it in my. 424 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Heart that we, the both of us, could have the 425 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: cake and eat it too. We could have our beautiful 426 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: life with our children, our careers, families, friends, our hobbies, 427 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: trips and dinner dates, everything that we loved and cherished 428 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: about each other, and active sex lives with like minded people. 429 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: I told him that he didn't seem to be as 430 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: cool with my picks as I was all these months 431 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: with all the women he showed me. Maybe I could 432 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: be more discreet so the men I met stayed faceless 433 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: in his mind. Maybe it was easier he didn't answer me, 434 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: or we could go our separate ways to this. He 435 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: was starting to get agitated again, so I asked him 436 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: to calm down and listen. 437 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: Interesting. So she's like, hey, I don't want to back 438 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: down from this open marriage. So it's either open marriage 439 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: or no marriage. 440 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: And it's wild, because bro, this is literally all because 441 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: of you, like you created the monster. 442 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: That's the thing about asking for an open marriage when 443 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: you said it was a dicey game. It's like if 444 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: you open it that and you both agree to open it, 445 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: then you have to both agree to closes it, you know, and. 446 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 1: That it just it just might not line up, you know, 447 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: it might line up. 448 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 449 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: The more like decisions like that, the harder it is 450 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: to align it hard to close. It is unlike the 451 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: legs of the secretary that this guy was my goodness. 452 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: He couldn't just demolish the kitchen and walk away every 453 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: time I said something that wasn't to his taste. 454 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: Correct. 455 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't and wouldn't go back to how things were 456 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: before opening our marriage. So either he wanted this or 457 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: we get a divorce. Laying down the lock. 458 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like the it seems like the 459 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: initial marriage is pretty unfair to herself. It feels right. 460 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I asked him to think about it. Thursday, when he 461 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: got back from work, I had already changed and was 462 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: ready to go out. He didn't say anything. When I 463 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: got home, he was crying and said that he couldn't 464 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: do this anymore. I told him that we can only 465 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: have one solution then, and it was divorce. He said 466 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: that I was brutal. Quote you're not the beautiful kind 467 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: of woman I married anymore. Buddy, Buddy, buddy, this guy 468 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: is too much. 469 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's like, I mean, let's let's play 470 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: Devil's advocate for a secon. Yeah, right, is it mean 471 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: to not go back to I think his reasons are bad. 472 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 2: There's a lot of red flags that are coming up 473 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: for him. But let's let's say let's say there were like, 474 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: let's say there were no red flags. Again, obvious red 475 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: flags for this guy, but let's say like he let's 476 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: say everything actually went smoothly where it's like he asked 477 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: for an open marriage. He's like, I don't know, But 478 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: then they do it, and they both go and see 479 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: other people, and then he goes to her a few 480 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: months later and it's like, hey, I don't know how 481 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: comfortable I am with his open marriage. Do you mind 482 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: if we close it? And she's like, I mean yeah, 483 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: she has every right to say no even in that situation. 484 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: So again, if if what kind of marriage, if the 485 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: decisions one hundred percent aligned at every step between the 486 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: two of them, then there's no issue. But it's like 487 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: he's done all this tomfoolery and he created the situation. 488 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Now not aligned. 489 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: And now she's like no, like, now that we're here, 490 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: because of what you suggested, I don't want this. 491 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so and so, even without the red flags, I 492 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: think she's still entitled to say no open marriage or 493 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: or divorce. Yeah, and so I think with all these 494 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: red flags, she's like doubly entitled. Yeah. Yeah. 495 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: He hasn't been home this weekend. He called every night 496 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: just to say good night to the children. He texted 497 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: me once are you in love with Jay? No? 498 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: Is he better than me? Losing questions like oh. 499 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: No, are you going to start dating him if we divorce? 500 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I didn't answer. 501 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Damn, bro, you're asking the dude. Dude, Okay, there's it's 502 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: it's to see a medium chunk. But yeah, guy, it's 503 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, like I don't necessarily feel bad for him, but. 504 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a it's a it's a drastic fall. 505 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: There's part of me that if he didn't have red flags, 506 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: or I think there would be part of me that 507 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: would feel a little bad for him. 508 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: My guy is about to go from red flag to 509 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: red pill real fast. 510 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 511 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: All I woulded was the big whoever I woulded, And 512 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: then she banged someone and I didn't. 513 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: Like it, and then here we are. Yeah, dude, you 514 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: made the bed. You made the bed, made got a lay. Yeah, 515 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: it sucks, It sucks for you. You know he made 516 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: the bed. 517 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: But Sam, are you ready to get in the bed 518 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: of this update? 519 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: I would. I just want to. I just want to 520 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: like give a little little shout out to Op for 521 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: for really standing her ground. Yes, yes, she know, like 522 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: she realized what she needs to be happy. Yes, and 523 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: she's not going to take shit from this guy that's 524 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: been treating her poorly. You are exactly. It really is 525 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. But it 526 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: sucks for this dude. But I think he has a 527 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: lot of stuff to work on on his own. 528 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's got to he's got to go work 529 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: it out. He's got to go work it out. Okay, 530 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: on to the update, the final. 531 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: Update, boo countdown. 532 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: Jay has called me to tell me that it's all 533 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: over and Jay, remember Jay is her hookup, not the husband. 534 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: I wonder why that happened. Funny you ask Tom Foolery 535 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: and the husband did something. My husband asked to meet 536 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: him yesterday. He denied that we had an open marriage 537 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: and told Jay he needed to back off. Wow, bro, Bro, Wow. 538 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: He showed him the texts where I said that Jay 539 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: wasn't better in bed and that I wasn't in love 540 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: with him. So Jay was very hurt believing that I 541 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: like to him this sneaky scoundrel. He used the texts. 542 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: That's why he asked those questions. 543 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Bro, is he where does he think this is bro 544 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: getting him? 545 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: I think I think he's he's gone full delusion mode. 546 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's I think he's probably just trying 547 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: to hurt anything he can. Yeah, I think he's going 548 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: to he's going he's trying to get like kamikazeing and 549 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: find the plane into the relationship. And he's like, I'm 550 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: taking you down with me. 551 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Man, like all plausible deniability. 552 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: This guy's just the window, full blown mass, full blown 553 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: ass hat, bro. And he's lying to the guy. He's 554 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: literally he's literally lying. 555 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: I tried to explain everything to Jay, but he didn't 556 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: believe me. 557 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't feel bad that this guy has made a 558 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: terrible life for himself. Is Yeah. 559 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I sent him a screenshot with my husband arranging his 560 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: hookups and a screenshot with me telling my husband that 561 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: I was meeting Jay. I think he believed me after that. 562 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: He said he wanted to end it anyways. He has 563 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: feelings for me, but this arrangement won't work for him anymore. 564 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: I told him that I totally understand and I apologize 565 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: for my and my husband's actions. I'm not mad, but 566 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm sad that I've lost him. It takes a lot 567 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: for me to like and trust someone. But I understand 568 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to deal with this drama. I 569 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of get it too. 570 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understand your point and understand it. 571 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to miss him though. My husband came home 572 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: today all smiles, and he said that we should give 573 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: our open marriage another shot. 574 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: What an act hole, What an asshole? 575 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 576 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 577 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: Seeing how the children were happy seeing him after disappearing 578 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: for the whole weekend broke my heart. I've been so 579 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: self involved forgetting that my babies are the most important 580 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: thing right now. I won't forget that now. 581 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: Wow. I don't know if I like where this story ended. No, 582 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: it's like like it feels like this feels like this 583 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: dude's just getting like a free pass. Yeah, you have 584 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: a villain one. 585 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: Literally the most free pass, Like like he's done all 586 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: of this tomfoolery and he I mean the way that 587 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: ending leads me to believe is that they stay together. 588 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a happily ever after. But dude, you're 589 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: marrying the wrong guy. 590 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: Dude, he is He's a maniac. He is like on 591 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: a different planet. 592 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, Well the question stands, ladies and gentlemen, 594 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: for all of you, with your wonderful fingers, let us know, 595 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: was op the a hole? I kind of want to 596 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: know what's the real question here? What's the real question here? 597 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: My question is is the husband the a hole for 598 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: wanting to close the marriage again? Like if you I 599 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: think that. The question I have is, let's say there's 600 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: no red flags if you say, hey, I'm not really 601 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: attracted to you, but I think it's because like I don't, 602 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. I haven't seen you as 603 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: an object of this is this is really honest seeing 604 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: you as an object of desire and a lot time, 605 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: And I think opening the marriage would allow me to 606 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: see you, like as attractive in the eyes of other men, 607 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: and this I might be attracted to you. Could we 608 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: open the marriage to see if we can kickstart our 609 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: own sexual interest in each other again, and then close 610 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: it once that sexual interest is ignited. Is that you 611 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: think a non act whole thing to do. And then 612 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: also like at the certain levels that op took, what 613 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 2: was the first action that he took that was an 614 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: actable behavior? Was it asking for the open marriage? Yeah? 615 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: Was it saying hey, like you can't see this guy. 616 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: I would really love to know where you think the 617 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: act wholeness came from on either side. And then also 618 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: have you ever had an open marriage and closed it 619 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: or open if for anyone who has had an open 620 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: marriage that it was either successful or unsuccessful, what did 621 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: it look like when it started and you did you 622 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: close it at any point? Did it cause the marriage 623 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: to fall apart? I would love to hear those stories 624 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: very much. 625 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, but I mean might even if we get 626 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: some some great ones, might even bring it on the show. 627 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: That's a very interesting story. But yeah, I mean what 628 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: would you say? What where do you think was the 629 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: first time it was like went over the line to ail? 630 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean for the husband. I think the first time 631 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: was when he was cock blocking the wife. Yeah, that 632 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: felt like it's like, hey, you're being a hypocrite here, 633 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: like It's one thing to ask for an open marriage 634 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: and start to test that out, but to not allow 635 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: the wife to play by the same rules you're playing 636 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 2: by seems really hypocritical and really insecure. Yeah, and then 637 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: I think he just got progressively more Yeah. 638 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, throughout the story exactly, he's just amplified. It's snowballs. 639 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what balls we always love, which 640 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: one sam the little balls of characters that I call 641 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: words that you drop, that you drop in the comments 642 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: section below, Oh yes, love those balls. Love those balls, 643 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: word balls. And we have a few comments from the video. 644 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: My stepdad stole my inheritance to buy house. This is 645 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: my revenge. And in story one, the stepdad steals the 646 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: inheritance buy the house. Public subscriber Moonlight zero two one six' 647 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: one says if money is left the, child it is 648 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: the Child's she can sue her, parents lawyer. Up my, 649 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: love you can totally win. This his parents made some 650 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: big no, nos especially about spending that much in a, 651 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: house just shy of the eighteenth birthday when a residence 652 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: before was, fine and then public Subscriber Jay akevedo, says 653 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: hope there is an update where he sues them for 654 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: the stolen, money or has them arrested for buying a 655 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: house of stolen. Money it will be beautiful either. Way 656 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: LIKE i hope thieves and the man here are so. 657 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: Screwed ooh, strong opinions. Strong we love the opinions of 658 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: our public. Subscribers if you have an opinion that you 659 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: want to drop and maybe have us read comment down 660 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: below and we'll talk to you. Soon love, you and 661 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: make sure to publicly. 662 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Subscribed my son's in laws bandits from the, wedding, fine 663 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: Then i'm evicting your daughter in mich writer. 664 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: SON i feel like the punishment fits the. Crime you. 665 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: KNOW i feel like if you don't invite your parents 666 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: to your wedding and you're still living in their house rent, 667 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: free then you gotta you gotta get your butt out 668 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: of there, then you. KNOW i think it's like the 669 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: ultimate insult. Too it is it is like you can't 670 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: live here. ANYMORE i mean that it's like it would 671 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: be bad if you went to your to your friend 672 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: and be, like, hey like, sorry you can't come to the, 673 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: Wedding like that would be. Bad but if you went 674 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: to like your parents are like, YEAH i don't think 675 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: it would be like a, fit you, know, like. 676 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: YEAH i JUST i just don't think it's your, vibe 677 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, Mean like we're gonna be playing 678 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: like music you don't like eating like vegan. 679 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: Stuff the. Guy let's see the guy from the office 680 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: or off the space where it's, like, yeah the long 681 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: the long haired, guy the guy the guy from office 682 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: space that's like a dick is the movie or the? Movie, 683 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: yeah a lumber like Mister. Lumberg, yeah he's like you Put, 684 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah i'm gonna need you To. 685 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: They should they should hire that guy to tell, them, 686 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: like you're not invited to the. Way, yeah there's a 687 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: guy a TikTok who does. That well you're not. Invited 688 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: well he just delivers bad news like, hey h your 689 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: wife is leaving you for the mail. Man, wow it's great. Content. 690 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: Wow so my wife AND i bought a four bedroom 691 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: house In pennsylvania that my son lives In. Nice our 692 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: son went to college In pennsylvania and wanted to stay 693 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: in the, area so it just made. 694 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: Sense so free, living, great free living and free, loading that's. Right. 695 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: Uh so we bought the house as a second. Home 696 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: we live In New jersey and commute Into manhattan for. 697 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Work we figured that he would have a place to 698 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: live and could visit every so often and we could 699 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: spend some quality time. 700 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: Together so, far so. Good, yeah it seems like the perfect. 701 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: Setup the. 702 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Parents the parents are doing what they can for the baby. 703 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Boy we pay the, taxes services and maintenance on the, 704 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: house and our son pays for his groceries and the house, 705 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: utilities and so that's a pretty sweet fricking. 706 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: Deal, yeah pay for his Grown it's, like, uh, yeah 707 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: of course he graduated from. 708 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: University, yeah, yeah he's LIKE i think he's going through. 709 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: UNIVERSITY i guess at this point through. 710 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: UNIVERSITY i feel like my parents help pay for my 711 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: groceries WHEN i was going through. 712 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: University but it's also not like, like oh my, gosh 713 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: he pays for his, Groceries like you, know it's not 714 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: like a huge flex, bro not a huge flex almost 715 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: going well for a few, years and our son met 716 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: a girl and they got, serious, serious, serious, serious. 717 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: Serious about clapping down. 718 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Jerks now we met her and she seems nice enough 719 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: when she's not getting, no. 720 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: No, No then she's, naughty and then she's naughty not. 721 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Nice santa's got a brand new bag and you made 722 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: the naughty. 723 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 2: List you're gonna go directly Into santa's. Sack it ain't, 724 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: cold BUT i got two lumps for. You let's just 725 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: Say i'm gonna go through your chimney. Today, nice too. 726 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: BAD i can barely fit with my. 727 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: And and and here and here's what we just went, 728 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: down like Full, christmas, dude full Christ. 729 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: We're in the middle Of. 730 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: July, yeah, yeah, yeah you, know it's like we're halfway. 731 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: There we're halfway. There but then the big. Announcement they 732 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: announce that they're, engaged and she moves into the house 733 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: with our. Son so that's that's a big. Move it's 734 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: a huge move getting engaged over. Here now for the 735 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: problem the. 736 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: Wedding, SEE i thought that would be like not the. 737 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: PROBLEM i think that would be, like you, know all 738 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: the wedding celebration and, yes, love when when the wedding 739 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: is the, problem you, know something ain't. 740 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: Right of, course we hold a little get to know 741 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: you barbecue at Our pennsylvania. House my son and daughter are, 742 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: there as are our son's fiance and her parents and. Sisters. 743 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: Cool we all seem to beginning along. Well my, wife 744 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: daughter and the fiance go into the house along with 745 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: her mother and, sisters and my, son. 746 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: A lot of, family big. 747 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: FAMILY a few minutes, later my wife and daughter come 748 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: out and they're really. Upset what. Happened they come over 749 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: and tell me that we're leaving and driving back To New. 750 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: Jersey, okay WHY i try to find out what. 751 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: Happened and once we got back To New, jersey they 752 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: calmed down and they tell me that our son and 753 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: his fiance's family don't want us at their own. 754 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: Wedding how could you say, that, like like the balls 755 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: on you to be LIKE i don't want you At it's? Insane, 756 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah like that's what That that is the most ridiculous request. Ever. 757 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: Now, now maybe if they were, like you, know we 758 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: had we had a parents a few stories back that 759 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: were like trying to say that they were trying to 760 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: send them to like a mental institution to steal all their. Money, 761 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: yeah if their parents are like, that then that makes. 762 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Sense but these parents are doing everything they can to support. 763 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: You, yeah, yeah and they like they let you stay 764 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: in the. House in the, House like what the man 765 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 2: has not thought this. Through let's just say. That Good. 766 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: God according to WHAT i was, called we're not there 767 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of. 768 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: People what does that? Mean what does that? Mean like 769 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: are they like really smelly or something or like like 770 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: covered in. 771 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: Shit it's like like. 772 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 2: And just roll around in feces like like like even 773 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 2: if you had rolled around in vces and you smelled 774 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: the high, oven just like put a shower up into 775 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: hose them down before they. Go they're walking you down the. 776 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: Aisle have a spray with some suns and some. Water 777 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be like one of those like like drive through. Carts, 778 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: LITERALLY i was. LIVID i called my son and asked 779 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: him what the heck this was all. About he tells 780 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: me that her family feel that we are not good 781 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: enough and will embarrass them at a family, wedding and 782 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: that we are all uninvited from the. Wedding Whmbarrass? HOW 783 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: i want to know? HOW i want to know? 784 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: How so not good? 785 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: Enough that's? Crazy this needs to be like get his 786 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: life in, check. 787 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: Dude we need we need to create like we need 788 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: to create A tv show where we create the worst 789 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: people from Our reddit stories and just like like embarrass the. 790 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah you know practical. 791 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: Jokers NO i. 792 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: Don't actually it's like this like classic prank show kind 793 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 2: of like burped all prank. Shows, yeah and there's this 794 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: one where they they basically like set up a fake 795 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: prank show where they get people to like sign something, 796 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: right and then they just go like when they when 797 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 2: LIKE i think they sit on a whoope, cushion just 798 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: like something super, dumb and then a whole live band comes, 799 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: in like like a big ass like baby comes in 800 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: and it says you're a dumb, Fuck you're a dumb. 801 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: Fuck and then a guy comes out and says you're 802 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 2: on dumb fucksum. Fuck but then the person starts crying, 803 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: yeah and the guy who's like like making them like 804 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: like like like like driving, Them, yeah uh is actually 805 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: getting pranked because they hired a professional actor to cry 806 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: on the spot and so he's the one getting. Pranked 807 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: it's a reverse. 808 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Prank Uno CARSE i like the reverse, prank LIKE i 809 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: would do, it you know how they like watching the 810 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: trailer like the other person getting. 811 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: PRANKED i would have like just. 812 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: Some like frickin muscleman just like like like arm, sports 813 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: like bust down the door and then just start like 814 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: there's like another producer sitting next to. 815 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: Them and they'd be like you owe. 816 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Me fifty thousand dollars and just try to attack them 817 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: and that person just like holy. 818 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 2: Shit, yeah like they think they're watching the. Prank, yeah 819 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: but literally they know that they are the. 820 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: Prank back back to back to our our protagonists. 821 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: Who are not being. Pranked this is sadly, reality sad. 822 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: REALITY i little week go by to call myself, down 823 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: and THEN i drive back to The pennsylvania. House the 824 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: new future in laws are in the house along with the. 825 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: Fiance it appears they've all moved into the house. House 826 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: what so you uninvite me from the wedding and now 827 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: you live in my, house all of, them all of, 828 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: them the parents. 829 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: TOO i don't understand how they think that this family 830 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 2: will embarrass them at the, Wedding like they they are embarrass, 831 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 2: yeah like they have like a house to live. 832 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: In like, guys, guys we don't want to embarrass, Us 833 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: so we're just gonna live in your house and and 834 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: use your credit cards and like because you just be too, 835 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: Embarrassing like it would just be too. 836 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: Embarrassing LIKE i, GET i, mean this is it would be. 837 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: Terrible BUT i could understand if like the other family 838 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: was super rich or, something and then it was like 839 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: you can't come to the wedding because you're a bunch of, hicks, 840 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: right like so terrible some sort of like that like, reason, 841 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: yeah like but that no reason makes? Reason but what 842 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: the heck is the? Reason there's not even any logic behind, 843 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: it like they have NO i don't. UNDERSTAND i really 844 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: want to, know LIKE i want to, yea sit them, 845 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: down say what the fuck is going? On they asked 846 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: me What i'm doing? There, GEE i own the. 847 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: House i've told them that since we aren't. INVITED i 848 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: was coming over to talk to my. Son they tell 849 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: me to leave their. 850 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: House. Ridiculous we're about. It we're about to live the 851 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 2: other shoes about to. Draw are you, Ready? Sam we're 852 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: fully cocked and loaded over. Here i'm ready to be cocked. 853 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: COCKED i lost. 854 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: IT i told them that they had thirty days to 855 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: get the. 856 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: F outs a lot. 857 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: Very generous over. HERE i told my Son i'm selling 858 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: the house and he could find somewhere else to live 859 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: with all of. THEM i go to realtor in town 860 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: and list the house for. 861 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 2: Sale, wow that was, Quick. 862 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: Daddy ain't playing. Around they call my son at work 863 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: and tell him WHAT i. Said apparently they thought he 864 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: owned the. House how the tables have turned jokes on? 865 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: You? 866 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: Now who's? 867 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: Embarrassing how did they think he owns? It he's in. 868 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: College he listened To Gary Vee yeah and to THE. 869 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: I decided to fuck my parents and, LIKE i got a, 870 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 3: house bro WHAT i turned this paper clip and then 871 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 3: went to a garage sale and bought a little kiddie 872 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: pool and then sold it as an. 873 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: Nfty fuck your, parents your parents don't. Sleep he calls 874 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: me and asks me Why i'm selling the. HOUSE i 875 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: told HIM i paid for it along with the taxes on, 876 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: it so it's. 877 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 2: Mine damn, straight the only answer you. 878 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: Need he was living there rent, free but since he 879 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: decided he doesn't want us in his new fancy schmancy, 880 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: life he has to get. 881 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: Out punishment fits the. 882 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: Crime, yeah it. DOES i tell him the same AS 883 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: i told his future in. Laws he has thirty days 884 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: to get, out and Then i'll get my lawyer and 885 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: get them. Evicted. Shit so the question, is so the 886 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: question is AM i the a hole for taking this 887 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: hard stance on? Them he is my, son but the 888 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: in laws seemed to take over and we no longer. 889 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: COUNT i, mean he needs to learn a. Lesson, honestly 890 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: this is this is the exact appropriate. Punishment this is 891 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 2: reality hitting it like sitting in right, right like, like 892 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 2: oh you think like you think that you're better than. Us, 893 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 2: now well let's let's let's, see let's see if you 894 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 2: can fend for. 895 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: Yourself yeah you know, What yeah go go buy, go 896 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: go buy a mansion with all you're clearly like so 897 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: much better than, us better at making money and all that. 898 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 2: Stuff then go go be better and buy a. House 899 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 2: go do. It fuck that, guy