1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: How will I know if he really loves me? That's 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: what Whitney Houston wants saying. But look, how are you 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: and I going to know if they really love college football? 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: From conference commissioners to even in your own family. We're 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: talking about all that indie Late Kick Extra podcast this morning. 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm Josh fate Man. This thing's growing rapidly. 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First question this morning, Dustin said, can 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: we address the college football myth that Clemson would not 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: be considered elite if they played in the SEC? Oh boy, 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: He continues, there's a better argument that Clemson as a 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: program will actually improve with increased revenue playing in the 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: best confertference from Naples, Florida. 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: That's where Dustin resides. 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Dustin is telling you, while a lot of folks think 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: that Clemson would just get chewed up by the SEC. 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: He actually believes they would benefit from increased revenue and 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: deal the basic treasure trove that a lot of SEC 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: programs get to draw from. And I think there are 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: there are arguments to be made both ways. This is 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: not a debate that gets settled to me, But I've 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: always sort of probably sixty forty leaned Dustin's way. Now, 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: if you wanted to counter me, I've watched, just like 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: you have, clumbson benefit from playing a soft schedule. And 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: when I say benefit, I mean getting to the championship game, 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: maybe healthier than some other teams, or you know, being 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: able to play close games against inferior competition. Bring their 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: B minus or C plus game, for example on a Saturday, 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: and because they're playing a lesser opponent, they're able to 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: skate by with a closer whim. Yeah, you could say 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: all that, but you know what else I could say? 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: And I realized this a few years ago. I realized 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: that Clemson actually does not get battle tested like some 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: of the teams they face in postseason play when they 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: make the playoff for national championship game. And that's not 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: always benefit The great misconception, if you want to call 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: it that, around Clemson has been that they get to 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: skate through all of these what you would call glorified 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: high school teams. I have a little more respect than that. 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Another commenter said that that's why I use that language. 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: But they get to skate through this easier schedule, then 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: they're just all primed up for the title game if 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: and when they get there. 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: But you can't have it both ways. 54 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: You can't brag about how the SEC is a gauntlet 55 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: and you get battle tested for having gone through that, 56 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: which I believe, but also say that Clemson benefits. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: From not going through it. 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: So the only benefit I think they've had is they 59 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: don't get as banged up because to me, like when 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I watch those teams that are able to make it 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: through the SEC, I think they're all the better for 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: it on the back. 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: End, which leads me to my next point. 64 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: And what the most impressive thing that Daboswenny ever did 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: was Daboswenny found a way two times to make it 66 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: through the ACC schedule when it really wasn't anything to 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: write home about, and somehow still had his team ready, 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: just just mentally ready, even though they weren't battle. 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Tested by the schedule. 70 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: He still had them playing at such a high level 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: that they were able to trade punches with Alabama a 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: couple of times. And they were able to do that 73 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: even in twenty fifteen when they narrowly lost the game. 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: That to me is impressive because they hadn't been tested 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: like that. Bama had had three or four knife fights already. 76 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: They had not been tested like that. So while yeah, 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: it is true they don't run as high risk and 78 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: injury in the acccene, that does matter. 79 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: It's very important. 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: I've not always believed that playing the soft schedule is 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the benefit that some others believe it is. 82 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Now. 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Again, that's kind of a differing opinion thing. It's not 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: like there's a definitive yes or no on that. But 85 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I've also heard Daboswenny talk about it before. I don't 86 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: think Daboswhenny particularly enjoys being favored by three or four 87 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns multiple times a year in conference play, I think 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: that he is a competitor, and really, truth be told, 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: he would love to see the rest of the acc 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: raise its collective game, but he. 91 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Can't do it for him. 92 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: They can't do it for him, So, yeah, Clemson, I 93 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of side with you there. I think Clemson probably 94 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: would net benefit more from going to the SEC than 95 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: they would hurt going to the SEC. It'd be an adjustment, now, 96 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: that's no lie, but I think they would benefit, So 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Next up, a question that is 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: on pretty much everyone's mind. So we could have chosen 99 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: a million, but why not go with our buddy Chris. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Chris asks, do we really believe these reports that the 101 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: SEC cares about college football and wants to stop their expansion. 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: At sixteen teams? 103 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's breathe deep, and let's try and responsibly 104 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: talk about this. So around this time last year, as 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: it turns out, about a year removed from it now, 106 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: you had the big breaking news, Oh you Texas headed 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: to the SEC. It happened right in the middle of 108 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: SEC media days. One of the biggest stories that I 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: can remember in the last decade plus college football, And 110 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: there was a big fear that gripped the sport and 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: gripped a lot of fans. And I was wrapped up 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: in it too, because I wasn't particularly crazy about the 113 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: notion of a lot of the power teams being consolidated. 114 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Into one or two conferences. That's my personal preference. And 115 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: so I remember at the time, one of the big 116 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: talking points was, Oh, the SEC is not going to 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: stop there, right. 118 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: They're going to go eighteen or twenty or twenty four. 119 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Maybe some people even thought a thirty teen super League, 120 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: and they'll just create their own playoff and they'll be 121 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: their own universe. They'll detach from the rest of us 122 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and they'll just be their own universe. And I never 123 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: bought into that. I also was sort of in the 124 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: middle a little bit because I didn't also know if 125 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: they were done expanding. To me, where the SEC stood 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: after making that move is the same place they stand 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: right now. I think Greg Sinki and the SEC university 128 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: presidents namely knew that once they expanded, the Big. 129 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: Ten was going to answer. 130 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: You know why, because the Big ten has the power 131 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: to the Big Ten's is the only conference out there. 132 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: And think we all know this by now that. 133 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: Had the power to go out and get a USC 134 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: or UCLA just grab the LA market. But now both 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: of them, as Chris said, are at sixteen. At least 136 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: in the future they will be at sixteen. Do we 137 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: think they're stopping there? Because As Chris mentioned, there have 138 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: been reports that the SEC and the Big Ten for 139 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: that matter, are perfectly willing to just stay put. I 140 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: would have said, stand pat. I've never really known what 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that means. We got a pat working down the hallway here, 142 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: but does he stand a lot. No, he's a sitter 143 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: more than a standard. People use to work in their 144 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: cubicles different ways. But I kind of believe that if 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: neither one of them makes another move, I think both 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: of them are happy to stay at sixteen with the caveat. 147 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear about this, that Notre 148 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Dame could change everything. So if Notre Dame were to 149 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: decide tomorrow that they wanted to join either of them, 150 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: probably be the Big Ten. But if they wanted to 151 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: join either of them, then yes, there would probably be 152 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: a counter move from the SEC. But if that doesn't happen, 153 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: then think about this with me for a second. The SEC, 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: I think, would be the last one to just want 155 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: to preemptively at this point make more moves, and I'll 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: tell you why. That would force Notre Dame into the 157 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Big Ten. Probably would force Notre Dame into Big Ten. 158 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: The SEC has no interest in that, you think, Greg 159 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: sinking and the SEC want to see the big ten 160 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: get Notre Dame. Of course they don't, so why would 161 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: they make moves now when they're perfectly fine at sixteen 162 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: that would force that move. I don't think they'll do that. 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to do that. Could be wrong, 164 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: could be other factors in play. I don't think they 165 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: want to do that. But here's the more overarching issue. 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I actually believe these guys when they do say they 167 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: care about the best interest of the sport long term. 168 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: That's where I think a lot of us differ. I 169 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: think some of you, rightfully so, have become jaded at 170 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: the overall direction of the sport because you've looked at 171 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: some of the decision making and now you've looked at 172 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: it in a linear fashion, and you say, okay, here 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: hear every step of the way these decisions being made 174 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: scream one thing, greed, money hungry, couldn't care less about 175 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the tradition. We'll throw it in the wood chip or 176 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: if it means that we advance financially, And. 177 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: I get that. 178 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: What I would counter with is what if there is 179 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: sort of a happy medium here where there are two 180 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I guess you could call them truths that converge. One 181 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: of the truths is they do care about college football. 182 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: The other truth is there were some inevitabilities coming. And 183 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: I think COVID kind of put this in fast forward, 184 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: but I think it was already going to come. But 185 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot of programs realize long term, we're going to 186 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: make a move, the sport is going to shift its 187 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: inevitable Nil COVID the portal, like a lot of things 188 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: have happened over the past twelve twenty four to thirty 189 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: six months, if you will, I think a lot of 190 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: them realized, if it's going to happen eventually, why not 191 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: just have it happen immediately. And so there were a 192 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: certain amount of moves that were going to be made, 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: so they just got made. If we've seen a majority 194 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: of the moves get made, you know, I'm kind of 195 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: wish casting here, as they would say in meteorology. But 196 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: what if we've seen a majority of the moves made, 197 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: and what if just what if the power players are 198 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: sitting around the table right now saying are you good? 199 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Because I mean, if you're good, I'm good. 200 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Now. 201 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: We don't want to burn the entire sport to the 202 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: ground because of the whole mansion city metaphor that we 203 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: use on Lake Kick a lot. The mansion city metaphor 204 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: is just that that it doesn't matter if you build 205 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: the greatest mansion in the city, if the rest of 206 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: the city burns down around the mansion, the mansion doesn't 207 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: have any property value because it's in a terrible city 208 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: no one wants to move to. They're no resources, no 209 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: civil services, et cetera. College football is the same way. 210 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think Greg Sanki's an idiot. 211 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 212 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Jim Save Jim Delaney. It's Kevin Warren listed as the 213 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Big Ten commissioner. I just think a lot more players 214 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: are in the room. They're in the Big Ten. I 215 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: don't think those guys are idiots. And I don't think 216 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: they look around and say, who cares if the PAC 217 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: twelve or the ACC exists. 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: It's all about us. 219 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: That's just I think it's a short sighted way to 220 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: look at things. If you and I were playing monopoly, 221 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: yes that's how I would play against you. I want 222 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: you to lose. I want to bankrupt you. I do 223 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: not think Greg Sanki. I do not think Kevin Warren. 224 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: I do not think television networks want to bankrupt other 225 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: conferences because, like I said, it does not matter how 226 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: big they build their mansions. If it coincides with burning 227 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: down the city in which the mansion is placed. 228 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Then the mansion's not worth anything anymore. 229 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: If college football conferences build themselves up, but they're existing 230 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: on a foundation of college football overall, but then the 231 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: foundation starts to erode, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because 232 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: those television networks are not getting return on their investment 233 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: because you've had a critical mass of people leave the 234 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: sport because what they grew up on is no longer there, 235 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: so they can't afford that. So, yes, I do, Chris 236 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: believe that when people tell you via reports that they're 237 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: happy at sixteen, I do believe that doesn't mean that 238 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: there couldn't be other moves. I just think that means 239 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: if they had their way, there wouldn't be other mens moves. 240 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Next up, interesting question coming up. Interesting question here from David. 241 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: David asks what makes a great college town? How would 242 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: you design the town around Pate State? Well, that's a 243 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: very good way to word the follow up there, how 244 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: would you design the town around Peate State? To me, 245 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: what makes a great college town is? I ask myself 246 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: a few questions. First question, is the university the heartbeat 247 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: of the town. If you took the university out of 248 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: the town, would the town cease to exist. 249 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Auburn, Alabama wouldn't be. 250 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: There if it weren't for Auburn University. Athens, George is 251 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: not there if it's not for the University of Georgia. 252 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: But Columbia South Carolina is there. Even if you remove 253 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: the University of South Carolina, it wouldn't be the same town. 254 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: I got you on that part. 255 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: But Baton Rouge, Louisiana would be there if it weren't 256 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: for LSU. That's why I view Athens and Auburn as 257 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: more college towns than say Columbia or Baton Rouge. Columbus, 258 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Ohio is still there even if Ohio State is not. 259 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: Although Columbus Ohio is made all the better because of 260 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State. So or excuse me the Ohio State. 261 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: Shame on me. 262 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: So the first thing is, yes, the university has to 263 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: be the heartbeat. It has to be what the rest 264 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: of the town just kind of orbits around. Secondly, when 265 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: I walk down the street, how informed is the average 266 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: citizen in that town on the inner workings of the university, 267 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: athletically and otherwise. How much can they tell you about 268 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: the school? Because if I walk down the street, for example, 269 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: in those college towns, I'm mentioning ones in the South 270 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: because I grew up in the South. 271 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: If I walk down. 272 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: The street, if I go to Tumor's Corner in Auburn, Alabama, 273 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: everybody there knows things about Auburn, even if they didn't 274 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: go there, they're not employed there. Even if they just 275 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: work at a gas station there, if they work at 276 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: a shell station on the corner of College and Magnolia, 277 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: they will still know things about Auburn. Because you can't 278 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: live in Auburn, Alabama and not know about Auburn. But 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: if you live in Austin, Texas, you could live there 280 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: and not really care at all about the University of 281 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: Texas just happens to be where you reside. The third 282 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: thing is do people nationally correlate the town with the university? 283 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: So this is probably the best test to be honest 284 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: with you. If I were to ask someone in Charlotte, 285 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: North Carolina, they have to be college fans, I guess, 286 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: But what do you think when you think Lincoln, Nebraska. 287 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: They're going to say, oh, that's where University of Nebraska is. 288 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: But if I ask someone in Charlotte about Los Angeles, 289 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: they won't mention USC or UCLA in their top ten 290 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: list of feedback of impressions they have about LA. So 291 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I want the reputation nationally of the town to be 292 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: centered around the university. I want the town itself to 293 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: be centered around the university, and then certainly the average 294 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: citizen there. It has to be so ingrained in the 295 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: DNA and the culture that even the average citizen, no 296 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: matter if they're connected to the university or not feel 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: connected to the university. That is what makes a college town. 298 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't like neutral site games with 299 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: very few exceptions, because I like going to college towns 300 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: in the fall. And I also think that it's something 301 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: unique we have. Everybody can have a stadium in a 302 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: big city. Every big city has big stadiums, every big 303 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: city has pro sports teams. But you know in Tuscaloose, Alabama, bamus, 304 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: what they got in Knoxville, Tennessee, Tennessee football is what 305 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: they got. 306 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: That is a good thing. That's a unique thing to 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: our sport. 308 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: It's why you should never be leaving campuses to go 309 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: play football games. This is not Major League Baseball. They 310 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: don't give you one hundred and sixty two of them 311 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a year. You don't get eighty one home games a year. 312 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: You get seven, maybe eight if you schedule really aggressively. 313 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: So have them on campus, especially if you're in a 314 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: college town. Next up, this is kind of another it's 315 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: kind of another question that's off the field, but boy, 316 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: it resonates. I bet it resonates with all of you. 317 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: Blake asked, what would you suggest to the listeners to 318 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: say to their family members to help them understand they 319 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: want to watch more games than those that just include 320 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: their teams. Now this is foreign language to some of you, 321 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: but to others out there. I bet there's someone driving 322 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: around right now in Dayton, Ohio that just slammed on 323 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: the brakes, pulled over to the side of the road 324 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: and said, is he talking to me? 325 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: Does that listener know me? 326 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Some of you have dealt with this before, and those 327 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: of you who haven't dealt with it, here's what it 328 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: looks like. You may have an uncle or a dad, 329 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: or a cousin or a brother or a friend even 330 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: who is Let's say they're a Cincinnati fan, but they 331 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: only want to watch Cincinnati games. 332 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: They don't care about the rest of the sport. 333 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: Ou In Texas playing earlier that day, don't care USC 334 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Notre Dame playing later that night, do not care Oregon 335 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: versus Washington, never heard of her. They just want to 336 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: watch Cincinnati. And he you sit there incredulous, and you're saying, oool. 337 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: This is the greatest. 338 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: Sport on earth. 339 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: How could you not want to watch all of it? 340 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Some people just have their taste. Now, I think this 341 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: is more prevalent in pro sports. Like I'm a Braves fan, 342 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't watch a whole lot of non Braves related 343 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. But in college sports, even if it's basketball, man, 344 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm watching the whole sport. 345 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Certainly in college football. 346 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: It's not just cause they pay me to do it, 347 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: because I watched all of the sport long before they 348 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: paid me to do it. 349 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: That's not a job. You guys do the same thing 350 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: I do. 351 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: And I know ninety nine percent of you who are 352 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast don't have this issue, but some 353 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: of you have the issue within your social circle or 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: family circle. So here's what I would tell them, and 355 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make this up. Let's just say your 356 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: dad only wants to watch his team, and then there's 357 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: nothing else out there as far as he's concerned. The 358 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: way I had to explain it one time, and the 359 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: way I would explain it to dad is if you 360 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: live in the greatest city in the country when it 361 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: comes to the culinary scene. Now I got into it 362 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: with Lance here. I mean I trolled him as hard 363 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: as any humans ever controlled the other night about the 364 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: culinary scene in New York City. We were in LA 365 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: last week to weeks ago. Great food, some of the 366 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: greatest food I've ever eaten. If you live in a 367 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: huge city that has all the options, why would you 368 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: just go to the same restaurant every day? Why would 369 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: you do that to yourself. I'm not saying the restaurant's 370 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: not good. In fact, maybe you're going to the best 371 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: restaurant in town. But why would you only limit yourself 372 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: to that restaurant. 373 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: If we would have just gone and eat sushi out 374 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: in LA, it would have been great. 375 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: And trust me, yours truly, I wear the same shirt 376 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: every day. You don't think I could eat the same 377 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: food every day? Absolutely I could but even I throw 378 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: on a different colored shirt every now and then, even 379 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I order from a different place every now and then, 380 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: just because why would you want to limit yourself when 381 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: there are other great options? This is not cheesecake factory. 382 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I go there, I want the cheesecake. They got a 383 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: good menu, but I want the cheese cake. There was 384 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: a sole purpose for why people go there. It's literally 385 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: written on the billboard on the Marquee out front. But 386 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: if you live in an entire city, and you have 387 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: an entire city's worth the food options to choose from, 388 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: why would you limit yourself? And the second thing is 389 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: you could entice them with non football related activity. 390 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: You could say, Dad, do you like money? Money? Does 391 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: that interest you? Dad? 392 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: I'll probably say yes. Spoiler alert If you say, you 393 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: know you can bet on all these games? You don't 394 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: just have to bet on Cincinnati, you can bet on 395 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: all these games. I don't think it should ever resort 396 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: to that. Personally, it should have gotten him on board 397 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: when you just gave the food metaphor. 398 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: But here's the third one. 399 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: If you really want to tuck at that heartstring, here's 400 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the third one. College football is the best melting pot 401 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: culturally that we have, and I dare you to find 402 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: me another one. This country, like our society, you could 403 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: find division all over the place. But have you walked 404 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: into a college stadium, Have you walked into a college bar? 405 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: Have you walked into an environment where they're watching college football? 406 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: Feel yourself a favor. Actually, don't do this at all, 407 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: but pretend you're doing this. If you were to go 408 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: around that room and ask people their food preferences, their 409 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: political preferences, their musical tastes, you would find the most 410 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: diverse group of people on planet Earth watching college football. 411 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Because it's not just in the South, it's not just 412 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: in the. 413 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: North, it's everywhere. 414 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: It may be bigger in some places than others, but 415 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: I can attest to this because I witness it every week. 416 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: You should see my inbox, Like my inbox is the 417 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: greatest melting pot of people because they watch the greatest sport, 418 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: which is the greatest melting pot in our society on 419 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: the face of the earth, not just our society ethic 420 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: on the face of the earth. You don't get a 421 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: better collection of people. So you dip your spoon into 422 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the college football serial Bowl, you pull everything out. Everything 423 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: imaginable comes out. And that's not a bad thing. That's 424 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: a very good thing. It's so eclectic, like there is 425 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: nothing you can't have. I don't know how you can 426 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: hate that. The only thing that you could hate about 427 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: that is this comes after it. That was steeing from 428 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: the rafters. As director Colin just told me over the PA. 429 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: No one in the control room saw the ad toss coming, 430 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: so I know you didn't. Let's move on, been victimized, 431 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Let's move on next up, Chris, Chris said, 432 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: do you like? Actually, he didn't say do you like 433 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: at all? Chris said, do you you know what? Chris 434 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: didn't say that either. We're not stopping either. We're just 435 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: gonna roll with this. Chris said, why do you think 436 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: people want Oklahoma to fall off so badly? I've heard 437 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: plenty of people say they'll never be the same after 438 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, even though they had plenty of success before him. 439 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: Is it jealousy perhaps? Or something else? Is something else afoot? 440 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: Chris didn't say a foot. I just wanted to fit 441 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: it into the question. 442 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 2: There is that hate? Is that disrespect? Like? 443 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to have watched Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. 444 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: I know everyone's hot one way or the other about. 445 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Him right now, but can you not at least imagine 446 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: that an unbiased, just neutral observer, Let's say a Michigan 447 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: State fan. Is it hard to believe a Michigan State 448 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: fan could look at Oklahoma and the success they had 449 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: under Riley and he leaves and they didn't want him 450 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: to leave, and now they're getting a guy who's never 451 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: been a head coach in a football game before. Is 452 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: it not reasonable that that person could maybe expect them 453 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: to fall off. 454 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they have to, and it. 455 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't really mean the Michigan State fan would be upset 456 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: if they got proven wrong. I think it's reasonable to 457 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: have some people expect that, though, So I don't think 458 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: it's hate. I don't think people are rooting for Oklahoma 459 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: to fall off. Your rivals are, yeah, certainly, But nationally 460 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you that if you were to sample 461 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: size the college football public, most people were kind of 462 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: empathetic to Oklahoma on that whole deal. They viewed Oklahoma 463 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: as being left out in the cold, and they viewed 464 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley as running off to the West coast and whatever, whatever, whatever. 465 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone was left with a bitter 466 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: taste in their mouth about the Oklahoma program that didn't 467 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: already have it before. And I also don't think anyone's 468 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: looking at him rooting for them to fail. 469 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Quite the opposite. 470 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: Actually, Oklahoma, am I think I'm right on that. Yes, 471 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma seems to be one of the more approved of programs. 472 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: I guess, for lack of a better term, in the country. 473 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: Their Q score, as we would say in media, I 474 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: think Oklahoma's Q score is pretty high. And when I 475 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: say that, I don't mean everyone's rooting for them. 476 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: I just don't. 477 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't walk around every street corner in Nashville or 478 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: back home in Georgia and hear someone say, hey, Josh, 479 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: how you doing. 480 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: Boy? 481 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: I hope Oklahoma bites it this year, dude, I hope 482 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: they fall off a cliff. 483 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: Can't stand the Sooners Why. I don't know, man, it's 484 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: just ingrained and me I was born with And I 485 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: don't really don't get that from many people. 486 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: They say it about Texas, they say it about Bama, 487 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: they say it about Ohio State, Notre Dame. They don't 488 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: don't think they say that about Oklahoma. So you know, 489 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: I've lived in a couple of different areas of the country. 490 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: I've never gathered that sentiment. I don't gather that sentiment now, 491 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: and I deal with people all over the country regularly. 492 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: I hear from fans all over the country. I think 493 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: there is a healthy amount of skepticism, which is different 494 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: than disrespect or doubt. I think there may be some 495 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: skepticism of people wondering whether Brint Venables, a long time 496 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: co ordinator, is going to come in and just seamlessly 497 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: carry on at the same rate winning rate that Lincoln 498 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: Riley was. But that's natural if you were not an 499 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma fan, Like, for instance, when when Nick Saban leaves Alabama, 500 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't even care who the replacement is, it could 501 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: be Brent Vennables. 502 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: You would look. 503 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: At that and you would say, dude, they're going to 504 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: fall off. Well, yeah, they're losing the best of all time. 505 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not equating Riley to sab and I'm just making 506 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: a point. Would you be hating Alabama when you said that, 507 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: or would you just be being honest with yourself. I 508 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: think the latter is true there, so I don't really 509 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: look at it as hate. I don't see it that way, 510 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: nor do I see it as disrespect. I think Oklahoma's 511 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: very respected as a program. I just think there's healthy skepticism. 512 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: There may be some fans in Oklahoma circles who are 513 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: rooting for Brenton Venables. They love the dude, but even 514 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: you're looking at him saying, all right, now he's got 515 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: to prove it. 516 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: Obviously, he's got to prove it. That's fair. I think 517 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: that's what's unfair. 518 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: Actually, is to heap all that expectation on him when 519 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't coached the game yet. I know that's unpopular 520 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: to say everyone wants to win, but if we're being 521 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: reasonable keyword, they're reasonable, then let's give them a little time. 522 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: Next up, I saw a headline last night that actually 523 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: perfectly coincides with this question. Michael asked, are the quality 524 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: of teams facilities as important of an asset in recruiting 525 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: as they once were? 526 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: Nope, I don't think they are. 527 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: And what Michael's asking for is because in the nil era, 528 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: now you've heard more than a few coaches on the record, 529 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: and I've had way more of them off the record, 530 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: confine in me. We probably spent way too much on facilities. 531 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: It's nice to have them it's good to show off 532 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: on a recruiting trip. Lane Kiffin spoke about this recently, 533 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: that you can recruit a guy as good as you 534 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: possibly could. You could have all the facilities, you could 535 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: have the academic plan in place. But ultimately, I'm looking 536 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: at one of our b roll shots right now. Someone's 537 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: got a boxing ring. That's nice, But ultimately, lane Kiffin said, 538 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: a school could come in that has even recruited that 539 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: guy ten minutes before his commitment. They could come in 540 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: and if they offer more money, he's going there in 541 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: the nil. It could be legal. It's not even illegal, 542 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: it's not even underhanded. And lane Kiffin what he's saying 543 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: there is the answer to this question. If it takes money, 544 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: if that's the language, just straightforward now not indirectly. If 545 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: it's just straightforward cash, that's winning the recruiting battle. Now, 546 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: why would you take that cash and invest it in 547 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: physical assets like facilities? For example, No one ever built 548 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: a waterfall or a boxing ring or an arcade in 549 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: their facilities cause they needed it. 550 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: Of course, you don't need it. 551 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: They put them in there to give themselves a leg 552 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: up in recruiting, so that when a kid goes there, 553 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: and then six months later, he's comparing his experiences as 554 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: it's time to commit. He remembers those few extra bells 555 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: and whistles you had, and it's enough to put you 556 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: over the top. 557 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 558 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: But if that doesn't matter anymore, if you could just 559 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: put a check in front of that player, then you 560 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: no longer in that stuff. You tell your boosters who 561 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: are associated with your collective, Guys, we don't need these 562 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: nine figure facility upgrades anymore. 563 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: We need you to take. 564 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Those funds and we need you to put them in 565 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: this collective so that we can pull out of that 566 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: collective and just give the kid the money directly. That's 567 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: like if this company wanted to offer me a trip 568 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: to Lake Tahoe, I would turn it down and say 569 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: give me the cash equivalent of that trip to Lake Tahoe, 570 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: and I'll just go buy supplements from Vitamin Shop or 571 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: Vitamin Shoppy. They do have an E on the end 572 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: of shop. So that's the way I would do that. 573 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: And I think that's the way that a lot of 574 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: universities moving forward are going to look at this. 575 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: Now here's the downside to that. 576 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: I think some of these places have already been spending 577 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: big on facilities year over year. 578 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: So we're looking at Bama. 579 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: If you're watching the individual clip on YouTube, we're looking 580 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: at Bama. We looked at Oklahoma a second ago, like 581 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee recently upgraded. Oregon's always looked like a spaceship. So 582 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these places have recently upgraded. So those 583 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: facilities are going to look good for a lot long time, 584 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: even if you never touch them again. Some places like Miami, 585 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: some places like Florida, they are in need of upgrade. 586 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: Now. 587 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: I know that process is ongoing there. I know they're 588 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: well underway in doing that. But think about if you 589 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: were already behind and now we're entering an era where 590 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: you need to redirect funding. You're going to have facilities 591 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: that look thirty years old ten years from now because 592 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: they kind of will be. And you're also not directing 593 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: any new funding into facility enhancements. And some of these 594 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: other places they had upgraded more recently, so their stuff's 595 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: going to look new for a while. That's not a 596 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: good place to be because while facilities will not be 597 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: what wins a recruiting battle, they do help because it 598 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: makes an impression on the player. Also, at some point 599 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: just the functionality of what you can do as a player, 600 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: especially in recovery. The more sports science see aspect of this, 601 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: like the cryo chambers and the recovery tubs and all 602 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: that stuff you have, which some places have in some 603 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: places don't that actually impacts my day to day as 604 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: a player, So that stuff would matter to me. I 605 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: don't care about your waterfalls. They're pretty to look at, 606 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: they look good in my Instagram story. But some of 607 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: the health and medical that actually matters to me. So no, 608 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't think facilities are as important. They always will 609 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: be important, but the money will forever be important. Let's 610 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: talk about everyone's favorite university, the University of Texas. Rushi asked, 611 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: does Texas regain confidence after Bama steam rolls them week 612 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: two or do we see the downfall of that locker room? Well, 613 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: this is a prediction there so, unless Rushi has seen 614 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: the spoilers, Texas does welcome Alabama into Austin in week two. 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I have a sneaking suspicion that the Every Given Saturday 616 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Tour will be in Austin, Texas in week two, although 617 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: that is not official, but I have strong suspicion, and 618 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: I know the guy who coordinates it. 619 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: So we'll see about that. 620 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Bama's going to be favored. Their current line is sixteen. 621 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: They're currently a sixteen point favorite over Texas. So yes, 622 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: this is not a wild out on a limb prediction. 623 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Let's say they do win by seventeen to twenty one points. 624 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: So let's say it's a thirty seven to seventeen thirty 625 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: seven to twenty Alabama. 626 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: When that would be. 627 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Right around what Vegas would expect. That would be a 628 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: setback for the University of Texas. And then the great 629 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: question is I don't know, because that is what I 630 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: go back on last year in that Ou Texas game, 631 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Texas gets this big lead on Oklahoma. You all remember it. 632 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: We were there. You all were either there or watching 633 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: the game yourself. Texas gets out to a big lead, 634 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: a four score lead, think it was. It was either 635 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot, it was a big lead, That's what it was. 636 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: And so then Ou storms all the way back. They 637 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: win fifty five to forty eight. You remember that part. 638 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: But then afterwards, another loss, another loss, another loss, another loss, 639 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: another loss. 640 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: That lost to. 641 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Oklahoma was the beginning of a one two, three, four, 642 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: five six game losing streak and Steve Sarkesian since then 643 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: has gone on record as saying, we kind of lost 644 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: the team after that game, and I don't think we 645 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: ever got him back. 646 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: Now. 647 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: They weren't getting blown out, it's one too. I mean 648 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: four of the next five losses were by one possession, 649 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: it looks like so they weren't getting blown out, they 650 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: just weren't closing. Remember how many turnover issues they had 651 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: and second half issues they had. And Sarkas said, I 652 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: attribute that to losing to Oklahoma and our guys not 653 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: being mentally tough enough. And he's taking responsibility for it. 654 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: He's not blaming the players. But that's what has to change. 655 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: You know. 656 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: That's one of those great year one to year two tests. 657 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: It's not just a soup. It's not a birthright that 658 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: once you've been at a place a year everything magically 659 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: gets better. Normally it improves year one to year two 660 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: under a quality staff at least, because that's about how 661 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: long it takes before doing the right things starts to 662 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: tangibly give results. So if sark walked in there and 663 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: he was doing all the right things, it was always 664 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: going to take at least a year. If he's doing 665 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: the right things, if they're handling business behind the scenes. 666 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: Even if Bama beats him this year, you'll see them 667 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: rebound and if they haven't done the right thing, then 668 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: you'll turn on the Texas versus UTSA game the next 669 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: week and it'll be seventeen to sixteen, early fourth quarter 670 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: and you'll be saying, what did Alabama do to Texas? 671 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: There will be your answer. Here's the downfall. If this 672 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: is the case, it will be a disastrous season if 673 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: they're not mentally tough enough to bounce back, because they 674 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: still have ten games after the Alabama game. Now, there 675 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: is this other path they could take. You know, they 676 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: could beat Alabama. We didn't end the podcast. I'm just 677 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: pausing so you can laugh. I know a lot of you. 678 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: If I know you like I think I do, you're 679 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: laughing right now. I just need to remind you kids, 680 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: the last time Alabama went to the state of Texas, 681 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: they were favored by more than they will be in Austin. 682 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: They came back totan to now, so it could happen, 683 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: ap Angels and Alfield, it could happen. Unlikely maybe, but 684 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: it could happen. And even with being a double digit 685 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: underdog at home, Texas over under win total is still nine. 686 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Think about it, that's pretty lofty. So I think it's 687 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: the great unknotned. I think regardless of if even if 688 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: they lose Tobama by three points or thirty points, how 689 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: they respond there will go so far in proving whether 690 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian's formula and his model is working in Austin. 691 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much for being tuned in. 692 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Here's all we need because I got one more question 693 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: here and I want to kind of dovetail it with 694 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: telling you what we need. Alex asked the question, would 695 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: you peel back the curtain and explain some more of 696 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: the benefits of owning Late Kick. We're excited to see 697 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: where the show goes from here. I'd love to hear 698 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: about what you're now able to do without having to 699 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: get approval or cutting red tape. 700 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Alex is from Snellville. 701 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Georgia, by the way, So the appreciation is because we're 702 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: able to do this because of you. The other night, 703 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: as I said, we made a lot of big announcements 704 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: on Lake Kick, and one of them is this podcast feed. 705 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to this show in right now. It's ours 706 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: now that wasn't the case a month ago. The YouTube 707 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: channel ours now, that wasn't the case a month ago. 708 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean the name of the whole thing literally changed 709 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: to late Kick from twenty four to seven. The benefit 710 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: there is that ten years from now, no matter where 711 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I am, I don't know who my employer will be 712 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: ten years from now or five years from now, that 713 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: channel will be with us. 714 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: That's the benefit. 715 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter where we go, podcast feed, no matter where 716 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: we go, and that is worth its weight in whatever's 717 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: more valuable than gold these days. It's worth its weight 718 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: in that thing. So that's the first thing. The second 719 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: thing is the minute that we got that approval, we 720 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: were free to do things like, for example, open the 721 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: merchandising line, which we will have this Friday. I mean, 722 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: we've had a million ideas, everything from late Get gear 723 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: to PAYT State gear, probably more than a million ideas. 724 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: We can hit go on that this Friday and we will, 725 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: so look out for that link through the store starting 726 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: this Friday. So a whole lot goes into that. It's boring. 727 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bore you with it, but just know 728 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: it's because of you. So the only favor we need 729 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: is for you to keep doing what you're doing. There's 730 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: nothing new. Subscribe if you haven't already. More than fifty 731 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: percent of our listeners and viewers are not subscribed through 732 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: this odfeed and to the YouTube channel. It's free and 733 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: all it does is help us do what we've been doing, 734 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: and we'll continue to do so. 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I'm not messing around when 742 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: I tell you thank you five times every show. 743 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: That's it. 744 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: You are the envy of the rest of our industry 745 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: because there are other places out there paying millions of 746 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: dollars to get what we have for free. 747 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: Because what we have is you, guys. We got us, 748 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: and us, as it turns out, really is all we need. 749 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for that. We're producer Jesse, 750 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: We're director Colin. For our entire crew here, I'm Josh Pate. 751 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Have yourself a great rest of your day. And God 752 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: bless