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Speaker 2: We're not gonna have Brian Dable with you today, Begause,

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Speaker 2: Bob Pop and I are gonna sit down with him

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Speaker 2: on Saturday morning after the team has been in Munich

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Speaker 2: point thirty. We're gonna talk to Jude mecatom Day about

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Speaker 2: his surprise appearance last week kicking for the Giants. Of course,

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Speaker 2: lead off with Jude mcatmney and now we're joined by

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Speaker 2: Giants kicker Jude mcatomney.

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Speaker 3: Jude, how are you man? Doing good?

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Speaker 4: Doing good?

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Speaker 3: All right? Jude, so let's start here.

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Speaker 2: What was last week like for you get you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a last second we need you to kick

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Speaker 2: on a Friday when when Joseph got hurt and you

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Speaker 2: kind of had to ramp up quickly. What was that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, it was fun. I've been preparing to kick

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Speaker 4: every week anyway, even though I haven't been so I

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Speaker 4: think it's that that stuck to me when my name

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Speaker 4: And let's say, and I felt out I was ready

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I know previously when when when they brought

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Speaker 2: a chance there. Did that almost help mentally prepare yourself

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Speaker 4: In the year. Yeah, definitely, because I was thinking in

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Speaker 4: my own head I would have got a chance before.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I done more guy, but I feel that stood

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Speaker 3: And then game day.

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Speaker 2: How would the nerves, how'd you kind of get yourself ready,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I had the morning nerves, you know, But

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Speaker 4: stuck to my pregame routine and once I got into that,

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Speaker 4: everything just kind of flows, you know, and and the

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Speaker 3: Once the first kick went through. Is that a big like.

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Speaker 4: A Yeah, I think that happens in every game. Your

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Speaker 2: Now, I know the Giants have had you, They're trying

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's just experience of being around the guys,

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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that Graham has tried

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Speaker 4: But yeah, just finding your process and sticking to it

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of it mental and confidence and

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Speaker 4: But he says that he's such a good mindset and

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Speaker 2: So how pumped you to head a head over to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it obviously all the international games.

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Speaker 4: I feel it promotes the NFL internationally and it's really

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Speaker 3: So how did you find NFL football. What's your story.

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Speaker 2: You played Gaelic football, I know, right, So how did

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Speaker 4: I had a friend, David Shanahan, who committed to college

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Speaker 4: because you can, you can become professional at this. So

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Speaker 4: I just decided to give it a go and ultimately

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Speaker 2: Is it kind of funny me look back that you

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's very unique.

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Speaker 4: I was happy about it because I was familiar with

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Speaker 2: Now you were born and raised in Derry, Correct, in

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Speaker 2: Northern Ireland. You played You have six brothers, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, six brothers one sister.

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Speaker 2: What was that like with your six brothers and your

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Speaker 2: dad was a Gillick football.

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Speaker 4: It was my whole life. I've always been evolved around sports,

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Speaker 4: Like everyone in my family played sports at some capacity

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I just love playing sport. I loved everything about it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: well they see me kicking in American football, they can't

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go on a limit.

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Speaker 2: Say, a lot of our listeners probably don't know what

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Speaker 3: Is it like Australia rules football? Is it like rugby?

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Speaker 3: But was that your role in Gaelic football? Is that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, they they thought it was crazy because first

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Speaker 2: Last week, quick, how did they react to your you

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Speaker 3: I would even able to come in and see it,

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Speaker 3: Like how how how that old?

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Speaker 4: I think I found out I was kicking on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: So they were they were probably as shocked as I was,

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Speaker 4: But no, I mean they were they were just happy

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Speaker 4: they're honestly just happy to see me get an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you like Dyna start tackling guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, now it's time for our look at the

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Speaker 2: And now we're joined by, in my opinion, the top

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Speaker 3: He covers them for the Athletic. He is Joe Person. Joe.

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Speaker 3: We got John Schmelk up here and he's brother for

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Speaker 3: New Jersey. How are you today? Man?

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I look forward to seeing you out

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Speaker 2: there in Munich. Do you have any big plans? You

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm taking My wife are seventeen year

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Mingo just what they drafted him one

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Speaker 4: You loved her, You're good at it, so you started

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 5: tackle at BYU, like that is really his most natural position.

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Speaker 5: But he'd been playing center for these guys until I

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Speaker 5: Kwantu got hurt. And you know, Christiansen was, I was

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Speaker 5: talking to him this week about facing Brian Burns and

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Speaker 5: just you know, as all these guys have a ton

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Speaker 5: of respect for Brian burn but so best left had.

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Speaker 5: My guess is that would be Christiansen at left tackle,

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Speaker 5: the place of the Kwanu. I don't think Adam Deeeling's

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Speaker 5: gonna play. I mean, this hamstring has just lingered on

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Speaker 5: and I think I have to think some of it

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Speaker 5: jumps with the fact that, you know, thirty four year

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Speaker 5: old soft tissue injuries that don't heal as well as

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Speaker 5: you know, a twenty one year old kid who pulled

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Speaker 5: a hamstring. So probably no Adam Feeling again, we're taping

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Speaker 5: this on Wednesday. H Yeah. Other than that, though, they're

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Speaker 5: they're pretty healthy. I mean, you know, they lost, they're

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Speaker 5: all Pro. Really, they're only their best defensive player, Pro

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Speaker 5: Bold defensive tackle Derek Brown went down in Week one.

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Speaker 5: He's out for the year. But yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. The defense has not been good. That most

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Speaker 5: of the injuries have happened on the defensive side of

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Speaker 5: the football, and they're you know that they are threatening

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Speaker 5: to the all time NFL record at least modern day

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Speaker 5: points allowed in a season. So I know the Giants

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Speaker 5: don't score a lot, so this is I don't know

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Speaker 5: if this is the immovable force against the immovable I'm

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Speaker 5: screwing up my chemistry terms, but I think you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Yeah, something's got to give. Weekend

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Speaker 3: in Munich.

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Speaker 2: One more question about the defense real quick, jac Horn.

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Speaker 2: I think he's your other kind of Himagenavian Clowney. I

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Speaker 2: suppose you are two really best players on defense. Is

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Speaker 2: Horn someone that they're going to man up and travel

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Speaker 2: with the other team's best wide receiver or is he

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Speaker 2: going to stay mostly on one side of the field.

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Speaker 5: You know they kind of mix and match that most

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Speaker 5: of the time they just leave him on one side

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Speaker 5: of the field. But you know, you do wonder if

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Speaker 5: he will take particular interest in covering the league neighbors

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Speaker 5: this weekend. I don't know that they might, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: horn Hornt a good player. He had an injury, like

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Speaker 5: he was starting very quickly to get the reputation of

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Speaker 5: just being injury from him because he was and he

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Speaker 5: stayed healthy this year so far. I think he's like

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Speaker 5: the top five top six in the league in terms

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Speaker 5: of past breakups. He only has one interception, but he's

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Speaker 5: a good player and he's pretty good against the run too.

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Speaker 5: So their other corner not so much. She's kind of

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Speaker 5: a journeyman, Mike Jackson. He was with Canalis and some

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Speaker 5: of these guys out in Seattle and when they had

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Speaker 5: an injury in training camp, they kind of went and

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Speaker 5: got him as they fill in. He's done okay, but

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Speaker 5: certainly j C. Horde it's their premier corner and easily so.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Evan Neil and Ikiakwan, who have been

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Speaker 2: on similar journeys in their first two and a half

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Speaker 2: years in the Heachtal Football League. How's his progress been? Obviously,

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Speaker 2: evani Ol right now is a backup for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: He has not been able to get back onto the

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Speaker 2: field after injuries knocked him out last year and end

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Speaker 2: of the season very early.

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Speaker 3: I Kwan, who's hurt?

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Speaker 2: I know, his production hasn't been as good as the

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Speaker 2: Panthers would have liked the at with him in terms

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Speaker 2: of his progress as a guy they hope would be

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Speaker 2: Brce Young's franchise left tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're okay with him. I don't. And

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Speaker 5: he's been better this year before before this ankle injury.

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Speaker 5: He still hasn't been you know, and not gonna remind

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Speaker 5: anyone of Andrew Whitworth or some franchise left tackle. But

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Speaker 5: but he has been better. Uh, and it was pretty

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Speaker 5: good as a rookie in twenty two after being a

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Speaker 5: top ten pick. I don't. I don't think they're going

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Speaker 5: to make left tackle the priority in the offseason. I

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Speaker 5: think they're I think they're gonna keep rolling with a

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Speaker 5: Kwan who they just have so many other holes, Bill,

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Speaker 5: I mean, they did not exist at pass rush. I

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Speaker 5: was looking at this up today. Ryan burns five sacks

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Speaker 5: and I know he's not even a sack leader at

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Speaker 5: the Giant, but those five sacks represent more than all

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Speaker 5: of the current Panthers drushers combined. They ah, wow, and

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Speaker 5: they have another guy to cut but even with even

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Speaker 5: if you count him, they have five and a half

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Speaker 5: sacked among all their edge rushers, and Burns of course

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Speaker 5: as five himself. So it's you know, Clowney's been a

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Speaker 5: bit of a disappointment. He played played better last week

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Speaker 5: against the Saints, and he'd been hurt, so maybe he

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Speaker 5: was playing hurt. But they need him and frankly somebody

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Speaker 5: else to get after Daniel Jones if they're going to

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Speaker 5: win this game in Munich. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, final question, Brian Burns. You mentioned him twice already.

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Speaker 2: We talked to him today and one of them Beat

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Speaker 2: writers asked him whether or not he thought when he

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Speaker 2: sounded with the Giants he'd be going from one team

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Speaker 2: that was two and seven to another team that was

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Speaker 2: two and seven. He kind of laughed and he said, no,

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Speaker 2: not really. But he's a really good dude man, Like

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Speaker 2: I've been very impressed with how he handed himself in

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Speaker 2: the locker room. Is taking a leadership role right away.

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Speaker 2: Just an all around good dude for a guy that

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Speaker 2: has such star.

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Speaker 3: Qualities and traits.

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Speaker 2: He's playing through injury, he's banged up, he's playing through it,

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Speaker 2: not complaining about it. Just what a five star guy, Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, putting even the player stuff aside.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like covering him. He just just like you said,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he he'd always make time for you. Just

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Speaker 5: interesting guy and not afraid to say what's on his mind.

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Speaker 5: Uh did I did? I don't know, did a story

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Speaker 5: one year And why I'm telling you this, but he

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Speaker 5: has a brother that played for the Panthers, Stanley mclover,

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Speaker 5: who I guess technically a half brother, but they're you know,

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Speaker 5: very close. Uh, and so I just did something on

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Speaker 5: their bond and and kind of mcclover after he retired,

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Speaker 5: he'd kind of, you know, gotten in kind of a

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Speaker 5: dark place kind of mental health wise, and was a

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Speaker 5: little depressed and he kind of found his his vibe

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Speaker 5: again when when Brian was like a high school junior

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Speaker 5: or senior, when Burns was he's coaching them and then

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Speaker 5: and it's just a neat story. And then I really

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Speaker 5: appreciate in it, brother, you know, sharing that with me,

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Speaker 5: And yeah, he's missed in this locker room. Like they

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Speaker 5: you know, they got rid of a lot of guys

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Speaker 5: this off season, but there there was only one Brian

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Speaker 5: Burns and uh, he guys so like you know, he

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Speaker 5: had this corner of the locker room. The guys would

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Speaker 5: just congregate too, because you know, he just had that

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Speaker 5: energy which you're referring to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not just defensive, guys, it's offensive guys.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in the in the locker room does really gravitate

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Speaker 2: to us. I'm with you, Joe. Tell the folks anything

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Speaker 2: else they might need to know or where they can

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Speaker 2: just find your great work.

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Speaker 5: Oh, man, I appreciate it. H Happy athletic on Twitter

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Speaker 5: at Joseph Person and uh yeah, looking forward to getting

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Speaker 5: over to the Munich and hopefully uh running into you

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Speaker 5: at some point and raising a tall stein of good

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Speaker 5: German lagger. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The U the Giants will be set up at the

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Speaker 2: Hofbar House, so feel feel free to stop buy and

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Speaker 2: say hello, Man.

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Speaker 3: We look forward to seeing you out there. Joe, thanks

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Travel.

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Speaker 3: That's Joe Person.

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Speaker 2: I wish I had a few more minutes with him.

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Speaker 2: He was running up against the meeting, could have got

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Speaker 2: a little bit more into some of the Gaelic football stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I had a lot of fun talking to him.

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Speaker 2: Really nice kid, and guys, you'd be surprised that he's

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Speaker 2: a big dude. That's what I asked him about tackling

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Speaker 2: in that interview was I thought he might be into that.

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Speaker 2: But he's a smart kicker, so that's always good. And

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Speaker 2: I always though it was interesting too that he said

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Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the work he does with Graham

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Speaker 2: is mental, only five percent is physical.

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Speaker 3: I figured, you know, different sport, it.

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Speaker 2: Will be a lot of technical stuff with kicking, but

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Speaker 2: I guess not so really interesting stuff there is the

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Speaker 2: Giants try to develop a kicker through the International Pathway program.

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Speaker 2: Joe Person Again, he's one of the best beat reporters

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Speaker 2: out there just around the league in general, certainly the

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Speaker 2: number one guy with the Panthers. So we'll see if

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Speaker 2: the Giants can figure out a way to beat the

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Speaker 2: Panthers in Munich. The Giants, of course, are three to

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Speaker 2: zero in their last three international games, and they'll try

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Speaker 2: to keep that going against the Panthers team that has

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Speaker 2: two wins. Much like the Giants but I think has

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Speaker 2: struggled to a different level this year than the Giants

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Speaker 2: have through the early part of this year.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget folks.

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Speaker 2: Go back to the last couple episodes of the Giants

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Speaker 2: talked to Marcus Kohn, native German works for US now

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Speaker 2: former Giants defensive tackle. Talked about the German market, how

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Speaker 2: the Germans are really taking to American football and really

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Speaker 3: And then we had a chance to talk also.

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Speaker 2: To our friends at the Irish UK Big Blue Podcast,

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Speaker 2: so it was fun talking with those guys get the

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Speaker 2: a little bit in that one, and of course you

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Speaker 2: can check out our radio postgame show. We'll have more

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Speaker 2: for you right here covering this game out there in Munich.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in Munich, the Tino and Casillas will be

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Speaker 2: back here at the Giants facility in the States. Pregame

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Speaker 2: well and Big Bull.

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Speaker 3: Kick Off live.

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Speaker 2: We still have our special Saturday show guys, if you

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Speaker 2: Paul Detino will be doing it this week because I'll

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