Speaker 1: Okay, seven four. Now we really need to get up
Speaker 1: with pressed news twists. But I have a doctor's equipment,
Speaker 1: so I gotta go. Oh, press news one more time.
Speaker 1: I'm Francesco Levi, and until pretty recently, a typical morning
Speaker 1: for me might go like this, press news for a while.
Speaker 1: Wait for my toddler son Roman to wake up. Oh
Speaker 1: that's him calling me. I'm Gondrining getting up and I
Speaker 1: am about mm hmm. Don't get him. And then from
Speaker 1: the time I get my son out of bed to
Speaker 1: the time I leave for work, everything kind of falls apart.
Speaker 1: I you go, that's bro all right, a morning shore
Speaker 1: and I have about twelve minutes to get ready if
Speaker 1: I want to leave them time trying to script once
Speaker 1: breakfast you extream light peez on while it thank you?
Speaker 1: All right? If I for real, everyone, I think I
Speaker 1: can do a lot better. So in this episode, I'm
Speaker 1: going to try to completely rehabilitate my mornings with the
Speaker 1: help of some expert advice, some scientific research, and some gadgets.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Works for Me. M Hi, I am at
Speaker 1: a greenfield and I'm Francesca Leaping. Every week on Works
Speaker 1: for Me, we test out solutions to our productivity problems
Speaker 1: and find out what tips and tricks will work for you.
Speaker 1: This week, it's Francesca's turn to fix her life. Francesca,
Speaker 1: what problem are you trying to solve? For years? I
Speaker 1: have wanted to totally fix my mornings. They're just kind
Speaker 1: of broken. I don't naturally get up super early, and
Speaker 1: I also just don't use my morning time well. I
Speaker 1: go from dragging my feet and wasting time to running
Speaker 1: around in a huge tree. By the time I leave
Speaker 1: the house, I'm usually flustered, running a few minutes late,
Speaker 1: and still a little groggy. I mean, that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: super and usual for a morning. No, it's probably not,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean it's good. And if there's one
Speaker 1: thing I know, it's that mornings are the most important
Speaker 1: part of the day. You read about the fabulous mornings
Speaker 1: of powerful people constantly. All of the world's influencers get
Speaker 1: up super early and start maximizing their time right away.
Speaker 1: The morning routines of Microsoft CEO Satia Adela, vog editor
Speaker 1: in chief and a win tour former PEPSI CEO Indrenus,
Speaker 1: and dozens of others start as early as four am
Speaker 1: and include everything from vigorous exercise to gratitude and meditation
Speaker 1: exercises to personal journaling. I really do have dozens of
Speaker 1: examples like this. Yeah, it's true. I come across articles
Speaker 1: about this all the time. Everybody seems to want to
Speaker 1: know the secret to success, and they think the answer
Speaker 1: can be found in the early hours of the day.
Speaker 1: It's like mornings are meant to be optimized, and if
Speaker 1: you're not doing it, you're a lazy loser who will
Speaker 1: never amount to anything. These people definitely exist to make
Speaker 1: you and me feel terrible about Do you feel like
Speaker 1: you're a morning person? I guess I would fall into
Speaker 1: the morning person category in the sense that I don't
Speaker 1: have trouble getting up early and I like the mornings,
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not doing anything to get anything out
Speaker 1: of them. Like I have figured out the last possible
Speaker 1: minute I can wake up and get to work. I
Speaker 1: don't even need breakfast at home or have coffee. I
Speaker 1: just get up as late as possible and leave for work. Well,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you haven't been indoctrinated by this like
Speaker 1: culture of mornings that I have, and I am a
Speaker 1: morning person. Maybe I should be taking advantage of that. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe morning people are just naturally more successful. I'm so successful.
Speaker 1: The important thing I wanted to change wasn't just getting
Speaker 1: up earlier. I wanted to have a good, effective, more ning.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like those morning people. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you want to get up earlier and do lots of
Speaker 1: productive stuff in the morning every day. So what's your
Speaker 1: plan of action? So I didn't just want to pick
Speaker 1: a morning person and imitate them. So I went looking
Speaker 1: for a morning wake up routine that was actually grounded
Speaker 1: in research, and I found this system. It's called rise Up.
Speaker 1: Rise Up is actually an acronym for six things that
Speaker 1: you can do every morning. It's a series of steps
Speaker 1: that make you wake up quickly and stay awake and alert.
Speaker 1: It was developed by Alison Harvey, a Berkeley professor of
Speaker 1: psychology who runs a sleep and mood research lab. I'm
Speaker 1: going to describe the acronym, which is kind of a
Speaker 1: weird one. The R stands for refrain from snoozing. The
Speaker 1: I stands for increased initial activity for the first hour.
Speaker 1: The S stands for shower or babe, which I think
Speaker 1: is pretty standard. The E stands for expose yourself to
Speaker 1: sunlight even looking at a window is fine. The you
Speaker 1: stands for upbeat music, and then there's P which stands
Speaker 1: for phone a friend. I think the idea is that
Speaker 1: talking to somebody helps trigger your brains, energy, chemicals or something.
Speaker 1: So I decided to try this for six weeks. This
Speaker 1: is a lot of steps to do for somebody who
Speaker 1: self proclaimed doesn't like doing things in the morning. Also,
Speaker 1: increase in ishal activity. What does that mean exercise? I
Speaker 1: think like just be active first thing in the morning.
Speaker 1: Like I said, this acronyms is not a good acronymis
Speaker 1: none of the letters. You really have to force them
Speaker 1: into making them mean what they're supposed to be. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a robot like increase initial activity. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, but this is what science says you
Speaker 1: have to do. So how will you know that you've
Speaker 1: succeeded in fixing your mornings after doing this experiment? This
Speaker 1: morning makeover will be a success if I can get
Speaker 1: through all of the rise up steps every day for
Speaker 1: a week. By the way, the developers of this system
Speaker 1: are actually careful to say you don't have to do
Speaker 1: every step every day and you can adjust it as necessary.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to get the absolute most out of
Speaker 1: my morning. So I committed to doing every single step. Okay,
Speaker 1: rise up. As I said, is six steps that you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do every morning. I'll describe how I did
Speaker 1: on each step in order. Step one refrain from snoozing.
Speaker 1: This step sounds easy, it's basically just getting out of bed,
Speaker 1: but I found myself failing at it all the time.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. You can know in your head
Speaker 1: that pressing snooze is just not a great plan, that
Speaker 1: it reinforces a sense of failure first thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: and that sleeping in eight minute increments is not actually RESTful.
Speaker 1: You can know that in your rational brain. But my
Speaker 1: rational brain is nowhere to be found. It's as I am,
Speaker 1: it's only lizard brain saying sleep more. I thought about
Speaker 1: people who have conquered that lizard brain. People who have
Speaker 1: to get up crazy early for work, like morning newscasters.
Speaker 1: Not only do they have to be at work early,
Speaker 1: they have to be able to sound bright and awake
Speaker 1: like this, good morning. I'm Noel King. If you've ever
Speaker 1: done CPR training, you know that that's Noel King, host
Speaker 1: of NPRS Morning Edition, and her morning is insane. She
Speaker 1: gets up at one thirty a m. And she has
Speaker 1: to be on the air as early as four thirty am.
Speaker 1: I spoke with her a few months ago after she
Speaker 1: got up her shift. I asked her about that feeling
Speaker 1: when you get up, that going back to sleep just
Speaker 1: for a few minutes would be the sweetest thing. Ever.
Speaker 1: Noel explained how she convinces herself to get out of bed.
Speaker 1: I will say that in the morning, I am a
Speaker 1: little mean to myself. I acknowledge that I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't want to do something, and then I hear
Speaker 1: a different voice, which sounds an awful lot like my
Speaker 1: mom's sometimes saying, but you don't have any options. There's
Speaker 1: how you feel, which is your problem, and then there's
Speaker 1: the day that you have to get done and and
Speaker 1: if you don't do it, you make that everybody else's problem.
Speaker 1: So you have to really, truly, I know this sounds insane,
Speaker 1: but you have to condition yourself to divorce what you're feeling,
Speaker 1: which maybe like crap, from what has to get done,
Speaker 1: and you have to tell yourself you don't have a choice.
Speaker 1: You can't stay in bed. It's funny to imagine her
Speaker 1: having this internal monologue with herself every morning. I know.
Speaker 1: I mean she said she's naturally a morning person, but
Speaker 1: I mean, no amount of being a morning person is
Speaker 1: going to make you want to wake up at one thirty,
Speaker 1: which is just such a crazy time. And so I
Speaker 1: thought she was like the perfect person to ask, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you grapple with that actual feeling? Because I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about how successful people like spring
Speaker 1: out of bed and start exercising. Like, I get it,
Speaker 1: you're great, But if you don't naturally want to do that,
Speaker 1: how do you fight those urges that are really strong? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I relate to this a little. You know,
Speaker 1: and your alarm goes off on the morning, you do
Speaker 1: have to there's something inside of you. Do you do it?
Speaker 1: Do you press snews? Are you a snoozer? I'm not
Speaker 1: a sneezer. So you just say, Becca, it's time to
Speaker 1: get started. I've calibrated, and I just know how bad
Speaker 1: that feels. It's just well, it feels bad, but first
Speaker 1: it feels good. It's like a drug. I knew I
Speaker 1: needed to get serious about kicking what I have come
Speaker 1: to realize as a snooze addiction. So I doubled down
Speaker 1: on the R part of rise up. I started using
Speaker 1: a special wake up light that mimics a natural sunrise.
Speaker 1: The one I have is made by Phillips. It retails
Speaker 1: for about a hundred dollars and it slowly brightens your
Speaker 1: room so you just glide out of sleep. And I
Speaker 1: downloaded a free sleep cycle app which is supposed to
Speaker 1: detect when your sleep cycle is at its lightest and
Speaker 1: that's when it's easiest for someone to wake up. And
Speaker 1: how did that all go? Well? After a little trial
Speaker 1: and error and a lot of practice, I did manage
Speaker 1: to get better at waking up without snoozing. The sleep
Speaker 1: cycle app never correctly guessed when I was lightly sleeping,
Speaker 1: so I just deleted it from my phone. In fact,
Speaker 1: I got rid of my phone alarm altogether and just
Speaker 1: started using the wake up light as my only alarm.
Speaker 1: It comes with a little gentle bird song. I also
Speaker 1: put the wake up light way on the far side
Speaker 1: of the room so that it was harder to go
Speaker 1: back to sleep after I turned it off, and I
Speaker 1: just tried to remember Noel King's wise words. You don't
Speaker 1: have any options. There's how you feel, which is your problem,
Speaker 1: and then there's the day that you have to get done,
Speaker 1: and if you don't do it, you make that everybody
Speaker 1: else's problems. I just sort of trained myself to wake
Speaker 1: up like a robot and dive right into my yoga routine.
Speaker 1: More about that yoga routine after this break. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we're on step two now exercise. Well not technically.
Speaker 1: It's the eye and rise up, which stands for increased
Speaker 1: initial activity. I interpreted this as fifteen minutes of vigorous
Speaker 1: yoga right after getting out of bed. So on day one,
Speaker 1: after making it out of bed, I did my level
Speaker 1: best to follow along with the yoga video I found
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Hold your plank, breathe and then going side
Speaker 1: to side, did you want hit at a time to
Speaker 1: the most working away signing intense. I don't have to
Speaker 1: physically touch the brown come close to using the strengthen,
Speaker 1: but it's a hard, very hard coming down to low plank.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. I'll see you against soon. Bye.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that was the increase initial activity step,
Speaker 1: and I will say it moments turning. Got like fifteen
Speaker 1: minute yoga session. I felt wide awake most of it.
Speaker 1: I felt like a zombie, but definitely definitely something about
Speaker 1: getting the blood pumping, but I guess you can lose
Speaker 1: it pretty quickly. You don't sound away at all. And
Speaker 1: also that woman's soothing voice would really trigger me out,
Speaker 1: especially because she was doing stuff that was so hard.
Speaker 1: She was like this beautiful woman on a beach in
Speaker 1: Costa Rica Mure. Yeah, I mean, I think that was
Speaker 1: something I learned right away. You can feel really awake
Speaker 1: and then go back to feeling really tired and dragging,
Speaker 1: like it is in a state you maintain all morning.
Speaker 1: But despite how I sound when I'm struggling through those
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, I ended up really getting into the morning yoga.
Speaker 1: After a week or two, I extended my fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: to thirty five and then forty five minutes, and I
Speaker 1: even found a way to create my own little personal
Speaker 1: yoga studio. I started sneaking out of my apartment every
Speaker 1: morning at around six am, climbing up five flights of
Speaker 1: stairs in my pajamas and doing yoga on my roof deck.
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed that you did forty five minutes of exercise.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're like really getting a lot out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes felt kind of like a trick. Like just
Speaker 1: a way to get through this step. But forty five
Speaker 1: minutes feels legit. That feels like a real amount of exercise.
Speaker 1: That's almost a class you pay for. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: I was nailing the refrain from snooze and exercise steps,
Speaker 1: I was not doing as well with all of the others.
Speaker 1: Next up on the list is s for shower or bathe. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I was nailing that too. I did shower
Speaker 1: every day. I don't think most people need to be
Speaker 1: advised that this wakes you up. But if you're not
Speaker 1: normally a morning shower, I recommended, Oh, it's the key
Speaker 1: to awakeness in the morning. I don't know how other
Speaker 1: people do it. A lot of people have cracked that,
Speaker 1: I feel like, But anyway, great life hack. Good for me.
Speaker 1: I showered every day. But the next step the E
Speaker 1: in rise up. He does not stand for exercise. It
Speaker 1: stands for expose yourself to sunlight. Sunlight is scientifically shown
Speaker 1: to boost your mood. So I get the rationale. But
Speaker 1: I spent time trying to really do this right, like
Speaker 1: standing on the little terrorists of my apartment while I
Speaker 1: ate my breakfast, and it always felt like busy work.
Speaker 1: I couldn't feel myself waking up while I did it,
Speaker 1: and just took time. And then there's you for upbeat music.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even decide what counted as upbeat music. That
Speaker 1: doesn't really sound that complicated. But so, yeah, what was
Speaker 1: your struggle? Well, my first thought when I think of
Speaker 1: upbeat music isties were them and blues. That's sort of
Speaker 1: my go to good mood genre. I played songs like
Speaker 1: this Solomon Burke's Cry to Me in the beginning when
Speaker 1: Your Baby. But as I started listening closely, I realized
Speaker 1: it's all sort of mid tempo, not necessarily fast music,
Speaker 1: so I switched it out for stuff that's more high
Speaker 1: tempo and contemporary. This is the Semi Circle song by
Speaker 1: the Goat. But then I thought, maybe upbeat actually means happy,
Speaker 1: Like even that super high energy stuff had sort of
Speaker 1: a melancholy vibe. Anyway, I finally realized I was doing
Speaker 1: this wrong. The answer to what upbeat music is is obvious. Alex,
Speaker 1: Alex Dumb, It's Alex, That's I like it by Cardi
Speaker 1: B Cardi B right Like, That's the answer to everything.
Speaker 1: That was definitely the most energetic I would say of
Speaker 1: that theory. I also think that you could probably play
Speaker 1: all of them and it would be okay as long
Speaker 1: as you Philip Well, I think that was the thing.
Speaker 1: It was like for me, I listened to music that
Speaker 1: suits my mood, and it's hard for me to get
Speaker 1: into music if it's not where I'm at already in
Speaker 1: my head. So it was just like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know people pick like playlists for their running in the
Speaker 1: gym and stuff, but I just wasn't finding like I
Speaker 1: was getting hung up obviously on the definition of the
Speaker 1: beat music, but I just wasn't like it wasn't translating
Speaker 1: into my brain as like now it's time to wake
Speaker 1: up and be awake. I was just sort of like
Speaker 1: I kind of would rather be listening to the news
Speaker 1: right now. Oh interesting, But I like the Cardi B
Speaker 1: But I don't think you could listen to that every day.
Speaker 1: Well that's it. It's like every day, are you gonna
Speaker 1: want to listen to up beat music? And that was
Speaker 1: my challenge. So yeah, that was one step I was
Speaker 1: having a weird amount of trouble with. And the final step,
Speaker 1: p for a phone A friend was another major hurdle.
Speaker 1: Finding somebody to call every morning. Was tough. I even
Speaker 1: called you, remember how are you? How are you? I'm
Speaker 1: right awake in the background. Yeah, he wants the he
Speaker 1: wants me to sing. Yeah, yeah, yoh was rising up.
Speaker 1: What how is it? It's good. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of steps, but it's not helpful to you because it's
Speaker 1: not helpful to me. Yeah, it's not supposed to be
Speaker 1: helpful to you. Do you remember that phone call? I do.
Speaker 1: I was tired, I was before my alarm off. You
Speaker 1: sounded like most people say that when I called them
Speaker 1: in the morning. Nobody wants to get a phone call
Speaker 1: at seven am, but you sound super awake. Yeah. By
Speaker 1: that time, I definitely was like raring to go, And
Speaker 1: I just always found myself at the end of the
Speaker 1: morning like like, oh god, I gotta do the phone
Speaker 1: call step and then scram link to think of somebody
Speaker 1: or calling you or calling our producer, tofer like calling
Speaker 1: my mom, who granted is the only person who is
Speaker 1: actually happy to hear from me at seven am. I
Speaker 1: have no idea who I would call it seven am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that step. I mean, that was just like
Speaker 1: a huge logistical challenge. So even measuring how how well
Speaker 1: it works to wake me up like it was too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who calls people anymore? My biggest problem with this whole
Speaker 1: routine was time. Even though I was getting up a
Speaker 1: lot earlier than I had before, doing all of these
Speaker 1: things was taking so long that I still ended up
Speaker 1: feeling rushed. I mean, this thing has six steps. I
Speaker 1: still needed to fit in the boring life stuff that
Speaker 1: just has to get done in the morning. I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready now, putting my make a bun, combing my hair,
Speaker 1: and I haven't officially done exposing myself to sunlight. He's
Speaker 1: feeling a little more urgent about my normal morning routine
Speaker 1: than I am. About to rise up steps. I just
Speaker 1: can see how quickly this falls apart when you don't have,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, six hours in the morning to
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. These steps were supposed to set
Speaker 1: me up to become the ultimate morning person, but I
Speaker 1: still didn't feel that way. Were they the wrong steps?
Speaker 1: I asked an expert, So the tasks that are best
Speaker 1: to do in the mornings are the ones that would
Speaker 1: be difficult to do in the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: Laura Vanderkam is an expert on time management, and she's
Speaker 1: researched the best way to spend your morning using real data.
Speaker 1: For one of her studies, she asked successful people to
Speaker 1: keep time diaries, and she found that a lot of
Speaker 1: high achievers did things like exercise, meditation, and creative writing
Speaker 1: in the wee hours. I asked her why I didn't
Speaker 1: feel more efficient or productive or less frazzled after making
Speaker 1: all this effort. Was I doing too much? Not enough?
Speaker 1: It's really more about saying, well, what would help me
Speaker 1: start my day on a positive note um? And is
Speaker 1: there something I would really like to be doing in
Speaker 1: my life that I am not fitting into the rest
Speaker 1: of my schedule. So you know, no, you don't have
Speaker 1: to wake up at four am and run a half marathon,
Speaker 1: meditate for an hour, you know, cook a breakfast that
Speaker 1: features kale and Keene Watt like. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do that sort of thing, as long as it is
Speaker 1: something that creates a creates positive momentum for your day
Speaker 1: and makes you feel like you have accomplished something before
Speaker 1: you go into that hamster whale of everything else you
Speaker 1: have to do. Talking to Laura made me finally realize
Speaker 1: it's not about doing the right things for someone else,
Speaker 1: and it's not even about doing a set number of things.
Speaker 1: It's an enough to find one thing that you aren't
Speaker 1: likely to do during the rest of your day that
Speaker 1: makes you feel good. For me, it happened to be exercise.
Speaker 1: Doing it on the roof that actually felt like me time.
Speaker 1: I just finished during a half hour of yoga, so
Speaker 1: I'm up here with the planes flying overhead, and it
Speaker 1: was awesome. I don't know, just doing yoga and being
Speaker 1: able to look up at the sky and watch the
Speaker 1: sky change. It's a really beautiful day. I'm totally alone
Speaker 1: up here on the roof deck. I'm sure my baby
Speaker 1: is crying downstairs in our apartment, but it's not my
Speaker 1: problem right now. I could happily spend another half hour
Speaker 1: just sitting up here looking at the sky. I really
Speaker 1: feel like I genuinely am taking time for myself. It
Speaker 1: really felt like self care. Not to sound new age
Speaker 1: and goofy about it, but it just helped me understand
Speaker 1: what's great about mornings. You really do have the morning
Speaker 1: all to yourself. Like if you get up early enough,
Speaker 1: you can walk through your apartment building in pajamas, you
Speaker 1: can be on your roof doing downward dog and not
Speaker 1: worry about anyone else seeing you. I didn't need to
Speaker 1: meditate or write the Great American novel or recite affirmations.
Speaker 1: And I also didn't need to necessarily stare at sunlight
Speaker 1: or listen to a particular kind of upbeat music. I
Speaker 1: had found my thing, or at least one thing, exercise,
Speaker 1: so I just kind of let the other steps go.
Speaker 1: So you don't youth news again, No snooze I've stuck to,
Speaker 1: or resisting snooze or refraining from snoozing. I h I
Speaker 1: have found that that's like super useful in kind of
Speaker 1: setting the tone for the rest of the morning. It's
Speaker 1: like the first thing that you do in the day.
Speaker 1: So when you fail at it, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to feel successful at anything you do after. Do you
Speaker 1: feel good about your mornings now that you do all?
Speaker 1: I the acrony, I just right. I don't rise up? Um,
Speaker 1: yeah I do. I think I needed to get over
Speaker 1: my obsession with this idea that you need to pack
Speaker 1: your mornings with all of this good stuff. Um. I
Speaker 1: think I was doing some stuff wrong that didn't make
Speaker 1: me feel good. And for me, the best part is
Speaker 1: not necessarily feeling rushed and also just realizing that you
Speaker 1: know as a mother of a child, Like, there is
Speaker 1: actually time in the day that I kind of unlocked
Speaker 1: and I didn't really realize was there. And I'm using
Speaker 1: it for something that I haven't been making time for regularly,
Speaker 1: which is exercise. M H. I got chills when you
Speaker 1: sat unlocked. Happy for you. But your goal was to
Speaker 1: have one week where you did the steps every day.
Speaker 1: Did you achieve your goal? Becca, I did not, sad face.
Speaker 1: There was always at least one step that I didn't
Speaker 1: execute perfectly, or I just skipped altogether. It was usually
Speaker 1: phone a friend. I got so frustrated with this step
Speaker 1: that I expanded the definition of phone to include any
Speaker 1: form of communication. So sending someone an email counted if
Speaker 1: you go by that definition. Maybe I did succeed. That
Speaker 1: does not count. That's not no talking involved. Maybe talking
Speaker 1: to another human I would count. I felt so bad
Speaker 1: always about missing it that I started lying to myself
Speaker 1: to make myself think I was doing it all, but
Speaker 1: I really I couldn't. And I also didn't transform my
Speaker 1: whole life through positive mornings, like I haven't seen a
Speaker 1: big leap in my productivity. Nobody has given me a
Speaker 1: big raise or promotion since I started doing this experiment,
Speaker 1: but I did seem to find time in the morning
Speaker 1: that's only for me, which felt like a magic trick.
Speaker 1: And after exercising even a little in the morning, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've notched a win early and that definitely
Speaker 1: has a knock on impact on the rest of my day.
Speaker 1: I've been keeping up with it most days. I wake
Speaker 1: up at five forty five now, don't press news, and
Speaker 1: I do yoga for thirty five to forty five minutes
Speaker 1: before the little one wakes up. That is incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't do that well. Maybe if you'd
Speaker 1: had to put yourself through a rigorous training program just
Speaker 1: to stop pressing snooze, you'd be aiming for a little more. Okay,
Speaker 1: so technically you didn't succeed, but your morning sounds a
Speaker 1: lot more productive and efficient than they did before. So
Speaker 1: after your struggle, what do you think about this whole
Speaker 1: cult of mornings? Yeah, I still feel inadequate compared to
Speaker 1: the four am rising CEOs, and I don't think I
Speaker 1: buy though anymore, that there's such a thing as a
Speaker 1: perfect morning. But I do understand now that getting motivated
Speaker 1: and active early really does trigger something good and I
Speaker 1: think that's why so many successful people use their mornings. Well,
Speaker 1: would you say that there are things that everyone can
Speaker 1: do to improve their morning, or is the lesson that
Speaker 1: it's really up to you to improve your mornings. I
Speaker 1: do think that there are some universal things about this.
Speaker 1: The snooze button really is the enemy of a good morning.
Speaker 1: But if you have a snooze habit, you can conquer it.
Speaker 1: It just might take some hardcore conditioning. And also, you
Speaker 1: can't have a good morning without first having a good night.
Speaker 1: I heard that from Noel King and from Laura Vanderkamp,
Speaker 1: and it's totally true. I go to bed at around
Speaker 1: nine thirty every night, and if I didn't, my mornings
Speaker 1: would be miserable, no matter how much discipline I have.
Speaker 1: So you've become one of the morning people that we
Speaker 1: love to hate. You're someone who can now go on
Speaker 1: TV and write about seller about your perfect morning, and
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