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The 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: automakers are reporting their US sales figures for a February 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: for it AD just out saying sales rose more than 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: twenty percent, beating analysts estimates. Nissan also beat, as did 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Fiat Chrysler U Stock Index futures meanwhile higher SNP EMNI 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: futures of thirteen points, DOWIE Mini futures up eighty eight 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: and NASDAC emni futures up thirty one dacks in Germany's 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: up one and a half percent, ten year treasury up 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: to thirty seconds, the yield one point seven two percent. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Nimex screwed oil up nine tenths percent, or twenty nine 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: cents at thirty four oh four a barrel. Comex gold 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: up six tenths percent or seven dollars sixty cents at 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: twelve forty two twenty announced the euro a dollar eight 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: seven one the N one thirteen point eight. That's a 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. Tom and Mike, thanks so much, turn 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate it. Good morning everyone, Bloomberg's surveillance from Washington 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: this Super Tuesday. We welcome all of you. Right now, 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: do we just talk about econometrics, about the greater economy 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: in the macroeconomics of the nation. Let's talk about the 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: statistical analysis. Who's gonna vote? Tom Vannier is with clarity 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: and has been instrumental clarity campaign Labs, Target Target Spark, right. 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I can't keep track of the names. I mean, we're 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: switching from progressive back to liberal as well. But we're 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk about as someone who actually tries to figure 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: out what we're going to do. How is the world 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: now different than the simple days of the gallop pole. 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: It's it's really infinitely different in so many ways. Um. 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, when we look at at the really the 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: last two presidential campaigns, the we look at especially President 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Obama's campaigns, but also John McCain, uh Mitt, Romney presidential 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: campaigns have become billion dollars startups that they ramp up 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: in no time and they're very high stakes and so UH. 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: To go along with that, there's been uh more accountability 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: and how these campaigns spend their money, and a big 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: part of that is data. Uh it's data driven decision 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: making UM and and really the sort of data that 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: is available to campaigns today uh is infinitely different from 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: what campaigns used years ago, where really they relied on 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: relatively small sample surveys, long surveys, but they would dig 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: deep into messaging and they deal with the overall strategy, 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: but they really didn't deal with the micro aspects of 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: campaigns really because they didn't have to, because campaigns didn't 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: really have the capacity nor the ability to communicate on 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: a one to one basis like we do that now 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: you can, and you worked for Democrats for years. Tell 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: who votes when Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders face off 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: in his state? Um, you know who's going to vote, 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: that's right, and and who is whose supporters are actually 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: getting out and voted. Well. Uh, So we have an 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: entire process that we go through where we model the 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: electorate and we actually apply probabilities to every single voter 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a million rested voters in this country, and we have 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: a zero to one probability score assigned every voter and 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the likelihood that they're going to vote in both the 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: primary election the general election. Now, generally these primaries, UH, 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: the people who vote tend to be older. Other people 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: have voted more in past elections. And really the pattern 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the Democratic primary, at least thus far, 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: has been fairly standard. And in the two thousand eight primary, 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: you saw more younger uh, more African American War Latino 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: voters participate in the primaries, uh and and and that 68 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: pattern is holding for the most part. There's nothing all 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: together unusual about the turnout pattern, Bernie stand there hasn't 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: encouraged some more younger voters to participate in some of 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: the early states thus far, but really not enough to 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: make a substantial difference. So you gotta call tomorrow morning 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: from Donald Trump's people and they say, we love what 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you do. We know you're on the other side of 75 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the fence when you get a consultant to tell us 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: what to do. What's your advice to a guy who, 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: it appears to me, hasn't done much data collection well, well, well, 78 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: first of all, I'd likely tell him to take a hike, 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: because not not my side of the fence. The Trump 80 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: campaign is really fascinating and that uh he is running 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: one of the least sophisticated campaigns in terms of data technology, 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: UM analytics, yet he continues to win. It's it's a 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: very gut instinct driven campaign. He's obviously a very smart businessman. 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: He can walk into a room and he can know 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: immediately what people want to hear. And the room he's 86 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: in now is the Republican primary, and so he's saying 87 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: things that those people want to hear. I think we 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: hear something very different in the general election. Uh. But 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: he has shunned the traditional concept of even pulling something 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the campaigns have been doing for decades, where he somewhat 91 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: famously said why should we pull when the media is 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 1: doing it for us anyhow? Uh So, so my advice 93 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: as a Democrat would be to keep doing what you're 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: doing because he's really wreaking havoc on the Republican Well 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: that's where I want to go next. Um. If Trump 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: is a nominee, there's a lot of talk about what 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: happens down ballot, what do your numbers suggest do you 98 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: have enough information enough data to be able to make 99 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: a forecast. Well, I'll add this caveat at the outset 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: that that Donald Trump and in this election year, has 101 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: made a lot of very smart pundits look very stupid 102 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: thus far, I don't think anyone would have guessed or 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: predicted that he would be where he is now. It's 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: I could look anywhere and and and be accurate without 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: even in myself. So uh uh so uh In terms 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: of predicting the impact, uh, A smart money would say 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: that he would have a catastrophic impact on Republicans up 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: and down the ticket. Uh and and and hearing your 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: your guests earlier today, Vin Weber, Secretary Cohen, it it's 110 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: it's really remarkable to hear people like that running so 111 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: far away from but the way the districts have been 112 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: jerry mandering. Jerrymandering is a significant issue, and we could 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: talk about that for hours. It's it's it's likely the 114 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: root of a lot of the problems that this country 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: is facing right now, and so that does insulate a 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: number of districts against the way. But waves do happen, 117 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: We saw them happen that happened in We've seen that 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: happen in two thousand six when Democrats took the House back. 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: So this is really an unusual election year we're headed into. 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: So I think all bets are off, and that's why 121 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: you're seeing so many nervous members of Congress. I didn't 122 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: even have time to talk to you today, Tom Bonnier, 123 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: about the strange transformation from from liberal to progressive in 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: back to liberal as well. Please can we speak to 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: you again sometime soon? I would love it. Thanks so 126 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: much when you drove listening FM Washington and Baltimore. We've 127 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about on Super Tuesday, about 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: our economics, about our politics. 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