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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August fourteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: the season premiere of Love Is fag J P.

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Speaker 2: J P. Shadwick, Jeff Logman, Busy Hour ahead really two hours.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen Show at five o'clock. Here's what's coming up

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Speaker 2: on Happy Hour. A scrimmage review. Jaguars went through it today.

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Speaker 2: They're working through details all week long, coming off that

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Speaker 2: Steelers game, and we'll look head to the Jaguars Saints

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Speaker 2: and of course, as we said, the Liam Cohen Show

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Speaker 2: at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network WIF James

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Speaker 2: GLADSTONA and Tony Bassellian studio for the fourth consecutive week

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Speaker 2: web Coach Cohen. Starting week one, We're on ten ten

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Speaker 2: YouTube and a special guest in studio with us on

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy hour today, longtime NFL linebackers coach, including with

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Speaker 2: the Jags from six to twenty thirteen, two stints as

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Speaker 2: an NFL defensive coordinator, former head coach at the University

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Speaker 2: of Maryland and at Holy Cross. Started his career at

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five as a grad assistant under Woody Hayes

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Speaker 2: at Ohio State. The Great Mark Duffner is in studio

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Speaker 2: with US today, coach. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, JP. Appreciate that introduction, really really special since.

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Speaker 2: It's a hell of a career and it's not over yet,

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Speaker 2: we're hoping that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't remember that duff is the longest tenured

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Speaker 4: Jaguars coach in history, which is pretty spectacular.

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Speaker 2: How many how many different head coaches were you involved

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Speaker 2: with here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was with three, I was with Jack, I

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Speaker 3: was with Mike Malarkey, and then I was with Gus

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Speaker 3: So I was with three different head coaches and actually

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Speaker 3: an interim Mel Tucker was in there. Four. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: I was loved being here a lot. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was great to come here.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you didn't hear the intro there, and

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Speaker 4: Joe was you know, was saying that the main star

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Speaker 4: of the show Love is Bald.

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Speaker 2: Here's how gullible I am.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I was googling that, by the way, right after

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Speaker 4: the drug Is that really a show that I have

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Speaker 4: to deal.

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Speaker 2: With every week? This is what happens here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's the best.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, You've kept the home here since you started here.

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Speaker 3: Right two thousand and six. Yeah, I kept my house

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Speaker 3: in Ponta Vidra. And you know when I left here

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Speaker 3: to go to Miami, in Cincinnati and Tampa, I stayed

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Speaker 3: in an apartment. My wife went back and forth. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: and I'm never leaving here. This is the greatest place

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Speaker 3: to live in the country.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people don't realize how many

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Speaker 4: coaches have stayed. I mean you, Mike Malarkey, Tom Coughlin,

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Speaker 4: I mean Tom Cofflin won two Super Bowls in New York.

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Speaker 2: And he's living here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Russ Pernell, former special teams coordinati Sutton's down here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's and it's amazing how many coaches want

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Speaker 3: to come back if they're not if they haven't come back,

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Speaker 3: they want to come back. I mean, And so it's

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Speaker 3: a it's been a very special place to not only players,

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Speaker 3: but a lot to the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to work on that.

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Speaker 4: You know, the there's always been kind of a fraternity

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Speaker 4: of former players that gather for alumni weekend or Legends weekend,

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Speaker 4: and uh, we need to work harder at gathering some

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Speaker 4: of the former Jaguar coaches back because you know, look,

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Speaker 4: they played a big part of the Jaguars history as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that'd be great. I mean, I hope

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Speaker 3: you sound that invite out real, real loud, because I

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Speaker 3: think you'll get a lot of takers on there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna work on that. We got We're going

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Speaker 4: to figure that out because that that'd be a pretty

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Speaker 4: cool reunion to gather some of the old coaches some

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Speaker 4: of the players that they coached. Oh yeah, because you

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Speaker 4: know that that that's the one thing I think that's

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Speaker 4: real special about this place. And I mean you've been

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Speaker 4: a lot of places before. There's not many places like this,

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Speaker 3: And that's what's been so great for me the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks coming back out here, having the privilege

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Speaker 3: to go out and watch practice, connect with you guys

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Speaker 3: in terms of people that were here when I was

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Speaker 3: here before, seeing those people, seeing people in the equipment room.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just former coaches, players, some of the current

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Speaker 3: mean there's nothing like it. I mean the fraternalness and

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Speaker 2: Great. And we're in the middle of Electric Center, We're

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Speaker 2: in the Hundai studios inside of here. Yeah, you're shaking

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Speaker 2: your head. A little different than two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, JP. You know, unbelievable. I mean, when

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Speaker 3: I walked out onto the practice field last week, I said,

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Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. And what they've done

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Speaker 3: for the fans here to see practice and training camp

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Speaker 3: and all that, and then this facility here, which I've

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Speaker 3: You talk about a tangible commitment to excellence. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, mister shod Cohn is ponied up. He's done it.

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Speaker 3: And I think for player, if I'm a player to

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Speaker 3: come to Jackson, I'm gonna have world class facilities. I'm

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Speaker 3: in a tremendous town. We are the only show in town,

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Speaker 3: so to speak. They've been successful here. I mean check

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Speaker 3: the boxes. I mean they're all over here on the

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Speaker 3: left with positive, positive, positive, very good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's absolutely no reason why a free agent would

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Speaker 4: not want to come here. I mean when it comes

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Speaker 4: to facilities, I mean everything's there now you even factor

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Speaker 4: in the place that we live in. And the reality

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Speaker 4: is is that for a long time, everybody thought it

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Speaker 4: was just about the money in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not anymore.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the arms race in college football has spread

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Speaker 4: to the NFL because facilities matter, amenities matter.

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Speaker 2: into the approach from Liam Cohen this week coming out

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Speaker 2: of the Steelers game. You know, it felt like at

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Speaker 2: times on defense and logs chime in on this too,

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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of guys with their hands up,

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Speaker 2: like where what's going on? So miscommunication, misalignments and a

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Speaker 2: lot of yardage on the defense last week, well, he

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Speaker 2: game sequence, calling plays, from the sideline benches were out there.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the approach from coach Cohen

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Speaker 2: coming off the first preseason game in the performance.

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Speaker 3: They had, I think it was excellent. I mean I

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Speaker 3: think he grabbed the bull right by the horns. I

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Speaker 3: mean what you suggested. I watched the game on TV,

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Speaker 3: but you know, tempo hurt the defense. You know, the

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Speaker 3: And calls were probably getting in late game mechanics across

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Speaker 3: the board. Well, you got to practice those secs and

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Speaker 3: you know you saw in the Steelers game some like

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Speaker 3: game timing issues on both coaching staff across the board. Well,

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Speaker 3: for coach to have that walk through alignment assignment adjustment

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Speaker 3: I think was outstanding. Plus it made the point not

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Speaker 3: only to the coaches but to the players everybody, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we got to get this fixed. Let's don't beat ourselves,

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Speaker 3: you know, let's beat that group across the field. And

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Speaker 3: then I think what he structured today today was I

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Speaker 3: shore up that stuff. And I think he answered some

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Speaker 3: of Now, some of it still reared its head.

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Speaker 2: But flags out there today again.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but I think I watched the defense

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Speaker 3: in particular, as far as they got lined up, the

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Speaker 3: offense came out and oftentimes got no huddle. They were

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Speaker 3: well what do you mean or what you know, hands

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Speaker 3: a lot of that was you know, tough and you know,

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Speaker 3: so they're staring down that offense, you know, looking at

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Speaker 3: of that was addressed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Liam talked about it and use the term, you know,

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Speaker 4: let's get our cleats in the grass, so to speak,

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Speaker 4: and uh, and it's a very proper term. And he

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Speaker 4: said even took it back a little bit to the

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Speaker 4: pop Warner you know days, which you know, let's get

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Speaker 4: you know, I think the concerning part is is that

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Speaker 4: Well you want to get lined up early, you know,

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Speaker 4: as a player, if you get lined up and you've

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Speaker 4: can digest okay, what's the formation, Now, what's the stances? Okay,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people think, well, you're just a

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Speaker 2: little bit late start.

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Speaker 4: Well it's a late start, but then it becomes later

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Speaker 4: because you're not doing any of that pre snap reading

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Speaker 4: of the opponent. And so that needs to be fixed

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Speaker 4: this week. And I think most of the the biggest

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Speaker 4: improvements typically come from the first game to the second

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Speaker 2: A very big improvement.

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Speaker 4: And they worked that mechanics today and that scrimmage do

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Speaker 4: they They had the guys that were considered up in

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Speaker 4: the coaches booth, which there's no coaches booth was at

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Speaker 4: Miller Electric Center, but they were up in the balcony.

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Speaker 2: They had one coach in ev P.

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Speaker 4: Busselli's box up there and then another coach of offense

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Speaker 4: and one defense and the other the other one and

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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen's balcony up there, so that they could essentially

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Speaker 4: play like it is game day, you know, the mechanics

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully that helps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's definitely going to help.

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Speaker 3: And what you were talking about is when you get

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Speaker 3: lined up fast, then you can read the indicators that

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Speaker 3: coach was just talking about, jeffs is talking about in

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Speaker 3: pre snap. And sometimes those indicators are like the big billboard.

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Speaker 3: These are you know, tremendous coaching points that he just

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Speaker 2: Quicker than that, think you can coach. Mark Duffner is

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Speaker 3: You think about you know what else? Good Lord, what

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Speaker 5: You know, it's good competitiveness out here, guys going at it,

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Speaker 2: It was a long.

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Speaker 5: Drive to Star went and scored, and then from there, defense,

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Speaker 2: Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jaguars linebackers coach Mark Dufner in

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Speaker 2: studio with us today. Glad to have you, coach.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, Really pleased to be here with you.

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Speaker 2: Really great. He's a ball coach man. He wants a

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Speaker 4: Beach football No, no, no umbrella, drinks for dote, talk

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little offensive football here from the

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Speaker 3: Well, you know there was. I'll say this now. The

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I did not like coming out

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Speaker 4: And if you're the leader, then you need to lead

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Speaker 3: I don't think it could be said any better than that.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's got enough talent to beat two teams, meaning us

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Speaker 3: and the opponent. We got to beat those suckers. So

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Speaker 3: we all got to be together and in this thing

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Speaker 3: to win it.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that that you know, a little

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Speaker 2: adversity now right, I mean adversity after week one, the

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Speaker 2: defense getting cleats in the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's adversity, right, pretty adverse second scrimmage that

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Speaker 4: you have in house. Little adversity. Right, offense is not

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Speaker 4: where it needs to be. Offense is making some self

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Speaker 4: inflicted wounds. I mean, look, having to go through that now,

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Speaker 4: I think is better than just, you know, having everything

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Speaker 4: be all perfect. You know, we're living in analysis wonderland,

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Speaker 4: okay for a preseason, because you know, when you have that,

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Speaker 4: you know, let's flash back to last year. We kind

447
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Speaker 4: of had that moment, you know, in preseason, like we're

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Speaker 4: everything's great and fine and Danny, we're going to compete. Well,

449
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Speaker 4: you go down to Miami and you have one bad

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Speaker 4: thing happened, a travel CTMs fumble, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: you crap the.

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Speaker 2: Bed, I mean, for lack of a better term. And

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Speaker 2: so I like the fact that there's some adversity right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think it hardens a football team and

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Speaker 4: it teaches them some valuable lessons.

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Speaker 2: And to the offensive line, they were moving guys around

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Speaker 2: all day to day, both sides of the center. I

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Speaker 2: mean Anton Harrison moved to left tackle at one point

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Speaker 2: and then left just teamed up and didn't finish practice

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Speaker 2: today logs and that's we'll see what that what Liam

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Speaker 2: Cohen says tomorrow about.

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Speaker 4: That they've been moving guys around the Caerry oga. Even

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Speaker 4: Anton Harrison got some snaps in one on ones at

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Speaker 4: the other tackle, you know, so so I like it

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Speaker 4: why Milam continues to rep at garden near every position

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Speaker 4: but center.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, he looks really good. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he's not one of the best five

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen on this team. I will tell you this,

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Speaker 2: he's best offensive lineman finishing place. Pretty good thing to have,

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Speaker 2: you know, on your character sheet. That is just plays.

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Speaker 3: No, we're looking for that, We're looking for finish. That's

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Speaker 3: for darn shre And I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you know, really, when you look

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Speaker 3: at the offensive guy line, I've only seen like five practices.

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Speaker 3: But the guy that's pretty much it's Cleveland who's at

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Speaker 3: the left guard, I think, who's been sitting in the

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Speaker 3: same spot. They've been rolling people around. I think it's

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Speaker 3: good to do that. Some of it's because, well, we're

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Speaker 3: prepared if somebody gets hurt. We've got a guy who's got,

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Speaker 3: you know, being trained in another spot. But obviously there's

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Speaker 3: some indecision with that, and so there's still, as I said,

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Speaker 3: trying to find out who's going to be the best bunch.

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Speaker 3: But I like what you said about Milam. I think

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Speaker 3: this younger fella, Manheim, I guess, is also shown some things.

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Speaker 3: I think he can be a backup, you know, in

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Speaker 3: the center position, center guard area. So but I think

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Speaker 3: we got to get these tackles squared away, and and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think they I know they know that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to why I was kind of

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Speaker 4: looking forward to watching till the injury today of Anton Harrison.

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Speaker 4: I was going, you know, could he sneak some reps

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Speaker 4: that left tackle this week in New Orleans or something,

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Speaker 4: you know, because we saw a little bit of that

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Speaker 4: in the first scrimmage inside the stadium. So I hope

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Speaker 4: it's not anything serious with the ankle or whatever lower

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Speaker 4: leg injury that he had.

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Speaker 2: But we'll we'll find out. Monheim just real quick on him.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of.

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Speaker 4: People kind of look at him as only a center

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Speaker 4: at SC Southern Cal. He played a lot of positions

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Speaker 4: and he's got some size to him, so I think

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Speaker 4: he's got flexibility and the one thing that you have

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Speaker 4: to do when you have a backup center, the center's

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Speaker 4: got to be able to play inside at other spots

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Speaker 4: as well. He's got to be able to play left

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Speaker 4: guard and some right guard. And so they've been working

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Speaker 4: Monheim at left guard, right guard, and center, and then

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Speaker 4: he'd been doing the same thing with the incumbent backup center.

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Speaker 2: Oh from Kentucky. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Look, we both had a moment about Luke Fortner to

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Speaker 4: look at my sheet right there, Sorry, Luke. Yeah, And look,

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Speaker 4: I thought Fortner is kind of more of a pure center,

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Speaker 4: and so I think Monheim's got a little little bit

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Speaker 4: of an advantage there, you know, because he has some

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Speaker 4: past experience playing multiple positions.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you know, time will tell. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's come back in a moment. We'll get our Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter update, and we'll get into this Jaguars defense. Some

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Speaker 2: of the personnel. Your thoughts on, especially the linebacker group.

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Speaker 2: That's your fourteen I want dust opinion on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get it good. We'll see if we get

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Speaker 6: It takes us just coming in and being ourselves every day,

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Speaker 6: being true to ourselves. As far as we obviously know

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Speaker 6: it's a physical sport. We all want to come up

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Speaker 6: with here the physical, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: it's either you're gonna win or you're gonna lose, and

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Speaker 6: don't nobody want to lose. So coming there with that mindset,

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Speaker 6: I feel like as far as with our defensive perspective,

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Speaker 6: we want to be physical, want to stop the run.

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Speaker 6: That's our main focus first.

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Speaker 2: That is Trayvon Walker earlier this week Jaguars Defensive End

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy I are from the Hyundai

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Speaker 2: Studios the Miller Electric Center on ten to XL ninety

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Speaker 2: two point five FM. JP Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jags

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Speaker 2: linebacker coach Mark Tufner in studio with his one final

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Speaker 2: segment with you What's Up Bloggers? There was a play

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Speaker 2: today and Duff you might remember it. JP you might

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Speaker 2: as well. In the scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: So I believe Trayvon was the I can't remember if

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Speaker 4: he was right or left because so Ezra is left.

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Speaker 4: So if Trayvon was the left end, Ezra was the

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Speaker 4: left guard. Ezra pulls over to Trayvon. Trayvon sees it coming.

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Speaker 2: It is a collision to end all collisions.

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Speaker 7: And it was. I was.

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Speaker 2: When I was watching it. As they were approaching each other,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is going to hurt. It's gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: And they collided and they both rocked each other to

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Speaker 2: no end.

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Speaker 4: But forty four like just literally like a statue just

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Speaker 4: kind of shucks off Ezra Cleveland and then makes the hit.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going, that's what makes him special, big, strong,

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Speaker 4: powerful and great at the point of attack.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me say this to you. You've defined him

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Speaker 3: very very well, and everybody in the league covets that guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I let more candles and shirts that we

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Speaker 3: would get him when he was coming out, and you

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Speaker 3: can imagine no. And I'm just telling you, I like

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Speaker 3: now that I've seen him upfront and personal sense, the

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Speaker 3: draft and all that, Jesus Pete. I mean, he's terrific.

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Speaker 2: He's a betterdy.

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Speaker 3: He's only going this way. I mean, he's going up, write,

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Speaker 3: write it down. He's going to have a hell of

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Speaker 3: a year.

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Speaker 4: He had a move and I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: remember me talking about this JP last week, but I

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Speaker 4: was saying that he's starting to get back of trick,

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Speaker 4: so to speak, as a pass rusher. You know, the

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Speaker 4: first couple of years, he's power, you know, speed to power,

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Speaker 4: and that's really all all of his game. He did

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Speaker 4: a move on Anton today that was a chop little

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Speaker 4: chop rip and I was like, ooh yeah, And it

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Speaker 4: was natural because you know, Trayvon's such a power guy,

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Speaker 4: and you always have to have the compliments or the

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Speaker 4: calendars to your main primary moves. His main move is

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Speaker 4: a power move. So he was going at Anton and

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Speaker 4: Anton's getting ready to set the anchors out and kind

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Speaker 4: of drops the hips, puts the arms out and then

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Speaker 4: Trayvon is coming at him and then chop boom by

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Speaker 4: him before Anton even knew that he was in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful move. But it's good to see him

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Speaker 2: making that progress.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I, like you said, I think He's only

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Speaker 3: going to get better and better as he continues to

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Speaker 3: define his game in terms of moves and things like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a forced to reckon with now. And

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Speaker 3: you put him together with Josh on the other side

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Speaker 3: of me, you do have two guys that command your attention.

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Speaker 2: Big time coach Mark Dupner in the studio with us,

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Speaker 2: we're talking Jaguars defense. Let's move back to the second

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Speaker 2: level now at linebacker and Foyer Leuikan has been in

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Speaker 2: the league now for a long time, since eighth year

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Been here for a few years. Devin

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Speaker 2: Lloyd former first round draft pick, fourth year, final year

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Speaker 2: of his rookie contract. This year's had Muma was in

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Speaker 2: that same draft. This year of Duela has been around

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Third year now, they just got Dennis

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Speaker 2: Gardeck in and free agency, eighth year player from Arizona

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Speaker 2: his entire career. What are you in a lot of

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Speaker 2: new faces, a lot of young guys. They they've spent

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Speaker 2: some draft capital here this year, Duff. So what's your

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Speaker 2: after five practices or so, your impressions of the linebacker

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Speaker 2: room and and how does it power this defense?

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Speaker 3: Well, each of these guys have a lot of strengths,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think that they can add I mean

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Speaker 3: for you, oh, I know he's a productive player, now

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Speaker 3: is he. I'd like to see him be a little

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Speaker 3: more of a big play player, but you know, in

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Speaker 3: terms of tackles for loss, in terms of uh, winning

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Speaker 3: the one on one sometimes on pressure if they bring

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Speaker 3: him in, you know, affect the quarterback. But he is

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Speaker 3: a very productive player, and that's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 3: How many play how many hits does he make for

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Speaker 3: the number of snaps he's in the game. This guy's

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Speaker 3: led or been at the top of the league in

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Speaker 3: terms of production, and that's that speaks highly that that

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Speaker 3: is I'm impressed with that. You know, Devin's a guy

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Speaker 3: that's got real good length, you know. I I kind

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Speaker 3: of looking at him when he was coming out, I said, wait,

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Speaker 3: we put him at sam linebacker because of his length,

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Speaker 3: and he had some success as a rusher, so you

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Speaker 3: could do some things with him off the edge. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what Anthony's thinking about with him and sub

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Speaker 3: or Nickel defense, if he's going to move him around

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Speaker 3: a little bit to take advantage of some of that

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Speaker 3: rush ability. But I like his length in his range.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's I think he's still learning

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Speaker 3: maybe a little bit in terms of the key and

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Speaker 3: diagnosed part of it a little.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think that I'll say that Combs as a young player,

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Speaker 3: he just tends to be around the football. I like

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Speaker 3: his toughness. I mean, he got involved in the fight

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Speaker 3: the other day with the running back, and I like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I just like the fact that he's competitive,

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Speaker 3: you know, rookie from Wake four yea, and he shows

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Speaker 3: up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Uh. You know.

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Speaker 3: I think that I kind of like Ventro Miller a

648
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Speaker 3: little bit and what I see him do.

649
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Speaker 2: Uh.

650
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think all of them have roles to

651
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: fill right now, but I say the guy that commands

652
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: a lot of my attention just because he's so productive,

653
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: is for you, you know. I mean, I just I've

654
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: admired that that guy's play and it's not easy sometimes

655
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: when if your line is a little bit uh inconsistent,

656
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Speaker 3: to have that guy be as productive as he is.

657
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: And so I think you like that Abdulah. I liked

658
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: him when he was coming out. Another guy that I

659
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: think can give you some edge help and some pressure

660
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: off the edge guard act like we talked about. I mean,

661
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: that guy's had success, true success in games as a rusher,

662
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: and I know he's a good special teams guy. So, uh,

663
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Speaker 3: you know, I think that the group is one that,

664
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Speaker 3: you know, I think is going to add to the

665
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Speaker 3: defense as far as that's concerned. I don't know that

666
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: there's anybody that's a headliner, I mean, just an unbelievable

667
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: guy in that group, but it's a it's a solid group.

668
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Speaker 3: Jack Kayser, I think, is a good player, smart, tends

669
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Speaker 3: to be where he needs to be. You know, I

670
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: don't know, we'll see what his role continues to be,

671
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: but I know they're, you know, they're giving him a

672
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities to show where he can contribute.

673
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Speaker 4: I think the issue there at that position is that,

674
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Speaker 4: you know, besides Foyer, because he's you know, he's a

675
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 4: proven player. Yeah, you know, the rest of him right

676
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 4: now don't have any resume that makes you go wow.

677
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: You know, so you're you're kind of trying to figure

678
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: it out after Foyer.

679
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: And that Gardak might be the closest one to that. Well,

680
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: he's been around the league forever. Well, he's a Sam,

681
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: He's a Sam slash. You know, spinner, slash, edge rusher,

682
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: do it all, special teamer, and he probably has the

683
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: best resume after that. But I mean you're looking at

684
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: trying to find somebody to fill that second linebacker, the

685
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Speaker 2: primary linebacker role, and I don't think it's going to

686
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: be easy. I think it's going to come down to

687
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Speaker 2: the wire.

688
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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a very interesting roster

689
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: decision at this group. Each guy has some some good qualities,

690
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: but there's nobody that stands out yet. And Devin Lloyd,

691
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: you know, as a first round pick, the reality is

692
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: I don't think he's standing out either. You know, he

693
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: still has some issues with not making the right decisions

694
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: at times, So to me, that's something to definitely watch.

695
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: I will say that Branson Colmes, as Duff mentioned, I

696
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: think has been a guy that's grabbed my attention and

697
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: we'll see where that goes. But right now, that's a

698
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: position group to watch very closely. It will be an

699
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Speaker 4: interesting watch the rest of camp. It's now time for

700
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Speaker 4: our Travis Hunter Update, our weekly Travis Hunter Update, and

701
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: this week LOGGS has been both sides of the ball

702
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Speaker 4: in practice, including today in the scrimmage.

703
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Speaker 2: What do you think today twelve.

704
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Speaker 4: I haven't watched a ton of the film yet of him,

705
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: so it's kind of hard to watch just him, you know,

706
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: when you're watching out there. But you know, to go

707
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: back to his play in the first preseason game against Pittsburgh,

708
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: two things of note. One is that you saw that

709
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Speaker 4: players wanted to test and when I say test him

710
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: as far as let's see if he can if we

711
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: can push his button, so to speak, and get him

712
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: to respond after the play and take him out of

713
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: his game. And I don't know if it's a jealousy

714
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: thing like the WNBA has going on or what, but

715
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be interesting to watch as the

716
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: season evolves. The other two is that when he knows

717
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: what he's doing, he's amazing. I mean, he's got the athleticism,

718
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: the movement skills, I mean, all the special qualities that

719
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: made him a Heisman winner. But you do see glimpses

720
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 4: of when he's not sure. And when anybody's not sure,

721
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: then they can't be the supreme athlete that they're capable

722
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: of being. So there's still a lot of learning for

723
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: him going on, and they're still evolving going on, because

724
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: you know, you've got to get them involved with offensive

725
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: defense at the same time, not just hey, we're going

726
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: to play in the preseason game for a series on

727
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: offense and then you know, put you on defense a

728
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: couple series later. You know, if you're going to do

729
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: it truly two ways, it has to be you know,

730
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 4: more of that put into play. And so I think

731
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting to watch how it works in

732
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Speaker 4: New Orleans this week.

733
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Speaker 3: But like you just said, I was. I was impressed

734
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 3: in that first game with how he did handle things

735
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: and especially he I mean, I think it was in

736
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: maybe it was the first drive he was in at corner.

737
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: I think it was.

738
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: They ran a little run playing and he was he

739
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: was going to be the force on the back side there,

740
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 3: and they ran a wind back play and he had

741
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: to come up and we called pin the hip, make

742
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: that tackle, and it should have made it for a

743
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: brilliant no gain. He missed the tackle. They got a

744
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: little bit, he didn't, didn't get unraveled. It's there's no

745
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: lack of toughness. I've seen that kid make those plays

746
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: when I watched him, when we were looking at him

747
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: trying to see what his role was at Colorado. You know,

748
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: so Uh, he's got the toughness and all that. I'm

749
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: with Jeff. I think it's just going to be continued

750
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: repetition for him. So he can, you know, get his

751
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: cleach into the ground, if you will, in terms of

752
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: just settling down and playing.

753
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: But he didn't.

754
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Nobody intimidated him or got him distracted from what his

755
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: focus was. And I think you've got a rare player here. Now,

756
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: I mean that's mister obvious here, but he is really

757
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: good special team I mean athletically.

758
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: Well here, here's what is I think not obvious to

759
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people. If you were to take let's

760
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 4: say a college defensive playbook and a college offensive playbook

761
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: and compare those playbooks to the pro level playbook stuff.

762
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: If you had, let's.

763
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: Say a pro level playbook, we're on a scale of

764
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: zero to one hundred as far as difficulty pros at

765
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: one hundred. Where would a college level playbook rate or

766
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: rank on that zero to one hundred scale.

767
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I think it'd be maybe in the sixties

768
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: or fifties or something like that. I don't maybe it

769
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: would get maybe not that high, maybe not that high.

770
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: I know, Uva, we were like maybe a forty forty,

771
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: maybe a thirty eight.

772
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: Well, elmo, Yeah, Now this University of Virginia at the

773
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Harvard to the south right there, let.

774
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Me take you very complicated.

775
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: Now, his whole coach I happened to talk to you

776
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: this week is linebacker coach. And and of course he

777
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: loves Jeff. But he told me, he said, Duff, this

778
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: guy was the smartest player. And he's coached forever and

779
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: coached a million places, and it was he didn't know

780
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: I was going to say this, but he said that

781
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: he was the smartest player I ever had. All I

782
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: had to do is tell him one time or show

783
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: him one time, and it was done. In fact, he

784
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: said he knew it better than I did.

785
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, you're talking Jeff.

786
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

787
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm sincere, no, no I know, and I'm not trying

788
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: to fatten his head. But this guy, this coach who

789
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: I played ball with in college, uh just couldn't you know,

790
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: couldn't stop talking about not only the intelligence of Jeff,

791
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: but also nobody finished and practiced harder than he did.

792
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: We had two linebackers and Phil Amation was our coach,

793
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 4: and it was me and Billy Griggs and Billy Griggs.

794
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Excuse me, David Griggs.

795
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: Billy Griggs was his older brother who was at UVA

796
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: before him, just like I had an older brother at

797
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: UVA before me, and I was, you know, six foot six,

798
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty thirty five and then David Griggs

799
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: was six foot four, two hundred and thirty five pounds.

800
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about two big, tall inside linebackers.

801
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: Does that You don't find that very often.

802
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: You don't find it anywhere. And I told Elma, I said, Elmo,

803
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: you just chewed gum. You didn't have to coach those two.

804
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Jason Pete there we.

805
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: Have a pretty good payer. And then we had another

806
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: guy who was a backup in a rotation by the

807
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: name of Phil Thomas. It was pretty good too. But

808
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, it wasn't it wasn't very complex in college.

809
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: And but you know, for Travis Hunter, I mean, this

810
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: is this is very different.

811
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: And I think the.

812
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: Challenge, there's a challenge to both offensively and defensively because

813
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: you have a player. And I think the first instinct

814
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: as a coach is, hey, let's just limit the package

815
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: that he's doing, you know, so we can simplify it

816
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: for him. Well, if you get too simple, then you

817
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 4: really I think it's an offense and a defense.

818
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: You get predictable.

819
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 4: So the challenge is is to make sure that you're

820
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: not predictable when twelve is on the field, because you're not,

821
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 4: you know, simplifying it so much, you're still you're still

822
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: running the full playbook on offense and the full playbook

823
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: on defense. For example, you know, if Travis Hunter is

824
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: only learning one of the wide receiver positions, then it

825
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: makes it a little bit easier to kind of get

826
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: the tells. If Travis Hunter is playing all three of

827
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: the wide receiver positions and you're mixing it up, Duff

828
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: as a defensive coordinator, Oh my gosh, I mean, how

829
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: do you figure that out?

830
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Big time.

831
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: No, that's absolutely correct. If they can let him learn

832
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: it and don't give any tips away, because we're always

833
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: looking for that. Anything we can get to, like he said,

834
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: the tells will take. But you get this guy and

835
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: move him around who it's going to be testing now?

836
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: All right, final thought with you here, Duff, what are

837
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: you looking for in the game on Sunday in the Superdome.

838
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: Well, I would say, you know, I think again, first

839
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: and foremost, everybody stay healthy. You know that'll be the

840
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: number one goal come out of the same healthy. But

841
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 3: I think continuing to improve the communication on both sides

842
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: of the ball, alignment, assignment, adjustment being that perfect, not

843
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: giving away snaps. As far as that's concerned, running the football,

844
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: established the run game, show physicality. They may know you're

845
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: running heck with them. I mean, we're coming at you,

846
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: and let's have the confidence in the physicality to do that.

847
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 3: Show defense, let's get after the ball. In terms of takeaways,

848
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: you know, we need to get start making some big plays,

849
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: tackles for loss, takeaways. On the other side of the ball,

850
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: ball security, protecting the ball, so not giving the ball away.

851
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: I think fixing the self inflicted things, you know, the

852
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: penalty situation. Like we talked about not giving up explosive

853
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: passes or explosive runs. On defense, you know, holding those down.

854
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: If we can limit explosives, that'll be good. I think

855
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: the other thing is, you know, our third down defense

856
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: and our red zone defense. I mean, they've been working

857
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: hard on situational football, situational awareness, and you know, let's

858
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: start to make some steps forward in terms of progress

859
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: in those areas. I think the handling the tempo they

860
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: started and did a good job of that today. That'll

861
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Speaker 3: be another focus for their defen And I think, uh,

862
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: you know, let's let's see people take a big step

863
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: forward in terms of competition. You know, let's get these

864
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: starters as close to game ready as possible. Who are

865
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: the starters, and and and let's nail that down. So

866
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: I think a lot of those things are objectives that

867
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: you know, you'd like to see and uh step forward

868
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: in as we go into preseason Game two.

869
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 4: I want to see everything get better. Yeah, I mean, look,

870
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: you game won a game two, you expect a big jump,

871
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: you know in all the areas that we're concerning. You know,

872
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: you want to see significant improvement there. And again, like

873
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: Duff said, stay healthy. You know, I mean, if you

874
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: don't come out of the preseason healthy, then you know,

875
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: it affects your chances to compete during the regular season.

876
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 4: So but you got it's a balance. You know, you've

877
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: got to make sure that you balance it. You know,

878
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 4: the will to get ready, but then also the desires

879
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: to stay healthy. You know, those are things that you

880
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: just have to balance as a head coach. And and

881
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure Liam, Liam's got a handle on that.

882
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: That's uh. He seems to have a really good pulse

883
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: on this team, you know, and that's the that I like.

884
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: He's got a he's got a little moxie. I think

885
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: it is a good word for me. Let's see the

886
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: team respond this week though, in pre season week number

887
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: two against the Saints. Mark Duffner, pleasure to see you.

888
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in and sharing your insights and

889
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: fun to hang out at practice with you. But it's

890
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: really fun to have you here.

891
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: Gil Welch joy for me. I'll tell you that right now.

892
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: I deeply appreciate being with you guys today. Thank you.

893
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Let's do it again soon, I hope. Absolutely. Yeah, awesome.

894
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: That's Mark Dufner, former Jaguars linebacker coach. We're less than

895
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes away from the Liam Cohen Show. James glad Son,

896
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: Tony Boselli will be in studio with us when we

897
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: come back. The injury report and final thoughts, and this

898
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour.

899
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 7: One piece of many things that we're working on trying

900
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 7: to improve, whether it's fundamentals, communication, just simple execution. A

901
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 7: place here in their alignment assignment all of those details

902
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 7: are on port so we're trying to improve everything, not

903
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 7: just the drop here and there.

904
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: Great Ydinski, Jags offensive coordinator. After practice today, the scrimmage.

905
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: Welcome back, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logaman, The Jaguars Happy Hour

906
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: from the Honday Studios inside the Miller of Electric Center.

907
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: We're on ten ten xl AM ninety two point five FM,

908
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube coming up in less than

909
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: ten minutes. The Liam Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

910
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: No coach until Week one of the regular season, but

911
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: yet again James Gladstone and Tony BASSELLI, I'm kind of

912
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: wondering should we not have two shows.

913
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: You have a coach a show and then you have

914
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: a Baselli Gladstone show as well.

915
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, those two together, it's pretty interesting. Fun.

916
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's fun. The two of those guys in

917
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: the same room with us. I mean, I gotta say, Jp,

918
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: the time spent with those two guys over the last

919
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: couple of weeks has been has been a lot of fun,

920
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: really and it just the time just flies by. It

921
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: just like Holy col And.

922
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: You'll learn a lot of football team too, want to

923
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: build get good info and I appreciate the transparency aspect

924
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: of it. And by the way, Duffner was Mark Duffner.

925
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: His last year here was like you said, he worked

926
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Speaker 2: for three different Jaguars head coaches. That tells you what

927
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: kind of personality, what kind of person he is that

928
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: all these new coaches come in and want him around,

929
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and he was great, and he made it through some

930
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: different head coaching changes in Cincinnati as well. Right, they

931
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: doll just got blown out.

932
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, after last year and when Cincinnati had Joe

933
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: Burrow have really was a spectacular year for him, and

934
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: they didn't play very well on defense.

935
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: They ended up blowing everybody out. But you know, dust

936
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: great guy, one of the all time great Jaguar coaches.

937
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever met anybody that would have

938
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: anything bad to say about Mark Duffner. Everybody's big fans

939
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: of duff And you know.

940
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Speaker 4: I hope we can have him on some of our

941
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: programming going on the forward because you know, I love

942
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: the way he thinks.

943
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: Because they're at the end there is like, hey, what

944
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: do you want to see duff He had a whole list.

945
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: He put the head coaching hat back on, is what

946
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: he did. And he's getting Maryland's getting ready for Virginia

947
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: this week. Well he's been a head coach before. Yeah

948
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: what Holy Cross Maryland and moly Cross. Yeah, pretty cool stuff,

949
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: cool stuff. Love having him here. Time for the injury

950
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: report presented by uf Health, the proud healthcare partner of

951
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mason Smith activated from the pup list today.

952
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: Didn't really get out there and the team stuff and

953
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: the one on one side, but working his way back.

954
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: That's good news. Eric Armstead I saw on the side

955
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: today on another field, actually getting some work in with

956
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: an assistant, starting to work on some things with his

957
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: sore back.

958
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: What I saw out of out of both of those guys,

959
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: I would say is very encouraging and you know, may

960
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: take some time, but very very encouraging.

961
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Anton Harrison is the concern though. We'll see. Maybe

962
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: they don't have to tell you anything, but Liam Cohen

963
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: speaks with the media tomorrow after practice and maybe we'll

964
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: get an update on Anton Harrison, who left practice today

965
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: was limp off the field, had to be helped back

966
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: to the building as well.

967
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you hope, you hope nothing nothing serious, but because

968
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, the one thing you like to do is

969
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: going into the season. Open Number one is that I

970
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: still believe you're trying to figure out the combination of

971
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: offensive lineman that you're gonna have. You're also trying to

972
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 4: figure out where everybody best fits, and if you don't

973
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: have everybody available, it's a little difficult to come to

974
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: that decision. So I hope he's okay, and I hope

975
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: that he's able to play.

976
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: In New Orleans and we'll see. I mean, really the

977
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: first time in a little while that he had been

978
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: flipped over the left tackle as well, and that was

979
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: really starting to go. And then Bang gets the injury

980
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: and has to leave.

981
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 4: I can see him in the in the scrimmage today,

982
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: get any snaps that left tackle.

983
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: I saw him get some snacks. I saw him in

984
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: the scrimmage for a second, did you yeah, Okay, I

985
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: missed it. It wasn't long because he wasn't out there

986
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: long he got hurt. And then Fred Johnson came in

987
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: and played some left with the walker little and right,

988
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: and they're working on a lot.

989
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: Of different I think part of it is is that

990
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 4: you know, when you get injuries, you've got to have

991
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: some different combinations that you feel good with. For example,

992
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: you know, let's say Walker Little gets hurt. You know,

993
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 4: what's what's the best player next to put at left tackle? Well,

994
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: maybe that's Anton Harrison. What's the best starting combination opening day?

995
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe that's Anton Harrison, you know. So

996
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: I think a lot of those things are what you

997
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: would put in the category of to be determined. And

998
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: part of the evaluation process is continuing in the next

999
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: game and the following week of practices. And I don't

1000
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: know if they'll play much against Miami, but the practice

1001
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: against Miami, I think all of those things things will

1002
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: be a factor. But by the time you finish up

1003
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: with the practices with Miami, I think you're going to

1004
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: have a pretty good idea.

1005
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: And then Tyson Campbell, Jaguars's cornerback. I don't think they've

1006
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: officially said what it is, but he's been out for

1007
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: the last couple of days, so yeah, And I thought

1008
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: he was having a really good camp.

1009
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if he played great against Pittsburgh, but

1010
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: I thought he was having a really good camp. And

1011
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: he's been super consistent. And what the wide receivers the

1012
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: Jaguars have has been great, A great opportunity for him

1013
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: to get to get work at a pretty good group

1014
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: of wide receivers, and I think he'll be fine. I'll

1015
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 4: be working off to the side today doing some conditioning

1016
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 4: stuff and look pretty good, so I think he's gonna

1017
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: be all right.

1018
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: All Right, there you have it. The injury report is

1019
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: in coming up in just about three minutes or so.

1020
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: It's the Liam Cohen Show. We'll have James Gladstone and

1021
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: Tony Boselli coming up. Preseason Week two, Jaguars at the Saints.

1022
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: The Saints have questions at the quarterback position. You think

1023
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: a lot of New and New Orleans this year, so

1024
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting to see. By the way, Tyler Shuck

1025
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: one of those quarterbacks, the rookie second round pick out

1026
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: of Louisville. How do you pronounce his last shuck? Shut

1027
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: like you're shocking a noise show, but it's spelled show Yeah,

1028
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: like scott h ou g h like Doe with s

1029
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: H show it Scottish, but it's shuck. Yes, Okay, appreciate

1030
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: that because I would have screwed it up on He's

1031
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: a rookie Sunday, for sure, he's a rookie. He is

1032
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: a week a little over a week older than Trevor Lawrence. Okay,

1033
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: they're both more than older in nineteen ninety nine and

1034
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is in year five in the NFL.

1035
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: Well, you knew also it was in an old rookie

1036
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 4: of the Jaguars. Jack Kai is the linebacker from Notre Dame,

1037
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: is going to turn twenty five and first couple of

1038
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 4: weeks of September, so he's another older rookie.

1039
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so I look forward to that. On who's going

1040
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: to start today, I don't think they've figured it out.

1041
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: They had like a practice against the Chargers, I think today,

1042
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: so they were going through some of that stuff today.

1043
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: They got two rookies at the quarterback position. So that's

1044
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: the one.

1045
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: That's one football team. Everybody's like, are they going to

1046
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: be a team that could possibly trade for a Kirk Cousins.

1047
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: But if it was going to happen, you would have

1048
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: think it would have happened by now. Maybe, but you

1049
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: never know.

1050
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: See how they played this week, Maybe they make a

1051
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: change after that, be a little late to get the

1052
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: system digested, but you never know. You never know. We'll

1053
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: see what the Jags having store. Liam Cohen again speaks

1054
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: with the media tomorrow. I'm sure he'll be asked about

1055
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: playing time for the starters and if they're going any

1056
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: further and what came out of the scrimmage today. I

1057
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: think that's all on the table for the head coach tomorrow.

1058
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: Oggs after practice. I've always kind of had the prediction

1059
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: that they would play, but I don't know. You never know.

1060
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 4: I think next week is a great opportunity to get

1061
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: some reps against Miami in a practice setting and not

1062
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 4: playing in the game.

1063
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: But this week against New Orleans.

1064
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: You know today you have scrimmage's Thursday, but you got

1065
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: Friday Saturday to rest. And the great thing is is

1066
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 4: that you know, with these preseason games, it's not like

1067
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: the guy everybody's playing a full game. I mean, you're

1068
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: getting some reps, so you can control the reps where

1069
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: you need to and get some guys out winning. Guess

1070
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: who's early, Tony Biselli.

1071
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: He'll join us on the Liam Cohen Show on the

1072
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network when we return. James Gladstone and Root

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Speaker 2: as well. Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.