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Speaker 1: Let's Giants on the Giants Mobulo, give Me some Job

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Speaker 1: part of the Giants Podcast Networks. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of The Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 1: Today it'll be our Friday show. The video version of

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Speaker 1: this will just be the Brian Burns interview. You can

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Speaker 1: the full Brian Burns interview, but also gives you additional

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Speaker 1: game preview. We have Bram Weinstein, who's the play by

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Speaker 1: playman for the Washington Commanders, and we have Bob Papa

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Speaker 1: with the head coach of the Giants, Brian dabos So.

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Speaker 1: A lot coming your way, but before we get there,

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Speaker 1: but first, I want to make sure that everybody saw

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Speaker 1: everything that we popped up on The Giants Little Podcast

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Speaker 1: this week, because it was a lot going all the

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Speaker 1: way back to last week. We had Jory Epstein and

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer previewing the NFL season and the Giants as well,

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Speaker 1: both great national reporters. Mark Melusis will be my co

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Speaker 1: host on Big Blue Kickoff Live Saturday, which you can

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Speaker 1: you're on WFAN at seven am every Saturday morning. You

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Speaker 1: had our Beat Reporter roundtable Chris Busy Nano from Giants Inside,

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Speaker 1: Art Stapleton, Paul Schwartz from the Record in the post

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Speaker 1: they join Me. We had a good, lively talk about

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Speaker 1: the Giants this year. Then as you moved a little

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Speaker 1: bit further onto the week, we had another Draft season episode.

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Speaker 1: We recapped a very busy first week in college football.

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I got into it. Chris maddog Russo

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Speaker 1: a first timer on The Giants Little Podcast. That's coming.

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Speaker 1: We're on Saturday. We talk Giants mostly, but we talk

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Speaker 1: a little NFL overall as well. So just a really

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Speaker 1: really fun week on the Giants Little Podcast. Make sure

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Speaker 1: everyone goes and checks out all of those episodes. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. We're gonna lead off with Giants

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Speaker 1: edge rusher Brian Burns talking about the off season, the

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Speaker 1: upcoming season, what he's thinking, his captainship, and of course

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Speaker 1: the matchup against the Commanders. Joining me in the Hackensack

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Speaker 1: Marine Health Podcast studio. Keep Getting Better is Giants defender,

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Speaker 1: edge player, outside linebacker, defensive end. Take your pick. He's

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Speaker 1: Brian Burns. Brian, what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man's going good?

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Speaker 1: So you've been at this a while now, and I

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Speaker 1: feel I gotta imagine over the course of an offseason

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Speaker 1: you kind of get a feel for a team and

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Speaker 1: how they're coming together. You haven't played a game yet,

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Speaker 1: so it remains to be seen. But what's your feel

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Speaker 3: The energy is high. It feels different from last year.

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Speaker 3: And you know, every year you feel hopeful, you feel excited,

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Speaker 3: it just feels different, you know. I feel like everybody's

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Speaker 1: One thing Brian Dables talked a little bit about, and

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Speaker 1: I wonder of why this is why it feels different,

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Speaker 1: is what part of the difference is and what you

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Speaker 3: I think that plays a big part, and I definitely

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Speaker 3: And I feel like that's what brings the team together.

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Speaker 1: When you have someone like Russell Wilson come into the

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Speaker 2: He's done it. Yeah, yeah, no, it definitely does. You know.

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Speaker 3: But you know, to see a guy like him, the

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Speaker 3: He's a nice guy, but he's also done this at

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Speaker 2: So it's good to have him as our leader.

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Speaker 1: You know, is it odd to see a quarterback even

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's odd, you know, the quarterback is

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Speaker 1: Talk about leadership. I know you wanted to try to

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Speaker 1: be a better leader and be a leader this offseason.

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Speaker 1: You're an into captain. So what you talk about leading

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Speaker 1: in different ways? What does player driven leadership mean to you?

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Speaker 1: How do you assert your leadership on the team on defense?

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Speaker 2: To uphold that standard. You know, sometimes I will.

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Speaker 2: And the same way I.

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Speaker 3: Hold y'all accountable or hold y'all up to the standard,

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Speaker 3: y'all should hold me up to the standard as well.

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Speaker 2: So I'm free for anybody.

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Speaker 3: To call me out. And if they call me out,

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Speaker 3: I don't have any excuses or nothing like that. I'm

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Speaker 1: So is that why leadership is important, so that there

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Speaker 1: But to have to look your fellow teammate in the

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Speaker 2: It is, and that's why that's why I too.

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Speaker 3: I go by example like it's it's I'm not going

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Speaker 1: So what's it cool to be named captain?

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Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, it was cool. It was real cool,

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Speaker 1: All right, So a lot of editions on defense. We

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Speaker 1: The pulse and the Deebos, the Javon Hollands throwing abdu

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Speaker 1: Quartern or Droy for Robertson Harris. Now that you've seen

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Speaker 3: It's been a great impact, honestly, I would say from

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Speaker 3: I don't even have to say anything to Roy because

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Speaker 3: he already knows. That's just the level of ball he's

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Speaker 3: this thing as well. But it's just an experience, like

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Speaker 3: they just I just feel like I'm playing with some ballers,

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Speaker 1: And then card of the rookie we spoke back in June.

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Speaker 1: The pads have not gone on yet. You said, I

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Speaker 1: want to see when pads go on, what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: What it looked like with pads on.

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Speaker 3: It looked damn good. It looked good, man. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Carter has unbelievable traits you and me. He has a motor.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's going he's gonna be a great, a

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Speaker 1: Obviously, did the power show up once the pads come on?

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Speaker 2: He has it. He has it.

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Speaker 3: He has his quick twitch, and he can get to

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Speaker 1: And another thing we talked about in June was you

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Speaker 1: give away state secrets, but have you seen it? Expand?

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Speaker 1: Is as menu larger? Given the new pieces here are

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I wouldn't necessarily necessarily say larger.

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Speaker 3: I would just say that the details have become a

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Speaker 1: And I assume since the guys aren't so young, you

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Speaker 1: can there's a bigger trust actor, right, Yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 1: if you give them more that they can, you.

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Speaker 2: Can put it on that plate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can definitely put whatever you want on their

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Speaker 1: It, all right. The pass rush, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: ask you how exciting it's going to be. What do

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Speaker 1: you even not know what's gonna look like when you

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Speaker 1: finally do get a team into a third and eight

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Speaker 1: or a third and nine, when who knows who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the field. What could fans expect when you

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Speaker 1: do get teams into those passing situations.

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Speaker 3: I really just want to say, four crazy men going

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Speaker 3: look like, honestly, just absolute, relentless, relentless, just trying to

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Speaker 3: try to scheme us, chip us, double team, all that

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Speaker 3: type of stuff, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: once we have a lead, you can't.

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Speaker 2: Do that for so much longer. Otherwise you're just gonna

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Speaker 3: So when we get into those those situations where they

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Speaker 3: just have to block us with the five linemen that

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Speaker 3: they have, it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: And that's only rushing four times. If you bring your

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Speaker 1: fifth game, they got to know one on one, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we're gonna need five, but if

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Speaker 3: we do use five, if we do use five, yeah,

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Speaker 3: good night, Irene.

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Speaker 1: I love it. You mentioned taking getting a lead and

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Speaker 1: Same deal the run game. No more Brian Robinson, he

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Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you? New season, another season

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Speaker 6: I think they have a better team than they did

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Speaker 6: bigger than it looks on film. He's a very good

438
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Speaker 6: pass catcher, and they're very excited about him, but they're

439
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Speaker 6: slow rolling him. So I would say, you could probably

440
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Speaker 6: ask me this quote five times during the season, and

441
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Speaker 6: I have a different answer, because I think it's going

442
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Speaker 6: to be they're going to rely on very different people

443
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Speaker 6: throughout the course of the season. My gut says you're

444
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Speaker 6: gonna see a lot of Austin Eckler in Week one,

445
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Speaker 6: But when they play the Giants again, I couldn't tell

446
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Speaker 6: you what.

447
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Speaker 4: It's going to look like.

448
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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. Offensive coordinators always tend to evolve as they

449
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Speaker 1: move along here. Offenses are never the same one year

450
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Speaker 1: to the next. You talk about all these personnel changes

451
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Speaker 1: they made outside and on the offensive line, how off

452
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Speaker 1: at all do you think this offense schematically might look

453
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Speaker 1: different under Cliff in year number two.

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Speaker 4: So it's not even just him.

455
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Speaker 6: The whole staff is back, And think about who's on

456
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Speaker 6: their staff, Cliff Kingsbury, Anthony Lynn, Joe Witt.

457
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Speaker 4: Who got interviews.

458
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Speaker 6: You know, like they have a very deep staff off

459
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Speaker 6: a twelve and five team. They came back in tax,

460
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Speaker 6: so they're very lucky that nobody ended up leaving off

461
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Speaker 6: of in I think it's a big deal as they

462
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Speaker 6: head into the season.

463
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Speaker 4: How does it look different? That's a really good open question.

464
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Speaker 6: So throughout the summer, Tunsall was in and out of

465
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Speaker 6: the lineup minor injury stuff. Brandon Coleman got dinged up,

466
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Speaker 6: was barely practicing for three weeks. Sam coused Me didn't

467
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Speaker 6: because he's coming off of the ACL injury and hasn't

468
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Speaker 6: been out there. Terry McLaurin had a protracted contract stalemate

469
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Speaker 6: and wasn't practicing with the team, and Noah Brown missed

470
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Speaker 6: a lot of time with an injury as well. They

471
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Speaker 6: never had their starting unit out on the field during

472
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Speaker 6: training camp at any point in time until the very end.

473
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Speaker 6: So now that we're not watching practice anymore, the answer

474
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Speaker 6: I'm going to give you is, I don't know, because

475
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Speaker 6: what I would have told you during camp was it's.

476
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Speaker 4: Not clicking right now.

477
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Speaker 6: But there's just a lot of moving parts and a

478
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Speaker 6: lot of missing parts, so it's hard to know what

479
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Speaker 6: it's going to be. I do trust Cliff, I trust

480
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Speaker 6: number five that it's going to end up being just

481
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Speaker 6: fine and it's going to work out. I do think

482
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Speaker 6: the addition of Deebo Samuel is the force multiplier here.

483
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Speaker 4: How much of the running game is he part of?

484
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Speaker 1: Much?

485
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Speaker 4: Is he the movable part through all of this?

486
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Speaker 6: So when people talk about their run game like who's

487
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Speaker 6: gonna get the carries, It's gonna get a lot of people.

488
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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels had the most rush yards of any quarterback

489
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Speaker 6: in the NFL a year ago. Deebo Samuel figures to

490
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Speaker 6: get at least a few carries a game, and then

491
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Speaker 6: all these different running backs will be utilized in different ways.

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Speaker 6: It's a long answer to I'm not really sure, and

493
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Speaker 6: I'm as curious as you to see what it looks

494
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Speaker 6: like on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Final question on the offense before I jump over to

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Speaker 1: the defense here, Bram, who's the third wide receiver? And

497
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Speaker 1: I guess the second part of it. Does that matter

498
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Speaker 1: as much? Or are we going to see the Commanders

499
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Speaker 1: play a lot of twelve personnel with two tight ends

500
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Speaker 1: on the field, something I thought they did a really

501
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Speaker 1: good job of last year.

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Speaker 6: Yes, because John Bates might as well be an offensive lineman.

503
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Speaker 6: So when he's he you'll not catch a lot. He's

504
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Speaker 6: maybe the best blocking tight end in the NFL. So yeah,

505
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Speaker 6: they will have a lot of you know, two tight

506
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Speaker 6: end sets for sure, but not for him to be

507
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Speaker 6: a pass catcher in general.

508
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Speaker 4: He'll catch a few here and there. Who's the third

509
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Speaker 4: wide receiver?

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Speaker 6: It's interesting you asked that because last year we were

511
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Speaker 6: asking who's the number two wide receiver? It all ended

512
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Speaker 6: up working out for them. So the number three, if

513
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Speaker 6: you're asking, is Noah Brown?

514
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Speaker 4: Like that is? Now?

515
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Speaker 6: How healthy is he going to be. He had a

516
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Speaker 6: really big impact for them a year ago after they

517
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Speaker 6: got him, after he was waived late in the preseason

518
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Speaker 6: and then he had an internal injury that ended his season.

519
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Speaker 4: We weren't sure if he was coming back.

520
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Speaker 6: Came back, got an injury in mini camp, came back

521
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Speaker 6: to training camp, got another injury, missed a lot of

522
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Speaker 6: time in camp. So he's someone that they've been relying on,

523
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Speaker 6: but I'm not sure how much we can rely on him.

524
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Speaker 6: So right now, in name, he's the number three. It's

525
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Speaker 6: McLaurin brown debo. If he's not able to be there

526
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Speaker 6: week in, week out, then that's that's gonna be an

527
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Speaker 6: interesting one. They liked this rookie, Jalen Lane, who really

528
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Speaker 6: was drafted to kind of be their primary punt returner.

529
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Speaker 6: He was really good at Virginia Tech. He's got four

530
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Speaker 6: to three speed. Because of all the injuries and the

531
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Speaker 6: contractual thing with McLaurin, he got a lot of opportunities

532
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Speaker 6: on the outside and I don't think they ever intended

533
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Speaker 6: him to do that, but they needed people out there

534
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Speaker 6: and he.

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Speaker 4: Actually flashed a few times.

536
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Speaker 6: So if there's someone that will emerge for them as

537
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Speaker 6: someone that they kind of lean on. If Brown is

538
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Speaker 6: not available to them, it will be jailing lane.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's jump over to the defense. Brim their defensive front.

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Speaker 1: They don't have that kind of one elite pass rush

541
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Speaker 1: or a team will you know, circle with a red

542
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Speaker 1: sharpie and say, all right, we got to block that guy.

543
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Speaker 1: Von Miller was that guy. I'm not sure if he

544
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Speaker 1: still was at his age. Is this still going to

545
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Speaker 1: be more of a use a lot of twists, stunts,

546
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Speaker 1: move guys around. Blit's a little bit to try to

547
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Speaker 1: use all the composite parts together along with the scheme

548
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Speaker 1: to have a consistent pass rush.

549
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Speaker 4: Yes, they really.

550
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Speaker 6: There were two things that were very important to them

551
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Speaker 6: in the offseason with the defense. One was to get

552
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Speaker 6: bigger on the defensive line and get deeper on the

553
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Speaker 6: defensive line, and it will be noticeable. You'll see it.

554
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Speaker 6: Javon Kinlaw is a monster right like he makes Deron

555
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Speaker 6: Payne looked small. They went and got Dietrich Wise from

556
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Speaker 6: New England. So and they're very deep with veterans across

557
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Speaker 6: the defensive line. But you're right, there isn't Michaeh Parsons

558
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Speaker 6: on this team or for you got three of them.

559
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Speaker 6: You know, we think we don't have any that are

560
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Speaker 6: like Brian Burns or Thibodeau or.

561
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Speaker 4: Potentially Abdol Carter.

562
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Speaker 6: So that is still someone that I think they'll tell

563
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Speaker 6: you they don't think that they need the personification of

564
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Speaker 6: this person that they believe they can get their pass rush.

565
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Speaker 6: What I think you'll see is there's a lot of

566
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Speaker 6: confidence in the corner room now. Marshall Lattimore healthy, Trey Amos,

567
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Speaker 6: their second round pick, has totally looked apart. Day one

568
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Speaker 6: starter Mike Sanders still led a great rookie season, goes

569
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Speaker 6: back to the inside and they believe that's where he's

570
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Speaker 6: gonna thrive. Had an outstanding rookie season for them. And

571
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Speaker 6: they're deep there too. Noah Igbinogny Jonathan Jones former Patriot,

572
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 6: are their two primary backups. They're very deep. They're ball

573
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Speaker 6: hawking type players. The thing that they lamented last year

574
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Speaker 6: more than anything wasn't the sack. They didn't get enough turnovers.

575
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Speaker 6: They were, you know, bottom half of the league and

576
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Speaker 6: turnovers caused. So there were two things they wanted to

577
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Speaker 6: deal with. One, can they get playmakers on the back end.

578
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Speaker 6: They feel they have them now and secondarily, can they

579
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Speaker 6: stop the run, And they felt they needed to get

580
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Speaker 6: much more formidable upfront to do that. So I think

581
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Speaker 6: you're going to see a lot of package. It's a

582
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Speaker 6: long way of saying I think you're going to see

583
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Speaker 6: a lot of packages. You're going to see a large

584
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Speaker 6: group to try to limit the run, to get in

585
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Speaker 6: better third down situations. And the hope is to, as

586
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Speaker 6: you put it, generate a pass rush from I don't

587
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Speaker 6: know who, and I don't know how, and I don't

588
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Speaker 6: know how they're going to do it, but generate a

589
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Speaker 6: pass rush to force balls into potentially hazardous situations where

590
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Speaker 6: they believe they have playmakers on the other side.

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Speaker 4: And that's the plan. So we'll see how it works out.

592
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the run defense. That was gonna make my

593
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Speaker 1: follow up because I think both the Giants and the

594
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Speaker 1: Commanders had issues stopped the run last year. Do they

595
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Speaker 1: think and look, and I tell fans that call us

596
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Speaker 1: about this all the time, you, yeah, can't really tell

597
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Speaker 1: how good the run defense is in practices. You're not

598
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Speaker 1: tackling to the ground. It's not the same as a

599
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Speaker 1: real game situation. Do they feel like they've done enough

600
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Speaker 1: to address that run defense?

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Speaker 6: They think they have, but you know, again, I agree

602
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Speaker 6: with you.

603
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Speaker 4: We have to see it.

604
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Speaker 6: And you know, unfortunately they're not playing believe it or not,

605
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Speaker 6: they're not playing the Eagles until week sixteen. That's the

606
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Speaker 6: last time they actually play them. They are our opponent

607
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Speaker 6: in two of the last three games. So I guess

608
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Speaker 6: you know that's where you get tested, tested, tested. But

609
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Speaker 6: the Giants have an emerging run game here now too,

610
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Speaker 6: so it's a good interesting first test. Josh Jacobs is

611
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Speaker 6: for them in week two and Askton Genties for them

612
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Speaker 6: in week three, So I think we're gonna find out

613
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 6: very quickly where they are. They felt they just needed

614
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Speaker 6: to get bigger on the edge more than anything, and

615
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Speaker 6: they did accomplish that. Does that mean they have a

616
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Speaker 6: better run defense. We'll find out.

617
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Speaker 1: You already talked about the corners. I was gonna ask

618
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Speaker 1: about them. I thought you ran that down really well.

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Speaker 1: The linebackers a very unique group. You know. Bobby Wagner

620
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Speaker 1: seems to be taking found the foundin of you somewhere.

621
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Speaker 1: He keeps playing great football. And then Frankie Luva is

622
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Speaker 1: just this like hybrid blitzer guy who's a really good player.

623
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Speaker 1: I really love the way dan Quinn uses as linebackers.

624
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think of the question of who's where the

625
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 6: sacks is gonna come from, my gut says Luver's gonna

626
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 6: lead the team in sacks. That's what I think is

627
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 6: gonna end up happening this year because they're gonna use

628
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Speaker 6: him as a stand up pass rusher, a blitzer, and

629
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Speaker 6: because of the size up front, they're hoping to get

630
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Speaker 6: some to generate some opportunities for people like him. So

631
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Speaker 6: that would be my guess. I think we're gonna have

632
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 6: a lot of guys with four or five six sacks.

633
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Speaker 6: He might be the one with double digits if I

634
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Speaker 6: were to guess at who that would actually be, if

635
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Speaker 6: anyone is going to have it this year for them.

636
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 6: I like how they use their linebackers too. They have

637
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 6: hinted they might use three linebackers a little more than

638
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 6: they have in the past. That means Jordan McGee would

639
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 6: play more. He was a mid round draft pick, I

640
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 6: think fifth round a year ago, had a lot of injuries,

641
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Speaker 6: kind of he's having what might as well be like

642
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 6: kind of a red shirt year for them. They're very

643
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Speaker 6: high on him.

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Speaker 4: I think the.

645
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Speaker 6: Goal is is that he ends up being the heir

646
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Speaker 6: apparent to Bobby Wagner in a year or two, and

647
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Speaker 6: so I think you're gonna see him on field as well.

648
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Speaker 6: They did use some draft ass sets on linebacker again

649
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: this year. I don't know how much they're going to factor.

650
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 6: You know, early there was an undrafted free agent that

651
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: made the team at that position, and there was a

652
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: late round pick who's really more like a hybrid safety

653
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: slash linebacker. He's got speed. They so they're trying to

654
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Speaker 6: find answers there and they know that Wagner's not.

655
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Speaker 4: Going to be here forever. But I agree with you,

656
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Speaker 4: I like to use them too.

657
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Speaker 6: I think like what you're going to see, and they've

658
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 6: already said this publicly, you're going to see a much

659
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Speaker 6: more aggressive style from them than they had a year ago.

660
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Speaker 6: This is going to be way more reminiscent stylistically of

661
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Speaker 6: the group that they had in Dallas a couple of

662
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Speaker 6: years ago. And the hope is that it's going to

663
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Speaker 6: turn into turnovers, which was really the secret recipe of

664
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Speaker 6: those Dallas defenses was they were flipping games upside down

665
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Speaker 6: with so many turnovers. And I think that's the hope

666
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Speaker 6: here in Washington this year too.

667
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then brand you led into my final question perfectly.

668
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Speaker 1: You talked about the personnel and the defensive backfield. I

669
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Speaker 1: feel like last year Quinn at the lead into a

670
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Speaker 1: little bit more too high, safe the stuff and little

671
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Speaker 1: cover two. I feel like he has the personnel now.

672
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Speaker 1: If they have the type of confidence in trams that

673
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Speaker 1: you're talking about, well, we're going to see much more

674
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Speaker 1: that traditional dan Quinn Cover one, Cover three, single high,

675
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Speaker 1: and that I think leans into the type of being

676
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Speaker 1: more aggressive type of defense that you're talking about.

677
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Speaker 6: Yes, they believe they have press corners now. They trust

678
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 6: these corners now, they believe they can play more man now,

679
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Speaker 6: and they're going to put.

680
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Speaker 4: Them to the test now.

681
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of that has to do with

682
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Speaker 6: Marshaun Lattimore remaining healthy, which he has not been able

683
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Speaker 6: to do for the last couple of years. When they

684
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Speaker 6: acquired him, you know, mid season last year, they knew

685
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Speaker 6: he was injured and they didn't know what they would

686
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Speaker 6: get out of him for the rest of that season.

687
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Speaker 6: But they needed help dramatically that position group, and they

688
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 6: were hoping that he would be he would be a

689
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Speaker 6: help for them a year ago, but they really acquired

690
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Speaker 6: him for a long term, and he's looked healthy throughout camp.

691
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Speaker 6: If he is going to be back to the way

692
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Speaker 6: he was a few years ago, where he's a Pro

693
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Speaker 6: Bowl caliber corner in New Orleans, then I think that

694
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Speaker 6: what they're envisioning is possible here.

695
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Speaker 4: That they can be a very aggressive group.

696
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Speaker 6: They don't have to play back as much, and they're

697
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: going to test their corners and they're going to put

698
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Speaker 6: a lot on them. And who better do they get

699
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Speaker 6: a test against the Elik neighbors this weekend. I think

700
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Speaker 6: it's a first, real good test to see where they are.

701
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Speaker 6: I'll be very interested to see if he ends up

702
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Speaker 6: lined up on Trey Amos, because that's gonna be a

703
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Speaker 6: heck of a welcome to the NFL for him.

704
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be a fun matchup to watch. Bram good Stuff,

705
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the game on Sunday. We appreciate time as always,

706
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: and good luck this season. I guess just not too

707
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Speaker 1: much luck.

708
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you too. Thanks appreciating.

709
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Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

710
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Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your man.

711
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Speaker 7: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan,

712
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 7: you should talk to citizens.

713
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Speaker 4: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to

714
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Speaker 4: learn about a Mollia routine.

715
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Speaker 2: Yes, I knew I.

716
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Speaker 4: Could help make sense of your money with citizens.

717
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Speaker 1: Great stuff from Bram as always. Now we turn to

718
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Speaker 1: our weekly interview with the head coach of the nyg

719
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Speaker 1: the Voice of the Giants, Bob Papa with Brian Dable.

720
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Speaker 7: As always, we're joined by the head coach of the

721
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Speaker 7: New York Giants, Brian Dables. We get set for the

722
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Speaker 7: season opener against the Commanders here in Landover, Maryland and

723
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Speaker 7: coach obviously to kick off this season, a lot of

724
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Speaker 7: excitement within the building. Just talk about the way your

725
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 7: team is prepared, not only in the spring, but throughout

726
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Speaker 7: training camp in the summer, and kind of the excitement

727
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 7: level that they've brought this year to the team.

728
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the guys have come in, they've really had a

729
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 5: discipline approach about the way they're handling their jobs. You know,

730
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: they've they've built some strong relationships in the offseason and

731
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Speaker 5: you know, improved every day throughout training camp and you know,

732
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: did some good things in the preseason. Had a good

733
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Speaker 5: week of practice here. I think everybody's ready to get

734
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Speaker 5: this game going.

735
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Speaker 7: You know, we've talked so much about the eternal optimism

736
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 7: that Russell Wilson brings, whether it's in his meetings dealing

737
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 7: with his teammates. Has that spread over to the defensive

738
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Speaker 7: side of the ball as well.

739
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Russ has been been a good leader for us

740
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: off the field, on the field, offense, special teams, kicking game.

741
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: He's a guy that's played in this league for a

742
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 5: long time at a high level. You know, it's been

743
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: very successful and I think he has done a good job

744
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: of bringing guys along with them.

745
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Speaker 7: Is there still jitters on opening day when you get

746
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 7: to the professional level.

747
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, opening day is a unique unique you

748
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: never know, you know what you're gonna get. You can prepare,

749
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Speaker 5: you know, throughout the off season and in training camp

750
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Speaker 5: and you know, getting up to this week of really

751
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: diving into it. But you know they've they've done the

752
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: same thing as well. So again, these these games come

753
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Speaker 5: down to fundamentals, to blocking, to throwing, to catching, to

754
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 5: making good decision, taking care of the football, tackling, shedding blocks,

755
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 5: kicking the ball. Well, it's it's the basic things that

756
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 5: you need to do as football team to give yourself

757
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: a chance to win.

758
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Speaker 7: Was that one of the things that was kind of

759
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Speaker 7: on your mind going into the preseason as far as

760
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 7: you know, you got starters, some decent reps in preseason

761
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 7: action to kind of hit the ground a little bit

762
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Speaker 7: more running in week number one as opposed to, you know,

763
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Speaker 7: keeping guys on the side and trying to protect them

764
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Speaker 7: and rest them a little bit.

765
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always a balance to that, but I thought,

766
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Speaker 5: you know, for our football team, that's what we needed.

767
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 5: We needed to go out there and play, and you know,

768
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Speaker 5: I think we did a good job with with a

769
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Speaker 5: lot of the fundamentals things you can correct off of.

770
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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully you can see that in beginning part

771
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Speaker 2: of the season.

772
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Speaker 7: Coach, you had mentioned to us during camp that you

773
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Speaker 7: were going to mix things up a little bit because

774
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Speaker 7: you never know what's going to happen in a game.

775
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Speaker 7: And you know, you did it in that preseason game

776
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 7: with the Jets where Jackson Dark came in for one

777
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 7: play and then Russell Wilson was back in the game

778
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Speaker 7: and different things that you did during the preseason and

779
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Speaker 7: training camp. You know, we saw that play out in

780
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Speaker 7: real time on Thursday night with that bizarre situation at

781
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Speaker 7: the beginning of the game, and then there's an objection.

782
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Speaker 7: Is that sort of what you were thinking of, Like,

783
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Speaker 7: we could plan all the stuff that we want to plan,

784
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Speaker 7: but something crazy can happen. How do we react immediately?

785
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a game of adjustments. Where the guy gets injured,

786
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 5: guy gets ejected. You know, you have a poor call

787
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: go against you. You know there's a lot of things

788
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: that are going to happen throughout a game, and you

789
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: know you try to do the best job you can

790
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 5: prepare for those things. You can't prepare for everything, but

791
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: you know, the key is to stay disciplined in your approach,

792
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 5: in your process, be able to play the next play

793
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: regardless of what happens, to play before the series, before

794
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 5: the half before. You know, got to be focused on,

795
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: you know, one play at a time and doing your

796
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 5: job at a high level.

797
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Speaker 7: Washington certainly gives you a lot of things to focus on.

798
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Speaker 7: And we'll start with their quarterback Jaden Daniels, who was

799
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 7: brilliant last year as a rookie, and you saw as

800
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 7: the year went on, he just kept getting better and

801
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 7: better and better. What are some of the things Obviously

802
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 7: we know about his ability to run, but sort of

803
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 7: his decision making that puts so much pressure on a defense. Yeah,

804
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 7: I mean, he's a total package relative to playing a

805
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 7: quarterback position. He's a very difficult person to defend with

806
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 7: his arm, with his legs, and with his mind. You've

807
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 7: seen a tremendous amount of growth as the season went on.

808
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 7: Proper decision making when to leave the pocket, when to

809
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 7: make yards with his legs, when to throw the ball away,

810
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 7: doesn't put the ball in jeopardy very much, gives his

811
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 7: playmakers opportunities to make the ball. And he's you know,

812
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 7: five skilled guys really have six with him relative to

813
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Speaker 7: what he can do both with his arm and his

814
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 7: leg and that makes it difficult on any defense. And

815
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Speaker 7: then we all know that Terry McLaurin is a fantastic

816
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 7: player and one of the better receivers in the National

817
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 7: Football League. Add Deebo Samuel to the mix, who has

818
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 7: more rushing yards than any wide receiver in the NFL

819
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Speaker 7: going back to twenty twenty one, almost yards rushing. How

820
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 7: do you prepare for an insertion of that kind of

821
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 7: player into their lineup, you know, not having seen it,

822
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: you know in real time.

823
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: Really, what it's going to come down to game day

824
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 5: is running to the football and making tackles against high

825
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 5: quality players in this league that you know you've seen

826
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 5: break tackles and go the distance plenty of times throughout

827
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 5: their career. Not only that they can run right by you.

828
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: You know, you throw the balls up to seventeen, which

829
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: they do plenty. Makes it a difficult challenge. And then

830
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: you add veterans like Ertz and Eckler who have played

831
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: this game at a high level for a long time

832
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 5: and know how to play it. It's a very difficult

833
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 5: offense to defend. That's why they score a lot of points.

834
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: That's why they've increased their point total, you know, more

835
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: than any team since two thousand in terms of nine

836
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 5: points per game. Situational football, they're very good at. It's

837
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 5: a difficult offense.

838
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 7: Got to go to the other side of the here defensively, obviously,

839
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 7: you know they've got pain in the middle. He was

840
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 7: a pro bowler a couple of years ago. They've added

841
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 7: some veteran pieces to it. Louvo was very active. Von

842
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 7: Miller has now been brought in as a veteran guy

843
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 7: to get after the quarterback. And it looks like Bobby

844
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 7: Wagner just hasn't lost a step. What are some of

845
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 7: the challenges that they face defensively and some things that

846
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 7: they just do really well.

847
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, very talented group, veteran defensive line with pain and

848
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: kin Law and Armstrong and Wise. You had Newton in

849
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: there from Illinois, that's a young player, and then obviously

850
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: bringing Vaughn in and like you said, Bobby and Louv.

851
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: I think those are two challenging middle linebackers who bring

852
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 5: it every time. You know, they do a great job

853
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: blitzing running over backs, very instinctive players. So it's a

854
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: challenging to play this team relative to you know, they

855
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 5: get up with points, their defense is fast and can

856
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: play the football and get the turnovers. And you know,

857
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 5: coach Quinn and coach went run a difficult scheme once

858
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 5: you get to third down in those passing situations and

859
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 5: the looks they give you, so total team coach.

860
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 7: Finally, going back to the opening day theme, You've participated

861
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 7: in a whole bunch of Super Bowls, National championship games.

862
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 7: You know opening day has that extra energy. Is it

863
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 7: important to remind your team to, you know, take a

864
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 7: deep breath here, because you want to let the game

865
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 7: just settle in and let it become a game and

866
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: not get too over hyped or or expend too much

867
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 7: energy right out of the shoot and then you kind

868
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 7: of get gassed. How do you manage stuff like that?

869
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about it, Bob, which I think is important.

870
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: But you let these guys go.

871
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: Every player prepares differently when they're sitting down and getting

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Speaker 5: ready to play a game on game day, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think the veterans add good insight to the rookies,

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Speaker 5: and ultimately you're ready to go once that, you know,

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Speaker 5: go out to the coin toss and strap it up

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Speaker 5: and get it on.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's see, let's get it going.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 7: I'm fired up. I think the fans are fired up.

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Speaker 7: I know you and your team are ready to go,

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Speaker 7: and we're looking forward to this twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 7: Best of luck today, coach, Thanks Bob.

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Speaker 1: Join us at the Ultimate New York Giants Women's Tailgate,

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Speaker 1: presented by Joe Malone. It'll take place on Sunday, September

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth, from ten am to noon in a lot

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Speaker 1: g ahead of the Giants Week four game against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Attendees will have a chance to connect with Giants team

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Speaker 1: reporter and tailgate host Metal and Burke and some Giants legends.

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Speaker 1: They can enjoy a created custom merchandise shop, exclusive Kendris

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Speaker 1: Scott activation, tailgate games, giveaways, photos, live DJ, entertainment and more.

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Speaker 1: Tailgate food and one drink ticket are included with the

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Speaker 1: ticket purchase twenty one or older only. We thank Giants

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Speaker 1: head coach Brian Dable for joining us. We thank Brian Burns,

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Speaker 1: We thank Bram Weinstein. As the Giants try to start

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Speaker 1: their season fast with two Big Time Division games against

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Speaker 1: the Commanders and the Cowboys. Commanders first up in our

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Speaker 1: nation's capital in week number one. Thank you to all

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Speaker 1: our guests for joining us on the Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelck. We will see you next time.