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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the wire to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one, Tay.

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Speaker 1: In the show, we're talking about our latest shid hunting exploits,

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Speaker 1: discussing our two thousand seventeen hunting trips, and sharing recommendations

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Speaker 1: and thoughts on planning d I Y hunting trips. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Sitka Gear. And today in the show, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about our two thousand seventeen hunting plans, just

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Speaker 1: me and Damn. And as we talked about some of

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Speaker 1: this stuff, I want to talk more in general too

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Speaker 1: about you know, how we plan our hunting seasons, how

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Speaker 1: we plan specific trips, um some different advice and recommendations

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Speaker 1: and lessons learned on how we've done that in the past,

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Speaker 1: what we're planning on doing the future. You know, how

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Speaker 1: we decide where to go, what geared to bring, how

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Speaker 1: to learn about these different places or different species or

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um. So that's kind of the game

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Speaker 1: plan for today, Dan, But before we get into that stuff.

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Speaker 1: We do have a couple of interesting updates from more recently,

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Speaker 1: don't we. Yeah, my my uh wife made a delicious

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Speaker 1: crisp today, A crisp like an apple crisp. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it was an apple. It was like raspberry, some kind

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Speaker 1: of mixed berry jam thing and it, uh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you right now, it's delicious. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of crisps. I like a good a good berry crisp.

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Speaker 1: B peach cobbler. Does a peach kybler count as a crisp? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It can? Is the top crispy, I would say. Typically, Well,

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Speaker 1: then I feel it should fall in the crisp category. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good in an apple crisp obviously obviously. Yeah, so good,

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Speaker 1: we're on the same page. I'm hungry though now I know.

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Speaker 1: I had a small little bowl of it with a

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Speaker 1: nice cold glass of milk, and and here I am

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Speaker 1: on a sugar high, ready to uh tackle today's podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I'm onna I'm on a endorphin high. I

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Speaker 1: just did my workout for the day, so I'm a

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Speaker 1: little sweaty, but ready to talk about big hunting trips.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Wait a second, you did a workout. How

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Speaker 1: do we how do we even know if you did

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Speaker 1: a workout you didn't post any selfie? I know, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I need to I need to get my my selfie

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Speaker 1: game on point here, right, you need to start. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look how many push ups I did today? You know,

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Speaker 1: when we were just talking about this before we started recording.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not the type. Nothing against people who want

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Speaker 1: to post their workout pictures or selfies or whatever, but

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Speaker 1: that's just not my thing. And probably that's because like

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Speaker 1: three push ups isn't very impressive, So I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna get me too much. Yeah, that's uh, that's comedy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the old you know, if a tree falls in the

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Speaker 1: wood or woods doesn't make a sound or whatever, that

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Speaker 1: is right. So if no, if no selfie is posted,

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Speaker 1: did a workout actually happen, We'll never know. You never know.

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Speaker 1: We'll never know, never know. So so yeah I did.

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Speaker 1: I did a little prep because I'm taking off here

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Speaker 1: in a few weeks, dude, a few weeks and I'm

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Speaker 1: heading out west, and you're gonna be doing a shed hunt,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of shed hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, and hunting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so well we'll talk more about that here in a second,

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Speaker 1: because I'm pretty pumped about that. But but you, yes,

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Speaker 1: want to talk about it. You and your wife cleaned

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Speaker 1: up this past weekend. Yeah, we Uh, we had a

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Speaker 1: very good fun time. And um, you need you need

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Speaker 1: we went out uh Saturday, found nine sheds between the

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Speaker 1: it was just awesome because she found, uh, she found three,

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Speaker 1: which were matching sets to the ones that I also found.

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Speaker 1: So so, but she did find the first big antler

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Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna be going this year anymore.

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Speaker 1: that's always a bummer, but that leaves suspense for the summer. Right,

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Speaker 1: something crazy and now he was got killed. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: big he was when he got killed seventy two. Yikes. Yep, yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: So there's that now. I did talk with some guys

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Speaker 1: as far as deer concerned, they took their trail cameras

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Speaker 1: didn't want any more stolen. So it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: come June or May or June, I'll be dropping some

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Speaker 1: cycle begins all again. That's right, you found a shed though, Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about it. That's not it's not holy Field, um,

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Speaker 1: good idea that Holy Field is back in the area.

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Speaker 1: He had still been holding his antlers, but I thought

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Speaker 1: have that. You can't have that, That's true. I can't

426
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: have that. So that's that's my really only trip planned

427
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: other than you know, the November rut trip I usually take,

428
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: uh and that's only an hour away. So so what

429
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: what what's your now? I know it's all up in

430
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: the air with baby and work and all that kind

431
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: of stuff, But how do you have your white tail

432
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: stuff kind of planned right now? I mean, are you

433
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: just gonna try to go out on some weekends before

434
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: the November or have you ever already thought through that

435
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna tried to a long weekend or

436
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: a specific section of October anything that have you thought

437
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: through things that far yet? You know, knowing that the

438
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: baby will be there already? Um, I might just say

439
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: audios to October. This year, just so I can save

440
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Brownie points and time and dedicate it towards the absolute

441
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: best time of the year, and that's going to probably

442
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: be November six through. So I won't even hunt the

443
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: first three days unless I you know, I might take

444
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 1: a trip down um with the kids, just to go

445
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: check trail cameras and you know, see what's moving and

446
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: what's up and you know, up and around, and then

447
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I probably won't do anything until I take my vacation.

448
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, I may get a hunt in closer to

449
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: home on some different property, but as far as my

450
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: big vacation and who knows even what's that, what that's

451
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: going to be like, and you're thinking of trying to

452
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: stay on it the whole time that ten days or whatever. Um,

453
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: there may be a trip or two back home. But

454
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it is up in the

455
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: air right now as far as when it, trust me

456
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: when as soon as I heard that the baby was

457
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 1: due October or September, I pulled my phone out and

458
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I started looking at dates of you know, when to

459
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: play it safe when you go in for the kill.

460
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I don't know, it's gonna be a

461
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of play it by year this year? Yeah, so

462
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: how do you how do you and your wife kind

463
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: of work through or maybe I don't know how this

464
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: works for you, but how do you go about planning

465
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff? Like? Is that is that you

466
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: guys sit down and say, Okay, I want to do

467
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: an oltcom this year, I want to do my white

468
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: tail rut hunt and then you guys kind of toss

469
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: around or do you how does that work for you? Well,

470
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: it's it's it's difficult because for me because she's not

471
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: a hunter, so she doesn't understand specific times of year

472
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: quite yet. I can do my best. I do my

473
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: best to try to educate her on that. But you know,

474
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: when I say, hey, I want to go to Colorado

475
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: for a week? What a whole week? Why can't you

476
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: just go for a four day weekend? Like okay, it

477
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: takes a day to get out there, a day to

478
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: drive back, which leaves me with two days. Did she

479
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: really say that? Why can't I hunt on a weekend weekend?

480
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you do a long weekend in Colorado? Well not,

481
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: she didn't really say that, but that's kind of you know,

482
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: But then again, I mean I'm in a tight spot

483
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: where you know, I have a family, so you know,

484
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: it's difficult for for me to try to explain that, Um, hey,

485
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to go and go to Colorado for a

486
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: week and I'm gonna be spending this much money. And

487
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: she's like, what do you mean You're gonna be spending

488
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: that much money? That's like, what about the family? Is that? Why?

489
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Why doesn't that money go to the family? And that's

490
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: kind of a hard conversation to have, um sometimes, So

491
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things that I think it's

492
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: just I let her know and she understands and we

493
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: try to avoid fights. So this is like year four

494
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: of having kids, right right, right, So is there anything

495
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: you've learned about that process, like since you know, since

496
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: Ava was born and now you've been doing a few

497
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: hunting seasons now, is there anything that you know to

498
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: do differently now than you did back then? Um as

499
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: far as proposing hunts or planning hunts or anything like that, Like,

500
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: how has that changed to make it less painful? You

501
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: just have to be able to sacrifice in other areas,

502
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: right or you know, make up for it by maybe

503
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: doing another trip or going on another family adventure to

504
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: someplace else you know, maybe going to a theme park

505
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: or going to some museums or you know. I am

506
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: I was planning on taking my wife to Napa Valley

507
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: this year for a small trip, but that's not gonna

508
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: happen now that she's pregnant, so I'm saving that for

509
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: another another year. Um. But you know, balancing it out

510
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: so it's not so self centered when I when I

511
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: do take these trips or go on a you know,

512
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: um a five or a two week vacation down south,

513
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: and she's left with the kids and there's all this

514
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: other stuff that happened. So um, because my kids are maniacs,

515
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: and being alone with them for ten days without any

516
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, as a single mother, so to speak, is difficult. Yeah. Yeah,

517
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: as everyone knows, my situation is different than yours. I

518
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: don't have kids, but um, but I found the same thing,

519
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: Like especially even when I used to work my old

520
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: day job and I had a certain number of vacation

521
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: days a week a year. Like the first year, um,

522
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: where I started traveling to hunt, I was just like,

523
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna use all two and a half

524
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: weeks or whatever it was to go on these deer

525
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: hunting trips. And then like Kylie was like, okay, well,

526
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: uh what about us, Like, how are we gonna do

527
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: a tripper? And I learned very quickly that it wasn't

528
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be okay to have a percent of my free

529
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: time vacation time going to hunt. I had to balance

530
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: it out, and so, you know, so I had to

531
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: kind of start splitting. It's like, okay, so we're gonna

532
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: do a week here together for something you want to do,

533
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: and then I will take my week to do my thing. UM.

534
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: And then a little thing I started doing sometimes two

535
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: is even during hunting season, trying to take a week

536
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: off of hunting or a weekend or something like that

537
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: and do something special with her UM like that seemed

538
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: to help to UM. But yeah, I mean I think,

539
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, whether you be, I get way more. I

540
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: get way more vacation time than my wife does. So

541
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I think I get like twenty five days total throughout

542
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: the year, which is five, you know, five weeks of vacation, um,

543
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: and you know, a week and a half of that

544
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: usually goes to the family. And then I got a

545
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: week for a Western trip and then two weeks for

546
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: White Tails, and then everything else kind of goes to

547
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: the goes to the family. So that's a pretty good

548
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: vacation time there. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, and that's what

549
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: that's the corporate world, man. I mean, you live in

550
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: a cuban, and I think the only reason they have

551
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to do that is so people don't commit suicide in

552
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: their cubicles because it's definitely, uh it's you know obviously,

553
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: like you know, that drives you crazy. So they they're like, Okay,

554
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: well we can't afford to pay a ton, but we

555
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: will give you vacation time. And uh yeah, So that's

556
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: where I'm lucky. Plus, I hit my five years a

557
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I got a boost in

558
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: my vacation time. So that's uh so I got more. Yeah,

559
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day. I I think I

560
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: started with two weeks a year, and then I got

561
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: pumped to three weeks a year, and I was always like,

562
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I forget it, raised, I just want more vacation. Give

563
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: me another week, that's right, I just want to I

564
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: just want to have time to do stuff, you know, right.

565
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: So if you I mean, if you were to take

566
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: out all of my if my wife used all of

567
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: her vacation and you know, uh, did all that did

568
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: all those things, then I still come out on top

569
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: as far as vacation days are concerned. And you know,

570
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I'm sure a lot of the

571
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: listeners are going through the same exact thing that that

572
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: I have to go through, you know, where the wife

573
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: saying something along the lines of, well, you know, how

574
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: would it feel. How do you feel if I took

575
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: a trip with you know, by myself? For um, I

576
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: took a trip. I'm like, well, if you have the money,

577
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: do it, And she's like, even watch watching the kids.

578
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, watch the kids. But again she has

579
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: way less, you know, she has way less a vacation

580
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: time than I do, which means that I don't know,

581
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: maybe she'll do it, maybe she won't. And passed how

582
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like, go go on a

583
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: trip on your your friends, go do something. Um, but

584
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: like you said, it's different. And I think also, you know,

585
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: in our situation, like we have such strong passions for

586
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: our hobby or our thing, and sometimes our significant others

587
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: don't have a similar type of thing in their own life. Um. Right,

588
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: And you know this isn't necessarily just like a wife thing.

589
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: This could be there could be female hunters out there,

590
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: but their husbands or boyfriends or something maybe they don't hunt.

591
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: And so it's you know, this just kind of goes

592
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: like that significant other, whatever it is, UM, you have

593
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: to life partner or whatever it might be. You got

594
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out ways to balance UM. And

595
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's a bunch of other things I want

596
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: to talk about before we there were other things I

597
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about before we get to this, but

598
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: now that we're talking about it, But now that we're

599
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: talking about it, UM, A couple of the things that

600
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: have helped me. We're you know, the things we just

601
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: talked about, and then like having these discussions way ahead

602
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: of time, So planning trips out, you know, at this

603
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: time of year and not like in August and all

604
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden say hey, I really want to go

605
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: on a trip next month, um, and then springing that

606
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: on them that's an issue. UM. Another idea that kind

607
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: of has worked for me is I always try to

608
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: plan like a little care package or something for my

609
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: wife when I'm gone. So like before I take off,

610
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: like the day or two or week before, I'll have

611
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: like a bunch of different things for her while I'm gone.

612
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: So called bottles of wine and a movie and some

613
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: chocolates and like a couple of things to life easier

614
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: for while she's gone. My what kydlie? Actually a good idea, um,

615
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: for people who have kids, a good idea would be

616
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: to surprise your wife with like a night of daycare

617
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: while you're gone, so she can go off and do

618
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: her own thing one night. Like you'll pay for and

619
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: handle someone to come and watch the kids one night

620
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: when we're gone, And then you know, your wife can

621
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: go watch a movie or go hang out with friends

622
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: or do something, so it's not all kids the whole time,

623
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: all right. But you know, another important thing that I

624
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: learned the hard way is the importance of communication when

625
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: you're on a trip. Um. I don't think I ever

626
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: told you the story of what happened in Montana? Did I? Um?

627
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. If you did, I don't remember,

628
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: all right, So tell me if I already told the story.

629
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: But I don't think I did. When I was in

630
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Montana this pasture around my deer hunt. Um, you know,

631
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: I killed my buck and brought back into town, brought

632
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: to the processor, and then I hung out in town

633
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: for a day or something, and then I realized, you

634
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: know what, I just want to go back out and

635
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: scout and film and watch these deer back where I

636
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: was hunting originally, because I was having so much fun,

637
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: and I had a few more days until my buddies

638
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: came uh to meet me for our outcount. So I

639
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: went back out to my campsite, went up to public land,

640
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: and just decided to spend a couple of days watching.

641
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: So I told my wife that when we were in service,

642
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I had called her and told her, you know, hey,

643
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to that spot scout blah blah blah.

644
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: And we had good enough. We had good enough service

645
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: there that I was able to I was able to

646
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: check in just about every day, pretty much every day.

647
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: We'd either text or I give her phone call or

648
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: something like that. But day six or seven or something

649
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: like that, Um, the deer stop moving. I wasn't seeing

650
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: him anymore. I mucked up the area or something like that,

651
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I want to

652
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: change things up. I'm gonna go fishing. So I think

653
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I talked to my wife the night before, like texted

654
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: or something, and then the next well, let me try.

655
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: Let make sure to get this story, right. I think

656
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: it was like midway through the day. Let's say it's

657
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Um. I texted her kind of back

658
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: and forth, and then that night I went out sat

659
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot, and then that night I was like,

660
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: you know what, tarm warn't, I'm moving. So in the morning,

661
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I got up early and it was just like go,

662
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: go go. It was packing up camp, popping in the truck, driving,

663
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: and then part way on my drive back to towns like, okay,

664
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I think I want to go fish in this river.

665
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: So then I drove over to this river and started

666
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: fly fishing, having a good time, just on my own.

667
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: And then I got a phone call from a friend

668
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: in the area who said, hey, do you want to

669
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: meet me to go fish this other place. So again

670
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm like busy. I haven't been thinking about other people

671
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: other than myself, just because it's been go to this place, now,

672
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: go to this place. So I meet my friend and

673
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: we go driving up into this canyon and we're gonna

674
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: go fish there for the day. In this canyon, there's

675
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: no cell phone service, and you know, now I'm just

676
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: hanging out my friend, we're talking, we're fishing, and before

677
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: you know what. The whole day has gone by, and

678
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: it's now like eight o'clock. It's about dark. I didn't

679
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: really realized I didn't have cell phone services the whole time.

680
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: We were just doing stuff, so I hadn't looked at

681
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: my phone at all. So it's like eight o'clock Western

682
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: times on Mountain time zone. We get to the truck,

683
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: we drive out of this canyon, and now it's like

684
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: eight thirty and I'm thinking, oh, you know, I should

685
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: probably checking with Kylie. So I'm like, hey, man, I'm

686
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna give my I'm gonna give my wife a call.

687
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: So I call her and she picks up the phone

688
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: and she's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, hey,

689
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: I just got un fishing. How you doing? And she's like,

690
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: well how. I can't remember exactly what she just said.

691
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: She just said, I'm so mad at you, and she

692
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: slams the phone down, and I'm like, holy crap, what

693
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: is going on? And then when she canceled the phone,

694
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, my phone starts blowing up

695
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: with voicemails and text messages and all this stuff that

696
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: had been happening while I had been out of service.

697
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: So what had happened. Is I checked within her around

698
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: noon or something the day before, and then, as I mentioned,

699
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: I got really busy. The next day was out of service. Well,

700
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: she started texting me like, hey, what's going on? It

701
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: was about you know, it was the next day. We

702
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: hadn't talked, what's going on? Nothing checks me again. A

703
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: few hours later, nothing, calls me, a few hours later. Nothing.

704
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Now it's like dinner time on the Eastern time zone

705
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: and she realized she hasn't heard from me in over

706
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. She starts getting a little like worried

707
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: because I'm out there in the middle of nowhere by myself,

708
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: sitting in a tree doing all this kind of stuff.

709
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: She starts talking to her mom, and her mom, you know,

710
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: worries about that kind of stuff. She starts being worried,

711
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: which makes Kylie Moore worried. She checks in with my

712
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: buddies who are going to meet me out there. They

713
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: haven't heard from me in a while. This makes her

714
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: more worried. Long story short, all this kind of builds

715
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: up and she ends up freaking out worried that she

716
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: hasn't heard from me in so long, and calls like

717
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: the local authorities and asked someone to come check the

718
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: camp site where I'm supposed to be. They come check,

719
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: My truck's not there. I'm nowhere to be found. H M.

720
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: And she's breaking out, crying, calling my friends, calling her mom.

721
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden I call her, you know,

722
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: thirty hours later or something, Hey, what's up. And that

723
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: didn't go over real while. So I think my big

724
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: lesson learned from that whole thing was to set expectations

725
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: I did not have. We had not set a clear

726
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: expectation of like, if you don't hear from me in

727
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, it's okay to be worried, or or

728
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: on the other hand, it's likely I'm not gonna have

729
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: service a lot, so don't worry if you don't hear

730
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: from me for two days or something like that. We

731
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: didn't have that conversation before, and so because I had

732
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: been checking with her every day and then all of

733
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: a sudden I didn't, that really freaked her out and

734
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: it led to a whole bunch of all sorts of

735
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: mess and an angry wife. So figure out your communication plans,

736
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: set expectations, and stay in good communication if she's expecting that.

737
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: That was my big hot from all that. Um, there

738
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: was a there's a very good chance when I guess

739
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: this was in regards to our Idaho hunt that we

740
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: went on, there's a very good chance that I'm not

741
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: going to have service, So I may not I may

742
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: not be able to communicate with you for up to

743
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: four or five days. Um. Luckily there was and that

744
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: made her happy. But you know, when we especially this

745
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: trip that I'm going on in Colorado of this upcoming year,

746
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance I'm not going to have

747
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: any type of communications. So, um, those expectations, Just with

748
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: anything in life, expectations have to be set up front,

749
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: or you know, you don't want to be like, oh, yeah,

750
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in Denver. Uh, this is the last you're

751
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna hear from me for seven days? Yeah, exactly. So, yeah,

752
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I learned that one the hard way. It's that one

753
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: was a painful one. Got it got that was my fault,

754
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I guess. So I think I think we're using for

755
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: me with kids. As soon as I would have shot

756
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: my dear, drop it off the process or wait until

757
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was that needed to get done got done,

758
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: and then I'm back in my truck and I'm heading

759
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: to I'm heading back to Iowa. Now that's my circumstances, right,

760
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: If I would have tagged out just like in uh

761
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: uh when I was in Nebraska a couple of years ago. Um,

762
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: the last day was really rainy and windy and wet, um,

763
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: And instead of staying one more night and fighting the elements,

764
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: I decided to get back into you know, go home

765
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: a day early, just to you know, make the wife happy,

766
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, basically balance, you know, choosing, you know, choosing

767
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: the the unlikelihood that I was going to tag out

768
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: versus going home and you know, making my wife somewhat

769
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: happy that I, you know, I was out there or

770
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: came home early, made the quote unquote right decision, or

771
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: gave up early. How every one look at it? Dane, No,

772
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, I I've done that before. To Speaking of communication, UM,

773
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: we left one of our I can't remember FROs. They

774
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: all count with you or they all count before, but

775
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: we left you like half day earlier, day earli or

776
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: something like that, and I thought it'd be cool to

777
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: surprise my wife. Yeah, don't do that if you have

778
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: a wife, If you have a wife who is armed

779
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: and ready to defend herself because I did not tell

780
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: her I was gonna get home. And I pulled into

781
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: the house at like midnight or something, and the dogs

782
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: started barking and I'm fiddling with the door, and she

783
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: grabbed the gun and came walking out. I walked in

784
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, it's just me. But I

785
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: gave her a little bit of a scare and she

786
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: told me, don't ever do that again. Got killed. So yeah,

787
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: But so you're doing this ill khunt and you're white

788
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: to hunts um for me. This year, I've got kind

789
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: of a crazy year plan because you know, we're we're

790
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna be going out west, like I alluded to a

791
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: second ago, We're gonna be doing two Western trips this year. Um.

792
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: You know, we just were very fortunate and blessed to

793
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: have really flexible work schedules and we don't have kids yet,

794
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: so we're kind of taking advantage of that. And this spring,

795
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: in a few weeks, we're gonna be heading out west

796
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: for a little over a month, probably five weeks um,

797
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: and part of the time out there on gonna gonna

798
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: fit in a couple of hunts. Um. I think I'm

799
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna do a turkey hunt out there and I'm marrying. Yeah,

800
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I guess that's what that what would be out there,

801
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: and then um I'm gonna do a spot in stock

802
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: black bear hunt. Um So I'm really excited both about

803
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: both of those some different stuff out there out west,

804
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna try to do a little bit

805
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: scouting for a Montana deer hunt again. I'm gonna do

806
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: that again in September, and then um so yeah, so

807
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like April and early May. Then I'm

808
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna come back for part of May and June, and

809
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: then sometime in July we're in head back out and

810
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: spend July in August out there, and then like I said,

811
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: I gonna do the September white tail hunt in Montana,

812
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: and then, tentatively, assuming nothing goes wrong with the plans

813
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: that I'm kind of working out right now, I'm gonna

814
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 1: go to Alaska for a d i y caribou hunt

815
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: that bananas, which is bananas. Yeah. So so those would

816
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: be my western trips, and then when I get back

817
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: from that, I'm gonna still try to do my Ohio

818
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: deer hunts, my Michigan home deer hunts, and then I

819
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: gotta figure out if I'm gonna build do Iowa like

820
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: I do every other year, this is my year to

821
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: draw in Iowa. Tag Um. I just don't know if

822
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Bill pull it off given how much I'm

823
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna be gone in September, and then you know, I

824
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: don't know if I can be gone for two weeks

825
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: in November two So that again for me, is I

826
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: gotta figure out that balance with her, But definitely Michigan, Ohio,

827
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: maybe Iowa and um another crazy idea I had and

828
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: this probably shouldn't do this, but I started thing. Okay,

829
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna do like a rut hunt in Iowa,

830
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: maybe I can do a late season trip somewhere, you know,

831
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: because I would have been home for a couple of months.

832
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Maybe in December she'll be ready to get rid of

833
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: me and I can go maybe do an Iowa Muzzloer

834
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: hunt or just bow hunt in late season. Or I've

835
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: also thought about somewhere like South Dakota, which is just

836
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: some super cool spots out there in that state to

837
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: do some months and all public land stuff. I want

838
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: to do some more public land like we talked about. UM.

839
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: So i'veen looking at some stuff like that. But point

840
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: for Iowa and and collect skip out for two more years,

841
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: get those points, and then you can start hunting in

842
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: the best zone in Iowa. Yeah. I don't know, man,

843
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's that much different than

844
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: where a hunt right now. I know that that's you know,

845
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: where the famous people like Dan Johnson hunt, But I

846
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: just don't I don't know if more there's just the

847
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: entire south southern part of this eight is there's just

848
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: more to choose, choose from. There's more timber, there's more egg.

849
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you get up to where we went shed

850
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: hunting into your neck of the woods, Yeah, there there's

851
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: pockets and spots, but you know where we went shed hunting.

852
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: It's good. It's a really good deer hunting. However, everything

853
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: around that is egg, which means you're not going to

854
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: find the you know more. I guess there's just more

855
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: down in the southern units. Yeah, I don't know. I

856
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta think about it, because just think about it.

857
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. But it's not like I mean,

858
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: if I go in to shoot shoot a big buck

859
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: on the property next to your since I go in

860
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: there and lease it out, from under your or something

861
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: like that. You're not gonna be happy with me so

862
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: I slash your tires. Yeah, you probably would, But I

863
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I just like the idea of being to

864
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: hunt there more often, and it's hard to wait four

865
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: years um and what? Okay? So I think where I

866
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: hunt in Iowa, there's a great chance on any given

867
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: year that I could kill a four year old um,

868
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, fifty class um or bigger. And every time

869
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: I've hunted there, I've seen at least one sixties um

870
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: and numerous four or five plus year old bucks. So okay,

871
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: if that's what my like assumption would be for this

872
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: general region I hunt. Now, do I really think I

873
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: could do that much better down by you? I mean,

874
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that there's a substantially

875
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: better chance for me to see or kill one seven?

876
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: I mean, sure there's probably some more, but I don't.

877
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's quantifiably that much different, right,

878
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what you're what your goal is.

879
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking for big racks and big anglers,

880
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: then yes, but if you're looking to kill a mature

881
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: buck four year old or older, than you know, anywhere

882
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: in the state of Iowa or any other states for

883
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: that matter, is going to give you that opportunity, you know,

884
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: what I think what I think the thing is is

885
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: that when I look at the difference between where hunting

886
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: now in Michigan, so like that difference between Michigan hunting

887
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: and where I go to Iowa is huge, So I'm

888
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: already like, whoa, this is so awesome. And then the

889
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: incremental difference though between where I hunt in Iowa and

890
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: where you hunt in Iowa, that's like a small difference

891
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: that it's like, either way, it's gonna be way better

892
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: than what used to now. So I'm just pretty happy

893
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: with either one. I guess makes sense. But but yeah,

894
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: we'll see. So that that all is like where we're

895
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: where I'm thinking about going this year, where you're thinking

896
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: about going this year, your Iowa hunts and your family stuff,

897
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: your elk hunt. What I do want to talk about

898
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: that now we've grambled for forty five minutes, Um, I

899
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: want to talk about kind of how we think through

900
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like what are some of the important things.

901
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: So if people out there wanted to plan some trips

902
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: to their own what are the things they need to

903
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: think about. And you know, both of us have now

904
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: either planned and been on some of these different out

905
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: of state trips. I've done some more, um. But you

906
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: you know, you went through a planning process for meal

907
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: deer hunt that we never actually went on, but you

908
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: did a bunch of planning for and then we did

909
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: go on that elk hunt together, and now you're planning

910
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: for a new elk hunt. And I've planned four or

911
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: five elk hunts now and numerous out of state deer hunts,

912
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: and now I'm planning and out of state bear hunt,

913
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: out of state elk or caribou hunt. UM. So I

914
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: want to talk about how we've done that and some

915
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: of the things we've learned, um. And I think there's

916
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: a few, like just right off the bat easy things

917
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: you got to kind of figure out for yourself. You know,

918
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out where you want to go, like

919
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: general region and what species you want to hunt. And

920
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that kind of comes down

921
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: to like just your personal preference. Like I don't know

922
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: about you, but for me, it's like, Okay, I love

923
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountains, I want to hunt something there. And

924
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: then I look at like Okay, what's the bright species there? Um?

925
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: But for me, it was like, I want to hunt

926
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: in a certain region. I want to be in the

927
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: mountains and I want to be in the west. Um.

928
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: So I think some people maybe go about that way,

929
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: and then some other people say, I've always been fascinated

930
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: with mule deer or I've always been fascinated by a moose.

931
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: I really want to hunt a moose. What's the best

932
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: place to kill moose? Um. I think that's like two

933
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: different ways to look at it, But it probably comes

934
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: down to like your goals, right, like do you want

935
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: a certain experience or do you want to kill a

936
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: big animal of X species? Rum. So maybe that's the

937
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: first thing that I think about, is what's your goal

938
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: going to be? And then you choose which of those

939
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: two different things you know right? Right? For me, being

940
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: new to hunting the West, you know, I've only gone

941
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: on one elk hunt and one mule deer slash antelope hunt.

942
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: I think the most I did that based off of

943
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: species first and foremost. Um, I wanted to kill an elk,

944
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: so you know, that's what we That's what we did. However,

945
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the the hunt that I'm

946
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: planning in the background of some of these other hunts

947
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: that I'll be going on because my Colorado hunt. I'll

948
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: be completely honest with you, I got a friend out

949
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: there who is letting me tag along on some spots

950
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: that he has been had successful, you know, in the past.

951
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: So I'm not really doing too much except planning the

952
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: gear portion of it. Um. I am looking on maps

953
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: and giving advice when and if needed. But for this

954
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: particular hunt, I'm you know, it's gonna be d I y,

955
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all public ground, um, but that I

956
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: have some inside information, and that's kind of how I'm

957
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm going. I got invited and I'm like, sure, why not?

958
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: That is a great way to get your start out there.

959
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my first Western hunt was with a

960
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: couple of buddies who had been out there before. And

961
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: you know that's a because it was a little bit

962
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: intimidating if you've never done something like that to try to.

963
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: For me, I think the hardest part, at least before

964
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: you've done it before, is like just where do I go?

965
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, because there's so many places you could go,

966
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: and I always have the worry of if I just

967
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: pick a place on a map, and then I get there,

968
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be like seventy cars. It's not gonna be

969
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: dealing with those other people. My biggest fear when it

970
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: comes to any kind of hunt, whether it be a

971
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: white tail hunt or a elk or big game so

972
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: other sort, it's like, I just don't want to be

973
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: with a bunch of other people and dealing with that. UM. So,

974
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: if you've got some friends you have a little bit

975
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: of information, that's a great way to go about it.

976
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: Or even you know, if you don't have friends, you

977
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: can already hunt with. I think one of the things

978
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: that helped both of us the most has been like

979
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: just trying to get somebody on the ground. They can

980
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: offer you some type of insight. I mean, I remember

981
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: when we were planning our mule deer hunt. You were

982
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: calling biologists out there and talking to some biologist and

983
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: they had some great intel. UM. I think that's probably

984
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people don't take advantage of. UM.

985
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Or connecting with someone on a forum that you happen

986
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: to bounce around or that you see on Twitter a lot,

987
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: and that you know that they live in such and

988
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: such state, and if you just say, hey, I'm just

989
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: trying to learn some things about this area. Do you

990
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: happen to know anybody who might be willing to talk

991
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: to me? And who knows? If you start mining your

992
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: personal network like that, you might eventually end up with

993
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: a friend who is willing to share that they had

994
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: been to this region and know that this drainage is great.

995
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: This strange has a lot of other hunters. I mean,

996
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 1: I think that putting in your footwork in that way

997
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: can pay a big game. Right. So one thing I

998
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: learned about the West is it's just like the Midwest

999
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: when it comes to um hunting property. I'm not going

1000
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: to share my hunting property information or the area, the

1001
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: specific area where I hunt uh with anybody who asks, right.

1002
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: So I've learned that if you're going to communicate, for example, UM,

1003
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: I I used to go on some forums and I said, hey, UM,

1004
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: not looking to kill a giant uh mule there, but

1005
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: I want to kill um a buck? Looking for good numbers?

1006
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: What zone would you recommend? Someone points you in the

1007
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: direction of a zone maybe, or but not specific portions

1008
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: of that zone, because that's given away too much information. UM.

1009
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a bow hunter. And typically you

1010
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: know out west, some of these rifle hunts, you're talking

1011
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: ten years to draw some of these tags because um

1012
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: and and that's that's another thing to consider is is

1013
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: the unit that you want to hunt over the counter?

1014
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: Is it going to take you one year points to

1015
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: draw to your points? Is it a a is it

1016
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: a lottery where you put your name in every year

1017
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: and if you draw, you draw, If you don't, you don't.

1018
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of other things to consider. So

1019
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: definitely you have to put in the keyboard time um

1020
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: behind that hunt as well. Yeah. Uh. To your point

1021
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: about how people might not want to share specific spots, um,

1022
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: very true, and I would never like press someone for that.

1023
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, you might come

1024
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: into or you might run into a person who moved

1025
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: or they just know they're not gonna be hunting that

1026
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: region again, and they don't care. They're like, hey, yeah,

1027
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: I hunted at this in this specific trailhead or this

1028
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: is where I went out of him. I'm not gonna

1029
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: be there next year for the next two years. But

1030
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, so it doesn't hurt to just try to conversations,

1031
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: don't be pushy about it, but you make a great

1032
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: point there, because I got into communication with a guy

1033
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: who moved from Colorado back home either to I think

1034
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: maybe it was Ohio or Michigan or Pennsylvania or somewhere

1035
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: like that for a job. And he shared he shared

1036
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: a ton of information with me about some spots in

1037
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: Colorado to look for um elk because of his past experience.

1038
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: And and I met him through Facebook or yeah, I

1039
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: think it was Facebook. So he shared some He's just like,

1040
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: check out this lake in the northwest part of it.

1041
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: Check out this, uh, this river and this you know,

1042
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: trail head here and uh, he didn't really say walk

1043
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: a hundred yards up, take a left, follow the tree line,

1044
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: go up, you know, follow it up another thousand feet.

1045
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: It was just like, check out this area, check out

1046
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: this area, check out this area, and you're gonna fight people,

1047
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: but it's there for you. Yeah. No, I mean that's

1048
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: and the same thing even can go for white tail stuff.

1049
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: You know, there's gonna be guys that moved or people

1050
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: that hunt in a peace of public land, but aren't

1051
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: gonna be going back to that same state. Um. You know,

1052
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: if you're trying to plan on a state white tail hunt,

1053
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: it does not hurt to try to make some connections,

1054
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: to try to chat with some people and at least

1055
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: get some kind of direction. Because even though there's a

1056
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: lot of resources available online right now, official resources articles

1057
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: and the state DNR website and stuff like that. UM,

1058
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: you can only go so far with that stuff. You

1059
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: really do need to try to make some type of connection. UM.

1060
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: I will say one resource that I have found super helpful. UM,

1061
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of plugging a competitor, I guess in

1062
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: some way, um a little bit. But their Western focused.

1063
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: So the website called go hunt dot com. UM. I

1064
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: think I know you've been on there too. I got

1065
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: a subscription to them. Yeah did Ooh if you're if

1066
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: you're going for a Western hunt, that is a very

1067
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: handy tool, their insider tool. UM. It breaks down each state.

1068
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: You can go to the state and get some general

1069
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: information about like like you said, like how do you apply,

1070
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: what's the lottery? What are the odds? Like what? Um

1071
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: when you need to apply where? What species are there?

1072
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff. It breaks down all that

1073
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: stuff by state every Yeah, and then when you break

1074
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: it down by species, like you say, Okay, I want

1075
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: to hunt Elkin Montana or elk in Wyoming or whatever.

1076
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: You pick that species, you pick the area, and then

1077
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: you can drill down by unit and they give you

1078
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: information even down to the unit level, like Okay, this

1079
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: unit is six public land, UM, so lots of public

1080
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: access and with this many points, this is your likelihood

1081
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: of drawing. And this is what like the weather has

1082
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: been likely like over the last ten years, and all

1083
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff like it's it's very very helpful, UM.

1084
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: And it you know, it costs them. There's a yearly

1085
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: subscription fee, but UM, I have found it's probably worth

1086
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: it if you're going to plan a few things like this. UM.

1087
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: And then also like they have the information about like

1088
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough for these Western hunts trying to

1089
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: figure out when you need to apply and how many

1090
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: times you gotta apply and how do I get points

1091
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: versus how do I get into the lottery versus all

1092
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So breaking all that stuff down

1093
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: so you know the tag situation. See, you know, you

1094
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: know the regulations that are. You know, you really should

1095
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: just go to the State dn r's website and read

1096
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: through the whole regulation booklet too, because that stuff is

1097
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: is a nightmare. If you if you don't UM, but

1098
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: there are some online resources like that that are that

1099
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: are worth checking out to get just your basics figured out. UM.

1100
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: And I actually was just watching a video from Randy

1101
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: newburg Um, our friend Randy, and he was talking about

1102
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: this exact topic how he goes and he utilizes some

1103
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then he goes and utilize some

1104
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: of these different online services where you can get um,

1105
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, plat maps and see property ownership and see

1106
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: public land versus private land and stuff. And in some

1107
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: of these places where you UM. Some of these places

1108
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: where like if there's a unit that doesn't have a

1109
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of book land access, lots of times that will

1110
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: just turn people away, so they'll see that a unit

1111
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: is like, you know, there's only ten percent public land.

1112
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: So let's say we'll forget that. That's too difficult. But

1113
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: if you go and find those spots that don't have

1114
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of public land, but if you have the

1115
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: resources that show you where those little honey hooles of

1116
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: public are, you can actually get into some relatively low

1117
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: pressure hunting situations because of that. UM. So that was

1118
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of a good trick that you know, maybe we

1119
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: we just ruined for people. But it's, uh, that's something

1120
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: to look for. And then once you have that kind

1121
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: of stuff, you can you can go in there on

1122
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: the ground when you hunt, and or look on whatever

1123
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: mapping tools you use online and figure out what the

1124
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: train looks like. How can you access these spots and

1125
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: get in there? But um, and you mentioned it before

1126
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: you go into the next thing. You mentioned it just

1127
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: a hair is when I was, when I was, you know,

1128
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: doing research on this mule deer hunt, I called up

1129
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: the guy who does the wildlife biologist in that area,

1130
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: and it is their job to share information like that.

1131
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: So un you know, I doubt they're going to tell you, hey,

1132
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: I saw one seventy in this draw, right, But what

1133
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: they will do is they'll provide you with statistics, you know,

1134
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: like hey, um, we had this success rate, you know,

1135
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: we had the fond birth rate was good. We did

1136
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: a study and we showed that there was this popular

1137
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, this percent of population or whatever. Um. And

1138
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't think those guys, if I had to guess,

1139
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that those guys get used like hunters should. Yeah,

1140
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: to your point, I mean, you've got some pretty good

1141
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: intel from those guys when you call the past couple

1142
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: years right, And they gave me. They gave me pretty

1143
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: specific details of where I can find mule deer um.

1144
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: And another thing that I did was this is this

1145
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: was just because I was curious if it would work.

1146
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: I start to calling local businesses and I straight up said, Hey,

1147
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: my name is Dan, I'm from Iowa, and I'm gonna

1148
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: come out there and I'm gonna do a a deer

1149
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: hunt or an elk hunt, and I want some inside.

1150
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, you know, a little bit more information

1151
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: than what I could get online. And I call it

1152
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: gas station and this lady asked, and there must have

1153
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: been a guy she knew standing right there, uh, buying something,

1154
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: a mountain deer or something. It was just like, Hey,

1155
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: this guy's from Io. He wants to come elk hunting.

1156
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: And I talked to this guy on the gas station

1157
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: phone for about fifteen twenty minutes about um. He wasn't

1158
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: big into mule deer hunting, but he wasn'to elk hunting.

1159
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: And he told me, He's like, yeah, you go up

1160
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: this road and all throughout there you're gonna find uh,

1161
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, good hunting. But you want to stay away

1162
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: from this area because it's easy to get too and

1163
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of guys there. I typically

1164
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: go here, and so it was random. But if you

1165
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: if you put in the time and cover all those things,

1166
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: people will you know, you're you're bound to hit something

1167
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: or somebody. That's such a Dan johnsonthing to do. Oh

1168
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: heck yeah, man, why not if you're gonna, if you're

1169
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna spend two dollars on a hunt, you know, whether

1170
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: that's the travel out there you want to. You know,

1171
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: everybody wants to go out and kill let's say, a

1172
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: big bowl or a big mule there. So why not

1173
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: try to get as much information on those places as possible,

1174
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: whether it's big or uh bowl or uh you know

1175
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: mule there. It doesn't have to be a big one.

1176
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm a first timer, I'll shoot just about anything,

1177
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: even a dog going out there. I just want for me,

1178
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: I just want numbers. So um, I just and you know,

1179
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: just seeing an animal that I'm not used to on

1180
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: the hoof is a win win for me. So you know,

1181
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: use use every everything as a resource. I called a

1182
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: hotel and the guys like, you know what, I'm I'm

1183
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: not a hunter, but my brother in law is, let

1184
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: me take down your information. And this guy called me

1185
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: and we talked for a while, and he was a

1186
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: rifle hunter and he would basically just go up into

1187
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: certain areas shoot shoot the first cow for me. But

1188
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: he's like, I can show you where there's numbers at.

1189
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't concentrate on hunting bowls. I just shoot the

1190
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: first elk that walks out every year. So I think

1191
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: that I think we underestimate how helpful sometimes people are

1192
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: willing to be. It all goes back to knocking on doors,

1193
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, for for white tails. Don't be a pussy,

1194
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: just go do it. Everybody everybody is, you know, complains

1195
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: about oh, I don't know if I'm that kind of guy.

1196
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm that kind of guy. All right, well,

1197
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: good more for me. Yeah. Yeah, I think those are

1198
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: willing to put themselves out there, like you said, whether

1199
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: it be trying to find a white tail spot or

1200
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: trying to find an elk spot or a bear spot

1201
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that, if you go out there and

1202
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: talk to people, try I get out there. You know,

1203
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: too many people I think make excuses not to do

1204
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know, they always say, oh, I'd love

1205
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: to go out of state on a deer hunt or

1206
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: out of stay on a moose on or whatever. Um,

1207
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, not this year, next year, or

1208
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: some other year because they don't know how to find

1209
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: a spot to hunt, or they're worried it's gonna cost

1210
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: too much money, or it's gonna you know, they don't

1211
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: know how to hunt moose or something. But I think

1212
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: one of the big things I've learned is that all

1213
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: of this stuff can be done more forwardably than most

1214
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: people assume. It can be done more easily than most

1215
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: people assume, and it's just it's not as scary as

1216
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: most people assume, you know. I think anyway, if if

1217
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: you want to go hunt a moose or a white

1218
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: tail in a big buck state, or a bear or

1219
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: an elk, the resources out there are there, Like there's

1220
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: enough stuff now where you can either talk to people

1221
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: or go online and learn stuff. You can learn enough

1222
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: about the animal to be dangerous out there. There's enough

1223
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: public land or if you're willing to knock on doors,

1224
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: there are places you can find a hunt in private

1225
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: on private property, and you can you can do it

1226
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: cheap if you plan it out, if you camp if

1227
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: you bring your own food, if you don't buy extravagant

1228
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: things like you can do this stuff for way less

1229
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: money than a normal family vacation. Or if you just

1230
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: decide not to buy a new big screen TV this

1231
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: year and stop buying Starbucks for a few months, you

1232
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: can go do these dream trips. It's just a matter

1233
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: of making that choice and prioritizing it, you know, sacrifice

1234
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: a little bit to make this thing happen. So, so

1235
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: what are we talking. We talked about you got to

1236
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: such your goals, You got to figure out the regulations

1237
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: and tag situations. There's lots of online resources. Uh, finding

1238
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: a place to hunt, of course, we talked about some

1239
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: ways to do that. You gotta do some digital scouting.

1240
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: So if you don't know specifically where you're gonna hunt yet,

1241
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: you need to look at some maps, look at terrain. Um,

1242
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: it's important to understand whatever kind of species is you're hunting.

1243
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: You gotta understand, like just like deer hunting. You know,

1244
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: we we know that you can look at a map

1245
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, this is a likely spot that deer

1246
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: might be feeding, this is a likely spot the deer

1247
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: might be betted, and this is a likely way they're

1248
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: traveling between those two things. UM, if you learn enough

1249
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: about the animal like we have with white tails, you

1250
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: can see that on a map. The same thing can

1251
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: go for elk or mule deer or whatever else. You

1252
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: just need to go and learn that stuff. So if

1253
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: you're hunting elk, read a bunch of stuff about how

1254
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: elk behave, what types of terrain do they feed in,

1255
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: what types of terrain do they bet in? And then

1256
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: you know there's there's there's great stuff online now, like

1257
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get an elk hunting Randy Newberg

1258
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: has some great videos about this stuff. UM Corey Jacobson's

1259
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: Elk University I think it's called Elk one oh one

1260
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: or something like that. UM has a bunch of videos

1261
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: and resources about understanding this type of stuff. How do

1262
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: you digitally scout for elk? I'm sure there's something out

1263
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: there for mule deer and these different things, UM where

1264
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: you can learn how to look at maps and learn

1265
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: this stuff for for these different species. So go out

1266
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: there and do that stuff, take your time, figure that

1267
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: out digitally scout, and then have a game plan, you know,

1268
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: like with you and me Dan, whether it be for

1269
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: our mule there hunting we're planning, and then the elk

1270
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: hunt that we actually went on. Going into both of those,

1271
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: we said, okay, we know a general region we want

1272
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: to go hunt. Um, when we get there, you know,

1273
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: here's we've got a plan A and a plan B.

1274
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: And if there's too many people here, we'll try to

1275
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: shift over there. But you have a game plan and

1276
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: then you you've got to go into it flexible. Um.

1277
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: Same thing for a white tail trip. When I showed up,

1278
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, in Iowa on a piece of property that

1279
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: knocked on doors and got permission a few years ago.

1280
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: I went in there beforehand. I said, Okay, I think

1281
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: I want to hunt in these two spots during the

1282
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: other season and during the rut. These are my couple

1283
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: of core places. And then you get there on the

1284
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: ground and you you then get temperature on it. See, okay,

1285
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: is it what I thought it was going to be

1286
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: from the digital scouting? And then you start hunting. Um,

1287
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: and then he kind of learn as you go, and

1288
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: that's an adventure on its own. But UM, I don't

1289
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: think we need necessarily talk about how to do the

1290
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: actual hunting. That's something you gotta figure out. Learn yourself.

1291
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 1: But I think having at least a basic game plan

1292
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: to get started is a is a good, um, A

1293
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: good way to get that off and rolling. So gear gear, Yeah, UM,

1294
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: I did want to talk about gear for these types

1295
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: of trips because again, when it comes to costs for

1296
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: any kind of deal by hunting trip, trying to keep

1297
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: it as affordable as possible is great, and I think

1298
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: the best way to do that is either get a

1299
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: bunch of guys crammed into a really cheap hotel room

1300
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: or camp. Um. So we haven't really talked about camping

1301
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: gear all. I don't think have we talked about some

1302
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: of the stuff that I use on those trips or

1303
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: what we used on our ol clunting trip or anything

1304
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: like that. Um, I don't. We may have mentioned it,

1305
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: but not into detail. I will say that for me

1306
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: because I didn't have any type of quote unquote Western

1307
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: d I Y back country style hunting equipment. Um, my

1308
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: first year in the initial cost was greater than this

1309
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: upcoming year when now I have all that stuff, and

1310
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: now you know, I you know, I may need to

1311
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: just buy some freeze dried meals and other than that,

1312
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm good to go. Yeah, that's true. If you're gonna

1313
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: start doing something like that, the the upfront costs are

1314
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more. But if you

1315
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: think about, Okay, I want to continue to go on

1316
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: trips like this over the next ten years or something, UM,

1317
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: that cost goes down significantly when you don't need to

1318
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: buy all those things to get you started. UM. And

1319
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: there really are actually a lot of places you can

1320
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: get this kind of camping gear. It's significant discounts now,

1321
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, UM, whether it be hunting gear like camel

1322
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: Fire dot com is a website I've used in the

1323
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: past to get great deals on even like sick of gear,

1324
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: hunting clothing or camping gear or other hunting stuff. Um,

1325
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 1: there's a website. I think it's Hunting Gear deals dot Com. Yeah, yeah,

1326
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: that's another one. You're right. Um. Hunt of the Day

1327
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: is another one I just recently found out about. UM.

1328
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 1: And then also just regular retailers like Cabela's or Arii

1329
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: or Amazon, eBay, steep and cheep yep. That's the good

1330
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 1: one I forgot about. UM. Another one called the Climb

1331
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 1: but spelled c l y MB not c l I. UM.

1332
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: That's another one that discounts back Country dot com. Um,

1333
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: there's a website called DeVore d v o R dot

1334
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: com that if you become a member, it doesn't cost anything.

1335
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: But if you just like kind of like Groupon used

1336
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 1: to be, like if you remember whatever, you had access

1337
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: to all their special deals. That's another one that has

1338
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: some of this kind of stuff. UM. Sierra Trading Post

1339
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: dot com is online retailer that specializes in like selling

1340
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: like overstocked and out of season type gear like that,

1341
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: but lots of camping stuff you can get for big

1342
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: time discounts there. Um, So if you shop around and

1343
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: look at some of these places, you can get the

1344
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: stuff you need. You know, you don't need that year's

1345
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: newest fancist gear to go out and have a good hunt,

1346
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, yep, unless you get ahold of your cat

1347
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: well and then in that case then you buy the very,

1348
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: very most expensive She fleeced you, dude, she absolutely fleeced you.

1349
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: They My wife still talks about that. Theay a lot

1350
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: of money in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, which is obviously the

1351
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: one of the most expensive towns in the whole United

1352
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: States to live in. Uh, going and buying a tent

1353
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: that I probably could have bought for three dollars less

1354
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: online somewhere else. But you know, when you need it,

1355
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: you need it, and it is a nice tent. It

1356
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: is a very nice tent. So at least at least

1357
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: you're set for the future. That's right. Um. But let's

1358
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: let's talk camping gear a little bit, um, because if

1359
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, for people, whether it be a white tail

1360
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: hunter and elkhin or whatever, if you're at a camp, um,

1361
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess I can walk through this stuff that's worked

1362
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: for me, um, because I've done a lot of this,

1363
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: not only just for the hunting, but then also a

1364
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: lot of camping backpacking just you know, my wife and

1365
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: I UM so for the backpacking stuff and we backpacked

1366
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: in for for our elk cons and or anything like that.

1367
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: I think some of the most important things are your

1368
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: your essentials of a sleeping pad mhm, a good sleeping

1369
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: bag that's rated to the temperature that you need. Cheese.

1370
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: My Alexei unit is talking to me. Um. Have you

1371
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: ever seen one of those things, dan Alexa? That word

1372
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: is that where you say Alexa, um, buy dog food

1373
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: and it buys dog food or it send you uh

1374
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: it plays porno. Yes, that's that's this, Okay, I got

1375
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: one of those for Christmas, and she she talks to

1376
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: me every once in a while randomly. Um, what the

1377
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: heck was I talking about? Oh? Sleeping bag, make sure

1378
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: you get one that compresses, like a backpacking sleeping bag

1379
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: that's small, packs down small, um, and that's rated to

1380
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: cold enough temperatures you don't want to take like the

1381
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: sleeping bag that rolls up. It's like two ft by

1382
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: three ft or something. Yeah. Um, I think it's worth

1383
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: investing a little bit of money in a decent sleeping

1384
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: bag that's going to get into your backpack. Okay. Um.

1385
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: And a inflatable sleeping pad. I've used ones from therm

1386
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: Arrest and ri I. Both have been really good. Um.

1387
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: You can get those for not too much money. Um.

1388
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: And then of course tent, make sure you've got a

1389
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: a rainproof tent, a good three season tent that again,

1390
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: all these things if you're going to backpack with it,

1391
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: weight as a consideration, so you try to get as

1392
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: as light as you can get but without blowing your budget.

1393
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: And lots of times the more lightweight stuff, the more

1394
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: ultra light stuff, the more expensive it is. So you've

1395
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: got to find that balance point for um. But you

1396
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: can find some pretty good deals out there for all

1397
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: these things. So what tend you end up getting an

1398
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: MSR tent? Right? Uh? Yes, MSR. I think it's actually

1399
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: a three man I thought it was a two man,

1400
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: but I think about the three main version. Uh, for

1401
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: like seven hundred bucks, had I had to have it

1402
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: and you didn't have to have it. Um. A tent

1403
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: that's worked really well for me and for a lot

1404
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: of people I know is the ri I Half Dome tent.

1405
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: It's a two person tent and it's one of the

1406
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: most popular long running backpacking tents out there. And um,

1407
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: it's it's really pretty good for the price I think

1408
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: it was. I can't remember exactly what it was, less

1409
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: than two hundred bucks, I'm pretty sure. And we've put

1410
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: that thing through the ringer. UM. So that's a really

1411
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: good kind of beginner backpacking tent. Um. You gotta have

1412
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: a water filter if you're gonna be backpacking in there,

1413
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: and I've always used um either a Katahdin k a

1414
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: T a d y N which is like one of

1415
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: those pump filters. UM. And I think you had an

1416
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: MSR as well for your water filter, you know, an

1417
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: MSR pump water filter that can connect directly into your

1418
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: um camel back or your your water bladder that goes

1419
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: into your backpack. You know, those are nice um if

1420
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: you don't want the pump which is kind of like

1421
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: most people have a pump um where you just put

1422
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: the little tube in the water and another tube comes

1423
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: out of the filter and goes into your water bottle

1424
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: or whatever and you pump it out. But another option,

1425
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: if you want to go with a lighter option is

1426
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: actually less expensive, is uh a squeeze filter. And this

1427
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: is what I've used the past probably three years now,

1428
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: and I kind of love hate relationship with it. It's

1429
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: a little bit slower to use, but it is way

1430
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: it takes a lot less space and weight um and

1431
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: it's a Sawyer is the brand. And basically it's just

1432
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: a bag and you put the bag in the stream

1433
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 1: or the river and you kind of just move it

1434
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: around until it fills up with water, and then you

1435
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: just screw on the little bottle top and then you

1436
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: squeeze the water out of that bag through the bottle

1437
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: top and then it just comes out filter on the

1438
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: other side. And that was that's pretty handing. Like forty

1439
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 1: bucks or something like that um from a water standpoint.

1440
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: That was an option that worked well for me. And

1441
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: then what else cook set and stove. I use these

1442
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: actually not only just for my backpacking hunts, but also

1443
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: on my regular deer hunting camp camping trips. Uh Um.

1444
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: I've used an MSR Pocket Rocket stove. So it's just

1445
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, so you get the same one. It's

1446
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: just a little metal thing that screws onto a little

1447
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: fuel canister and it's basically just a burner, a little

1448
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: fuel burner, and you light it and you can then

1449
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: put your little pot on it and boil water or

1450
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: make whatever kind of food you want. So I use

1451
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: the MSR Pocket Rocket a little canister when these MSR

1452
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: fuel canisters. And then this cook set that I absolutely

1453
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: love is from a brand called g s I. It's

1454
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: the g s I Hell You Light solo ist Um,

1455
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: so that's hell You Light. That's h A l U

1456
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: l I t E and that's the soloist. So it's

1457
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: like a little pot set first solo for one person.

1458
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: So with this little pot, I can't do you have

1459
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: this one day or do you have something different? I

1460
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: have a different version of the same one because it

1461
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: comes in like it has different options, but I think

1462
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: I had either the step It might have been the

1463
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: step above yours offered some more extra things. Yeah, I

1464
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: can't remember which it was, but but the one I

1465
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: have it it's got this little pot. It's probably a

1466
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 1: four inch diameter bottom of the pot about five inches tall,

1467
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: and inside of it is a little fork, little spork,

1468
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: kind of expandable spork, and a little pot gripper, and

1469
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: then you can actually put your stove inside of that,

1470
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: and then there's a lid, and you know, you've got

1471
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: basically everything you need right there, so your pot so

1472
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: you can make water and then you put that in

1473
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: your freeze drying meal, or you can heat up water

1474
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: for coffee or heat up whatever food you want. You've

1475
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: got your little eating utensil, you've got your stove in there,

1476
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: and it's all in one little tiny kind of compartment.

1477
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: Um So I really like that. And then there's a

1478
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe this is the one you have. There's also a

1479
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: version called the Duellist d U A L I S T.

1480
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: And that's like the two person version of that. So

1481
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: it's got two kind of mug slash bowls. It's got

1482
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: the big pot, everything else you need Um, we've got

1483
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: one of those that we use when my wife and

1484
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: I backpack together. Um. So that's kind of the setup

1485
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: for the backpack hunts. The stove, the water sleeping system,

1486
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: you need a head lamp, um, your basic hunting gear. Um.

1487
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: And that's basically. I mean, there's a handful of other items.

1488
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you need survival kits, some first aid type stuff, knife,

1489
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: et cetera. But it's it's not crazy. It's there's not

1490
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: a crazy amount of stuff. And then when I when

1491
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm camping out of my truck or just car camping

1492
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: with a tent um, you know, the only things I

1493
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: would change is I would then add, you know, like

1494
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: a camp chair and I've got a Coleman stove that

1495
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: I used to make things when I'm car camping like that. Um,

1496
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: so you can grill burgers or steaks or whatever. And

1497
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: then on my like my Montana hunt, what I did

1498
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: is I brought my big cooler with a bunch of

1499
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 1: frozen meals. So I pre made dinners back home frozen,

1500
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: put them in the cooler, and then I ate that

1501
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: throughout my time while I was deer hunting there, so

1502
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have to buy stuff all time. So I

1503
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: just heated stuff up with my little stove or I

1504
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: I think when I had like lasagna soup one night,

1505
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: I had chili. One night, I had some kind of stew. Um.

1506
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: I can't remember whatever else, but I mean right there,

1507
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: I was able to caught my cut. My cut my

1508
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: costs exponentially, just because I kind of planned that out,

1509
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: and um, it's kind of fun. I slept in my back.

1510
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: I slept in the back of my truck most of

1511
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: the nights. Um. If you've got a top around your truck,

1512
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: that works really good. Um, I really like that. And

1513
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: then I brought the tent for one night when I

1514
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: killed my buck, I you know, put the buck in

1515
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: the truck and then slept out in the tent. Um.

1516
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever what other things that we talked about.

1517
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: It comes to gear man. I can't tell you how

1518
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: important it is to have a good pair of boots. Um.

1519
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: And I don't mean, you know, just go to Cabella's

1520
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 1: and buy a pair of boots. I mean do some research.

1521
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: Because and and part of this was my own fault

1522
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: because I didn't go take the proper steps too, because

1523
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 1: I I know, I knew I was going on this elkint.

1524
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: I bought a pair of boots, I broke them in,

1525
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: I wore them through mm hmm, like turkey hunting and

1526
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, but I didn't take the proper

1527
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: steps to take care of them like I should have.

1528
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is make sure they

1529
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: were waterproofed properly. Um. And and my feet got wet,

1530
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: and they were wet the entire My boots were wet

1531
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: almost the entire trip. So so I didn't have any

1532
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: blisters because they were well broken in, but my feet

1533
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: were wet, and from a mental standpoint, which kind of

1534
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: it kind of screwed with me a little bit. Yeah,

1535
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: for sure, that's glad you mentioned that, because if you're

1536
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: doing a Western hunt, that is almost the most important thing, right.

1537
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if your feet go, you go. That's my opinion.

1538
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: To your point, it's, uh, it's an easy way to

1539
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: lose your mental edge if you don't have that covered. UM.

1540
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: I have worn Danner boots out there elk cutting and

1541
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: I've worn Oslo hiking boots, and I've been really happy

1542
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: with both of them. UM. I would just say something waterproof,

1543
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: something that's broken in, and something that has a lot

1544
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: of support especially if you're backpacking in um or if

1545
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: you're hoping to pack out a deer and elk or

1546
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: some kind of animal, you need to have that support

1547
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: on your ankles and stuff. Otherwise you know, you can

1548
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: easily hurt yourself. So let's clutch. Um. Speaking of that

1549
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, packs, you gotta make sure you've got

1550
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: a good pack if you're gonna do even even for

1551
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: deer hunt, I had to have a good pack when

1552
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm packing in you know, your stand, your tree stand,

1553
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: your sticks, all that kind of stuff. I mean, having

1554
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: a good hunting backpack is really important. And I think, um,

1555
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned is that there really is something

1556
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: we said about like finding the right fit for your

1557
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: body right. So like I've had some packs with certain

1558
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: brands that I really liked, but they just didn't fit

1559
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: my body type right, So I've had to try different things. Um.

1560
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: So for example, for all my white to hunts, I

1561
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: use a sick toolbox backpack. I think it's too it

1562
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: might be the tool Bucket, and that's an awesome pack

1563
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: for my white tail hunts. Um. But when I use

1564
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: the sick of pack for my elk hunt, um, not

1565
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: that one, but a different one there, like BABT. It

1566
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: just didn't fit my torso type right. So when I

1567
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: when I was out there with a lighter load, it

1568
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: was great. But when I had a really really heavy load,

1569
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: it just didn't work right with I've got a really

1570
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: short torso long legs, so I had to try some

1571
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: different packs to find something that would handle the really

1572
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: heavy weights. While I've had other people that use that

1573
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: same pack and loved it. Um, it really comes down

1574
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: to if you're doing a backpacking type hunt, I think

1575
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: it's a really good idea to go into a store,

1576
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: try these different packs on, try to find a way

1577
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: to load them down with a lot of weight and

1578
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: see where it pulls on you, see how your body

1579
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: fits into it, um, Because that's another thing that I

1580
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: think you'll be really miserable if you don't have a

1581
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: good fit for your body. I mean, have you found

1582
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: anything like that when you went out there out one time?

1583
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Damn well, I'll be honest. I got lucky in that aspect.

1584
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: I think I had a Tensing four thousand UM that

1585
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: I bought for whitetail hunting. But it has a meat

1586
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: compartment and it's four thousand cubic inches so it it

1587
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: did exactly what I needed to do. If I, you know,

1588
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: shot a shot at Elk, I probably would have been

1589
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: able to put a quarter into it. But it fit

1590
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: me well. I didn't have any issues with having to

1591
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: continually adjusted or anything. I made sure that that pack

1592
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: was going to fit. Of course, when I was doing

1593
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: my exercises in the summertime, you know, I loaded it

1594
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: down with a lot of weight. I went on hikes

1595
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,480
Speaker 1: with it, looked for problem spots, and then I adjusted

1596
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: where I needed to. But it was good enough where

1597
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: I didn't need to go buy a new pack. Yeah

1598
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: that's nice. I think one of those One of the

1599
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: key things with that type of situation is that a

1600
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: lot of packs feel pretty good when you've got thirty

1601
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: pounds in it, or if you're backpacking into camp with

1602
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: forty five pounds or something, they feel pretty good. But

1603
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: when you're packing out Elk or something like that and

1604
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: you've got a hundred pound load, that's when you really

1605
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: tell if it's the right fit or not. Um Like

1606
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: that was when I figured it out. I was like, Okay,

1607
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: this just isn't working for me with pounds on here.

1608
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: Um So I tried one year. I tried an external

1609
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: frame backpack. So there's two different types. You know, there's

1610
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: the internal frame where it just looks like when these

1611
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: a cloth exterior backpack, and then the supports are inside

1612
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: of it, like the metal or plastic supports to give

1613
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: that pack some have to it to hold weight. Those

1614
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: are inside. And then there's the external frame backpacks. Those

1615
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: are the ones that you see like big metal piping

1616
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: outside of it kind of. So I've tried an internal

1617
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: frame that didn't fit my body right. So I tried

1618
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: an external frame the next year, and that probably would

1619
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,759
Speaker 1: have handled the heavier weight better, but it was bulky

1620
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: and cumbersome when I was just trying to like hunt

1621
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: during the day. Um, that was the pack I used,

1622
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: I think when I hunted with you. Um, it just

1623
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: wasn't great for the day to day hunts. And so

1624
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: this past year I use an XO Mountain gear pack

1625
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: and that I found fit my body right and was

1626
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: a good mix between the two. Had more support so

1627
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: that when I pad, we packed out a cow elk

1628
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I probably had a sixty five or

1629
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: seventy pound load maybe maybe more, and um, they handled

1630
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: that extreme weight much better. But then because it was

1631
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: still an internal frame pack. It handled the day to

1632
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: day hunts when I didn't have a lot of weight,

1633
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: and they're more comfortably and it just wasn't wasn't a cumbersome.

1634
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: So that was like the right fit for me. Um,

1635
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: I found that sweet spot between the two. So I think,

1636
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: I think that's an important decision. If you're gonna do

1637
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: one of these hunts, when you're gonna be packing out heavyweights,

1638
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: packing in camp, do you due diligence, try some different things, UM,

1639
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: figure out what fits you a So packs, we've talked

1640
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: camping gear, UM, you know, we've talked about different ways

1641
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: to fare all this stuff out. Trying to think one

1642
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: of the things you need to think about when going

1643
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: about any of these types of hunts, I think you

1644
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: know an important thing and again this this applies to

1645
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: any type of hunt trip is figure out what you're

1646
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna do with the meat and what you're gonna do

1647
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: with the animal, the cape or the antlers, taxidermy, all

1648
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Every different state has different regulations,

1649
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: there's different challenges with it. Um. What I've always tried

1650
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: to do is I've always tried to figure out where

1651
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: a processor is locally beforehand, so that you know when

1652
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: you're dealing with it. In the moment you do, you're

1653
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: not stressed about it because you know how it is.

1654
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: If you if you kill something, it always takes longer

1655
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: than you think to get it taken care of and

1656
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: get it back up to the truck and to take

1657
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: it wherever you go, And then if you have hot

1658
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: weather or something, then you're stressing about that. Um. So

1659
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: that's that's important. Figure out a process or if you're

1660
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna get processed, or if you're gonna do it yourself,

1661
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: make sure you get the right equipment. Figure all that out. Um.

1662
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: I'll make a list and check it twice. Yeah. Another

1663
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: important thing I think we've mentioned in the past, but

1664
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: if you're going to be driving home with that animal

1665
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: or parts of that animal, make sure you know the

1666
01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: laws about transporting carcasses, transporting antlers and meat. There's a

1667
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 1: lot of states now that don't allow you to transport

1668
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: meat across state lines. Not meat, sorry, but certain parts

1669
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: of a deer or elp because of disease issues. So

1670
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: for examples, out of the head, yeah, bringing it yeah, yeah,

1671
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 1: you got a debone the meat and you can't bring

1672
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: back like a full deer carcass, for example, from a

1673
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: c W deposit state back into Michigan or back into

1674
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: a different state. Um, you have to the meat's gotta

1675
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: be debone and take care of. And then you can

1676
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: only bring the cleaned skull cap so the antlers and

1677
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: then bone. But everything's got to be off of it.

1678
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: The brain tissue, all that kind of stuff has gotta

1679
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: be gone. Um. There's a lot of people right now

1680
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: that I think are shooting a deer in Iowa or

1681
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: Illinois or something, throwing in the back of the truck

1682
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: and then driving six hours back into Michigan or back

1683
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: to their home state, not knowing that what they're doing

1684
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: is legal. And if you get pulled over, you're you're

1685
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: in some trouble. Um. So make sure you know those

1686
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: regulations when you're doing anything like this. And the same

1687
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: types of things probably apply to elk and mule deer

1688
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: and different things on those lines. So what else stand

1689
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: have we not talked about when it comes to doing

1690
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: these types of trips or what else with your trip?

1691
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: Is there any other planning you've done for your Colorado

1692
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: trip that we haven't I mean, I haven't got into

1693
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: it yet. But the only thing that I have that

1694
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is like I said, as far as

1695
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: the location itself, that's pretty much taken care of through

1696
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: my friend. Um. The only thing that I need to

1697
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: do is double check all my gear and go through it.

1698
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: Make sure it's not heavily worn, make sure it works.

1699
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, sent my tent up. Check my straps on

1700
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: my backpack. Um, you know, make sure you gave me

1701
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: a checklist several years ago or when we before we

1702
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: went out on this that Idaho trip that we went on. Um,

1703
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: look through that again. Make sure I I you know,

1704
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: my knife, my knife is sharp and working good. Make

1705
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: sure I have the proper amount of you know, rope.

1706
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: Make sure I have my batteries and my head lamp work,

1707
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, make sure I have my my boots are

1708
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: up to par and and won't get you know, wet again.

1709
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: And and just make sure that everything is in working order.

1710
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: And if I need to purchase something new or whatever

1711
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,480
Speaker 1: for the trip I need to, I do that. Yeah,

1712
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: my wife and I actually just did that for our

1713
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: just general camping gear for this April trip or going on.

1714
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: We just we've got everything in these big totes. We

1715
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: took all the totes out, took everything out of the

1716
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: totes and just laid it out, like, here's all the

1717
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: camping stuff, here's all the kitchen and food stuff, here's

1718
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 1: all the backpack and stuff. Here's all the fishing and

1719
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: just went through every piece and just said, okay, do

1720
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: we need to replace the batteries in this? Or do

1721
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: we need to fix the waterproofing on that? I mean,

1722
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: doing that stuff ahead of time is always going to

1723
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: pay off. You don't want to realize you have a

1724
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: leaky tent when you're sleeping in the rain, you know, right,

1725
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: that's a fact. That is if and then you have

1726
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 1: to go and bring your sleeping bag in and snuggle

1727
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: up next to another grown man. Do you remember that

1728
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: very first night we ever camped together, we were spooning

1729
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: in Idaho? Like, you know, I just didn't think that

1730
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 1: was how I was gonna go. Did did you really

1731
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 1: try to get into my sleeping bag with me? I

1732
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: thought that was established, Okay. I just will never forget

1733
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: just my eyes opening in the middle of the night

1734
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, rain is like coming into

1735
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: my tent, and like what is going on? And then

1736
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: like this big bearded man sticks his head and says, hey, Mark,

1737
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I gotta come in here with you. You were so

1738
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: miserable to Yep, it was not fun. I mean I

1739
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: can remember taking I was a little bit hot and

1740
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I knew it was raining, but I was a little

1741
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: bit warm. So I unzipped my sleeping bag a little

1742
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: bit and put my one of my arms out and

1743
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: kind of when I rolled over on my side, my

1744
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: finger tips touched the bottom of the tent and it

1745
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: was just like running water. Well, long story short, my buddy, uh,

1746
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: that tent got put away still damp on one of

1747
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: his trips, and then he took it out when he

1748
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: got home and dried it off. But in that meantime

1749
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: that all the waterproofing got ruined off that tent, so

1750
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: it was just basically absorbed. It was like a sponge

1751
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: and absorbed everything in it. It all leak through. So

1752
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: but now I got a good kick ass tent and

1753
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: that should last me for several more hunts. Yeah, it's

1754
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: funny stuff like that. Like in the moment, right, you

1755
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: were miserable, But now like two years later, we can

1756
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 1: look back and say, oh man, that was awesome. That

1757
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: was funny. That's one of the other things about any

1758
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of trip like this is like when you go

1759
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: out there, it's gonna be challenging, Stuf's not gonna go

1760
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: as planned Um, but it's always a lot of fun

1761
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: to look back on. And it's actually a guy I

1762
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: met at Um at an event here relatively recently. It

1763
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: listens to the wire Dunk podcast, and he talked about

1764
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: how hearing some of our stories and some of the

1765
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: different things we've been talking about when it comes to

1766
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: doing a Western trip, it kind of inspired him to

1767
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: try to do something that himself. And now he's planning

1768
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 1: his first elk hunt too. He's gonna go out to Colorado,

1769
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: and he was talking how that helped motivate him to

1770
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: get through the end of college because he just knew

1771
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: when he got done with that, he was going to

1772
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: go on his first big Western hunting trip. And I

1773
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: think having a trip like this, planning something that, whether

1774
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: it be any of these things we talked about, planning something,

1775
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: getting out and trying something new, is a great way

1776
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: to just kind of get you through the year. To

1777
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: have something to look forward to, to push you to

1778
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: to learn new things makes you a better hunter. You know,

1779
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: whether you're hunting elk or mule deer or white tails.

1780
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 1: When you try something new, it's gonna make you a

1781
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: better general hunter. And you might not kill anything. Things

1782
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: might go wrong, but gosh, it's gonna be pretty awesome

1783
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: if you go into it with the right attitude and

1784
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: just lifelong memories. I'm just I'm all about trying these

1785
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: different new things. And you know, I'm probably not gonna

1786
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: kill bear. I might not kill caribou. Um. I don't

1787
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. I'm all the things we just

1788
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: talked about. I'm in the process of trying to figure

1789
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff out out. UM. But just like the

1790
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: act of trying just being out there looking for bears

1791
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: and just the act of being in territory where cariboo

1792
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: might be, UM, is gonna be such a cool experience

1793
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: and I know I'm going to grow a ton from it,

1794
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm pretty pumped for that. And it's like,

1795
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a hunter, I think a lot of

1796
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,480
Speaker 1: our are a lot of our life kind of revolves

1797
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: around the next season, over the next trip, um, And

1798
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: it's a way to kind of get you through the

1799
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: dull drums of the daily cubicle life or whatever it

1800
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: might be. UM. So I'm man, I'm all about these trips,

1801
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: planning them out, giving new things to try, and it's

1802
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna give us if nothing else, is gonna give us

1803
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: some good stories until down. You know. Amen, Amen, I'm

1804
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: pretty pumped. I'm I'm I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited.

1805
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting hungry too, So I think we should probably

1806
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 1: wrap this one up. Any any final thoughts down, Make

1807
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 1: the wife happy, make the wife happy, get your brownie points,

1808
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: balance things, and then don't be afraid to try this stuff.

1809
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I think that's a fact. That's a fact. Awesome man. Well,

1810
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: with that said, I think we should wrap this one

1811
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: up before we go, though, we do need to thank

1812
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,959
Speaker 1: our current partners who have helped make this podcast possible

1813
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: so big. Thanks to sit Good Gear, YETI Cooler's Ozonics,

1814
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Matthew's Archery, may Haven Optics, Whitetail, Institute of North America,

1815
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Carbon Express and hunt Terra Maps. And finally, thank you

1816
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: all for tuning in today. I hope you enjoyed our chat.

1817
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: Hopefully some of you will be heading out on some

1818
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: new hunting trips this year too, and of course I

1819
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: hope you'll stay wired to hunt