1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's been fourteen months since Justice Anton and Scalia died 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and left the Supreme Court with only eight justices. Since 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: then President Barack Obama nominated Merrik Garland for the seat, 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the Republicans refused to hold hearings or a vote on Garland. 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was elected. President Trump nominated Neil Gorcich. The 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Democrats in the Senate mounted a filibuster to prevent Garland's confirmation, 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: and Republicans voted to change the Senate rules to eliminate 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations. And now the fight 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: is over, as the Senate today confirmed Gorsage as a 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Justice of the Supreme Court. We're gonna talk about the 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Gorcage confirmation with Bloomberg Congressional reporter Laura Litvan Laura. It's 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: it will find out over the next twenty or thirty, 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: maybe forty years, whether Neil Gorsage is a historic justice 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: on the Court, what his significance is as a justice. 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: But this certainly was a historically significant confirmation process with 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: the elimination of the filibuster. Are the Republicans, you know, 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans got a big victory putting him on the court. 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Are they happy about having gotten rid of the filibuster 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: for Supreme Court nominations as well. Um, they were willing 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: to do this just seventy days into this new administration, 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: which was um, it's notable, but I don't think they 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: they in their view, felt they wanted to do it. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: What they've said is that they felt that the Democrats 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: would have um tried to block anyone that Trump brought in. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Democrats said that they were very concerned about this, this 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: judge that they had um reviewed his his past rulings 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: and felt that he was going to lend himself to 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: a five to four court uh and restored a kind 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: of conservative tilt of the court, and should be able 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: to use every tool they could to try to keep 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: him off. The real question I think going forward is 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: whether the animosity from the minority party that is sparked 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: by doing something like this because they did change Senate 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: rules with just a simple majority rather than the traditional 35 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: sixty seven, whether that animosity is going to carry over 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: into other things When they returned from the reset US, 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: they have a government shutdown looming and other very important 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: work coming up. Lauren, what what's some mood among Democrats. 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Obviously they're disappointed at the outcome, but in terms of 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the filibuster, UM, they could have saved the filibuster, you know, 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: thinking that, yeah, there's gonna be another Supreme Court nomination 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: UH the next time. Is it your sense that they 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: feel like they did what they that they had no 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: choice in this in this nomination. One thing that I 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: started to notice, um in the days leading up to 46 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: this was that Chuck Schumer started to note that he 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: was his belief that if there were another, in fact 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: another UH nomination under President Trump, and it was someone 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: who was viewed as more um offensive by their party base, 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: that the Republicans would just change it. Then if you 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: would preserve it, would they would just pull the nuclear 52 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: what they called the nuclear option, and change the Senate 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: rules at a later date. Anyway, they were also UH, 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: It's worth noting they were also there's a lot of 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: pressure from liberal groups UH for Democrats to oppose this nomination, 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: and letter came up very early on before the confirmation 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: hearings from Mayoral Pro Choice America, Alliance for Justice, and 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: other key groups saying that they felt that the Democrats 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: were not really taking them seriously enough and fighting Gore 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: such as much as they felt it was appropriate. Laura, 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: One question this raises about the filibuster more generally, because 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: now judicial nominations of any kind don't have aren't you 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: can't filibuster them anymore. Uh So, neither party can do 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: that no matter who's in power. But the filibuster for 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: legislation is still alive. So if the President is having 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: trouble getting his legislative package through, let's say, on the 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act, they come up with another healthcare planners, 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: or there's some piece of legislation the Democrats really hate 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: and filibuster. Do the Republicans have the appetite to get 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: rid of it for legislation as well? They say that 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: they do not. Mitch McConnell this week pledge that he 72 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: would not try to change the filibuster to try to 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: add to some pressure on party leaders. Um. We saw 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Susan Collins, a moderate in the Republican ranks, walking around 75 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: the Senate for while they were voting on the rules 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: change yesterday, handing out, uh something that people were signing. 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: We asked what that was. And she's circulating a letter 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: to leaders of both parties from as many lawmakers as 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: she can get signatures. From saying we will not support 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: a filibuster rules change for policy and um Mitch McConnell 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: didn't note that at a press conference today, and he 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: said he hopes to get it, get as many signatures 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: as possible. UM. Time will tell, though, if they really 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: are are pushed, if something will change. A number of 85 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Senators have said to me and other reporters, John McCain 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: and Lindsay Graham has said that they're concerned that that's 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: a slippery slope and that maybe could happen at some point. Well, 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: our thanks to Laura Livan Bloomberk's comngressional reporter for talking 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: to us about the filibuster. Neil Gorsage is now a 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: member of the United States Supreme Court in the court, well, 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: well almost, Michael. He still he still has to be 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: sworn in. Well, yes, he was going to be, though 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: it's a kind of before. I think he'll probably succeed 94 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: on the I think he I think he will. But 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: it was pointed out to me recently today that Edwin 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: Stanton back in the eighteen sixty nine was confirmed to 97 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court but died before it could be sworn in. Well, folks, 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that's what you get from Bloomberg's Supreme Court porter Greg 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: Storth Gregg. Thank you for that correction, but I'm gonna 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: stay with my assumption that Neil Gorson j Is in 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: fact going to be on the court. He'll probably figure 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: how to get this right