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Speaker 1: From studio connected by AT and T. Welcome to Between

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Speaker 1: the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. I'm joined by the Marco

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Speaker 1: far It is May the Fourth. May the Fourth be

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Speaker 1: with you? Really? Yeah? I like it? You know who

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Speaker 1: all said that today? Who? My sixteen year old daughter.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, thank you, very fun. That means you're doing

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Speaker 1: a good job as a parent. It is, uh what

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Speaker 1: a story still around? But yeah, yeah, May the Fourth

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Speaker 1: be with you? Yes, yes, exactly. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about coming off I am your father. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's impossible anyway, Yeah, all right, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about coming off of the NFL draft. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of picks. And you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were talking about before the draft, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the Rams don't have any picks. But they still they

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Speaker 1: got eight players. They got four on offense for on defense.

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Speaker 1: And I think we can say that the Rams got better,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hope so um funny. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're leading up to the draft, when you talk

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Speaker 1: to people outside the building, it they made it seem

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Speaker 1: like the Ram didn't have any picks at all because

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Speaker 1: you didn't have a first rounder. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: Those are the premium players, and you want as many

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Speaker 1: first rounders on your team as as possible. But I

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Speaker 1: saw a couple of teams loaded with first rounders that

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Speaker 1: didn't win. So picking in that round isn't the end

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Speaker 1: all be all. But you did have some good picks.

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Speaker 1: But I thought this was going to be an interesting

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Speaker 1: way to see how less Need and Sean McVay vibe

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Speaker 1: as a football couple, so to speak, by how they

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Speaker 1: pick and who they pick. So I think the first

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Speaker 1: three picks tell you, look, they're gonna fix the offense.

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Speaker 1: They're going to supplement Jared Goff. If you go a

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Speaker 1: little bit deeper, you know, all these guys are reasonably

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Speaker 1: smart players on offense, they're heady guys. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: for God's sakes, go listen to anything said about Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: It's all positive. I want this guy to marry my

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Speaker 1: daughter type plus play on my football team. So it

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Speaker 1: just gives you an insight as to the the new

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Speaker 1: era of RAN football. And with less Sneed and Sean McVay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that partnership and being in the draft room,

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Speaker 1: you know, I got kind of got to see it unfold.

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Speaker 1: You know, they really were in sync in the draft room.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the dreggor you're saying anything quiet. I was

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Speaker 1: really nervous. He didn't really out of the bathroom. I

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Speaker 1: did to raise your hand. No, no, I was okay,

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Speaker 1: we can get into this part. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we were, um, the way we had it set up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was basically sitting in the corner, so like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody goes in the corner, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they put me in the corner room. I'm not baby,

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Speaker 1: but um, so I called it the Cornerstone Corner with

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Speaker 1: Miles Simmons because if you look on the on the

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Speaker 1: rams dot com, you know, we've got these photo galleries

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Speaker 1: of everything that was going on inside the draft room,

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Speaker 1: and so there are a couple of pictures of me

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Speaker 1: because I'm right by the cornerstone monitor, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they paid for that monitor to be in there, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, you got to show them off somehow. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was the Cornerstone Corner with Miles Simmons. But I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, observed, irving basically all of the things that

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Speaker 1: the rams dot com. If you haven't checked them out.

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Speaker 1: Do go do that? Um? It was really just interesting

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Speaker 1: a to see the process of how things unfold, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you're I don't know what I don't

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Speaker 1: really know what I thought. Um, it's interesting. I mean obviously,

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Speaker 1: draft board, and even though I'm looking at it, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what in the world it is that I'm looking. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's extremely coded, so like even if I wanted to

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Speaker 1: don't know what the hell it is that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at there. So, I mean, you know, you see players names,

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Speaker 1: but there's all kinds of other things that go into

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Speaker 1: it because you can't tell people what. Right, So how

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Speaker 1: much is that worth? Not just this year, but I'm

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Speaker 1: for years. Bad drafts hamstring or franchise forever, like good

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Speaker 1: and how much is that line of thinking worth? It's interesting, No,

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Speaker 1: I think about the Cleveland Browns, especially in this sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many times he said it? First? I did?

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Speaker 1: He brought up the Browns because it's it's how many

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Speaker 1: list goes on and on and on. Right, So again, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, like bad drafts, like what what does that

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Speaker 1: look at? New England? Get lucky? Doesn't that just drive

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Speaker 1: you crazy? But how much? How much is it luck?

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Speaker 1: How much is it the town of value England finding

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Speaker 1: is what Going back to the Rams draft, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wonder is the draft room like the press box rules,

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Speaker 1: like once the pick is made, you're not in their

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Speaker 1: clapping or anything. Right, it's all business. It was pretty

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Speaker 1: much all well. I wouldn't say that there was like applause,

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Speaker 1: the other interesting thing. Now you know you've got all

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Speaker 1: of the basically in house content people. Right, So you

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Speaker 1: know we've got RAMS Broadcasting Network. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: these different things. So I think there are different draft

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Speaker 1: like they were pumped. They were popped after getting those picks.

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Speaker 1: it's not just money. But you know what, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: didn't mean gamble. I'm just I'm I'm trying to be nuanced.

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Speaker 1: they still get the guy in mind, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: specifically of Gerald Everett and Josh Yeah, I got more

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Speaker 1: you have to remember that, you know, the mel Kipers

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Speaker 1: that Todd mcchays get paid millions of bucks to rank

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Speaker 1: And if a GM and a coach goes outside of

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Speaker 1: to defend their lists. Sure by you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: look at you know, what Sean McVey likes to do offensively,

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Speaker 1: the pick actually makes sense. Oh yes, And then you

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Speaker 1: him on film, they're going to him. Yes, Um, I

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Speaker 1: so it actually fits and makes sense. It's just not

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Speaker 1: that's work. No, he is doing work. But and so

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Speaker 1: Those guys do. Yeah, they do a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: They watch a lot of film. But they're not in

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Speaker 1: as long as Jared Goff gets better and the offense

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Speaker 1: stays on the field and scores points than yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Tyler Higby, you have some options here, but you add

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Speaker 1: And I love the Cooper Cup pick. Yeah, that dude

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Speaker 1: did nothing but destroy any Pacific Northwest team he came across. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 1: dub who are that good? They become cougars. So why

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Speaker 1: But I love that pick. I think this guy is tremendous.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a hell of a career.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's here. I bet I know who else

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Speaker 1: I mean that is something that the Rams have sorely lacked.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about what he did against Oregon, that's

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what you need because I mean,

423
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Speaker 1: the way defensive backfields work and the way offenses work,

424
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Speaker 1: you're going to need more than three corners, right, Yeah,

425
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Speaker 1: you know, it's just the nature of offenses today in

426
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Speaker 1: the NFL. What was the guy I can't remember his name,

427
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, the Rams signed him, had him, let

428
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Speaker 1: him go. He was expected to play major minute, make

429
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Speaker 1: a sensible sensible and then you had to change course

430
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Speaker 1: later on. So that's the question mark. Remember we were

431
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Speaker 1: expecting him to be an X yeah, and he was

432
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Speaker 1: Z Yeah, he was zero. But then fortunately you don't

433
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Speaker 1: have to come on disparage the guy. I'm not just

434
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Speaker 1: saying I was being kind, but you had a plan

435
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: with this guy in mine and it did not work,

436
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: and you had the shift gears and you still made

437
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,719
Speaker 1: it work, Which means if you had your number one corner,

438
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: I think you can get away with mix and match

439
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: at the other one or two spots. Yes, And I

440
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: think that's probably what we're going to see, especially you know,

441
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: first quarter of the season, when coaches are still trying

442
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: to get to know their personnel a little bit better,

443
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 1: see what works what doesn't. I keep coming back to

444
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: this analogy or I don't know whatever it is, but

445
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins last year, you know, they did not

446
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: start out very well and then they kind of got hot.

447
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: We saw it, right, But I'm saying, you know, but

448
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: that's but that's the kind of thing that takes time

449
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: under a new regime. You know, it takes a little

450
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Speaker 1: bit of time to get everything going and to figure

451
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: out everything. Yeah, Jji, he started running over everybody, Yes

452
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, it makes it easier to win on Sunday, well, right,

453
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I mean, you know, you hope

454
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: that this year the the old line is revamped, you know,

455
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: everything starts getting going so that Todd Gurley can be

456
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: that guy and he starts running over every right. I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: I look, as long as the offense has an identity,

458
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Speaker 1: I think you have something. I wasn't sure what the

459
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Speaker 1: identity was. I think I think we kind of lost

460
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Speaker 1: sight of what they were trying to accomplish towards the

461
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Speaker 1: end of the year. Definitely, But I mean, as long

462
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Speaker 1: as you have some sort of identity, like going back

463
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Speaker 1: to the tight end pick, if you're if Josh McVeagh

464
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: covets tight ends and that's who he feeds the football to,

465
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Speaker 1: excuse me, Sean McVeigh, excuse me. If if he covets

466
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Speaker 1: tight ends and that's who he wants to feed the

467
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: football too in the passing game and it's working, then

468
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: so be it. Yeah. I don't think anybody's gonna care

469
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Speaker 1: if your tight end as you're leading receiver, if you're

470
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Speaker 1: scoring points. Yeah, And that was sort of the funny

471
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Speaker 1: thing I think after that pick on Friday night, he

472
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Speaker 1: said something about, yeah, you know, it's gonna be great

473
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Speaker 1: to have um, to have Everett, to have Higbee, to

474
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 1: have Hemmingway when we do our thirteen personnel, and then

475
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: we got three tight ends on the field and I

476
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: get tweets and they're like, what are they talking about?

477
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: Three tight ends? Like this one's twenty seventeen. It's like, hey,

478
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: do you care if they're going down the field and

479
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: scoring points? The answer is no, no, not at all. Yeah. Um.

480
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Speaker 1: On the other side, as a former defender, I hate

481
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Speaker 1: thirteen personnel because you don't know. It's so thinking multiple Yeah. Yeah,

482
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: you don't know you're behind as a defense because you

483
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Speaker 1: have tight ends that are blockers and receivers. Yeah. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: it's play action. Is it kills you? Um, if you

485
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Speaker 1: don't have tight ends and you're trying to run thirteen,

486
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: if they can't play, then it's easier for you. But yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: probably if chances are if you run thirteen all three

488
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Speaker 1: of the play? Was it? Pitta and Dixon U in

489
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: Baltimore for a while, Yeah, Um, they were oh my god,

490
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: they tortured people. Yeah, yeah, while they were healthy and

491
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Speaker 1: then it didn't work out well. I mean we've seen

492
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Speaker 1: the Patriots try to do this kind of thing too.

493
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Speaker 1: I mean think about last year with Um with Ronski

494
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Speaker 1: and yeah, and I was gonna say I'd rest his soul,

495
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: but the dearly departed the dear departed. But I mean, yeah,

496
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: you see the hell that two tight ends plays on

497
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: a defense, right, You're always going to be a man short. Yes, exactly.

498
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Speaker 1: So let's move on to Josh Reynolds, wide receiver at

499
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Speaker 1: A Texas A and M. Guy who can really stretch

500
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Speaker 1: the field. I think role player. I love it. Um.

501
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna as long as I mean, he's

502
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Speaker 1: gonna have to develop his skill set, right, yes, but

503
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Speaker 1: if what he does best is what this team needs, yes,

504
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Speaker 1: So as long as they feed him and don't change

505
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Speaker 1: him at all early, I think you can see some

506
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Speaker 1: some really some explosiveness out of this, out of this

507
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: offense if he makes the opening day roster. You know,

508
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Speaker 1: the thing that sort of stands out to me about

509
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Speaker 1: him is his sort of weight. I mean, he's six

510
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Speaker 1: foot three, but he's listed I think just under two

511
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds, so I mean he's kind of kind of lightweight.

512
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Speaker 1: He's I know, you could probably stand st to gail

513
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Speaker 1: football uniform. The video of him playing football really kind

514
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: of the same deal. Well, I mean I've seen him

515
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Speaker 1: in person. He um Snoop Dogg came to Columbia my

516
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: freshman year. He did a concert. Yeah, it was cool,

517
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: but like that that really doesn't the size of that

518
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Speaker 1: m yeah, exactly, Yeah, just really really is rail really thin. Um.

519
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: But with Reynolds, what what I like about him, having

520
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: watched a little bit of him, is that he can

521
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Speaker 1: elevate and he catches the ball with his hands, and

522
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Speaker 1: I think that's something too that we really just haven't seen.

523
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen guys elevate, they just didn't catch

524
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Speaker 1: it right. And you're thinking about the same guy I'm

525
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: thinking about in Washington, right, elevate a lot, right, And

526
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Speaker 1: I think if Josh Reynolds can come in and fill

527
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Speaker 1: that kind of rule where you know, look, if you're

528
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Speaker 1: on the four yard line, you throw this guy a fade.

529
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Speaker 1: You just kind of throw it up there and gosh,

530
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Speaker 1: I wish I could remember what the rules are for

531
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Speaker 1: the fade. It was on the Green Quarterback camph whatever,

532
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: but rules for the fade. Yeah, it's like, you know,

533
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: like you throw it when he's sort of eight yards

534
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: something and then like you throw it high. I'm really

535
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: watching this. This is a really great segment. No, this

536
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: is fun. Please explain this to me. I'm trying to

537
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: explain it, but I don't know what. I'm okay, yeah, yeah,

538
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, when you're just kind of in the end zone,

539
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of chop a little bit, you're

540
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: breaking down, and then you're like, because it could could

541
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Speaker 1: he go for a slant? Could he go for the fade?

542
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Speaker 1: And then you're going for the fade and then the

543
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: time's got to be right. But you got to make

544
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Speaker 1: sure you're leading your wide receiver up so that you're

545
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Speaker 1: putting it where only he can get it. And that

546
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Speaker 1: I think is something that if the Rams can do

547
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Speaker 1: that with Reynolds, Bill being good thing. God, you're not

548
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: a receiver's coach. Oh I would be horrible. God, Miles

549
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator right there. Oh yeah, I'm brilliant. This

550
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Speaker 1: is why I score like fourteen points. It matched sense.

551
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: I see. It's there's a definite need and a role

552
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: for him, and I think he fits the skill set.

553
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: So when you look at Everett, then you look at

554
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Cup and then you look at Reynolds, it actually makes sense.

555
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Speaker 1: Now that's saying all three of those guys get on

556
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: the field at the same time, which I don't know

557
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: right exactly. That's something that's probably two three years. We

558
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. But I get where

559
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: you're going with that. Yeah, yeah, But what I like

560
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: about him is that the talent evaluators in the room

561
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: and in the draft room were really, really, really excited

562
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: about this pick. And you know, talking to Eric Yarbor

563
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: Wide Receivers coach sort of right after the pick, he

564
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: was saying that really didn't think this was a guy

565
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: that would be around in the fourth round. And you know,

566
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: a little, little, a little makes you wonder, well, look

567
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: the production back to Cooper Cup. How does this guy

568
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: not wind up at a D one school somewhere? Right? Okay?

569
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Why does he slip to the fourth? Sure? But I'm

570
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: looking at the production. The production is there. I mean,

571
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: this guy caught a touchdown at least one touchdown passing

572
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: his last eight games. That's what we Texas say in it.

573
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: We know right, well, right, so there's something there. I

574
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: don't know and I'm not I mean, maybe we'll find out,

575
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: but I think me maybe it is you know, the weight,

576
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of it, you know, comed Is, Yeah,

577
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: it's he had a couple too many drops. I've seen

578
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: that a little bit um as you read it, But

579
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: I did you maybe listen to the phone call that

580
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: he had with less sneed and the rest of the

581
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: stuff briefly maybe go ahead, yeah, so, but I mean

582
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: he was he was, you know, upset that he had

583
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: lasted so far into the fourth round, and he's saying like,

584
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming in there, and like, man, you guys, guys,

585
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: beg you're ready because like I'm I'm coming. So the

586
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: receiver doesn't say that, well I don't know, but you know,

587
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: but like yeah, and I tweeted this on Saturday, but

588
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: like I don't really like the expression, oh he's got

589
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: a chip out his shoulder, because like, oh my god,

590
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a chip on their shoulder? Like I

591
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: have a chip on my shoulder obviously, Yeah, all right, exactly,

592
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: so that oh please, it's not like what did I

593
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: read about that one time? And you're like, what's going

594
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know else? You know, My point is simply

595
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: keep in front of me. Yeah, I know. Josh Reynolds

596
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: is I think the kind of guy that we get

597
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the chip on the shoulder expression from and then we

598
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: use it for all kinds of different people. But he

599
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: is somebody who if you listen to that phone call,

600
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: you can tell like, man, this guy really does have

601
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. Super competitive guys. And the

602
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: funny thing is there are jobs open. There were jobs

603
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: to be had on this football tip. Absolutely good. You

604
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: like people that don't feel like they're entitled to start.

605
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: They need to earn it. Love that, Yeah, makes everybody better.

606
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, But I mean it's not the people

607
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: that I'm really interested in with his draft. It's really

608
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it from a Jared Goff perspective. Anyway.

609
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: You have more training tools for him to get better.

610
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: You've got a guy you can trust, you've got a

611
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: deep threat, You've got this, You've got Tavon, You've got

612
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: things that are going to help him mature as a

613
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football they're going into year two.

614
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: Not only that, but you also have the staff coaching

615
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: staff around him. You know, you've got Sean mc by

616
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: the head coach, with a lot of quarterback developing experience

617
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. You've got Matt Lafleur who was the

618
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach in Atlanta, and Matt Ryan just had an

619
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: MVP season. I think it speaks for itself. And then

620
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, who was around the Rams for a long time. Yeah,

621
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Speaker 1: I'm back in the mid two thousands, you know, and

622
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: then he has gone on and he's had plenty of

623
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Speaker 1: success in other places as an offensive coordinator and a

624
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach. So this this staff, along with the pieces

625
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: that they have brought in, they are really trying to

626
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: set up the offense for a success. They're really working

627
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: on it. Do you like Kirk Cousins as a quarterback?

628
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: That's a loaded question. Well, yes, because he has been effective.

629
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Speaker 1: So yes, playoff guy, right, Well, they just mean the

630
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: playoff guys. They just went to the playoffs. He will

631
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Speaker 1: take you mean, he will take you to the playoffs.

632
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Speaker 1: Do you think his perception is around the league? Around

633
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: the league internally? I know when you talk about the elites,

634
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: his name doesn't come up. Oh no, when you talk

635
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: about the bad quarterbacks. Do you lump him in that group?

636
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: I would I don't think you can. After the last

637
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: couple of years, he's had above or below Alex Smith

638
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: just just um slightly below. I mean they're like about

639
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: the same. For me, I would say they're about the same.

640
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: I thought Kirk Cousins has been He lit it up

641
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. The only difference and maybe This

642
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: would actually put Kirk Cousins above Alex Smith. In my

643
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: mind is that Kirk Cousins has shown a tendency and

644
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: an ability to throw down the field more so than

645
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. And I maybe right, and maybe I have

646
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: this perception because of the way I was studying Sean

647
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: mcvay's offense when the Rams hired Sean McVay. But there

648
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: are plenty of examples of kirk Cousins throwing down the

649
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: field to the DeShawn Jackson, Pierre Garson, Um, even Jordan Reid.

650
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it will last few years, but even the short

651
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: to intermediate he's pretty accurate. Yes, Yeah, he's pretty good.

652
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: So I think of Jared Goff and his aturation and

653
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: his ongoing skill development. If he has that same sort

654
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: of growth pattern, you're talking about a playoff football team

655
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: sooner than later. Yes, So when I do say, well,

656
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: I think Jared Goff can be Kirk Cousins, I don't

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: know why people kind of snicker and laugh at that. Yeah,

658
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I would love to have a Pro Bowl quarterback on

659
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: this foot. Yeah. I don't think that's insulting at all

660
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: based on what Kirk Cousins has done the last couple

661
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: of years. It's either you gotta be Aaron Rodgers, Tom

662
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Brady or that's it, right, there's no in between. Wait

663
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: a minute, there's some guys out there that are really

664
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: pretty good at what they do. Now, the team may

665
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: not win as much as you like, but I don't

666
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: think that's all because of them, right, I think there's

667
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: other problems that keep teams in winning. But if you can,

668
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: if Jared Goff could have that same sort of incremental

669
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: improvement that Kirk Cousins had in Washington, then yeah, the

670
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: whole trading up to get him and given up a

671
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: first rounder this year makes sense, right, because then you

672
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: have Jared Goff becoming a franchise quarterback. And that sort

673
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: of seems to be the debate or discussion continues to

674
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: go on in Washington, is whether or not Kirk Cousins

675
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback. And I think by and large,

676
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, look, he is the best quarterback that Washington

677
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: has had in probably the last ten years, right, I mean,

678
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: aside from the rookie year by Robert Griffin, the third

679
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: who is now out of the NFL right now. I

680
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: mean he's sitting home as a free agent. Nobody has

681
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: had the kind of year for that franchise as Kirk

682
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Cousins has had over the last couple of years. So

683
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: is he a franchise quarterback? I think right now you

684
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: have to say yes. I think the problem is the

685
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: paycheck that comes with it, right, But I don't know.

686
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: But that's the cost of doing business in the NFL,

687
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, that's just the quarterback is the

688
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: most important position, right and it's the quarterback you're gonna

689
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: have to pay the most. And if you don't have

690
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, then what are you going to do? That's

691
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: my point. Yeah, so you gotta pay if you just

692
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: keep it to the field and forget about the money

693
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: for a hot second and just look at how he

694
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: plays and what he did last season versus some pretty

695
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: good guys on the other side of the football field.

696
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: You would want that on your football team if you

697
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback. Huh. But you may blanch when

698
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: the paycheck comes due. Oh my god, twenty five million

699
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: white men hold on the second airy. That's I mean.

700
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: But the thing, the thing that always gets gets me is, Okay,

701
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: like when fans say this, like I can't believe they're

702
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: paying that much like a fans is not your money,

703
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: it's not my money, it's it's the ownership money. B

704
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the salary cap is going to continue to go up. True.

705
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: So basically, I mean it's like when I but I

706
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: don't want to tie up that much money into a

707
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: guy that I'm not one hundred percent sure about. And

708
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I think that's fair when we talk about what else

709
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: is he mean to see? In order what more would

710
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: make you one hundred percent sure what Mike Ryan did

711
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: because Matt Ryan took it to a different level. But

712
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has always kind of been Matt Ryan has

713
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: been good, he's been solid, he's been a franchise quarterback,

714
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: and then this season he turned into a he went

715
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: to great and he's going to keep growing. I think, so, yeah,

716
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins is behind him, slightly behind him,

717
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: He's definitely behind him, and so there's another gear there,

718
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I wouldn't even hesitate to pay him what

719
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: he wants, of course not. But that's but again, to me,

720
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: it's just the cost of doing business in the NFL.

721
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot easier to say, Okay, this

722
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: is probably a guy that we're not sold on because X,

723
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: Y Z than it is to say we're really sold

724
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: on this guy, so and we're just talking money. Yes, yeah, yeah,

725
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: So how basically I think the key is to sort

726
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: of branp back to the Rams. How do you get

727
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Jared Goff to be the guy that you are sold

728
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: on so that he becomes the franchise quarterback. Well, you're

729
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: getting the right pieces, the right type of guys here,

730
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: guys that he likes. Like I said, that's going to

731
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: help him improve and then you'll see what he does

732
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah. Yeah. If the offense starts to grow

733
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: and then it takes off for stretches or maybe the

734
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: whole year, I think that starts to turn a fan

735
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: base and a franchise towards this is our guy right

736
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: for the future. He can write his own ticket. And

737
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: there's only one a handful of guys like that in

738
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the league period, right exactly. But I kind a real

739
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: legit some guys are getting paid like that. Yeah, but

740
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: they aren't those guys, right, And that's that's the thing

741
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: you have to sort of work up to. And I

742
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: think if this offense can get some kind of dynamic

743
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: quality so that they can go down the field and score.

744
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: So it's not you know, three and out and you're

745
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: only converting two third downs a game or whatever it was.

746
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Then that also is obviously going to sell you more

747
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: on the quarterback right there there. The way this offense works,

748
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: of my understanding of it, is that there are a

749
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: lot of roles on this offense, and so you have

750
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: to get the players around the quarterback in order to

751
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: fill those roles so that those the offense can have

752
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: its dynamic quality you can go down the field and score.

753
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: So you need like your pass catching tight end, um,

754
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: like Gerald Everett is slated to be. You need probably

755
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: another on the other side as a tight end, so

756
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: a Tyler Higbee, right. You need guys on the outside

757
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: who can stretch the field. You know, your your table

758
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: on Austin's of the world, um, and on one hand,

759
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: and then probably you're Josh Reynolds of the world. And

760
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: then you also need somebody yeah perhaps right exactly, and

761
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: then you also need your guys who are possession guys.

762
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: So that could be your cooper cup. As long as

763
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: these roles are being filled, that I think is how

764
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: we're going to see the offense step up. What yeah, okay,

765
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: what I see how you are. Oh stop, how he's

766
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: one of the he has elite slot receiving numbers. Wow, Okay,

767
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what what people have said over

768
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: the over the course of Okay, But the thing. The

769
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: thing about Cooper Cup though, is a quarterback shot not

770
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: with your body type. That's why you're not going to

771
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: be a quarterback. Go over there, you your defense over there?

772
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: You have yeah defensive mind over there. There he is

773
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: right there, there's your guy right give me. That's why

774
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: he plays so hard because of that right there. That's

775
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: why that's why he plays. But here's what I was

776
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna and you didn't really allow me to finish my point,

777
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: which is that a because he's six foot two and

778
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: he's two, he can play on the outside. I mean

779
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: they lined him up out there at Eastern Washington, and

780
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: I think he runs a bit faster than his what

781
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: he was like four six forty plays fast. Yeah, a

782
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: lot of guys are like that exactly. I don't know

783
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: what Marshall Falk ran in the forty. I know it's fast,

784
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: I really do. I'm being serious. I don't know what

785
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: his actual forty time was. All I know is I've

786
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: never seen anybody catching, that's fair. Yeah, Jerry Rice, what's

787
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: his forty times? Who cares once he's out in front?

788
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, So um, that's that's that. So let's go

789
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: through these last few picks here. Yeah, Samson abucom another

790
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Eastern Washington guy, Abukan. What did I say? I'm just asking.

791
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: It's eb Con right, Yeah, I love that name. Yeah.

792
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: It sounds like something about a star trek, doesn't it. Yeah. Yeah,

793
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: I had like right right after they they made the pick,

794
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: I went to Joe Barry and I was like, and

795
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this guy, but I

796
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: don't know that I can pronounce his last name. So

797
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: we had some pronunciation lesson. Yeah, calm, calm, excuse yes,

798
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: I think yes, um has a chance. Yeah. Look, you're

799
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: in a three four. You're gonna need stand up guys

800
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: that can go. Um. Good for you. Um. I bet

801
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: he's real happy being selected by the Rams. Oh yeah yeah,

802
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: heck yeah, So come in and do what you do best.

803
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: Let's see where the chips fall. Yeah exactly. Marcus Smart

804
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: and his name is not Marcus, got darn it. Okay,

805
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: it's Tanzell. Marcus Smart as a basketball players so bad

806
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: because you know what I wrote that I knew. I relax.

807
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: His name is not Marcus Smart. Yes, that's okay. He

808
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: good guy. You know he played well, It's okay. He's

809
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: not a power forward. Depth I think it's important. Here's

810
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: the funny thing, right, I think you have the best

811
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: down lineman in football. And I'm being generous because I

812
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: really think you have the best defensive player in football

813
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: on this football team and Aaron Donald. And I'm not

814
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: worried about the transition from a four three to a

815
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: three four with Amadi. Wherever you put Aaron Donald, he's

816
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: going to be Aaron Donald because he's a baller. Whoever's

817
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: on over top of him has his hands full and

818
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: you're going to need to um. And I might actually

819
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: be better if he's on the nose, because I can

820
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: tell you this as a former three technique, A tackle

821
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: guard double team is a lot heavier than a guard

822
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: center double team. Yeah, centers aren't as big as tackles,

823
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: so you may actually get more Aaron Donald. But here's

824
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: the thing that I do worry about is what happens

825
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: when ad takes a break. What's on the field, Now,

826
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: where's your size? And if it is dominic easily. Well,

827
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: the size is similar, but the ability and drink may

828
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: not be sure, so you might lose something there. So

829
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: if I do have to put a D on the bench,

830
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather sub in. You're not going to find anybody

831
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: as good or even close, but at least I could

832
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: go bigger, right, at least I could say I got

833
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: size out there. So the bigger the better, or the

834
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: younger and stronger the better. You know, watching him in

835
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: some of his tape at two Lane, they played a

836
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: game against Memphis and it was sort of the only

837
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: one I can find. It was from twenty fifteen, but

838
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: basically every play he was into the guard at the

839
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: snap and you could see guard's head is like just

840
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: back and it's you know, that's to me. It shows

841
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: the strength, It shows how he can use his leverage.

842
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: And you know, his production was good too. When I

843
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: watch I can tell he was coached very well. I mean,

844
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: his technique is he's got great technique run too and

845
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: run away. Yeah, runaway is where guys can really take

846
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: a break. Right playing defensive line, I'm letting you in

847
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: on a secret. If the ball is going away, you

848
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: could find ways to get caught up in traffics, so

849
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: you don't have to spread fifteen yard. You know, hold

850
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: me back, hold me back, hold me back. But when

851
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: you see guys that are good on run two and away,

852
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: they're pursuing hard, that's well coached. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

853
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: that's a good player. The thing that defensive line coach

854
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Bill Johnson said to me that and I that I

855
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: took away from our conversation was they really liked smarts production.

856
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, he had eighteen and a half tackles for

857
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: loss in five and a half sacks in his senior

858
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: year at Tulane. And so when you're doing that from

859
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: that defensive line spot, I think it says something the

860
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: sack is the coolest play in football because it's just

861
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: it is, it's your time. They give you a little

862
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: chance to celebrate for a second. Yeah, no, it's a

863
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: big play. So anytime you see a guy making plays

864
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: up the field, or let me back up when I say,

865
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: look as far as being a down lineman playing that position,

866
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be wrong, be wrong up the field. Yeah,

867
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's something really it shouldn't be that hard

868
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: to teach, but it is hard for some guys. If

869
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: they're wrong. They're wrong on the line of scrimmage. That's bad, right,

870
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: you don't want to be wrong. There sure be wronging

871
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: up the field. Good things. It happened, so obviously he's

872
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: got that part of the game down. So as long

873
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: as he keeps getting better at this level when guys

874
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: are bigger, stronger, and there the rule enforcement is a

875
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: little more. How should I say, wax, they don't call

876
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: holding as much. Yeah, as long as you can find

877
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: a way to fight through that, right, then I think

878
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: you have a chance. Yeah, all right, so Sam Rogers,

879
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: So this one is interesting because it's the fullback? Love

880
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: it right? Yeah? I love it too. I had to

881
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: like train my hand to write fullbaf because we when's

882
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: the last time you wrote fullback? Not often? How do

883
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: you spell f U l l A? I had to

884
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: look it up again. I forgot how to spell fullback.

885
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one in forever. Well, it's interesting because

886
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: I mean you think about John Gruden, right, yea Spider two?

887
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: Why banana? What Spider two waves a fullback? And so

888
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how much fullback we're going to see,

889
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: but Nick, they did say, you know, they might go

890
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, twenty two personnel. It's some points. And

891
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: so Zach Laski, who is right now the only other

892
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: fullback on the roster and he comes from Georgia Tech,

893
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: kind of did similar things in college as Sam Rogers.

894
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: But mcveay was saying that those two will have a

895
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: chance to compete and see, you know who comes out

896
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: on top there for a fullback position. You're a basketball fan,

897
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I am professional NBA. Yes, if you're not the Golden

898
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: State Warriors, would you try to run with them? Would

899
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: you try to beat Golden State at their own game? Well,

900
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: if you're Houston maybe, If you're anybody else, yes, if

901
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: you're anybody else, I mean even the Calves, Like it's

902
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: it's very hard because you know, the Calves can score

903
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: with the best of anybody, so you might you might

904
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: try to muscle them a little bit. Yeah, I guess

905
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: that's your only approach, So you're only it's your only hope.

906
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: So if every defense in this division is built to run,

907
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: outside of Seattle, which is built to do both, they'll

908
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: knock your teeth out and run at the same time.

909
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: If every defense in this division or in this conference

910
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: is built to run, why not go fullback and pound

911
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: them right, Yeah, it makes sense, right if he gives

912
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: them something else to think about. UM. In college, I

913
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: think you have to. It's it's more pronounced, at least

914
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: when I was in college. You'll face teams that throw

915
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball, and then

916
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: once on your schedule you face a running team. So

917
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: everything you did is out the window and this is

918
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: how you have to play. So if you do have

919
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: a fullback on the roster, that opposing defense is gonna

920
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: have to rep twenty one personnel. They're gonna have to

921
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: rep twenty two personnel. They're gonna have to replicate what

922
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: you do to stop you. So that does provide some

923
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: some advantage for a coaching staff. It does, and I

924
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what they're trying to look at,

925
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: just different matchups. How can we And if you don't

926
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: have a fullback to replicate, you can put a tight end,

927
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: you can put people there in practice, but it's nothing

928
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: like what a real fullback is going to give you

929
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: on game exactly. So I think that's one of these

930
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: advantages that they're trying to get at by taking a

931
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: guy like Rogers. Last guy seventy better be able to cover. Yes,

932
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: because you know you're gonna play a special team. Yeah,

933
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: they should bring like the old fashioned lunch pail and

934
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: a hard bat. That's how you should show up to

935
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: work every day because that's your job. Yes, no, it is.

936
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: And it was funny in that pick. You know they're asking,

937
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: they're they're talking to to Bone's fossil and being like, hey, man,

938
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get this guy. And Bones exciting because

939
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: he knows that Sam Rogers is a kind of guy

940
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: that's going to come in and he's going to play specialty.

941
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: If I see him in like nikes or designer shoes,

942
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be mad. You should wear brogans. You should

943
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: wear like Brogan work boots every day because that is

944
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: your job. Don't ever forget who you are, so how

945
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: bad they're gonna be. I don't even know what what

946
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: are brogans? What is that? Like like work boots, like

947
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: construction work boots, And you think of guys that work

948
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: construction boots they wear. There's a reason why I don't know.

949
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's that Now, when you make

950
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, then you can wear a suit. Yeah,

951
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: you can become Moose Johnson. You can become a specialist,

952
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: but until then you're a fullback. Go out there and

953
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: short and some next next that all right, last guy

954
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: picked two thirty four for the Rams. There their last

955
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: pick was outside linebacker defensive and what you're gonna call

956
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: them age one price? Uh, sort of an undersized guy.

957
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: He's an outside linebacker, not whatever you want to call him.

958
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, outside linebacker in Wade Phillips game. Pardon me.

959
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: He was a defensive end mostly at pitt which and

960
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be a outside lineback. Um. He is

961
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: not as big as mini pas defensive ends now in

962
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: this defense or three hundred pounds. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

963
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: He's listed at two. That's an OLB. Yeah, that is

964
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: definitely not a defensive end unless you're just unless you're

965
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: what's his butt up in Denver? Then you can be

966
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: that anyway. But but what's interesting is, you know, he's

967
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of production too, and you know the tackles,

968
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: flush got the sacks, um. And what I thought was

969
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: funny is there's an ape reporter, Will Graves out of Pittsburgh,

970
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: and he was basically saying, you know, and a sudden

971
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: somewhat undersized pit defender goes to the rams that worked

972
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: out pretty well the last time. Ha ha, right, I know, yeah, yeah,

973
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: I like it. If look, if you can get that

974
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: same sort of tenacity, you're all over it, no doubt.

975
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I think this was the quote I read about he

976
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: gets to do what he does best, which is rushed

977
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: the passer on the edge. Okay, well, this is professional football,

978
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't get to do what you do

979
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: best all the time. Sure, so sometimes you're gonna have

980
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: to do what you don't like, drop right, play the run,

981
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: do a lot of other things that will help a

982
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: team win. That might be your role. So I know

983
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: you can rush, but let me see if you can

984
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: do this too, to see how much I can put

985
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: you in the rotation. If you're that good of a

986
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: pass rusher, chances are you going to be out there

987
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: no matter what. Any But if you're a role player,

988
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: then you might have to do things that you don't

989
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: normally like well, and that's especially being a seventh round pick.

990
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, being here as long as I've

991
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: been here, I've seen it where seventh round picks don't

992
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: make the roster, right, I mean, you know, you get

993
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: these college free agents that come in, and sometimes you

994
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: get competitions and some people do better on special teams

995
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: than others. So basically, all the seventh round pick kind

996
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: of guarantees you as a meal ticket, right, and you

997
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: gotta work, you gotta yeah, and you've got to make

998
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: sure that you know you do what you do in

999
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: order to make the wrong. Well, there's seventh round pick

1000
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: that says all I do is rest the passer, and

1001
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: then there's Robert Quinn who says that, Okay, he's earned it. Yeah, yeah,

1002
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: that's what he does. Yeah, yeah, he gets two quarterback

1003
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: gets ball out. That's why he says, I rush passer.

1004
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: We like that. You you're gonna have to earn that, right,

1005
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: And so did he. Yeah. So one of the storylines

1006
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: that came out of this draft off for the Rams

1007
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: was they didn't pick any offensive lineman. Is that a

1008
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: big deal or not a big deal? Um? Well yeah,

1009
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: if um, if you go back and look at film

1010
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: from last season, yeah, you'd think that, Okay, you need

1011
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: more guys, new and different guys. But maybe sometimes in

1012
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: football And this is so funny. We were just talking

1013
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: about this this the other day. If the Robinson Havenstein

1014
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: right side actually works out. Then Sean McVeigh is a genius.

1015
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: But all he did was flip position. Yeah, it's not

1016
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: new guys, he just put him here and him here right,

1017
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: and it started to work and EU a genius. So look,

1018
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: I still think you've got some talent, some young talent

1019
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: with a lot of experience. Maybe a different voice in

1020
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: the offensive meeting room could get more out of them,

1021
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: because it's not physical, right, I think the guys that

1022
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: struggled with physical aren't here anymore. In a season or

1023
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: a season or two from now, maybe the guys who

1024
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: struggle with it mentally won't be here. But physically, all

1025
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: these guys are good enough to play, right. And so

1026
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: that's the thing that Lessoni has talked about that I

1027
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from. And what he has said

1028
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: is that, look, you know, you go back to twenty fifteen,

1029
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: the Rams, you know, block for Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley

1030
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: had over eleven hundred yards and was one of the

1031
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: top three rushers in football, and with largely the same group,

1032
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: you didn't have that kind of production at all, right, Right,

1033
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: So what basically he's saying, what is it? You know?

1034
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: And they're also talking about it. I think you know

1035
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: what it is. They're just trying to be nice, right, Yes,

1036
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: But the other thing about it now is that you

1037
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: have a guy with Aaron Kromer, who has a large

1038
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: resume of success, going different places, doing different things with

1039
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and he tends to get the most out

1040
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: of them. And so when I hear Less Snead and

1041
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Sean McVay say, look, there are guys in this group

1042
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: that we that the Rams just drafted a couple of

1043
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: years ago that Aaron Kromer wants to work with. I

1044
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: take that to heart, and you at least give Kromer

1045
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with some of these guys and

1046
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: make him beat the same guys were on everybody's draft board. Yeah,

1047
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: whatever team he was on didn't pick them. But it's

1048
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: not like he doesn't know who they are, that's true,

1049
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: or have him highly regarded. So yeah, there's there's talent here.

1050
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: I have a question another. This isn't loaded. It's just

1051
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: a tough question, huh. And there's really no right or

1052
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: wrong answer because we're going to find out what if

1053
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Greg Robinson plays a better right tackle than Havenstein, But

1054
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: Havenstein can't handle guard. Well, that's it's unfortunate. I mean

1055
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Jamon Brown plays guard then. Yeah, between those three,

1056
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: somebody's going to be the backup. Yeah, absolutely, that makes sense.

1057
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: And Cody Wickman too, we have to add him into

1058
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: the mix. Always got you know. Yeah, I don't know

1059
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: how many starts, but he started, you know, nearly, he

1060
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: started a bunch of games over the last two years.

1061
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I can't remember the number off time. You hope whatever

1062
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: you throw out there for your first mini camp is

1063
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: your offensive line that lastly the Super Bowl? Right, But

1064
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: chances are there's going to be some mix in the matchup. Yeah,

1065
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean some like Andrew Whitworth were assuming here's a

1066
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: guy that I'm circling that I'm saying left tackle is

1067
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: is done. Yea, we don't have to worry about that.

1068
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: Roger Saffold staying healthy, playing great football last year, you're

1069
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: set in stone. I assume your center is going to

1070
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: be Sullivan. I can't think that's a safe assumption as

1071
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: of right now because there are no real other centers

1072
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: on the roster with Rainy as a backup, I mean,

1073
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: and that's we'll find out, right And then the right

1074
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: side of the line will work itself out. So if

1075
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: those guys come together, if you could find a way

1076
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: to get more out of that group, that's obviously going

1077
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: to help your offense, help Jared Goff, and help all

1078
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the other picks and everybody else that's here move the

1079
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: football into the end, right and they you know, I

1080
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: always a long way to say. That's why I'm not

1081
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: shocked I didn't pick alignment. Yes, meets you and I

1082
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: always love this because that's what we always said in

1083
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: high school. But it always starts up front, always. Yeah,

1084
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: so you know, you have to make sure that that's

1085
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: that that group of players is solid so that you

1086
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: can do everything else that you want to do until

1087
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: your quarterback becomes an all pro, right, and then it's

1088
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: a little bit different about that. Yeah, you can mix

1089
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: and match up there, that's true. Yeah, all right, So

1090
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: last thing before we get out of her, because we've

1091
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: been almost we've been at this for almost an hour.

1092
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Yes, I didn't know that being

1093
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: with me and all right, well now, so it's it's

1094
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: May the fourth, that's you know, yes, we started, we started.

1095
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: It is where we started. What is your favorite Star

1096
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: Wars movie? Oh? Wow? That's a toughie. Um. I like

1097
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: them all, you know what I do. I even like

1098
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 1: the you know, from The Phantom Menace to the Clone Wars.

1099
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: I yeah them all. It's a great story. I hope

1100
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: they keep making them. Yeah, yeah, I hope that it

1101
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: never ends as a franchise. I think it's it should

1102
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: have like a national holiday. I think it's that great

1103
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: of a story. But if I had to pick one,

1104
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: if I'm cast away Tom Hanks on an Island and

1105
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: I had one of those Empire strikes back, absolutely, okay, good, Yes, Yes,

1106
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 1: it's one of the best movies of all time, all time. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1107
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: so's a funny story. Maybe I got stuck with the

1108
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace. I wouldn't be too hurt. They just don't

1109
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: give me the second one. At least the third one

1110
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: and Rogue one actually is really good. Then the last

1111
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: two have been awesome. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually I'm looking

1112
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: forward to the Han solo solo movie. Cool, it'll have

1113
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Donald Glover in it and that Ansel Angle hurt guy.

1114
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh man, we can't get through a podcast without you

1115
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: getting fine because your phone is buzzing. Can it's been

1116
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: Look if it's been almost an hour and no one.

1117
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: That's a problem, okay, popular, I'm just saying, all right,

1118
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: before we get out of you know, I do want

1119
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: to tell this story. So, Um, when I was a

1120
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: senior in high school. Um, we had a game on

1121
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: a Saturday because the team we were playing didn't have lights.

1122
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: So the night before, we'd all gotten together and we

1123
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: watched uh Return of the Jedi, so episode six, and

1124
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: so in that, you know, Admiral Akbar goes, it's our trap, right,

1125
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: So it's great. So we had a play. Yeah, so

1126
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: we have a play. It's trap check, right. So we

1127
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: told our quarterback if we run a trap check, and

1128
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: we're like, at some point tomorrow during the game we

1129
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: run a trap check, you need to pull an Admiral Akbar,

1130
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: you gotta say it's our trap. And so we're up

1131
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the game and add us to God.

1132
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: He comes in the huddle and he goes, all right, Blue,

1133
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: it's a trap check on one on one ready break.

1134
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Did you guys bust up? Oh? Yeah, we did. Were

1135
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: you guys at good? Oh? Yeah, we know that year

1136
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: we were eight and two in the season we won

1137
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,479
Speaker 1: that game forty eight to sixteen. Yeah. No, we're blowing

1138
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: him out. That's when it comes in the huddle. It's

1139
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: a it's a trap check. Yeah, oh my god, that

1140
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: just ruined it. The greatest thing about that game was

1141
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: that afterwards my on line coach was like, that is

1142
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: the worst forty eight to sixteen victory I've ever seen.

1143
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: I've had one of those. Don't you love coaches especially?

1144
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: I like like being this age now when I see

1145
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: my old high school coaches, remember when you made us

1146
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: run will be one fifty six or seven? What were

1147
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: you thinking? What did we do? And we just won sixteen? Right? Yeah, goodness, gracious,

1148
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, glory days. Right, yes, all good stuff,

1149
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: all good stuff. All right, well, guys, with that, I

1150
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get you out of here. Um, that

1151
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: has been between the horns. Thank you to my producer, Josh,

1152
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: Thank you DeMarco far May the Fourth be with you,

1153
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: May the Fourth be with you. Always check you out

1154
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: next time.