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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Man, Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,

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Speaker 2: Michael Tellinger back with us author, scientist explore humanitarian who

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Speaker 2: has become a real life Indiana Jones character, making groundbreaking

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Speaker 2: discoveries about advanced spanished civilizations at the tip of Africa

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Speaker 2: and South Africa. He continued analytical science approaches has produced

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Speaker 2: stunning new evidence that will force us to rethink our

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Speaker 2: origins and rewrite our history books. And again, if you

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Speaker 2: have a chance to get up to the Coast to

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Speaker 2: COASTAM dot com website in the highlight reel, take a

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Speaker 2: look at some of the photographs that we're going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about tonight. Michael, welcome back. Have you been.

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Speaker 3: Hello George, very good to hear your voice, my friend,

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Speaker 3: I've been very well.

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Speaker 2: Where are you Are you in Africa these days? Where

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Speaker 2: might you be?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, yes, I've been here. I haven't traveled at

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Speaker 3: all since my last trip to the US, say in

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen when I got married, and then since then

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Speaker 3: the lockdown thing happened, and I haven't been out of

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Speaker 3: South Africa because which you've been so busy with the

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Speaker 3: once More Town initiative. It's really kept me on my toes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about that. Congratulations on the marriage.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks thanks five years now five years on the

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Speaker 3: twenty third of July.

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Speaker 2: Ash Where does time go? Michael?

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Speaker 3: I know sure that it seems like it's speeding up.

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Speaker 3: It really does. I was just sitting this morning thinking,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, we're going to be in August soon.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's really weird. It is a strange phenomenon

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Speaker 3: as get as you get older, the time seems to

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Speaker 3: go faster.

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Speaker 2: It does faster and faster. Let's talk about some of

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Speaker 2: these stone ruins and these lost civilizations, and then I

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Speaker 2: want to talk with you about the Ononnaki as well.

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Speaker 2: There is a series of stone ruins in South Africa

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Speaker 2: that are just true remarkable. How old might they be?

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Speaker 2: The Stone Circle Ruins?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, George, this is yeah, this remains for me one

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Speaker 3: of one of the greatest sort of discoveries I've ever

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Speaker 3: was blessed with stumbling upon and then feeling away layer

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Speaker 3: by layer, the mysteries of the Stone Circle ruins. You know,

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Speaker 3: because this is a big subject, it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: huge subject and potentially one of the most interesting and

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Speaker 3: mysterious chapters of our history on planet Earth, really exposing

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Speaker 3: the hidden history of the world that so many people

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Speaker 3: are starting to become aware of, and how much has

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Speaker 3: been hidden from us for you know, all kinds of reasons,

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Speaker 3: by all kinds of people, by all kinds of entities.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. And and the Stone Circle Ruins of Southern Africa,

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Speaker 3: which is mostly South Africa and Zimbabwe are probably and

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Speaker 3: possibly one of the most important components or ingredients or

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Speaker 3: players in this mystery. And the reason I say that

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Speaker 3: is because it is such a vast network of these

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Speaker 3: stone structures it goggles the mind. So the dating of

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Speaker 3: these structures is a fascinating thing because some of them

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Speaker 3: could be as recent as you know, twelve thousand years

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Speaker 3: or and when I say recent, in many people's minds,

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Speaker 3: that's old. But once you start studying real ancient civilizations,

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Speaker 3: you know, it becomes very clear that these these structures

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Speaker 3: and these ancient civilizations go back hundreds of thousands of years,

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Speaker 3: not just not of thousands or dozens of thousands of years.

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Speaker 3: So some of the stone structures, the stone circle ruins,

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Speaker 3: could be that could be go could go back to

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Speaker 3: just before the Great Flood, and many people have placed

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Speaker 3: the Great flooded around between ten and twelve thousand years,

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Speaker 3: and I suspect that some of these structures are built

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Speaker 3: most of it was wiped out by the flood, and

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Speaker 3: that's why in essence they're so badly damaged. But a

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Speaker 3: lot of the stone circles I have been able to

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Speaker 3: for many years now, since two thousand and seven. You're

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Speaker 3: be Steven Spielberg, you know exactly. So I started to

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Speaker 3: the rivers that come down the mountain. And that's when

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Speaker 3: scientific and geological evidence that the stone circle ruins are

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Speaker 3: the rivers wash them away. So yeah, you make up

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Speaker 3: How long has that river been there? And then we

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Speaker 2: And what happened to the people who made them.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's an obvious question, right, That's the question

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Speaker 3: were farming or growing or what animals they kept all

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Speaker 3: those thousands of years ago. There's actually a very funny story.

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Speaker 3: Go for it. I'll come back to the funny story. Okay,

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Speaker 3: remind me of the funny story about the dwarf cattle,

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Speaker 3: or maybe I'll just make while we add it. So,

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Speaker 3: because of some of these stone structures, we always assume

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Speaker 3: one of the great mysteries that you know, worried archaeologists

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Speaker 3: They didn't take that very important observation to its next

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Speaker 4: Obviously, otherwise that have doors and entrances always passages, all

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Speaker 3: You can't get in and you can't get out. However,

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Speaker 3: many of these structures have been altered and changed by

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Speaker 3: Let's just let's let's make sure we say that, because

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Speaker 3: before the African tribes arrived here, there were no African

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Speaker 3: Koisant people that lived here. We've got evidence of those

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Speaker 3: being here for two hundred and fifty thousand years, living

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Speaker 3: That clearly show us the presence of the bushmen in

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Speaker 3: they converted them into dwellings, and they used them, which

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Speaker 2: How tall are the wells, Michael, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the walls are not that tall. The walls are

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Speaker 3: only like you know, waist heights, a little bit high,

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Speaker 3: But I'm getting to a point here, George, which is

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Speaker 3: That's why I really was leading up to, just to

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Speaker 2: Many of these stone circle ruins are. They're out there.

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Speaker 3: Well that that was a big reveal for me when

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Speaker 3: saying that there were about twenty thousand of these stone

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Speaker 3: South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe. He ended up excavating Great Zimbabwe

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Speaker 3: And he estimated that there were about four and a

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Speaker 3: A thousand, okay, just not not not ten or twenty

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Speaker 3: even if it's five million or even if it's one million,

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Speaker 3: I beg your pardoner, even a thousand, yeah, even a thousand,

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Speaker 3: And then then I realized, and the penny dropped for me,

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Speaker 3: knows about No, there are no two books written about it,

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Speaker 3: to compile my museum, which is you know, people listening

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Speaker 3: to this, I would really like you to think deeply

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Speaker 3: more than a thousand tools and artifacts in it.

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Speaker 2: Is that the one small town.

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Speaker 3: Museum and more scattered around you know that points to

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Speaker 2: Is this what you call the one small town?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is just my Stone Circle museum.

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Speaker 3: It's just my Stone Circle museum.

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Speaker 1: In your in your in.

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Speaker 2: Your opinion, Michael, What are the stone circle ruins used for?

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Speaker 3: What were they used for?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so if they not dwelt things for people animals,

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