WEBVTT - July 18, 1969 / “Hungry Kids Can’t Eat Moon Rocks”

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Days in July is a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and Trade Traft Studios in association with High five Content.

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<v Speaker 1>On May fifth, nineteen sixty one, just four months after

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<v Speaker 1>he assumed the presidency, John F. Kennedy stood before a

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<v Speaker 1>joint session of Congress and said the following, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal

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<v Speaker 1>before this decade is out of landing a man on

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth. No

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<v Speaker 1>single space project in this period will be more impressive

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<v Speaker 1>to mankind or more important for the long range exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of space, and none will be so difficult or expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish. Think about it. Less than three weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>launching the first American into space, a trip that lasted

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<v Speaker 1>only fifteen minutes, the President went before Congress and charged

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<v Speaker 1>the country with landing on the Moon before the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the decade, and why so that we could wallop

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<v Speaker 1>the rush. Recognizing the head stock obtained by the Soviets,

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<v Speaker 1>and recognizing the likelihood that they will exploit this lead

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<v Speaker 1>for some time to come in still more impressive successes,

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<v Speaker 1>we nevertheless or required to make new efforts on our own.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while, we cannot guarantee that we shall one

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<v Speaker 1>day be first. We can guarantee that any failure to

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<v Speaker 1>make this effort will make us lost. Kennedy is inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>and pragmatic. He wants America to go to the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>but he recognizes that the colossal technology, infrastructure, hardware, and

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<v Speaker 1>workforce necessary to make it happen does not exist. America

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<v Speaker 1>would be starting from scratch, and it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be expensive. Let it be clear that I am asking

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<v Speaker 1>the Congress and the country to accept a firm commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to a new course of action, a cost which will

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<v Speaker 1>lost for many years and carry very heavy costs. If

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<v Speaker 1>we ought to go only ah way or reduce our

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<v Speaker 1>sites in the face of difficulty, In my judgment, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be better not to go at all. Apollo would

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<v Speaker 1>be bigger than anything NASA had ever attempted, by several

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<v Speaker 1>orders of magnitude, requiring the most significant commitment of peacetime

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<v Speaker 1>resources and innovation the country had ever seen. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no sense in desiring that the United States take an

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<v Speaker 1>affirmative position in outer space unless we are prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>do the work and bear the burdens to make it successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy is down to brass tax now, and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>above baking. This decision demands a major national commitment of

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<v Speaker 1>scientific and technical manpower, materiel, and facilities, and the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of their diversion from other important activities where they're already

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<v Speaker 1>thinly in spread. In bringing it Home, Kennedy reminds his

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<v Speaker 1>audience of the stakes. Finally, if we are to win

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<v Speaker 1>the battle that is now going on around the world

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<v Speaker 1>between freedom and tyranny, now it is time to take

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<v Speaker 1>longer strides, Time for a great new American enterprise, time

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<v Speaker 1>for this nation to take a clearly leading role in

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<v Speaker 1>space achievement, which in many ways may hold the key

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<v Speaker 1>to our future on Earth, freedom and tyranny. For most Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in retrospect, Apollo was about science, technology, and exploration,

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<v Speaker 1>but not Kennedy. For the President, it was about stopping

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<v Speaker 1>communism before it swallowed the planet whole. The stakes were

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<v Speaker 1>literally saving the free world. But as we will learn

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<v Speaker 1>this hour, there were many more Americans who didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a damn about either of those two motivations, and with

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<v Speaker 1>very good reason. It's July nineteen sixty nine, day three

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<v Speaker 1>of the Apollo eleven mission. This is Apollo control of

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<v Speaker 1>forty six hours twenty eight minutes around the lapse of

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<v Speaker 1>time a little more than a half hour remaining in

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<v Speaker 1>the crew sleep period. Members of the Green team of

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<v Speaker 1>flight controllers, headed up by Prime Flight Director Cliff charles Worth,

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<v Speaker 1>are coming into the control room at this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that each console handover is taking place from the black watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever stopped to consider the gargantuan undertaking that

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<v Speaker 1>the Apollo project represented. Pulling off Kennedy's audacious vision required

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of people, tens of thousands of companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and tens of billions of dollars on paper, There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that Apollo should have worked. It should have been

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<v Speaker 1>too big, too unwieldy, too time consuming, and too expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet, against all odds, in spite of tragic accidents,

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<v Speaker 1>political hatchet jobs, and public protests, the United States pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it off. But before we look into the army that

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<v Speaker 1>was required to get Apollo off the ground, let's listen

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<v Speaker 1>in as Bruce McCandless in Mission Control rouses our crew

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<v Speaker 1>at morning hands. You're a great day, pride night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we very quiet night down air. I've got the morning

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<v Speaker 1>news here if you're interested over Yeah, already copy and

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<v Speaker 1>comment already there uh Roder buzzes pointing out that if

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<v Speaker 1>it's too thirty in the afternoon in Houston, this can't

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<v Speaker 1>be called the morning news from St. Petersburg, Florida. Come

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<v Speaker 1>to the radio report from a Narrowagian explorers or hired

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<v Speaker 1>Doll which in the crew of his p pirates boat

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<v Speaker 1>or well they'll end a break down Barbados and bite

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<v Speaker 1>damage from heavy seas. Thor hired All was a Norwegian

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<v Speaker 1>explorer who wanted to prove that ancient peoples were capable

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<v Speaker 1>of making epics, sea voyages and contacting far flung cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>He constructed a boat made from papyrus, just like the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Egyptians did, and attempted to cross the Atlantic Ocean. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the raw would sink before reaching its destination. Thankfully, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire crew was rescued and a year from now Thor

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<v Speaker 1>will build Raw too and successfully complete the journey from

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<v Speaker 1>Morocco to Barbados, a fitting terrestrial echo to Apollo Levin's

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary stellar journey. And in Corby, England and Irish wind

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<v Speaker 1>John Coyle has won the World urried Gating Championship by

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<v Speaker 1>consuming twenty three bowls events, and not meal in a

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<v Speaker 1>ten minute time limits from a field of thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>other competitors over I like Dianna and Time. Pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>at that. He's, as you may have already guessed, Mission

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<v Speaker 1>Control is curating the news, choosing only stories designed to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a smile to the faces of three astronauts racing

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<v Speaker 1>far away from everything and everyone they love. But the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is all is not well back home. Spanning Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>eleven's nine day mission, the streets of York, Pennsylvania, will

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<v Speaker 1>become the site of a race war after a seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>year old African American boy is shot by a white

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<v Speaker 1>gang looking to stir up trouble. Soon, black and white

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<v Speaker 1>mobs clash violently across the city. The next day, three

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<v Speaker 1>police officers will be shot, and one, the two year

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<v Speaker 1>old rookie who's only been on the force for ten months,

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<v Speaker 1>will be killed. The mayor will declare a state of

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<v Speaker 1>emergency and flood the streets with state troopers to begin

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<v Speaker 1>restoring order, or so he thinks. Angry at the death

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<v Speaker 1>of one of their own, the city police officers will

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<v Speaker 1>begin telling white gangs they need to protect their homes

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<v Speaker 1>and shoot any blacks they come across. Local cops even

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<v Speaker 1>pass out ammunition. One of those bullets may have killed

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty seven year old black woman and mother of

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<v Speaker 1>two from South Carolina who is visiting her sister when

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<v Speaker 1>the violence begins consuming the city. She and her family

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<v Speaker 1>are returning from a fishing trip when barricaded streets forced

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<v Speaker 1>them to drive through a white neighborhood, where several men

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<v Speaker 1>opened fire in the car, hitting her in the chest

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<v Speaker 1>and killing her. Why don't I bring this up? As

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<v Speaker 1>the sun sets? In the nineteen sixties, race relations threatened

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<v Speaker 1>to tear this country apart, and the systemic suppression of

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<v Speaker 1>African Americans even intersects profoundly with the Apollo eleven mission.

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<v Speaker 1>As we will learn today, the country about to land

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<v Speaker 1>on the Moon seems incapable of solving its most fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>problems back home. As the political turmoil at home rages

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<v Speaker 1>on and our boys continue their trek toward the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a look at how NASA made the impossible possible.

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<v Speaker 1>The Apollo program dwarfs any other engineering project ever undertaken

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<v Speaker 1>by humanity. Previous ventures like the Manhattan Project and the

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<v Speaker 1>construction of the Panama Canal pale in comparison. I'm Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Berry and I'm the NASA chief historian. So over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the nineteen sixties, the official numbers billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixties money. That's a huge amount of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and four hunds of thousand people worked on the project,

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty thousand different U S companies across the unitsates

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<v Speaker 1>were subcontractors are in some way, shape or form. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one, the year Kennedy kicked Apollo off, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>spent about one million dollars on the program. Just five

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<v Speaker 1>years later, it was spending roughly the same amount every

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<v Speaker 1>three hours. NASA slice of the federal budget at the

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<v Speaker 1>time was about five point five If the national budget

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<v Speaker 1>were a dollar, NASA was consuming more than a nickel.

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<v Speaker 1>Adjusted for two thousand and nineteen, the Apollo program costs

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and eighty eight billion dollars. Only the Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>War was more expensive. At the time of Kennedy's charge,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA was just eight thousand employees scattered around a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of small facilities, but Apolloscope made them instantly obsolete. NASA

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<v Speaker 1>needed a lot more people and a lot more space.

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<v Speaker 1>The first priority was a command center from which to

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<v Speaker 1>run the entire program. It really need a much larger facility,

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<v Speaker 1>and the decisions made located in Houston. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>birth of the Johnson Space Flight Center. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the facility was known as the Manned Space Fight Center.

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<v Speaker 1>This was to be the home of mission control and

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<v Speaker 1>space flight missions to the Moon and perhaps the planets

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<v Speaker 1>will be commanded from this control room of the Mission

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<v Speaker 1>Control Center at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center, twenty two miles

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<v Speaker 1>southeast of Houston, Texas. It was built on six acres

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<v Speaker 1>of cattle grazing land donated by Rice University, the same

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<v Speaker 1>Rice University where Kennedy uttered these famous words, Great, here's

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the moon and this detained and do

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing, not because they are easy, but because

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<v Speaker 1>they are hard. Next up was a place to launch

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<v Speaker 1>the rockets from. People have been using the Cape Canaveral

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force Station down there on the coast of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>But they realized that for you, for quality're going to

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<v Speaker 1>need much bigger facility. So the Kennedy Space Center. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Kennedy Space Center is built next to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cape Canaveral, a huge facility of its own, One of

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<v Speaker 1>dasa's major installations devoted to achieving the goals of the

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<v Speaker 1>nation's space programs is the John F. Kennedy Space Center

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<v Speaker 1>Launch Site, or the Apollo Saturn five. It would not

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<v Speaker 1>be named the Kennedy Space Center until after the President's death.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, it is the Launch Operations Center. To

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<v Speaker 1>give you some context of just how much bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>more powerful the Saturn was going to be than anything

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<v Speaker 1>that came before it. The launch escape system that sat

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<v Speaker 1>on the very top of the Saturn five to yank

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<v Speaker 1>the command module free in an emergency was more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>than the entire Mercury Redstone that launched the first American

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<v Speaker 1>into outer space. The abort signaled figures separation of the

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<v Speaker 1>module from the launch vehicle. Simultaneously, the launch escape motor

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<v Speaker 1>and pitch control motor ignite, accelerating the command module away

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<v Speaker 1>from the launch vehicle. NASA also needed a place to

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<v Speaker 1>build the Saturn five. They decided to build a test

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<v Speaker 1>facility in the middle of the swamps on the south

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<v Speaker 1>coast Marshall Space Flight Center. Why in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a swamp, building and testing rockets tends to be well noisy,

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<v Speaker 1>So NASSI goes from being um sleepy eight thousand or

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<v Speaker 1>so of personal organization there ultimately small leg and grows

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<v Speaker 1>over fourfold. By the mid sixties, you've got over thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand employees working for NASA, and all these multiple facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>all brand spanking new that are all built all across

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<v Speaker 1>the South and the United States. As these various centers

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<v Speaker 1>were being built, NASA turned its attention to even more

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental problems. Exactly how is America going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. The problem is really quite simple, find the

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<v Speaker 1>best path to get from point A two point B.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course this is a great over simplification. There

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<v Speaker 1>are three options. Direct descent, where you take a big rocket,

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<v Speaker 1>launch it to the Moon, the whole thing lands in

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon, and the whole thing goes back again. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the model made popular by classic sci fi films

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<v Speaker 1>of the eighteen fifties, when the moon monsters, under the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of writting, ruthless Dictator of the Moon, scheme to

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<v Speaker 1>invade the Earth and have your rank un set up

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<v Speaker 1>ready to blast them. This time you must not fail.

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<v Speaker 1>And they decided, well, there's another alternative, where we could

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<v Speaker 1>build a spaceship in Earth orbit. We launched pieces of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't have to build such a big rocket

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth. So that's Earth orbit rendevou Verni von Braun,

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<v Speaker 1>the x Nazi rocket scientists who designed the Saturn five,

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<v Speaker 1>preferred this option. A voyage around the Moon must be

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<v Speaker 1>made in two phases. A rocket ship taking off from

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<v Speaker 1>the surface. We'll use almost all the fuel that can

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<v Speaker 1>carry just to attain a speed great enough to balance

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<v Speaker 1>the pool of gravity. However, if we can refuel the

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<v Speaker 1>ship in this orbit with fuel brought up by cargo

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<v Speaker 1>rocket chips, it can set out on the second phase,

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<v Speaker 1>the trip around the Moon and back. And there's this

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<v Speaker 1>other idea that they're called lunar orbit rendevout, where you

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<v Speaker 1>build a rocket, sent it to the Moon and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a big cruise ship. It pulls into the harbor

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<v Speaker 1>and then the passengers get off on a smaller dinghy

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<v Speaker 1>and run into the shore to go to their visits

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back out again. The problem was known

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<v Speaker 1>at NASA liked this last idea well, almost no one.

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<v Speaker 1>John Hubalt was convinced that lunar orbit rendezvous was the

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<v Speaker 1>only way NASA would successfully meet Kennedy's vision. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>of using l O R lunar Orbert rendezvous as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to go into the Moon appealed to me tremendously.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew, however, that it would meet with much opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>People in fact, would probably think I was crazy. Who

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<v Speaker 1>about This is a really interesting character. He's was an

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<v Speaker 1>engineer at Langley Research Center where they were looking at

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<v Speaker 1>questions about orbital mechanics. Hubbolt sort of grabbed this idea. Mathematically,

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<v Speaker 1>this makes the most sense, and he basically championed that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason known at NASA like who Bolt's option is

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<v Speaker 1>because it required the astronauts to dock their spacecraft two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand miles away. Remember this is half

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<v Speaker 1>a decade before Project Gemini proved it was even possible

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<v Speaker 1>in Earth orbit. So this terrified NASA's engineers, and so

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<v Speaker 1>who Bolt was sidelined. He may not have been high

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<v Speaker 1>ranking or well connected, but he was tenacious, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he jumped the NASA chain of command. They really put

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<v Speaker 1>his career on the line by being a real pest

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, going over people's head, sending letters

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<v Speaker 1>to Dept Administrator NASA and other things that you know

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<v Speaker 1>could have gotten fired. Who Will argued that for direct

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<v Speaker 1>descent to work, they need a rocket even larger and

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive than the proposed SATURD five and Earth orbit

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<v Speaker 1>rendezvous required multiple launches. But he kept at it, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually pounding away at it. You know, people realize, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe that's winder with thing around the moon

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<v Speaker 1>isn't so bad, And look at the math on this,

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<v Speaker 1>we can actually do with missing one Saturn five launch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it. Eventually it wins out, and hop Will

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<v Speaker 1>becomes sort of the hero in the story, largely because

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<v Speaker 1>he was smart enough to do it and brave enough

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<v Speaker 1>to take on the powers that be to push the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The accomplishment of lunar orbit rendezvous is a vital portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the Apollo lunar landing missions. The next question was

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<v Speaker 1>what would these spacecraft look like and who would build them.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting a very good view of the work going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the come out on Service module tunnel preparation for

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<v Speaker 1>the dress people Uner module. But first let's check in

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<v Speaker 1>with Apollo eleven, currently one and seventy five thousand nautical

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<v Speaker 1>miles away from Earth, where the astronauts are preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>open up the lunar module for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're filming the whole thing and beaming it back to

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Duke in mission control. We're really getting great a

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<v Speaker 1>drug remment coming back. Once removal of the drogue is completed,

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<v Speaker 1>they will have access to the lam hatch and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go into the tunnel. The drogue is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the mechanism used to dock the two spacecraft to

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<v Speaker 1>enter the lunar module. Neil must first remove the drogue

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<v Speaker 1>as it blocks the narrow tunnel connecting the two ships.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked like it's pretty crowded in there with that grove

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<v Speaker 1>over alright, dv Cale will get in a way. One

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<v Speaker 1>guess who the guy making the jokes is, of course

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<v Speaker 1>as Michael Collins. If it sounds like I've been making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of Michael Collins, think again, in a very real way.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the most accessible of our crew. Neil and

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<v Speaker 1>Buzz are always so straight laced. Both were described in

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<v Speaker 1>their day as squares. Michael is much more well down

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<v Speaker 1>to earth bare. He didn't really have a hanging card there.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't really complain things like I had. They were

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<v Speaker 1>about to open the hand now, but we don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anything up there. Well, greas good, This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that anyone other than the technicians who built her

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<v Speaker 1>has climbed inside the lemb During the Apollo mission, this vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lunar Module, will take two men and their scientific

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<v Speaker 1>instruments to the surface of the Moon. While there, it

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<v Speaker 1>will serve as command post and communications center, and when

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts finished their exploration, it will take them back

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<v Speaker 1>to the orbiting command module for the return trip to Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>In late July of nineteen sixty two, NASA invited nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen companies to bid on the Lunar Module design.

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<v Speaker 1>The winning concept came from the aircraft manufacturer, the Grumman Corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the guys who built the F nine Panther

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<v Speaker 1>that Neil flew in Korea. Later, they designed the most

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful American fighter jet to ever take to the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteen Tomcat. I'm standing on the floor of plant

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<v Speaker 1>number five at the Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation in Best Page,

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<v Speaker 1>New York. The Lunar Modules, or lambs for short, were designed, assembled,

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<v Speaker 1>and tested at Grumman's Long Island facility in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Lisa was a Grumman environmental test engineer. When I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the interview to Grummin. They said, James, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be working on the LAMB. I go, Lamb, you're

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<v Speaker 1>kidding So now I said, oh my gosh, I was

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<v Speaker 1>through the day one. None of the engineers at Grumman

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<v Speaker 1>had ever built anything like the LAMB before. No one had.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lamb was for use on the Moon. It would

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<v Speaker 1>never taste Earth's atmosphere. It would live and die in

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<v Speaker 1>the vacuum of space. As such, unlike its gum drop

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<v Speaker 1>shaped sibling, the Command Module, the Limb did need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aerodynamic. Once you get two D fifty miles away,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no atmosphere it obviously, it doesn't have to be sleek,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to look Because of that, it would never

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<v Speaker 1>be described as beautiful. Instead of smooth, sleek sides, it

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<v Speaker 1>was functional, bristling with sharp edges, antennas, weird bulges, and

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<v Speaker 1>clusters of thrusters. Appropriately enough, it looked like something alien.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing has a face, eyes, nose, even a mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a spider, it was. The Lamb evolved a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>First it was roughly capsule shaped. Still later it resembled

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<v Speaker 1>a helicopter cockpit with large curved windows. Then someone got

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<v Speaker 1>out of calculator and added up how much it would weigh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the end of that. The lamb had

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<v Speaker 1>to be liked or else it would never get off

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<v Speaker 1>the moon. Grumman's engineers soon became obsessed with taking weight off.

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<v Speaker 1>The single massive window was ditched and in its place

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<v Speaker 1>two small triangular shaped windows were substituted. Glasses heavy. Five

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<v Speaker 1>landing legs offered the best possible stability, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>one too many. Now it was only four. At one

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<v Speaker 1>point in time on the lemb they actually had seats,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, now get these things out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Grumman proposed having the astronauts climb out of the vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>by using a rope ladder, or even at one point

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<v Speaker 1>repelled down the side via a rope. Ultimately they compromised

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<v Speaker 1>on an aluminum ladder. Throughout the different phases of its

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<v Speaker 1>design and construction, Grumman built full sized wooden mock ups

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<v Speaker 1>for the NASA personnel to tour, equipment to be test fitted,

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<v Speaker 1>and even space suited astronauts to try out. Buzz and

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<v Speaker 1>Leo had put it on the backpack, and what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was when they tried to get through the round opening,

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<v Speaker 1>it was beaten the heckhead of the backpack, so it

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<v Speaker 1>instantly was a redesign. I mean it was like, stop everything,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing has to become rec dangular. The limb has

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<v Speaker 1>two sections, the ascent stage from which the astronauts operated

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<v Speaker 1>the craft, and the decent stage, with its spider legs

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<v Speaker 1>and compartments for all of their equipment. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>bit that gets left on the Moon. The engine on

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<v Speaker 1>the decent stage is the most sophisticated ever designed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>powerful enough to get the lemb down to the lunar surface,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can also allow the lemb to hover like

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<v Speaker 1>a helicopter while the astronauts choose a suitable landing spot.

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<v Speaker 1>All that gold foil wrapped around the descent stage is

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<v Speaker 1>milar insulation. It reflects hot sunlight away from the sensitive equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Beneath the foil is the craft's metal hull. At some places,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the thickness of only three inches of kitchen aluminum foil,

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<v Speaker 1>but once pressurized, it was remarkably strong. Think about it

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a soda can. After you've finished your soda.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fairly easy to pierce the side of its aluminum skin,

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<v Speaker 1>but it takes a lot more work to do, so

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<v Speaker 1>when the contents are under pressure, it's the same idea here.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the lemb was pressurized in the vacuum of space,

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<v Speaker 1>it was much stronger than how it was back in

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<v Speaker 1>Grumman's labs, where a misplaced foot or a fallen screw

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<v Speaker 1>driver could have easily punctured the hull. Never in history

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<v Speaker 1>had a flying machine gone into service without a comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>test fight. But when it came to landing on the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no other way to do it, which meant

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike and his team had their work cut out

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<v Speaker 1>for them. It was their job to stress test every

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<v Speaker 1>individual part that went into the lamb, not once, but

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of times. I need you to picture a huge speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>a regular ordinary speaker, except that the speaker is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be about fifteen ft in diameter. Mike's vibration machines

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<v Speaker 1>are basically speakers. They would mount the lamb on top

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<v Speaker 1>of these shakers to simulate the vibrations experience during takeoff

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other phases of the mission. It was

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<v Speaker 1>shaking the lamb to the point where it was they

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<v Speaker 1>would fall apart. I mean, we had actually introduced so

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<v Speaker 1>many g forces that we wouldnock things off and m

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<v Speaker 1>just to see if we can break it. We had

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that the best thing was going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the bone and back to Earth in one piece.

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<v Speaker 1>On another test, they rotated the lamb upside down and

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<v Speaker 1>shook it to see if anything would come off, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>MD hold outcomes are nut a plane ordinary nut. It

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ground on and the Nasser inspector was there

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<v Speaker 1>and he pulled the plug on us. He stopped us

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<v Speaker 1>for an entire week, and all of those units had

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<v Speaker 1>to be inspected to a point where you wouldn't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and his colleagues were obsessed with ensuring that everything

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<v Speaker 1>they touched was perfect. Three folks life depending on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to be flawless. The importance that would

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<v Speaker 1>leaned on everybody's mind was the safety of bringing these

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<v Speaker 1>guys out and hitting them back. It wasn't an easy job.

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<v Speaker 1>We were twelve hours a day here, sixty five days.

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<v Speaker 1>He would never stopped. I remember taking a week off

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<v Speaker 1>of my own, remember that. Other than that, no vacations, no, no, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't wait to get to work. I knew this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a big thing in all life

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. To be a part of that history is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely incredible. I really loved doing that work. Mike was

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<v Speaker 1>a new father when he watched the landing from the

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<v Speaker 1>living room of his house, the same house in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>where he lives today. I was sitting right here on

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<v Speaker 1>this look with my black night television, the little baby

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs crying, and uh. When I finally swear after they

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ground, I couldn't believe it. I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I had goose poems that you almost get a tear

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. It was starting. It was incredible to

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<v Speaker 1>see all all were finally coming to fruition. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Today Mike volunteers his time at the Cradle of Aviation

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<v Speaker 1>Museum in Garden City as a docent, talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>about the lamb he helped build. Now that Neil and

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<v Speaker 1>Buzz have opened her up, let's take a look inside,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. As you can see, there is not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of space in here, just room enough for two

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<v Speaker 1>men to stand side by side. They each have a

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<v Speaker 1>window angled down towards the ground. In the front there

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<v Speaker 1>you can see joysticks, altimeters, a bunch of knobs, switches

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<v Speaker 1>and circuit breakers. The hatch to get out to the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon is below these consoles just here at their feet,

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<v Speaker 1>and that whole directly above your head. That's the hatch

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<v Speaker 1>connecting the lamb to the command module. The lunar module

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<v Speaker 1>trammed with instrumentation, communications, equipment, and propulsion, all needed for

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<v Speaker 1>the important job of jetting two men down to and

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<v Speaker 1>away from the surface of the Moon. In all, it

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<v Speaker 1>took an estimated nine thousand engineers and two point four

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars to design and build the lunar module. That's

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<v Speaker 1>billion with a B. There are many at this time

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<v Speaker 1>of history who felt that that money could have been

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<v Speaker 1>better spent. America was losing about fifty men every day

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<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam, some of the country's most inspiring leaders were

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<v Speaker 1>being felled by assassin's bullets. Campus protests and street riots

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<v Speaker 1>were breaking out across the country, and according to the

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<v Speaker 1>US Census, of African Americans were living in poverty. In

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<v Speaker 1>an era of intense racial discrimination, African Americans found themselves

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<v Speaker 1>trapped between America's technological abilities and its social injustice. America,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed, would rather spend hundreds of billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on war and petty political one upmanship than actually improving

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the lives of its citizens. The plight of African Americans

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>at this time inspired Gil Scott Heron depend these words

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in the song Whitey on the Moon. I can't pay

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>no doctor bills, but White he's on the moon. Ten

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>years from now, I'll be paying still while white is

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.199
<v Speaker 1>on the moon. You know the man just off my

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>rent last night, because why it is on the moon.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>No hot water, no toilets, no lights, but White he's

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>on the moon. Lelon, we haven't good to be to

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the window there. It looks like the turns farrently coming

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>through there. We're back in the level. Kneel and Buzz

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>have the camera with them and they're showing the world

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>what it looks like inside. Now, let me tell you

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking the other way, Buzz turns the camera around,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>shooting back into the command module. That's a great good

0:26:55.960 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>right there. That's Neil and mind better bigger line. Remember

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>when Mike Lisa mentioned that they'd yanked the lemb seats

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to save on weight, Well, they swapped them out with

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>tethered restraints so that Neil and Buzz didn't float around

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>inside the spacecraft. Buzz decides to try them on early,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but without being in his bulky pressure suit, they don't

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>quite have the same effect. Restraints in here do a

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty good job of pulling my bands down. We haven't

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>quite got that before the fifty million TV audience yet, careful, Buzz,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a family show having that th real good

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>camera work, probably the most unusual provision of cameraman's ever

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>head hanging from a tunnel. One thing in a picture

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 1>up down leven. You got a pretty big audience. It's

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>live in the US, it's going live to Japan, Western

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Europe and much of South America. Appreciate the great skill.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Hello there, poor Michael, he's feeling left out. Meanwhile, Buzz

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>is fantasizing about pushing off from one end of the

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>lamb and sailing all the way through to the other

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>side of the command module, a travert from the bottom

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of them to the bulk of the command Model's interesting

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>to not apply to putting off from one and founding

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>on into the other vehicle all the way through the tunnel.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>But comperiance, if Colin is gonna go in and look around,

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>we're willing to let it go. Come up with the

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>price of the ticket again. But to advice invocate the

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>man's off. This twitches well, buzzing. Neil are busy in

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the lem. Let's check out Michael's domain. The command module,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>after all, this is where the lions share of our

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>podcast takes place. Cockpit, crew, quarters, command center. When America's

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>three astronauts travel to the Moon, they'll use the Apollo

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Command module for all these things. And of the three

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>modules that make up the spacecraft, this is the only

0:28:55.440 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>one that will come back. The commanded service modules were

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>built by North American Aviation. This is the company that

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>built the P fifty one Mustang, one of the most

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>extraordinary planes to come out of World War Two, Buzzes

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>F eight six Saber, and Niel's X fifteen rocket plane.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, these guys know a thing or two about

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>building extraordinary machines. Chuck Lowry was working for North American

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Aviation in Columbus, Ohio, designing airplanes when he was given

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to begin working on a new program that

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>NASA was calling Apollo. I was invited to move from Columbus,

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Ohio to California to be in charge of the landing system.

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>The parachute jumped at the chance to do that. Not

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>many people in the early sixties believed a moon landing

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>was even possible. Chuck remembers being at church one night

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>shortly before they made the move to California. There was

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a leader speaking to a group of people, and he

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>said something like a crazy government. Now they say we're

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>going to go to the moon. Go, I don't put

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>people at How many of you really believe that we're

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna put people on the moon? Of course, I raised

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>my hand, and I looked around, and my hand was

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the only one up. And I looked over my wife

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to me and heard him was not a

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>So at that point, not many people in the population

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>really believe we were going to do that. I did.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Chuck and his colleagues put in a lot of ours.

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>We had so many heart attacks, so many divorces among

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the workers, and it was a hard job,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>but it was a thrilling job, and I don't regret

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a minute of it. All Right, listener, why don't you

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>sit here in the center seat. This is Michael seat.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>It's going to give you the best view. Almost every

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>inch of the interior wall space is filled with switches, dials,

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and gauges. Some are similar to those found in modern

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>jet planes, but others are new designed for the require

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>moments of spaceflight. That's seven foot wide, three foot tall,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>crescent shaped panel directly in front of you is divided

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>into three sections, one for each of the astronauts. On

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the left is the panel for Neil, the mission commander.

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>He has the primary flight controls, which govern things like

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the command modules, altitude, velocity, and attitude. The center panel

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is the Command Module Pilots. Michael controls the guidance and

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>navigation computer, propulsion, the environmental system, and thruster controls. On

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the right is the Lunar Module pilots panel. This isn't

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Buzzes ship, but since he's going to be in that

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>seat for roughly eight of the nine days, he gets

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to cover electricity, battery, fuel cells, and calms. In all,

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>there are five hundred and fifty six switches in the

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>command module and twenty four separate instruments, So yeah, this

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>is one complicated spacecraft. Then when you want to move around,

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you can stow a couch and you can go down below.

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>There's a lower equipment by which, of course a lot

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of storage lockers. There are six equipment bays and all

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they house everything from guidance and navigation equipment, medical supplies,

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>survival gear of food, locker, drinking water, a waste management system,

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>close tools, cameras, fire stingishers, and a dozen other mission

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>critical supplies. Now, if you look up, you see the tunnels,

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>which is what you used to go up and exit

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the command module and go into the lunar module. The

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>command module has five small windows, two at eye level

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>for buzz and Neil, two forward facing ones that are

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>used primarily for rendezvous and docking, and a fifth on

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the hatch directly above you. You see those little black

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>squares all over the walls. That's velcro in zero G

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>where things tend to float away. It's really nice to

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>have something to stick things to. Everything from your checklists too,

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>small tools, and even your food pouches. If all of

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>this sounds cramped, it is. The Command module is just

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>over ten and a half feet in height with a

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>diameter of just under thirteen feet, barely over two hundred

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.239
<v Speaker 1>square feet in volume. The mid seat used by the

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>pilot of the Command Module can be folded back to

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>provide working space and give the crew a chance to stretch. Luckily,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the couches the guys sit in can not only be

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>reconfigured for sleep, but the center one, the one you're in,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>can be completely broken down to allow them to stretch out,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>as well as access the telescope and the sextant. Despite

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>all of the technological wizardry aboard the command Module, some

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of the astronauts equipment is relatively unchanged. In two hundred years,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>mariners aboard eighteenth century sailing ships use sextants to chart

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>their course using the stars. The astronauts on Apollo eleven

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>us theirs to do exactly the same thing. In eighteen

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, the French novelist Jules Verne, one of the

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>founding fathers of science fiction, wrote From Earth to the Moon.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>In it, a group of post Civil War engineers build

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a giant cannon in well where else, Florida. With that cannon,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they shoot a giant bullet shaped projectile, carrying three people

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to the moon helperically. Awesome is that the engineer's in

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>vern story named the Canon columbiad Neil Buzzing Michael have

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>dubbed this command module Columbia in its honor. The first

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>time I had butterflies in my stomach because of apprehension

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>about systems working. Was Apollo seven because that was the

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>first man flight. A lot riding on that flight. The

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>whole program was writing and lives We're writing on that flight,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and by the time we got to Apollo eleven um

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty rude tinae. But that sort of confidence

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>comes only after years of success and hard work. Chuck

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>would go on to work on every Apollo mission, and

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>even today is a consultant on the Orion spacecraft, which

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>will be taking astronauts back to the Moon in a

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I'm immensely proud in the fact that

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I worked on Apollo from the first to the last,

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the success of it, what it really meant to this nation,

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>what it meant to the world, And the further I

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>go in life, the more product I can live in

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all The total cost for developing and building Apollo's command

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and service modules was three point eight billion dollars. That

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of money. Between the lunar module and

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the command module, taxpayers shelled out around six point two

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. That's sixty two and a half billion in

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 1>today's dollars, and it is worth asking was it worth it?

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Many people today bemoan the lack of public support for

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>space exploration. They point back to the halcyon days of

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the Apollo program, when everyone was rooting for NASA and

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>support for the moon landing was universal, except those days

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>never existed. Sure, fifty years later, the Apollo program is

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>regarded as an unqualified success, but that's not how it

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was viewed at the time. In fact, the majority of

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>scientists felt that NASA was moving with reckless speed and

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that the money and minds going towards space meant that

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 1>other critical scientific pursuits were being sidelined, and the public agreed.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 1>NASA's Bill Berry and polls throughout the nights sixties when

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>people ask the question is it a priority to you

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it should we be be spending money on sending humans to

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the moon? That pole question never got above support except

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>for one week in the nineteen sixties and hours the

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>week we landed on the Moon. Um So generally speaking,

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a majority you know, of Americans, uh, you know, we're

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not in favor of a major moon landing program. Back

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on Apollo eleven, exactly two days and nine hours from

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>their launch, the guys are wrapping up their television broadcast.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>The consensus is that the Earth appears much smaller today.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It appears now that we have a view of Earth

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>out the window land. If that's not the Earth, we're

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in trouble and differing after day and to day, and

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that large and image every continuing. If I get a

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>big Thankley Paller here and now hundred seventy deeven thousand

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>miles out over, and I'd like to say I fellow

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>got from Cator that Farragut State Park in Idaho in

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the night called gamboree there this week and up all

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>eleven like to send the best ways. That was Neil

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>other than Apollo fifteens, Jim Irwin, every single one of

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the Apollo moonwalkers were boy Scouts, and Neil and Charlie Duke,

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the two people chatting here, achieved the rank of Eagle Scout.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And we're going to turn our V monitor off our

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 1>short bit while we have some other work to do.

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>A follow eleven find off right here, Levin, thank you

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>very much that with one of the greatest goals we've

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>ever seen, was here appreciated over in all. Their TV

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>transmission lasted just over an hour and a half, and

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>in that time they've traveled more than two thousand miles.

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Now it's time to get back to work, transferring equipment

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna need on the Moon from the command module

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to the lunar module. As Neil and Buzz work, astronaut

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Owen Garrett has commandeered the Capcom microphone to let Neil

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>know that Mission Control is enjoying a little snack levin

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Youth and a little informaking to you their CD are.

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>We've all taken a momentary brief respite from our work

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>here to have a biden special Moon cheese that has

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>understanded been sent to it directly from Wappa, Connectica. Wow,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>your own hometown. However, we can't pronounce the eather. I

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>think you'll enjoy that. Make up a fine branded cheese

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>roger there, and I'll police up the grammar for the

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 1>next chef. And a little less than three hours will

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>pass a milestone of sorts as the spacecraft passes into

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the lunar sphere of influence. At that point, the spacecraft

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>will be under the dominant influence of the Moon's gravity.

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Neil and Buzz finished their work and seal at the limb.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>The mood inside the spacecraft is casual and stress free.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>The late workload is allowing the astronauts to relax, and

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>they begin entertaining themselves with the music. The intermittent music

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that we're getting is apparently coming from the spacecraft. Eleven

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>hit than we wanted his own horn. Yeah, we did.

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Had a little music there that was good. You can

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>keep it coming down lever. Mission control wishes the crew

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>a good night. They assume they won't be hearing from

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 1>the astronauts again until the morning, and for ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so the radio falls silent, and then go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven over. You have any idea where the for

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<v Speaker 1>a year for refector sem I. Neil is referring to

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<v Speaker 1>the third stage of the Saturn five that, as you'll

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<v Speaker 1>remember from our last episode, was nudged a safe distance

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<v Speaker 1>away from the crew and is now following them to

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. As they were settling in for the night,

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<v Speaker 1>Neil saw a flashing light out one of the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a phoe? Neil suspects it may be the

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<v Speaker 1>third stage of the Saturn rocket. Paul eleven Houston be

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<v Speaker 1>at four Bees, about six thousand nautical miles from you

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<v Speaker 1>now over, Okay, so it's not the third stage given

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<v Speaker 1>the distance between the two, it's highly unlikely the crew

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<v Speaker 1>could make out what's left of the Saturn. So just

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<v Speaker 1>what is this UFO? Well, to this day, the object

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<v Speaker 1>they saw has never been identified. However, before the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theorists and our audience get too excited, it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly one of the four panels that protected the lunar

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<v Speaker 1>module during launch, and we're jettisoned yesterday right before its extraction.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though those panels don't have their own propulsion source,

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<v Speaker 1>they were already whizzing to the Moon at more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four thousand miles an hour and are going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do so until an equal or opposite force

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<v Speaker 1>acts upon them. Yeah, we got to the Moon using

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<v Speaker 1>the discoveries of a guy who wore a wig and

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<v Speaker 1>died in seventeen Thanks Isaac Newton. On July, the day

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<v Speaker 1>before Apaul eleven lifted off, a group of five protesters

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<v Speaker 1>set up camp outside the gates of the Kennedy Space Center.

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<v Speaker 1>They were led by Reverend Ralph Abernathy. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>man who created Martin Luther King Jr's body in his

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<v Speaker 1>arms as the civil rights icon died on a motel

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<v Speaker 1>balcony in Memphis, Tennessee NASA's Bill Berry so a great extent.

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<v Speaker 1>After Reverend King was assassinated, Abernathy sort of assumed the

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<v Speaker 1>mantle of leadership of the civil rights movement. Abanathi was

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<v Speaker 1>very smart about the training issues that he was concerned about,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the fact that there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people living in poverty in the United States at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Abernathy and his protesters were hoping to bring attention to

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<v Speaker 1>their cause by going to the one place guaranteed to

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<v Speaker 1>have the majority of the nation's news cameras. NASA administrator

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Paine said, Okay, we're gonna ignore these guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out in with Reverdath Abernathy, and so there

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<v Speaker 1>was a meeting. Um and Paine agreed that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were significant problems in America and that they should

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<v Speaker 1>be addressed. Surrounded by protesters singing we shall overcome and

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<v Speaker 1>holding signs reading hungry Kids Can't eat Moon rocks, Abernathy

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<v Speaker 1>and Payne spoke for about twenty minutes. Abernathy asserted that

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<v Speaker 1>money for space fight was a misplaced priority. We may

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<v Speaker 1>go on from this day into Mars, into Jupiter, and

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<v Speaker 1>even to the heavens beyond. But as long as racism, poverty,

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<v Speaker 1>and hunger and war prevail on the Earth, we as

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<v Speaker 1>a civilized nation have failed. Pain agreed. Everybody also pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that from his perspective that you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to the moon wasn't going to solve those problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact he actually said, you know, if me

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<v Speaker 1>not turning to switch the launch to our to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the moon could solve these problems, I would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You would cancel amission. But it's not. Pain told Abernathy

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know what NASA could do in the short

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<v Speaker 1>term to combat poverty, but that the Moonshot was an

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<v Speaker 1>example of what human beings were capable of achieving if

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<v Speaker 1>they threw themselves behind a worthwhile cause. He wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights leader to see Apollo as just the thing

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<v Speaker 1>to spur the nation to tackling other giant problems and

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<v Speaker 1>to use its success as a yardstick to measure what

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<v Speaker 1>was possible. And you very smartly, asked the Reverend Aberna,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if he had prayed for the ct to

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<v Speaker 1>the astronauts, and then he invited at and a significant

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<v Speaker 1>part of the group of people that were there for

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<v Speaker 1>the march to come into the v I P Visitors

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<v Speaker 1>site to watch the launch the next day, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a really, I think telling incident that that tells

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<v Speaker 1>us a lot about sort of where the space program

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<v Speaker 1>sat and popular imagination at the time, and how much

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<v Speaker 1>strong leaders on both sides could make an impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation on the eve of man's noblest venture. I

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<v Speaker 1>have profoundly moved by the nation's achievements in space and

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<v Speaker 1>the heroism of the three men embarking for the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we can do for space and exploration, we

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<v Speaker 1>demand that we do for starving people. The hard truth,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is that we didn't use Apollo as an

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration to eradicate poverty in America. We didn't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon because scientists were demanding it. We didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon because the public was demanding it. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Moon because the President pushed the program through,

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<v Speaker 1>believing that a successful space race would earn the United

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<v Speaker 1>States a significant victory in the Cold War. The most

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<v Speaker 1>audacious thing humans had ever attempted was also something only

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<v Speaker 1>the planet's richest nation could afford to try. Yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was deeply controversial, but it also worked and directly paved

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<v Speaker 1>the way for the technological age in which we now

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<v Speaker 1>find ourselves. There may come a time when America will

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<v Speaker 1>face a similar dilemma. Our planet is currently staring down

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<v Speaker 1>unprecedented challenges in climate change, dwindling resources, terrorism, and a

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<v Speaker 1>daunting refugee crisis. Some believe the solutions to these and

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<v Speaker 1>other problems can be found amongst the stars. The next

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<v Speaker 1>Apollo mission may not be about winning a Cold war,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather saving the entirety of the human race. And

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<v Speaker 1>when that time comes, that mission may be met with

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<v Speaker 1>the same controversy and skepticism. And why not. Our world

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<v Speaker 1>has never looked more like nineteen sixty nine, plagued by war,

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<v Speaker 1>racial discrimination, and political scandals. The same complaints made in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine are being made today. It doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like we've learned much in the last fifty years. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to care about space when grinding poverty, state sponsored racism,

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<v Speaker 1>violence against our LGBTQ brothers and sisters, and turning away

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<v Speaker 1>refugees fleeing war and oppression dominates the news every night.

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<v Speaker 1>NASA administrator Thomas Paine was right. The moon shot was

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<v Speaker 1>an example of what humans are capable of. Achieving, but

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<v Speaker 1>so is creating a sea change for every citizen on

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<v Speaker 1>this planet. Our choice is not one or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>it must be both. We must be bold enough and

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<v Speaker 1>brave enough to transform life on Earth and the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Apollo Control at sixty one thirty nine minutes

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. In less than ten seconds now, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>crossing into the sphere of influence of the Moon as

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon's gravitational force becomes the dominant effect on the

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft trajectory. At that point, which occurred a few seconds ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the spacecraft was at a distance of one eighty six thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred seven nautical miles from Earth and thirty three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred two nautical miles from the Moon. Day three

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<v Speaker 1>is over. Day four, July nine begins with our next

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<v Speaker 1>episode as we spin back to tell the story of

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<v Speaker 1>three stars, not celestial stars, but reality stars, the astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>and their families who lived beneath the withering media spotlight

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth as they trained to go to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>A moon vet on day four loose large and Apollo

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<v Speaker 1>eleven's windows as our crew prepares to undertake a series

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<v Speaker 1>of dangerous maneuvers to get into orbit. This podcast is

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