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Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Having beaten a really good team

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Speaker 2: You forgot that he was about to call them the

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Speaker 2: Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 4: But at some point maybe the Patriots defense will get

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Speaker 4: talked about like some of these other great defenses.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Do I have to? I have to, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, give a little lesson here?

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Speaker 5: Can you say?

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Speaker 2: But first I'd like to express my condolences to Evan.

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Speaker 2: We know his feelings on a team making the conference

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Speaker 2: championship game and having to pick at the end of

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Speaker 2: the first round like that. He doesn't like. See, that

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Speaker 2: was a wild game. It led to a white knucklock.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I clocked one thing to clock clocked it, noticed

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Speaker 4: It's more about motivation with him than it is inspire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure I can motivate. You're gonna inspire it. Well,

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Speaker 2: whatever was a person? What would Epa look like? Smart?

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Speaker 2: Like some kid from Last Supper Cuts Haircuts? Does Evans

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Speaker 2: still think it's too soon to play? In the AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game. Are we setting the franchise back for years

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Speaker 2: to come like the Commanders did? This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is cold day

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Speaker 2: here at Gillette Stadium, and it's gonna get colder. All

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Speaker 2: eyes are on the weather forecast for travel plans, especially

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Speaker 2: coming back after the AFC Championship win.

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Speaker 8: Some weather coming in here.

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Speaker 2: You step down my line after the AFC Championship win. Evan,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I did that. That was me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just glad that we can now predict yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't as comfortable saying things like that. Now I

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Speaker 2: Evan not in its usual seat. It's Paul because Deuce.

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Speaker 8: Is sick handing the postseason. He's got something.

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Speaker 2: Going on with his stomach, and we told him to

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Speaker 2: get the hell out of here because I can't get sick.

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Speaker 2: So he went home. We sent Deduce home. But the

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Speaker 2: three of us will hold it down, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, the team meets you, Fred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't have a nervous nelly. You have to go.

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Speaker 4: One o'clock.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you know what that means, Fred, But we'll have

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Speaker 8: Mike Rabel at about one ten.

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Speaker 2: We will he can break up some fight.

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Speaker 8: We have some other guys going to the podium today too, right,

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Speaker 8: we do some players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a little different feel here, uh this

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Speaker 2: can you know, you'll see when uh Rabel comes to

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Speaker 2: the presser, we'll have a different background because you know,

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Speaker 2: the league has to come in now and and you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they set up the table in the back usually.

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Speaker 2: So now it's not just hey Mike, it's Mike Evan

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Speaker 2: Lazar from Patriots dot com. You know, everyone has to

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Speaker 2: announce themselves now. Is that asked? Are they asked to

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Speaker 4: That is definitely less and less common, I would say

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Speaker 4: I I very rarely hear that. The only time that

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Speaker 4: Oh, they make them do that.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be like Karen Griggy Mass Live, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's been a long six years.

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Speaker 8: What this is sixteenth, sixteenth trip to the conference championship

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Speaker 4: Positive that they will carry the press conference today on

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Speaker 4: We got the word out we back.

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Speaker 2: We're back, absolutely all right. So with that out of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably gonna want They should anyway, even if

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, it does behoove the media to hype

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Speaker 8: There's one that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: But I think the part that I am trying to

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Speaker 4: And you know if any team turns the ball five times,

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Speaker 2: Turnover dge. It wasn't even in that game.

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Speaker 2: And your guys was on one of Paul's shows this

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: It's about the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Sure obviously if Drake May plays lights out or pass

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Speaker 8: Yes, and so what was it and so what does

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Speaker 2: Well, how good is Denver's defense?

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Speaker 8: That means the Denver defense didn't play well?

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Speaker 2: Possibly?

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Speaker 8: So like Fred and I like we're lockstep on this,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just about you. No, there's another team

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Speaker 2: Just you know, when it's a tight game in the

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Speaker 8: I want to have him to finish this point about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm trying to think because like, obviously you

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Speaker 2: And so, and I happen to agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know where they go. And you know,

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Speaker 4: So I think he's got you know, just on Stidham,

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Speaker 4: I think Jaredsidham can still roll out the pocket, like,

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Speaker 2: But do we know that for sure? Yes, you know

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Speaker 4: Like he's Bonnix. I think that's his best part of

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Speaker 4: I just think that that's also something that bo Nicks

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Speaker 8: I like you, Joe Burrow thing right that you threw

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Speaker 8: I think they will be able to do the Sean

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Speaker 8: go and watch that, and then I'm not scared.

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Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do is help fans avoid the

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Speaker 8: Sans don't need to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes they do, the Patriots, I'm not. I'm not worried

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Speaker 8: I don't worry about the fans mindset going on my games.

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Speaker 8: I just it doesn't really impact the game.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen in Minnesota on the Not Done Network,

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Speaker 4: But that's a different as you think that had something

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I fell into the track. I didn't

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Speaker 8: But we all listen, We're all asked to talk about

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Speaker 8: these games and make predictions, right.

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Speaker 4: I hate the predictions.

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Speaker 8: We all make bad predictions. If we all, like I

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Speaker 8: say all the time, if I knew them. But if

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Speaker 8: I knew what was going to happen in these games,

446
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Speaker 8: I would have resigned long ago and I'd be making

447
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Speaker 8: my living.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, bag, I'm just trying to help

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Speaker 2: people avoid making bad choice.

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Speaker 8: I agree with Evan if this game is even in

451
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Speaker 8: other words, there's no turnovers in this game, zeros are

452
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Speaker 8: I'm not even going to say like two to two,

453
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Speaker 8: because now I need to know what the turnovers result in.

454
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Speaker 8: So the Patriots two turnovers result in touchdowns for the Broncos,

455
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Speaker 8: and the Patriots two result in nothing, like you know,

456
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Speaker 8: So I'm just saying no one turns the ball over.

457
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Speaker 8: I do not see a path that the Broncos can

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Speaker 8: win this game. If the Patriots go and just write

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Speaker 8: protect the football, yeah and play regular offense, they will

460
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Speaker 8: move the ball against this defense and score more than

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Speaker 8: enough points that Jared Stidham will not be able to

462
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Speaker 8: catch up. I saw someone in Denver say, best case scenario,

463
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Speaker 8: Denver gets to seventeen. That's not going to be enough

464
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Speaker 8: to win this game unless the Patriots offense is continues

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Speaker 8: to be sloppy with the ball the way they have

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Speaker 8: been in the first two playoff games. I don't think

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Speaker 8: that will continue now. I didn't think we continue the

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Speaker 8: last game, and it did so again, we all make

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Speaker 8: bad predictions, yep, but I have a lot of confidence

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Speaker 8: that the Patriots offense will look more like it did

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Speaker 8: in the rag season and less like it has in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: In this game. Weather reports so far is supposed to

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Speaker 2: get cold, pretty cold but dry.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I saw that kind of changed. It was

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Speaker 8: supposed to be pretty mild in Denburgh and now I

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Speaker 8: just saw someone sent me something this morning staying it

478
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Speaker 8: was going to be really really cold, like thirties. Well

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Speaker 8: I heard, I heard like teens.

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Speaker 2: So it depends on what time you're looking at it,

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Speaker 2: when the sun goes.

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Speaker 8: I don't know who this is from, Somber.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a one o'clock local time kickoff, so

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Speaker 4: it's going to be right. The game is going to

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Speaker 4: be right in the middle of the day, so it's

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Speaker 4: not right.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I saw like thirty five, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing highs of thirties, loads of fifteen, right, but

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Speaker 2: the low is going to be a night. Yeah. The

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Speaker 2: question is win or the low. So now I'm going

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Speaker 2: to my hourly part of my app. This is great

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Speaker 2: because there is an app for this.

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Speaker 4: You have like a song.

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Speaker 2: So the game starts locally at one o'clock, right, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: it'll be twenty eight degrees at that time, and it

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Speaker 2: will get no lower than twenty four according to this.

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Speaker 2: But that was that's the colder than it was two

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Speaker 2: days ago.

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Speaker 4: It was, so it would see I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's dry, which is good. And then obviously you I

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Speaker 4: don't know about the patterns in the stadium, but you know,

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Speaker 4: wind I think is a big part. I think the

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Speaker 4: wind really influenced both quarterbacks in the Chargers game. In

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Speaker 4: the Wildcard round game, I think the win was an issue.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens with that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the Denver defense is a very different test than the

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Speaker 4: one that they just faced. Like Houston is more of

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Speaker 4: like a structured defense, like we kind of run our

510
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Speaker 4: scheme and merged sound and we have great players within

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Speaker 4: the scheme and that sort of thing. This defense is

512
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Speaker 4: much more aggressive and they cook it up a lot more,

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Speaker 4: they blitz a lot more, they spin the dial log.

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Speaker 2: So Sully, the die hard Patriots fans says, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of chatter out there the Stidium is

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Speaker 2: good enough to win this game, and I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 2: He's with Paul. Let's flip the script. What chance would

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Speaker 2: bront fans feel the Patriots would have against them with

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Speaker 2: Nick's healthy and we had to start Josh Dobbs. I

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Speaker 2: can hear the laughter all the way in Virginia.

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Speaker 8: I would give the Patriots very little shot to win

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Speaker 8: that game too.

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Speaker 2: But don't is Dobbs as good as did them?

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Speaker 4: I think it might be better?

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Speaker 2: You think so?

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Speaker 8: I mean his NFL resume is definitely more extensive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you because I.

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Speaker 8: Did find that weather thing that I saw and it

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Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily say temperature, it says wolf. This is true

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Speaker 8: arctic stuff for this weekend for Denver. Eastern Colorado going

533
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Speaker 8: to be brutally cool for the AOC title game this weekend.

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Speaker 8: This is from a guy named Chris Biyanki biyonkey Weather.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if that's like he's a like old

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Speaker 8: mediaorology just Y Weather. That's what I'm saying. Like he

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Speaker 8: does it on his own right, I don't know. I

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Speaker 8: don't know what that is, and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But also Sally said, two years off not facing NFL

540
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Speaker 2: regular season game, speed, not being all that familiar with

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Speaker 2: the receivers in Josh McDaniel's intimate familiarity with Stidham and

542
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Speaker 2: his game are a major problem for the Broncos. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem anyone is really giving credence to them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all good points.

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Speaker 4: What no one's giving credence to I think that's all

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Speaker 4: we're talking about, right, This.

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Speaker 8: Is I know, I knew that, but as the week

548
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Speaker 8: went on, somehow they would try to make it out

549
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Speaker 8: to be like again, the little Engine that could. So

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Speaker 8: they're five and a half point favorite on the road

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Speaker 8: in the AFC Tyler Game. Never has a road team

552
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Speaker 8: been a bigger favorite in a conference championship game period.

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Speaker 8: As you kids like to say, that's it, that's the tweet,

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Speaker 8: that's ends tweet. Really it never has a team this

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Speaker 8: big of a road road favorite. There's been Patriots have

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Speaker 8: had AFC championship games here that they've been bigger favorites in.

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Speaker 8: Never has a team been favored by more than five

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Speaker 8: and a half points on the road in a conference

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Speaker 8: championship game. That's how much people giving Jared Sidham a chance.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 8: People aren't giving Jared Cidham a chance to win this game,

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Speaker 8: I think, except for Fred.

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Speaker 2: That's right. You watch you know, listen to me. I've

564
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Speaker 2: helped a lot of you all season long. Don't don't

565
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Speaker 2: stop listening now, I hate stop listening. Well, the Patriots win, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm giving I'm giving away.

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Speaker 8: My part about Mark Daniels that I would agree with

568
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Speaker 8: is if the Patriots lose the game, it's going to

569
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Speaker 8: have more to do with the Patriots than Denver.

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Speaker 2: That I will agree with.

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Speaker 8: And I always give a team of punchers chance to

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Speaker 8: win the game. But it's what Evan said. Evan articulated

573
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Speaker 8: it perfectly. If you go out there and you're sloppy

574
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Speaker 8: with the ball and you give the other team points,

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Speaker 8: you know, maybe Marvin Mims returns a punt for a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Marvin Mims is almost as dangerous as Marcus Jones is

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Speaker 8: a punt return. Yeah, they're both very very good. But

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Speaker 8: to me, that's you breaking that to cooperate. Yeah, that's

579
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Speaker 8: you breaking down for that to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't know. I think with Stidham

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Speaker 4: to like, I also just give a lot of credence

582
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Speaker 4: to how good the Patriots defense is playing right now.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I highly doubt that they're going to

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Speaker 4: do anything really all that differently than what they probably

586
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Speaker 4: would have done with Bonnicks in terms of like, I

587
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Speaker 4: don't think they're going to outsmart themselves and go away

588
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Speaker 4: from what's been working with their their defense and with

589
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Speaker 4: the game plans that they've been running. I fully expect

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Speaker 4: them to come after him, just like they came after Stroud,

591
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Speaker 4: and they came after Herbert, And this is a guy

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Speaker 4: that hasn't seen a live rush in the NFL in

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Speaker 4: two years. So, like, you know, I just that I

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Speaker 4: think is more. It's just as much about that to

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Speaker 4: me as it is about Stidham individually.

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Speaker 8: I want to keep talking about that in a second,

597
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Speaker 8: but I just this is what I get back to.

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Speaker 8: It's like, how the Patriots defense is playing so far

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Speaker 8: in the playoffs. I think that's a great point. I

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Speaker 8: also would look at how Denver's defense has played down

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Speaker 8: the stretch and the one playoff game. It's not the

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Speaker 8: same defense that played the first half of the year.

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Speaker 2: That's that's true.

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Speaker 8: If they were playing Houston's defense again this week, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: then that would go with all of you. Hey, don't

606
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Speaker 8: don't eliminate chances with Jared didn't because I agree with you,

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Speaker 8: Fran I think you said this yesterday. He's probably gonna

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Speaker 8: play better than c. J. Stroud did. Ooh yeah, because

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Speaker 8: you can't play any worse than that. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 8: there was a reason why that was his historically bad

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Speaker 8: performance in the playoffs. So if the Broncos defense steps

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Speaker 8: forward and plays like they did, say maybe in Week two,

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Speaker 8: you know who knows, and you know we're gonna go

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Speaker 8: with trends. Right, we're talking about how well the Patriots

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Speaker 8: defense is played. I agree with you ev talking about,

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Speaker 8: you know, how sort of mid the Broncos defense has

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Speaker 8: been lately. Maybe the Patriots offense continues to play like

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Speaker 8: it has in the postseason. Yeah, I don't think that

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Speaker 8: will happen. So you might say, oh, what a Homer fraud,

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Speaker 8: And I think they feel I'd be guilty of that.

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Speaker 8: I've watched Drake May all year. I don't think he's

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Speaker 8: gonna fumble four more times.

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Speaker 4: They feel kind of due to have a better offensive game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and.

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Speaker 8: Again that might be me being a home right, I'm

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Speaker 8: okay with that.

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Speaker 4: They do feel kind of due for that, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that if I was the Patriots though, like

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Speaker 4: with Stidham, I think that you play this game and

630
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Speaker 4: you just throw the kitchen sink of disguises at him

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Speaker 4: and you just nothing's the same as the last play.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you need to mix up your coverages,

633
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 4: mix up your shells, you know, too high one high

634
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Speaker 4: man zone. I'd probably play a little bit more zone

635
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Speaker 4: in this game than they have been because I want

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Speaker 4: eyes on the quarterback because I think he's going to

637
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Speaker 4: try to he might throw you a couple if you

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Speaker 4: see it coming. I'd also test, like when you play

639
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: zone now, the receiver and the quarterback have to be

640
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Speaker 4: on the same page, like I'm sitting here, you know,

641
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: cutting there. And you know, he hasn't really repped with

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00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: these receivers a whole lot because he's been the backup,

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Speaker 4: you know. So I think all these things that I'm

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Speaker 4: describing are all things they've been doing.

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Speaker 2: What's more likely games over by halftime or it comes

646
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Speaker 2: down to the last possession, games over by halftime, So.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots like usually run away in the third quarter.

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Speaker 4: So that's like.

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Speaker 8: It was twenty one ten at the half Sunday.

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Speaker 4: That's true, but that's not over.

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Speaker 2: Oh to me, it is, I know, But twenty one

652
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Speaker 2: sixteen did I know you? So? Yeah, it was. I know.

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Speaker 8: It's like not nod over.

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Speaker 4: It was over when Kishan Budi caught that touchdown, that

655
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Speaker 4: was the nod.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I would you know what I'm saying, Fred,

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Speaker 8: Like when they were up twenty one ten at the half,

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Speaker 8: you didn't think there was much of a chance they

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Speaker 8: were going to lose. No, but it's not over. Yeah,

660
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Speaker 8: I mean absolutely.

661
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: Whenever I've been I've watched these games for a long time,

662
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: whenever the Patriots defense is playing really well, and I

663
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: go back to the first part of the Dynasty three

664
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: oh four and even that last Super Bowl that they won.

665
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: When the defense is playing well, I have a sense

666
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: of what would the score needs to be because I

667
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: know that, you know, you know, when it's back and

668
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: forth like other games, then I have the white knuckles.

669
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: But when the Patriots defense is playing now, I have

670
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence.

671
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 8: What would would need to be For you guys, you'll

672
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 8: just be nervous the whole time.

673
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: No, I I when it's a defensive game like that,

674
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: all it takes is one one.

675
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: I need three scores and I'll be good.

676
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 8: A three score lead at halftime, and you'll say that

677
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 8: that's the definition.

678
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: Over because they're going to be one dimensional second half

679
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: and we're going to teach.

680
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 8: Now we're thinking, if we're up, say twenty one to

681
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 8: seven at the half, Jared Stidham's going to lead a

682
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 8: fourteen points second half comeback. Like, I'm sorry, the game

683
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 8: is all.

684
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: Let's just say that they defer, they get the if

685
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: they go down the field second half and now it's

686
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: twenty one to fourteen game on, all it takes is

687
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: one turn over.

688
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 8: All it takes I know, like I know, technically the

689
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 8: game rights over.

690
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: There's still enough possessions. Three scores. Well, I don't.

691
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 8: Know if then, I mean, if they're down three scores

692
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 8: and Denver gets the ball because don scores, now it's

693
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 8: only two scores, and if they fumble when they run

694
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 8: it back and.

695
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: The like, now by that time time becomes a factor,

696
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: so and they get urgent, they get antsia.

697
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 8: I just think if you get a lead in this game,

698
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 8: it's game, set match, any lead pretty much, if you

699
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 8: make them chase the way everybody's had to chase the

700
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 8: Patriots in the twenty twenty five season, the backup quarterback

701
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 8: is not going to do that.

702
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: It's not I always. I'm like, maybe it's just because

703
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: I tend to favor the offense a little bit more.

704
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: Inducesn't here it offset me. But like when it's like

705
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: the game, like the Charger game, like all it takes

706
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: is one Quinton Johnson bomb.

707
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 8: So I would agree with you that game was unnerving

708
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 8: throughout the second half, right because felt the Patriots were

709
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 8: in control. But you're right, as like when it's nine

710
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 8: to three, all it takes is one guy falling.

711
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: Down, right, the guy falls down covered busted coverage. You know,

712
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 4: Quinton Johnson gets over the top. You know, Courtlandon Moss

713
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: is the guy. Like all it takes is one of

714
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 4: those types of things happening in a game like that.

715
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: When the Patriots offense is cooking and Drake May is

716
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: putting points on the board, that's when I feel like

717
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: they're not going to lose today. And we haven't seen

718
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: that yet in the playoffs, and I do kind of

719
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: feel like he's a little bit due for that kind

720
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: of game.

721
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it, and I hope it happens.

722
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 8: I'm with Evan a lot on these kinds of scenarios

723
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 8: because when it's sort of a shootout, you always feel like,

724
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 8: you know, like I was watching the Buffalo the Buffalo

725
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 8: Denver game, and as Buffalo's like moving the ball and

726
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 8: then taking the lead, like you never once did you

727
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 8: think like, oh, that's it they got you know, they

728
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 8: just came from thirteen points down, they got the lead.

729
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 8: Now the game's over. No, you figure it's the NFL.

730
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 8: The other team's going to get the ball, they're going

731
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 8: to get out on score. And then when Denver went

732
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 8: down and scored, Never did I think, well that's it.

733
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 8: There's only a minute laugh, They're up right, No, you know,

734
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 8: like it's one of those offensive games that you never

735
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 8: You're never going to feel like it's over until you

736
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 8: can control the ball in the clock. Yeah, whereas those

737
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 8: defensive games, all it takes is one play, one play

738
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 8: to dramatically impact the outcome.

739
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: Paul mccollony says, as bad as Drake may played in

740
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: as little offense that we had, the Patriots still drove

741
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: the field three times made three great plays to score touchdowns.

742
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: It's not like the Texans completely shut them down. I

743
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: have confidence that we will be able to outscore the Broncos.

744
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 8: So that's really not correct. The Patriots in that game

745
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 8: had two hundred and forty eight yards of offense. That's

746
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 8: not driving, that's not like, that's not good. My guess

747
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 8: is that's the lowest total they had all year. Two

748
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 8: hundred and forty eight yards of offense.

749
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 4: It's good against that defense.

750
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 8: Three No, but I'm saying, like, let's not make this

751
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 8: out to be anything more than it was. The Texans

752
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 8: defense dominated Patriots on hundred percent in the game. I

753
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 8: think that what we say, six or seven three and outs. Yeah,

754
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 8: like the Patriots may I'll give Drake may In the

755
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 8: three receivers that caught the three touchdowns credit for those

756
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 8: three individual plays. They did not drive the field with

757
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 8: any degree of consistency. I think they'll be much better

758
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 8: this weekend.

759
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: Deb they had the.

760
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 4: One, the one that ended with Diggs's touchdown, was the

761
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 4: one kind of drive that they were able to string

762
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 4: some passes together. They hit those slants to slants.

763
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was literally.

764
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: A slant slant slant all the way down the field.

765
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: And then you know, I give them credit for the

766
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: backed up drive to in the fourth quarter. I mean,

767
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: truing off six minutes of the clock. There was big

768
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: That's where a lot of the yards came from. Yeah,

769
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: they probably moved the ball fifty yards on that drive.

770
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: It was a big drive and it was kind of

771
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: a little bit game over at that point. But I

772
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: agree with you, And that's the one that Rabel called it.

773
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 4: You know, a real classy drives class that's Bevan said

774
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: it yesterday. I don't care about how many yards you

775
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: run for, but can you run when you have the

776
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: lead in the fourth quarter and you're trying to just

777
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: grind the clock out?

778
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: And they did. Speaking of running the ball, Michelle, who

779
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: loves it when I call her Shlata, said she I

780
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: watched the Bills Broncos, and even though we don't have

781
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: a James Cook at running back who ran for one

782
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen yards, it looked to me like the

783
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: Broncos had a somewhat leaky run defense. Can we expect

784
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: a decent run game or was it merely Cook being

785
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: so freaking good? Oh and the circus apparently made a

786
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: pit stop in Buffalo today. We should talk about that later.

787
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, the run game, you know, that is spoiler. This

788
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 4: is what my preview will be a lot about. I

789
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: think it's that kind of game. I got to read

790
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: that you do. Yeah, actually, I was going to mention that.

791
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: It's all about that. It's definitely that kind of game.

792
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: If there's one sort of weakness, it's not necessarily there

793
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: in the stats, but they are a little bit undersized defensively,

794
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: especially on the defensive line. Their defensive line is definitely

795
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: more built to rush the passer than it is to

796
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: stop the run. I think the guy that they out

797
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: of the guys that they play, DJ Jones is three

798
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: h five. He's the biggest guy that they have, you know.

799
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: Zach Allen is a two eighty two ninety you know

800
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: kind of defensive tackle. Nick Bonito is and Jonathan Cooper

801
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: on the smaller side as well. Their numbers against the

802
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: runner have been good all year. It's not like a

803
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 4: Buffalo situation where they're great against the pass and horrible

804
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: against the run. But in a matchup like this, you know,

805
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: I would agree that getting Drake may under center running

806
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: the football, maybe running it out of some of those

807
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: six zero line packages and then trying to open up

808
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: the passing game with play action. That seems to be

809
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 4: the formula that Buffalo used, and I think the Patriots

810
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: can come close enough. They don't have Buffalo's offensive line,

811
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: they don't have James Cook, but their run game has

812
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: been good enough down the stretch here that I think

813
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: that they can pretty much replicate it.

814
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: Barton Poland has some troubling news. Yeah, he says, since

815
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: the merger playoff home underdogs, the four plus points are

816
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: nine to oh against the spread. But that is correct.

817
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: But what are they in overall? Like, you know, I think.

818
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: I think in nineteen seventy five happened.

819
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 8: I think spreads this big. They're two and two and three.

820
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 8: The favorite is two and two and three overall, so

821
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 8: they Yeah, they still have.

822
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 2: A losing record.

823
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's rare to be this big of an UH

824
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 8: favorite on the road at this time.

825
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: Because these of the two supposedly best teams left in

826
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: the conference.

827
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: I think they are. If Bonix was healthy, I think

828
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: these are. They've been the two best teams all year

829
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: in the AFC. I think they would be. You know,

830
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: he's just not healthy, so I don't know, Like I

831
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: know that there's gonna be a lot to be made

832
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: about you know what Bart just said, you know the

833
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: Patriots history in Denver. I just I don't really think

834
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: any of that holds a lot of ways in this.

835
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 8: Yea, it's not necessarily I don't think the Patriots history

836
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 8: in Denver. I do think Denver is a tough place

837
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 8: to play, period, Like for anybody. There's a reason why

838
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 8: they win a lot of games at home, and it's

839
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 8: not just because they're always better than the team that

840
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 8: they're playing and they always play at home, right, so

841
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 8: they're more used to it because they're always there. I

842
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 8: wanted to ask Evan about because the sort of the

843
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 8: knee jerk thing is, well, you got a young, well

844
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 8: not in a young quarterback, but an inexperienced quarterback playing

845
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 8: heat them up. Patriots have been good at it. Do

846
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 8: you have any concern that going after him and then

847
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 8: not succeeding as much as they have doing that to

848
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 8: the Chargers and the Texans because you're playing a really

849
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 8: good offensive line might open up some possibilities or is

850
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 8: it just we're going to disguise everything and try to

851
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 8: confuse stit them and that's how we're going to do this.

852
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I go more or towards the second one, because

853
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: my fear about in the when you look at the

854
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: metrics too, Like the Patriots, even in the Texans game,

855
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: their four man pass rushes have not been very effective.

856
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: And so that's even against two very bad offensive lines. Right,

857
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: So if you go into this game against the Broncos

858
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 4: and you're only rushing four guys against a good offensive line,

859
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: I think he's going to have all day back there.

860
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: And even though I don't think much of Jared's did

861
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: him any quarterback in the NFL who has clean pockets

862
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: and is playing basically, you know, untouched like that, he's

863
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: going to be able to make some throws if that's

864
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: the situation. So maybe they get to it differently where

865
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: they still maintain six or seven guys in coverage, and

866
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: there's different ways to do that. But I think that

867
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 4: if you just try to rush for at this Broncos

868
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: offensive line, I think you're gonna have a tough time

869
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: getting pressure on Stdam Yeah.

870
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 8: I was thinking more in terms, and you might be right,

871
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 8: and that was, you know, certainly makes a lot of

872
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 8: sense the way you put that. I was wondering if

873
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 8: maybe you just try to confuse him with coverage.

874
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could do that and try to get them

875
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: to hold the ball. Yeah, you could definitely try to

876
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Speaker 4: do that. And maybe you know that is the cat

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Speaker 4: and mouse of it all, where you know, they think

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Speaker 4: we're going to go blitz because we have been blitzing,

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Speaker 4: So we start not blitzing, but then we blitz in

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Speaker 4: the second half to kind of close it out or

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Speaker 4: vice versa. You know that that's sort of the chest.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you run like one of those stunts, or maybe

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Speaker 8: you try to do something to dial up pressure on

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Speaker 8: a spot and maybe the Bronco is just a little

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Speaker 8: bit better than the Texans and they, you know, get

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Speaker 8: enough of a guy and they give them a second

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Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, you give him an easy throw.

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Speaker 8: That would be my concern. Don't make anything easy for him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder you know their start their starting center

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Speaker 8: Oh, this is the original starter. This is the original starter.

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Speaker 8: Is a very this is what this is. This is

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Speaker 8: these guys to come off by r and save their seasons.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so Alex forthsythe who's their backup center, got

897
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Speaker 4: hurt against Buffalo. Yeah, so they had to go to Mustafar,

898
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Speaker 4: their third string center, who is in line to start

899
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Speaker 4: very good year before he got hurt, unless he can

901
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: play in the game. He has a shoulder injury and

902
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Speaker 4: they designated him to return from my injured reserve. So

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Speaker 4: toward all in duct tape, Freddy, if he doesn't play

904
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Speaker 4: or if he's you know, half a shell of himself

905
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Speaker 4: that you can target on this offensive line, and left

907
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Speaker 4: guard is a little bit weaker. Their two tackles have

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Speaker 4: been great mcglinchy and Bulls. Their right guard is a

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Speaker 4: he's not a guy you want to mess with.

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Speaker 4: It though, you know, like can Milton Williams and Christian Barmore,

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Speaker 13: AFC divisional cloud.

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Speaker 2: We all we got, we all we.

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Speaker 5: Think you throw?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hey god, I'm talking today, man, today about being aggressively.

977
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Speaker 2: Let's take it together and we're.

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Speaker 9: Gonna tell you what you want. Man, Hey, I came

979
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Speaker 9: to fight.

980
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I came to fight.

981
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Speaker 9: You can pay why to fight?

982
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Speaker 15: Nine?

983
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: Okay, we want to.

984
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Speaker 13: Three hatreds aggressive on fourth down, three to the left

985
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 13: before doubtless moment into the light. Nobody will talks to

986
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Speaker 13: be serious to the right, including Douglas. May's looking that way.

987
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Speaker 13: He throwing down on Douglas makes look at cot a

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Speaker 13: tad pie touchdowns trends.

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Speaker 9: He all right, hey, that's play at the wy next

990
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Speaker 9: what here we goes rock. He just keep doing our job.

991
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 5: That's it.

992
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Speaker 9: The only thing that matter.

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Speaker 13: The person jest for the Dutch's working white the left

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Speaker 13: on the far hashbark c J strout duel leg do

995
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Speaker 13: the near sight receiver come out and Trump goes up

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Speaker 13: in the air minus up to.

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Speaker 9: Marcus Jones Bright twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 8: Ten.

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Speaker 9: Joe's just tackle my lunchet. Ship takes him to the

1000
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 9: pup On Jup takes a hit for that. Look at it.

1001
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Speaker 9: It's gets a t stuck going beats. If you get

1002
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Speaker 9: love it.

1003
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Honna yell at you to let me

1004
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Speaker 2: block more. You'll trying to get in front of the dude.

1005
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: I say it up, say hold on thy mart And

1006
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mark, let me get it front Mary.

1007
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 5: If uns.

1008
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: Ain't throw the ball, they ain't throw the ball.

1009
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 9: Maybody keep it from both? Howboy said this was gonna

1010
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Speaker 9: be eas does we play.

1011
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Down's a second?

1012
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 13: Down to eight the snap of the late hand up,

1013
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 13: Mars runs up the middle, ran into a teammate lost

1014
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 13: his balance. Initially as he tried to carry to right,

1015
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 13: Nelly gets loose, but the boat goes free.

1016
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 9: Backed out by the Patriots who have it game today.

1017
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 9: This is the type of.

1018
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 5: Game it is.

1019
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: We have to take the ball away.

1020
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 10: Ain't the ball away?

1021
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, this is an identity quarter right here right,

1022
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: our identity verse there all right, make sure that we

1023
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: do a great job with our identity.

1024
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 13: He throws a long ball. He done the rights up.

1025
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 13: Cajon Dundy cruises tatas day Patrians, Buddy.

1026
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, where you from?

1027
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 10: How you can go too?

1028
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: We're gon beat up by the Patriots.

1029
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 16: Win it over the Texans twenty eight to sixteen, having

1030
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 16: reached the AMC Championship game, got by Ray.

1031
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Great love, good baby, and now great moments in a.

1032
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: History.

1033
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 6: The people that I had to listen to, he's system quarterback.

1034
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 6: It's all dank and dunk. He's an average. Those people

1035
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 6: are out there that it's proven. You know those people, yes,

1036
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: and they've gone quiet that it was just proven when

1037
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 6: they let the league in touchdown passes.

1038
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: We know that.

1039
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 6: But there's still there for people that would come after you.

1040
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 6: The whole into the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen n was

1041
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Speaker 6: all the whole time.

1042
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 8: He's really really he's the wall. He's on the wall, and.

1043
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: I don't care about the wall.

1044
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 8: I don't care about the wall.

1045
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Fifteen.

1046
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Speaker 8: In twenty sixteen, there wasn't a lot of people saying that, yeah,

1047
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 8: he's not that good, he's just a game man.

1048
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: He might have gone away. You'd be surprised, I really think,

1049
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, especially in your chamber. I can imagine I'm

1050
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: not surprised that you heard it.

1051
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 9: I just don't.

1052
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 8: I just don't think that was very prevalent. I think

1053
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 8: there was, like you know Max Kellerman's and you know

1054
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 8: Eric Sclavino's. I think that a lot of the game

1055
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 8: manager dink and dunk things went away for good and

1056
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 8: oh seven, Yeah, yes, when he's had all the records, right,

1057
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 8: he showed you I could do it you away, I could.

1058
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 5: Do it my way.

1059
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.

1060
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: I could do it.

1061
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 6: It's the same argument I used when I get into

1062
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 6: it on social media.

1063
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 2: But look what Wolker and Brands.

1064
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 9: I got to give them credit.

1065
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 8: Though Deuce he finds them and now he hates them.

1066
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1067
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Speaker 2: All right back here. Patriot's Unfiltered eight five five pasts

1068
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Speaker 2: five hundred is the hotline. It's Deuce, not Deuce. Deuce

1069
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Speaker 2: is sick. He's got a stomach bug. Incause you're late

1070
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: turning in, we sent him home.

1071
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: I love how on medical records just become public.

1072
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: Now we don't want him.

1073
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 8: It's got a big of a stomach bug.

1074
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if we let do stay and if

1075
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 2: he goes to the locker room like he usually does

1076
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: and just gets the whole team sick. Oh my god,

1077
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: that would be a disaster.

1078
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: They all had they all had the flu.

1079
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: I know, well, thank god it we come from us. Okay, yeah,

1080
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to open it up. I don't know if

1081
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: there was something I had.

1082
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: I do have.

1083
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Speaker 8: I'm interested to hear Paul's I have a scenario that

1084
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 8: the Broncos could win the game that wouldn't necessarily involve

1085
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 8: like a fluke. But I'll save it for a couple

1086
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 8: more minutes.

1087
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go to the phones. We'll start with

1088
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: Herm in DC. What's up? Herm?

1089
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 17: What's going on?

1090
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 13: Fellas?

1091
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Fred?

1092
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 18: Listen, I tell you like I tell my wife always.

1093
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 18: Now you worried much? Brother, you really do. Let's don't

1094
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 18: overthink this, No, really, let's not overthink this, right, And

1095
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 18: my point is not even that Cinner might be like

1096
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 18: a bad quarterback. I mean, he might be fine, but

1097
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 18: he hasn't taken a step in what like almost three years,

1098
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 18: and he has what seven days to prepare for a defense?

1099
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 18: Current giving up knock point five points per game is

1100
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 18: it's just not going to happen. It just won't.

1101
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question, and I'll ask

1102
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: these guys too, is how much better do you think

1103
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: bo Nix is instead of oh, like, do you think

1104
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: great quarterback? That the loss is devastating?

1105
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 8: Yes, especially the way Evan said it.

1106
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think very highly.

1107
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think.

1108
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: I think that if bo Nix was still the starter,

1109
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: people would be saying he's not that good.

1110
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 8: If Bonix was the starter, people would still think the

1111
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 8: Patriots were going to win the game.

1112
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: That's my whole point.

1113
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 8: Now, you're just trying to, you know, prevent it from

1114
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 8: being overconfident, because somehow that you impact the game by

1115
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 8: being too overconfident.

1116
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like I would feel like I would

1117
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: probably be saying bo Nix isn't that good, because I'd

1118
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: be worried that they were going to lose the game,

1119
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: so I'd be.

1120
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: Trying to like get talking.

1121
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 8: Yes, but yes, but the way you talked about b

1122
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 8: Nicks and how much they rely on him, Yeah, at least.

1123
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm sorry the way he's asked to run

1124
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 8: the ball and make plays off platform and extend plays

1125
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 8: like he's an awful lot for a team that really

1126
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 8: kind of limited offensively.

1127
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. He You know, I've been critical about Knicks because

1128
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: I think that he's widely inconsistent even within games. But

1129
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 4: some of the throws he made late in that game

1130
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: against the Bills last week, it were legit. You know,

1131
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: the touchdown pass to Franklin. He threw one to Trotman

1132
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: up the seam. That was a great throw.

1133
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 8: My feeling on bo Nicks is not necessarily because of

1134
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 8: bow Nicks. It's I'm sorry if I can't tell a

1135
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 8: guy that hasn't ever really played in seven years in

1136
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 8: the league is not that big of a drop off

1137
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 8: thanks her. That's you know, It's it's less about pro

1138
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 8: bow Knicks as it is like just complete unknown for

1139
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 8: Jared Stidham Christian in LA.

1140
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: What's up.

1141
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: The last time that the Patriots played Denver? In Denver,

1142
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: the AFT Championship game and I was at that game.

1143
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: I had won a Patriots app contest to fly to

1144
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: the game and stay on the same floor as a team,

1145
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: and I wound up having like a fifteen to twenty

1146
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: minute conversation with mister Craft. And to this day it's

1147
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: my my sports you know, of greatest sports memory.

1148
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: How did you get by security?

1149
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1150
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, I actually got into a fight with the

1151
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 3: guy at security because I walked in and I was

1152
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: wearing my Patriots gear and he said good luck, and

1153
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm a fivy guy, and I just snapped right away.

1154
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 14: Well you mean good luck?

1155
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 10: You think we need look to beat you?

1156
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: And I went I went off on the guys.

1157
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 14: Yeah, got into a fight.

1158
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: But football wise, guys, the only way I see Denver

1159
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: making any big plays this week is going to be

1160
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: trick plays of fake punch and pass in apperances, which

1161
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: brought me to like, if I'm Denver thinking about the game.

1162
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 10: Who is who?

1163
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: Like who's the weak link on our team? For me,

1164
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: it seems like Carlton Davis is the most susceptible if

1165
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: you match everything up and everything even getting those past

1166
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: in apperances down the field. Probably late or things of

1167
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: that nature. And so I was wondering, who you guys

1168
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 3: think is Denver's week link and vite versa, and then

1169
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: I have to score twenty eight to ten Patriots.

1170
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good? Yeah, thanks Christian.

1171
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: I mean Carlon Davis. You know, he gets penalty He

1172
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: gets three penalties a game, and he makes three plays

1173
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: a game, like it seems like that's definitely.

1174
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 8: I think he's playing better in the playoffs than he

1175
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 8: did in the regular season, but he did he even

1176
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 8: even in the playoffs, he's he's gotten some penalties.

1177
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Uh yeah, I mean I hear what

1178
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: he's saying in terms of the pass interferences and stuff

1179
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: like that. I tend to think and I know it

1180
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 4: didn't happen this way, you know, over time last week

1181
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: Agad's buffalo. But it's gonna have to be a pretty

1182
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 4: agregious pass interference for them to like decide games at

1183
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: this stage on things like that.

1184
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 8: So do I sound that bad when I say, like

1185
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 8: the Broncos are incapable of making a play that's not

1186
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 8: a trick play or a pass in afference or fake

1187
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 8: punt or fake punt? Do I sound that bad. Yeah,

1188
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 8: because I don't mean to sound that bad, like I

1189
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 8: expect that. I don't expect Jared's did n't to go

1190
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 8: out and fall down like you know, I think he

1191
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 8: should be able to run the offense set, you know,

1192
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 8: a reasonable level. I just don't think it's that great

1193
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 8: of an offense to begin with.

1194
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Well that that makes sense to me, which your confidence

1195
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: makes sense to me. If I know you're thinking that.

1196
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 4: Way, I have to go assoom. So I just look

1197
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 4: on that note. I thing that don't overlook is that

1198
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 4: Pat Bryan and Troy Franklin might also not play in

1199
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: this game for Denver, so that's their number two and

1200
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: number three receivers. Troy Franklin had injured his hamstring against Buffalo,

1201
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: and Pat Bryan's in concussion protocol, missed most of the

1202
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: game actually last week. So Cortland Sutton's going to play,

1203
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: Marvin Mims is gonna play. But Marvin Mims is really

1204
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 4: like they're kind of Pop Douglas like he's like a

1205
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 4: kind of more of like a situational player most of

1206
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: the time, a gadget guy. If they don't have Franklin,

1207
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 4: who's their second leading receiver on the team, and is

1208
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 4: really good.

1209
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: For it's a big loss.

1210
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: And then Pat Bryan is a rookie who's kind of

1211
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: emerged as the third receiver down the stretch.

1212
00:56:59,880 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: Here.

1213
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: For them, it's not just bonicks. Like now we're talking

1214
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 4: about taking you know, imagine if the Patriots are going

1215
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 4: into this game without you know, Digs and Booty and

1216
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 4: you know, they're relying on Eft and Chisholm, and they're

1217
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: relying on Kyle Williams. Like that's kind of where Denver

1218
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: might be, along with not having their starting quarterback. So

1219
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: when you take all these these pieces out of an

1220
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: offense that was already kind of middling, it really is bleak.

1221
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: Ryan's in Virginia. Hey Ryan, Ryan, Yeah we can all right.

1222
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 5: I was on youute.

1223
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 19: Sorry, So this would probably be a better catch twenty

1224
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 19: two topic, but I'm on my lunch now, so here. So,

1225
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 19: the Broncos blit at like a thirty one point nine

1226
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 19: per rate according to stats. They led the league in sacks,

1227
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 19: being extremely aggressive, but the Texans were a lot lower,

1228
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 19: at like a twenty one point nine percent rate, relying

1229
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 19: on a lot of four man rushes with some stunts

1230
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 19: that really just mostly will Anderson and de Neil Hunter

1231
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 19: going to just go win their battles. Statistically, Drake may

1232
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 19: is one of the best quarterbacks in the Leavers. With

1233
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 19: the blitz this year, I really think of the offense

1234
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 19: is actually going to be much better equipped for this

1235
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 19: specific matchup than they were for the Texans, despite them

1236
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 19: both being great defenses. But I wanted more of a

1237
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 19: ball nower.

1238
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 10: Thought on this.

1239
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense to me, but we'll let Evan Yes.

1240
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of talked about.

1241
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: This earlier in the show, like this to me is

1242
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: a is a very chaotic Denver defense. This is more

1243
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 4: of a defense that likes to spin it and cook

1244
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: it up and blitz as the caller said, and all

1245
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. The Texans defense is a four

1246
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: man rush. They sit in their coverage, they kind of

1247
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: do what they do. They just went with pure talent

1248
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 4: and with us, you know, sound system and scheme, so

1249
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 4: it's very different challenge. I would say this one's closer

1250
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: to probably what they saw with the Chargers than what

1251
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: they saw with Houston. The blitz stuff, I think is

1252
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: kind of interesting because they run a lot of like

1253
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: simulated pressures in st enuff like that where they're dropping

1254
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: guys off the line of scrimmage and then blitzing from

1255
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: the linebackers usually, so like even though they technically are

1256
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: blitzing and we can get into that minuchia, and they

1257
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 4: are somewhat maintaining their coverage structure by dropping guys out

1258
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 4: of the rush. So I don't know if it's like

1259
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: truly a blitz. It's it's a really fun defense and

1260
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 4: a lot of the times, like I was saying on

1261
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: catch twenty two, it's actually like kind of hard to

1262
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 4: understand what they're in, like they because they it's it's

1263
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 4: very disguise heavy and exotic. So it's going to be

1264
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: one of those defenses where I'm like Houston Houston's was

1265
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: like you just have to make plays, like can we

1266
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: block our guys? Can they block these guys? And can

1267
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: we make plays on the outside.

1268
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: I mean, it's the personnel. I just think the Houston's

1269
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 8: personnel is light years better than Denver's personnel there there, I.

1270
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: Would say their edge guys. You know, Benito is a

1271
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: good player.

1272
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 15: But.

1273
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 8: Probably better than both Stingley and but I just don't

1274
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 8: think as a whole it's it's anywhere near his talent.

1275
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was two callers Ago asked, like,

1276
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 4: who's like the weak link? Riley Moss is the weak

1277
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: link in their secondary. He's been targeted one hundred and

1278
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: nineteen times this year because he's playing on the other

1279
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: side of Patrick.

1280
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 8: Rate, so they're they're not gonna want to you know, nobody.

1281
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 4: Wants to throw at Pat Surtan, so they're all throwing

1282
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 4: at Riley Moss. He also leads the league in defensive

1283
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: pass interference calls this year as well, So he's the

1284
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 4: one guy that if you can get Booty or you

1285
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: can get Kyle Williams on him on the outside, that

1286
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: maybe they could hunt and win that we have a line.

1287
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: On who the ref crew is.

1288
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: I think we do know who.

1289
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: What's his name? We just whoever it is, what are

1290
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 2: their tendencies?

1291
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 8: So I don't know about the penalties, But this guy's

1292
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 8: four and o with Denver this year or something like that.

1293
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 8: And he's also too and old with the Patriots, so

1294
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 8: no one's never lost.

1295
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: These these types of trends that cracked me out, like

1296
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 4: to give that name the under the home underdogs and

1297
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: spreads and records in Denver and records with their like

1298
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: none of this stuff do you all think this stuff

1299
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: matters like.

1300
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 8: I do think the tenancy, yes, Hansy like pass interference guys,

1301
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 8: I think that those kinds of cruise.

1302
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that.

1303
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: I'm talking about more like Denver's four and out with this.

1304
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 8: No, no, no, that doesn't a former.

1305
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: Head coach from this team. You still always know who

1306
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: the refs are.

1307
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: They're not talking about I'm not talking about that, Alexx,

1308
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 4: Alex Kemp, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

1309
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 4: teams records with those reefs. I'm not talking about.

1310
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 8: Agree with you, that does not happen, especially when he's

1311
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 8: undefeated both teams games.

1312
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: But how they call it game matters, Yes, no doubt.

1313
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: When we played New Orleans the ref was from LSU.

1314
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

1315
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. But this this feels like that

1316
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: feels like that feels like a stretch department.

1317
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 8: That also doesn't matter. That would be another one in

1318
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 8: to whether or not whether or not that he had,

1319
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 8: like say, I don't know five hundred thousand dollars was

1320
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 8: you know, deposited to his checking account that week. That

1321
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 8: would matter to me because I'm not taking that off

1322
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 8: the table for that guy. Oh that New Oyans game.

1323
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, maybe it wasn't LSU think because

1324
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: Joe Murray that was what the most ridiculous penalties I've

1325
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 4: ever seen.

1326
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: I agree, yep, ridiculous.

1327
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 8: I'm always out of my mind until the Patriots are

1328
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 8: on the other end of one of those calls.

1329
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: And then everybody's with me. Now you're with me, Pop,

1330
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: Let's go to Colorado.

1331
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 8: It's and is this an stone has to be?

1332
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 10: It's is Anne Stone? How are you guys?

1333
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 5: How you doing?

1334
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 8: And let me hear this accident?

1335
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: And I'm here for it, and leads up the Pike's

1336
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: Peak Pat's Club. What's going on out there?

1337
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 10: And well, I've missed you, Fred. I'm glad I'm going

1338
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 10: to get to see you, or at least I hope

1339
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 10: I get to see you.

1340
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: Well, I won't be there for the start. I'll probably

1341
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: come by later.

1342
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 10: Oh okay, that's good, that'll be great. Yeah, I mean

1343
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 10: who thought. I mean, like everybody else, I was like, oh,

1344
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 10: just give us a winning season. So all of a sudden,

1345
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 10: as we got closer, I thought, oh my god, I'm

1346
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 10: going to have to throw a party.

1347
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome.

1348
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 10: So we are. We've got Jackson's Loto, which is a

1349
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 10: really great sports bar across the street from corse Field.

1350
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 10: I've been working with the Craft fan engagement group, Abigail

1351
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 10: and Jeff, fabulous people. They're going to do sports I

1352
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 10: mean Patriots All Access Live show up on the rooftop

1353
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 10: of Jackson's and right where we're having our party. So

1354
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 10: that's a free sand rally. They'll have pat Patriot and

1355
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 10: the cheerleaders. And I know Dave Andrews is going to

1356
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 10: be there. You know, I think Mike Grease am almost

1357
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 10: positive Mike Greece is going to be there.

1358
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 8: Adam is going to be there too, So Mike Greece

1359
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 8: definitely will be there. He's part of the All Access show.

1360
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: He will be there.

1361
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 10: Oh yes, Well are you serious about Adam Vinitierry?

1362
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I am, Yes, future Pro Football Hall of Famer, mother.

1363
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Of God, Yeah, mother God awesome. Yes, the greatest, greatest accent.

1364
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: She lives in Colorado.

1365
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 10: She's from High Packed girl.

1366
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's from Hi Hi Pack. Yeah. So how many

1367
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: people are in your club these days?

1368
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 10: Well, between we had COVID, then back closed before yeah,

1369
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 10: and then Tom left and you sort of got to

1370
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 10: know who with the die hads and who you know,

1371
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 10: so i'd say where maybe eighty.

1372
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Speaker 8: Ninety Okay, all right, still good, that's a good shot.

1373
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: I got a feeling it's going to grow.

1374
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1375
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that Rabel and May are on the team.

1376
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: To get your numbers back up.

1377
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well I used to be three four hundred,

1378
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 10: I know.

1379
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1380
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 10: Mine always goes up and down because of the five

1381
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 10: military bases. If you live in you know, I don't

1382
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 10: know wherever, you have a steady If you have you know,

1383
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 10: eighty fans in the town, then that's what you have.

1384
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 10: Mine goes up, it goes down because of who gets

1385
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 10: stationed at one of our five military bases.

1386
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: Right because you're out in Colorado Springs actually right.

1387
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 10: Yes, out in the Springs. But we were the very

1388
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 10: first club in the state, so that's why we always

1389
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 10: have hosted. I mean, you've been to I think almost

1390
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 10: everyone freend.

1391
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know lately I've been bad luck. But we're

1392
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: going to break that curse.

1393
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1394
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 10: Well, let's hope we can break the high altitude curse.

1395
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know. All right, well, and I can't

1396
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: wait to be out there see you on Saturday night.

1397
01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Have fun and thanks for calling in and you got

1398
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: a prediction before you go. Pain.

1399
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 10: Oh, I think it's us all the way. Yeah, but

1400
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 10: I'm trying not to get clocky because of the old

1401
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 10: any Sunday.

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Speaker 12: Rule, you know.

1403
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 5: Sure?

1404
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, well thanks a lot, and I'll

1405
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: see you on Saturday.

1406
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 10: A right, all right, thank you guys.

1407
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: By all right, I gotta go.

1408
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: I want to be rude and leave.

1409
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, the year that we went to we played

1410
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: Denver and then we had the game in Mexico, we

1411
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: spent we spent the week at the air Force case

1412
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: and I actually had dinner over at Anne's house. We

1413
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: had a bunch of us over. It was great.

1414
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 8: I bet I can envision that whole scene.

1415
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 5: I bet it was.

1416
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 8: I bet it was a wonderful time.

1417
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: I think Eric Scalovino was with us.

1418
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 8: He even went, oh yeah, he was not behind the

1419
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 8: Andy Hart. Yeah, I believe he was with That makes sense.

1420
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1421
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 8: So I'll give you a couple of things.

1422
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: You know, this is like.

1423
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 8: And they're all kind of intangible kind of qualities, and

1424
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 8: you never know how teams are going to react, right,

1425
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 8: So you want to be a scared We can be

1426
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 8: a scared together. Okay, I don't think this is really

1427
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 8: much to be worried about. But I think Sean Payton

1428
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 8: is a terrific offensive coach. I think he has done

1429
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 8: a good job being able to He's good for quarterbacks.

1430
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 8: I think he makes makes the reads pretty simple and whatnot. However,

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 8: or as Anne would say, however, I think he's a

1432
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 8: bit of a choker in big games. I think the

1433
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 8: Saints John Peyton is Yeah, I think the Saints traditionally

1434
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 8: fell short a choker. So why don't you listen. I'm

1435
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 8: going to give you the reasons to be a stand

1436
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 8: I think that they have routinely with Drew Brees. Now

1437
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 8: maybe it was because of Drew Brees, maybe he was

1438
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 8: the choker, but the Saints fell short at home quite often,

1439
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 8: and that nuclear powered offense didn't always play as well

1440
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 8: when the games were the most important. They had the

1441
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 8: one breakthrough when they beat the Colts, and I can't

1442
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 8: take that away.

1443
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: We'll say that had to do with Karina and you know,

1444
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: be nice for the city if they won.

1445
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 8: Okay, but my point being is I think that they've

1446
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 8: had the best team in the NFC several times and

1447
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 8: found ways to lose, and there's some pressure that goes

1448
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 8: with that can't win, the big one, can't consistently come through.

1449
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 8: Now here, they are the number one seed at home

1450
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 8: hosting the Patriots. If bo Nix is healthy, the pressure

1451
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 8: is on Denver. Patriots are playing with all the house money. Yeah,

1452
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 8: the pressure is on Denver. Well, that completely went out

1453
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 8: the window, that whole mindset. Now everybody expects Denver to lose.

1454
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 8: Everybody expects Sean Payton to be powerless to do really

1455
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 8: anything to help this guy who hasn't played a snap

1456
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 8: in over two years. So now it's the Broncos that

1457
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 8: have the house money. The pressure is on the Patriot's, yeah,

1458
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 8: to win this game. They're they're five and a half

1459
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 8: point favorites, they're supposed to win.

1460
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: I would say the pressure has shifted.

1461
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 8: So if you if you want to be afraid, I

1462
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 8: am not. I think the Patriots are going to win

1463
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 8: this game handily. Okay, we'll give our scores tomorrow, but

1464
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 8: that's the way I feel defense is playing too well.

1465
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 8: But if you want to be afraid, you want to

1466
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 8: like allow yourself to think if you feel too confident,

1467
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 8: it's going to impact the outcome of the game somehow.

1468
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 8: Go right ahead, But that would be the one thing

1469
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 8: that I would be worried about, Like the Patriots have

1470
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 8: been able to use this talk about the Texans defense

1471
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 8: last week, Well what about our defense? Our defense? Is

1472
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 8: he getting any respect? You don't have that this week?

1473
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: Right now?

1474
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 8: It's sure, let's make our arrangements for Santa Claus. How

1475
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 8: nobody believes in US, nobody believes in Denver. Everybody believes

1476
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 8: in the Patriots.

1477
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: That's right.

1478
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 8: How do the Patriots handle that?

1479
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: That's right.

1480
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 8: I don't have any concerns about it. But if you

1481
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 8: want to be afraid about something I would be afraid

1482
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 8: about that. Do they get a little bit too uh

1483
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 8: comfortable in cocky reading their press clippings?

1484
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: That's it.

1485
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 8: I don't have anything else for you because I don't

1486
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 8: think they can line up and beat you with a

1487
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 8: backup quarterback plan, not the way the defense has played

1488
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 8: the first two playoff games.

1489
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Eldridge in North Carolina? What's up Eldrid?

1490
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 8: Right?

1491
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: We got verbel Oh, let's go to Mike Rabel. Hold

1492
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 2: hold on, we're gonna put you that hole.

1493
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: If you might be activating the window from mac follows.

1494
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 5: That won't happen today.

1495
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: No, Like just a thought on your team ango on

1496
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: the road.

1497
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 5: What kind of things did you learn about your team as.

1498
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: A group that you could take into any road games

1499
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: such as one like this.

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 20: You know, we played a lot of different environments, and

1501
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 20: you're gonna take care of the football. You know, you're

1502
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 20: gonna have to try to find a way to you know,

1503
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 20: win in critical situations at the end of the half,

1504
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 20: at the end of the game, whether that's five minutes

1505
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 20: or you know, I just think back to you defendive

1506
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 20: getting stops in Miami and made a critical kick Tampa

1507
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 20: Bay we executed at the end of half, and you know,

1508
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 20: certain situations five minutes in New Orleans.

1509
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 16: You know.

1510
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 20: So I think each game kind of has its own story,

1511
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 20: but you better take care of football, especially in Denver.

1512
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 21: Mike, Mike, following Mike, following that up, following that up

1513
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 21: a little bit.

1514
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: What characteristics do players have to have to take that

1515
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: mentality on the road and be successful on the road.

1516
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 20: Well, I mean, I think we try to preach it,

1517
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 20: uh through you know, the entire offseason and being able

1518
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 20: to establish an identity that that travels overcoming mistakes that

1519
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 20: happened in the game, which there always are. I think

1520
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 20: that you have to be resilient. I mean, there's gonna

1521
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 20: be some swings in momentum. You're gonna have to be

1522
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 20: able to handle the environment offensively and not put yourself

1523
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 20: in in bad situations because you know your operation isn't

1524
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 20: very good. So there's a lot of things that we

1525
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 20: try to practice. Knowing that we're gonna have to play

1526
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 20: half of our games on the road. I would anticipate

1527
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 20: him being out there, probably in a limited capacity, but

1528
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,480
Speaker 20: I mean just working his way through protocol. The Broncos

1529
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 20: it's a lot of the season mode when the league

1530
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 20: with twenty three SAPs, which.

1531
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 5: Makes them so good, you know, other quarterback gets it out.

1532
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 20: They do a nice job with moving the pocket and

1533
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 20: different throws and not just standing back there. I think

1534
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 20: Sean and his staff has done a great job of,

1535
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 20: you know, finding the balance of win to throw in

1536
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 20: the pocket and you know, seven man protections sometimes on

1537
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 20: third down, and you know, and then again when they

1538
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 20: don't they block them. They do a nice job of

1539
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 20: blocking them on the edges, and you know they try

1540
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 20: to stay firm in the middle.

1541
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 22: You go back and look at preseason stuff or do

1542
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 22: you just kind of stick with what they do offensively,

1543
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 22: you can figure kieldhim sis up.

1544
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 20: You know, again, he's got, you know, the the snaps

1545
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 20: that he has, the four hundred so snaps that are

1546
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 20: you know, in regular season action, and then they have

1547
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 20: a lot of snaps.

1548
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 5: And what they want to do.

1549
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 20: So we'll have to be prepared for the plan and

1550
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 20: the things that they've shown. I'm sure there'll there'll be

1551
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 20: some things that they haven't shown. He's more than more

1552
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 20: than capable, uh to to go out there and operate.

1553
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 20: And it's why he's a you know, a backup and

1554
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 20: and one that was coveted around the league.

1555
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 5: How much did you tap into Josh's knowledge of him?

1556
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 5: And obviously he started a couple leaves for Josh in

1557
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 5: Vegas about think this is what he likes, this is

1558
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 5: what he doesn't like.

1559
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 20: I mean, I think every week we try to use

1560
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 20: every resource that we have at our disposal. Josh coached

1561
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 20: him a couple of years ago, so you know, anything

1562
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 20: that we have that we can use to to help us.

1563
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: We'll try no naps.

1564
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: Message this year.

1565
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 22: How do you make sure your defense doesn't take a

1566
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 22: nap against the back of quarterback.

1567
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't played cat?

1568
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 5: I think this is a pretty motivated group.

1569
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 20: I just think to try to continue to play together

1570
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 20: with the with the speed that they have the last

1571
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 20: couple of weeks, and you know, I'm confident that they'll

1572
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,480
Speaker 20: remain excited.

1573
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 5: And ready to go.

1574
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 14: You wrote in.

1575
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 15: Ashton Grant for the season as your quarterbacks coaching, what doing,

1576
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 15: what you've seen for him.

1577
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: How he's developed Drake and did you close pass him

1578
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: in Cleveland last year?

1579
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I worked with Ashton in Cleveland.

1580
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 20: I've got to evaluate him every day and what he

1581
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 20: did in Cleveland, and you know, I think it's a

1582
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 20: good balance between him and Josh, you know, and you know,

1583
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 20: Josh was really excited for us to be able to

1584
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 20: add Ashton. Was in on those interview processes that we

1585
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 20: had for the quarterback coach, and you know, I think

1586
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 20: Ashton really fit his vision that he had, you know,

1587
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 20: first year in the system. It's going to be you know,

1588
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 20: Josh is going to have a heavy role in that.

1589
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 5: And but also.

1590
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 20: I'll go in there and Ashton will be meeting with

1591
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 20: these guys situationally, and you know, I think there's a

1592
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 20: good balance between him and Josh and how long Josh

1593
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 20: has done it and the maybe the newness and the

1594
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,480
Speaker 20: youngness of Ashton is a nice little balance.

1595
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 5: Like mc collins practice today.

1596
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 20: Uh No, I would not anticipate, Karen, you just have

1597
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 20: to talk louder so they hear your question. I would

1598
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 20: not anticipate Mac being out there.

1599
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 15: Like you're not afraid drills from time to time with

1600
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 15: the guys. Is there a part of you as a

1601
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 15: player who's played in big games like this, Is there

1602
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 15: a part of you that deep down this is the

1603
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 15: physicality of the sport.

1604
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 5: Nope, Nope. Every day I wake up, I'm glad that

1605
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 5: I don't have to practice or or play.

1606
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 9: To Going back to.

1607
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 23: Milton Williams, the decision to sign him, identifying him as

1608
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 23: a potential main piece here in the defense.

1609
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,839
Speaker 2: Can you talk about that really thought of going.

1610
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 23: After him and then now that he's been here, you could,

1611
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 23: assuming he's met all expectations, if not more.

1612
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 20: You know, again you try to You know, free agency

1613
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 20: is always funny, and we knew we needed to supplement

1614
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 20: the roster and targeted some guys, got some guys, didn't

1615
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 20: get some guys, and you know, I was decided to

1616
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 20: add Milt the person there's quality, quality person and uh yeah,

1617
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 20: I mean I think the play speaks for itself with

1618
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 20: high expectations for everybody, but certainly Milt, and uh, you know,

1619
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 20: it's good to have him back out there, and it's

1620
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 20: helped in a lot of a lot of phases, a

1621
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 20: lot of areas in a run game. You know, it

1622
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 20: had some really nice plays last week and affecting the

1623
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 20: quarterback and we talked about on the interception return that

1624
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 20: his push kind of started it, knocking the guy back

1625
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 20: into the tight end. So you know, we'll we'll need everybody,

1626
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 20: including Milt. We'll need theirst efforts this week. And you know,

1627
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 20: again that's uh, that's kind of where it went last year.

1628
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 20: And you target guys and some guys you get some

1629
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 20: guys you don't, rookies.

1630
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 18: And younger players who maybe aren't used to the bright

1631
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 18: lights of the stage of an AFC Championship.

1632
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 21: How do you prepare them?

1633
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: Do you rely on some veterans to talk with younger guys?

1634
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 20: I mean there are two more games experienced in the

1635
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 20: playoffs than they were two weeks ago, So I mean,

1636
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 20: just try to play well and prepare and enjoy it.

1637
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 22: That you're doing here this week, preparing for the altitude

1638
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 22: and as it pertains to special teams as well. Anything

1639
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 22: that changes your game plan hitting into Sunday.

1640
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 20: Well, I'm sure we'll have to figure out how far

1641
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 20: Andy can kick with the altitude, you know, and then

1642
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 20: you know, just just being good with where we're going

1643
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 20: to put the kickoffs, and you know, Marcus is going

1644
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 20: to have to adjust where he aligns based on where

1645
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 20: the ball travels. And you know, but I'm confident that

1646
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 20: everybody's going to be ready to go, and you know,

1647
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 20: hopefully we can get you know, forceding the punt and

1648
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 20: give Marcus some opportunities.

1649
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 10: For drink in the news.

1650
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 4: Last games, he's had a few turnovers.

1651
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 22: How do you go about just addressing that with him

1652
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 22: and working on ball security, especially against now.

1653
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 20: Basic Denver, same way I do all the time. So

1654
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 20: just you know, we have to be able to not

1655
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 20: get careless with the football. We can't be reckless, you know,

1656
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 20: and a lot of it is is operation. I mean,

1657
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 20: we had two turnovers where you know, we all weren't

1658
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 20: on the same page. And not only is it, you know,

1659
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 20: that's you know, you could have a negative play if

1660
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 20: you don't have everybody on the same page. But even worse,

1661
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 20: you know, you lose the football or if you don't

1662
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 20: have somebody on the same page and they blitz. You know,

1663
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 20: somebody gets hurt. So you know, those are the things

1664
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 20: we talk about when we're not on the same page.

1665
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 20: So I think that the operation is going to be critical.

1666
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: Like understanding every season, every team is different.

1667
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 8: Is there any lessons he took from six years ago

1668
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 8: leading a team on the road into the ash and

1669
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 8: championship team might help you this week.

1670
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: Or on Sunday.

1671
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I just you know, you're gonna have to,

1672
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 5: uh do what we talked about.

1673
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 20: You have to be able to execute in some critical situations,

1674
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 20: some third downs. There's gonna be some third downs that

1675
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 20: we're gonna have to convert, and it's gonna be some

1676
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 20: you know, stops that we're gonna have to be able

1677
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 20: to make. And then I think the turnovers and taking

1678
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 20: advantage of your out you're scoring opportunities in the red zone,

1679
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 20: you're investing the players.

1680
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: Do you lean into the opportunity of now in the

1681
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: AFS Championship game.

1682
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 13: Or do you try to keep things fairly similar to

1683
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 13: what you've done throughout the course of this season.

1684
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's similar to what we've done.

1685
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 20: I mean it's focus on, you know, what we want

1686
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 20: the team to try to do, and then offensively, defensively

1687
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 20: and special teams. Things that we think are important, go

1688
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 20: about practicing them and making sure that everybody's ready, you

1689
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 20: know what I mean, First and second down today, we'll

1690
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 20: get third down tomorrow on and on on into the

1691
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 20: red zone. So I mean we just have to uh again,

1692
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 20: I focused on embracing the preparation and enjoying this entire experience.

1693
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 18: They did for a pass rush so talented.

1694
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 20: Other than they're good men, they're good. They got speed rushers.

1695
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 20: Zach Allen I think led the league and quarterback hits

1696
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 20: and he's just athletic of a player, uh inside as

1697
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 20: you'll find. And that that's that's a tough combination when

1698
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 20: when he's coming inside and then they can't step up,

1699
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 20: and you know, Benido and and and Coop, they just

1700
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 20: they keep coming and they do a nice job blitzing.

1701
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 20: I mean, Vance does a nice job blitzing. But they

1702
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 20: have good personnel. And then when they don't, you know

1703
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 20: what I mean, they get you know, the different pressures.

1704
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 20: So you know, we'll have to be ready for for

1705
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 20: the base guys that are in there and then any

1706
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 20: pressures that are gonna come off of it, what do

1707
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 20: you see or need to work against?

1708
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: The silent counter or extra pressure you trying to deal

1709
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:05,919
Speaker 2: with that crowd.

1710
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 7: Noise and you did pretty in the sepeach this week.

1711
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 5: Can you tell me the much this year?

1712
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 9: Ruh?

1713
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 20: I mean we've worked a you know, I mean we've

1714
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 20: worked a silent count. We've worked a silent count, you

1715
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 20: know throughout the season. We've worked it when we weren't

1716
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 20: uh necessarily going on the road, just trying to figure

1717
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 20: that we would need to. Yeah, we went through that

1718
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 20: stretch of home games, you know, so I could you know,

1719
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 20: there were games that we were just focused on saying, hey,

1720
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 20: let's just do it today, just to work on it

1721
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 20: so that we can that we can have it when

1722
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 20: we need it.

1723
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 5: And then we'll certainly need it this week for ever

1724
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 5: on the roster.

1725
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 8: But do you get the feeling that the team enjolways

1726
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 8: play on the road.

1727
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 5: I mean probably when we win, they enjoy it. Yeah,

1728
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 5: I enjoy too. Made a lot of impact that made

1729
01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 5: a lot of impact plays during the playoff.

1730
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: Can you speak to performance of that group? And also

1731
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 2: it's allowed you to be more flexible schematically now that

1732
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: they're healthy.

1733
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 20: I mean, I don't think the schematics of it really

1734
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 20: changed much. I think that, you know, we have high expectations,

1735
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 20: you know, our best players have to play good. But

1736
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 20: I think that the the the dirt Ins, the Lenny T's,

1737
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 20: the tongas, those guys stepping in have really done a

1738
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,919
Speaker 20: nice job. And you know, so we have to continue

1739
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 20: to get some impact from that group, you know, like

1740
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 20: we have the last couple of weeks.

1741
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 5: Thank you much.

1742
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: All right, we're back and Vrabel is done. I guess

1743
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: for me, the two headlines are that Davis will be

1744
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: out there in a limited capacity as he works through

1745
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: the concussion protocol, and he doesn't expect Hollis Hollins to

1746
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: be out there.

1747
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it'll be you know, interesting to see if that

1748
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 8: changes as the week goes on. But yeah, probably not

1749
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 8: a great sign for his availability Sunday if he's not

1750
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 8: going to open the practice window today.

1751
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: But in sounds that he's probably not ready. Yeah, so

1752
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: if he's not, like you said, he's not.

1753
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 8: We're saying so it'd be my guess. I don't know

1754
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 8: what one day is going to do, you know, unless

1755
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 8: there's some other you know, I don't know, some personal

1756
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 8: thing or whatever reason. It's not health related. But my

1757
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 8: guess is Mike would say that that, you know, you know,

1758
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 8: he won't be out there today, but we will have

1759
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 8: him tomorrow, something like that. Yeah, you know, with Davis,

1760
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 8: I think it's probably tracking to him playing like it

1761
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 8: was with Gonzo last week. He'll be out there more

1762
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 8: than likely in a red jersey. Today is the first

1763
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 8: step of clearing through the protocol process. So that's a

1764
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 8: good sign because I think they need the secondary to

1765
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 8: be at full strength.

1766
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would love to see Hollins out. I'm

1767
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 2: not ruling him out, but yeah, I have my doubts there.

1768
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 8: I agree, and I think that there is some value

1769
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 8: to him in the run game. And you know, people

1770
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 8: have talked about they looked like they would maybe a

1771
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 8: little vulnerable to the run. You know, it would have

1772
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 8: been nice to have him available.

1773
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: Let's get Eldrick back on the phone. Yeah he's still there, Aldred, Yes,

1774
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 2: her afraid. How you doing, Paul? Good? Thanks for holding on,

1775
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: glad you.

1776
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 14: Because I love him. Grabel talked, so yeah, yeah, it's

1777
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 14: gonna be one of my suckond favorite coach, you know,

1778
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 14: but Paul are saying everybody optimism, you know. But it's

1779
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 14: that last little comment that Peyton said when he came

1780
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 14: out there and said bot Nick going and he said,

1781
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 14: don't count out stit him and he started laughing heat

1782
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 14: and didn't want one a one.

1783
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 5: You know.

1784
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 14: I understand he's a backup and he played in a

1785
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 14: couple of years and I saw that game against went

1786
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 14: with the Raiders. He played against the forty nine ers

1787
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 14: and he picked him apart. But they didn't win it,

1788
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 14: but they came close.

1789
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

1790
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 14: But only thing that the only thing that's worried me.

1791
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 14: It's how Campbell and and Will and Will got got

1792
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 14: their butt kicked these two playoff games and they got

1793
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 14: they coming up with another form over defense just like that.

1794
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 14: But they got somebody in the middle two there to

1795
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 14: come up and pose off the middle like like you said,

1796
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 14: herd Grabel said, know so, and then which call hold

1797
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 14: on to the ball. And I don't understand Henderson. You know,

1798
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 14: sometimes he has some good games and sometimes you just

1799
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 14: run with a proud instead of huoting his eyes. And

1800
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 14: my boy, Williams, I just wish you get on track

1801
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 14: for one during game. Yeah, you know, especially when you

1802
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 14: need him. Yeah, but other than that, I'm picking up.

1803
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 14: But I think it's gonna be like four oh because

1804
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 14: of the defense. Okay, so the defense calls it off

1805
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 14: the line. Just what I'm looking at, all right?

1806
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I mean I understand Hatreots score twenty eight.

1807
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm good. I think I'm good.

1808
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 8: I think we'll all be yawning in the second half

1809
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 8: waiting for the ceremony. I don't know about the trophy ceremony.

1810
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 8: All I'm gonna feel good if we get twenty eight,

1811
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 8: and I'll.

1812
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: Feel really good.

1813
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, me too, And I think they're going to I

1814
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 8: agree with Eldred. I think the offense is going to

1815
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 8: be better this week against the defense that is kind

1816
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 8: of trending the wrong way.

1817
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: All right in Denver, Thanks, thanks Eldred. Eldred checking in

1818
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: Gregory from Delaware, right sin and his subject line, Paul,

1819
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: I like these see finger wagging Patriots players. No one

1820
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: is talking enough about sounds like a YouTube.

1821
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 8: I'm going to guess.

1822
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 5: That this.

1823
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 8: I'm going to disagree with this, Okay.

1824
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give a quick shout out to

1825
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: Romandre Stevenson and Craig Woodson, as they have both been

1826
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: excellent in the last two playoff games. But I feel

1827
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 2: the media hasn't given them enough credit. Romandre has just

1828
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: been so reliable in every aspect recently, and I really

1829
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: believe Woodson is blossoming into a star before our eyes.

1830
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 8: I figured I would disagree with with those two guys

1831
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 8: have been asked about quite frequently. I believe we heard

1832
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 8: from Craig Woodson on Monday. He was one of the

1833
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 8: three players that they made available to the media. And

1834
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 8: Stevenson has been on a heater for about six weeks

1835
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 8: and he's been getting a lot of accolades. But yeah,

1836
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 8: I would agree. Stevenson I think has been an instrumental part.

1837
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 2: Of the offense. Yep, you know down the stretch, Shawn's

1838
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: and Austin. What's up?

1839
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, Have's it going good?

1840
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 24: So I had a question about you guys talked about

1841
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 24: a bit earlier in the game or in the in

1842
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 24: the show with Evan where as long as something crazy

1843
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 24: doesn't happen and there's a turnover fest, if it's a

1844
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 24: conventional game, that it's hard to see it past the

1845
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 24: Denver to win. And I agreed with that, and I

1846
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 24: thought that this basically before today's show as well. But

1847
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 24: then I started remembering the Rams Super Bowl, and there

1848
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 24: weren't a lot of turnovers in that game either. I

1849
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 24: remember it was one each for both teams. So I

1850
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 24: don't see why this game. I was wondering what your

1851
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 24: guys's thoughts are on why this game can't unfold Similarly

1852
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 24: as if the Pagers can't move the ball and STIDM

1853
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 24: doesn't turn over that much, why can't just be a stalemate.

1854
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: Right till the end? Yeah, I mean it very well

1855
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: could be.

1856
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 8: I don't think that Denver's defense is capable of doing

1857
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 8: what the Rams did. I don't think they are anywhere

1858
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 8: near as good as that Rams defense, gotcha like Aaron Donald?

1859
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to and that crew that was a

1860
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: good defense, very good defense.

1861
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 21: Right.

1862
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 24: Sure.

1863
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 8: Now again, guys, please don't Thanks to Sean, I am saying,

1864
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 8: I guess I did this to myself. I'm setting myself

1865
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 8: up to get blot again. But it's just my feelings.

1866
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 8: I don't I'm looking at Denver, right and everybody was talking,

1867
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 8: you know, and I look at the beginning of the year,

1868
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 8: you know. Twelve points, twenty three points, three points, seventeen points,

1869
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 8: eleven points, twenty four points, fifteen points, seven points. They

1870
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 8: played really well for a lot of the season, then

1871
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 8: as it kind of kicked it down the stretch, twenty

1872
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 8: six points, seventeen points, twenty six points, thirty four points,

1873
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 8: then thirteen and three against the Chiefs without Mahomes with

1874
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 8: that third string quarterback, and the Chargers without Herbert with

1875
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 8: that backup in Trey Lance. Then they faced another quarterback

1876
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 8: and it was thirty you know, against Buffalo. I just

1877
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 8: I'm not telling you that the Broncos don't have a

1878
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 8: good defense. They do have a good defense. I don't

1879
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 8: think it's anywhere near as good as the one you

1880
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 8: just saw, okay, and I know that they're similarly rated.

1881
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 2: But early success skewed it.

1882
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think they also got skewed against it,

1883
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 8: you know, like the Chris what was the kid's name

1884
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 8: from kansasy Alutican some of the asking me Ola dukein

1885
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 8: something like that, and then Trey Lance. Yeah, I mean

1886
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 8: you allowed sixteen points to those guys in two games combined,

1887
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 8: you know, like, yeah, that helps your numbers. Again, Nick Benino,

1888
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 8: really good player there. I don't think that we will

1889
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 8: be looking at this at the end and saying, wow,

1890
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 8: it was like twenty fifteen. The Broncos defense just completely

1891
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 8: dictated the way the game unfolded and dominated the Patriots.

1892
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 8: Do you remember that? That was historic defense? To me,

1893
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 8: I don't think this Broncos team has the capability of

1894
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 8: doing that.

1895
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 2: Jamie from Carlo, Ireland. When I wrote to you in

1896
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: September about the birth of my son, I never imagined

1897
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 2: we would be in the AC Championship game and favorites

1898
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: to make the Super Bowl. Do some sorry for not

1899
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: trying sooner. Just a quick note. I heard Daniel Jeremiah

1900
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: skepticism about the Patriots aggressiveness on defense as he as

1901
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 2: he loved to abuse screens or maybe the Broncos abuse screens.

1902
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: Are you guys worried about that at all? Or would

1903
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 2: you still be aggressive with Stidham under center?

1904
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 8: So I would not be as aggressive with the blitzing

1905
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 8: as they have been because I would force Jared Stidham

1906
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 8: to beat me conventionally first and show that he can.

1907
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 8: I wouldn't want to give him anything easy. If the

1908
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 8: offensive line picks up a stunt or a blitz here

1909
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 8: or there, and all of a sudden you make you

1910
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 8: give a you know, an extra second to throw then

1911
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 8: you know, more than what Herbert or Stroud had and

1912
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, you know, there were some plays

1913
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 8: in those two games especially.

1914
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: I thought the.

1915
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 8: The Houston game, where I think it was Xavier Hutchinson,

1916
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 8: who had a really rough game for the Texans, was

1917
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 8: you know kind of break can open late and then

1918
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 8: you look and you know the Stroud was, you know,

1919
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 8: either not seeing it right or hurrying a throw. I

1920
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 8: think he was affected by the pressure all day. Herbert

1921
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 8: had a couple with Lad McConkie, you know in that

1922
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 8: game too. I wouldn't want to give like, if the

1923
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 8: Broncos offensive line is as good as advertised, I wouldn't

1924
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 8: want to give Stidham any wider open windows than need

1925
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 8: to be. Like like Kevin said, you know, put some

1926
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 8: zones out there, see if he throws one to you, yeah,

1927
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 8: you know, and maybe try to play.

1928
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: It that way. Joe backs up exactly what you were

1929
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:40,839
Speaker 2: just saying earlier about the early defensive successes. Joe in Michigan,

1930
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: those who watched Denver closely, Schlareth, you know him, he's

1931
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: out there, that says Broncos d has been leaking since November,

1932
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 2: and Patriots would be able to both run and pass

1933
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 2: against them. Since November thirtieth, they are giving up twenty

1934
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: six point six points per game. Excluding Kansas City in charges,

1935
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 2: both who played backup quarterbacks. Buffalo had their way and

1936
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: only unforced errors kill them. I will take our tandem

1937
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: of running backs over Cook and his fumbles. Patriots twenty

1938
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: seven Broncos ten so match. Flarith says they've been leaking. Yeah,

1939
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.

1940
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 8: You know, it's like there was a time during this

1941
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 8: season where you know, and Fred Toucher on the Sports

1942
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 8: Hub was one of the first to start trumpeting Denver,

1943
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 8: and you know, everybody's, Oh, you don't want to face

1944
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 8: that defense. You definitely don't want to face that defense

1945
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 8: in Denver. So you know, you start to see them

1946
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 8: a little bit and you're like, this is the defense,

1947
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 8: you know, the one that Marcus Mariota went down the

1948
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 8: field at the end of regulation to send the game

1949
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 8: into overtime and then fell behind by a touchdown and

1950
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,560
Speaker 8: then went right down the field again in overtime and

1951
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 8: scored another touchdown. This this is this is that defense

1952
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 8: I'm supposed to be afraid of. Like, again, it's a

1953
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 8: good group. I don't think it's that good. I know

1954
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 8: you don't really like that phrase. They're not that good. Mean,

1955
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 8: it's like they stink. That I'm not saying they stink,

1956
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 8: saying they're not elite.

1957
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Tim and Boston gonna use some logic on us here, Paul,

1958
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: the Chargers defense is better than the Patriots defense, and

1959
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: Drake may play better than Justin Herbert.

1960
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 8: I don't think the Chargers defense is better than the

1961
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 8: Patriots defense right now.

1962
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: Reject the premise the Texans defense is better than the

1963
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Patriots defense and Drake may play better than c. J.

1964
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Stroud that I would agree with you.

1965
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 8: I think the Texas defense was better than the Patriots

1966
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 8: defense on Sunday, and I thought the Patriots defense was

1967
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 8: outstanding Sunday.

1968
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: The fumbles have to go. But your quarterback outplayed the

1969
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: opposing quarterback against a better defense, and that's a big

1970
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 2: part of why you won.

1971
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 8: So no, it's not the defense is why you won

1972
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 8: both of those games.

1973
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 5: Yep.

1974
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 8: Your quarterback outplayed the other team's quarterback, who both played

1975
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 8: really really poorly.

1976
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: So that's a low lower quarterback didn't stink like their

1977
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:53,560
Speaker 2: quarterback like.

1978
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 8: The performances of the Patriots defense and the Houston defense

1979
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 8: were much closer than than what CJ. Stroud did compared

1980
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 8: to any other quarterback. Like that was bad. Four interceptions

1981
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 8: in the first half of a playoff game. I don't

1982
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 8: think it ever happened before, right, Yeah, I mean to

1983
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 8: say that May outplayed him.

1984
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had three more plays, but I mean.

1985
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 8: I would say that. Yes, it's true, like he outplayed him,

1986
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 8: but he didn't play well. Do you know what I'm saying. Yep,

1987
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 8: he didn't play well in either game. Really, it's hard

1988
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 8: to read this one.

1989
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: Cameron in Dallas, Brady had fifty nine fumbles in its

1990
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 2: first six seasons in the NFL. After that, it took

1991
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 2: another twelve years for Brady to reach fifty nine fumbles.

1992
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 2: What can May do to reduce the number of fumbles

1993
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: where gloves like Brady to flate the ball for better

1994
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: grip like Brady. He's joking, we need to blow yes,

1995
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: he said, I'm Jersey, Yes, we need to blow out

1996
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: Denver to leave no doubt in anyone's mind that bo

1997
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 2: Nicks would never have won the game for them. Patriots

1998
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 2: thirty one, Denver thirteen.

1999
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna set you up for disappointment no

2000
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 8: matter what. There's no amount of points they can win

2001
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 8: this game by, and to get anybody who thinks the

2002
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 8: Broncos would have won with bow Nicks to change their mind.

2003
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's not gonna happen. Right, They're gonna use

2004
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: They're gonna hold that against us, But don't worry about it.

2005
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 8: I don't know why that would bother you. We'll be

2006
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 8: in the super Bowl while you're in Santa Clara. I

2007
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 8: don't know why you you know, like you would continue

2008
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 8: to listen to that kind of noise and have it

2009
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 8: affect you, but you do.

2010
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 2: You. Let's see quig and taunting a few quick points.

2011
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: What a difference in the year makes. Who would have

2012
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: thought would be in this position? Nobody's made that point before. Uh,

2013
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: it's important that people it's important that people stop criticizing

2014
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Will Campbell. He is a twenty two year old playing

2015
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 2: through a knee injury on his plant leg. Since he's

2016
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 2: clearly not one hundred percent, Josh needs to provide him

2017
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 2: with some additional help. And finally, we have not lost

2018
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 2: the game this year when Milton, Williams, Splaine, and Gonzales

2019
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: have been in the lineup together. We haven't also lost

2020
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 2: a game with Drake May under center. Well, that's not true.

2021
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: We lost two three games. Well, how could you possibly

2022
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: have said that? I don't know.

2023
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 8: So the helping Will Campbell thing, I'm just telling you

2024
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 8: what Will Campbell said after the game.

2025
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:24,560
Speaker 2: Did you see this?

2026
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 8: Bill Campbell felt like the help hurt him, like he

2027
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 8: felt like he was dependent on it. No, he felt

2028
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 8: like he didn't He didn't play as well when he

2029
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 8: was getting the help. And I brought up the possibility

2030
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 8: that he's not at one hundred percent right now. I

2031
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 8: said that yesterday. I don't I don't say that as

2032
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:48,560
Speaker 8: an excuse. If you're out there playing, you have to

2033
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 8: play like this whole twenty two year old rookie thing

2034
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 8: on a bad like he's playing so well, you have

2035
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 8: to evaluate how he plays right, and he hasn't played well.

2036
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Matt writes in about the fund again, he's wondering if

2037
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 2: Drake should try the offhand glove that Brady ended up adopting.

2038
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: Tom had thirty six fumbles in his first three years,

2039
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 2: so it seems like it was an issue for him

2040
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 2: as well until he figured it out.

2041
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I would say that the fumbles that May

2042
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 8: has in general are not like glovery related there when

2043
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 8: he's trying to hold onto the ball and he gets

2044
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 8: it knocked out of his hands while he's throwing. Do

2045
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying? Right, he hasn't had a

2046
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 8: lot Like he brings the ball down and puts two

2047
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 8: hands on it and he gets knocked out of his hands.

2048
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 8: He's had him when he's trying to extend plays and

2049
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 8: you know, like the case on Sunday with one of

2050
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 8: them when he drifted over to the right side and

2051
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 8: was getting pushed into as he threw it and the

2052
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 8: guy knocked it out from behind. Like, I don't think

2053
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 8: gloves are going to be the savior there. Now, I

2054
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 8: do agree that is something that you can improve, and

2055
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 8: Brady did all the people that had given you, Brady

2056
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 8: number a lot of that hocket awareness, right. But that's

2057
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 8: to me where it starts and kind of ends. It's

2058
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,679
Speaker 8: not about gloves.

2059
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 2: Another fan club notice big Facebook group called Patriots Nation

2060
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Natty and Ati in Cincinnati. Nice meets in Cincinnati every

2061
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 2: weekend for the games. You have to join the group

2062
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: to get the address.

2063
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 16: Uh.

2064
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 2: The admin is from mass and makes a big metal

2065
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 2: jug of clam chowder. So if you're in Cincinnati check

2066
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: out the Facebook group called Patriots Nation, Natty and Ati

2067
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: and find out where they're meeting. If you want to

2068
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 2: be with the stuff, good stuff, like minded Patriots fans. Okay,

2069
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 2: let's get back to the phones. Let's go to Darren

2070
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 2: in Delaware. What's up, Darren, Darren you're there.

2071
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I'm right here.

2072
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 5: Hello you guys.

2073
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 4: Call Fred.

2074
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 17: I've called several times in the past. We had some

2075
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 17: of my kind of converse stations. I haven't called Sister

2076
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 17: Brady years. I actually let somebody get to me, like

2077
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 17: one of the other callers for emailers told me I

2078
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 17: was in the Patriots saying lost my mind. I don't

2079
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 17: know if you guys remember I said I missed Andy,

2080
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 17: and now I just know I missed the arguments.

2081
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 25: Yeah, now that we're back and we're.

2082
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 17: Going to winning another Super Bowl, I was just thinking

2083
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 17: eventually they're going to say that Drake me is better

2084
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 17: than Tom Brady because he'll have this sting that Tom

2085
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 17: Brady never did. I really just let you guys, wanted

2086
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 17: to talk to you, And what do you think about

2087
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 17: what I asked you?

2088
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Thank you? Okay, what if he is?

2089
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, do you rule it out? Drake May is better

2090
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 8: than Tom Brady Man. Obviously, obviously we need twenty years

2091
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 8: to wait. But yeah, I mean, like I'm not a

2092
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 8: big thing on like we'll never see another fill in

2093
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 8: the blank. Again, I'm not big on those.

2094
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: In terms of just raw talent, he's better. But what

2095
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: we don't know is does he have it up here?

2096
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 2: Does he have that?

2097
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that does he have consistency?

2098
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Consistency, but that you know, I don't know what. I

2099
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: don't know what word you'd use to describe it, but

2100
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to lose. And he was so

2101
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 2: good when the stage was the biggest in the moments

2102
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: were the biggest. We don't know that yet from Drake

2103
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: May and what Brady had we had never seen before.

2104
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 2: So there's been more. I mean, you know it's going

2105
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 2: to be you know, like wise, he's he's got amazing.

2106
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 8: But I'm just going to talk about what he's done.

2107
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 8: And again, we need twenty years before we can, you know,

2108
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,440
Speaker 8: aptly make a comparison. But tell me six the offense

2109
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 8: that let's say the Patriots win these two games and

2110
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 8: they win the super Bowl. Okay, the offense has had

2111
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 8: a much bigger imprint on this title. In his second

2112
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 8: year as a starter than it did in No. One

2113
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 8: with Brady. Now, I'm not telling you Brady didn't have

2114
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 8: anything to do with that title, but he was great

2115
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 8: when when he had to be. He was great with

2116
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 8: games on the line and comebacks and whatnot. But that

2117
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 8: was a defensive oriented team and that's how they won

2118
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 8: every game.

2119
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 5: Right.

2120
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: But at the end of the game and against the Rams, no, no,

2121
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: he was leading that drive. There was a lot of times.

2122
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 8: But the reason why he was able to lead the

2123
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 8: drive is because the Rams only had seventeen points, right, yep,

2124
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 8: you know. So I would say the offense has been

2125
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 8: a more important part of this team's success than it wasn't.

2126
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 8: Oh one, that doesn't mean he's better than Brady. But again,

2127
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 8: I don't like saying, well, no, there'll never be another

2128
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 8: Tom Brady again. Yeah, they probably will be, right, just

2129
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 8: like no one will ever do what the Patriots did

2130
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 8: for Trent. Yeah, someone probably will. Like it's just the

2131
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 8: way sports work.

2132
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 2: People probably said no one's going to go under, you know,

2133
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: do what Montana did, right, and then Brady outdid him.

2134
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, So there's always going to be It just

2135
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: depends on how long you have to wait.

2136
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 5: For it.

2137
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and we may not see it right, you know,

2138
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 8: in our lifetimes. You know, in what I put Drake

2139
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 8: May's odds being very good to surpass Brady.

2140
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:07,879
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't.

2141
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 8: I think what Brady did was different. It just was,

2142
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 8: you know, seven titles.

2143
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:21,799
Speaker 2: We shouldn't go uh this show without mentioning how tightly

2144
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,799
Speaker 2: shut the window is now in Buffalo.

2145
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 8: So I'm with Fred.

2146
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 5: Now.

2147
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 8: There was a press conference in Buffalo this morning with

2148
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 8: Terry Pagoula, the owner of the Bills, and Brandon Bean,

2149
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 8: the charlatan that is, cozied up to said owner and

2150
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 8: somehow convinced the owner that the Bills had a lot

2151
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 8: of talent this year, nothing to see here, and that

2152
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 8: it was all that idiot coach's fault. And I now

2153
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 8: agree with Fred that that kind of dysfunction window is shut.

2154
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 8: I'm with Fred.

2155
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 2: Wow, and I'm not it only took ten years only.

2156
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 8: I'm not doing that for a fact. I'm not trying

2157
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,799
Speaker 8: to you know, I have a big, you know, funny

2158
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 8: moment here. If you haven't heard, if you haven't seen

2159
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 8: some of the stuff that came out of Buffalo this morning,

2160
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,759
Speaker 8: and you're a Patriots fan and you love the shaden

2161
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,799
Speaker 8: freud of the rivals sort of you know, falling apart.

2162
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 8: Do yourself a favor and spend five minutes looking up

2163
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 8: some of the quotes that came out of bills the

2164
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 8: bills today, and they will make you feel better about

2165
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 8: the Patriots and where you are and where the Bills

2166
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 8: are likely headed. You know they were. They basically said

2167
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 8: that Sean McDermott was the reason why they drafted keyon Coleman,

2168
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 8: you know, one of those things instead of the three

2169
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Speaker 8: other options they had that they traded out of spots for.

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Speaker 15: All.

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01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:51,480
Speaker 8: All that they kept saying was Pagola kept taking bean'side

2172
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 8: and saying they had the talent to win. And I'm

2173
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 8: sorry if you watched football this year and you thought

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01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 8: Buffalo was anywhere near as talented this year as they

2175
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 8: have been the last five, you just don't know what

2176
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 8: you've watched. And somehow the general manager convinced the owner

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01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 8: that that was the coach's fault, that they didn't have

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01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 8: the options to go to. I just astounded by it,

2179
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 8: like it was some eye opening stuff. It's the age

2180
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 8: old thing. The GM sits next to the owner while

2181
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 8: the games are going on, and every time something goes bad,

2182
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 8: he's there to tell you, yeah, he's not using the

2183
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 8: players right, or he's not getting the most out of

2184
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 8: that guy, or this should really be better. I'm telling you,

2185
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 8: it's the definition of one of those dysfunctional situations. And

2186
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 8: it's not they're going to be in trouble. They're going

2187
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 8: to be in trouble unless they turn around, they spend

2188
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 8: some money in the offseason and they improve that roster

2189
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 8: dramatically because they're not good enough right now. If they

2190
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 8: think they're good enough and they sit on their hands

2191
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 8: and they just think a new coach is going to

2192
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 8: get them father, it ain't gonna happen.

2193
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,919
Speaker 2: I want to get a billboard in Buffalo.

2194
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 8: I will open the window.

2195
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:05,719
Speaker 2: Ball it's going to be is a big, bare ass

2196
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: with a Patriots logo on it, because that's what the

2197
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 2: Bills are going to be looking at for the next

2198
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 2: ten years.

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 8: I will open the window based on an offseason that

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01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 8: is productive. If they want to do what the Patriots

2201
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 8: did last offseason and sign a half dozen or so

2202
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 8: quality free agents, I'll sit here and say, hey, Brandon

2203
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 8: bean I was I was wrong. He recognized that they

2204
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 8: didn't have the talent what I heard today was two

2205
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 8: guys that think that they were good enough to go

2206
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 8: further than they did in these playoffs. They had one

2207
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 8: guy who was good enough to go further than he did,

2208
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 8: and unfortunately for Josh Allen, he picked the wrong day

2209
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 8: to have a bad game. But and it's on him.

2210
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 8: They lost the game because of Josh Allen. Like, I'm

2211
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 8: if that's that's why they lost. That's unfair that like

2212
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 8: one guy, but the only Josh.

2213
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 5: That's it.

2214
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 8: That's no reason why they.

2215
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 2: Were in the game. So there you go. There's your

2216
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 2: Bills update. So we can all blah the Bills, Bill

2217
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: and Santa Monica. I've got another reason to be nervous.

2218
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, there was an article about Bill

2219
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: Belichick's terrible twenty twenty five. In there, they decided the

2220
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 2: resurgence of Mac Jones as a quarterback that Bill couldn't

2221
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 2: develop and now looks fairly capable. What if Stidham has

2222
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: an amazing game and continues Belichick's horrible year into twenty

2223
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 2: twenty six, could someone please hand me that straw. I'm

2224
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 2: having a hard time grasping it. Okay, so I don't

2225
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 2: I guess he's yeah, I mean, I do know that

2226
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 2: when Stidham was here, a lot of people are like, hey,

2227
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: this kid's not bad. And then he had some incidents

2228
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 2: in the preseason with can you name a player.

2229
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 8: That the pick injurytriots media didn't say was good? Oh yeah,

2230
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 8: I mean, like, how long did it take before people

2231
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 8: said Nikhil Harry?

2232
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: Was it?

2233
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 9: Not like this guy was?

2234
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 2: They drafted him in the fourth round.

2235
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, so he's a jag.

2236
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 2: He's a Day three pick, well, fourth round for a

2237
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: quarterback on a team with Tom Brady. You have to

2238
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 2: see something in him.

2239
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 8: No, they were looking for a backup developmental guy.

2240
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Speaker 2: Okay, they took him, all right, they felt he could

2241
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 2: be developed, right, but they didn't develop him. They put

2242
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: him in the Donal.

2243
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 8: Who else didn't develop them? Josh McDaniels, Well, he had him.

2244
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, and he couldn't start there either.

2245
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,959
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, maybe he's a little better.

2246
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 8: Than I agree with you email grasping that straws.

2247
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a little better than people think. We don't know.

2248
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 2: We'll find out seven years. We're gonna find out on Sunday,

2249
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 2: seven years. Sean's and venture, what's up?

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01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 25: Sewan I have a few things, Fred, So you know,

2251
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 25: no coach outside of Denver knows Jarret did him better

2252
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 25: than Josh mcdowns. Like you just said, he had him

2253
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 25: in Vegas as well, so you know he might be

2254
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 25: in the top forty of NFL quarterbacks. I see the

2255
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 25: Patriots stopping the run again and forcing them into obvious

2256
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 25: passing situations, which will favor New England. Now you were

2257
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 25: talking about how the Patriots built the AFC with all

2258
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 25: these teams changing their head coach, and you know what's

2259
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 25: going on in Buffalo and all this craziness. But you know,

2260
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 25: Rabel might be the coach of the year. You know,

2261
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 25: so many teams see the Pats quick turnaround and want

2262
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 25: to copy that approach. But the real fool's gold is

2263
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 25: thinking you can also achieve that same success because it's

2264
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 25: more than just hiring the best head coach. You also

2265
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,760
Speaker 25: need to hire excellent experience assistant coaches. All your free

2266
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 25: agent acquisitions, hit all eleven draft picks, make the team

2267
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 25: with some.

2268
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 8: Big You're making it out to be way different than

2269
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 8: it is, like a lot of teams do it like that.

2270
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 8: The NFL is set up in a way that this

2271
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 8: happens all the time, and it happened all the time

2272
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 8: this year. It happened in other places this year. Yeah,

2273
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 8: like you can do it. I mean, Washington just did

2274
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 8: it two years ago. Jacksonville just did it this year,

2275
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 8: like the Patriots have done it, the Bears. The Bears

2276
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 8: have done it. Like it's it's the way it's set up.

2277
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 8: I agree with the owners for thinking it can happen,

2278
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 8: because it happens all the time. That's like, if you

2279
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 8: have a guy that you don't think is the guy,

2280
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 8: what you need to do is make a change and

2281
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,640
Speaker 8: find a guy that you think is the guy. Like,

2282
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 8: it's not easy. I'm not telling you these coaches grow

2283
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 8: on trees.

2284
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 2: They don't.

2285
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 8: There's a lot of guys that fail. But no one

2286
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 8: was talking about Liam Cohen last year at this time.

2287
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 8: No one was saying, oh, Jacksonville really made this quality hot.

2288
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 8: But all of a sudden, he took him from worse

2289
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 8: to first or third to worst to first. Yeah, no,

2290
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 8: it was to this extent.

2291
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 5: Yeah it was.

2292
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 8: Chicago did the same thing, worse to first.

2293
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 25: But four wins two years in a row to like

2294
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 25: fourteen wins that I don't think that's ever happened.

2295
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 8: To fourteen wins. No, but four wins to twelve wins

2296
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 8: just happened. I mean, is that not the same?

2297
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears were the number one seed in

2298
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: the NFC, so it can happen. It's happened. It happened

2299
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 2: last year with the Commanders, you know so, and the

2300
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 2: league gets set up that way. But I do agree

2301
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Sean a little bit that you know, teams do look

2302
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: at whoever is the team that had success, and it's

2303
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 2: a copycat league.

2304
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 8: Correct, It's a very copycat lee and they try to

2305
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 8: do the same kind of style.

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2307
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 8: Now, what I say for you, Sean, is they think

2308
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 8: it's easy. It ain't easy to have Drake May.

2309
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 7: Oh no.

2310
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 8: So that's that's the part that you know what, geez,

2311
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 8: we got this young coach, we got this guy that

2312
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 8: does everything like Rabel does, and then we went on

2313
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 8: and we got you know, a half dozen really good

2314
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 8: free agents. Why isn't it working because you don't have

2315
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 8: Drake May.

2316
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 2: That's why.

2317
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 25: Yeah, you need that quarterback too. Now, the question I

2318
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 25: have is the Patriots are the only team undefeated on

2319
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 25: the road this season. Now, does that give them confidence

2320
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 25: going into Denver? Or is the playoffs just completely different

2321
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 25: than you throw up.

2322
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 2: I think it does because I've heard more than one

2323
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: player say, you know, we're taking it on the road

2324
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 2: where we've had to say, you know, Drake May said it.

2325
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 2: I think there's success us in the road. Does give

2326
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 2: them confidence to go on the road and do it again? Right?

2327
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2328
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 25: Boco, Pat, all right?

2329
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 8: Thanks Sean, Thanks Sean.

2330
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 2: Yep, Let's go to Rhino in North Carolina. What's up Rhino?

2331
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my pall sure. I've appreciated

2332
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 21: this discussion about kind of ownership and other teams around

2333
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 21: the league, and a lot of this stuff with the

2334
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 21: Bills has made.

2335
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 7: Me appreciate what we've had here even more. Obviously in

2336
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 7: the past, Robert Kraft made the bold decision to move

2337
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 7: on from Pete Carroll, who's been a very successful coach

2338
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 7: in this league, goes with Bill Belichick, loses the first

2339
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 7: round pick to do that, and then has the kind

2340
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 7: of boldness to move on from Belichick and then do

2341
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 7: what a lot of other owners don't in not compounding

2342
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 7: a mistake with the hiring of Drawn Mao to move

2343
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 7: on to Mike Rabel And that's created a lot of

2344
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,919
Speaker 7: the things that we have here, and I'm very grateful

2345
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 7: for that. And obviously the Patriots had been fortunate and

2346
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 7: I'm hoping that continues because as we see, a lot

2347
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 7: of these other well established franchises are in this kind

2348
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 7: of period of flocks.

2349
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

2350
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 8: Absolutely, yeah, I mean, certainly, the decision to trade draft

2351
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 8: picks for Bill Belichick is as risky a choice as

2352
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 8: you can make.

2353
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh, he was mildly criticized at the time.

2354
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 8: I think that was as bold a move as you

2355
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 8: could possibly make. I don't want I'm not diminishing anything else.

2356
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 8: I think the other stuff, to me is stuff that

2357
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 8: most teams would do, like when you have a situation

2358
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 8: like last year here. And I'm not even talking about

2359
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 8: winning four games. I'm talking about the dysfunction that was

2360
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 8: in that locker room, the players constantly talking about how

2361
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 8: poorly coach they were. I think a lot of owners

2362
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 8: would have said, I made a mistake here. I got

2363
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 8: to do something about this.

2364
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 2: I got to move on. Yep, I really do.

2365
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 8: And I'm not trying to tell you that makes it

2366
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 8: easy what Robert Craft did or anything like that.

2367
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: It ain't.

2368
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 8: It was an easy for all those draft picks. That's

2369
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 8: something I don't think a lot of teams. I don't

2370
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:13,640
Speaker 8: think a lot of owners around the league would have

2371
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 8: said Bill Belichick is worth those draft picks. I got

2372
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 8: to make this move. That one, to me is hall

2373
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 8: of Fame worthy. Yeah, that's why he's a Hall of

2374
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 8: Fame owner.

2375
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 2: But hopefully Chad in La, the danger zone here in

2376
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,799
Speaker 2: this game is mile High Stadium, cold weather altitude those fans.

2377
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 2: This game is by no means the lock, no matter

2378
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 2: who's the quarterback. And wondering if Paul is rethinking his

2379
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,520
Speaker 2: take on May being the reason reasons for the Patriots'

2380
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 2: success now with the playoffs playing out the way it is,

2381
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Coach Mike is the creative director of this organization. Without

2382
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 2: that level of stability, how it May be doing, he

2383
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 2: couldn't handle all this this early in his career, in

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Speaker 2: my uneducated opinion. So does the same go for Bill

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01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 2: and Brady? Thoughts talk amongst yourself. So the early success

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 2: of Drake May when they do the Dynasty documentary, will

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Speaker 2: we'll Rabel, you know, get the credit for that early

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01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: success or will it be all Drake May.

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Speaker 8: I ain't making that mistake again. I'm gonna give it

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01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 8: a Drake May.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that Mike Rabel's not a good coach.

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01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 8: He's a great coach. He's had a great year, let's

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01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 8: put it that way. He's had a great year coaching.

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01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 5: Yep.

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01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 8: But I went down this road. I gave all that

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01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 8: credit to Belichick and I was wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 8: I'm not doing that again.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jay and Indy. Rabel said he's willing to sacrifice

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01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 2: his man part for a super Bowl on the Bust

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01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 2: and with the Boys podcast? Are you mentally ready to

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 2: sacrifice yours for a super Bowl?

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01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 16: Now?

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01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: I that's six and mine not work out well anymore anyway,

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01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 2: So maybe I would, So.

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01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 8: Freddy, let's go to Dan. I'm not quite prepared to

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01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 8: do that.

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01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dan and Daytona.

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01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 8: What's up Dandy Daytona.

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01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 2: Day?

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01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 5: There he is.

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01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: He gets drowned up by the cars going around what's

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01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: up the ground? Okay?

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01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 19: Deep an eye on and keeps going into the grounds,

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01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 19: dumping trash into the research.

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01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 2: Okay, is that it all?

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01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 8: We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 2: I think he just he might have just yelled at us.

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01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, did you hear what he said? He

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01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 2: said something and then he dropped them.

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01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 8: I think he was talking to somebody else.

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01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 2: Oh, well, he dropped.

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01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 8: I'm not sure he knew we were on.

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01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh really he was on. I should say. Okay, Breton

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01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 2: Lemonster wants to know, he said, Fred, let me know

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01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 2: when you start the GoFundMe page where I can contribute

2428
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 2: to the billboard in Buffalo. We'll do. All right, you're

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01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: gonna do that. Yeah, we're gonna get a big bear ast.

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01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 5: You got to do it.

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01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have. This is what they're going to be

2432
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 2: staring at for the rest of their wives. Tell me

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01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 2: how it tastes. Yep, all right, we're gonna end now. Yeah.

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01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Evan, unlike Deuce, Evan doesn't come back

2435
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 2: from the locker. No, he doesn't. He gets immersed. He

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01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: loses himself in there.

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01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 8: Like he he just basically stands around Drake's locker and

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01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 8: like just like stares at him, like, you know, find something,

2439
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 8: you know, the whole meme, you know, find someone who

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01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 8: looks at you the way Evan looks at Drake.

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01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 2: May Yep, all right, we will be back tomorrow on Thursday.

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01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 5: Have no fear.

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01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 2: We'll be wrapping up the week and doing our picks.

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01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 2: For the AC Championship game. We got to hurry because

2445
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: we've got two big games that we have to pick,

2446
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 2: two big games.

2447
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 8: And watts and praise with DUIs. Hopefully we get him

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01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 8: back to.

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01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 2: My I know, I don't know. I hope. This is

2450
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 2: like one of those twenty four hour bugs. All right,

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01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow.

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01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 4: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 26: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get

2455
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 26: your podcasts. Also make sure to fall on the New

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 26: England Patriots YouTube channel see this show and everything else

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 26: we do here at the Patrons.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot