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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what we will get to the how

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Speaker 3: should I say this? The the page two story of

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Speaker 3: to a tongue of I loo At getting paid Jordan

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Speaker 3: Love getting paid on page one would be metal at

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Speaker 3: the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: Did you see the opening ceremony where Go Jira, a

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Speaker 3: French metal band is playing metal live in front of

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Speaker 3: it just a spool of this. This is unbelievable here

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Speaker 3: geting Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidd Just realize what this means?

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Speaker 4: The metal?

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable here.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they were looking for a metal band but

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Speaker 4: they miss Oh they were looking for M E.

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Speaker 5: D A L.

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Speaker 6: They just.

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Speaker 4: They missed by one letter and they got Gojira.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're off for it. Man spell check Olympics. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for misspelling.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was amazing, our guy man off the top rope.

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Speaker 2: This is unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: Also, just two minutes into the show, our executive producer

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Speaker 3: over here, our technical producer, I should say, Chris Purfect,

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Speaker 3: come on join the party.

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Speaker 2: The water is great here.

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Speaker 7: No fantastic Gojira performance.

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Speaker 8: That was actually I think like a French Revolution tune

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Speaker 8: they covered with like beheaded Marie Antoinette's in the Wild

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Speaker 8: and they had like these red smoke flares that looked

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Speaker 8: like blood from an execution. It was extremely metal, and

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Speaker 8: that's why I'm proud to announce All Day today here

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Speaker 8: on Fox Sports Radio and Olympic soundtrack because we got everything.

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Speaker 8: We got metal, we had trance, we had rap, we

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Speaker 8: had Celine Dion with like incredibly moving performance after what

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Speaker 8: she's going through Lady Gaga earlier, like they brought the

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Speaker 8: house on music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I was just watching it and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: am I hearing this right?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, is this could it be? Is it metal?

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Speaker 8: Metal on the main stage on mainstream first time metal

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Speaker 8: has ever been at the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: That was so creet.

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Speaker 4: I dig it.

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Speaker 9: You know, hey, we're in We're in a diverse society

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Speaker 9: now all all music is welcome.

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Speaker 2: Let me just echo what you guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure will say Lamb of God for Super Bowl halftime, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: With Destiny's Child actually there.

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Speaker 7: To that argument was always Metallica. But we can go

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Speaker 7: Lamb of God.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'll I mean, what are they doing a slayer, I'll

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Speaker 3: settle for Metallica at the Bullet's fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we get to the main.

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Speaker 3: Chorus over here, of course, which is quarterbacks getting paid

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Speaker 3: to a tongue of I LOOA got a huge deal

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Speaker 3: four years, two hundred and twelve million dollars, and then

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Speaker 3: on the same day, of course, he got upstaged. The

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Speaker 3: Packers gave Jordan Love two hundred and twenty million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: So that ties Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence for the

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Speaker 3: most average money paid per year, which is fifty five

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Speaker 3: million dollars for Jordan Love. Here's the simple question which

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Speaker 3: deal is riskier? Is it Toa's deal with the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: start with you Rich, what do you think which deal

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Speaker 3: is riskier?

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Speaker 4: Well, just based on injury history, I would say tua tua.

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Speaker 4: I think like when you when you really think about

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Speaker 4: what he does for the Miami Dolphins offense versus what

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Speaker 4: Jordan Love does for the Packers offense, think to yourself,

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Speaker 4: how many people could do what Jordan Love does in

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Speaker 4: the NFL versus how many people could do what Tua does.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot more players and I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying many more, but there's more players that could

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Speaker 4: do with Tua does versus Jordan Love. Jordan Love has

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Speaker 4: certain gifts that.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to be able to replicate.

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Speaker 4: With his size and his athleticism and that unbelievable arm strength.

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Speaker 6: That guy's got a howitzer for an arm.

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Speaker 4: You're really going to be able to do and portray

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Speaker 4: this offense in certain ways that you won't be able

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Speaker 4: to with Tua. Now, it doesn't mean that two is

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Speaker 4: a limited quarterback. I think he's a very talented quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that the Dolphins made a poor choice

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Speaker 4: either have to say to yourself, look, we have a

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Speaker 4: you want to be one of these teams who are searching.

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Speaker 4: You know, look at the Raiders. How comfortable is their

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Speaker 4: how comfortable is their situation? You look at the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: You pay that money, and yeah, even though it's riskier

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Speaker 4: than Jordan Love, it's the only thing in my opinion, they.

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Speaker 6: Should have or could have done at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of them are pretty risky if

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Speaker 2: you ask me that.

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 9: The thing that stood out to me yesterday. And I

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Speaker 9: know that there's you know, restructures and all types of

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Speaker 9: things that you can do to make the salary cat

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Speaker 9: massage the cat massage the number. But the fact that

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Speaker 9: Patrick Mahomes is not even on the top ten of

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Speaker 9: the list of the top ten paid quarterbacks this year

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Speaker 9: is crazy, you know.

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Speaker 2: And the list just keeps growing and growing and growing.

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Speaker 9: Now it's Love and to you know, on that list

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Speaker 9: and Mahomes is just sitting there is the old you know,

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Speaker 9: pinching pennies is the eleventh highest paid quarterback in the

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Speaker 9: restructured the deal so the Chiefs could.

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Speaker 2: Go sign more.

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Speaker 9: That's the least risky of them all right, Like all

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Speaker 9: of these quarterback contracts now are risky.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way that the position is structured.

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Speaker 9: There's no way around it until they figure out a

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Speaker 9: special salary cap just for the quarterbacks, or unless they

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Speaker 9: continue to raise it to the point where it's not

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Speaker 9: as punitive, but it's putitive to sign your quarterback right now.

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Speaker 9: Like that's just it's it's almost like a penalty. It's

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Speaker 9: it's it's a positive because you get the quarterback, but

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Speaker 9: it puts you at a disadvantage. Both of these contracts

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Speaker 9: point in the near future. I don't know when, but

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Speaker 9: at some point the Dolphins and the Packers are going to

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Speaker 9: And yeah, and that's that's that's tough. So I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about that many times where.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's uh, the money that you're paying a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: If you're not getting production that is equal to that

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Speaker 2: World of hurt. And that's the thing where I thought, Jared,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: They're both very risky deals, I believe, And to break

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Speaker 3: the tie, which deal is riskier?

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Speaker 2: I actually believe.

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Speaker 3: It's Jordan Love right here, right now, heading into the

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Speaker 3: twenty four season, because yes, I know the injury history

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Speaker 3: with Tua Tongueavai looa, but he was upright all last season.

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Speaker 3: And the thing with Jordan Love, I have half a

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Speaker 2: But it's half a season.

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Speaker 3: I've got eight regular season games, nine including the playoff

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Speaker 3: win against the Cowboys, of really good play, and we

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Speaker 3: just made him the highest paid quarterback in NFL history, Right, Like,

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Speaker 3: you start looking closer at the second half of the

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Speaker 2: The Chargers elite, like no, no, right, you.

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Speaker 3: Start looking at this and it's like, Okay, I know

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Speaker 3: he threw thirty two touchdown passes, but there was a

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Speaker 3: his rookie season. And it's not like Herbert has gone

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Speaker 3: completely downhill. But I hear more negative comments about Herbert,

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Speaker 3: and you've got to win a playoff game than I

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Speaker 3: hear positive ones. So I just think with Jordan Love

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Speaker 3: in particular, I just wanted more information. This is like

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like it could work out fine, but

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Speaker 3: I just need more information to make that type of commitment.

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Speaker 4: I think the information that the Packers have is so

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Speaker 4: much different than the information we have because they've gotten

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Speaker 4: at practice. Now, don't get me wrong, you got to

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Speaker 4: make that translate to the game field, and I think

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Speaker 4: overwhelmingly he did, and he did it enough that they

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Speaker 4: were comfortable with the contract of this size. And also

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Speaker 4: you got to remember where we are in time and space.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of teams that are QB

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Speaker 6: The Packers aren't one of those teams.

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Speaker 4: And if you look around the conference.

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Speaker 6: You know, you look at the AFC, it's just loaded

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Speaker 4: You were just talking about Justin Herbert, Well, he he's

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Speaker 4: in direct competition with you know, Lamar Jackson and Patrick

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Speaker 4: about Tua, you think about I don't know if Deshaun

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Speaker 4: Watson's ever going to creep out of the cellar of

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Speaker 4: the NFL in terms of quarterback play again, but if

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Speaker 4: he returns to what he looked like or anything near

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Speaker 4: what he looked like with the Texans, he plays in

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Speaker 4: the AFC at a missing name Sjoe Burrow in the

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Speaker 4: NFC side. You know, look, Jared Goff is a very

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. And Matthew Stafford's obviously insanely talented. You know,

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Speaker 4: Brock Purdy, he's he's burst onto the scene. But I mean,

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Speaker 4: besides Jordan Love, who else are you really contending within

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Speaker 4: that conference? I mean, Baker Mayfield. I mean, once you

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Speaker 4: difficult to start naming quarterbacks. You're really afraid of in

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Speaker 4: that conference, and so signing Jordan Love again from a

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Speaker 4: risk assessment standpoint, you know, in the NFC, if that's

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Speaker 4: who you're competing with in the postseason. I think the

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Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers did pretty well for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 9: I mean this is rent, Like, like we've read, this

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Speaker 9: is millennial rent. All the millennials out there that are

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Speaker 9: right now because they don't have any savings because they

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Speaker 9: have student loans.

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Speaker 2: This is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 9: It's a punitive payment every month that you have to

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Speaker 2: So Wow, Hard knocks off season with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: The Giants tried to replace Daniel Jones their quarterback here

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Speaker 4: the best position to win, and it's my job to

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Speaker 4: go out there and make sure that I'm a part

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Speaker 4: of that solution.

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Speaker 6: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: But deep down inside, like I mentioned earlier, this is

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Speaker 4: a confidence driven position. And there's no questioning that Daniel Jones,

450
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Speaker 4: if he saw that, if he heard that, if somebody

451
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Speaker 4: sent him that clip, his confidence took a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a Bloh, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I agree with you, first of all.

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Speaker 9: Second of all, I think they talk to him about

455
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Speaker 9: it too. Like my guess is, and I've watched every

456
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Speaker 9: second of this Hard Knocks, I don't think it's a

457
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Speaker 9: very It's a different Hard Knocks, right. It doesn't have

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Speaker 9: the drama and the intrigue of training camp and who's

459
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Speaker 9: getting cut. It's almost like sometimes they play out like

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Speaker 9: a murder mystery, like who's done it?

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Speaker 2: You know, who's walking into the room getting cut. Now

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Speaker 2: it's a.

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Speaker 9: Little bit more Hunt for Red October kind of vibes,

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Speaker 9: where it's, you know, Shane in his war room kind

465
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Speaker 9: of cooking things up. I like it a lot. I

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Speaker 9: honestly like seeing the behind the scene. I love seeing

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Speaker 9: the quarterback meetings at the Combine. You know, when they

468
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Speaker 9: brought in the quarterbacks when they were meeting with them

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Speaker 9: at the Combine, when they were having them discuss plays.

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Speaker 9: I thought that was incredibly valuable, useful information for me

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Speaker 9: to kind of see how these guys operate. But I'm

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Speaker 9: assuming they sat down Daniel Jones and told him all this,

473
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Speaker 9: because they should. He's gonna see it anyways, you might

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Speaker 9: as well hear it from the source. And it looks

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Speaker 9: like Joe Shane's a pretty straight shooter. I mean, I

476
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Speaker 9: get really good vibes from the way he does business

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Speaker 9: based on what I've seen from Hard Knocks, like he feels.

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Speaker 9: It feels like they're a very direct communication organization.

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Speaker 2: And they probably sat down Dan Jones said hey, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna see this.

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Speaker 9: This is what was said, because they all know the

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Speaker 9: footage that was released, and so I hope they got

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Speaker 9: ahead of it. Because right, Brian, to your point about

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Speaker 9: cheating and seeing the video, would you rather watch the

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Speaker 9: video alone on your couch or would you rather watch

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Speaker 9: the video with your partner as they're telling you what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like pre tell you exactly right, and even

489
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Speaker 3: just flirting would be tough to take. Let's say you're

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Speaker 3: in a relationship and your partner says, you know, hey, yeah,

491
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Speaker 3: I was at the I was at the club. It

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Speaker 3: was this girl a couple extra shots, kind.

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Speaker 2: Of spitting game. I know it was wrong.

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Speaker 3: I know it was wrong, you know, And then you

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Speaker 3: got to sit there and watch it, and who you know,

496
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Speaker 3: maybe Daniel Jones just heisman posed that whole thing because

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Speaker 3: that would be tough to see. And the other part

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Speaker 3: of this real fast is that the Patriots said no, like,

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Speaker 3: think about this, right. There's been a lot of leading

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Speaker 3: up to the draft, especially there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: anti Drake May talk where it's like, oh, this guy

502
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Speaker 3: doesn't read defenses very well, and uh, the accuracy and

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Speaker 3: the consistency. And at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 3: Patriots had the groundwork of a legitimate offer if they

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Speaker 3: were not sold on Drake May, and they had to

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Speaker 3: believe that was most likely the guy who was gonna

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Speaker 3: be there at number three overall. And Elliott Wolf said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're probably just gonna sit there and take a QB.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So it was a little bit like Drake May was

511
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Speaker 3: the Will Levice. He got the Will levis human Pinata

512
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Speaker 3: treatment from the year prior, right where all these people just, oh,

513
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Speaker 3: we'll leve it sucks, and then the chorus joined in like, yeah,

514
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Speaker 3: we'll leve it sucks. That was a lot like how

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Speaker 3: it was with Drake May. But the Patriots who could

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Speaker 3: have moved down a couple of spots, they could have

517
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Speaker 3: been the ones to get Malik Neighbors or whoever they

518
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Speaker 3: felt would have been a good pick at sixth. Overall,

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Speaker 3: they would have had a number one, you know, a

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Speaker 3: first round pick the next year. And then something like

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Speaker 3: that's a legitimate offer if you aren't convinced Drake May

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Speaker 3: can be your guy. And they sat there and said,

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Speaker 3: no deal, We'll take Drake May. That's pretty telling how

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Speaker 3: they felt about May.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: And also some of the things in the scouting report,

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Speaker 4: there are teams or coaches who have belief in themselves

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Speaker 4: above the belief they have in the college programs that

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Speaker 4: these players are coming from. And so what I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to say is, not only are the players scouted and

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Speaker 4: evaluated in the draft process, but so are their coaches,

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Speaker 4: So is the culture that they came from. You know,

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Speaker 4: you have a guy who's a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: knucklehead at a certain university, you know, and you're maybe

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Speaker 4: there are certain teams that have character concerns and that's

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Speaker 4: a stay off pick for them. And then there's other

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Speaker 4: teams that will take the risk, roll the dice because

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Speaker 4: they know they have the culture they'll be able to

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Speaker 4: handle that player, or they believe that maybe the culture

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Speaker 4: they're coming from may have instigated some of that issue,

541
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Speaker 4: and so they know that, well, what we do and

542
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Speaker 4: how we do it is so different, we're not gonna

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Speaker 4: have character concerns once he gets here. You know. Same

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Speaker 4: is with you know, actually things that happen on the field.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have a player who's coming from a

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Speaker 4: system where you know, he wasn't tasked with certain certain things.

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Speaker 6: You know, he wasn't asked to read defenses.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he was just asked to, uh count the box

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Speaker 4: and then you know, throw open a receiver every once

550
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Speaker 4: in a while, like you're you're, you're, you're, you're going

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Speaker 4: from sometimes very rudimentary often is into more complex offenses.

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Speaker 4: And it's your job as a coach to scout whether

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Speaker 4: or not that player has the potential to understand what

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Speaker 4: you're doing. At the next level. And so whether it's

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Speaker 4: the Patriots or it's any team. I'm not making an

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Speaker 4: example of the Patriots. Any team could have this feeling

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Speaker 4: of like, all right, well, listen, regardless of what we

558
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Speaker 4: saw on film, regardless of what we think of him

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Speaker 4: from a mental aspect, we got him on the whiteboard

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Speaker 4: in our you know, organization's facilities, and he was incredibly

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Speaker 4: dazzled us because we asked him to do more than

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Speaker 4: his college football teams asking him to do, and he

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Speaker 4: was able to handle it. You know. So there's all

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Speaker 4: these little draft profiles, these little snippets that come out

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Speaker 4: later on. You know, you may hear about how you know, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, this is what this scout said about Tom

567
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Speaker 4: Brady twenty years later. This is what this scout said

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Speaker 4: about this quarterback twenty years later after they have a

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Speaker 4: successful career, and a lot of it's negative, but sometimes

570
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Speaker 4: it's positive. Sometimes those those things are you know, hey, geez,

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Speaker 4: this guy's actually better, a better thinker than a lot

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Speaker 4: of people think he is. I think there's going to

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Speaker 4: be a lot of questions about Drake May. There's obviously

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Speaker 4: going to be more questions about Daniel Jones. If I

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Speaker 4: were the Patriots, I probably would have said no too,

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Speaker 4: because if we're just looking at needs in an organization,

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Speaker 4: if we're just looking at, hey, how can we best

578
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Speaker 4: cure what ails us? The Patriots had to take the roll,

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Speaker 4: had to roll the dice on a quarterback, even if

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Speaker 4: it was one that they didn't prefer. You know, if

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Speaker 4: they had their druthers, maybe they do go after Jaden

582
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Speaker 4: Daniels if they're you know, if they have the second

583
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Speaker 4: overall pick, or if they had the first overall pick,

584
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Speaker 4: maybe the Patriots do draft Caleb Williams. But they couldn't

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Speaker 4: do those things, so they went with Drake May. Getting

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Speaker 4: back to DJ though, the Giants are a little bit

587
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Speaker 4: stuck and they know it, and so we'll see how

588
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Speaker 4: this season works out. But this could be a situation

589
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Speaker 4: where when it's all said and done this year Fellas

590
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Speaker 4: they blow that whole organize station up, from GM to

591
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: head coach to quarterback, they say goodbye to everybody and

592
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Speaker 4: they start from scratch.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so my impression. I tweeted out the clip of

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Speaker 9: Dable and Drake May. I thought that was that was

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Speaker 9: the most informative two.

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Speaker 2: Minutes of hard knocks. I think I've ever.

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Speaker 9: Watched because I changed my opinion on Drake May, and

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Speaker 9: I'm not listen. I know we sound very stubborn and

600
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Speaker 9: opinionated here on the show. I like to change my opinions.

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Speaker 2: It means that I'm wrong, and it means I'm learning.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think Drake May had the.

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Speaker 9: Mental capacity to do what he did in front of

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Speaker 9: Brian Dable. I did not think that he was there

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Speaker 9: yet as someone who's only started in college football for

606
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Speaker 9: two years for a very very air raid type offense

607
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Speaker 9: to be able to sit down on a board and

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Speaker 9: discuss what he Go watch that clip. It's like a

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Speaker 9: two minute clip of Drake May on the whiteboard with

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Speaker 9: Brian Dabele. Of all of the quarterback interviews I watched

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Speaker 9: on Hard Knocks, that was by far the best.

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Speaker 2: Ke May impress me the most.

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Speaker 9: Now, I didn't watch every second of everything, obviously, we

614
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Speaker 9: only watched what we were allowed to watch. But of

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Speaker 9: all of go back and watch that in that episode

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Speaker 9: and watch it's like a ten to fifteen minute period

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Speaker 9: of the episode where they bring in Caleb Williams and

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Speaker 9: Jade Daniels and Drake May all back to back to back,

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Speaker 9: and you tell me which of the quarterbacks were the

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Speaker 9: most impressive to you? Jan Daniels had trouble remembering right

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Speaker 9: away and they said that, they said he struggles with

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Speaker 9: information recall.

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Speaker 2: So what does Brian Dabile do. Halfway through the interview.

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Speaker 9: He goes back to the beginning and said, hey, what

625
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Speaker 9: did I say five minutes ago?

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Speaker 2: And Jane Daniels couldn't remember a simple letter? Now he'll learn.

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Speaker 9: But Drake May didn't have to learn. He was ready

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Speaker 9: tundra two unders boom right, Louis listens that. I mean,

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Speaker 9: it was impressive and the amount of information recall is

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Speaker 9: twenty one years old. The amount of information recall you

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Speaker 9: need at this position is off the charts. I played

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Speaker 9: high school football in two thousand and four. You know

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Speaker 9: what the play calls were?

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Speaker 2: Twenty?

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Speaker 4: That was it? Thirty eight?

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Speaker 2: Wedge Like it's a different like.

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Speaker 9: You have to be a savant at the at football

638
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 9: now to play this position.

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Speaker 2: You have to be a.

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Speaker 9: Genius to process that information in real time, and not

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Speaker 9: everybody could do it. I don't care how physically talented

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Speaker 9: you are. There are some people that just do not

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Speaker 9: have the mental capacity to handle that. I think Drake

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Speaker 9: May does.

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00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 9: Physically, we'll see, but mentally I think he can handle

647
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Speaker 9: the position, maybe better than the other two guys drafted

648
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Speaker 9: in front of him. At least that was the impression

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Speaker 9: I got the other night from watching that episode. It

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Speaker 9: was really really intuitive.

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Speaker 3: Well listen, you said where it's like savant and genius,

652
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Speaker 3: and we are Grace this morning with a savant slash

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00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: genius known as Dan Freakin' Buyer.

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Speaker 2: Huh, who's got the latest?

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Speaker 4: Dan?

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 5: Buddy? Good mornin fellas.

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Speaker 11: Love of the conversation, you know, and in fairness to

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Speaker 11: Joe Shane, because we've all said this, when you're picking

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Speaker 11: that high, you do have to at least look at

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Speaker 11: other at quarterbacks because you don't ever want to pick

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Speaker 11: there again. But I love the new hard Knocks. I

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Speaker 11: actually think it's better than all of the other iterations.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 11: Us is on the board in the medal count. Yes,

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Speaker 11: it is early in the Olympics. We've got a silver

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Speaker 11: in women's synchronized diving three meter springboard and Sarah Bacon

668
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Speaker 11: Cassidy Cook have brought home the silver for Team USA.

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Speaker 5: China's picked up two golds.

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Speaker 11: They lead the metal count early on that's where we

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Speaker 11: are with the Olympic medal count. Team USA tips off

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Speaker 11: tomorrow against Serbia. Not feeling too well as Team USA

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Speaker 11: literally Anthony Davis and Joel and Biid are sick embid

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Speaker 11: miss practice today. Davis did practice after missing workouts earlier

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Speaker 11: this week. However, head coach Steve Curses. Both are expected

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Speaker 11: to play tomorrow. Australia tops Spain in group play in

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Speaker 11: men's basketball, ninety two to eighty, Patty Mills at nineteen

678
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Speaker 11: for the Aussies. Germany took care of Japan ninety seven

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Speaker 11: to seventy seven, Franz Wagner with twenty two points for

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Speaker 11: Germany in that one. Some golf going on right now

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Speaker 11: Overseas Senior Open Championship kJ Choy with the lead at

682
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Speaker 11: nine under par and third round play with the live

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Speaker 11: golf EVET in the UK is just getting underway with

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Speaker 11: second round play.

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Speaker 5: John rom starts the day as your leader at eight

686
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Speaker 5: under three. I'm open.

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Speaker 11: Taylor Pendrith has the lead on the PGA to Or

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Speaker 11: gilty Off in the Twin Cities a little bit later

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Speaker 11: on today, but he'll start the day Atsweld under and

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Speaker 11: in the lead. And if you guys missed it late

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Speaker 11: baseball last night, Diamondbacks beat the Pirates four to three

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Speaker 11: Arizona and now a game back of the Padres for

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Speaker 11: the final wild card in the National League. That wildcard

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Speaker 11: in the National League is going to be a log jam.

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Speaker 11: San Diego right now is one sixth straight. It's rich

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Speaker 11: knows pretty well they leave Baltimore. But right now Diamondback's

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Speaker 11: playing pretty good baseball as well.

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Speaker 2: Throw back to you guys, Thank you Dan. It is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Shortly

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Speaker 2: after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 3: If you miss anything on today's show, be sure to

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Speaker 3: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 3: get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow rate and

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Speaker 3: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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Speaker 3: get your podcasts. You'll see the show posted right after

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Speaker 3: week it off the air. I love that Dan brought

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Speaker 3: up the silver and synchronized swimming. It's the Olympic spirit, right,

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Speaker 3: It's like if we get a medal and whatever, it's

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Speaker 3: like in.

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Speaker 2: Your face, boom metal.

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Speaker 3: Synchronized swimming, now what you know had a paradise for you.

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Speaker 9: You should see the events you could bet on. Here

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Speaker 9: are the events you could bet on at bet MGM.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 4: Hell?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, badminton, canoeing, equestrian, fencing, field hockey, handball.

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Speaker 2: You want to bet on rowing, We've got you surfing.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Everything about betting on surfing? Guys, what do you think

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Speaker 2: Although you're.

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Speaker 7: Leaving out the king of Olympic sports table tennis.

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Speaker 2: It's all water polo. You can bet on all of it.

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Speaker 2: It's wild. This is a Schmorgsborg.

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Speaker 3: I just picture a gambler somewhere saying, Okay, yeah, you

725
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Speaker 3: bet a lot of NFL, a lot of NBA. You

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Speaker 3: know you haven't lived until you've bet canoeing.

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Speaker 6: You know you feeling out there?

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Speaker 9: Cawba dude, Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Man at a lot of options over there.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure which is the most degenerate of the events.

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Speaker 2: I think canoeing on the running. Yeah, gotta be up

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Speaker 2: to all right.

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Speaker 3: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 3: betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian now coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Our guy, Jared has been in the lab concocting a

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Speaker 3: parlay that has great value and a great payout. We'll

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Speaker 3: get his two cents right around the corner. It is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It

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Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Uh Selene, this hour go Jered.

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Speaker 3: Next hour is what I've been told by our trusted

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Speaker 3: technical producer, Chris Burpfett.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we don't have time to waste. Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 4: Check this out our late.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Smith, you have been hard at work. What

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Speaker 2: do you have for us this morning? You guys want

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Speaker 2: to get weird this morning or you want to be

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Speaker 2: more traditional? What do we think? We were just talking

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Speaker 2: about betting on canoeing. I think yeah, you're right, We're

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Speaker 2: already weird. Let's get weird, all right. I've got an

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Speaker 2: Olympic parlay.

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Speaker 9: Actually it's a third Olympic parlay. It's like a decathlon, right,

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Speaker 9: We've got one Olympic bet and a couple of other

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Speaker 9: normal traditional bets and then just the regular old baseball

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Speaker 9: money line parlay. We'll give you the the fun one first,

757
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Speaker 9: all right, We'll get that out of the way. So

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Speaker 9: I really like Cocoa goff in this Olympics. She was

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Speaker 9: unable to compete in twenty twenty because of Covid. She

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Speaker 9: was back in the Olympics this year. The surface suits

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Speaker 9: her right. They're playing this tennis tournament at Roland Garros.

762
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Speaker 9: It is a clay court. There is a handicapable element there.

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Speaker 9: It's not just going for your country. We know that

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Speaker 9: Coco Goff is better on clay, right, she slows down

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Speaker 9: a little bit of her serf. She's a better player

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Speaker 9: on clay. IgA Shuatek is a rock star. She's a

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Speaker 9: massive favorite in the women's Olympic tournament. But I think

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Speaker 9: Coco GOP's worth a little bit of a of a

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Speaker 9: sprinkle here.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna put her in a parlay.

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Speaker 9: Boy, we're getting nuts with the other two leg I

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Speaker 9: kind of hinted at this last week that I was

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Speaker 9: gonna do a baseball football futures parlay. I thought I

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Speaker 9: was gonna put the Jets in there. I kind of

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Speaker 9: changed my mind. I'm off the Jets bandwagon. As much

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Speaker 9: as I love my team, I'm gonna go Eagle. So

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Speaker 9: we're gonna go Eagles and Phillies all Philly. How about that,

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Speaker 9: phillip It's been a good few years for Philly sports.

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Speaker 2: So we'll go Coco Gop five to one. Phillies win

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Speaker 2: the World Series four to one. Eagles win the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl fourteen to one. This thing is like five hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty to one.

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Speaker 6: I put fifty.

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Speaker 2: Bucks on it. It's gonna pay out twenty eight grand.

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Speaker 9: I'll see all at the window in February when we

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Speaker 9: all go, you know, hanging out at NOBU or something.

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Speaker 9: All Right, now, the more traditional moneyline parlay with baseball today.

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Speaker 2: This one's pretty easy, guys.

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Speaker 9: I'm putting some favorites who lost yesterday, one favorite that

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00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 9: did win yesterday, but some favorites that lost yesterday that

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Speaker 9: I think bounce back today. Let's start with the Phillies.

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Speaker 9: Really good series, Phillies, Guardians. This could be a World

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Speaker 9: Series preview right here.

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Speaker 5: I kind of hope it is, right.

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Speaker 9: I don't think Carlos Carrasco is gonna hold down this

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Speaker 9: Phillies offense. They only scored one run yesterday. Has been

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Speaker 9: bad this year. Trey Turner's to pick the click today's

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Speaker 9: eight for thirteen career off Carlos Carrasco. Lookout for Turner

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Speaker 9: to either go yard or have an RBI or something good,

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Speaker 9: and I'll think the Cardinals Brian I don't know if

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Speaker 9: you watch that Cardinals game last like crazy game, extra innings,

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Speaker 9: Cardinals lost it late and that scored.

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Speaker 2: Four runs in the tenth.

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Speaker 9: I think Kyle Gibson bounces back today. Gibbs has been

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Speaker 9: great over this last five starts, ten and a half

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Speaker 9: k's per nine, getting a lot of soft contact. I

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Speaker 9: think Cardinals bounce back today. And sorry, bo, I've got

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Speaker 9: to phase the Dodgers because they're an underdog today. And

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Speaker 9: here's the nugget of the day. The Dodgers as an

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Speaker 9: underdog no bueno four and seven this year doesn't happen

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Speaker 9: a lot, but when it does happen, they don't win,

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Speaker 9: and seventeen and twenty four as a dog since twenty two. Again,

813
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 9: they're not a dog often, but when they are an underdog,

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Speaker 9: they tend to lose. They're throwing some triple A guy today,

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Speaker 9: Robleski and Ronel Blanco has been pretty good for Houston.

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Speaker 9: On the other side, the Astros have been hot, so

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Speaker 9: we'll go Astros Phillies, Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: The three leg.

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Speaker 9: Money line parlay in baseball today pays about four to

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Speaker 9: one at that MGM.

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Speaker 3: I do like that you've thrown in the Cardinals in

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Speaker 3: your parlay like that. How about you in the dark

823
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Speaker 3: of nights, you know, swapping out the Jets for the

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Speaker 3: Eagles to win it all.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Oh my goodness, I didn't even catch that.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 4: This is a week apart.

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Speaker 9: It is.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's my thought, guys. I think the Jets and

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Speaker 2: we can talk about this at some point. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot of time in the next couple couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks to get into football.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 9: Football is like right around the corner. I think the

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Speaker 9: Jets are gonna start fast. I'm worried about the finish.

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Speaker 9: I really am high on the Eagles this year. I

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Speaker 9: think Kellen Moore is going to be the best thing

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Speaker 9: that's ever happened to Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's tempo.

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Speaker 9: I'm excited about their offense, their defense with Fangio. I'm

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Speaker 9: also very excited about But I think Philly, man. I

842
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 9: maybe it's not down on the Niners. Maybe I just

843
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 9: think Philly is significantly better than last year, and I

844
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Speaker 9: think they're right there. I think Philly, Detroit, and San

845
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Speaker 9: Francisco are all right in that same boat.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Niners are a cut above anyone

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Speaker 2: this year with that offensive line.

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Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles have a great roster. I mean what

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Speaker 4: you fail to realize when you are I don't know,

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Speaker 4: chained to the numbers because they finished the season on

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Speaker 4: that horrible slide the regular season and then leached into

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Speaker 4: the postseason. Well, I mean, they still have one of

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Speaker 4: the most dominant rosters in all of football. So I

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Speaker 4: completely agree with you there. They're in the top, They're

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Speaker 4: in the class of the NFC.

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Speaker 3: I'm really interested to see Saquan behind that old line

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Speaker 3: and now Jason Kelsey retired, but it's still a really

858
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Speaker 3: good offensive line, much better than what he had with

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Speaker 3: the Giants.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, Jared mixed in with a little

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Speaker 3: Kalen Moore love little tempo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gonna be really exciting.

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Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, this is one of the

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Speaker 3: worst football takes ever.

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Speaker 2: We'll share it with you. Oh, Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 2: We start off with a.

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Speaker 3: Just a a reckless and stinky opinion. I would say,

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Speaker 3: you know, stink delicious, stink delicious. So this is John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, and he said something

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Speaker 3: about Lamar Jackson that just made me look sideways.

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Speaker 2: You know, I almost went cross eyed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really go cross eye, Like what like what

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Speaker 3: he said made my brain hurt. This is what he said,

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Speaker 3: his vision for Lamar Jackson going forward.

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Speaker 6: Here you go the vision.

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Speaker 12: For Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: And it's a vision.

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Speaker 12: It's something you see it like it's already happened. You

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Speaker 12: can see it like it's already been done. The victory

881
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 12: has already been won when you pour into a vision.

882
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 12: And the vision that we have together is a Lamar

883
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 12: Jackson is going to become and be known and be

884
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 12: recognized as the greatest quarterback ever to play in the

885
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 12: history of the National Football League.

886
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 4: Wow.

887
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the first part of it, guys.

888
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: Is I think the term goat gets thrown around like

889
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: you're in the running if you throw twenty five touchdown

890
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: passes in one season, you know what I mean, Like

891
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: it could go your way. The Tom Brady mount Everest

892
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: Mountain that you would have to like we'll do Olympic style,

893
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: you know, like the high jump.

894
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: You have to clear that high bar.

895
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: That that high bar is so ridiculously high for any quarterback.

896
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: Let alone, a guy like Lamar who's insanely talented, but

897
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: he's two and four in the playoffs. He hasn't even

898
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: gotten to a super Bowl. Like, he's never going to

899
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: have the accomplishments that even halfway rival Tom Brady when

900
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: it's all said and done.

901
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: And this is the larger point.

902
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: I think that and you hear this in sports, sports radio,

903
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: sports TV?

904
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: What happened? What have you? With fans?

905
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Your opinions shouldn't turn into reactions. That's the bottom line.

906
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Where there are countless examples. Tim Tebow is a great

907
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: example of this. When he was in the NFL, there

908
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: were a lot of critics like, man, Tebow is freaking brutal,

909
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: and the Tim Tebow Army would come back and overreact

910
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: and be like.

911
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: N uh, Tim Tebow is awesome.

912
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: Right now, Lamar Jackson is world's better as an NFL

913
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: quarterback than Tim Tebow. But the same concept applies to

914
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh. Right there are critics like, ah, Lamar can't

915
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: get it done in the playoffs, Man, this guy's overrated.

916
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: Whatever he's watching, reading, what have you? And he's reacting

917
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 3: to that with no, oh, he's gonna be the goat.

918
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: And it's like, Bro, you can't have your opinions turned

919
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: into reactions. And that's what's happening here with John Harbaugh.

920
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: It's a classic example of it happening, and it steered

921
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: him into the choppy waters of a horrible take.

922
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

923
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think I think belief is very useful

924
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: in sports. If you don't believe you can do something,

925
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: you can't. You know, So everything in life really starts

926
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: with belief. You have to have the thought I can

927
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 4: before you accomplish anything. And so in this situation, I mean,

928
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: is it conceivable or possible that Lamar Jackson can be

929
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: the greatest quarterback of all time? No? Im, Well, look

930
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: I refuse to say that at this point in his career.

931
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: I mean, is it possible could the Ravens win every

932
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: Super Bowl for a decade?

933
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 6: I guess?

934
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: You know, could Lamar Jackson be the reason or the

935
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: biggest reason why? I guess? But you know, I mean,

936
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: if we're being pragmatic, that's the correct answer, Brian, you

937
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: know it's no. I mean, but oftentimes, like, it's not

938
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: being a pragmatist that gets you to that level. Uh,

939
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: it's having it's daring to believe that you're better than

940
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: everybody that can get you that. It's almost like a

941
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: self obsessed, you know, soul determined you know.

942
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

943
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: I don't want to call it a religion because that's

944
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: not really apt, but it's it is a belief in

945
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: yourself or in your team or in your coaches that

946
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: you could get something done that nobody else or everybody

947
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: else wants to get done.

948
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 6: You know, it's a it's.

949
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: So so I guess, I guess what I'm trying to

950
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: say is John Harbaugh let the inner thoughts out. You know,

951
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: he he gave you an idea of how he thinks

952
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 4: about about the plan, and and I don't blame him

953
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: for thinking that way. I think it's a good thing

954
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: to think that way. I think if you set your

955
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: your expectations or your your goals, you know, insanely high,

956
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 4: if you fall short of those insanely high goals, well

957
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: you're still going to achieve an incredible amount. So I

958
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: think that's what he did. I think he led us

959
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: inside of his head and we got to hear a

960
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 4: little bit about his goal setting and what his hopes are.

961
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: But the reality, if we are going to be pragmatic,

962
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: is he's not. He's not going to be the greatest

963
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: of all time, and in fact, it can be detrimental

964
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: to Lamar Jackson because now you're putting some weighty expectations

965
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: on him by saying these things publicly.

966
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 9: Nailed it, ranch Suson, you nailed it, like it. It's

967
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 9: okay to think you're Like I think I'm the best

968
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 9: broadcaster that's ever lived. I think that every day. But

969
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 9: am I gonna go and say that to everyone? No, Like,

970
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 9: you have to have that mindset that you're going to

971
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 9: achieve greatness, but you don't say the quiet part out loud.

972
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 9: That's that's just you just don't do it like. It

973
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 9: kind of reminds me of It reminds me of two things.

974
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 9: Like when I listen to that clip Brian, two things

975
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 9: came into my mind. The first thing is Harbought sounds

976
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 9: like a politician running for He's like, oh, he's the greatest,

977
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 9: He's the greatest. It's the greatest we've ever had. It's

978
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 9: the greatest quarterback ever.

979
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 4: It's the best.

980
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 9: The second part of it sounds like a kid going

981
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 9: up to their parents, mean, like mommy, Daddy, when I

982
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 9: grow up, I want to be Spider Man.

983
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, like that's cute.

984
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 9: You're not gonna be Spider Man, Like, it's not gonna happen.

985
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, there's a fictional character. There's only one of them,

986
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 9: and you're not it. Sorry kid, like you're not gonna

987
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 9: say that to your child. But it's okay that they

988
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 9: think that way, Like it's kind of a fantastical thought,

989
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 9: like you want to be a hero. I get it,

990
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 9: but that's not reality. That's not the world we live in.

991
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 9: And I think there's two types of you know, two

992
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 9: types of brain waves that you have to have. You

993
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 9: have to have those fantastical thoughts that fuel your fire.

994
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 9: That chip on your shoulder helps you achieve greatness. But

995
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 9: that's not your public persona, like that's your inner monologue talking.

996
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 9: And then you have to departmentalize that, especially as a

997
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 9: head football coach. You have to compartmentalize a lot. As

998
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 9: a head football coach, you certainly have to compartmentalize that.

999
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 9: You can't reveal all of your thoughts and dreams and

1000
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 9: hopes and plans.

1001
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: You have to be very calculated, very buttoned up.

1002
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 9: Everything has to be planned, especially when you're talking to

1003
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 9: the media, Like it'd be one thing if he said

1004
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 9: that in private in a meeting with Lamar, Like, I'm

1005
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 9: totally fine with that, totally. And even if that private

1006
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 9: meeting with Lamar was on hard Knocks and we all

1007
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 9: saw it and we saw him sit down in a

1008
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 9: room with Lamar and said you are going to be

1009
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 9: the greatest quarterback of all time, I am completely fine

1010
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 9: with that.

1011
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: You are motivating your player.

1012
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 9: You don't go say it to the media because then

1013
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 9: you're right Rich You put that target on Lamar's back

1014
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 9: and it's hard to live up to that, right.

1015
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: It's listen, I understand you have to believe you can

1016
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: do things that are really unrealistic. As an athlete, I

1017
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: get that. Even as a coach, you have to believe

1018
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: in your players to that degree. But listen, the Carolina

1019
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Panthers can believe all they want that they're gonna win

1020
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl this season.

1021
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: They're not going to.

1022
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they have to believe they can do things

1023
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: that are probably out of reach. But like with both

1024
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: of you guys saying it, you don't go and say

1025
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: it in front of the media with all the microphones

1026
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: in your face. If the Carolina Panthers came out and

1027
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: said we're gonna win it all this season, we'd be like, right, yes,

1028
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: it's just silly. That's the same thing with Lamar. Yeah,

1029
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: he's insanely talented, but when you look up in the playoffs,

1030
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: he's two and four. He's thrown six touchdowns and six picks.

1031
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: His passer rating is less than seventy six, just for conn.

1032
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: You look at all the passer rating stats last season

1033
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 3: in the NFL, I'm scrolling down, scrolling down, all right,

1034
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: we're getting Josh Dobbs, Nope, gotta go lower. Sam Howell, Nope, lower,

1035
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, Nope lower, Mac Jones, no lower. The only

1036
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 3: guy that had a passer rating worse than Lamar's playoff

1037
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: passer rating was Bryce Young, who is a rookie without

1038
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: great weapons.

1039
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: That's how bad it's been for Lamar.

1040
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: He has no chance to go down as the goat,

1041
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: and so for harbought to. Yeah, he's trying to breathe

1042
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: confidence into his guy. I fully believe that he believes this.

1043
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: But it's crazy town. It's crazy town one oh one,

1044
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: and I think you nailed it rich where. I don't

1045
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: think this is something that it's going to back the

1046
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: critics off. If anything, this tightens the focus of you're

1047
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: not doing this, you're not doing that, You're not excelling

1048
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 3: and exceeding in the playoffs. I that's all it does

1049
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: for me. So it's a pipe tream.

1050
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1051
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, this is a total

1052
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: pipe tream. And I don't think this actually helps the Ravens.

1053
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: I think that it is.

1054
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: It's the eleven year old who believes in his team

1055
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: and someone spits facts and says, Nope, your team isn't

1056
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: the best because of X, Y and Z, and you're like,

1057
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 3: nuh uh, my team is the best. That's Harbaugh. He's

1058
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: given us an eleven year old argument of no, Lamar

1059
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: is awesome, and it's like, no, bro, he's really not.

1060
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 6: Well. I mean, is he awesome?

1061
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean but is he going to achieve what

1062
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: John Harbaugh has laid out? Probably not. You know, I

1063
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 4: think he's I think he's an excellent quarterback. I think

1064
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: that he makes the Ravens much much better. And I

1065
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: think without Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh wouldn't have a job.

1066
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's unless they found somebody else, you know,

1067
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 4: unless they found a different quarterback to lead the way

1068
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 4: the way that Lamar Jackson has been able to over

1069
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: the course of time, because if you remember, at the

1070
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: end of the Flacco era, there were a lot of

1071
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: calls for Harbaugh's job and Lamar Jackson, and by the way,

1072
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: to John Harbaugh's credit, he was able to transition to

1073
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: this young quarterback who they snuck back into the first

1074
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: round to draft, by the way, and the rest is history.

1075
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 4: So I think I think he has a belief in

1076
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 4: Lamar that maybe a lot of people didn't didn't have

1077
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: coming out of even coming out of Loulllville, you know,

1078
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: because a lot of people wanted to see if he

1079
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: would make a better receiver at the NFL level, and

1080
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: John Harbaugh believed in his talents as a quarterback. A

1081
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: lot of people didn't think he was a first round

1082
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: talent at quarterback, and John Harbaugh and his group over

1083
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: there with the Ravens, they did. And so, like I said,

1084
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: all things have to start with belief. But you also

1085
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: have to be careful of when you're speaking about yourself

1086
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: and goals that you set for yourself that aren't going

1087
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: to involve others, And you got to be careful when

1088
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 4: you're speaking about goals that do and in this case,

1089
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 4: he was talking specifically about somebody else, So you're putting

1090
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: the cart way in front of the hole. And that's

1091
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: where I have a problem with what he said. I

1092
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: don't think it's bad for him to have belief. I

1093
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 4: don't think it's bad for him to think these things.

1094
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: But you are in some ways, like you mentioned, Brian,

1095
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: he sounds like a politician. Yeah, in a lot of ways,

1096
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: the head coach is a politician. And sometimes politicians put

1097
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: their foot in their mouth and they say something that

1098
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 4: they can't unsay and we can't unhear. Well, that's where

1099
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: we're at with this quote from John Harbaugh. And now, unfortunately,

1100
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 4: when this season goes the way it goes for better

1101
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 4: or worse, you know, this quote is going to follow them. Yeah,

1102
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: And so it doesn't matter if they have a great

1103
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 4: regular season but they flame out in the postseason like

1104
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 4: the Ravens usually do. At some point, it doesn't matter

1105
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 4: if they shoot if they win this super Bowl, but

1106
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: they don't win another one after that. With Lamar Jackson,

1107
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 4: at some point this quote is going to come back

1108
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: to haunt John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.

1109
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 4: It may not be soon, but it will and and

1110
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: it's sad that he let you know the quiet things

1111
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: spoken out loud, because I don't think it does, you know,

1112
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 4: just going back to the original point, I don't think

1113
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: it does anybody any favors have that belief. But but

1114
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: in this case, since you're talking about somebody else, and

1115
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: you know the position you're in and how how much

1116
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: expectation gets levied with words like these, keep those thoughts

1117
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: to yourself.

1118
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 9: If I was a betting man, I am, I would

1119
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 9: bet that he backtracks.

1120
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: At some point.

1121
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 9: No, I comes back on and he says something along

1122
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 9: the lines of I.

1123
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Really you know, like maybe not like a full back track.

1124
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: But it don't make that bet.

1125
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 9: Talking about a reclassification of what he meant, because he

1126
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 9: is good, because rich and Elle, he is gonna be

1127
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 9: asked about this now, and Lamar is going to be

1128
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 9: asked about this now a lot, and at some point

1129
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 9: they're just gonna want to c verify, well, you know

1130
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 9: this and that, and I don't know, it feels like

1131
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 9: a really extreme thing for him to say, Like John

1132
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 9: Harbo's a really smart this isn't his first time in

1133
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 9: the league coaching, Like this guy's been in the league

1134
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 9: now for what thirty years coaching like for him to

1135
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 9: say that knowing the two guys that are obviously the

1136
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 9: go it's Brady and Mahomes, Like obviously, Like anyone who's

1137
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 9: watched football at all in the last twenty years, whether

1138
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 9: you're a coach, whether you're a fan, you know who

1139
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 9: the two best quarterbacks have been.

1140
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: It's it smacks you on the head. They just had

1141
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: a Netflix roast for one of them.

1142
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 9: It ain't Lamar. I love Lamar. I want a lot

1143
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 9: of money on him at MVP last year. I'm happy

1144
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 9: that he is in a good situation. Clearly they have

1145
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 9: very high hopes this year. But there has to be

1146
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 9: some kind of reclassification. There has to be because that's

1147
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 9: just it's a crazy comment to say to the media.

1148
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: It really is.

1149
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1150
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: Look, man, if anything, he's gonna double down. This is

1151
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, you know, and he's dug in. I would

1152
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: be floored, stunned, you know, I would be able to

1153
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: close my mouth right like just like, oh my gosh,

1154
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: you just reversed course, or you know, I got a

1155
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: little carried away.

1156
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 9: I don't And that's what I think he's gonna say, Like,

1157
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 9: you know, guys, I'm a confident guy, right, I'm a

1158
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 9: confident guy.

1159
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1160
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, man, I'll believe it if.

1161
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 6: I hear it.

1162
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this

1163
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: instead of and again this is revision, is history.

1164
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 6: This FATA really quick.

1165
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Instead of saying he'll be the greatest of all time, imagine,

1166
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 4: he said, Lamar Jackson will win more than one super Bowl.

1167
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's at least realistic to be the goat.

1168
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: Tom Brady won seven super Bowls. You know that, seven

1169
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: more years, Lamar.

1170
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: That's the thing, Like, that's more than every NFL franchise ever.

1171
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: Brady has more.

1172
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: And you're gonna talk about a guy who's two and

1173
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: four in the playoffs.

1174
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: That's why it's the comment made no sense.

1175
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 9: Like it's like telling me the sky is green, Like, no,

1176
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 9: it's not, John, It's not like you're wrong.

1177
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: It makes absolutely no sense. But yeah, I believe that

1178
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 3: he fully believes that.

1179
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and I don't.

1180
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 6: Think he's backing off of it.

1181
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, be interesting how often that comment gets brought

1182
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: up time and time again over the next handfull of years.

1183
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: We'll wait and find out. We got rich Orenberger, Penn

1184
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: State All American. Lamar Jackson's associate agent.

1185
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: As we turned out, he doesn't have an agent.

1186
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 6: Rich maybe you should.

1187
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: Sign up, that's true, give up.

1188
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: But but he he has trusted people.

1189
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: He's got publicists, definite. We got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1190
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm Brian No coming up next. This athlete is the

1191
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: anti Caitlin Clark. We'll explain. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right

1192
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

1193
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron Rodgers in

1194
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: the news again for the same story where he missed

1195
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: Jets Mandatory Mini Camp and the story Jess Will.

1196
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: Not Die is his Groundhog Day. Yeah, you had Aaron Rodgers.

1197
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: He was on the Party Might Take podcast and he

1198
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: just wanted to clarify a few things.

1199
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: You know, went to.

1200
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: Egypt, went to go see the sites instead of being

1201
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: there for Jets Mandatory Mini Camp. Got fined his whole thing.

1202
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: Here's what Rogers said about it.

1203
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 13: The thing that I think people don't understand is that

1204
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 13: when when I was in the NFC North and playing

1205
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 13: for that team years ago, there used to be a

1206
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 13: real thing called mini camp where it was you had

1207
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 13: one of them. Usually sometimes it's right up for the draft.

1208
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 13: But either way, it was five practices and three days Friday, Saurday, Sunday.

1209
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 13: So two practices on Friday, two on Saturday, one on Sunday.

1210
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 13: And now it's not mini camp. They can arbitrarily put

1211
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 13: a tag on whatever week of Ohay's they want. Yeah,

1212
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 13: it is the mini camp week, which makes it somehow

1213
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 13: more mandatory than the other weeks. But it was an

1214
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 13: OTA schedule. That's how it's You know how words can

1215
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 13: be a little deceiving from time to time. You can

1216
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 13: make a story of the fact that I missed a

1217
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 13: mini camper when it was really two OTA days, right,

1218
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 13: interest I came to the first ten.

1219
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Okay, my goodness. Here's the bottom line, guys, is.

1220
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Rodgers is the anti Caitlin Clark. Meaning

1221
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: this think about Caitlin Clark. There are all these critics,

1222
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: they are all these haters. There's all this drama around her,

1223
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: and what does she do. She lessens the drama, She

1224
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: decreases the drama. She doesn't add to it. Hey, Caitlin,

1225
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: what do you think about Kennedy Carter? Carter like decleting

1226
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 3: you like she's an NFL middle linebacker. That's just basketball.

1227
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: Just decreasing drama, not adding to it. What does Aaron

1228
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: Rodgers do? He does the freaking opposite. Okay, he creates

1229
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: more drama. He adds to it where instead of saying, hey,

1230
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 3: look it was just a minor miscommunication, but no big deal.

1231
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: We've moved forward. My focus is on the season. If

1232
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 3: you missed it, I only played four plays last season,

1233
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: right like, it's not about this.

1234
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: Season, focus on football.

1235
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: It's I want to clarify this misinformation about oh my gosh,

1236
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: dude again with just more and more drama. He's high maintenance.

1237
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: He's worth it, but he has no idea how to

1238
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: be less dramatic or low maintenance. Low maintenance is not

1239
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: an Aaron Rodgers vocabulary.

1240
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: No, I don't disagree with anything he just said.

1241
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 6: I think this is.

1242
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 4: A really bad look and maybe not really bad. That's

1243
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: probably over exaggerating. It's very typical of what we've heard

1244
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: from Aaron Rodgers over the years. And I think if

1245
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 4: it were a different quarterback, or if it was a

1246
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: different player, we would have a stronger reaction toward this.

1247
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 4: But did we expect anything different? I mean, and also,

1248
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 4: by the way, what are we arguing here? What are

1249
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 4: we arguing here, So the Jets said that this weekend

1250
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: was going to be mandatory and you decided to skip it,

1251
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 4: and per your head coach, you didn't have an excused absence.

1252
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: So what are we missing about this story? And then,

1253
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 4: by the way, and then the first thing you say

1254
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 4: about it is, well, listen, we can barely call these

1255
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 4: mini camps anymore. And you're arguing semantics. Yeah, like you're

1256
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: clearly you're wrong, and you're one of those people who

1257
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 4: can't admit it when you're wrong. Yep, and that sucks

1258
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: for everybody around you. Bub that's the problem with that, honestly,

1259
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 4: it's it's it's along the lines of you ever been

1260
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: with somebody who can't apologize, like they can't admit guilt.

1261
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's poisonous.

1262
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 4: It is poison I mean it doesn't matter if they're

1263
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: a friend or you're trying to have a relationship with

1264
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 4: somebody like that, it will poison you and and the

1265
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 4: relationship and the friendship and you won't have as strong

1266
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: of a bond to somebody who can't take that level

1267
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: of accountability. And then if it happens with something you know,

1268
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: relatively small, because let's be honest, in the grand scheme

1269
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 4: of things. Is it all that important that he made

1270
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: it to that mini camp?

1271
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 6: No? Probably not.

1272
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 4: Would have been better if he told his head coach

1273
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: where he was gonna be instead of mini camp. Probably,

1274
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: and and you know, honestly, would would have been better

1275
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: if he had his blessings. Yeah, yeah, it would have

1276
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: been better if he had his blessings. But putting all

1277
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 4: that aside, if the Jets go on and have a

1278
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: great season, I mean, I'm sure all of this is

1279
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 4: forgiven and nobody really cares. But it's it's the little

1280
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: things do echo into the larger things. So when it

1281
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 4: gets tough, are you gonna count on? Is that what

1282
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: the leadership looks like? You know, are we gonna be

1283
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: arguing semantics instead of actually what happened? When there's other

1284
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: things you have to be accountable for. I just think

1285
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: it's the wrong message to send to a team that's

1286
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: barely got to enjoy or experience you as a player

1287
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:00,479
Speaker 4: or a leader.

1288
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: Yet, what Rich just said is why I took the

1289
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: Jets out of the Parlave.

1290
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 9: Just he just verbalized what I was thinking when I

1291
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 9: was like, eh, you know, super Bowl is probably not

1292
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 9: in the cards this year. No, I hope it is,

1293
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 9: because it would be fun to get, you know, an

1294
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 9: extra week during the Super Bowl bye week of Aaron

1295
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 9: Rodgers explaining why he was in Egypt during mandatory mini

1296
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 9: camp and still being on this story, you know, six

1297
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 9: months later, But it does feel like what had happened

1298
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 9: was like you, you know, you get caught red handed

1299
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 9: doing something and you try to spin it around where

1300
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 9: it's not as bad as it really seems, when in reality,

1301
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 9: the correct answer to that question, I don't know the

1302
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 9: context of what he was asked, but the.

1303
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: Correct answer to the question is it's in the past.

1304
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: Let's focus on football. I'm ready to win. Let's go

1305
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: like in not trying.

1306
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 9: To twist it around so you don't seem as malicious

1307
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 9: in your actions. You made a choice, you chose to

1308
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 9: not be there, be accountable for whatever repercussions happen of

1309
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 9: that choice. Like, that's it, And I'm fine with that

1310
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 9: answer too. I'm fine if he comes out and says,

1311
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 9: I made a decision, I wanted to go to this,

1312
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 9: I went. I knew it wouldn't impact us winning a

1313
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 9: super Bowl. I'm back, Let's go win a super Bowl. Yeah,

1314
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 9: and at least you're taking accountability for your actions, and

1315
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 9: that is what leadership is, even if it was the

1316
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 9: wrong decision, and in hindsight was it the wrong decision?

1317
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 4: Eh?

1318
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 9: Do I care as a Jets fan if he was there,

1319
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 9: like eight percent maybe the other ninety two percent is

1320
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 9: more focused on the next six months, which is arguably

1321
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 9: the most important six months, not what happened in the last

1322
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 9: six months.

1323
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: So it's all about accountability.

1324
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 9: And as a quarterback in the NFL, you better have

1325
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 9: supreme accountability.

1326
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: To me, that's the defining character of leadership.

1327
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 9: Are you gonna gaslight me in the telling me that

1328
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 9: this event wasn't as important in as mini camp that

1329
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 9: you missed, or are you going to take accountability and

1330
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 9: then move forward?

1331
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1332
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: You guys have seen the movie Donnie Brosco, Right, Oh,

1333
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: great movie al Pacino. There's one line in it where

1334
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: I think he tells Johnny Depp, he goes, even when

1335
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: a wise guy is wrong, he's right, yep.

1336
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: And I think that's how Aaron Rodgers operates.

1337
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: He thinks he's a wise guy in the movie Donnie

1338
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: Brosk even if he's wrong, he still feels like he's right.

1339
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: And look, man, you rewind to what he said in January.

1340
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: Okay, think about what just happened with Egypt and the

1341
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: explanation after the fact from Rogers, which you just heard.

1342
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: He said this in January. He said, if you want

1343
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: to be a winning organization and put yourself in a

1344
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: position to win championships and be competitive, everything you do matters,

1345
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: and the BS that has nothing to do with winning

1346
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: needs to get out of the building.

1347
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: So we fast forward to July and he's.

1348
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: In BFE, right, he goes to Egypt instead of man

1349
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: mandatory mini camp and then he's explaining, oh.

1350
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 2: Actually our signals got crushed. It technically it's probing us.

1351
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: That is the BS that needs to get out of

1352
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: the building.

1353
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: You're part of the problem, you know.

1354
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: You got to practice what you preach where the stuff

1355
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with winning. You got to

1356
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: drop kick that stuff away from the headquarters there. And

1357
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: he's not doing that. So incredibly talented, very productive, high maintenance,

1358
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: worth it.

1359
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: But man, you can see why.

1360
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: The Packers are like, bro, twenty years of twenty years

1361
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: of this is what the Jets are getting right now. Hey,

1362
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: we've got twenty years of goodness of Dan Bayer in

1363
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: the radio, artipaves right here. I feel like there's twenty

1364
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: more years of greatness in the doors to come here.

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 5: Now you laugh, but you're not far off. It's about

1366
01:06:59,320 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 5: nineteen years.

1367
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Wow, you know I was right there?

1368
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Summer of five. How about that? There

1369
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 5: were some Olympics going back then.

1370
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Speaker 11: The US men's gymnastics team medaled in two thousand and

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Speaker 11: eight in Tacoma.

1372
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 5: Bronze could be a bit difficult.

1373
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 11: Wasn't a great morning, especially for American gymnast Brody Malone.

1374
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: Didn't even qualify.

1375
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 11: For the men's all around, which will take place the

1376
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 11: final coming up on Wednesday. Instead, the Americans will be

1377
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 11: represented by Fred Richard and Paul Judah in that all

1378
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 11: around competition. But a rough go for the US men's

1379
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 11: gymnastics team. US men's basketball team tomorrow will take on

1380
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 11: Serbia and their Olympic opener. Anthony Davis and Joel Embiid

1381
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 11: both expected to play. Davis has been sick and beat

1382
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 11: this now sick as well. He didn't practice today, but

1383
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 11: that coach Steve Kerr expects both to go tomorrow. We

1384
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 11: get some webbee action today. France and Brazil playing in

1385
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 11: the Olympics. That comes up in about forty five minutes.

1386
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 5: Guys.

1387
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Speaker 11: Earlier today, Australia drops Spain ninety two to eighty in

1388
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 11: group play, while Germany was a winner against Japan ninety

1389
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 11: seven seventy seven. Maybe some people are cooling off on

1390
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 11: the jets as you guys were talking about Texan's a

1391
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 11: hot pick this year. Jill Mixon missing a six straight

1392
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 11: practice with a soft kissue injury for the Texans in

1393
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 11: training camp today. And Golf kJ Choi continues to lead

1394
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 11: the Senior Open Championship at nine under par at Carnousti.

1395
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 11: Live golf event is in the UK, and John rom

1396
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 11: leads at eight under par, but he's got some company.

1397
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 11: Ave Answer and Andy Ogletree share the lead with him

1398
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 11: at eight under par. Camp Smith's shot back PJA Tour

1399
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 11: Today's in the Twin Cities. Taylor Pendrith will see off

1400
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 11: in the third round with the lead at twelve under par.

1401
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 6: Guys, back to you, Hey, thank you Dan.

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Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 3: I wanted to say this real fast because I saw

1414
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: this earlier in the week and it needs to be

1415
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: highlighted what the Vikings are doing. So Kyrie Jackson, the

1416
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: young defensive back from Oregon, tragically died in a car

1417
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: accident two weeks ago, so they're gonna honor him. They're

1418
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: gonna have a kjdcal on their helmets, but they're also

1419
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 3: going to pay Jackson's full signing bonus to his family.

1420
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: Love the and that's just such a classic move, and

1421
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 3: it made me think we always talk about organizations being

1422
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 3: so cold, and you see this from time to time

1423
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 3: where a player gets released and they don't even know it,

1424
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: they don't hear from the organization. They find out on

1425
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: Twitter or one of their buddies calls them, like, bro,

1426
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: you just got released. He's like, what like this is

1427
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: the opposite of that what the Vikings are doing, and

1428
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: it's got to be highlighted because, yes, the business can

1429
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 3: be cold to a fault, and some of these teams

1430
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 3: don't do their players justice and give them the proper respect.

1431
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,919
Speaker 3: I love that the Vikings are giving the proper respect

1432
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: for Kyrie Jackson. And I know they have deep wallets,

1433
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 3: they've got deep pockets, but they don't have to pay

1434
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 3: this signing bonus to his family. It's a very very

1435
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: classy gesture, and I just love what they're doing.

1436
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. It's uh, you know,

1437
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 4: it's so funny when I don't want to say funny

1438
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 4: because that illustrates.

1439
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 6: Or kind of gives the wrong emotion behind this story.

1440
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: But I didn't think very far down the path of like, hey,

1441
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 4: what about his signing bonus because of the tragedy.

1442
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't get there mentally at all with

1443
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 6: the story.

1444
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 4: I was just concentrating on how awful it is that

1445
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 4: such a young life was taken and talented, you know,

1446
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: I it's it always feels harder when you know there's

1447
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: so much potential with the person. And that may sound

1448
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,879
Speaker 4: a little you know, all human life.

1449
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,520
Speaker 6: Obviously is valuable.

1450
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: And it may sound a little like, oh, you know

1451
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 4: this this person is more worthy than that person. That's

1452
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: not what I'm trying to illustrate either, But but there's

1453
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: something to that, Like when you lose somebody who has

1454
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: an insanely bright future, when he's on the cusp of

1455
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 4: doing all of those things that he hoped and was

1456
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 4: striving for his whole life, it's exceptionally sad. And so

1457
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: for the Vikings to make sure that that wasn't the

1458
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: final chapter that you know, publicly, our last impression of

1459
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 4: this story wasn't how sad of an experience this would be,

1460
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: but that there was some good that came out of it.

1461
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: You know, that the family would reap some benefit from

1462
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 4: this awful tragedy. Again they trade that signing bonus for

1463
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: their sons or nephews or brothers or you know, uncle's life. Yeah, absolutely,

1464
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: there's no question about it. But you know, cheers to

1465
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,959
Speaker 4: the Vikings for for handling their business and and handling

1466
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 4: it the way all businesses frankly should. Yeah.

1467
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 9: I don't know if Ziggie Wolf was the one in,

1468
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 9: you know, pulling the trigger here and you know, getting

1469
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 9: making this deal done. But I mean he's a he's

1470
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 9: a you know, really well respected owner. You know, father

1471
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 9: or parents were Holocaust survivors and you know, came came

1472
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 9: to this country at a very young age. So that's

1473
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 9: a really uh, it's it's a good it's it's a

1474
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 9: great backstory. It's a fantastic story in general. I mean

1475
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 9: it's it's a really it's not a feel good story

1476
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 9: at its beginning, but at least it has a happy

1477
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 9: ending in in in the happiest the possible capacities. Not

1478
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 9: often you see NFL teams, uh, free and willing with

1479
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 9: their money like this. So so kudos to the Vikings.

1480
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 9: I don't know who was the person in charge of

1481
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 9: making it happen, but it was really really well done

1482
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 9: and well thought out.

1483
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: Gesture.

1484
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I like it's funny right in a

1485
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: way because Skull the chant. Yeah, they were like skull

1486
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: and they're doing the clapping thing right that that means cheers. Yeah,

1487
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 3: like Rich has said, cheers to the Vikings. It's funny

1488
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: how that ties in. By the way, the text tone

1489
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: I have for one of our bosses, Scott Shapiro, it's skull.

1490
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: So every time it's like dude, dude skull.

1491
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 9: I'm like jarring every time you text you, every time

1492
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 9: your boss text you.

1493
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: Oh, well, what's going on? I'm like, well, filling what

1494
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 2: mailer's off? What's going on here, Scott.

1495
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 6: Let's go all right.

1496
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 3: We got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith

1497
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian Nell coming up next. We bond.

1498
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 3: This is our time to come together. Rich sees Lamar

1499
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 3: Jackson one way. I see him the other way. This

1500
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: is where we bond. Prop it up, prop Betskalore. We'll

1501
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: get into it. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on

1502
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here

1503
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. I'm trying to guard against speaking

1504
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: in a like a staccato voice, like to mimic the

1505
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 3: song in the background, like.

1506
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports other day, you know, something like that.

1507
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: I'm just trying my heart. Let's get it.

1508
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 3: We have no time to waste. Let's dive into this.

1509
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays.

1510
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay, prop bets go, Lord Jared, We'll start with you.

1511
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: What do you have for us?

1512
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 9: Well, I think we're gonna see a very interesting cy

1513
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 9: young race in the American League, and we get one

1514
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 9: of the stars on the mound today to reach Schoogle.

1515
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: Facing the Twins, we're going under five and a half hits.

1516
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 9: The cy Young Award winner at least a favorite right

1517
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 9: now to win the Cy Young in the American League

1518
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 9: back at home today, He's under this in thirteen of

1519
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 9: twenty starts.

1520
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: Eight of nine at home.

1521
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 9: He loves pitching in the Motor City faces the Twins today.

1522
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 9: Actually have hit well against lefties this year, but not

1523
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 9: all lefties are created equal. Schoogle is a different caliber

1524
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 9: of lefty. He has faced the Twins twice this season.

1525
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 9: He has gone under.

1526
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: Five and a half.

1527
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 9: It's both times. In fact, he's allowed just six hids

1528
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 9: in one hundred and eighty seven pitches across the two

1529
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 9: starts against the Twins. Lo Lo for Scoogle today, we're

1530
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 9: going under five and a half.

1531
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going Olympics and I have won that starts

1532
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: in twenty six minutes, so I'll go first there. Victor

1533
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 4: weh Minyama his point total is nineteen and a half.

1534
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the over for Team France facing Team Brazil.

1535
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: I think a lot of these stars from the NBA

1536
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 4: who are joining their hometown countries are going to have

1537
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,839
Speaker 4: to be stars on the floor for their hometown countries

1538
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 4: because not much.

1539
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 6: Else going their way for them.

1540
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna feel the same way with Team Brees

1541
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 4: taking on Team Canada. Got to see Canada play a

1542
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 4: little bit against Team USA. Not a great showing, but

1543
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 4: they showed up for the game. So I think this

1544
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 4: is gonna be a little bit of a challenge. I

1545
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 4: got Yannis with over twenty five and a half points

1546
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 4: in that matchup later in the day, so Victor woman. Yeah,

1547
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 4: I'm over.

1548
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 6: Nineteen and a half. Yiannis over twenty five and a half.

1549
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 2: Twenty five and a half.

1550
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, our Olympic guru, Yeah, I love it

1551
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 9: right there, I do.

1552
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 6: I do.

1553
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: Okay. You guys feeling risky at all today? Yes?

1554
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 5: Play in last hour?

1555
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1556
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 3: True, if it felt risky, you'd still have the jets

1557
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 3: in that thing.

1558
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 4: Cheer. That's true.

1559
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 6: That's a good thing.

1560
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's a little too risky for my

1561
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: blood brother.

1562
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 3: I still feel that you're feeling risky. Okay, we know

1563
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 3: that Shotamonaga has been a fantastic picture for the Cubs. Okay,

1564
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: it's got one hundred and eight strikeouts this season. Now

1565
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 3: here's the thing, though, the Kansas City Royals, they are

1566
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: fond of not striking out. Okay, they've struck out the

1567
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 3: least amount of times this season. So it's at plus

1568
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 3: money under four and a half strikeouts for Shota today.

1569
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking, Oh gosh, I don't like it.

1570
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: He could go deep into this game. A lot of

1571
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 3: opportunities for strikeouts. I know, I know, but I'm gonna

1572
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: go with a Royals team who's been playing good baseball lately.

1573
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take them to not get struck out more

1574
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 3: than four times against Shota Imonaga. Give me the under

1575
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 3: four and a half strikeouts for Showta today. I know

1576
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: it's a risk, but I like the Royal chances. Yeah,

1577
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: it's one of those like I could be talked into it.

1578
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: You know, fine, I'll put ten dollars on that.

1579
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: Right.

1580
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 9: Well, here's what I feel about these props now, Like

1581
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 9: these props are price like we're late in the year,

1582
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 9: like we're a hunter games in the year, Like these

1583
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 9: props are priced correctly. So you've got to be creative.

1584
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 9: And also you want to be on the right side

1585
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 9: of the plus money if you can't like if you

1586
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 9: have a take that is outside of the norm, or

1587
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 9: like a feeling that is outside of the normal run play,

1588
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 9: you're getting good value at this stage of the market

1589
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 9: because it is very sharp. The prop market especially is

1590
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 9: very becoming more sharper as the days go by. But

1591
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 9: Show it has been weird this year. I feel like

1592
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 9: he's he's good and then he's not good.

1593
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 2: It's all about the rest and kind of the matchup.

1594
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 4: I think for him, I wish he hated the bet

1595
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 4: because then I could say, showta immm, not gonna happen.

1596
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 4: But that's pretty good, excellent, But I can't say it

1597
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 4: because actually I dig it, and uh, I'm right there

1598
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 4: with you, buddy.

1599
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: Okay, take some risks. Do we want a little more

1600
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: action here?

1601
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1602
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it all right.

1603
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 9: Blake snell over seventeen and a half out today is

1604
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 9: on the list as well. So the Giants play a

1605
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 9: double header, right, and anytime you get a double header,

1606
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 9: I want the starting pitcher to go over their outs

1607
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 9: in the first game or in the second game, either game. Frankly,

1608
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 9: this is I think the first game. Yeah, it's the

1609
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 9: first game for the Giants. Snells and so so that

1610
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 9: makes more sense to me. Right, it's a doubleheader, you

1611
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 9: gotta play two. You better go as far as possible

1612
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 9: in the first game, Blake, because we need to.

1613
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 6: Now.

1614
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 9: I know it's the Rockies today. It's not exactly Murderer's Row,

1615
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 9: but it I always like that approach when you have

1616
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 9: like a legit starting pitcher in the first game of

1617
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 9: a double header, the leash might be ten pitches longer

1618
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 9: than it normally is.

1619
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 2: Because we got another game to play after this.

1620
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna go with a potential same game

1621
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: parlay layer in addition to what you're talking about.

1622
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, if you're feeling.

1623
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 3: Frisky, how about and it's uh, what does crack always say,

1624
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 3: our guy Bill Krackenberger. It's when things are rich, even

1625
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 3: says it on this show.

1626
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: When it's correlated. That's what it is.

1627
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 3: It's correlated here highly corral. I agree, he's probably gonna

1628
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,480
Speaker 3: go deep into this game. I'm gonna take the Rockies

1629
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: to go over one and a half earned runs against

1630
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: Blake Snell. Okay, like you just said, Yeah, it's not

1631
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 3: Rummer's route, but he should go deeper in the game.

1632
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 3: And we're talking about two earned runs scored. The Rockies

1633
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 3: are weird like that. They just scored twenty a couple

1634
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 3: of days ago against the Red Sox. They'll give you

1635
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: like one run, or they'll give you like eight.

1636
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 9: And like that lineup too, I honestly do. Tovar, McMahon

1637
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 9: and Diaz. I mean, Tovar is becoming like one of

1638
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 9: the better middle infielders in all of baseball this year.

1639
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 2: He's having a really good year.

1640
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 3: I actually like both of those angles with your angle

1641
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 3: on snow going deep into the game, and I agree

1642
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: the over he goes.

1643
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 9: Six innings, he's probably giving up two runs, like probably probably, Yeah,

1644
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 9: especially if you go seven, they're like, oh gosh, it's

1645
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 9: almost lock City, all right?

1646
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: Coming up next, I have an opinion that I think

1647
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 3: is pretty well reasoned.

1648
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 2: You guys be the judge.

1649
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 5: You know.

1650
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 3: I can't quite say I came bearing gifts this morning,

1651
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: but I came bearing an opinion I think you might

1652
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: agree with. At least it'll get you thinking, okay, if

1653
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: you're not quite on board. I was thinking about this.

1654
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 3: So Team USA is dan Byer just said a minute ago,

1655
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: getting set to start the Olympic journey, the men's basketball team.

1656
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: They take on Jokichen, Serbia tomorrow, and I was thinking

1657
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: about this with Lebron. So you think about Team USA.

1658
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: The last two games we've seen them play, right, they

1659
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: survived against South Sudan by one point. Yeah, Lebron went

1660
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: crazy at the end, had a big bucket when they

1661
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 3: needed it in the final seconds. The next game against

1662
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: Germany was a four point game and Lebron went off

1663
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 3: at the end of that game. And I was just

1664
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: thinking about Lebron and the way he plays with power, Like,

1665
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 3: think about this. He's almost forty years old, and there

1666
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 3: are times even in international basketball where you can handcheck, it's.

1667
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: A more physical game.

1668
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: He's still like, I'm gonna put my head down, get

1669
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 3: to the rim, and there's nothing you can do about it.

1670
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: It's amazing. But I was thinking about this.

1671
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 3: Where a basketball player with power who is not a center, right,

1672
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they get the same type of praise

1673
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:19,520
Speaker 3: that other athletes in other sports get for being powerful.

1674
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 4: Right.

1675
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 3: If you think of Shack or some dominant centers, yeah

1676
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: they'll get their shine, but non centers that play with power,

1677
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 3: they normally don't get the same type of praise.

1678
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: Think of football, think of some of the.

1679
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 3: Great powerful players, whether offensively or defensively, Christian Okoye right

1680
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: the Nigerian Nightmare, or Bo Jackson, Jerome Bettis where it's

1681
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: like whoa, the power defenders Aaron Donald, Reggie White, JJ Watt, Ronnie.

1682
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 9: Lott like hitters and it's just this wow factor. Baseball

1683
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 9: power pitchers, where it's Nolan Ryan, you know, Rand Johnson,

1684
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 9: we ooh and ah when it's power. But in basketball,

1685
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 9: if it's a non center like Lebron, I think it's

1686
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 9: more of a shoulder shrug.

1687
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I agree with it. I think that's

1688
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: just the way it goes. Lebron is the leading scorer

1689
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: in the history of the NBA, and he's not primarily

1690
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: known for that.

1691
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: So ask yourself this.

1692
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: If he was a jump shooter, If Steph Curry was

1693
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 3: the leading scorer in the history of the NBA.

1694
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: Do you think we'd be saying yeah. But I think

1695
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: of his dribbling first.

1696
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: You know, he's got great handles, like no, it stands off,

1697
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: it jumps off the page at you. If it's more

1698
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 3: jump shot oriented, more you know, like Finesse, I'm not

1699
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 3: saying it's right, but I think the power game for

1700
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: a non center in basketball, I think they get short

1701
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: changed on props. When I look at that, I'm like, man,

1702
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 3: that's pretty crazy. You could put your head down. They

1703
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: can't do anything about it. But we don't ow an

1704
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: o the same way as we do with jump shooters.

1705
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: We just don't.

1706
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 4: It's a really good point, and it's very true. I don't.

1707
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: I don't really think that it's always been that way

1708
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 4: with Lebron though, Like this idea that he's been, you know,

1709
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: this this powerful athlete. We didn't regard or respect for

1710
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: his ability to take games over by by playing bulleyball,

1711
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 4: because when he first got in the league. I think

1712
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 4: a lot of people were talking about that. But the

1713
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 4: focus has shifted as the game has shifted further and

1714
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 4: further away from the basketball hoop, and his game has evolved.

1715
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 4: You know, Lebron James became a better three point shooter

1716
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 4: as he aged, and I think some of that was

1717
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 4: by necessity. I think some of that was also because

1718
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 4: he realized this is a weak point and being a

1719
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 4: great he wants to work on his weaknesses and.

1720
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 6: His strengths alike.

1721
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: He could always play you know, the game where you know,

1722
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 4: based on his size and his athleticism and his speed

1723
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 4: and agility, and his you know, appropriateception, his his awareness

1724
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: of where his body is in space. He was always

1725
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 4: going to be able to drive the hoop and score

1726
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: or find you know, the open lane to get the

1727
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 4: ball in the hands of a wide open shooter. And

1728
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 4: and so that's that was baked into him. That was

1729
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 4: part of the DNA of his game, or maybe even

1730
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 4: his DNA as an athlete, but but that that part

1731
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 4: of his game that developed later on. I think it

1732
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 4: really impressed people that he was able to change and

1733
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 4: evolve and become more than what he was when he

1734
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 4: entered the league. But yeah, I think the game's changed, Brian,

1735
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 4: and I think that's a big reason why, you know,

1736
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 4: maybe the outside shooters more heralded for what they're doing

1737
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 4: as opposed to a player as unique as Lebron James.

1738
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 4: How he's able to take over virtually every game that

1739
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 4: he plays in.

1740
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, the thing I love about Lebron and Brian, you

1741
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 9: watch a lot more NBA than me, so you probably

1742
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 9: have more context here. I get the vibe with Lebron

1743
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,480
Speaker 9: on that it's like anytime, anywhere, any place, like, regardless

1744
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 9: of what is necessary, that day, he can give it

1745
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 9: to you.

1746
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 6: You need the.

1747
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 9: Outside shot today, he can take him if he has to.

1748
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 9: He probably doesn't want to, but if he has to,

1749
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 9: if you're giving it to him, he's gonna take what

1750
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 9: the defense is giving you. But then he also has

1751
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 9: this bulldozer mentality. Yeah, this physicality that nobody else has,

1752
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 9: and when that situation is called upon, he is like

1753
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 9: some guys are afraid to go in there mix it up,

1754
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 9: Like they just don't want to. It's longevity, right, They

1755
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 9: just it's not as physical of a game as it

1756
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 9: used to be. But they just don't prefer to be,

1757
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 9: you know, in the fire. But I don't get that

1758
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 9: feeling with him, like any time anywhere, Like regardless of

1759
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 9: what the situation calls for, Lebron has the game to

1760
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,520
Speaker 9: provide it. I think that and also mental dishing, rebounding,

1761
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 9: like not just scoring. That's what separates him from some

1762
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 9: of the other greats. Like get me wrong, I love

1763
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 9: Steph Curry, but but he doesn't have that part of

1764
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 9: his game like a lot of those outside shooters today,

1765
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 9: they don't have that part of their game where they

1766
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 9: can be as effective putting their head down. That is

1767
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 9: an old school mentality, I'm gonna put my head down

1768
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 9: and I'm getting to the rim like that doesn't happen

1769
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 9: as much in today's NBA, but he still has the

1770
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 9: ability to do it.

1771
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: And it's one of the parts of his game.

1772
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 9: That I respect the most because it's just when he's

1773
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 9: in that mode, it's he's basically unstoppable.

1774
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect it too.

1775
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 3: I just wish he would get more flowers because of

1776
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 3: the power game, and it's it's just different.

1777
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: I really thought that this week. I hadn't thought about

1778
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: it that way.

1779
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: But even when Lebron is shooting the ball and rich

1780
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 3: you said this where it's not like he's Westbrook. It's

1781
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: not like he can just attack the rim and give

1782
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,520
Speaker 3: you some mid range stuff. He can drop back and

1783
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: drop three on you. But he looks powerful while shooting,

1784
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He doesn't look graceful. That's

1785
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 3: not a knock. But I think that's part of the

1786
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: reason why he gets short changed. That's why he's not

1787
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: known primarily as a scorer. It's because of the way

1788
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: it looks, right, that's what it is. Where in baseball,

1789
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 3: Paul schemes right, he burst onto the scene. Rookie Pitcher

1790
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: with the Pirates, and it's like he's just striking dudes out.

1791
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: Left and right.

1792
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: He's got the power game, and you're like, wow, you're

1793
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 3: just drawn to it. Where Lebron he's the leading scorer

1794
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 3: in NBA history, and we talk to an all round player,

1795
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 3: like you just said, Jared, he'll dish it, he'll rebound.

1796
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: In his younger days, he played great, great defense. He's

1797
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 3: an all around player. But I still think if his

1798
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 3: offensive game looked different, if it looked more graceful, more artistic,

1799
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: more shooting oriented. I think we think of Lebron as

1800
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 3: a scorer first and foremost, and we don't think of

1801
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 3: it like that because of the power aspect. And it's

1802
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 3: just it's not celebrated as much in basketball as it

1803
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 3: is in other sports. And I'm not saying it's right

1804
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: or wrong. I just think that's the way it is.

1805
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm a big fan of Lebron James, and

1806
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 4: I you know, I askew the argument over who's the

1807
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 4: greatest of all time here Jordan, because I think it's

1808
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 4: opinion based, but based on physical tools. I think Lebron

1809
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: James is the more impressive and intimidating presence on the court.

1810
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 4: You know, Jordan was a slender six foot six. Lebron

1811
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 4: James is a dominating, enormous six foot eight who is

1812
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 4: arguably faster and potentially more agile in his prime. And

1813
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 4: I think with those tools you can do more to

1814
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 4: your opponent.

1815
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I agree with you, Rich and

1816
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 3: real fast think about this too. Imagine if Jordan looked

1817
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 3: like Lebron, same build, same style of basketball, and Lebron

1818
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 3: looked like Jordan, just slender, the way he he moved

1819
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 3: and everything. I think the goat conversation would be a

1820
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 3: lot different. I think a lot of people would he

1821
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 3: would gravitate towards the style.

1822
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: Yep, I completely agree, Like there was a slickness to

1823
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 4: Jordan's game that it sort of embodies that that that

1824
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 4: that point you were making that it's more you're it's

1825
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 4: easier to associate Jordan to scoring than it is Lebron,

1826
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 4: because Lebron is like nothing we've ever seen before. He's

1827
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 4: built like a power forward, but he can play like

1828
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 4: a shooting guard and a point guard. It doesn't it

1829
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense. You know, he he's built like

1830
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 4: a force. You know, maybe maybe even even in a

1831
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 4: in a pinch, he could be your stretch five if

1832
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 4: you're you're short manned. But meanwhile, he can move like

1833
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: like He's Iverson off the dribble like it's you know.

1834
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, he doesn't have I Iverson's

1835
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 4: handles and and very few people on the planet will.

1836
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 4: But it's he's got so many facets to his game

1837
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 4: that are different from from the expectation based on how

1838
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 4: he looks.

1839
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 6: And I do agree.

1840
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 4: Look, we we are all captives of our perspective, and

1841
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: I think I think our view on what a basketball

1842
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 4: player who does what Lebron James should look like is

1843
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 4: very different than what Lebron James actually looks like. And

1844
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 4: as a result, I think he is considered less dominant

1845
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 4: than he actually is. And not by basketball players, by

1846
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: the way, that's by the general public. When you talk

1847
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 4: to basketball players, when you talk to you know, former

1848
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 4: opponents or current opponents of Lebron James, they'll tell you

1849
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 4: it's it's insanely difficult to deal with with that level

1850
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 4: of athleticism at that size on a court. Now, the

1851
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 4: game's also evolved too, because Jordan played in a time

1852
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,799
Speaker 4: where there were a bunch of uh, you know, goons

1853
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 4: on the court thrown haymakers out, you know what I mean.

1854
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: And he and his slickness and his you know, his

1855
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 4: shock creation. You know, his ability to change in mid

1856
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 4: air and go from right hand to left hand. How

1857
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 4: many times do we see him do that, whether he

1858
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 4: was driving the lane or under the basketball who you know,

1859
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 4: driving the baseline. He was just so impressively elusive. He

1860
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 4: was able to avoid all these big bodies on the

1861
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 4: court who are allowed to savage you in a way

1862
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 4: that you're just not allowed to do anymore because the

1863
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 4: whistle it'll blow. And so Lebron James hasn't had to

1864
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: exist during those times. And I think so that's held

1865
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 4: against him also generationally, he didn't have to experience it

1866
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: is that his fault. No, we hold it against Lebron James.

1867
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 4: We for whatever reason, though we never held that against

1868
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant.

1869
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 6: You know.

1870
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 4: It's it's an interesting dynamic. And I do think it's

1871
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: because of his body type and his physicality that he

1872
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,799
Speaker 4: doesn't get the credit he deserves.

1873
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, sex cells right, and Lebron is a little bit

1874
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,520
Speaker 9: more of a bully than he is, like a provocateur

1875
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 9: when it comes to his scoring, like he's not the

1876
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 9: Steph Curry half court shot wiggle, you know, Like it's

1877
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 9: just it's a different kind of scoring. It doesn't mean

1878
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 9: it doesn't count. It still counts. The points are the points.

1879
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 9: It's just you know, not as not as sexy. It's

1880
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 9: a little more gritty. This is a very interesting time

1881
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 9: for Lebron's career. He's I think the the Lakers situation

1882
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 9: is going to obviously continue to uh to change. But

1883
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 9: I'm I'm very fascinated with this Olympics. This is I

1884
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 9: don't want to say it's legacy, but is this the

1885
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 9: last Olympics Lebron's gonna compete it?

1886
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, you think so?

1887
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 4: Four years? Right?

1888
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 6: Oh?

1889
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is it. This is this is the

1890
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 2: your his last chance to uh to be on that stage.

1891
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 9: Right we uh we we consider the the the dream

1892
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 9: team in the nineties to be kind of this like

1893
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 9: pinnacle of basketball. And I'll be honest, I've watched Team

1894
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 9: USA a few times. I watched the game against South Sudan,

1895
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 9: I watched the game against Germany.

1896
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 2: If those those are the performances we're going to.

1897
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 9: Get, we need a little more, We need a little

1898
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 9: more Team Usa. I want to see because if this

1899
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 9: is Lebron's last Olympics, this is it, like.

1900
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: How will he be remembered?

1901
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 9: And losing to South Sudan almost I know it didn't count.

1902
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 9: It was a friendly, but that was that's not a

1903
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 9: good lasting image. So this is a very interesting Olympics.

1904
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 9: I think the Team USA is light years ahead of

1905
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 9: everyone else. They're like a five dollars favorite to win gold,

1906
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 9: but they have not looked that way on the floor

1907
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 9: so far.

1908
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: So hopefully he's got a little more of that bully ball.

1909
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 9: He got a couple of couple of old you know,

1910
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 9: a couple of gallons of petrol left in the tank

1911
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 9: there for Lebron because this is this is it ain't

1912
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 9: gonna be easy. You know, the world is coming for

1913
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 9: Team USA, and there's some talent out there.

1914
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 2: There is. We'll see how they handle it super fast.

1915
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 3: I just want to say something about Lebron and Jordan

1916
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: where it's not a goat debate, you know, but I

1917
01:34:56,120 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 3: think this is interesting where I think Jordan his his

1918
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 3: power and physicality is often overlooked because of the way

1919
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: his game looked Like Rich you talked about this that

1920
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 3: era that he played in the Detroit Pistons were playing

1921
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: football on hardwood, You know what I mean, Jordan, He's

1922
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 3: not looked at as this physically imposing guy, this powerful guy,

1923
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 3: but he was you had to be to survive that.

1924
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,440
Speaker 3: And Lebron on the flip side, I think his finesse

1925
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 3: is overlooked oftentimes because of the way his game looks

1926
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 3: and the way his body looks.

1927
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: I just looked it up.

1928
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 3: Lebron James three pointers made for his career. He's made

1929
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 3: twenty four hundred and ten three pointers.

1930
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 6: Wow.

1931
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: In his career.

1932
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 3: He's shooting about thirty five percent from deep. And for

1933
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 3: a guy who's not known as a three point shooter,

1934
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 3: that's pretty good. That's really good to shoot nearly seven

1935
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 3: thousand threes in his career and hit at a thirty

1936
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 3: five percent clip, and he's not known as a three

1937
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 3: point shooter at all. And I think that at his

1938
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: power that's what you think of, and his finesse oftentimes

1939
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 3: gets overlooked. But long story short, that guy, at almost

1940
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 3: forty years old, he still has both. He still has

1941
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 3: the finesse game, he still has the power game. And

1942
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 3: I just wish the power game would be celebrated in

1943
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Speaker 3: basketball for a non center the way we celebrate the

1944
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Speaker 3: power game of athletes.

1945
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Speaker 2: And other sports. But I think he gets shortchanged when

1946
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Speaker 2: it comes to that.

1947
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Speaker 3: Hey, we've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared

1948
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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next. Wow, this was an.

1950
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Speaker 3: Interesting little testing of the waters in the offseason. We'll

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1969
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Speaker 3: wanted to throw out your way. How about forty nine

1970
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 3: Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan mentioning that he offered Bill

1971
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 3: Belichick a job in the off season. He said, yeah,

1972
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 3: I offered him a spot on my staff. You know,

1973
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 3: he loves football so much. You never know, I didn't

1974
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 3: want to insult him, but you know, he just loves

1975
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 3: it so much that I threw it out and whatever.

1976
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 2: You wanted to do, we had a spot for him.

1977
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 3: And you know, read the fine brint that would be

1978
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: most likely defensive coordinator. You know, I don't know if

1979
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 3: Belichick was like, you know what, I've always wanted to

1980
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,760
Speaker 3: call offensive plays. You know, how about I do that?

1981
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 3: But listen, I don't fault Kyle Shanahan for doing this.

1982
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 3: Why not reach out to Belichick? Guy knows a few

1983
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 3: things about defense, and if he agreed to it, that

1984
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 3: absolutely would have strengthened the Niners staff. And also it

1985
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 3: shows that, yeah, it's go time, man. This might be

1986
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 3: the last real shot that you have to win a

1987
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowl at least the best shot before you have

1988
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 3: to pay Brock Birdie and arm and a leg. So

1989
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 3: to go all in with Belichick makes all the sense

1990
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 3: in the world to me.

1991
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Speaker 4: I agree. This reminds me of like almost like a

1992
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 4: bar scene where you know, maybe it's a group of

1993
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 4: single guys and one of the guys has been a

1994
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 4: little down on his luck lately, you know, you know,

1995
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 4: just you know, maybe maybe got close to winning it

1996
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 4: all with the last with with the last gal that he, uh,

1997
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 4: he was dating, but they didn't quite make it all

1998
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 4: the way there to the altar, and so you know,

1999
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 4: he's just searching. He's on the prow and he's checking

2000
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 4: around the scene, and all of a sudden, you know,

2001
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 4: you see this girl from across the bar, and you go, hey,

2002
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go talk to her, and his buddies go no, no, no, man,

2003
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 4: she's out of here league. It's like, well, you don't

2004
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 4: know until yeah, so I'm just gonna go ask. You know,

2005
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,799
Speaker 4: what's the worst she could say? No? All right, fine,

2006
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 4: but you know what if what if she says yes,

2007
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 4: maybe we could go win a Super Bowl, like you know.

2008
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 4: So that's that's what this was to me. This was

2009
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 4: like Kyle Shanahan nervously sheepishly walking across the bar room

2010
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 4: and being like, hey, I know this is ridiculous, but

2011
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 4: you want to get coffee, And Bill Belichick just went, yeah, no,

2012
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm more of like, I'm more of like

2013
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 4: going to cheerleading competitions and bike riding type guy.

2014
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Speaker 6: But uh, okay, till later.

2015
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Speaker 4: You know, And that's what ended up being this offseason.

2016
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick has a twenty four year old girlfriend and

2017
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 4: an analyst job with ESPN, and Kyle Shanahan shot a

2018
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 4: shot so good on Bullfens.

2019
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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, yeah. I two things. One, I wish

2020
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 2: I was a fly on the wall for that meeting.

2021
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 2: I w oh love to hear the back and forth.

2022
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 9: Kyle's like, hey, Bill would love you to come on

2023
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 9: and be our special assistant to the defensive whatever.

2024
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh, and Bill's like, how about you get Ben. I

2025
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: wish I wish I could have heard that conversation.

2026
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 9: You know, I'm sure it was much more civil than that. Secondly,

2027
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 9: I'll maybe this is maybe it's not Brian, maybe a pushback.

2028
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,879
Speaker 9: I think that's the only way Bill has any success

2029
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 9: at this stage of his career. I think at this

2030
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 9: stage of Bill's career, I think the only way that

2031
01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 9: he has that super Bowl level success is if he

2032
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 9: gets brought into a place that has a great offensive

2033
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 9: minded head coach and they just need to button up

2034
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 9: the defense, kind of like where Vic Fangio is kind

2035
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:11,799
Speaker 9: of settled.

2036
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: And I'm not comparing.

2037
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Speaker 9: Bill Belichick to Vic Fangio, So stop the Twitter trolls

2038
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 9: right now. I'm saying, at this stage of his career,

2039
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 9: I don't see Bill becoming a head coach and then

2040
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 9: turning around a franchise. I don't see that happening. So

2041
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 9: there's two options here. One he gets hired by a

2042
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 9: team that is already established. But let's be honest, how

2043
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 9: many of those jobs come open, like how many Chargers?

2044
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 9: And that's why the Chargers job is very interesting for Belichick.

2045
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 9: I think, how many of those Chargers jobs open up

2046
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 9: where the quarterback's ready, the personnel's ready, we just need

2047
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 9: the culture.

2048
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 2: It's very rare. It's very rare.

2049
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Speaker 9: Usually it's like the Panther situation where it's like we

2050
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 9: need everything. If he's gonna come in and be successful,

2051
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be in that situation where it's

2052
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 9: a Kyle Shanahan where someone already established as an offensive

2053
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 9: genius who needs the other side of the ball fixed.

2054
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 9: And I'm not saying the Niners need to be fixed,

2055
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 9: but they It was not great last year at the

2056
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 9: end for San Francisco's defense. I think their offensive line

2057
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 9: is gonna be worse this year. But we'll get to

2058
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 9: that at some point. But I just I don't see

2059
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 9: Bill coming in and being a messiah this stage.

2060
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Speaker 2: That's just how I see it.

2061
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Speaker 3: I will push back, but I'd like to start with positivity.

2062
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 3: You know, Jared, You're an awesome guy. I love your

2063
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 3: sports takes. I love your gambling in but I'm wrong.

2064
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: I love your hair, you know, but I completely disagree

2065
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 3: with this take of yours. Now here's the thing. This

2066
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 3: is something that Kyle Shanahan said. So he made these

2067
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:43,440
Speaker 3: comments during the TK Show it's hosted by Tim Kawakami,

2068
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: and within this answer that he gave about offering Belichick

2069
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: a spot on his staff, he said, I can't believe

2070
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 3: that he's not a head coach of a team right now.

2071
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 3: I know what I would do if I was an owner.

2072
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 3: That's what Kyle Shanahan said, And it's like Yeah, why

2073
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 3: wouldn't the Cowboys say, let's offer Bill Belichick the keys

2074
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 3: to the Mercedes over here? You know, are we gonna

2075
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,919
Speaker 3: keep Mike McCarthy. Are we gonna swing for the fences

2076
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 3: and bring in the goat?

2077
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: Or the Eagles?

2078
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 3: Are we keeping Nick Sirianni? Where this team is treading downward?

2079
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 3: We lost six of seven at the end. Are we're

2080
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 3: gonna bring in the goat and really go for this thing?

2081
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 3: You know, I'm surprised, not a head coach. But the

2082
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 3: point is this, Jared, you look at that Patriots roster

2083
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: last season and the last couple of.

2084
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 2: Seasons, and it left a ton to be desired.

2085
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: And I know, I know Belichick's fingerprints are all over that.

2086
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 4: I get it.

2087
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 3: But we've said Bill Belichick, the GM gets in the

2088
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 3: way of Bill Belichick the head coach, nine thousand times,

2089
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 3: and it's the truth. So if he took over a

2090
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 3: franchise like the Cowboys with that roster, with the Eagles

2091
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 3: and all that talent, compare that to the Patriots and

2092
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 3: what they had this past season, night and freaking day.

2093
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 9: I agree, I agree, But here's the question. Jerry Jones

2094
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 9: ain't giving up that control.

2095
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 2: He was given up. If he was smart, he would.

2096
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 2: If he was smart, he would but yet to hand it.

2097
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 2: But is he going to He's not, probably not.

2098
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 3: But that's the thing too, is think about what your

2099
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Jets are doing with Aaron Rodgers.

2100
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: You know, is We're probably not gonna work out in

2101
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: the end. Let's be honest.

2102
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 6: Is it.

2103
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 3: The world's different than a team saying, Okay, Belichick's not

2104
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 3: gonna be our coach of the future, but he's got

2105
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 3: maybe two maybe three years.

2106
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 9: I'm not saying he's not going to become a head coach.

2107
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 9: I'm saying I don't see him I no success. I

2108
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 9: think it depends on who he takes over.

2109
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you're taking over an Eagles slash Cowboys

2110
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 3: talented roster, I have no doubt that dude still has.

2111
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Speaker 2: The Eagles have an established culture.

2112
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 9: That's the point. Like the Cowboys have an established culture too. Yeah,

2113
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Speaker 9: I listen.

2114
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 4: I I know they have an established culture, and I

2115
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 4: know that it might be a cultural clash. But when

2116
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:04,879
Speaker 4: you have a coach like Bill Belichick walking into a program,

2117
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 4: what he brings with him is years and years and

2118
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 4: years of Super Bowl victories, and so you have the

2119
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 4: attention of the room. I mean, he's not gonna coach

2120
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 4: for very much longer. What is he aged seventy two

2121
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 4: when he comes back at the start of next season,

2122
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 4: or is he seventy one? I mean, you know, so

2123
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 4: all you need is just to have the instant belief

2124
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 4: of that roster immediately upon walking through the door, which

2125
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 4: you will, and you need to have some early success.

2126
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 4: And if he inherits an already talented roster, you would

2127
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 4: assume him, being as talented as a coach as he

2128
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 4: is with a talented quarterback, he's gonna have instant success.

2129
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 4: And so I agree with Brian. I think that wherever

2130
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 4: Belichick coaches next, he's gonna be careful. He's gonna be

2131
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 4: careful who he coaches because he's gonna want to have

2132
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 4: a team that's sort of already set to go win,

2133
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 4: whether it be deep into the playoffs or potentially a

2134
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 4: super Bowl, because I think he can win in that situation.

2135
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 6: I really do.

2136
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think of think of the chess pieces,

2137
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 3: like think of the Cowboys and what Belichick could do

2138
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 3: defensively with Micah Parsons and Trayvon Diggs.

2139
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, just stop right there.

2140
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 9: You know what, I mean like the x'es and o's

2141
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 9: and what he would Oh my god, but is he

2142
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 9: really going to accept like see, that's the part that

2143
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 9: I struggle with. I know what he expects, we all

2144
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 9: know what he expects. He wants control. He's a Bill

2145
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 9: Parcell's guy. Parcels made this line famous if you want

2146
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 9: me to cook the meal, I want to shop for

2147
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 9: the ingredients.

2148
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: And I love that line. And that's his mentality.

2149
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 9: My point is that mentality is not very common anymore

2150
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 9: in today's NFL. It's much more segmented, kind of like

2151
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 9: the way the Giants do it. You saw Joe Shane

2152
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 9: get the opinions of everyone else, scouts every everyone. I

2153
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 9: don't know if that's the way Bill would run a franchise. Yeah,

2154
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 9: And and that's where I struggle with adapting his style

2155
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Speaker 9: to today's NFL. Yeah, I just don't know if it's

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01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 9: a good It's like a square peg in a round hole.

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying it's not going to happen. I just

2158
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 9: don't think we're going to see the success that we're

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01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 9: all envisioning.

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Speaker 2: I think what Rich and I are saying, how about

2161
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: this Rich and know, Yeah, this is a tag team partners.

2162
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 2: I'm on an island here, I'm on no island today.

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01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 4: What's going on? You?

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01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 6: I know?

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01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 3: But I think that the parcels quote about shopping for

2166
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 3: the groceries, right, I understand what you're saying, Jared, But

2167
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 3: think about this.

2168
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 2: He can't do so much.

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01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 3: Damage to the roster in a two or three year

2170
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 3: span if they already have some good groceries in place.

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01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like if he if he

2172
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 3: takes over a team and they've got some playmakers, he

2173
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 3: can do wonders with that talent, and he can't even

2174
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 3: if he has full personnel control, he can't just wreck

2175
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 3: that talent in two or three years. He doesn't have

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01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 3: enough time to wreck a talented roster by making bad

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01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 3: personnel decisions.

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01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 2: I think, man, if you give.

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01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 3: Him enough to work with talent wise on the roster,

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01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 3: I have no doubt he was doing things with a

2181
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 3: sucky roster where you're like, wow, how do you pull

2182
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 3: off that game plan or even that win?

2183
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 2: Their roster is freaking awful.

2184
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 9: It was, and the quarterback situation was worse last year,

2185
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 9: and with Cam Newton, like all of like the post

2186
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 9: Brady years are gonna want to be forgotten in New England.

2187
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 9: What here's the only follow up I have. Okay, and

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01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 9: I won't even I won't even say win. Does he

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01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 9: ever get back to a Super Bowl? Does he ever

2190
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 9: regain that stat Like, do you envision that close your eyes?

2191
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 9: You think in the next five years of the NFL,

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01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 9: do you see Bill Belichick on the sidelines in a

2193
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 9: big game.

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01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 3: I can absolutely see him on the sidelines of a

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01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 3: big game. But to win a Super Ball with that

2196
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 3: sort of a you know, window, it would be tough

2197
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 3: to do. Taking it depends who he takes olver.

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01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 2: That's the key. Yeah, that's Texas key. New information, new opinion.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, because again, like you look, how different and

2200
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 4: look with Tom Brady there and with Tom without Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: I've said this for a long time and it's as

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01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 4: true for Bill Belichick as it is for most great coaches.

2203
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: You need a great quarterback typically to be a great coach.

2204
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 6: He was.

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01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 4: He had the benefit of having Tom Brady for two

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01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 4: decades and that really benefited him, you know, because Tom

2207
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 4: never wore out during that time period. How many great

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01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 4: coaches have a great quarterback but after ten years that

2209
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 4: was their prime and now they don't look as great

2210
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 4: as a coach. You know, it happens to everybody. He

2211
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 4: just had the greatest football player of all time on

2212
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 4: his roster, so it really benefited him, and he's searching

2213
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 4: for a roster with another great quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I can promise you that.

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01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna coach next year. I just don't know where.

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I just don't know where, and I don't

2217
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 9: know how successful it'll be. And I'm excited to revisit

2218
01:49:58,479 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 9: this conversation when he does get that.

2219
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, me too.

2220
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, I got a story for

2221
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 3: you that's gonna make especially you rich. You know, a

2222
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 3: dog that shows his fangs, you know, he's like, I've

2223
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 3: got a.

2224
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 2: Story that I think will make you do that.

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01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 3: First though, Dan Bayer will put a smile on your

2226
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 3: face and make your fans go away.

2227
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 2: It's got the latest team, you know.

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01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 11: I feel like hal Cogan coming in to save Macho man,

2229
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 11: Randy say as Jared Smith is laying on the apron,

2230
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 11: help me Dan, then I'll deliver the leg drop because

2231
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 11: I'm with.

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01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 5: Noan Ornberger on this. Yeah, yes, n w O right here,

2233
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 5: that's what we got.

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01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 14: Well fack, yeah, you know you guys reached the Giants

2235
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,919
Speaker 14: as well, and I know they don't have the quarterback

2236
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 14: that you guys are just alluding to, But I think

2237
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 14: that Bill Belichick loved his time with the Giants.

2238
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 5: He looks back on it like the glory days.

2239
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 11: And from what you guys talked about earlier in the show,

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Speaker 11: if things don't work out with Joe Shane and Brian

2241
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 11: Dabole this season, maybe there's an opportunity for Belichick to

2242
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 11: go back there. But hey, you guys have months to

2243
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 11: talk about that. We're talking Olympics right now. France and

2244
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 11: Brazil underway in men's basketball. Brazil off twenty one to

2245
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 11: fifteen late in the first quarter of that one earlier.

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01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 5: Today, Australia beats Speen ninety two eighty in group player well.

2247
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 11: Germany was a victory over Japan ninety seven to seventy seventeen.

2248
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 11: USA doesn't play until tomorrow against Serbia. Anthony Davis has

2249
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 11: been sick, but he practiced today. No practice for Joel Embiid,

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Speaker 11: who is also ill. Both are expected to play, according

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01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 11: to head coach Steve Kerr. Kittie Ladecki won her heat

2252
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 11: in the four hundred meter today. In the relay, so

2253
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 11: she should be there, excuse me in the four hundred

2254
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 11: meter preliminary. She should be in the final later on

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01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 11: this afternoon, men's gymnastics not good for American gymnast Brody Malone.

2256
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 5: He did not qualify for the all around.

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01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 11: Fred Richard and Paul Judah instead will represent the Americans

2258
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 11: coming up on Wednesday. Katie Oladeki won her heats in

2259
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 11: the four hundred meter. That's what I was trying to say.

2260
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 11: No practice today for Texans running back Joe Mixon still

2261
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 11: dealing with a soft tissue injury, while a report out

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01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 11: a NBC Cincinnati says Chase Brown's been getting these first

2263
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 11: team reps in practice for the Bengals at running back.

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01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 5: Try to replace the departure to.

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01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 11: Mixing and guys In golf, kJ Joy continues to leave

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01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 11: the Open Championship and the Senior Tour nine under par.

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 11: For the Senior Open Championship, gam Smith and Andy Ogletree

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01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 11: have believed and.

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Speaker 5: Lived golf events in the UK at nine under par.

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Speaker 5: Fellows back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan, good hanging with you, Bud.

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Speaker 9: You two guys street this morning, Not you Dan, Sorry,

2273
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 9: I don't have the same feelings.

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go home now.

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01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 3: He Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 3: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to

2277
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 3: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2278
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Speaker 3: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2280
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 3: get your podcasts, and you'll see the show posted right

2281
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 3: after we get off the air. Okay, so we've got

2282
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: some picks to make right around the corner. And how

2283
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 3: about this the pre chorus, right before the chorus, like

2284
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 3: go Jira, before the chorus comes in and just knocks

2285
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 3: you in the face. We get the pre chorus, you know,

2286
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 3: the little interlude, because there is a story that I

2287
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 3: think will make up most of you, I think especially

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01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,559
Speaker 3: rich Ronberger go. You know, we'll have that for you

2289
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: right around the corner, a little double dip, a fang

2290
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 3: worthy story, and then some picks on Fox Sports Saturday,

2291
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday,

2292
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Shout out to the crew,

2293
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:37,879
Speaker 3: our trusted producer, Bo Benson, Technical producer extraordinary Chris Purfett

2294
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: on the updates, Dan Buyer special treat this morning, very

2295
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 3: nice up on game at the top of the hour,

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman, Zada, Plaxico Burris. They have got

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01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 3: you covered. Just about ten minutes away. You'll hear them

2298
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 3: right here. Okay, before we get to the picks, there

2299
01:53:56,160 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 3: was a story that just caught my attention and I

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01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 3: didn't think it was a big deal, but then I

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01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 3: dug a little deeper, and now the fans are starting

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01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 3: to come out.

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01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:07,879
Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 3: So there was a Kermit the Frog doll dressed up

2305
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 3: in a Mahomes jersey at Raiders training camp, and there

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01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 3: was a Raiders player, Trey Taylor that there's a viral

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01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 3: video and he's joking around and it's what you would expect,

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01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 3: you know, like Patrick Mahomes sounds to some like Kermit

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01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 3: the Frog. He's got this interesting voice, right, And so

2310
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 3: there's this viral video of this Raiders player making fun

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01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 3: of Mahomes and this doll, Kermit doll that's dressed up

2312
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 3: in Mahomes jersey.

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01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: This is what Mahomes had to say about it.

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01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, earlier in the year, kind of stuff like that happens.

2315
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 1: He'll get handled when it gets handled.

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01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 3: It'll get handled when it gets handled over it.

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01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking all right.

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01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 3: This is dumb. What are the Raiders doing? Mahomes has

2319
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 3: owned them.

2320
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: He's ten and two.

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01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 3: He's throwing thirty touchdowns in four picks against the Raiders alone.

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01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 3: But I've come to find out this is a Raiders

2323
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 3: rookie safety. Oh boy, Trey Taylor. He's a seventh round

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,960
Speaker 3: rookie out of Air Force. And the first thing we

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01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: know about this guy life in the NFL is him

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01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 3: making fun of Mahomes. It's a viral video and now

2327
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 3: he's like it'll get handled when it gets handled, Like

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01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 3: if Max Crosby wants to do that, Okay, I get

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01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 3: a daisy fresh, seventh round rookie making fun of Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Rich, I throw it to you. What do you do

2331
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 2: if you're a teammate of that guy?

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01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I've watched a lot of Air Force. I

2333
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 4: know Trey Taylor. I've called many of his games. Good kid,

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01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 4: And to all the servicemen and women, no matter how

2335
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 4: you start your military career, obviously we salute the troops here.

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01:55:53,120 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 4: Having said that, boy, what a dummy, because this in Trey,

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01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 4: I watched you in college and there were no mahomes

2338
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 4: is around the mountain West Na so even if he

2339
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 4: does get a little playing time, which seventh round rookie

2340
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 4: is hard to cut through outside of anything other than

2341
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 4: an appointment on special teams. But if I'm Patrick Mahomes,

2342
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm picking on you. Bub This was an error not

2343
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 4: only on the behalf of Trey Taylor, but this has

2344
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 4: been going on for a little while at Raiders training camp.

2345
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 4: They're letting this guy take this puppet. They're posting it

2346
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 4: to social media. If I'm Antonio Pierce, I'm like, hey,

2347
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 4: could we cut this out?

2348
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 6: Like what are we doing? What are we thinking about?

2349
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 4: You know? But this is a little bit of Hey,

2350
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes a rookie head coach wants to connect

2351
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 4: with the locker room. He lets certain things goes. This

2352
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 4: is gonna be a big learning experience for the Raiders

2353
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 4: as a culture.

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01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2355
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: What's the under on the Raiders team total for this

2356
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 2: year for win?

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01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2358
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Can I well?

2359
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 9: I mean the Gardner Minshew starting quarterback isn't gonna help.

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01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 9: October twenty seventh, everybody here in Las Vegas, Sonny to

2361
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 9: full Las Vegas Halloween weekend. Maybe Mahomes should wear a

2362
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 9: Trey Taylor jersey walking into the building that day to

2363
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 9: try to like it set the total Halloween costume there

2364
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 9: for Mahomes. I mean, listen, this is this story speaks

2365
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 9: for itself. One guy's the goat. The other guy is

2366
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 9: basically trying to hang out with goats at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a rough one, right there are

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01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 2: we got some picks to make. Let's dive into this.

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01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, we start with you. What are you thinking?

2371
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: We are six and zero in our last six picks.

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01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 9: No pressure, right, no, yes, yes, we the Collective, the

2373
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 9: Royal we from the Big bouts Ki. All Right, I'm

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01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 9: going on Nerfy today because listen, that's that's what I do.

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01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 9: We'll go Twins Tigers. This one's expensive, but I think

2376
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 9: it's worth it.

2377
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 2: Joe Ryan.

2378
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 9: Of course, we talked about school a little earlier in

2379
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 9: the show Scooby Snacks.

2380
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 2: I love to reach school this year. We'd like Joe

2381
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 2: Ryan this year.

2382
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 9: Riley Green also injured for Detroit, one of the best

2383
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 9: haters at the top of the lineup.

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01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,400
Speaker 2: So we'll go Tiger's Twins Nerfy. I like this show.

2385
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 2: To Emona, I think he's a kid.

2386
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's like only like a couple years younger than me,

2387
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 9: even though he's a rookie, but he's had a great year.

2388
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 2: Sixteen and two to the Nurfey.

2389
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,120
Speaker 9: He gets Seth Lugo on the other side today for

2390
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 9: the Royals, nineteen and two.

2391
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: To the Nurfy. We're going Cubs Royals Nurfy.

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01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 9: And I kind of struggled with this final game, but

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01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 9: I will give you Braves Mets because I saw this

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01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 9: crazy trend. The Mets are like nineteen and two to

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01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 9: the Nurfy this month.

2396
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 2: It's like ridiculous, like they cannot score run.

2397
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 9: Sorry, nineteen and three the Mets Nurfy is nineteen and

2398
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 9: three in July.

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 2: That is absurd.

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01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 9: And the Braves, of course missing a bunch of key

2401
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,919
Speaker 9: players at the top of the lineup. Albi's recently Acuna

2402
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 9: we all know about. So we'll go Braves Mets Nurfy.

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01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 9: I like the pitching matchup here too. Schwellenbach's been fantastic

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01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 9: for Atlanta this year. Another rookie. So Braves Mets Nurfy,

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01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 9: Tigers Twins Nurfy, Cubs, Royals Nerfy on Saturday.

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01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: All right, Padres Orioles a lot of correlated picks here,

2407
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 4: so we're gonna rattle them off pretty quickly over the

2408
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 4: eight and a half runs. The Padres bats have hot

2409
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 4: on this road trip. It was a pretty tight, offensively

2410
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 4: driven game last night that the Padres were able to win.

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01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 4: So I'm also gonna take Padres on the money line.

2412
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 4: They've been on a heater a lot to prove heading

2413
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 4: into the trade deadline against good teams on the road.

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01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 4: This is the end of the line for them. They

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01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 4: want to finish strong before a J. Preller works his

2416
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 4: magic on the on the trade wire. And then Michael King.

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01:59:23,720 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 4: This was a tough one for me, but I'm gonna

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01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 4: take the under five and a half strikeouts. It's tough

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01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 4: to get sticks strikeouts anyways, he hovers around that line.

2420
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 4: But I do think this is gonna be more of

2421
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 4: an offensive battle in Baltimore, So I'm gonna take the

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 4: under five and a half straight strikeouts for King.

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01:59:40,680 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So I'm feeling a couple of unders here,

2424
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 3: just like Nerfy vibes, not nurfy, but under for the

2425
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 3: entire game.

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01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 2: That's Okayfy could help me quick.

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01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Twins Tigers, and you mentioned Terrek Skoogle here, Jared,

2428
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 3: He's on the bump for the tie. The opposing pitcher

2429
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 3: Joe Ryan. Joe Ryan has one hundred and thirty strikeouts.

2430
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 3: Scoople has one hundred and forty six strikeouts.

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02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 2: I think it's a low scoring game. It's at six

2432
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 2: and a half at bet MGM. That's okay. I think

2433
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,760
Speaker 2: this has three to one written all over it. Give

2434
02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 2: me the under.

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02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Mariners White Sox. Give me under seven

2436
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 3: and a half. The Mariners have the best team eer

2437
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 3: and their twenty eighth in runs scored. They don't score

2438
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 3: a lot of runs and they don't give up a

2439
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 3: lot of runs. I'll take under seven and a half.

2440
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 3: We talked about this earlier. I like Blake Snell. Give

2441
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 3: me over one and a half earned runs. I think

2442
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 3: he goes deep in the game. First game against the Rockies. Today,

2443
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 3: I think he gives up at least two runs. So

2444
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm looking to go a Jared Smith like three and

2445
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 3: oh right here, let's go okay.