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Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Ah, you 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: are listening to the Darker Side of Life with me, 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 15 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network. Welcome to my show. This 16 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: is the show where each week you get to share 17 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: your personal experiences and I hope to give you some 18 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: advice and insight on everything from angels to aliens and 19 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: my specialty of shadow people and hat man. Since I 20 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: am that person who first named and defined both phenomena. 21 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: I have received thousands of stories over the years about them, 22 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and I have been researching and writing about a variety 23 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: of odd mysteries for a very long time because I 24 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: am also someone who has been there, seen that, experienced it, 25 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: freaked out, found some answers, got over it, and now 26 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to help others do the same thing. If 27 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: you would like to submit your experience, please visit my 28 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: main website at Heidi Hollis dot com, where you'll also 29 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: find a lot of different elements, like my blog called 30 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: The hat Man Letters, my various books, and even my 31 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: paranormal comic strip called The Outlanders. I feel that it's 32 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: time that we all bring all of our mysteries to 33 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the forefront, out from our paranormal closets, from the darker 34 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: side of life, to help move us all into the light. 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: The email that I wanted to focus on today is 36 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: very extensive and very involved, and it has a couple 37 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: of different parts to it that you'll see here. It begins, 38 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Dear Heidie, my girlfriend has some kind of dark entity 39 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: or strange force following her. It has been literally harassing 40 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: us daily for more than two years. We've got poltergeist 41 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: activity that is not only active in one particular place, 42 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: not even in one building. Instead, it's something that follows 43 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: her wherever she goes. We have even been able to 44 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: communicate with it, where we put out a piece of 45 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: paper and answers will just appear. Sometimes the answers are understandable, 46 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: but other times it's like some kind of strange script 47 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: or signs that we just don't understand. We weren't sure 48 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: what we were dealing with until recently. That's when my 49 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: girlfriend said she saw hat Man in the mirror. She 50 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: saw hat Man was drinking from both of our glasses. 51 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: She was sure they were empty as she turned to 52 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: quickly look in his direction. In the past, she has 53 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: seen hat Man many times before this, but she had 54 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: no idea he was connected to all of this crazy 55 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: stuff going on around us. Then for us to find 56 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: out that this is a worldwide phenomenon where people see 57 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: this hat Man, that was just mind blowing. Just when 58 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: I thought these strange things and happenings couldn't get any worse, 59 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: things got really crazy when I tried to recite some 60 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: exorcism passages I learned of. We would be grateful for 61 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: any tips you can share with us. We really want 62 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: to learn how to this thing to leave us alone. 63 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: Thank you Andreas Well, Andreas, I have to say there's 64 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of detail here that I generally would 65 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: like to see in a letter, especially one that involves 66 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: as many different layers as what is happening to your girlfriend. 67 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: It's really puzzling to me when I hear so much 68 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: attention being placed on a single person, and I have 69 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: to wonder why, why is that? Because hat Man does 70 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: get attracted to moments of weakness, illness, depression, So I 71 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: have to wonder did something happen a couple of years 72 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: ago to your girlfriend that made her vulnerable to his approach? 73 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: That's thing that I really wish I had a better 74 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: understanding of. And when so much attention is put on 75 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: someone like that, I also have to wonder, what is 76 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: so darn interesting? You know, hat Man can and will 77 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: show up randomly. Somebody's dog died, they got sick, or 78 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: something like that, and he'll show up and it's very 79 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: abrupt and disturbing. But to keep coming back, That's that's 80 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: something very very peculiar to me that has me questioning 81 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: what his goal and focuses and you're saying that he 82 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: picked up your glasses. You know, I have to tell you, 83 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: I don't think I recall getting an email of hat 84 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: Man taking a sip out of somebody's drink. First off, 85 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: that's gross. Second of all, I don't know what would 86 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: be the interest. And your girlfriend was certain these glasses 87 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: were empty. Huh. That's uh. That has me really really puzzled. 88 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: But the more interesting fact is your girlfriend had seen 89 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: hat Man before these two years. But somehow, you guys 90 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: are certain this is part of the whole poulter Geist 91 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: like phenomena you've got going on here. Moving on to 92 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 1: the other aspects of what you said in experiencing poulter 93 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Geist activity, What exactly are we talking about here? Are 94 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: your blankets getting ripped off? Are things getting knocked over? 95 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Did something get thrown at you? I wish that you 96 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: could be more specific about what's going on, because it 97 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: really does help me to better understand when more details 98 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: our place. So when others go to write me, please 99 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: make the email as long as you want, because it's 100 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: really really necessary to decipher and interpret what is going 101 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: on and is it really hat Man. There's there's so much, 102 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: there's so many questions. But I'm also curious if you 103 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: feel a certain presence, is there something going on with 104 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 1: these things? And what made you put out a piece 105 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: of paper to try to communicate with it. I mean 106 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: that that lets me know potentially you guys did feel 107 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: a presence of some sort, because that's that's not something 108 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: that I would generally do myself. And I'm a little 109 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: bit leary and weary when people try to communicate with 110 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: these things, even if it does seem innocent. But this 111 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: doesn't seem innocent at all, because you guys are really 112 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: in a pickle trying to find some answers. So that 113 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: that really has me wondering what it is that you 114 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: guys have sensed. That he gave it this opportunity and 115 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: for it to write back. I really would love to 116 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: see what it is that was written and what these 117 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: symbols are. So if you get that opportunity, send it 118 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: my way. But moving on with what's going on, so 119 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I have to wonder still again, what happened a couple 120 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: of years ago, and if your girlfriend can point that out, 121 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: because whatever trauma took place, or did she happen to 122 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: move into a place that was infested with his presence 123 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and he just got attached. That's a possibility. Whatever it is, 124 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: he is just way too close for comfort. And I'm 125 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: really kind of concerned. I mean, you said, wherever she goes, 126 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: this presence comes with her. I mean, how disturbing is 127 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: that you can't go to the grocery store, you can't 128 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: go to work. I've actually had people write me about 129 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: that didn't seem to matter where they were at, or 130 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it seemed to matter when they went into a certain building. 131 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: I think those are better cases actually, instead of having 132 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: it in your home. But you're saying this goes on 133 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: everywhere that I just there has to be something, and 134 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes finding what that trigger was helps to 135 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: bring about resolution to the entire situation. So have her 136 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: take a look into her past on that, and you know, 137 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: get back to me on it, because I think this 138 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: is something that could really spiral out of control. And 139 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: obviously that has already happened according to what you put here. 140 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Exorcism passages. Things got really crazy after you did that. Huh. 141 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. That's not something I would toss around 142 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: very lightly. Exorcism passages. I mean, there are people who 143 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: specialize in such things. For a reason because it could 144 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: be quite dangerous. It could be risky life or death 145 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: for you and your girlfriend and others who just so 146 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: happened to be around. It is really really not recommended. 147 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you guys really have wow got 148 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: yourself going down this spiral. You know, I think it's 149 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: really important at this stage that you and your girlfriend 150 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: surround yourself with good support friends, local church, family, whatever 151 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: helps bring strength between you two because right now you 152 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: are dealing with age evil challenge and I'm afraid this 153 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: is really going to be something of a struggle because 154 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: it sounds like it is really continuing to make a dent. 155 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: So I tell you this, and I tell many people this, 156 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: bless your personal space, and that is a method that 157 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I write about and I talk about often. But whatever 158 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: your personal faith is, I'm Christian, so I'm never hesitant 159 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: to say I use Jesus name to move things out 160 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: of my personal space. And I use water. I don't 161 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: use anything else, spring water, holy water. And I put 162 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: that in every single corner and say a prayer. But 163 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: it's a big, long method that I personally do what 164 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: it really does work, But I want you to really 165 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: take it upon yourselves, to protect yourselves with prayer, fight 166 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: fire with fire, to be honest. And you know I 167 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: have to tell my audience here. Since this letter came in, 168 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: these people responded with even more information about what is 169 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: really going on. And you think this is something, Oh boy, 170 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: it gets much worse. You are listening to the Darker 171 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Side of Life with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 172 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network, 173 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: And we will be right back. Stay right there, there's 174 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: more Heidi coming right up. You're listening to the Heart 175 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast podcast. Welcome back. You are 176 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: listening to the Darker Side of Life with me Heidi 177 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 178 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: a M paranormal podcast network. Just before going to break, 179 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: we had an email from Andreas who was very concerned 180 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: about a very dark presence that they now recognized to 181 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: be hat Man was harassing his girlfriend for the past 182 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: couple of years every single day. Now. Andreas got back 183 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: to me because I had a lot of questions. I 184 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: couldn't understand exactly the whole scenario, like what took place 185 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, why is this so persistently 186 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: after his girlfriend and he obliged And this is the 187 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: next email. Hi, Heidi, thank you for getting back to me. 188 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: You were wondering what crazy things have happened out of 189 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the ordinary, and I'm trying to think what has not happened. 190 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: All that you mentioned has happened. Things have been thrown 191 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and moved on their own. Once I tried to talk 192 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: to the energy while in a restaurant. I told it 193 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: it had lost and cannot be around us anymore. Suddenly 194 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: the table started moving in all directions for ten minutes, 195 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: the whole time that I was talking. Another time, a 196 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: glass of wine appeared on our table at home that 197 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't belong to us. We went to sit down. That's 198 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: when my girlfriend got yanked and dragged along the floor 199 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: while still sitting in the chair next to that mystery glass. 200 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: That's when I got really angry and started playing Saint 201 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Michael's prayers from my speakers and reciting the verses while 202 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: demanding it to leave. Now, that's when things got really scary, 203 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: because items were thrown around the room, like glasses, knives, 204 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: and even stones. Oddly, only small things have hit me, 205 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: like rocks or fruit but big things like knives or 206 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: bob holes would miss and hit the wall. I still 207 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: kept on going for about an hour that time, saying 208 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: versus and whatnot. It looked like a war zone took 209 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: place and it took hours to clean up afterwards. Then 210 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: the next day I found my speaker outside next to 211 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: the swimming pool all smashed up. Me and my girlfriend 212 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: we hear odd sounds all night long that are really 213 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: really creepy. If I mentioned some of the stranger things, 214 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: you might think that we are both nuts. We moved 215 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: from Finland to Portugal last year and we hadn't seen 216 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: the hat man until last month. That's when she saw 217 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: him outside our house in the garden. Then two days afterwards, 218 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: we endured the worst attack thus far, and I still 219 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: need to repair our room after that. While that attack 220 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: was going on, my girlfriend saw hat man outside of 221 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: our balcony. She said it was the first time she 222 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: heard him speaking, saying harm you, harm you, as he 223 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: waved his arms at her as if to say that 224 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: she should go back outside. She actually did go outside 225 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of the house, but luckily nothing happened. Then we thought maybe, 226 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: just maybe he's a helper of some kind. That's when 227 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: we went online and read about this hat man that 228 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: you named. We are now pretty sure it's been him 229 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: that's been causing all of our issues. It was that 230 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: night that I believe my girlfriend quite literally became possessed, 231 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: because she started speaking to me while she was sleeping, 232 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: saying what I would tell this negative energy, like you 233 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: weak piece of crap, and things like that. Then the 234 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: voice would add, have to kill and kill you. Since then, 235 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: she sees hat Man regularly. In Finland, hat Man would 236 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: only stare at her before he got really bad like this. 237 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: In Portugal a few years ago, she was sick with 238 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: cancer and only had two months to live. Then miraculously 239 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: it all disappeared and she was cured. She said hat 240 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: Man was next to her bed almost every day as 241 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: she lay there dying. She describes him as being seven 242 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: and a half feet tall, wide and black, with a 243 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: long coat on. She can't ever see his face, and 244 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: he has something shiny on a chain hanging on his waist. 245 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: She has been paralyzed as she watched him drink wine 246 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: while he looked at me sleeping. Hat Man was reading 247 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: some verses she couldn't understand. Another time, and then when 248 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I woke up there was an empty wine glass there 249 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: that we did not even own. These are just a 250 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: few examples of what's been going on, And I'm not 251 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: sure why I'm writing all of this, but it does 252 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: make me feel better to tell someone. We also have 253 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: otised some patterns of the hat Man, and the activity 254 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: gets worse when there's negative things going on. But if 255 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: we stay positive, it doesn't go away, but it is 256 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: weaker and odd things happen less often. Thanks again, Andreas. Wow, 257 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: now I told you it kept much worse. This is 258 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: just mind blowing. Now I'm asked what happened a couple 259 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: of years ago that might have attracted hat Man And 260 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: we see here she was near death, so he took 261 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: interest and took advantage during that very difficult time in 262 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: her life where she may have actually passed away. Now 263 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: what concerns me when people are near death and they 264 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: see hat Man linger and waiting. Oh gosh, how can 265 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: I put this nicely? Like that soul he felt was 266 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: his and that he should have the access to that 267 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: person when they cross over. Luckily she did not cross 268 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: over at that time and was healed. Now who does healings? 269 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Let's think I would say God spared her. Now, imagine 270 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: angry hat Man sitting there waiting his time to have 271 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: the opportunity to grab her, and God healed her. I 272 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: would say he's a bit ticked. I would say that 273 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: he is looking for his uh, his reward, his treasure 274 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: that he wanted. Now, also someone who has had such 275 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: a close brush with death. I've known many people who 276 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: have had that kind of thing happened and and they 277 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: become extremely gifted psychic. Even so, that makes me wonder 278 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: if that even ticks him off even more so she's gifted. 279 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: He feels she was taken from him, and wow, not surprising. 280 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I just have that feeling something had happened a couple 281 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: of years ago, and here it is now. I can't 282 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: help but to have more questions to ask Andreas and 283 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: his girlfriend here, because when you're met with something like 284 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: that and met with your end and you see what 285 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: may be coming for you, that can really flip a 286 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: lot of people to change their faith and get a 287 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: lot stronger with it. And I hope that is the case, 288 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: because if hat Man was that close to grabbing you, 289 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: who not good? Not good at all? So um, this 290 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: is this is uh something that is really disturbing as 291 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: well for me, because it sounds to me like he 292 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: is indeed aiming to possess her, and you said she 293 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: acted possessed, saying things in her sleep, repeating your words 294 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: that you would say to the hat man to try 295 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: to get him to leave you alone. This may be 296 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: a bit above my level of being able to help you, 297 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: to be honest, but it's important to build a defense 298 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: around you while you're sleeping, while you're going to work, 299 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: when you're out and about so you don't have to 300 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: keep seeing him everywhere. And I'm speaking to your girlfriend, 301 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: of course, but yeah, very important to do that. And 302 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: how you do that is again, blessing your space. I 303 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: use spring water that i'll have in the sunlight for 304 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: a couple of hours, or holy water, and I'll go 305 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: and bless every single corner and every center of the 306 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: rooms that are in my space. And I'll use my 307 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: cross necklace when I'm doing that, so I keep the 308 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: blessing with me wherever I go. So that's a method 309 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that I think is the first step of defense for you. 310 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: But also, because this is at a level where it 311 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: seems to have dug its claws a bit deeper, you're 312 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: really going to have to seek help button, And I'll 313 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: tell you that level of seeking help can come in 314 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. And I've had a lot 315 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: of people reach out to me when they have sought help, 316 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: and they didn't always get the help they receiking. I'll 317 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: get into that a little bit here after the break, 318 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: but know that there is help. Alright. 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Welcome back. 337 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Just prior to the break, I had another email from 338 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Andreas and his girlfriend who moved from Finland to Portugal 339 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: and have essentially not been able to shake hat Man 340 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: and his Poulter guist activity and what seems to be 341 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: a case of possession to some extent, which is really 342 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: really disturbing. And um, you know, I was mentioning how 343 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: some people reach out for help and don't always get 344 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: the help that they're needing, and what I mean by 345 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: that is, oh my gosh. I have had people tell 346 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: me they've reached out to members of their church or 347 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: a church down the street, or the church of their childhood, 348 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: and some of the awful things that have been told 349 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: to them as a response for their cries for help 350 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: just breaks my heart, to be honest, absolutely, and those 351 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: responses have been we'll join our church and we'll think 352 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: about it, or ignore the spirit, or this is the 353 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: worst one. Donate some money to our church and will 354 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: consider it. Yeah, there's been a lot of different cases 355 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: like that, and and it breaks my heart to the 356 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: extent that these people really are trying, and they're really 357 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: desperate and just don't know what button to push when 358 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: they're facing such ultimate evil as the hatman. And not 359 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: until you've been met with something like him, do you 360 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. But as you can hear 361 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: in this person's email, Wow, it's gone to a level 362 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: of it's taking over her body while she's sleeping, and 363 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: also to the extent of disrupting tables, moving them, levitating things, 364 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: throwing things, and could honestly do great harm to not 365 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: just the girlfriend of Andreas here, but to himself. And 366 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: luckily it's so strange. He's had things thrown at him, 367 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: but the light things only hit him, not the heavy 368 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: duty things like knives and whatnot that could really cause 369 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: some damage. And believe it or not, that's a pattern. 370 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is always, but I think 371 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: sometime times it has to do with this thing I 372 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: like to call human potential, human potential, where I think 373 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: that we kind of block the worst things to be 374 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: able to come at us. Dare I say and I 375 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: also have to say the human potential is one that 376 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: gets a person to get these types of things attached 377 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: to them. Now, under his girlfriend had a very close 378 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: call to crossing over, and people who have that close 379 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: call come back with a lot of gifts. She may 380 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: have had gifts beforehand, as she mentioned she had experienced 381 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: hat Man before. So hat Man likes to control the 382 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: future people who are gifted. Honest to goodness, that is 383 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: a very big pattern that I see. So do you 384 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: take that as a warning or shameful thing to have 385 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: a gift? No, I don't think so. But I think 386 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: when we can own up to knowing that we have 387 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: something special like that on our side, and he wants it, 388 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: he wants to own it, then then I think that 389 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: we should own it, you know what I mean. So 390 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: hat Man is after her because she is something different 391 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: and special. She was miraculously cured spontaneously of a cancer 392 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: while she lie in her bed near death, watching hat 393 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Man glaring at her, waiting for his opportunity to get 394 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: a hold of her, and she gets better. Oh he 395 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: is not happy, not one bit. So I would say 396 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: she was given the ultimate gift, the gift of life. 397 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: Own that gift, own this opportunity that is given and 398 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: he wants it. So he's lurking. He's doing whatever it 399 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: is to get your attention because it puts us in 400 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: a state of fear. It's working to put you in 401 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: a state of fear to wonder what do we do 402 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: with this? And you're putting all this energy out into 403 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: that and it's got to be causing stress. It has 404 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: to be. Don't let him get between you like that. 405 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: Don't let him break you down, and you stand strong 406 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: in who you are, knowing God took favor on you 407 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: and spared you. That's a big deal. That something the 408 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: likes of the devil himself had to come and and 409 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: bug you every day every day. Oh he's not happy 410 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: now personally. I'm gonna tell you when he acts up 411 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: or other things act up that are negative, it lets 412 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: me know I'm on the right track. And I say 413 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: you own that as well. You have a second chance 414 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: at life. Do not let the lurking hat man take 415 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: you down. No, I'm gonna also give you some other 416 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: suggestions to do to try to lift things, to be 417 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: a bit more positive in your personal space. I said, 418 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: to bless it, but also bring joy in your place, 419 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: only play comedies. Laugh a lot. Hat Man hates humor, 420 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: he hates joy. Put on some happy music, open the windows, 421 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: get some pets. And I know this is hard. I 422 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: know this is hard, but I like to crack jokes personally. 423 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: He didn't like that, And I don't mean insult him, 424 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: go after him, and I could feed into him. So no, 425 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: but I don't want you to run. I don't want 426 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: you to scream. I don't want you to act up 427 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: in that way. But stand firm where you are, stand 428 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: in who you are, and find that inner strength and 429 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: your faith to pull that in as well to formulate 430 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: this defense against his onslaught. He's so in your face 431 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: all the time. I just can't imagine. And you know 432 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: he's digging his claws in two get you when your 433 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: defense is down. I didn't hear that he's pulling your 434 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend's strings while she's conscious, only that her chair got 435 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: pulled around a little bit, but not like from the 436 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: inside out. I didn't hear that part. And if that's 437 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: the case, he's doing this little coward move he likes 438 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: to do when people are sleeping, and and then like 439 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: that's when he's his most arafty like oh oh, oh, oh, 440 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping and now you come. Yeah, yeah, that's that's 441 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: a coward move, like you're at your weakest point, defenses 442 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: are down, and oh, here he comes. We're gonna get 443 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: her to talk her to sleep. You know, if it's 444 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: starting to look and feel like a possession, you do 445 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: need help, and that help can come in the form 446 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: of friends, family, praying, and find that person that is 447 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: a leader in your faith that will take the time 448 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: to work with you. Now, it may not be local, 449 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: but there are places online that you can find that 450 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: you can reach out to who will send you items 451 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: that will help you in protecting your home, protecting your life, 452 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: protecting your space, and and have faith in where you stand. Now. 453 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, oh boy, she's gonna 454 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: get all religious on us. It's like, you know, hold on. 455 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: You are looking at something you know as the epitome 456 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: of evil. Right, you better hope there is an opposite 457 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: force that could take this on. What that is for you, 458 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: I don't know a pair of shiny shoes. I mean 459 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: you have to realize that these negative things are really 460 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: hoping that we do not turn to their polar opposite, 461 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: and that is light that is God, that is your 462 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: faith in this more powerful being that is good. I'm Christian, 463 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: I go to Jesus, I speak of God. Uh. I 464 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: have friends that have different belief systems and they use 465 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: that as well. And it's about creating this space of 466 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: making something horrific feel uncomfortable. So yeah, I'm not surprised. 467 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: Not Earlier in the first email, Andreas mentioned how he 468 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: was got his hands on some exorcism passages and really 469 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: take this thing off. Well, yeah, that would happen. Um. 470 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't suggest that without the help of clergy, because 471 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: if you're not able to defend yourself against the onslaught 472 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: that will come, you could really really get yourself into 473 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: trouble and cause some serious harm. People die from exorcisms, 474 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: you know that. So don't do that. Um. So yeah, 475 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: find your strength in this trust, in the gift that 476 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: was given to you. Don't let this dark pile of 477 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: garbage mess up this path that was given to you 478 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: with this new lease on life. Look at how many 479 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: people pray for healing from such a horrible diagnosis and 480 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: you were given it. That is a tremendous gift. Don't 481 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: let hat man lead this special gift in any direction 482 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: that isn't meant for you. He does not own you. Okay, 483 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: do God right with this gift? All right? And personally 484 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where you go with it. 485 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Keep in touch and let me know how things are going. 486 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: I love to get feedback, but oddly enough I rarely 487 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: do get feedback or even follow up emails like Andreas 488 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: did here. So I appreciate you Andreas getting back to me. 489 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: And you know, things go well. People just seem to 490 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: move on with their lives, which is great of course. 491 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: Next up, I have a brief email where a gentleman 492 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: witnessed what he believes may have been hat Man. It 493 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: was so brief, so it's left them puzzled. And yeah, 494 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: hat Man doesn't always have to come every day in 495 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: order to be hat Man. You are listening to the 496 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Darker side of life with me, Heidi Hollis on the 497 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a M Paranormal 498 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: podcast network, and we will be right back. Hang in there, Heid, 499 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: He's coming right back on the I Heart Radio and 500 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network. Hey it's you, 501 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: George and Orian. Thank you for listening to the I 502 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a impuanormal podcast net work. 503 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: Here we go with more dark becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 504 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: You are listening to the darker side of life with me, 505 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 506 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome back. Just prior to 507 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: the break, I had a couple of emails from a 508 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: gentleman and his girlfriend who moved from Finland to Portugal 509 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: and had the hat Man hot on their heels. Really 510 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: mind blowing situation, So thank you for that, Andreas. Now 511 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: the next email says, dear Heidie, my name is Nate 512 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: and I was just listening to you on Coast to 513 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: Coast AM. I have a hat Man story. I think 514 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: it was a translucent figure back in during the day 515 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: in my room by the fireplace, standing next to me 516 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: as I was sitting by the computer. The figure seemed 517 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: to be wearing what looked like a hat and long 518 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: coat from the outline that I could see, but I 519 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: saw no other details. It stood to be about six 520 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: ft tall and facing in my direction, and it was 521 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: only maybe four ft from where I was sitting. It 522 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: was a clear, shadowy figure and I looked right at 523 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: it as I felt a really uncomfortable tingling feeling going 524 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: down my back and neck. I immediately told it to 525 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: go take a walk. Please leave my space, I demanded. 526 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: Then I watched it fade away. The whole encounter was 527 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: maybe only thirty seconds or less. Thanks for your time. 528 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: I look forward to your thoughts on this and your response, Nate. Well, Nate, 529 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: that honestly sounds like a typical shadowy hat Man situation. 530 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: I get a lot of those, and imagine everyone, this 531 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: was ten years ago for Nate and it's still fresh 532 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: on his mind that he would even look for someone 533 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: who handles this type of situation. I get so many 534 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: of those, and it's like, you know, was it hat Man? 535 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: You know hat Man doesn't always wear a hat, but 536 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: in this situation, okay, he had a hat and he 537 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: had a long trench coat on. Now that's a typical 538 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: apparition of hat Man. He could wear a trench coat, 539 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: he could wear a cape, uh, sometimes a top hat, 540 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: sometimes of fedora, sometimes a gaucho hat, and as I mentioned, 541 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: no hat at all. People say he's very translucent but shadowy, 542 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: and other times he's just absent of any light just 543 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 1: completely black and the people will sometimes even see Now, 544 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: this is a horrible situation in scenario, but imagine seeing 545 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: his red glowing eyes that that just takes a cake, 546 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: just takes the cake. Now, it can also go where 547 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: you can see every last detail of him, looks like 548 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: a man just standing there. You could see a watch 549 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: on his hip, and the last email Andreas said it 550 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: looked like he had something shiny on a chain that 551 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: is a chained watch. Sometimes he even has a cane. 552 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: Other times people see his skin instead of shadow. They'll 553 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: describe if he's clean shaven, or if he's got a goatee, 554 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: or if he's got a mustache. And unfortunately, when they 555 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: see his skin and they see his eyes, they're usually 556 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 1: solid black. And the feeling that is given off from 557 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: hat Man is unlike anything people have ever experienced. Now. 558 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: Back in the day when I was first introducing shadow 559 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: people and hat Man, I originally called hat Man hat 560 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: Man shadow as if he was just another form that 561 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: shadow people took. Then I got clarity as this guy 562 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: stepped from the shadows to reveal that he had facial 563 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: hair or not, so he became his own entity. And yeah, 564 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: he's related to shadow people in the sense that they 565 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: can do kind of similar things, making people feel paralyzed, 566 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: unable to move or speak or scream, making people feel 567 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: as if their very life is about to end as 568 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: they are bearing witness to the most evil presence. Ever, however, 569 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: when people have experienced shadow people and the hat Man, 570 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: whether together or separate, hat Man hits a whole other 571 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: level of evil and fear and dreading. I didn't hear 572 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: Nate mentioned having this feeling of dread or anything. He 573 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: just spoke of seeing hat Man, And for some reason, 574 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: I understand people don't like to go into details of 575 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: having such fear just come up from the bottom of them, 576 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: just exploding out of their chest. People describe it kind 577 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: of being like a near death experience, believe it or not, 578 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: because the fear is so overwhelming. Now, again, Nate didn't 579 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: go there, didn't go into that, and there's a lot 580 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: of elements that people won't go into detail on that 581 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: I am always suspicious of. But hat Man coming as 582 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: he did in Nate's life, again, I can't help but 583 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: to wonder what attracted him at that moment. Was there 584 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: an illness, was there some major stress going on? And 585 00:46:53,520 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: it's not always that what attracts hat Man. Sometimes him 586 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: Hatman brings those joys with him. He will insinuate and 587 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: instigate something to happen, to have illness, depression, oppress people, 588 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: keep them separate, cause the argument that you have with 589 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: your wife, cause the failure of a class in school, 590 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: cause your anxiety, your depression. He can bring those things. 591 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 1: He can also bring accidents, car accidents, slip and falls, 592 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: and people are like, I got up and lo and behold, 593 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: here's this guy in a hat just standing there, and yeah, 594 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: did he trip someone? I wouldn't put it past him. 595 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: He's capable of a lot of things. So, you know, Nate, 596 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: you question if this was hat Man, and maybe because 597 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: he didn't have fear. That's another thing I get from people. 598 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: They're like, well, he didn't scare me, I was it 599 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: hat Man? I wasn't scared. Well, I don't always get 600 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: scared with these things either, Okay, but if it looks 601 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: like the guy, I'd say it's hat Man. He doesn't 602 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: always boil people over and fear. I don't know why 603 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: that is sometimes for others and the other people are like, 604 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: oh my, this is really through the roof of fear. 605 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's like he was intending for someone else 606 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: walking through the neighborhood and people caught a glimpse. That 607 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: happens quite a bit. This one with Nate seemed really 608 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: particular since he was four feet from you, So I 609 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: would have to wonder why he was there. Is it 610 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: always important to know no sorr as, he hasn't come back. 611 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: If he was a repeat offender in your personal space, okay, 612 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: then i'd have a problem. But it sounds like this 613 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: happened ten years ago, and you're fine right now, but 614 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: you're curious if that was a hat Man situation, And 615 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: I would say it was definitely sounded like him, look 616 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: like him, it didn't quite necessarily feel like him, which 617 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: is fine. Again, that's all right. But yeah, so hat Man, 618 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: he could come in different shapes and forms. He's not 619 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: always six ft tall. I've heard of twelve ft tall. Yeah, 620 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: overly tall. Sometimes when he comes into a room, he 621 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 1: has to crouch down with his back touching the ceiling 622 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: of a bedroom. Can you imagine that the ceiling. Other 623 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: times he's as tall as the trees outside, and that 624 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 1: I've heard of hat Man being about six ft tall. 625 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: That's about the short as I see or here, But 626 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: he also as often the only hat Man. A lot 627 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: of people ask me, is there more than one? Well, 628 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of people say, oh, I saw 629 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: several of them in one room, but that is so 630 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: less likely, so less likely, And the other thing like 631 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: can he be and more than one place at a time. 632 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if he has the polar opposite of 633 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: what is good, God could be in more than one 634 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: place at once, right, And if he is opposite force, 635 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, he could do that. Another important 636 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: element to know about hat Man when it comes to 637 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: shadow people. He seems to be the director of the 638 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: shadow people. And it's not just the shadow people, but 639 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: it's also this grim reaper looking guy and the old 640 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: Hag and aliens. But what what I know? It sounds crazy, 641 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: it sounds complicated, but it happens people have seen hat 642 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Man alongside of all of those things. So what exactly 643 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: is hat Man? How is this all possible? As we 644 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 1: journey forward and I share more of the emails that 645 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: come into me, you will see patterns that are absolutely clear, 646 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: and then sometimes not. He switches it up and then 647 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: he goes right back. It depends on who you're talking to. 648 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: It depends on the stories that I get, but ultimately 649 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: there are answers. There are ways to keep this negative 650 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: force out of your life, and if it's in there, 651 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: how to kick him out. On the next episode, we 652 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: will journey along with a group of friends who stumbled 653 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: upon hat Man in a very strange location. So be 654 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: sure to join me then and send in your stories 655 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: through my main website at Heidi Hollis dot com. You 656 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: have been listening to the Darker Side of Life with me, 657 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio at Coast to Coast, 658 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast network. Let's see you next. Well, if 659 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till 660 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the 661 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast Coast am paranormal podcast network.