1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? DJ? Buck back with you here on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: move the sticks. Buck. We are we're getting close, man. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: The draft is less than two weeks away. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm good. I can't believe that 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: just a week and a half away. It kind of 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: I feel like it kind of crept up on us. 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, maybe because the Super Bowl is longer. 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: I just feel like it's to rush now to get 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: it home. And I find myself on weekends still trying 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: to polish up tape to make sure, like, hey, who 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: can be the surprises? Who are the people that we 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: talk about down the line? To make sure I have 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: something on them? Just that so I'm and you're filling 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: my notebook up with all kinds of names down near 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: the bottom of the board, which is interesting always. 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that time, man. I've been watching all these 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: non combine guys and just trying to pluck a few 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: out of the pile. So you know, it's like one 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: at every ten you watch, you're like, oh, something interesting here? 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, you know, yeah, I start talking yourself into 22 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: somebody when you get down to this this portion of 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: the process. 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 3: But I mean that's where we're at. 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: What did you guys do at the end, Like when 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: would you like with the team you were with. 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: So we would come in, so in Seattle and Carolina respective, 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: we would come in Like you know, it's funny because 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: I always felt like Easter fail somewhere in there. So 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: you come in for maybe like ten days, go home 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: for Easter break, then come back to kind of finish 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: up the rest of the month. Those first two weeks 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: you're kind of redoing the board. You get all the 34 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: pro day information, you're putting all this stuff in. Some 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: of the stuff is beginning to trickle in in terms 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: of the background security reports. You go back for Easter, 37 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: you come back, then the medical comes in that week, 38 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: and then you really get the background report Like now 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: this isn't from the league. This is when your own investigators, 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: everyone has all the other stuff. And this is when 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: you see people mysteriously fall off the board. 42 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: What happened to you know? So this is where we're at. 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: And then you know, like the last week is make 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: making the phone calls, make sure you get all the 45 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: numbers and the you know, uh two numbers, the agent's number, 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: where you're gonna be on Draft Day? Have you had 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: any injuries, any of that last minute stuff. But I 48 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: mean pretty. 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: Much DJ when we reached this week, the Hayes. 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: And the barn I mean, we may not be preview 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: like some of the area scouts may not be privy 52 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: to what the pick is going to be at the top, 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: but a lot of the work is done. You just 54 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: kind of rehashing scenarios to making sure that you're getting 55 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: ready for the logistics of draft day. 56 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I first got into the league, when 58 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: you're kind of just a grunt. I had to for 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: the last week, I had to call all the guys 60 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: on our front board to make sure the number was correct. 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: So we have all the numbers, their phone numbers in 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: the system. So you you had to do that my 63 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: first year in the league. Yeah, my first year, every league. 64 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Every area scout, every area scout had to do the 65 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: guys in their areas. So you get an alphabetical list 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: of the names in your area and you would have 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: to call it or they would just divvy up the list. Hey, Buck, 68 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: you got pages four through eight, Okay, just go through 69 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: and every day like it's just. 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: We might we might have split it up with some 71 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: of the other guys in house. But I remember I 72 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: had a boatload of those dudes that I was calling, 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: and then then I had to double check with the 74 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: agents make sure that this is the right agent with 75 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: the right player, because some of these guys have changed 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: agents and dropped them and all that stuff. But like, 77 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: this is like pre this is pre social media and 78 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: before these guys had any information, So the player would 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you know when if you got ahead of it and 80 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: did it like a week ahead, because almost all the 81 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: teams had to do this. 82 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: M h. 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: But if you're one of the first teams that called them, 84 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: they think you're gonna pick them, like, oh, this is 85 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: my dream to play for the Ravens. Like I'm like, hey, 86 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: but I got to call another fifty guys after hanging 87 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: out with you man, and they were just making sure 88 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: we're good. 89 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Number. You get a backup number where you're gonna be 90 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: on draft day. 91 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm my mom's agent gonna be there, Okay, cool, thanks, Hey, 92 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: good luck. 93 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah that was it. I got a bunch of EAMs 94 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: to go. 95 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: I can't go home until I get through a certain allotment, 96 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: so I'm trying to get trying to get these things 97 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: one percent. 98 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. So that was spent time doing that. 99 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: And then as you got to be a little bit 100 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: more of a veteran, we were we we kind of 101 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: had the rest of the board all set up, but 102 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: it was for that first pick we would always and 103 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I've told this a million times, so we would always 104 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: kind of identify wherever we were picking, like it's going 105 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: to be one of these five or ten players, you know, 106 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: so everybody in the room had to do them if 107 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: you hadn't done them already, and we would just kind 108 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of discuss that first pick at the at the very end. 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: So that was that was pretty much it. But then 110 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: we would chill like the scouts, like we'd be done. 111 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: We'd be in the city. We'd be in Baltimore or 112 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: in Cleveland or Philadelphia, and your work's done. And so 113 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: you'd have like that week of the draft. 114 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: The golf gentlemen, oh, we know, like we would go to. 115 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: Baseball games or were like, uh, go to dinners. We 116 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: played whiffle ball one year, like randomly, I remember, Okay. 117 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes sometimes guys are due like the golf tournament, 118 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: like either a day or two before the draft. They 119 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: want to get together and kind of it's kind of 120 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: low key, like you kind of relaxing now, like it 121 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: is all the way done. You just kind of hanging out, 122 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: like you get a nice, nice meal. I think we 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: would happen. 124 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: We went over to Billock's house in Baltimore. We had 125 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: we had we had a tradition of going to his house. 126 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's since sold it, but his house. 127 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: There was a movie in the maybe maybe late eighties 128 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: early nineties called Her Alibi when Tom Selleck and I 129 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: don't even remember what the movie was about, but it 130 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: was shot at the house that Billock bought and it 131 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: was right and it was unbelievable. He catered it, so, 132 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: I mean it was like the nicest shrimp and everything. 133 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: It was. It was nice. 134 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: It was it was very nice. It was kind of 135 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: his way of thinking everybody for kind of you know, 136 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: making it through the draft process. He didn't that all 137 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the time, but he was a good dude. Yeah. 138 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: I do like like those things because there is that 139 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: camaraderie part of it, you know, because when you're on 140 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: the road, man, it can be a only existence away 141 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: from the team, like you don't really feel like a 142 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: part of the team. So being in the office for 143 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: those times, like multiple weeks in a row, you kind 144 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: of feel like you're a part of the group because 145 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: a lot of times you're you're the lone wolf. You're 146 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: all the way on the West Coast. No one pays 147 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: attention to what you're doing, and they check in, they 148 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: see you reports in those things. But it's it's look, 149 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: it's a it's a different existence, but it can be 150 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: a lot of fun, like getting down to that. And 151 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: then when you get the drafted were you were you guys? 152 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: I guess everyone's kind of liked it. Were you a 153 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: suited and booted team? Like on draft? 154 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: So we were uh. 155 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were dressed in Baltimore, Baltimore, we had to 156 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: dress up a little bit, and then uh in uh gosh, 157 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: same same in Cleveland, and then with uh with Philly. 158 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: Trying to remember Philly, I think was a little more 159 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: dressed down. Maybe not as that's maybe just like a 160 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: polo or something, but I do uh, I do remember, 161 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: and there's video of it, like I used to have 162 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: my first two years. I was maybe even I think 163 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: I might even have done it when i'd moved out 164 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: of the office. But I was on the phone with 165 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: Chad Alexander, who's now the GM of the Chargers. Yeah, Act. 166 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: So Acts would be in New York on the phones, 167 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: and then I would be in the room in the 168 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: draft room on the phone. So once we decided who 169 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: we're going to pick, my job to just make sure 170 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: that that Chad had the right name and spelling and 171 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: all that. 172 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: Hey, make sure we spell it right. Make sure we 173 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: get the card right. A. What I used to love is, hey, 174 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: write these two names down on the card. We don't 175 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: know which one we're gonna pick yet. They just put 176 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: these two names on the card and then we'll call 177 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: you back and we'll tell you what we're doing. 178 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: The teams that trust me, like when you would be 179 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: on the phone trying to make a trade the team 180 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: that's picking, because they used to have them sitting next 181 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: to each other, and there's I know, I can tell 182 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: you stories, but like people would write down a name 183 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: of the player they knew the team behind them wanted 184 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to take, and then try and bait them into trading 185 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: up one spot to take the player. 186 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: So it's always always a bunch of snanis nonsense. 187 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: But today Buck, I want to. I mean had fun 188 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of talking about what we were going and what 189 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: we had going on during this time in the old 190 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: scouting days. But I want to I want to touch 191 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: on something that you brought to my attention, an article 192 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: about US rate of wide receivers. So we're going to 193 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: get to that first round wide receivers and why there's 194 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: risk involved, and maybe we can learn something about what 195 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: they have in common, the guys who haven't worked out. 196 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: And then after that we'll take a break, and then 197 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: I want to I want to hit on maybe some 198 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: teams that have maybe a handful of teams we think 199 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: have to get one specific thing accomplished or they are 200 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: and they're screwed. So they got to get one thing 201 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: for sure accomplished in this draft. But let's let's start 202 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: things off once you tell me a little bit about 203 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: this article, how you stumbled upon it and what you learned. 204 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so, DJ, we had that that time of the year, 205 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: and I don't know if you do this, but this 206 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: is a time where you start reading material because I'm 207 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: just trying to figure out, like you just don't want 208 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: to miss anybody. 209 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: Is there something that I miss? 210 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: Is your name that I miss, is there some kind 211 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: of trend that is kind of emerging that I'm not 212 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: aware of? And so I find this piece in The 213 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: Athletic Dana Roussini was a part of the group that 214 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: they came up with it, and was the bus rate 215 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: of first round receivers. And the article kind of broke 216 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: it down in four different categories, but the thing that 217 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: stood out to me was reaches and bust And I 218 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: think it was like since twenty eleven they had gone 219 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: through done all the research and kind of gone through 220 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: all the first round receivers and kind of put them 221 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: in a category and the number was astonishing based on 222 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: like the reach and the bus rate they combined. For 223 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: about sixty three percent of those first round receivers were 224 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: viewed as either reaches or busts. And to me it 225 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: kind of woke me up. I was like, WHOA, that's 226 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: a significant number. Given what we talked about the first round. 227 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: The first round is kind of like a fifty to 228 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: fifty bus rate the way that we talk about whether 229 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: you can get like a starter, a star, someone that's 230 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: a fringe player or whatever. But as much as we've 231 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: talked about the wide receivers and how deep the wide 232 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: receivers are and this class and loaded in all of 233 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: these things. It kind of brought me back to that 234 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: point where it is so deep. I wonder if people 235 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: are missing the boat by ignoring the first round and 236 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: maybe focusing on finding their wide receivers and stuff in 237 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: the second round, where maybe the risk comes down because 238 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: the amount of money invested kind of goes down, and 239 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: it gives you an opportunity maybe to find those value 240 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: prices because coming from the Green Bay thing, like that's 241 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: what green Bay has always done. They kind of stayed 242 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: away from the first round, but they've been able to 243 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: find starters that have emerged as Star Plus's second, third, 244 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: fourth round. 245 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's just do a little project. Then 246 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: let's go let's not let's go where we have a 247 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: little more data, so let's not do last year. Okay, 248 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: so let's go to twenty two, and I want to 249 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: do two different things here. Look at we can say 250 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe somebody who hasn't worked out and hasn't been maybe 251 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: as valued as where they were picked in the first round. 252 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: And then I want to just give you the names 253 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: of the guys who went in the second round to 254 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: just see what caliber of player is there if you 255 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: elected to pass on that option. All right, all right, 256 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: let's jump into it here. Let's go. Uh So twenty 257 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty two. Drake London, we would say is a hit, right, Yeah, 258 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's a hit. Chris o'lave is a hit. That's 259 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: three for three on those guys. Yeah, Jamison, Jamison Williams 260 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: hasn't you know, he's flashed off the injury suspend I 261 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: can't ski. 262 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't call him a thing. He'd be more incomplete, 263 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: but he wouldn't be a bust because. 264 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: He's not a bust. Johan Dotson, you know, I think 265 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: he's I think he's trending in the right direction. 266 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: He's fine. 267 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they hit a home run. Traylon Burks 268 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: has not worked out so far. So that's your first rounder. 269 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: So let's just let's just say, you know, Williams Dotson, 270 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I still think we're. 271 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: To home one there, something like that. So it would be. 272 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Drake, Garrett Olave. So that's three for sures, and then 273 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: that's two solids and then one who hasn't really hasn't 274 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: got it yet. Yeah, we're worried about a little bit. 275 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: So then but if I give you the names in 276 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: the second round there and I'll just run through them, 277 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: it's Wandale Rominson, John Metchi, Taekwon Thornton, George Pickens, Alec Pierce, 278 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: sky Moore. Those are your second round picks. 279 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: None of those really excited me. 280 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: DJ Yeah, not the sexiest group. 281 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: None of those really excited me. 282 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Let's move back, well just just a few years twenty one, 283 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase home run, Waddle home run, DeVante Smith just 284 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: got paid home run. So what we're seeing, at least 285 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: early on, is those top three guys in those two 286 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: classes have been home runs. 287 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: That yeah, separators, Yeah, the separated so and I think 288 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: in the art of the contention was if you draft 289 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: one into top ten, they're more likely to hit. It's 290 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: the guys that are later the bottom of the first 291 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: round in the teens in twenties where you have some 292 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: of that. 293 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: M Yeah, well that's that's what we're getting because Cadarius 294 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Tony was a miss at twenty. Rashad Bateman hasn't lived 295 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: up to where he was picked there, inconsistent he was 296 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven. So then you go to the second round 297 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: guys Elijah Moore, Rondell Moore, Dwayne Eskridge to two at well, 298 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Terrence Marshall. That's not a great group there either, you know, 299 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: not a great group. So it's like, so anyways, well 300 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: let's let's do one more year then we'll circle back. 301 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: So then we go to twenty twenty, which was the 302 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: huge wide receiver year. Henry Ruggs was the first one. 303 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: Obviously nobody for. 304 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: Said was It's almost it's almost like it almost like 305 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: you got to give them incomplete because that's an off 306 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: the field thing, but on the with. 307 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: A guy who had no no character issues coming out either. 308 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know how you could have foreseen that. 309 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 2: No, I mean, there was no trail, no Brad Crunch 310 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: to show you that this is what was going going 311 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: to happen. 312 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: And I think his I think as a player he 313 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: was you know, he was he was starting to show 314 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: signs he was going to be pretty good. 315 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he has some big some big plays. He 316 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: was showing those things. So we throw Rugs to the side. 317 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, put Ruggs off to the side here, Jerry Judy. No, 318 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: he's already on another team. 319 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: But again, fifteen I know, another team, another team on 320 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: a big contract. 321 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: But you're right, fifteenth pick. 322 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: He certainly in Denver, did not live up or play 323 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: up to expectations. 324 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: He was supposed to be the guy. 325 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: You would think that he would have taken the number 326 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: one role particilely from courting sudden that never materialized. 327 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb home run, Jalen Rager with Justin Jefferson home 328 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: run Brandon Ayuku. I would say home run for where 329 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: he was picked there at twenty fifteen, for sure. So 330 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: the guys that missed there, you've got off the field 331 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: issue with Rugs, You've got Rager. He's a little stiff 332 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: speed receiver. 333 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: Just never worked out. Miss just a mis evaluation, like 334 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: we just missed. 335 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: What about Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy is the one that 336 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I probably have the toughest time reconciling why that didn't 337 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: work out. 338 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: I like ad I liked him a lot coming out. 339 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why it didn't work out, Like I 340 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: don't know if like fit in scheme. I mean he 341 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: had flashes, but you remember the first year he had 342 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: a series of drops and that it never well take 343 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: that back. I maybe ignored the drops that he may 344 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: have had at Alabama. I think you came back and 345 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: pointed out like no, like, remember at Alabama, he had 346 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: a few bobbles and drops in those things. He had 347 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: drops that first year. Remember then the second year he 348 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: came back and was okay, but it just never really 349 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: clicked or popped for him as a number one. And 350 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: so I'll say some of is the players. Some of 351 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: it is also like scheme deployment in those things, but 352 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: it never really worked. 353 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: Was it three two different coaches or three different coaches in. 354 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Three years through it? 355 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 356 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Three? I think, right y, yeah, three three, three different coaches. 357 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: So we go to the second round that year of 358 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:59,239 Speaker 1: that deep class. Michael Pittman, Janault, kJ Hammler, Claypool, Van Van, Jefferson, 359 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Denzel Fuck. I'm looking at that going what we've looked 360 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: on for just a three year sample size. I'm saying 361 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: that a frek I'd be more scared to take it 362 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: one in the second round than I would in the first. 363 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what this exercise has done. It sounds 364 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: nice in theory to talk about the second round and 365 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: third round receivers, but it is a noticeable divide between 366 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: like the top top guys and the overwhelming majority of 367 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: the guys that were taken in the second round. The 368 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: guys at the top of the the top of the draft, 369 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: the wide receivers at the top of the charts. The 370 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: hit rate on those guys has been pretty good. If 371 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: you look at where those guys, particularly if they grade 372 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: out as a top ten talent, those guys have all 373 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: played and played pretty well. You haven't had many errors 374 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: when you've drafted someone in the top ten who's had 375 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: that kind of considerable talents. 376 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's interesting, and I'm going through the third 377 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: round and it's not great there. It's almost to me 378 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: like the receiver position is so deep of names and 379 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: everything that like if you get one of the premier guys, 380 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: get one of the premier guys, but after that, you're 381 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: almost almost, hey, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take two 382 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: of them in like the fourth and fifth round, like 383 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: fourth or sixth round. Just take some flyers on some 384 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: guys in that range. 385 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: So here's the funny thing. I had this conversation, uh, 386 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: with a long time personnel executive, Like this was like 387 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: a year or so ago, and they were saying that 388 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: with the I guess the explosion of the spread offense 389 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: at the collegiate level and how the college game is 390 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: so vastly different than the pro game. It doesn't matter 391 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: whether you take a receiver in the first, second, fourth, 392 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: the the bus rate and the challenge of getting them 393 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: ready to play is the same because most of these 394 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: guys have never taken in a play from the huddle. 395 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: They've all looked to the sideline to look at the placards. 396 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: They have rarely played in a pro style offense that's 397 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: required them to run pro routes, and so the learning 398 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: curve is the same for everybody no matter where they 399 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: come in, and it might explain why sometimes we'll see 400 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: a third or fourth round or a guy like a 401 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: Puka Nakua emerge while a first rounder or a hot 402 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: second rounder struggles because it's still the same. So regardless 403 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: of your talent, the acclimation to the game is a 404 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: huge transition because the game at the pro level is 405 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: so different than the collegiate game that we're seeing. 406 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: So hear me out on this one. Then, if you're 407 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: if what we're looking at is the guys you take 408 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: up in the top ten, the premier guys, it's a 409 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: very high batting average, right, And if we're saying, look 410 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: what the wide receivers are making DeVante Smith's new deal. 411 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: I think it's twenty five million a year. So if 412 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: we're going to say, like, what's the most bang for 413 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: your buck while also being somewhat safe, right, like not missing. 414 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: Top ten, top ten receiver. 415 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to sitting there thinking, we've got teams. 416 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, We've got Arizona, We've got the Chargers, we've 417 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: got the Giants, four, five, six, And I remember we 418 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: did that. Remember the first mock drafts we were doing. 419 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: We were like, we're gonna have receivers go four, five 420 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: and six. And now when you look back on it 421 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: and you're taking this information, it's like, man, that's a 422 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: not only a great player, it's a great value and 423 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: it's a low risk. 424 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: You better, you better grab him early, because like as 425 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: much as we talked about, hey, Arizona, you trade down, 426 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: get a bunch of picks and this, and that you 427 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: come back and get your need, the odds suggests that 428 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: you're not going to fill. 429 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: It, that you're not you're not gonna get the same 430 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: kind of player. 431 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: And it's funny, how like when you read those names 432 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: off now where we're not emotionally attached to them, in 433 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: this draft class. None of those names were like ooh, 434 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: I got it. 435 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: I have to get him. Uh, Nobille put one aim 436 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: in like Christian Watson. 437 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: But he's been good. He hasn't been. 438 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's the only one. But like, I just 439 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: want to give no Bill like a little credit. He 440 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: chimed in with his packer love. So I want to 441 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: make sure that it was recognized. But I think now, 442 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: when you take away the emotional part of looking at 443 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: those guys that were taken in the second and third. 444 00:19:54,160 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: Round, maybe we over value those guys. 445 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: Take and like, for instance, like yesterday, I spent a 446 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: lot of time looking at Jermaine Burton, right, I was 447 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: looking at Jamain Burn because I'm trying to figure out, like, okay, 448 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: which of these second and third round guys is going 449 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: to be the one that gives you the tank deal stuff? 450 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: Right, So I'm looking at him. I'm like, all right, man, 451 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 452 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: Like he's averaged over twenty yards per catch last year, 453 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: he's averaging the high teens for most of his career 454 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: at Georgia, at Bama. 455 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: He has speed, he has all this other stuff. 456 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, you give me these second round 457 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: names like what separates him from Escridge, what separates him 458 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: from Scott Moore, We separates him from you know, some 459 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: of the other guys that haven't had the burst in 460 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: those things. And I think it requires everybody to do 461 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: a deeper dive in terms of what really plays, not 462 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: what plays at the position, but what impact. 463 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: Players are at the position. 464 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: What are the common traits where you're getting the impact 465 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: players that are drafted outside of the first round, and 466 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: can we find any of those guys? Everyone's excited about 467 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: poking the cool and so now the conversation has been 468 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: how were we gonna find the next one? 469 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: But the Jay I've said this and we've talked about it. 470 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: As much as we love to find the hidden gems 471 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: in the draft, this league is a first and second 472 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: round league. It's a league where when you look at 473 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl list and those things, those lists are 474 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: littered with typically first and second rounds and really first rounders. 475 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: And so when we talk about the first round of 476 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: the draft, you better make sure that you get it 477 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: right in the first round because those are the guys 478 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: that are typically going to be the impact players on 479 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: your team and the ones that last for the longest 480 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: time in the league. 481 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: No question. Well, it's a fun conversation. It's a great point. 482 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. Fun to dig into 483 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: that one. Let's say quick break, we'll come back. We'll 484 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: identify a couple of teams that have a a must 485 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: do list, not a to du list, a must do list. 486 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't get to that right after this, All right, Buck, 487 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: let's do uh, let's do two teams in each conference, 488 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: so just four total teams here, teams that have something 489 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: that they absolutely must get accomplished in this draft. So 490 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: if we're gonna start in the AFC, I'll give you 491 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: some time to think here, and I'll give you mine 492 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: of a team that has to get something accomplished. I'm 493 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: gonna go to the I'm gonna go to the Pittsburgh 494 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Steelers here. Maybe a little bit of off the grid. 495 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: When you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, they made the 496 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: two moves, right, You get Russell Wilson, you get Justin Fields, 497 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: but they trade Deontay Johnson. You know, George Pickens, it 498 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: seems like has been somewhat in the doghouse out of 499 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: the doghouse during his time there. I just look at 500 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: that and and I go, okay, I like, you know, 501 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: low cost editions of quees, Watkins and Van Jefferson, But 502 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: there is not enough here offensively at that position. There 503 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: is not enough firepower, especially in the AFC that's as 504 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: stacked as it is. They to me have. And I 505 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's at twenty. You know, we've talked 506 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: about offensive line for them. Potentially maybe they go in 507 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: another direction. They need some impact. They didn't impact receiver 508 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: man ad mm so. 509 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing is you're saying you want to 510 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: try it out. Brian Thomas Jr. And George Pickens uh 511 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: two long striders. 512 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: They side with Russell Wilson and launching rainbows out there 513 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: and justin fields. 514 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: So as we're thinking about it, they talked about being 515 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: more committed to the running game. We're gonna run the football. 516 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith comes in there. You think about, okay, let's 517 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: how do we build this offense. Even though we're saying 518 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: Russell maybe on a short term plan. What did Russell 519 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: have when he was at his best right? And so 520 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 2: then you look at, oh, he had a long receiver 521 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: like DK Metcalf when he was throwing those deep balls, 522 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: frying him down the field. He had fast athletic guys 523 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: like Tyler Lockett, he had Doug Ball when he was crafty. 524 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: He looked he did a lot with your main curse 525 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: on the outside, like he's had some bigger guys. So 526 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: maybe that is the way to stillers go saying, hey, 527 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: we'll get outside. We can come back and get an 528 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: interior block, a tackle or whatever in the second round 529 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: and be able to do it because you're right this division, 530 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: we talk about building your team to win the division. 531 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: This division, the Cincinnati Bengals, look, they have firepower on offense, 532 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be able to outscore. Then when 533 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: it comes to Joe Burrow, the Cleveland Browns arguably have 534 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 2: the best roster in the division. And then you know, 535 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: look Baltimore Lamar Jackson coming off MVP season, they're still 536 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: looking to flip the wide receiver room to make this 537 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: offense probably more modern or more past centric. You better 538 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: have enough fire priwer because you're not gonna be able 539 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: to keep the points down. You got to be able 540 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: to kind of put points on the board. 541 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: And I know people are going to say, you guys 542 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: just did a whole segment on receivers and risk outside 543 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the top ten. But I'm sitting here going, well, there 544 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: have been some exceptions, and you're hoping for one here 545 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, there's a home run of home runs. Maybe 546 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you've got to go shopping at the same store, Buck. 547 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: Maybe you got to go back to LSU and go 548 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: grab Brian Thomas if he gets in range. I don't 549 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: know he's going to get there, but that'd be awfully 550 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: hard to turn down, knowing the lack of firepower they 551 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: have on the outside. 552 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they have to do it because they have 553 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: forever moved on the inside. They have George Pickens, but 554 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: is he ready to be the number one receiver? I 555 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: believe they moved Deontay Johnson out of there just because, look, 556 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: you no longer a fit. I would say maybe culturally, 557 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: like there were some things that kind of emerged, like 558 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: maybe he and George Pickens just you know, maybe some 559 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: of the selfishness to Anti just didn't work for the team. 560 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: Maybe you just kind of reset the position trying and 561 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: find another playmaker that you compare opposite George Pickens. 562 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: All right, so give me a team here, a team 563 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: in the AFC. One one particular thing they've got to 564 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: get done, could be obvious, could be off the. 565 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: Bills, the Buffalo Bills. I mean, so here here's my 566 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: thing with the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills. 567 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: At the bottom of the first round, you got rid 568 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 2: of your number one receiver and Stefan Diggs. I mean, 569 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: you really don't have another guy in the building, Gabby Davis. Yeah, 570 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: you let him walk out. I mean last year you 571 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: brought Dalton Kin Caden, so you solid at tight end. 572 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: But what are we doing on the outside. How are 573 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: we going to win If we're counting on Josh Allen 574 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: to do Patrick Mahomes like things. 575 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: Man, what are the receivers that are gonna help him 576 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: do that? 577 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: You know, because we can't just have him running around 578 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: making plays and doing it in a Sandloi fashion. They 579 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: have to find some route runners, some guys that consistently 580 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: get open and do it. And DJ the problem that 581 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: you have is you're sitting down there at the bottom 582 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: of the first round. We talked about the bus rate 583 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 2: increasingly increasing significantly when you're in the twenties, and so 584 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: if we take Brian Thomas off the board and we 585 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: got a d Mitchell, I mean you talk about lab 586 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: of KANKI you talk about Keyan Coleman or whatever you 587 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: want to do it. Are we confident that we can 588 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: identify the guy at the bottom of the first round 589 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: that is kind of like the sleeper pick that's going 590 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: to emerge as a number one receiver. 591 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. And I think they picked sixty, right, 592 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: that's their second round pick. Yeah, so yeah, I'll be 593 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: interesting to see if they go with one of these. 594 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: They got a lot of holes. Man, It's not even 595 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: just that wide receiver position. There's so many other holes 596 00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: that they've got to fill. 597 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's not only just wide receiver, both safeties, secondary. 598 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: You lose Leonard Floyd, you need another pass rusher. I'm 599 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: be honest. 600 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't love I don't love the offensive line. 601 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm be honest with you. 602 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: A team that is has been heled as a Super 603 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: Bowl contended for the last two three years, you're looking 604 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: at the roster as president constructed, You're almost seeing no way. 605 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: There's no way they're gonna be able to do it 606 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: unless they are able to get some blue chip players 607 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: to come in there. Because they're strapped from the cap standpoint, 608 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: and so This is really hard. It's gonna be a 609 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: challenge for Brandon being a company to be able to 610 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: get this one right. 611 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. When I go to another team 612 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: here in the let's go over to the NFC. Will 613 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: each pick a team here in the NFC that has 614 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: something to get accomplished. This one, I mean, it's not 615 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: going to be addressed in the first round. But if 616 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you looked at the Dallas Cowboys running back depth chart, 617 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: not good. Their starter is not on their team right 618 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: now now, I'm right, right now. 619 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: Theyre talking about Deuce Faon, They're talking about having a 620 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: reunion with Ezekiel Elliott and those things. But DJ, I'm 621 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna say this, and it's common. It has always been 622 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: the thing for the Dallas Cowboys. When you look at 623 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: the Cowboys when they've been at their best, they have 624 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: stood running back behind that Dak presk I mean, I 625 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: mean you go back to DeMarco Murray, who wasn't with 626 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, but they had a legitimate running back to 627 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: compliment the quarterback. So Murray, Ezekiel Elliott, they have to 628 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: go and get a Baill cow The issue that I 629 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: have I look at this draft, I don't. I don't 630 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: know if I see one, you know, I don't know 631 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: if I see one that can come and save the day. 632 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: And on path today I was like, oh, yeah, Trey Benson, 633 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: you know, but Trey Benson doesn't have like that kind 634 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: of pedigree on paper. 635 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: To say that he can be that DJ. I don't know. 636 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: So we say they got to get a bail cow 637 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: running back. If you're pressed right now, and they're like, 638 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: hey man, you got fifteen seconds to pick a running 639 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: back for the Dallas Cooutboys. 640 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Who would be the. 641 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Pick I'm taking Marshawn Lloyd. That's who I'm taking from USC. 642 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know to me, when you look at it, 643 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: there's a four or five of them that are kind 644 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: of similarly graded. Benson's in that mix as well. If 645 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: you're Dallas. Here's the decision that Dallas is. This is 646 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the toughest decision they're going to have to make. They're 647 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: not going to take one with the twenty fourth pick, 648 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: but they have to decide fifty six. They might have 649 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: their choice of any of them, right they get their 650 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: top guy. Did they sit there and say, well, between 651 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: fifty six in the second round, we pick eighty seven 652 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: in the third round. Is the run gonna finish before 653 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: we get to eighty seven? Like, say we have five 654 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: running backs, we like they're all there at fifty six. 655 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: Is there a hope that we get one of them 656 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: there at eighty seven or do we get I don't 657 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: think they can gamble. I think they have to take 658 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: one at fifty six. 659 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: I think it has to be a second round pick. 660 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: I think they have to position themselves say we don't 661 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: really want to take a pick and knee, but in 662 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: the second round they have say we committed taking a 663 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: running back, and depending on how the draft is breaking, 664 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, there's a little run that starts 665 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: taking place at forty five. A man, we gotta get up. 666 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: We gotta make sure we get a running back. And 667 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: I would say this DJ, I think they need too. 668 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: I think they have to double up. I think they 669 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 2: need to take one in the second round to come 670 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: back in the fourth or fifth round and take another one. 671 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: You know, someone that can play, maybe you go to 672 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: the sixth round. They need to see if they can 673 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: find a hidden gym that can emerge as a guy 674 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: that can be a legitimate workhorse running back for him. 675 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't like the committee situation, even though everyone is 676 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: going to it, I believe they need someone who opponents 677 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: fear so that can alleviate some of the pressure on 678 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. 679 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's going to be fascinating there. All right, 680 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: you're the last one here. Give me one more team 681 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: in the NFC that you think has something that they 682 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: absolutely must get accomplished in this draft class. 683 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so my initial inkling was to talk about the 684 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings and quarterback, but I don't know if that's 685 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: necessarily true. I'm not a Sam Donald apologist, but I 686 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: feel like they have enough that they should be able 687 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: to kind of get. 688 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: If Sam can't do with this group, then it's not 689 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: going to happen. So what's our last hope for those 690 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: of us that are still still waving the flag? Was 691 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: just like this is the last shot here. 692 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: It's all over. So here's what I'm saying. 693 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the Atlanta Falcons finding a pass rush. 694 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: And the reason why because on paper, the Atlanta Falcons 695 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: look like they should be ready to go with Kirk Cousins, 696 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: that Kirk Cousins should be able to put this team 697 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: in a position to get the ten by himself in 698 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: terms of like what they have on offense, be John 699 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: Robinson running back straight London. Hopefully they'll finally get the 700 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: ball to col Pits and they should be able to 701 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: go to got Darniel Muney. So offensively they're good. But 702 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: to win in this league, if you have a good offense, 703 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: you got to have closers. I don't know who their 704 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: closers are. So can they get the closer at pick 705 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: eight and they find someone that can give them double 706 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: digit sacks that you can count on? And remember, Man, 707 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: the Falcons, it's kind of been a black hole for 708 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: pass rushers. They like, they've tried this the last three, 709 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: four or five years. They haven't been able to get it. 710 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: They have to find a legitimate high end pass rush. 711 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: They're picking up there at eight. They're going to have 712 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: more than likely their choice of any of them. So 713 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: they're all going to be there for them. They just 714 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: got to pick the right one. But that I think 715 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. I like that one, all right. 716 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: Buck. 717 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: That's that's all we've got for today. Anything else you 718 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: want to get into before we get out of. 719 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: Here, Man, ten days, ten days we can have before 720 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: the draft goes when you leave to go. 721 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: To Detroit Sunday. I think I head out there Sunday, 722 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: so I'll be out there all week. So I haven't 723 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: even looked at a weather report yet. I don't know 724 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: what we're looking at. I guess could kind of go 725 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: either way that part of the country during this time 726 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: of the year. So hope for the best. They're say 727 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: you that much, I will say I've I've changed over 728 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: the years. I used to I used to go full 729 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: suits at these things, and then I realized, there's the 730 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: days are so long and you're sitting at a desk 731 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: the whole time. So I've kind of more I mean, 732 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: not like jeans, but the you know, more of those 733 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: athletic pants, you know, like golf pants. Yeah, that's I 734 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: went to the store this weekend, loaded up on a 735 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: couple more of those. I got, got comfortable shoes. Gotta 736 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: have the comfortable shoes, comfortable pants, and then everything up 737 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: here is business. We're acts down below. 738 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: We're a TV anchorman, Yeah, TV anchorman. We're sports anchor 739 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: in a KKL. 740 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: Kt l A. We're doing it. We're making sure that 741 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: we looked apart up top. 742 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: Don't comfortable be comfortable, long day. 743 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: Super long day, so it should be fun. 744 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to it all right. I hope you 745 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this one. We appreciate you leaving us ratings 746 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: and reviews, especially during this time. You're getting the word out. 747 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: If you haven't done that already, we encourage you to 748 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: do so we will see you next time. We've got 749 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: a couple more episodes coming this week. We've got I've 750 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: got a conference call episode Buck. Then we've got our 751 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: friend Times is going to join us. So three episodes 752 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: this week with a stick. So appreciate everybody hanging with us, 753 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time. 754 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: Writing