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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, It's Sam with two live show announcements. The

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Speaker 1: first one is that my dear and loving co host

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Speaker 1: George Severs is workshopping his new hour stand up in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles on November twenty ninth at the Allegian Theater.

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Speaker 1: He has special guests Jamie Loftus and Nori Reid, and

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Speaker 1: tickets are available on the Allegian website. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a damn good show if you ask me,

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Speaker 1: so get tickets to that. And the second one is

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Speaker 1: that you know, real fans know, I was in the

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Speaker 1: hospital and had to reschedule my Chicago Club comic, but

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Speaker 1: it has a new date, and that is December seventh,

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Speaker 1: still at the Color Club and still with Parker Callahan opening.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually not sick anymore, and in fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: stronger than I've ever been, and in fact, it's scary

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Speaker 1: how many things I'm breaking in my home due to

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Speaker 1: my newfound strength. So tickets are available for that in

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Speaker 1: my bio and on the Color Club website. And so

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Speaker 1: if you're in LA at the end of November, go

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Speaker 1: see George. And if you're in Chicago on December seventh,

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Speaker 1: come see me and With that being said, I enjoy

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Speaker 1: the episode Sweethearts xoxo Sam. Podcast starts now, Wow, wow, Wow,

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Speaker 1: we are coming at you live from Midtown.

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Speaker 2: Thank God. This morning, when I woke up and I

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Speaker 2: wasn't in Midtown, I started crying, and then my wife

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Speaker 2: had to come into bed and say, you're going into

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Speaker 2: Midtown in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How has Marissa been?

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Speaker 2: You know, not good. She's still struggling with all her

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Speaker 2: medical issues.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad. Yeah, her really slippery feet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm doing Munchausen to her and not poisoning

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Speaker 2: her slowly every day so I can finally come out

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Speaker 2: as LGBTQ.

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Speaker 1: Well, I look forward to the day, you can. You know,

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Speaker 1: I actually do the spirit of Midtown. It does live

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Speaker 1: through me when I am walking around. There's something so

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Speaker 1: comforting about seeing these little businessmen and their little business.

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Speaker 1: I saw a guy yelling into his AirPods being like,

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Speaker 2: You know what I saw the other day someone a

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Speaker 2: woman walking down the street and she goes into the phone,

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Speaker 2: well just let us know if fresh air says yes,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm sorry, can you stop walking? Right?

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Speaker 2: The second Missy turn around and we're getting dranks because

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Speaker 2: I need to know who your client is and if

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Speaker 2: Fresh Air is saying yes or no.

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Speaker 1: This is actually really interesting. Yeah, okay, there's people really

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Speaker 1: glamorize sort of the artists, sort of the performer. You know,

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Speaker 1: how amazing your life must be. I think actually the

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Speaker 1: dream life is being like an agent or manager and

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Speaker 1: yelling on the phone about like the big deals.

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Speaker 2: An agent of a big star. You're not trying to

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Speaker 2: make your client's career happen. They're happening. They're already, Kate Lenchette,

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Speaker 2: and it's your job to get them on the red

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Speaker 1: Because you are literally that's one of those sexless city jobs.

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Speaker 2: It is, but you know what, it's also thankless job.

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Speaker 2: It must be said. These are people who, yes, they're yelling,

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Speaker 2: but they're also being yelled at all day.

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Speaker 1: Okay. But also they get like paid normally.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's true. Yeah, well not as much as Kate.

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Speaker 2: But no, I see what you're saying. Yes, they are

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Speaker 2: And yet even when you're at the top of your game. Basically,

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Speaker 2: You are always the liaison, you are always the You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you put it like that, it's

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Speaker 1: the saddest story ever told. Well, actually it's.

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Speaker 2: A tragedy, Greek tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the darkest things I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: I guess my condolence is to all agents out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same, you've.

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Speaker 1: Wanted your whole life and you'll never get what you're

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Speaker 2: Well do you think they want? But maybe it's that

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Speaker 2: they like being you know how people are like. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a connector. I like to connect. I like to

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Speaker 2: without me, Actually, all of society crumbles. Sure, it's like

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Speaker 1: You know, my parents used to say this thing that

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Speaker 1: the agent's mantra because it's like, you have power, you

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Speaker 1: are a large house. Yeah, but there's always going to

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Speaker 1: be a bigger house, and that bigger house is Cap Blanchett.

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Speaker 2: No, it's true. And also, by the way, you know, yes,

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Speaker 2: you're not Cap Blynchett, but you know, you are the

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Speaker 2: CEO of Cape Blanchette, and in some ways that's more

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Speaker 2: powerful than being Kate Lunchett of course. And also if

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Speaker 2: you have multiple clients, then it's like, well Cap Blanchette

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Speaker 2: is just Cap Blanchett, but you're Cape Lunchette. Andrew Anymara, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's true. Yeah, Okay, I have something I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about. What is it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk to you about. I feel

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Speaker 1: that Let's Go Girls is trending.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's crazy because I literally used to say Let's

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Speaker 2: go Girls all the time, and then I stopped because

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was no longer trending.

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Speaker 1: No, it's trending big time. Real, Let's Go Girls is trending. Methinks,

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Speaker 2: Okay, can I say something about I want to hear

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Speaker 2: more about let's go girls, But this is really I

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Speaker 2: have a whole theory. Okay, well then tell me your theory.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So my theory is that you know LGBTQ plus yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: lingo has been trendy, trendy, trendy since the rough Qualification

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Speaker 1: it's laying boots down and now, like I feel like

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Speaker 1: let's go. Let's fucking go. So they so straight guys

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Speaker 1: are saying let's go, like that's we're all gonna have

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Speaker 2: Well, LEFG is trending all of that, Okay, it's all

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Speaker 1: And then LGBTQ plus have heard that and are reinterpreting

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Speaker 1: this thing happened in the past where Friends was a

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Speaker 1: But I was always like, that's insane. They just made

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Speaker 1: friends like three ways removed. Yeah, and that's sort of

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Speaker 1: what Let's Go Girls is.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So there's just a real cultural exchange. I mean

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Speaker 2: it of course complicates the narrative of cultural appropriation if

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Speaker 2: it's back and forth, and you can't actually trace something

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Speaker 2: conservative because you're like, well, it's based on ownership and

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Speaker 2: you are not in this person's land. They own this land.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what to take away from that.

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Speaker 2: So this is interesting because I almost have the opposite

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Speaker 2: thing that I've been noticing, and I want your take

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Speaker 2: on it. I'm scared which is And so when you

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Speaker 2: online memes. Yeah, so there's you know, it's girl dinner,

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Speaker 2: it's boy logic. It's like girl dad, boy mom, boy dad.

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Speaker 2: The way that while we have been doing our own

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Speaker 2: fully recommitting to traditional gender and actually making it sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying we were too busy standing home, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's just sort of crazy, Like it's what we talk

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Speaker 1: Well, it's also people our age, you know, being like

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Speaker 1: like easier to lean into the stuff. Yes, like now

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, I guess my role is this, and

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Speaker 2: And there is a sort of with some people. I

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Speaker 1: That's the girl, dad boy dad exact stuff. There's like

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Speaker 2: It's playful, and it's also like, okay, here's something. It's

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Speaker 2: like guys are age that are dads then become like

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Speaker 2: I love a good dad movie, like oh Dad jokes,

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm wearing such dad pants. And you're like, at

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Speaker 2: what point are you gonna start voting Republican.

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Speaker 1: Because it'll start out ironic. It'll start ironic. Yeah, you'll

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Speaker 1: literally be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my classic dad vote. And it's like for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: People are like making TikTok, like doing my dad vote.

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Speaker 1: It's like the most Republican person on earth, it's Pence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's someone being like at the insurrection and being

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Speaker 2: like Dad rally. So I don't know where I like

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Speaker 2: I a sort of don't know what the end game is.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, people are really feeling comfortable with girl Boy

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Speaker 2: Man Woman, which is sort of isn't that a isn't

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Speaker 2: that a film? No? Man Woman Dinner? You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about? Eat Pray Love, Eat Pray Love, I

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Speaker 2: eat drink Man Woman? Yeah? Is that it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Ok eat drink Man Woman. Is the name of a movie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's some Now you know he did Brooke Back Mountain.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you said it's on Glee.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's angry and it's a it's sort

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Speaker 2: of a classic. Actually, Oh okay, well he's sort of

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Speaker 2: pioneered in some ways Girl Dad and Boy Dad by

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Speaker 2: naming is movie Man Woman. I forgot it again, Drink

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Speaker 2: Man Woman actually talk about girl dinner? Did Angley invent

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Speaker 2: girl Dinner? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, I wanted to say, but isn't that

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Speaker 1: how every generation works? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, Carly Merouley.

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Speaker 2: Hello, what's up, Cheeka?

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Speaker 3: How's it going so good? Oh my god, it was

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Speaker 2: Do you think that, in on average, are we moving

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Speaker 3: I'm well versed in all all of the genders.

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Speaker 3: We learn at the end not to pick one to

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Speaker 1: Well you know, it's that the power creps absolutely, And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're like well, they get a little taste

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Speaker 3: No, they have to be like I'm in I'm in control, yeah,

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Speaker 4: The other day, this this girl who like gets like

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Speaker 3: Uh no really not really huh yeah, you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: In what way would Lord use social media? Though? When

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Speaker 1: It, to post so that Lord can stun a new selfie?

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Speaker 2: She's not gonna Oh, she's gonna post a selfie and

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Speaker 4: Own like three million follower account. It's not the same

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Speaker 1: But for Lord three million feels like when we get

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Speaker 3: Right, Maybe that's why she had to stop.

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Speaker 1: That's right, do it. You're not Gaga. And if you're.

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Speaker 2: Not Beyond, if you're Beyonce, you're not like prince.

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Speaker 3: And if you're prince, you're not Malia Obama.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how would Melia be a prince?

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Speaker 2: who's everything hierarchy? I guess that is sort of true.

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Speaker 2: Right now. Yeah, And it came out the prince was

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Speaker 2: Like I hat Joni Mitchell. Maybe well okay, well but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the most That's why this medium is

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Speaker 3: No, but you have to pretend if you do that's true.

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Speaker 2: You have to take it to ma.

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Speaker 1: That's a third tenant, you know us outside of podcasting. Hello,

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Speaker 1: do you think our demeanors change? Do you think we

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Speaker 2: Being well, then we're failing because we're trying. We're trying.

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Speaker 3: You're trying.

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Speaker 2: We're trying really hard. We're trying really hard to be

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Speaker 1: That's okay. So we were over yeah, yeah, hold on.

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Speaker 1: I was with Meryl Streep and goes with Meryl whoa

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Speaker 2: Was going topless and we were like Meryl.

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Speaker 1: You know, seriously, I could show you the pictures, but

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Speaker 3: So what what's that?

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Speaker 4: Next year, it's at like factory settings. Right now, we

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Speaker 2: It's actually made of really expensive Italian marble, but it's.

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Speaker 1: You're right, hold on, Okay, So it would be more like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, flying coach by choice, flying coach. We flew coach

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Speaker 2: And we had some time because this friend is on strike.

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Speaker 3: Do like a like a stand up tour.

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Speaker 2: To make up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's too bad that she didn't do a stand.

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Speaker 1: Know, let's just say that.

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Speaker 2: Really seemed okay, now we seemed important. That seemed very

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Speaker 2: important and really important. Okay, wait, so here's my final

435
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: proposition for how to be important. There is acting really important,

436
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: which is like yelling you don't have a phone whatever.

437
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: There's acting completely normal. Actually, the best way to be

438
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: important is you're acting completely normal, but at the smallest

439
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Speaker 2: change you become crazy.

440
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Speaker 3: I think.

441
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: Erratically a level of important. I think there's even maybe

442
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Speaker 4: a level of seeming important past that where it's like,

443
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Speaker 4: you know, you're so important that you're like really trying

444
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: to seem normal and humble, you know what I mean,

445
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: where it's like you're so important that you're like, oh,

446
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 4: I'll get the door.

447
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: Oh that's like, yeah, Keanu Reeves's style.

448
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: You're trying to dip down into like really normal, mundane

449
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: stuff because you're just so important.

450
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: You like take the subway and everyone's like totally.

451
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: And either because you know it's going to make you

452
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: seem really humble and it's gonna be like huge, or

453
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Speaker 4: you know.

454
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Speaker 1: You just you know, that's sort of like today, I

455
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: took the subway here and oh, you know, I actually

456
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: was like people are staring.

457
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to take a little classroom to

458
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: a podcast totally.

459
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's also like acting normal and then trying to

460
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: do a normal thing and not knowing how to do it,

461
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: Like trying to open a door and being and I'm

462
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: like thinking all doors are like motion sensitive or something

463
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: and be like hello in front of me, or like

464
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: everyone's sharing something at the dinner table, but you have

465
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: not been to a normal restaurant in seventeen years because

466
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: you're Beyonce, and so you just like said, take the

467
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: bread and start biting into it. Just like not knowing

468
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: basic things like that is actually the biggest flex is

469
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: is basically hisph Yeah, like not literally, it's like not

470
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: knowing sort of acting like you.

471
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: Are well, it's almost like your foreign.

472
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: Someone that needs a conservatorship.

473
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: Right, You're almost like a city.

474
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 4: You kind of dip your toe into normalcy exactly, Like

475
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 4: all these things are so taken care of for me,

476
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: but it's like kind of implicitly my job to pretend

477
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: that they are not.

478
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: You only have a bottle of water, like and how

479
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: does it work? And where's there's so much?

480
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: Who's there?

481
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: It's someone who like has acted normal for a full

482
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: three hours and then takes off their Jackelin throws it

483
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Speaker 2: in the trash.

484
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: Because he's like, there's a new jacket for tomorrow. Where

485
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: Tomorrow's jacket Tomorrow, it's not something I have to hang on.

486
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: To Tomorrow's jacket. I love their first album, Get it.

487
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 4: Tomorrow Tomorrow's jacket, remember them, Yeah, was crazy?

488
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Two in ten was crazy.

489
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: Should we do our first segment?

490
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

491
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: I rememberhen they brought out caron.

492
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's jacket. They brought I fucking cried. I was fucking crying.

493
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: It was crazy. And they did They did an ironic

494
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: cover of jingle bells. And it was July.

495
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: It was they were doing in July.

496
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: So they were Carl, It's time for our first segment,

497
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: and this segment is called straight Shooters. And in this segment,

498
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: we ask you a series of rapid fire questions where

499
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: you have to choose one thing or another thing to

500
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: gage your familiarity with incomplicity in straight culture. And the

501
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: one rule is you can't ask any full of questions.

502
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: And if you do, I will actually commit violence to

503
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: a person in this room. But I won't see Oh

504
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: my god, yeah one of the workers. All right, Carly,

505
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: baking brownie in your oven, or making memories with your

506
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: girls who you call the coven.

507
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: I'm making memories of my girls who I call the coven.

508
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Carly Jacob a lordie or lordy, lordy, Mommy's turning forty.

509
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: Lordy, lord turning forty absolutely, Carly Dane Cook's twenty four

510
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: year old wife, or great books will help you lead

511
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: a better life.

512
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to say Dane Cook's twenty four

513
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: year old wife.

514
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: She's a nicon. She's a legend for a reason, honestly,

515
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: good for her. She may.

516
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: She rus oh brother, okay, Carly Columbia law, or come

517
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: get you some slaw.

518
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: Come get you some slaw eloping in Niagara Falls, or

519
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: hoping he will call, Oh.

520
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: My god, it's gotta be hoping he will.

521
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: Call, Yeah, keeping feral cats or seeing Meryll.

522
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: Act keeping farrel cats?

523
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Cheryl Crow, Cheryl Strad, Cheryl Sandberg, Cheryl Lee Ralph,

524
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: or sure, I'll come to your book event. It's not

525
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: like I have a life or anything.

526
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say one of the only ones that I

527
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: recognized from that list, which is shell.

528
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Crow, okay, Heaven in Hell or Keenan in Kel.

529
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: Thank you. That was so good that I'm almost like,

530
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: is Keenan and Kel a pun on heaven and Hell? No?

531
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: No, because it's just their names, that's like their names

532
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: in real life.

533
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: Maybe they they sought out people named words that rhymed

534
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: with heaven and Hell, and they were like, we got

535
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: so lucky that we found Keenan in Cown.

536
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's scary.

537
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: Or maybe they lucked out had someone named Keenan, had

538
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: someone in kill and they were like, oh my god,

539
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: I know the perfect name for the show. It rhymes

540
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: with heaven and hell.

541
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: But there was no heaven or Hell imagery.

542
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 5: I really think it's acident one to one rhyme they

543
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: were going for that. It was more about which actually

544
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: has a name that actually should have been Kevin.

545
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: Keenan should have changed his name to Kevin. He does

546
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: not take his career seriously. He's lazy. He is so lazy.

547
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Talk about someone who does not work hard and does

548
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: not have a good reputation.

549
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: And he's definitely still using his own phone.

550
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have to stop that asap. Definitely, So Carli,

551
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: we rank our guests on scale of one thousand doves. George,

552
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: what do you think.

553
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean the way that that started and ended and

554
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: it was almost like I barely registered it. I'm not

555
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: saying that it's a bad thing. I think you were

556
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: like sort of like moving it along, but I am

557
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: do you feel like you actually barely remember what our

558
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: straight shooters were or what was.

559
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: So you're saying, maybe it's even our fault, toxic efficiency culture.

560
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually think we fed into it too.

561
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: We well, we forgot to I forgot to stop and

562
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: smell the roses. I forgot to react. I was really

563
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: like looking down at my phone and just like next, next.

564
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Next, being weird enough.

565
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: We were not, No, we were not. We were being sorry.

566
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean called Pete Holmes because somebody's got to

567
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: make us weird.

568
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: You didn't make it weird.

569
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: We did not make it weird. I mean I almost

570
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: think the only way forward is to actually have Carly

571
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: rate us on a scale of one to one thousands.

572
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, Carly.

573
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: How do we do? How do we do?

574
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: A thousand doves?

575
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you? See, and this is why this is power.

576
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: This is of us.

577
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: It's like you, the fact that you're afraid of us.

578
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm pulling my fingernails off under the table. You can't see,

579
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: so it's a thousand doves.

580
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Honestly, I've been saying this a lot as like a

581
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: little as imagery. One of my favorite tropes is hurting yourself,

582
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: like the idea that you're like stabbing yourself on, stabbing

583
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: your leg under the table, or like sort of making

584
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: fists so much that you stab your fail. Like it's

585
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: such a powerful image to be someone trying to be calm.

586
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: And something that you can do it.

587
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Something, you can do it anytime. You can just hurt yourself.

588
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

589
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: Instance, it's like if you don't care so much about that,

590
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: then it's fun exactly.

591
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

592
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I pull my little calluses.

593
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: You callouses, so you pull, yeah, well, from.

594
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: All the from all the work you from all the

595
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: blue collar work you do.

596
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, from all the pipe and.

597
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I have a lot of calluses on my hands. My

598
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: hands are quite callous from the pipes, so I pull

599
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: on the calluses. Sure, I find it annoying. I wish

600
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have the calluses. But the work is good,

601
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: and the pipes need to be piped.

602
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: The pipes are fit as they lay right now.

603
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: That's just the way the pipes are late unfortunately.

604
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: So, Carly, you brought a list of straight topics, and

605
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: we have chosen one. But I do want to like

606
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: get into or at least hear each one of them,

607
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: I always think.

608
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: And we can see now at this point in the

609
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: conversation if something does like light up in a way

610
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: that it maybe didn't before. And a few things floating around,

611
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: one of which was child actors. That seems kind of

612
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: straight to me. Yes, yeah, cigars. Yeah, I will include

613
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 4: one that I didn't say earlier, but I rejected and

614
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: this is like so nerdy of me. But I noticed

615
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: that a lot of.

616
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: A lot of past topics were food related.

617
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: But I was going to say, ketch up, we've actually

618
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: done catch okay, sorry, shout out to Sandy.

619
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Shout out to Sandy, thank you. What was the last one? Gorillas?

620
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Gorillas? And there was also sharing music lyrics.

621
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: On sharing music on your.

622
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: Music on your Instagram story right like from Spot from

623
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: spot Instagram.

624
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Story that okay, can we talk about that's we're not

625
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: going to talk about that, but I do want to

626
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: talk We.

627
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: Have to talk about it for at least too many

628
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: because it's actually a really rich it's a really rich topic.

629
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: I think there I almost in suggesting that, I was like,

630
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: is that straight? Do I just want to talk about

631
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: what that means or how that comes off to other people?

632
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Well, the weirdest part to me is you can't click

633
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: the icon to go to the song, right.

634
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: You can't like go to spot to Spotify from I

635
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: would never think to do that.

636
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: So like, oh, I do want to hear that song,

637
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: We'll just type it in. So you just posted remember

638
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: the album art. That's insane to me.

639
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 2: I think you can click on the top left corner.

640
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: I think you can say, like, go to Spotify totally.

641
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: You guys, seriously, I mean trying to.

642
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do it.

643
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 4: I'll post something tonight and you can tell me if

644
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: you can successfully go to Spotify.

645
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I was. There is something about it's tough because

646
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: sometimes you are listening to a song and it is

647
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: so meaningful, you're crying, you're laughing. You are like paying

648
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: attention to lyrics you've never paid attention to before, and

649
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: you want to share it with the world. You want

650
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: to shout it from the rooftops and guess what, it's

651
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: more interesting than sharing a selfie. And yet as soon

652
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: as you do it, you're like, oh, I'm pathetic.

653
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: Right, Why did I do that?

654
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Why did I do that?

655
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Speaker 2: Literally?

656
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyone else to do.

657
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm also pretty cynical about it, where sometimes I think

658
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: it's people. It is like branding and they're trying to

659
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: be like, you know, I listen to cool music and

660
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I assume you're one of Brooklyn's hottest comedians.

661
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: What's on Spotify live Bedstar, I'm pretty sure popping out?

662
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying sharing music on your story is

663
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: like having an Elvy Louis Vton bag. It is, but

664
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: in a desperate way where it's like, oh, okay, we

665
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: get it. Good for you for listening to that.

666
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: Album totally, or I mean a little bit of a

667
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: cry for help perhaps, or you know, kind of a

668
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: reaching out in the most kind of indirect way where

669
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: it's like, this is what.

670
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: My mood is right now? Sure, this is like what's

671
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: driving me?

672
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it's we're not even considering the option

673
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: of actually doing it as a way to express like

674
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: actual real heartbreak or actual real uh sort of like

675
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: an indirect passive aggressive message to someone totally, because.

676
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: That's like almost a real remnant of like Tumblr.

677
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: Maybe it's high school coded totally in a.

678
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: Way that is actually I think why I don't believe

679
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: that someone is legitimately trying to make a move like

680
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: either either show genuine sadness or show like passive aggressiveness

681
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: certainly not.

682
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: I just think, like if you want to say something

683
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: to someone, you would say it. You're you're just posting music.

684
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: For yeah, you know, I'll I think maybe the three

685
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: of us, I'm the one that does this the most,

686
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: so I feel they need to defend.

687
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: My posting music.

688
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: I do post quite a lot.

689
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: So you do, okay, Yeah, yeah, I don't say I'm

690
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: with you.

691
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: You don't. Yeah, maybe you should start.

692
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: If you felt so much.

693
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: But that's the thing. You either feel moved to do

694
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: it or you don't. You're either part of the culture.

695
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: Well, there is something so fun about okay. First of all,

696
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it's fun when it's like a joyous summer

697
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: song and you're like totally. It's the equivalent of being

698
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: like whoa, But you don't exactly, So there's that. Then

699
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: there is something fun about like discovering an old song

700
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: you haven't heard in like twenty years and being like,

701
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: let's have a conversation about this. People will reply and

702
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: then I'll have a mit. But I don't know, but

703
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

704
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: We haven't said anything. Yeah, it's okay.

705
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: I know I think that would be good, but I

706
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: think that's not normal.

707
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: Normally what happens.

708
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: It would be great if you could do you know

709
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: how you can like post like a question and there's

710
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: like the answer box.

711
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: It would be great if you could post a song

712
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: and then there's kind of an answer box below it.

713
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: Well, there is something that's actually one of the most

714
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: pathetic parts of posting, because sometimes I do find myself

715
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: and this is dark to admit being like, oh, I

716
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind a little a little hit of human interaction

717
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: right now. And I just know that if I post

718
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: a fun new song, someone's gonna be like, oh, loving

719
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: this album, and I'll be like, it slaps right, and

720
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: then I'll just move on to that kind or creates

721
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: a chore.

722
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: That's also a really not this not to be a bitch.

723
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: That's like a very generous read where it's like, like,

724
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: human interaction is one thing. Some people just do it

725
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: for straight up attention.

726
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: For sure, And I mean, do you look at who

727
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: is viewing your story? It's a bigger question.

728
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Carly, Carly, Carly, you come on here and you embarrass.

729
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: Us and also us all knowing full well that the

730
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: first few people who view your story are the people

731
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: who interact with your stuff. The most you know algorithmically.

732
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean I look at the likes.

733
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: You look at the story like, yeah, I look at that.

734
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: I would never scroll through all.

735
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: Well, we get so many views that it would be imp.

736
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: It's just that it's actually an infinite scroll and then

737
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: sometimes your phone crashes. Right is were on the list

738
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: of Apple knows that and close with them, were close

739
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: to Tim Cook. He's really incredible.

740
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: I just that he's gay.

741
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: You just found out that he's.

742
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: People are constantly just finding out that it doesn't happen

743
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: to that's his headline, that's his headline. But but people

744
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: are finding out.

745
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 4: I don't think gay is his head do you know who?

746
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: I think that's like the fourther thing about him.

747
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: I actually don't. I think it's gay. First he was

748
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: like famously the first Wasn't didn't Sydney, No, somebody recently,

749
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: but someone, I swear to God, it's very common for

750
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: someone to discuss. For me to actually tell someone that

751
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: Tim Cook is getting, for that to be how they discover.

752
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: It, that's like a gift that he can give to you.

753
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: You can tell when he was hired it was literally.

754
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: He's like, I was not gonna like this doing the

755
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: gay wrist and be like.

756
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: Hey mama, and China was like what.

757
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: We don't know what?

758
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

759
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: The big line was he's gay. China's not gonna like this,

760
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: and I was like.

761
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: He's gay. China says what, like wait, and it's like

762
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: a split screen that's like his face and then the

763
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: Chinese flash.

764
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember, like I remember being like, that is

765
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: so amazing that there's a gay guy there.

766
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: Do you.

767
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: Was this or the era of yours where you were

768
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: inspired by you know, maybe this was a born this

769
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: way type era, you know, it's so funny.

770
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: Well, I was like that's crazy, yeah, crazy, and he

771
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: like knows like what what to do every day?

772
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: Or no, just that a CEO is gay, it's not.

773
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 3: Wait.

774
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: I love the idea that you think it's crazy. You're like, wait,

775
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: a gay guy knows how to do work?

776
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, who let him up there?

777
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: And also a huge assumption that CEOs know how to

778
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: do work.

779
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: That he's minor speaking.

780
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: George is really pro ceo. Some of his best friends

781
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: are CEOs.

782
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Like, well, there is something about being a CEO where

783
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: it's like mostly your giving talks and going to events.

784
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: So in that sense, it's almost like, well, you beat

785
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: the you beat the gotcha exactly. You got to like

786
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: the final level where it's like, no, it can relax.

787
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: It's all that appearances.

788
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean the worst place to be is

789
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: middle management c suite.

790
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: That's the worst place.

791
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: In terms of work. Oh yeah, I'm obviously gonna make money,

792
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: but but you better believe you're like at the Hampton's

793
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: Hampton's on your laptop with the window down so that

794
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: the sun doesn't reflect on your laptop.

795
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, that's a sad And at that.

796
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Point it's like, well, I would actually rather be in

797
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: a studio apartment in Bedstye and at least feel like

798
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm and a win.

799
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: Tour, right, just like be a server?

800
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just be a server. You should actually should reset

801
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 2: when you get to the c suite. They're like back

802
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: to Grumpies, Grummies.

803
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: And green Point, the location from.

804
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: Girls, the way that I sought out Grumpies and Greenpoint

805
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: that used to be like.

806
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 3: My coffee shop. I used to work in green Point.

807
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is the Grummies from Girls.

808
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: This is truly the closest coffee place that I have

809
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: to go to every day.

810
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like akin to like going to the

811
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom or something. I'm like, I'm basically meeting Mickey

812
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: Mouse when I'm.

813
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: At the grumpy rubbing the tables, like what did what

814
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: did Lena get?

815
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: More important, what would Hannah get?

816
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 3: What would Hannah get?

817
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: It all goes back to it's actually kind of crazy, Okay.

818
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 3: So insane, like just a small digression.

819
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: Like as far as like service workers like looking to

820
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: be baristas, they have like a really good like benefits package.

821
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: Well that's why it started, and wanted to amplify their

822
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 2: voices on her show, HBO's.

823
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: Girl totally yeahs pro Labor always has. I'm pretty sure

824
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 3: they've helped insurance.

825
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's huge. So since that's not the topic and

826
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about it, I forget that.

827
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: When is your choice of the ones that you mentioned?

828
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: I think I landed on just to truly kind of roulette.

829
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: Pick one cigars, Cigars, Cigars, cigars.

830
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: What about them feel straight to you?

831
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 4: I mean I think it is like a guy celebratory thing,

832
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's very it's it's almost

833
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: kind of this very sanctioned, like phallic saying that you can,

834
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: which is almost maybe a little gay, but it's you know,

835
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: but you're destroying it, you're burning it down.

836
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're also circumcising it, that's right.

837
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you have to snip it.

838
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: You're literally like snip totally.

839
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like approved by like let's see your

840
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: dad or your uncle.

841
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: You're graduating high school, you're graduating college or whatever.

842
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: You're a real man.

843
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: Now.

844
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: It's the gulf of things you can put in your mouth, totally.

845
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: It's also it's one of the.

846
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: You can't put a damn putter in your mouth, so

847
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: it's got to be.

848
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: It's also whiskey has been so normal coded now that

849
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so you're drinking whiskey. Sounds gay to me.

850
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: Now you need a cigar totally.

851
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: It's like you're having a little drink. Like that's pretty

852
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: gig cigar. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen

853
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: a gay guy.

854
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: This is where it comes from. You often, things that

855
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: are hyper masculine. We just talked about this, they come

856
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: back around become gay and even like especially like leather culture,

857
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's like cigar dad is like a.

858
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Porn type card. It is, but I actually think that mean,

859
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: really it's not like other I do think a gig

860
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: I could pull off, like you know, work pants and

861
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: a work shirt and things like that. A cigar is

862
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: one level beyond that where actually, if I were to

863
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: smoke a cigar, I would look so ridiculous, like I

864
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: would not I would say, it would just be have

865
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: never be more clear how out of place I look.

866
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: It actually is difficult to embody the cigar personality. Yeah,

867
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: and that's I think. It actually is a level of

868
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: straight that's so straight that it is really hard to reclaim.

869
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: It's also straight in that way where there's almost a knowledge,

870
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: like a knowledge barrier where it's like like when I

871
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: see like an adult man smoke a cigar, they like

872
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: know what they're.

873
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: Doing totally, and there's a whole set of of kind

874
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: of there's a physicality that goes along with it that

875
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: is like really mysterious.

876
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: And I know if I were to do it, it

877
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel like I know what I'm doing. It would

878
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: actually point out that I am gay because I would

879
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: look stupid and I would not know it, and I'd

880
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: make a big deal out of being like I look stupid.

881
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: But it's like any kind of sources ship it's like

882
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: not knowing about wine and they bring the wine, and

883
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: everyone who knows about wine starts strolling their glasses and

884
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: smelling them, and you immediately take a big gulp and

885
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: then burp.

886
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

887
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he started just like chugging it.

888
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: Like very recently, someone gave me molly, which like I

889
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: don't do very often, and I snorted it.

890
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: Whoa, I noticed everyone else was like eating That was

891
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: so funny.

892
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: I was like what but and then I immediately tried

893
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: to cover. I was like, well, it goes down the

894
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: same like ultimately, I.

895
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Was like, this is how you're supposed to do it.

896
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: But like I snorted it and then I saw everyone

897
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: else like eating it.

898
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: Okay, actually so but it was a powder. Yeah, oh, but.

899
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: People are putting it on a key and then going

900
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: into their mouths.

901
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's confusing. That does sound like you're being

902
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: prank Like.

903
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 3: You guys look wrong doing that, even if it kills

904
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 3: me the way it feels right. But back to cigars.

905
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, we can well but okay, cigars and

906
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: you know, we're bringing drugs into it and everything else.

907
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: It's like cigars there's this thing where even though they

908
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: are a form of smoking and a form of drug.

909
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: Broadly speaking, they're like weirdly sanctioned where it's like it's

910
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: okay to see as resident.

911
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: Next to wine and so like celebratory and like it's.

912
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: So wine, it's so whiskey, it's so golf, it's so professional.

913
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: It's like you can literally do it in a business

914
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: meeting and it would not be controversial totally.

915
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of bars that are like

916
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 4: technically not smoking places like maybe would tolerate a cigar

917
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: under the right circumstances.

918
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Also, by the way, there's also it's this sort of

919
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: safe illicitness, like you are doing something that's bad, but

920
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: it's the most sopisticated version of that. Also, maybe you're

921
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: bringing it illegally from Cuba, and that's like a little

922
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: way to be that's like a tiny way to be bad.

923
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: Yes, there's like a luxury.

924
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: But the way the d cigarette is like where he

925
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: class is like, you know, it was like a point

926
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: where my my dad was trying to get into cigars

927
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 4: because his brother is and he was like.

928
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: Competition exactly at any given time, every man on earth

929
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: is in competition to see who is most into cigars.

930
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 4: That's right, but ultimately my dad was like, I don't

931
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: like this. My dad like doesn't even smoke cigarettes. So

932
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: he like he was like, do you want this? And

933
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: he gave me this like humidor full of cigars and

934
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: I was.

935
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Like, I guess I'll take a bar party with me.

936
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: And on the day that Joe Biden won, I did

937
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: smoke a cigar.

938
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: That was so funny.

939
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: I was like coffee out of my kitchen window. Yeah,

940
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: I was like I have to do something.

941
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like we did did did you smoke it

942
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: alone or did someone else smoke the other ones?

943
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: I well, so I just like took one out of

944
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: you smoked all of them in a row. Yeah.

945
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: I was like throwing up and I just sleep the

946
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: rest of the day.

947
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: But it's like it gets like wet and you have

948
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: to kind of chew on the end of it. Yes,

949
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: it's awful.

950
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean talk about not to be too literal about it,

951
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: but the phallic nature of it. It's like you are

952
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: snipping it and then you're basically slobbering on it. Yes,

953
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: like because of you did you do such?

954
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: You have mouth motion to get back onto it exactly.

955
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: It's like crazy, you are constantly doing a little foreplay

956
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: with the cigar in order to like make it wet.

957
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep like renegotiating it in your mouth in this

958
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: really crass way.

959
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: Huh. I'm learning a lot. I feel. My dad went

960
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: through a cigar phase as well, and I remember sort

961
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: of being like, well, one, it was pure pressure from

962
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: his other male friends, were sure, And it's also a

963
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: way to like be alone as a guy for like

964
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: a few minutes every night if you just you know.

965
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, no one else wants to be around

966
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: the cigar smoke, so like I can kind of be alone.

967
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: That's true. But I do remember seeing my dad smoking

968
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: them and being like, when did he become so toxic?

969
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: Like I actually have that he's gone now. My dad

970
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: also went through a cigar face, and I remember feeling

971
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: the same way where I'm like, I thought you weren't

972
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: like other dads. I thought you, like were not toxic masculinity.

973
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: I thought you were not like sort of like obsessed

974
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: with football and whatever else. But I guess this entire

975
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: time you've just been hiding it for me, and this

976
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: entire time you've been desperate to be addicted to cigars.

977
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 3: Right.

978
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: Well, so my first introduction to cigars was like my

979
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: family at Thanksgiving, like there would be a certain point

980
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: after dinner where like all of the men would go

981
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: outside to smoke cigars, and like almost all the men

982
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: in my family are cops, so they would like go

983
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: outside and like talk about cop stuff and smoke cigars,

984
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: and then all the women would kind of stay inside

985
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: and talk about that stiff.

986
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: All the women are robbers.

987
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: And I would always be like, no, I'm going to

988
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: go outside.

989
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: They're all like.

990
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: And you were like, I was like, well, I want

991
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: to hear. I was like, I'm interested in becoming a

992
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: police officer.

993
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: And it's a teenager, and I was like, I know

994
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to hate this stuff they're talking about, but

995
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: I want to hear it.

996
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I'll smoke the cigar. I'll

997
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: go outside.

998
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: You're actually pointing to another part of the illicit nature

999
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: of it, which is that at any given time you're

1000
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: smoking a cigar, you could be sort of planning something illicit,

1001
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: Like there's something it's like, oh, you're planning a bank rubber.

1002
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: You're smoking a cigar. You're planning like a big project

1003
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: or something a big murder. If you're a police officer.

1004
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Let's say, then.

1005
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: An amount of private time with whoever else is smoking

1006
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: the cigar.

1007
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1008
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1009
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Well, also there's something about like, okay, all rules are

1010
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: lifted while the cigar is all rules are lifted. I'm

1011
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: allowed to be bad in.

1012
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: Every direction, the dark room of being.

1013
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: It's like now I can say whatever I want until

1014
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: the cigar is gone.

1015
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: It's like after hours straight, it's like it's.

1016
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: Like that is being so buttoned up during dinner and

1017
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: so helpful, and then as soon as the cigar comes out,

1018
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: he's like, pronouns are crazy.

1019
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, totally, and it's like crime in the

1020
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: inner cities.

1021
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1022
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: And then it's like and we're never gonna talk about

1023
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: that again totally.

1024
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is that they make you

1025
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: like so nauseous, Yeah, especially if you're smoking it wrong,

1026
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: if you're like have only ever smoked weed, I'm like

1027
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: pulling it down into my lungs, like for a full cigar.

1028
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: My dad is kind of like eyeing me, and then

1029
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: in the car ride home, I'm like, I have to

1030
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 4: throw up.

1031
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: I smoked that cigar so wrong.

1032
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: Okay. The idea of like the men going to do

1033
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: something and the women going to do something. I actually

1034
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: like the idea of at a party people separating into

1035
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: offset off off group. I hated that, but they should

1036
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: separate it by different like it'd be like, okay, virgos,

1037
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: we're doing paper like libros, Vodkas, Sagittarius, Pseudoku, and then

1038
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: and then when the guest, I actually think we do

1039
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: need like okay, so because a party can only work

1040
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: so well when it's everybody.

1041
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: The things you can some like relief and some you know,

1042
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: you need to split off and then come back and then.

1043
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we can all come back together and

1044
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: be like, okay, so what did you learn about each other?

1045
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: And we all share different zones.

1046
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jim hates pronouns.

1047
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I think a big part of cigar

1048
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: culture is well, we have to talk about the media

1049
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: portrayal of cigars because to me, the two things that

1050
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: come up are, first of all, of court sorry evil

1051
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: evil exactly. It's like evil guy literally, someone planning a murder,

1052
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: someone like stroking and hairless cat, wild stockbroker, American psycho mobster.

1053
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: Just not sopranos. That was the first thing exactly.

1054
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: And then of course the flip side of that is,

1055
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: as I mentioned off Mike, the classic photo shoot where

1056
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: a sexy woman is is smoking a cigar.

1057
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 3: That's right, the ultimate subversion.

1058
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: The ultimate, the ultimates of the ultimate subversion. A woman,

1059
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: no bra, We're talking a blazer, an oversized, oversized open blazer,

1060
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: and she is sitting. She's man spreading, sort of like

1061
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: sitting with her legs apart, big square, big square blazer,

1062
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: Annie Taylor George. Yeah.

1063
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: And she's on the cover of Men's Health.

1064
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: Yes, like GQ or something.

1065
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: No pornographic, pornographic female lead cover of Men's Health, which

1066
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: is usually Matthew McConaughey, like in the.

1067
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Beach with his dog, his dog.

1068
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I think that is egregious.

1069
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: But also, as you mentioned the Tina like as you mentioned,

1070
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: it can also be like non not necessarily sexual, but

1071
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: more like, oh, a woman is doing a man's job.

1072
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: It's how you imply she's a boss, How you.

1073
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: Imply she's what reinforces that. It's the guy thinks more

1074
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: than that.

1075
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: It's literally like, oh my god, a woman is a boss.

1076
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: Looks she's dressed like a man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

1077
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: how you know she has power.

1078
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a bow tiometer and tits around.

1079
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: Like a guy like a guy.

1080
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Carly, if you were ever to do a

1081
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: cigar photo shoot, I actually would need your entire cop

1082
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: male family to be swooping cigars by you.

1083
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: Man. No, no, you'll never see them. You know.

1084
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: A cigar photo shoot is almost like in terms of

1085
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: being a trope. It's almost similar to the trope of

1086
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: being naked with slurs written on your like the Dixie

1087
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: photo shoot. Yeah yeah, wore yeah exactly. I love like

1088
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: I love sort of like nineties and early two thousands

1089
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: photography tropes.

1090
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking? Though, what's weird? Do do

1091
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: gay guys ever do that magazine cover? Has that ever

1092
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: happened in history?

1093
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: Like super mass done?

1094
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: Like the cigar.

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: Almost the contrast is not as stark as if it's

1096
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: like you know, Natalie Portman.

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00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what would this is an interesting This is

1098
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: an interesting question, like what would the ultimate subversion be

1099
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: for a gay guy ultimate woman cigar? Ultimate's a version

1100
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: of a gay guy where it's like signified making.

1101
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: Out with a girl, like fucking a.

1102
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: Girl on the cover of Men's Health. Yeah, question Sriano, fucking.

1103
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: You'll blow up doll? That would be that would be it.

1104
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: Would really ruffle something that would be amazing.

1105
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to say, magazines start doing

1106
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: that totally wow.

1107
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean you know, maybe it would be you know

1108
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 2: what I think it would be. This is not that exciting,

1109
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: but it would be like wearing a football dt like

1110
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: wearing a full football outfit with the shoulder.

1111
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: The problem is with the masculine stuff is that gay

1112
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: guys have already reappropriated a million times to be like yeah, yeah,

1113
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: so it doesn't ever feel subversive.

1114
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: That's true. So maybe the most abversive thing is literally addressing.

1115
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: Like you're in the original cast of Querre for the

1116
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Straight Guy, and you're literally wearing like a little thin

1117
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: scarf that's tied in a boat.

1118
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: That actually could be groundbreaking, like a little poodle in

1119
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: your hand, Like literally if.

1120
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: The two if the two of us ever are on

1121
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: the cover of a magazine, I would specifically request that

1122
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: we do we do like two thousand and one gay drag,

1123
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: or we're wearing like see through floral button down poodle

1124
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: ca free pants of course frosted tips.

1125
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't do either of you.

1126
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: Pierced ears, but now that's fall I might get one,

1127
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, get them because I couldn't have it getting

1128
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: in the way of my swimming, my summer swims. I

1129
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: just heard you're not supposed to swim for like a

1130
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: couple of weeks when you Yeah, so that would that

1131
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: would have ruined my summer.

1132
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Just put a giant bandage on your ear.

1133
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like a condom.

1134
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: Wrap it up.

1135
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: Just put a condom on your one practicing swimming. You

1136
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: don't have any condoms virgin.

1137
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the ultimate version for a straight man?

1138
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: Straight man?

1139
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I know what it is. It's like when

1140
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: they do photo shoots for they're like acting gay. It's

1141
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: like that classic photo shop where it's like John Stewart

1142
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: and Stephen Colbert and they're like shirtless on the.

1143
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: Ground, or like a David la Chappelle, yeah you know.

1144
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: Or it's literally like Zach shirtless and he's acting like

1145
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: he's covering his boobs like.

1146
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: He would do that anyway if no one asked him to.

1147
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always doing that. We actually are asking him

1148
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: to stop. Let the world see your boobs. It's fine,

1149
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: specifically wants to show me your boobs?

1150
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 4: Is this?

1151
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: Can a straight guy be subvert?

1152
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Well?

1153
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: That is the sort of ultimate question. That's a great question.

1154
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: Can a fully secure straight guy be subverted meaningfully?

1155
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: There's an there's a photoshoot of eminem. There's a famous

1156
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: sort of eminem where he's holding his He's maybe in

1157
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: like a speedo or like an underwear or something, and

1158
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: then he's it looks like he's holding his dick, but

1159
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 2: it's a fire what is it called?

1160
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 3: Not a firecracker roman candle.

1161
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: Like like a big red thing that has like a

1162
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: that has like.

1163
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 4: A like a stick of yes, yes, exact exactly, stick

1164
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 4: of dynamite.

1165
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: That's what it's cool.

1166
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 4: So he's like, it's kind of like I'm doing my sexuality,

1167
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: but it's cartoonist exactly.

1168
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something there. I feel just like a big

1169
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: ass eminem.

1170
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, famously has like a beautiful he would like to

1171
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 4: pull his ass out.

1172
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: You didn't see the Men's Health cover in twenty eleven.

1173
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but ass was someone that I

1174
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: was very attracted to as a teen, and I remember

1175
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: being like, why is no one having this conversation? Everyone

1176
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 2: is completely sexualizing him. I'm like, he's hot. Yeah, he's

1177
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: having sex with Britney Murphy rest in Power in that film.

1178
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: Why is no one talking about He's like, has a

1179
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: pretty good body. Why is some one talking about it? Well,

1180
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: I know he's not your type.

1181
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: He was invisible to me.

1182
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: I think he never really invited.

1183
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: That exactly because every time he said to.

1184
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: Almost look past how aggressive, and exactly every time someone

1185
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: would come close to calling him, he'd be like.

1186
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: I'll kill you, And then someone who was into that

1187
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: would keep going.

1188
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got kill you and I killed my

1189
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: mom and my girlfriend and I that was all his song.

1190
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: That was all so and I was literally like eleven

1191
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 2: being like he's hot.

1192
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, I'm sure it has reasons. My twelve

1193
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: he had.

1194
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 5: To yeah, yeah, Eminem with a cigar, Eminem with the dynamit.

1195
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: Its too literal, and I know it's not the answer,

1196
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think of like like, you know

1197
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: the bald guy that like wears the skirts to work

1198
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: and there's all these yeah like that's and he's like,

1199
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gay. Well, there's an there's a photo Steals

1200
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: he's just kind of weird.

1201
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: There's an Iggy Pop photo Shore where he's like dressed

1202
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: in women's clothing. He has this famous quote where he's like, well,

1203
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't find dressing women's clothing cumulating because I don't

1204
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 2: find being a woman cumulating, which then of course begs

1205
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: the question. So it's it's sort of like it's a

1206
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: good idea, but they are like, well, but then you

1207
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: can make that argument about like blackface, like just that's not.

1208
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: A good, that's like not the good.

1209
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: That's the correct argument to make about that.

1210
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: Totally, And it's like, truly, is the end all on

1211
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: him is that she's just weird?

1212
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Right exactly?

1213
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: The bald dye or.

1214
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: Is literally like I'm straight, I'm also like sort of homophobic.

1215
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got mad that people kept thinking he was gay.

1216
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: He was like, I just want to wear skirts and

1217
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: heels to work without people thinking I'm gay, without people

1218
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: think I'm an f slur.

1219
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, why is it one being so weird?

1220
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm normal and.

1221
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm not striding down the runway. He's like like walk

1222
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: walk fashion baby, He's like, what is gay about this?

1223
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, I'm trying to get to my wife.

1224
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: She has moments.

1225
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: She is following off to her hospital. Here, I am

1226
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: getting off of my ship as a police officer. I'm

1227
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: trying to get to my dying wife.

1228
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, No one talks about how strutting is the fastest

1229
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: way not be running.

1230
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: Get out breath and you're gonna get you tired of breath?

1231
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: Like are you gay? He's like, I'm just in a hurry.

1232
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 2: My wife is sick.

1233
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 4: Like everyone honestly gets out of my way when I'm

1234
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 4: dressed like this, so I place it to get to.

1235
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: Damn. Okay, any I'm trying to think like any other

1236
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: cigar thoughts. Thoughts, cigar thoughts.

1237
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 4: They're kind of stinky, true, right, Okay, here's okay, okay,

1238
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 4: in the same way that.

1239
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: Like, like millennial dads now are, like you know, the

1240
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: girl dad conversation we were having. Yes, there is also

1241
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: something where like cigars now exist, there are guys doing

1242
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: it for the gram. Like I actually think they're more

1243
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: Instagram fodder than we think.

1244
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: Totally.

1245
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think it's a little bit

1246
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: like a guy holding a big fish.

1247
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: It's a guy holding a big or it's kind.

1248
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 4: Of like a rich flex kind of thing, or like

1249
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 4: in the way that like cigarettes are back. But it's

1250
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: like I know this thing is we're so post like

1251
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 4: knowing these things are bad for you, and I.

1252
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: Don't care, do you think a cigar in terms of

1253
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: being a signifier of wealth is so cliche that it

1254
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: is an LV Louis Baton bag or do you think

1255
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: it still is a signifier of wealth. I think it's

1256
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: still a signifier of wealth. But not posting it. I

1257
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: think doing it is still a signify of wealth.

1258
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: You can post it in a dump.

1259
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: Sure you know someone's rich. Someone's rich if they put

1260
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: it in the dump.

1261
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: Right, you're on a boat?

1262
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: Maybe boat is one restaurant? Pick beach, yeah, funny pick

1263
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: cigar song lyrics?

1264
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: N you n.

1265
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Maybe a photo just full hole?

1266
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: That's well?

1267
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: That well, if you can actually get away with posting

1268
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: that entire carousel and get by completely unscathed and then

1269
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: put on your short skirt and heels and go to

1270
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: your job at the U N, then you know you've

1271
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: made it.

1272
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: Like this guy is making This guy is making it.

1273
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: The most subversive thing the straight guy can do is

1274
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: post a song to his Instagram story.

1275
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: Do you think so? Yeah?

1276
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: It's vulnerable?

1277
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: What kind of song like? Great in this guy?

1278
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: Black hole song?

1279
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: I was thinking like a metal song? Oh yeah, sure,

1280
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: like Metallica.

1281
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rumstein, yeah, et cetera, Mega Death and like We're

1282
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: we're being really smart right now.

1283
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're being really smart. Okay, what's up the music?

1284
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's your favorite song? Now, let's start, what's

1285
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: your favorite song?

1286
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: What's your favorite?

1287
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: So welcome to What's where we ask our guests one

1288
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: simple question and then just kind of go from there.

1289
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: I like that.

1290
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Should we do final?

1291
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: Damn? Is it time?

1292
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know? To be honest, I'm actually not I

1293
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: have no idea. What started keeping track?

1294
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: Do you remember started like four fifteen? Yeah, yeah, we'll

1295
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: cut this out. Don't worry, keep it, keep it. Come on,

1296
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: people need to see. I'm having a really good time

1297
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: talking about cigars.

1298
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: A deep Well, we thought that's true.

1299
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's also all of like there's kind of like

1300
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 4: a nerdy amount of kind of upkeep and maintenance you

1301
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: have to do. You have to keep them at a

1302
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 4: certain temperature and they can't get too wet or too dry.

1303
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: Again, it's like a safe hobby.

1304
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1305
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: For men, it's like, well, okay, here's something. It's a

1306
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: sort of a harm reduction method for gun violence. Is like,

1307
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: it's not a lots of gun. Just get them a cigar.

1308
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: Sure, they like, they'll be like, yeah, they'll be like,

1309
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm being bad.

1310
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Now I feel like.

1311
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm shooting right, But I can just be bad to myself.

1312
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So like here, here's this little thing. You can

1313
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: snip the end and if you do it to your finger,

1314
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: then that'll you'll get a little rush of what you

1315
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: would get if you were to commit violence. There, just

1316
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: that little the idea of a threat.

1317
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: Also, what's so straight is a an implement that has

1318
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: one use, such as a cigar snipper.

1319
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 4: Wow, you're so right, Like a really specialized little tool.

1320
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know what that reminds me of. Also

1321
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: is like all the accessories of like a barbecue. Like

1322
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but if you're cooking in your rmal kitchen,

1323
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: and if you're let's say a mom in the fifties,

1324
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: you'll make do with what you have and you're gonna right.

1325
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: You're using the wine.

1326
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: Bottle exactly, a roller literally exactly. But if you're a dad,

1327
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: you need like a full sixteen piece set that someone

1328
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: got you.

1329
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 4: For Christmas totally and it has there's like a drawer

1330
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: that slides out that has infinite drawers.

1331
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: Each one has another drawer in.

1332
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: It because having.

1333
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: Because that's luxury. It's like this thing only does one

1334
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 3: thing and I use it once a month.

1335
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: I think it's luxury. But it's also you're like relinquishing

1336
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: having a personality. There's something about like being like, no,

1337
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: get me these things for Christmas because they are completely

1338
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: impersonal and you can get them for any man ever.

1339
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Having a personality is for a straight man, it's being

1340
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: an expert in something, so in the span of their life,

1341
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: it's collecting almost these like boy Scout stickers of like

1342
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm an expert at barbecuing. I'm an expert at cigar,

1343
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm an expert at car, I'm an expert at job.

1344
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm an expert at you know, sort of a metal

1345
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: based guitar, based guitar, a sport, fantasy football.

1346
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know, a horse, horse bedding.

1347
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: Then you ask that man, how's your day going? They

1348
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: burst into tears.

1349
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: How did you feel alone on the train?

1350
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Forget it. They're literally on the ledge about to jump.

1351
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're buying gun no matter how many cigars they consume.

1352
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: You got bought at a show through a loophole.

1353
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they loophole the.

1354
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1355
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, here's my advice to men out there. How

1356
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 2: about try being an expert in being a father?

1357
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: How about that about that amazing, amazing.

1358
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: Get an extra special ball that you teach your son

1359
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: to play catch with?

1360
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that. Even when we're being progressive, you're like,

1361
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: play catch with your son, with your son, be a

1362
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: good dad by playing catch with your son, yes, yeah,

1363
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: and doing other male roles and then telling your daughter,

1364
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill anyone who comes near you.

1365
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's you bond and she's like okay.

1366
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I'm his little girl. Was your dad

1367
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: that type of dad?

1368
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:55,479
Speaker 3: No?

1369
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I think because I have only have a sister,

1370
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: and I think I was more into like guy stuff

1371
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 4: than my sister. So I was kind of like that's

1372
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: at certain points for certain years, like the boy.

1373
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, which I loved. Of course, that's a

1374
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: dream to be the boy.

1375
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 1: But you were, you were you were a boy daughter

1376
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1377
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, multiple daughters. It's like which one's boy daughter and

1378
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: which one's girl.

1379
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 4: It's like, well one of these has to be the son.

1380
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 4: Someone's got to play catch with me. At this point,

1381
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 4: I don't care who's a girl and who's not.

1382
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: It's actually very progressive.

1383
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, someone's got to watch Lord of the Rings.

1384
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. There are worse things.

1385
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: I can't believe. We brought it back to literally girl

1386
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: daughter and boy daughter, which is what we with and

1387
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: it's nice and I'm like, oh, I'm girl son, I'm

1388
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: girl son. Yeah, I'm definitely girl girl girl son. Yeah.

1389
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: My brothers boy son yeah, and girl daughter.

1390
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: As long as your parents have what they wanted, you

1391
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1392
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a really good point.

1393
01:07:59,000 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1394
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: Oh maybe my dad wanted like a boy, so it's

1395
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 4: nice that I get to do like boy stuff with them.

1396
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool, Well maybe that'll be the latest TikTok trend.

1397
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: Who's a girl daughter and who's a boy daughter? And

1398
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: then we'll and then the final step will be just

1399
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: people banging their heads against the wall until they are

1400
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,440
Speaker 2: fully unconscious.

1401
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a son, mom.

1402
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 6: I feel like you're moms.

1403
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: Bleeding in the car.

1404
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: Like that is the endgame of memes. It's just people

1405
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: doing self harm and being like I am a boy dad.

1406
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: All right, Well, now I think we're ready to wrap

1407
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: it up.

1408
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we are as well, so Carly. Our

1409
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: final segment is called shout outs, and in this segment

1410
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: we pay homage is a grand, straight oral tradition of

1411
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: the radio. Shout out just about anything that you enjoy.

1412
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: So pretend it's two thousand and one, you're at two

1413
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: or else shouting out to your squad back home, but

1414
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: about anything that you like. George, do you have one? No?

1415
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: I actually do have one and one. What's up everyone?

1416
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: It's Sam here with a quick little shout out to

1417
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: something that you may know in love but is new

1418
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: to me, and that is the burrito bowl. I have

1419
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: been a purist my entire life, and I said, look,

1420
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: if I'm getting a burrito, I'm doing it the right way.

1421
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm getting it wrapped up in a tortilla. And recently

1422
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: I've been like, you know what, there is the technology

1423
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: to skip the tortilla, and maybe you should embrace it.

1424
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you should stop being so stubborn and set in

1425
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: your raise and find new things. You're not dead yet.

1426
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't care how mid thirties you are. You're not

1427
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: dead yet, sweetheart. And so I've been getting the burrito bowl,

1428
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: and in fact, I had one right before coming here,

1429
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: which is why I'm feeling so fed. And so I

1430
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: find the with the I have toxic finishing culture. And

1431
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: when I have a burrito and I'm holy and I say,

1432
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: I have to eat this entire thing. But when I

1433
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: have a bowl, I can take it or leave it

1434
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: at any moment because it is not one piece. It

1435
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: is a million little pieces. Shout out to Oprah maybe,

1436
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: but that was a big shout out because yes, she

1437
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't write the book, but that let me she didn't

1438
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: put on the freaking rap and make it a cultural moment.

1439
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: And shout out to readables. I forgive you and I

1440
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: am on your side and x RXL Sam.

1441
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, well, I mean I can go, you have.

1442
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 6: To unfortunately, Okay, what's up lab rats out there?

1443
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: That's right, I just made up a new name for

1444
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: our fan base. I want to give a shout out

1445
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: to Madonna as a guest star on Will and Grace

1446
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: when she played Karen's roommate. Liz, you have such a

1447
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: specific way of act that is almost like you've never

1448
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: performed in your life, despite being one of the most

1449
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: successful literal performers in the history of the world. It

1450
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: is choppy. You forget how to remove your body. You

1451
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: are almost talking over the person that is your scene partner,

1452
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: and it's clear that they tried to get as many

1453
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: takes as possible, but they were like, well, that's the

1454
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: one we have to use. I mean, we're literally running

1455
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: out of time, and it's Madonna. You sort of like

1456
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: are able to get just enough of a laugh for

1457
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: people to be like, cut next take, but then it's

1458
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: never quite enough. But at the same time you are

1459
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: doing your thing. I really appreciated that you didn't play yourself,

1460
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: that you played another character. I think that's like, I think,

1461
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: you know, when you're Madonna, obviously the impulse is to

1462
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: go on Will and Grace and play yourself. But I

1463
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: thought it was fun that you played a receptionist and

1464
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: you were here in Drum. I think it's funny that

1465
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: Madonna played a receptionist, and I assume she wrote the

1466
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: role for herself. So I guess my point is like,

1467
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: don't give up. And I think Madonna could still have

1468
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: one final big film or TV role, even at this

1469
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: stage in her career, and maybe get nominated for an

1470
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: Emmy for guest Star, perhaps in a show like uh

1471
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: and just like that as the Seventh Woman.

1472
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: Is amazing.

1473
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Carly, whenever you're a ready go off?

1474
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: All right, what's up? Girls? Just the girls.

1475
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: Sam's shadow is also kind of food related, so like

1476
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 4: I feel, but.

1477
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fun. It's a little different.

1478
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out to eating alone

1479
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 4: at a restaurant.

1480
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 3: Specifically.

1481
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: This is something I do too much to kind of

1482
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 4: a financial ruin to myself, but it is so wonderful.

1483
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: It's so luxurious. You get to have like a nice

1484
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 3: little relationship with the white staff, and you know when you're.

1485
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 4: So hungry and you get like a sandwich and you

1486
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 4: like kind of fuck the sandwich because you're so you

1487
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 4: get to like do that.

1488
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 3: But it's like maybe steak freets or whatever. So you

1489
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 3: shout out to.

1490
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: Eating alone at a restaurant. Anything could happen when you're

1491
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 4: eating alone at a restaurant and you feel full of possibility.

1492
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. I have to Actually when we went

1493
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: when we were in San Francisco and we separated, that

1494
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: one day I just went to a bar alone and

1495
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: just sat at the bar. And I've never done that

1496
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: in my entire life.

1497
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: You've never done that. I do that like four times

1498
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: a week.

1499
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: It was so, I mean, weird, whatever I mean because

1500
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: I mean you start crying. Every day is lunch alone bar.

1501
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: I definitely do it more often with restaurants. Well, I

1502
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: will sit at the bar of a restaurant, but there

1503
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: is something about ordering food that makes you feel less

1504
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: alone because there's also the food, so that you.

1505
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 3: Have something to do. Exactly, So you're being social. You're

1506
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 3: interacting with in a way, the entire staff and the chefs.

1507
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: And exactly, well, you're part of the staff, yes you are.

1508
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: You're like, you're like an extra and if someone says

1509
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: something weird at the next table over, you can literally

1510
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: look at the staff.

1511
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: And be like, right, you get to align yourself with

1512
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: the working people.

1513
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I do that with the bar. It's

1514
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: a little more difficult.

1515
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: It's weirder because you're there's nothing to do with your hands.

1516
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: You're just sitting there, and you're like, it's.

1517
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: Also and it also feels so performative to bring a book.

1518
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: Oh, it can't have to kind of stare and contemplate,

1519
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: And I don't want to force everyone to respect that

1520
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: you are going to stare off into some kind of

1521
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 4: middle distance and they have to respect.

1522
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: It actually felt like a challenge to like sit there

1523
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: and stare and be like I'm just gonna not speak

1524
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: and not look at my phone and wait for maybe

1525
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: someone like the then the bar and was like what

1526
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: do you do it like?

1527
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: And I was like, maybe it is the closest I

1528
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: get to meditation at.

1529
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really true. Yeah.

1530
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: I definitely was the weird guy though.

1531
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be something you to do with your hands? Yeah,

1532
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: maybe Tim Cook can figure something out.

1533
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah he has some stuff that he does in Yeah.

1534
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.

1535
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

1536
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: Well, shout out to Tim Cook, of course, shout out

1537
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: to Oprah and Madonna and Madonna the Big Free.

1538
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: Charly, thanks so much for doing the podcast.

1539
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: This was a delight so much fun.

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: Okay bye