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Speaker 1: Ron Kratz and marathon Man. Marathon Man, we haven't talked

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Speaker 1: to you since the marathon.

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Speaker 2: I know, I forgot it's been that. It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: I know that was just it was almost a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Now I forgot. It's been to so many games and

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Speaker 2: things that have happened. But what a game, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: what a game. Crazy game. I mean, every pitcher kept

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Speaker 2: just getting double plays at the greatest times I've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: And finally somebody got the hit. It was for Hey Polonka.

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Speaker 2: At one point, I just never thought that game was

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Speaker 2: gonna end, and we're sitting there, going what else can

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Speaker 2: happen in this game? And then eventually the right guy

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Speaker 3: The Tigers still haven't scored, and if they continued to play,

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Speaker 3: they still would not have scored.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, bunt. Someone needs to learn how

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Speaker 2: to bunt. But other than that, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: and they had second and third for Hobby By, who

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Speaker 2: he got absolutely blown up on a ground ball to

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Speaker 2: was Glaver. Glaver got out. But yeah, I mean they

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Speaker 2: did it. They did They had their chance, that was

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Speaker 2: their chance. They had first and second, no outs, Parker medals.

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Speaker 2: He's down a great bunch. And then it was Hobby's

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Speaker 2: turn and he didn't get it done. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've all been there, we understand.

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Speaker 4: But man, what a what a game. I mean, Seattle

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Speaker 2: Uh and they carried them momentum to Toronto the first

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Speaker 2: I still like where they're at. I still like where

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Speaker 2: Seattle's at because they have their pitching kind of lined

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Speaker 2: But yeah, what what a what a great game, and

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Speaker 2: one of the best playoff games I've ever seen, just

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Speaker 2: from everything happening, I mean, the strategy, the pitching, who's

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Speaker 4: What should we do here? What should we do there?

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Speaker 4: How's this guy going to get out of this?

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Speaker 5: Cham?

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Speaker 4: What a great game.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome, great job on the call. That was

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Speaker 1: a marathon.

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Speaker 4: Thank god our place, thank god Adam.

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Speaker 2: I mean just kept screaming, because every time we thought

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Speaker 2: good in that game. You know, you know, Scott, you've

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Speaker 2: done play by play. You can't really script what you're

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Speaker 2: going to say because the game never really goes where

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to go. And so but for him at

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Speaker 2: the end to have the Polanco in the twenty four

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Adam's great, and he's an ad libber. I

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Speaker 1: you include. But Adam into breaks too, was bringing it

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Speaker 4: A fourteenth by the way, humpy one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, but Humpy

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Speaker 2: salmon had never won, and Humpy won in the second

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Speaker 2: salmon race of the day for the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: So Humpy, Humpy one, Humpy. We had two seventh inning

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Speaker 2: I think that's what it was. It was because Humpy one.

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Speaker 1: That's been the big chatter out in Seattle. Now all

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Speaker 1: Go check it out. Let's start with the Brewers and

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Speaker 1: heading into a Game three in Los Angeles, a team

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Speaker 1: that has their pitching lined up and still really hasn't

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Speaker 4: He hasn't done anything, has he. I mean he hasn't really.

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Speaker 1: Had one RBI knock in the last game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but nothing, I mean nothing. What we've come to

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Speaker 2: Dodgers to go the World Series. They've been number one

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Speaker 2: the regular season for the Dodgers is nothing at all

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Speaker 2: So when they can go Snell eight innings, Yamamoto CG,

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Speaker 2: That's what's crazy to me is that the Brewers, in

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Speaker 4: Three games, and Ashley started both of them. I guess

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Speaker 2: But I mean, the team at the best record in

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Speaker 2: Peralta did okay, but I mean they got nothing else.

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Speaker 4: That's what's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And the Dodgers just exerting their dominance on him right now.

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Speaker 4: They're cooked.

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Speaker 3: They're cooked if they can't if if they can't keep

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Speaker 3: Mookie scored one run. I think this entire I think

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Speaker 3: for the Brewers, they did a great job during the

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Speaker 3: throw Quinn Priester, because that's what they do. When Quinn

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Speaker 3: Priester throws, they win. But I don't know if it's enough.

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Speaker 4: He could. They already threw Priester.

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Speaker 2: He threw four innings in Game one and they still lost.

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Speaker 2: They already tried that trick. They threw him already and

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Speaker 2: they lost. I mean, he went four innings and didn't

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Speaker 2: With the story of that game was Blake Snow and

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Speaker 2: think Y'aamota could go nine innings? I mean it was

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Speaker 2: Game two. So why do we think Tyler Glastan is

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just a depth thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: And if Bryce Terrang doesn't hit, which he hasn't done

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Speaker 2: this postseason, the Brewers have a hard time score.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't we think we see a little Kintana.

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Speaker 1: I would say, hopefully the Miz for a few innings.

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Speaker 1: If he's locating, yeah, Krats. I don't think Priester yet.

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Speaker 1: He's not going a full starter's workload, which is really

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Speaker 1: what he was doing for most of this stretch run

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Speaker 3: And if you go Kitana, if it's Kintana today, why

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Speaker 4: But I don't know where they turn.

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Speaker 2: Because they they don't hit a ton of home runs

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Speaker 2: of like what the Blue Jays did. They just don't

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Speaker 1: Mhm. You got a one liner here, Kratz.

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Speaker 3: John Carlo Stanton said he used to wait for glass

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Speaker 1: That's hit The Inside Scoop presented by Fox One with

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal calling this series along with the great uh,

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Speaker 1: I loved your article. Can you enlighten everyone on the

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Speaker 8: I just thought it was interesting that before the game,

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Speaker 8: interestingly because of course, Luis Castillo is a tremendous picture

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Speaker 8: of course, but he's physically fine now and it's going

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Speaker 2: Well, that's my question, Ken, what do we expect to

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Speaker 8: Well, Jay, first of all, hearts and flowers to you

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Speaker 8: Now, as for Shureser, I don't know what to expect.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: He did throw a ninety five pitch simulated game, I

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Speaker 3: Because ultimately, Max Schurzer could probably be throwing a no

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Speaker 2: Well, we're talking chures or what do we think the

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Speaker 8: in the earlier innings. Assuming he's pitching, well, yeah, you

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Speaker 8: go to right to the bullpen? Do you do it

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Speaker 8: in the fourth if he's pitching, Well, no, I don't

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Speaker 8: believe you do. Louis Castillo is who he is for

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Speaker 8: a reason. But they have those weapons available to them tonight.

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Speaker 8: They're in a great spot as far as where they're

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Speaker 8: pitching is concerned.

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Speaker 3: What did you see from Shane Bieber field level? After

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Speaker 3: he gave up that home run and was down and out,

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Speaker 3: You're like, we're talking about the same thing. How long

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Speaker 3: can they actually go with Shane Bieber? His slider swing

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Speaker 3: and miss was I think the best percentage that he

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Speaker 3: had on the season so far. Did you see a

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Speaker 3: change after that first that first home run by Julio.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I certainly did.

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Speaker 8: And that first inning to me, it looked like he

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Speaker 8: didn't have much and his stuff was down and it

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Speaker 8: was kind of like in the Division Series against the Yankees.

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Speaker 5: When he was sort of spraying the ball and just didn't.

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Speaker 8: Have great command, great feel for what he was doing,

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Speaker 8: and suddenly it appeared, and this is how it looked.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure he would maybe tell you differently, like the

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Speaker 8: light bulb went on, like all of a sudden boom,

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Speaker 8: he had it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 8: What was interesting is that after the game it came

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Speaker 8: out that after he allowed the home run to double

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Speaker 8: to Polanco, he went in the dugout at the end

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Speaker 8: of that inning and told his teammates, hey, guys, pick

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Speaker 8: me up.

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Speaker 5: My stuff is good.

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Speaker 8: So he obviously sends something. He obviously felt pretty good

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Speaker 8: about what was going on. But when you're watching the game,

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Speaker 8: you're wondering.

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Speaker 5: Exactly what you said. Is this going to be a sweep?

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Speaker 5: Is he going to be out right away?

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Speaker 8: How is this all going to play out?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Ken, By the way, I know you're in that fancy

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Speaker 2: hookdell that we couldn't get in. We're in Seattle, so

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Speaker 2: you know the blinds are kind of blinding me. So

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Speaker 2: come on, yeah, you know we were we were we

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Speaker 2: were in the Holiday and Express.

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Speaker 4: Ken, Okay, you guys are understood. I understand how it works.

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Speaker 4: It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys have private jets. We have other jets. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying. You're not listening though, But what

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Speaker 2: about Lad? I mean, Vlad? Is Vlad just the engine

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Speaker 2: for the Blue Jays that makes him go. I mean,

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Speaker 2: every time he gets a hit, it's almost like I

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Speaker 2: know Jimenez got it started, but it's like when blad

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Speaker 2: Lad comes up in those moments and he gets those hits,

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Speaker 2: the emotion and everything just changes for the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: Does he have to just carry the freight for them

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Speaker 2: every single night?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I would go that far, Aj,

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Speaker 5: but you're right.

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Speaker 8: He is their engine. He is their guy, and he

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Speaker 8: brings them energy. Even last night when it appeared he

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Speaker 8: might get the cycle on the final double, dugout was alive,

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Speaker 8: They're all signaling no, don't go for it. And certainly

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Speaker 8: he is the center of that team. And the contract

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Speaker 8: has made him even more the center of that team.

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Speaker 8: It gave him the knowledge that he would be there

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Speaker 8: and the players the knowledge that he would be there.

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Speaker 8: But if you look at last night's game, the first

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Speaker 8: big blow was him and Az his two run homer

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Speaker 8: that tied the game, and they had some other big

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Speaker 8: hits in that inning, the var show two run double.

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Speaker 5: So he's not alone here.

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Speaker 8: And they've gotten a lot of contributions from a lot

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Speaker 8: of different sources. We've talked about this quite a bit

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Speaker 8: this season, and from that perspective, it's not simply the

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Speaker 8: lad Show. But if you're asking me how important he is,

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Speaker 8: how meaningful what he does is to that team, there's

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Speaker 8: no question. And what's interesting also is even the first

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Speaker 8: two games, okay, he goes oh for six, oh for seven,

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Speaker 8: his last six outs were on the ground, and you wonder, okay,

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Speaker 8: is he slowing down finally?

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Speaker 5: And then last night he went nuts again.

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Speaker 8: So he clearly is a guy we've seen this now

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Speaker 8: who rises to the moment, didn't always earlier in his

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Speaker 8: career in the postseason in a small sample, and it's

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Speaker 8: kind of like seeing a superstar fully flowered, now fully mature,

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Speaker 8: and it's cool. It's really cool to see this happening.

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Speaker 5: And he's an.

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Speaker 8: Energy player, he's a guy who is underrated in some

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Speaker 8: of the other aspects of the game, and frankly, he's

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Speaker 8: just been a joy to watch this postseason.

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Speaker 1: Ken opinion question, But I feel like it's somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a layup. Is the contract warranted? I know it's incredibly early,

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Speaker 1: and things can happen. But this is what front offices

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Speaker 1: look for. Franchise player you can build around, you can

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Speaker 1: profit off of, you know, business wise, successful player, clutch player.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about him being the key cog in the

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Speaker 1: offense and the age factor, which is the biggest part.

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Speaker 1: He's still a baby in our sport.

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Speaker 8: Actually, Scott, you make a good point here, even by

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Speaker 8: asking the question. And when front offices and executives look

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Speaker 8: at contracts like this, they will say, well, no, he's

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Speaker 8: not worth that because of his performance on the field,

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Speaker 8: his war and all that. Some executives will say that,

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Speaker 8: and that might be valid. That five hundred million for

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Speaker 8: fourteen years from lad Guerrero might prove to be a

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Speaker 8: big mistake. But there are other things that we don't

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Speaker 8: measure that go into this kind of thing, and you

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Speaker 8: just mentioned it. He's box office. He is extremely popular

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Speaker 8: in Toronto, in Canada. He is a guy who is

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Speaker 8: someone you want to build your franchise around. And what

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Speaker 8: he's doing in this postseason that doesn't necessarily go into

539
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Speaker 8: the financial calculation when you're looking at war and all that.

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Speaker 8: But my gosh, it's incredibly meaningful. So it's hard for

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Speaker 8: me to say, right now that it's worth it. But

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Speaker 8: as we've seen over the years, baseball contracts over time

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Speaker 8: look better and better in certain respects in terms of

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Speaker 8: other people passing them. People will get more money than

545
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Speaker 8: Vlad Guerrero. So we'll have to see how it all

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Speaker 8: plays out. I remember the time with the Tattoos contract

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Speaker 8: in San Diego.

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Speaker 5: I thought that's a lot.

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Speaker 8: But even though he hasn't had the most consistent of

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Speaker 8: goes here, it looks pretty reasonable now in many respects.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know that we can pass judgment on it,

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Speaker 8: but I think what we can say, Scott, to your

553
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Speaker 8: point is there's more to it than batting average, ops,

554
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Speaker 8: defensive metrics. No, it goes beyond that with a franchise

555
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Speaker 8: type player because of the value he creates intangibly in

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Speaker 8: other ways.

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Speaker 2: Ken, I know you're in Seattle, but I have I

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Speaker 2: have two quick questions for you. One is the biggest

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Speaker 2: lie of all time that it's always cloudy and rainy

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Speaker 2: in Seattle, because I've been there a lot and it's

561
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Speaker 2: always Sonny there.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's Sonny on.

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Speaker 2: Your nose, right, I know, clearly, But to keep people

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Speaker 2: out of Seattle is that one of the things that

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Speaker 2: they tell, oh, cloudy, it's always every time I've been there,

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Speaker 2: not every time, but a lot of times it's sonny,

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Speaker 2: and it's beautiful there.

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Speaker 4: So I think they just tell people that to keep

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Speaker 4: them away.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, AJ, but I will say this, These

571
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Speaker 8: two cities that are in the Alcs are two of

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Speaker 8: the more beautiful cities in North America, and I love.

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Speaker 5: Visiting them both.

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Speaker 8: It's been too long in both cases, and the cities

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Speaker 8: are just spectacular, and it is just yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna throw? Are you gonna throw a fish

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Speaker 4: in the market a J.

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Speaker 5: I'm working, brother, Oh come on, you don't get outside?

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Speaker 4: And why it's like two blocks from where you're staying.

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Speaker 4: You can walk down the hill and you can get

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 2: Just go up to the guy and say I want

583
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Speaker 2: to buy a salmon, but only if I can throw,

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Speaker 2: and you'll go, oh, salmon will do his whole spiel

585
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Speaker 2: and you can pick it up and then you'll probably

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Speaker 2: clank it against the other fish.

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Speaker 4: But it's okay, a J.

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Speaker 5: I don't think I'll be doing that, just saying.

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Speaker 1: Joe Davis and John Smoltz might they were carving in Turkey.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's more their style. Ken's gonna report

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Speaker 1: on the field. Ken, great stuff. So far, it's been

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Speaker 1: a really fun broadcast and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. That's Ken Rosenthal Inside Scoop also can on

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Speaker 1: Fair Territory twice a week. Fresh episode came out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: if you want to give that a listen. There were

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Speaker 1: plenty of questions about some of the things you and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. People in the chat were asking about

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Speaker 1: like managers and gms, the ratio of how many openings

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Speaker 1: there are, stuff like that, So I encouraged you to

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Speaker 1: give it a listen. That's it. This week's Arena Club

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Speaker 9: waits about four or five seconds for the card to

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Speaker 9: come up. Card that I got was over three hundred

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Speaker 1: You can see that big smile on todd Father's face.

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Speaker 1: Lazarero Montes, who's supposed to be good. He's Baseball America

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Speaker 1: Top three, he's in the Mariners organization. But Todd Father

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Speaker 1: sometimes thinks prospects or suspects going back to the well

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Speaker 1: box scores on the ALCS. This one is an AJA special.

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Speaker 1: The Pope loves you so much AJ that he bit

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Speaker 1: back at a Cubs fan.

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Speaker 2: And Cubs fans were mad that the Brewers trolled him

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Speaker 2: with the l flag, which I loved, by the way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to the victor goes as spoils to the

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Speaker 2: losers goes to crying, and you know what, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of crying. And now the guy at the top

632
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Speaker 2: of the Catholic Church threw it right in their face.

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Speaker 2: And I love the fact that fans are now making

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Speaker 2: the hand perdido flag. Send me one, people, because I

635
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Speaker 2: will wave it proudly when they lose.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, they got him like that guy just

637
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Speaker 3: was like, m he's gonna go cry in his cub's hat.

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Speaker 6: It's like, I flew all the way to the Vatican

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Speaker 6: to see the Pope.

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Speaker 1: He shaded me there it is. I'm here though, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the front lawn.

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Speaker 4: Oh every time, because I got neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I got neighbors that fly the W flag when I'm

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Speaker 2: driving by, and there are times I just want to, like, go,

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Speaker 2: let that hang on fire.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got a couple of them in your neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 3: I thought all Chicago people vacationed or moved down to Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: They must live here.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of people that fly him, and there

652
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Speaker 2: are times where I just want I want to go

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Speaker 2: up to him. I don't know them and just say, hey,

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Speaker 2: can you guys fly the L flag when they lose

655
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Speaker 2: because you're here so excited when they win.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you be so excited when they lose?

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Speaker 3: My favorite, my favorite troll that the Brewers social media

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Speaker 3: did to the Cubs social media was the one year

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Speaker 3: the Brewers finished the season first in the NL Centro

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Speaker 3: and they said, are you going to keep those flags

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Speaker 3: up all season? Asking for a friend because they always

662
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Speaker 3: have the standings and it's so you have to keep

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Speaker 3: like the Brewers are above the Cubs. How long do

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Speaker 3: they keep those flags up?

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Speaker 1: I think guess buck got to than box scores. Let's

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Speaker 1: hit the Alcs. And if you regularly follow this show,

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Speaker 1: you would hear aj Perzinski often alluding to the fact

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Speaker 1: that it is very possible to have an offensive explosion

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. Example, a game three of the Alcs sixteen

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Speaker 1: total runs, eight home runs ties a postseason record for

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Speaker 1: one single game. Toronto alone had eighteen hits and five homers.

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Speaker 1: So I guess you can hit in Seattle at times?

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Speaker 1: Did anything look different to you besides the ball clearly

674
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Speaker 1: carrying quite nicely?

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Speaker 4: Well, they were going APO. That was nice. I mean

676
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Speaker 4: Kirk's ball was smack. I mean he hit that. I

677
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Speaker 4: was like he started trotting right away.

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Speaker 2: I was like, dang, minded me back in the day

679
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Speaker 2: when like Brett Boone would hit it to right and

680
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Speaker 2: just flip his bath. I'm telling you, man, when I listen,

681
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Speaker 2: when it was safe, it was safe going now. T

682
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Speaker 2: Mobile was first built, we used to love going in

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Speaker 2: there to hit. The only thing we hoped for was

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Speaker 2: a day game. The roof was closed because or it

685
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Speaker 2: was cloudy. If it was open because if it was sunny,

686
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Speaker 2: the backdrop was a little bit bright, and we'd always

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Speaker 2: get Felix Hernandez. On the day games, we're like, oh man,

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Speaker 2: can we at least get a little cloudiness. But other

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Speaker 2: than that, I always loved hitting in Seattle, maybe because

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Speaker 2: I hit my first big league homer in Seattle, and

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of good memories Phil Humber's perfect

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Speaker 2: game and some other things, but I always really liked

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Speaker 2: ititting there, And they used to have to hit it

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Speaker 2: here cafe, and we used to take turns just teeing

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Speaker 2: off on trying to hit the bulls eye up there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't like the ball didn't carry there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's changed. I guess the human are changed.

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Speaker 2: I guess historically lefties hit better for power there. Rovana

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Speaker 2: has said that years ago. He's like, man, you gotta

700
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Speaker 2: be you gotta be big boy pop to hit to

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Speaker 2: hit him out right handed. But to me, it looked

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Speaker 2: last night like it just it just looked like everything

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Speaker 2: was gonna everything was gonna go out.

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Speaker 3: You put the ball in the air. Normally fly ball pitchers,

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Speaker 3: that's where you want to go. Last night, not so much,

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Speaker 3: because I get it. The one was a wall scraper.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm forgetting who was one of the late ones

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Speaker 3: by the Mariners, but it was. It was a wall scraper.

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Speaker 3: It was almost robbed, but man, like every other one

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Speaker 3: was deep sauce.

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Speaker 1: Cow just over the Yeah, Lucas leaped and they showed

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Speaker 1: the replay. It was somewhat close. That was the eighth

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Speaker 1: where you had the Randy and Cow back to back dingers.

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Speaker 1: And they're hoping that Randy lights up because he's a

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Speaker 1: streaky player and he had a really powerful year, and

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Speaker 1: I do think that he's one of the keys to

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Speaker 1: the Mariners actually winning the World Series. To get through

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Speaker 1: this series, I think they could get away with him

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Speaker 1: still slumping. To get through the Dodgers, I think Brandy's

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Speaker 1: going to have to be much more of a catalyst

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Speaker 1: at the top of the lineup, just throwing that in there.

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Speaker 1: But on the Toronto side, AJ two things stood out

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Speaker 1: to me. Let's start with Shane Bieber. This is why

724
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Speaker 1: you go for a pitcher like this at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: And there is risk to it because he hasn't even

726
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Speaker 1: made I think that was his ninth start since coming

727
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Speaker 1: back from surgery and missing a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: But he's got that in him. And they talked a

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Speaker 1: lot on the broadcast about how the slider looked flat

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Speaker 1: in the first inning, and he clearly made an adjustment

731
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Speaker 1: and got the break and the bite on it, and

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Speaker 1: he was flowing them left and right. He looked like

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Speaker 1: vinted Shane Bieber. And if that's what they have, they

734
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Speaker 1: suddenly have a number one or two starter that they

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Speaker 1: were hoping to acquire at the deadline.

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Speaker 2: Well here's here's I mean, he's got one of the

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Speaker 2: best sliders, breaking balls, whatever slurve, sweeper curve, whatever the heck,

738
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Speaker 2: knuckle curve, you know, whatever they I mean, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: his ball literally comes at you when you watch it

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Speaker 2: on TV, and it looks like it stops and then

741
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Speaker 2: it just makes a turn.

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Speaker 4: Right. I mean, it looks it's like, hmmm, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it just it just like looks like it stops. And

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Speaker 4: you talked about Randy A. Roseorina.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I watched his bat last night. He had

746
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Speaker 2: no chance on those sliders. He was throwing those sliders.

747
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Speaker 2: He was throwing just enough fastballs up and in and

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Speaker 2: into these right handed hitters to get them off, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, he would just throw that

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Speaker 2: slider and they just kept swinging out, swinging out, swinging

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Speaker 2: a swinging I couldn't hit it after the first inning

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Speaker 2: after Julio hit the one. So I think that he's

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Speaker 2: got one of the best breaking pitch combinations whatever, however

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Speaker 2: you want a word at that I've seen in a

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 4: When he's healthy, this is what he can do, and.

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Speaker 3: He did make. He did make I think seven minor

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Speaker 3: league starts. So it's kind of a it's kind of

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00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: cool to see, like the parallel sho Hee Otani rehabbed

760
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 3: in the big leagues, Shane Bieber rehabbed, but both started

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Speaker 3: kind of at the same time, and so like they're

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Speaker 3: at those outings and sometimes they have little blips during these,

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Speaker 3: I would still call it rehab. Like he's probably sixteen

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Speaker 3: starts into his Tommy John rehab coming back from Tommy John.

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Speaker 3: So you're gonna have everybody has flat innings, even even

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Speaker 3: healthy pictures have flat innings. But to still come back

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Speaker 3: and then be able to make that adjustment, My question

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Speaker 3: would be, what if what if the Mariner or the

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays hadn't blown it open? Would they have given

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Speaker 3: him that chance to shine like he did last night?

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Speaker 3: My opinion probably not. They just don't. They don't let

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Speaker 3: pitchers shine, and a guy like that has that has

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Speaker 3: a lot of experience. Sometimes you just gotta let him eat.

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Speaker 3: You gotta let him go out there. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that's what they gotta do with Max tonight. I'm saying

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Speaker 3: you gotta let him figure it out and get in

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Speaker 3: the groove of the game, even if it is a

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Speaker 3: one runner tie ball game.

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Speaker 1: I mean they certainly didn't give him a long leash

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Speaker 1: against the Yankees. I mean he looked much or this

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Speaker 1: time around, But who knows, maybe he gets out of

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Speaker 1: that inning and then as a great fourth and fifth

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Speaker 1: or even sixth for them like he did last night.

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Speaker 1: He was fantastic. Other thing, we have some evidence here

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Speaker 1: on Laddie Junior's swing and miss because it keeps going

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Speaker 1: down at the right time. I mean, he's a very

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Speaker 1: complete hitter. I would say his profile right AJ. He's

805
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Speaker 1: got pop, he's got the hit tool, he can take

806
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: a walk. But we have this board here from Mike

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Speaker 1: Petriello showing the swing and miss percentage by month. I

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00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: mean it started coming back down in September from a

809
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Speaker 1: high in August. The high in August was around twenty

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Speaker 1: three percent. Now in October he's down to about eleven percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what you want to see in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: You want to see guys that step it up in

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Speaker 2: the postseason. Lady's done this. I mean the only I

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Speaker 2: think the only thing that people complain about Lotti is

815
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Speaker 2: they think he should be a fifty to sixty home guy.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think he's gonna be that. He's going

817
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: to be a thirty ish home run maybe some years

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00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more, some years a little bit less.

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Speaker 2: But because he usually makes good to swinging decisions and

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Speaker 2: he usually hits for a relatively high average, I think

821
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Speaker 2: he's a complete hitter. And I know some people say, oh,

822
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Speaker 2: we should hit more homers, but this just he can

823
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Speaker 2: carry a lineup when he.

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Speaker 4: Needs to, and he's been doing that this postseason.

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Speaker 3: I think not striking out in the playoffs is a quality,

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Speaker 3: is a quality trait to have. Obviously, that's a that's

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Speaker 3: a general statement, but not swinging and missing like low

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Speaker 3: swing and miss prime example right here on the show,

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Speaker 3: AJ Persinski Prime doesn't swing and miss at a lot

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Speaker 3: of pitches. Doesn't strike out a lot either, but doesn't

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Speaker 3: swing and miss at a lot of pitches. Career three hundred,

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Speaker 3: career three hundred batting average in the postseason almost a

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Speaker 3: nine hundred. Ops like you perform at the biggest levels

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Speaker 3: because they're not going to make you swing and miss. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe the maybe the Blue Jays early in this series

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Speaker 3: have put too many balls in play, swung too early.

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Speaker 3: Now they win and they bot race the Mariners and

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Speaker 3: they flip the script. They were swinging early, they were

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Speaker 3: super aggressive. So you gotta to me there are certain

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Speaker 3: traits that play well in the postseason and not swinging

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Speaker 3: and missing clearly as wonderfum.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's spin it forward. What do we have

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Speaker 1: for Luis Castillo and Max Schurz are matching up in

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Speaker 1: Game four? Castillo has been really good in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you got to see him AJ pitch a couple

846
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Speaker 1: times in that series. I will point out the Tigers

847
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: offense quite different from the Blue Jays offense. I don't

848
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Speaker 1: think you can get much different between those two and

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Speaker 1: Castillo was beat up in a couple starts against the

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Speaker 1: Blue Blue Jays this year, eight turned runs in ten

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Speaker 1: innings seventeen hits. Do you factor that into how you'd

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Speaker 1: predict this thing.

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Speaker 2: No, doesn't mean does not mean anything at all. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean a thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 2: It could have been a bad day, could have been

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Speaker 2: a little sores, you know, as something could have been

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00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: going on at home, you know, could have had a

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00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: bad meal before they get I don't know. There's a

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00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: million things. No, it doesn't mean anything. What I look

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00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: for is short leashes for both these guys.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna I don't think. Listen, if

864
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: any either of them gets through the fifth inning, I

865
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: think that would be considered a great start, because both

866
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 2: managers bullpens are in good spots, and I think they're

867
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: both gonna get them in there as soon as possible,

868
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: especially the Mariners.

869
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: I think the Mariners for sure, and.

870
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: Well, I shouldn't say also the Blue Jays because Max,

871
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: we just don't know. And if Max gives you three

872
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: to four, he gets into the fifth, John Snyder is

873
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: gonna be like, all right, thank you, and hopefully they're

874
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: in the game.

875
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: And boom.

876
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: Here we go with the bullpen guys, because the bullpen

877
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: for Toronto can be good when when they get the right.

878
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: Matchups or when they don't have to pitch every single night.

879
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: Louis Viarland's like standing there in the bullpen going what

880
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: the game's over? I didn't even get to pitch. I

881
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: was gonna break a record. Another thing you have to

882
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: look at Louis Castillo's outings. They came within hang on,

883
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the exact number of days apart from

884
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: each other. He faced them thirteen days. No, I'm sorry,

885
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: nineteen days apart. There was two starts in between there,

886
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: and you know, you see a guy, you see a

887
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: guy a second time. They got ten hits in the

888
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: first game against them this season, so they got their hits.

889
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: But he went six innings. He went I'm sorry, he

890
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: went five innings, had five punchouts. The next time out

891
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: when he faced them, he went five innings again, but

892
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: they scored five runs. So teams make adjustments, pitchers make adjustments.

893
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: That's why the regular season doesn't necessarily always coincide with

894
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: what's going to happen in the postseason.

895
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: And also in general, with a series like this, and

896
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: really with a postseason like this, I guess aside from

897
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: the Dodgers dominating, it's been quite unpredictable. Kevin Plar the

898
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: other day said to expect this series to go against

899
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: whatever you're thinking.

900
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 4: We've got to clut out and nobody can win at home.

901
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: Number one.

902
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: I keep saying home field advantage in baseball is the

903
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 2: most overrated thing ever. Nobody can win at home in baseball.

904
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's a lot of times it's better

905
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: to be the road team. There's just less distractions, less

906
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: things on your plate. And we've seen it so far

907
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: in the LCS. The road teams are five and zher.

908
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: That's true, less tickets to hand out too. Do we

909
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: have the clip of KP we can show it real quick.

910
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 10: I think this series just has funkiness written all over it.

911
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 10: This just feels weird to me. This just feels like

912
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 10: there's gonna be a series where if you try to

913
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 10: predict that what's going to happen, if you're betting on

914
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 10: the favorites to win, it just feels weird. And I

915
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 10: think the Blue Jays are not down and out. This

916
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 10: is coming from experience, someone that was down tooh in

917
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 10: a seven game series in an ALCS.

918
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 4: But if you just can.

919
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 10: Figure out a way to get that series back home,

920
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 10: you've got to love getting back home. So they just

921
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 10: got to figure out a way to win two. They

922
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 10: don't have to win all three. I would feel confident

923
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 10: in them coming back three to two, down three two,

924
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 10: back home to Toronto in front of the best home

925
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 10: crowd in baseball, and I mean from there anything could happen.

926
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 10: But I don't think they're out. I just think there's

927
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 10: something weird going on this series where if you try

928
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 10: to predict what's going to happen, the opposite's going to happen.

929
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: Hey, j there's an ESPN article about Albert Poohols also

930
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: potentially in the running for the Orioles job. Do you

931
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: think it's real or he's trying to gain some leverage

932
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: in his ongoing discussions with the Angels. Those are two

933
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: very different jobs.

934
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, what as Albert pools to listen? He was

935
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: a great player, but what has he done to say

936
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: that he should be the manager of any big league team?

937
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: I mean, he listen. I think he's going to get

938
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: the Angels job. They're already paying on what ten million

939
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 2: dollars a year or some crazy number to one million

940
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: special or whatever special services contract or whatever it is.

941
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

942
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: I mean, you would think the Orioles would definitely want

943
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: to go in the direction of somebody that has some

944
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: experience to try to run that team, because they're supposed

945
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: to be set up for success. The Angels are the

946
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: wildcard here, But I don't know. I mean, listen, Albert's

947
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: a nice guy and he's an unbelievable player, but is

948
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: he a manager.

949
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: We don't know.

950
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: Nobody knows because he hasn't done any Yeah, I guess

951
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: he would manage in the Winner League or he demanded

952
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: he managed the Dominican maybe in WBC, But it's not

953
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: the same as running a baseball team every single day.

954
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Angels can take that risk in my mind, or cannot.

955
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: They're in their winning window. If it doesn't work, your

956
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: front office should be moving on. That is way too

957
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: risky times.

958
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: Now, this is this is like a this is a

959
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: current or a current manager that you're poaching from somebody

960
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: or a X manager that has had some success. Sorry,

961
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: that's the reality of it.

962
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: Back for a couple of minutes and then we'll talk

963
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: to Zax Scott. We went over this a lot yesterday.

964
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: They actually had the end of season press conference today

965
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: for the Yankees. A couple notes Aaron Judge will not

966
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: need surgery, so that's good news. Aaron Boone said he's

967
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: going to take some time off and continue to do

968
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: a strengthening thing and rehab stuff. Carlos rare Don had

969
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: of bonespur removed, so he's not going to throw for

970
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: eight weeks, but sounds like he should be ready to

971
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: go in spring training. Anthony Volpi will not be ready

972
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: for spring training, and it sounds like he won't be

973
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 1: ready for the start of the season. He cannot swing

974
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: at all for four months. He can't dive, so he's

975
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: going to be pretty limited with the shoulder after the surgery.

976
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: The debate yesterday AJ was me against Kratz and Todd Father.

977
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: I think they need to explore other shortstop options at

978
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: this point. Despite the shoulder injury excuse, the season looked

979
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: very much the same from a bat perspective this year

980
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: compared to the prior two years. I know the offense

981
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: the defense took a big step back, but the bat's

982
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: not there.

983
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: It's been the same for every year he's been there.

984
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: It's been just six around six whatever six something ops

985
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: every time and under one hundred ops plus. He's not

986
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: even average offensive player. I know he has moments, but yeah,

987
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: I think you have to explore all options. If you're

988
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: the Yankees, you haven't won in a long time. Let's

989
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: not forget it's been since two thousand and nine, so

990
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: that's we're going on what sixteen years. That's a long,

991
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: long time long draft for the Yankees. So I think

992
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: you have to be open to anything and everything. You know,

993
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: they're kind of stuck. I think Bellingers already said he's

994
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna opt out. You know, you're kind of stuck, because

995
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: what do you do? You know, you have the Stanton

996
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: and Judge and then you have freed. You got Cole

997
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: coming back. Listen, they're starting pitching. Could be awesome next year, right,

998
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: but you got to fill some other holes and if

999
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: you can make if you know, some team will take

1000
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: both being and give you an option, I do it.

1001
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, man, all right? AJ quick?

1002
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: What do you got?

1003
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: All right?

1004
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: So I was at the airport flying um from Seattle,

1005
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: King Griffy Junior standing next to me for like twenty

1006
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: minutes twenty five minutes terminal, not one Mariners fan knew

1007
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: who he was.

1008
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: He literally was King Griffrey Jr.

1009
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: There was a guy with the Griffrey jersey standing five

1010
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 2: feet away from us.

1011
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: I'm staying there talking to Kay Griffy Jr. Not one

1012
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: fan knew who he was.

1013
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: The craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

1014
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,560
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