1 00:00:14,824 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: Pushkin. 2 00:00:30,384 --> 00:00:36,504 Speaker 2: The conditions for our tours had deteriorated as the success 3 00:00:36,544 --> 00:00:43,344 Speaker 2: had come along. The crowds had got louder, the venues 4 00:00:43,384 --> 00:00:46,944 Speaker 2: had got bigger, and so now we were getting a 5 00:00:46,944 --> 00:01:03,984 Speaker 2: little bit fed up with him. The guys variously had said, 6 00:01:03,984 --> 00:01:06,544 Speaker 2: oh God, this is terrible, dis terrible. George had said that, 7 00:01:06,744 --> 00:01:09,304 Speaker 2: John had said that, I think even Ringo it's sort 8 00:01:09,304 --> 00:01:13,664 Speaker 2: of expressed displeasure of the whole thing. I generally just 9 00:01:13,704 --> 00:01:17,584 Speaker 2: sort of soldiered on, but after this candlestick Park, I 10 00:01:17,664 --> 00:01:18,624 Speaker 2: just finally said. 11 00:01:18,424 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 1: Oh, fucking he, this is like just so bad. I 12 00:01:22,064 --> 00:01:24,304 Speaker 1: agree with all you guys, we should just give up 13 00:01:24,344 --> 00:01:24,584 Speaker 1: to it. 14 00:01:33,264 --> 00:01:36,824 Speaker 2: These circumstances were at the time that I'd been doing 15 00:01:36,904 --> 00:01:42,384 Speaker 2: too much of everything. Fell asleep, had a dream where 16 00:01:42,464 --> 00:01:47,064 Speaker 2: my mom, who died ten years previously, came to me. 17 00:01:47,864 --> 00:01:50,424 Speaker 1: And she said, let it be. 18 00:01:56,104 --> 00:02:02,144 Speaker 2: Seeing her beautiful, kind face, I immediately felt at ease 19 00:02:03,104 --> 00:02:10,704 Speaker 2: and loved, and she said words, she said. 20 00:02:10,704 --> 00:02:17,304 Speaker 3: Being word, just y, I love, Yes, let it be, 21 00:02:18,024 --> 00:02:22,384 Speaker 3: Let it be, Let it be, Let it be. 22 00:02:23,504 --> 00:02:24,704 Speaker 4: Oh, I could. 23 00:02:24,744 --> 00:02:27,504 Speaker 1: Tell you, but let it be. 24 00:02:36,864 --> 00:02:40,904 Speaker 4: I'm Paul, will do. And I've been fortunate to spend 25 00:02:40,984 --> 00:02:45,064 Speaker 4: time with one of the greatest songwriters of our era and. 26 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:45,784 Speaker 1: Will you look at me? 27 00:02:46,584 --> 00:02:49,704 Speaker 2: I'm going on to I'm actually a performer. 28 00:02:49,624 --> 00:02:53,184 Speaker 4: That is sir Paul McCartney. We worked together on a 29 00:02:53,264 --> 00:02:55,784 Speaker 4: book looking at the lyrics of more than one hundred 30 00:02:55,824 --> 00:03:00,064 Speaker 4: and fifty of his songs, and we recorded many hours 31 00:03:00,344 --> 00:03:02,384 Speaker 4: of our conversations. 32 00:03:01,784 --> 00:03:04,904 Speaker 2: Oh she's a songwriter, My god, Well. 33 00:03:05,104 --> 00:03:11,304 Speaker 4: Crypt homie, this is McCartney. A life lyrics, a masterclass, 34 00:03:11,544 --> 00:03:14,984 Speaker 4: a memoir, and an improvised journey with one of the 35 00:03:15,024 --> 00:03:20,424 Speaker 4: most iconic figures in popular music. In this episode let 36 00:03:20,504 --> 00:03:25,824 Speaker 4: it Be. It was nineteen sixty eight and the Beatles 37 00:03:25,904 --> 00:03:33,784 Speaker 4: were recording the White Album in Tensions were high in 38 00:03:34,184 --> 00:03:39,624 Speaker 4: and out of the studio. The band's members were beginning 39 00:03:39,664 --> 00:03:53,664 Speaker 4: to pursue individual interests and songwriting styles. Lennon and McCartney's 40 00:03:53,704 --> 00:03:58,944 Speaker 4: friendship was becoming increasingly strained. The group was still mourning 41 00:03:58,984 --> 00:04:03,464 Speaker 4: the nineteen sixty seven death of their manager Brian Epstein. 42 00:04:04,184 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 4: The Beatles were barreling toward their eventual breakup. 43 00:04:13,824 --> 00:04:17,024 Speaker 2: We were heading towards the breakup of the Beatles, and 44 00:04:18,304 --> 00:04:22,104 Speaker 2: it was a period of change because John and Yoko 45 00:04:22,424 --> 00:04:26,024 Speaker 2: had got together and that was bound to have an 46 00:04:26,064 --> 00:04:29,984 Speaker 2: effect on the dynamics of the group. 47 00:04:30,784 --> 00:04:34,424 Speaker 4: As the love between John Lennon and the artist Yoko 48 00:04:34,464 --> 00:04:41,464 Speaker 4: Ono was intensifying, the two became utterly inseparable. John insisted 49 00:04:41,584 --> 00:04:45,824 Speaker 4: Yoko be present in the studio, So things. 50 00:04:45,624 --> 00:04:48,264 Speaker 2: Like Yoko being in the in the middle, literally in 51 00:04:48,264 --> 00:04:52,144 Speaker 2: the middle of the recording session was, you know, something 52 00:04:52,144 --> 00:04:55,504 Speaker 2: you had to deal with. And the idea was that 53 00:04:55,544 --> 00:04:58,744 Speaker 2: if John wanted this to happen, then it should happen. 54 00:04:59,264 --> 00:05:00,584 Speaker 1: And there's no reason why not. 55 00:05:01,224 --> 00:05:04,464 Speaker 5: Well except that there is a reason why not. You know, 56 00:05:04,544 --> 00:05:05,904 Speaker 5: you're there to do some work. 57 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:18,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, and anything that disturbed us is disturbing. At a 58 00:05:18,104 --> 00:05:22,504 Speaker 2: deference to John, we will allow this and not make 59 00:05:22,544 --> 00:05:23,104 Speaker 2: a fuss. 60 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,184 Speaker 1: And yet at the same time. 61 00:05:25,864 --> 00:05:30,024 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us particularly liked it. 62 00:05:30,024 --> 00:05:30,624 Speaker 1: It was. 63 00:05:32,024 --> 00:05:36,224 Speaker 2: An interference in the workplace. We had a way we worked. 64 00:05:36,224 --> 00:05:40,104 Speaker 2: The four of us worked with George Martin and an 65 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:44,024 Speaker 2: engineer and that was basically it, and we'd always done 66 00:05:44,064 --> 00:05:49,744 Speaker 2: it like that, So not being very confrontational, I think 67 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:51,984 Speaker 2: we just bottled it up and just got on with it. 68 00:05:58,784 --> 00:06:01,344 Speaker 5: And you had to make it work because the idea 69 00:06:01,384 --> 00:06:03,704 Speaker 5: of the Beatles, it was something that you wanted to 70 00:06:03,704 --> 00:06:06,784 Speaker 5: continue with. I suppose it's hun profile. I mean it 71 00:06:06,904 --> 00:06:08,064 Speaker 5: was such a great thing. 72 00:06:08,304 --> 00:06:10,144 Speaker 2: I mean it was the idea of the Beatles was 73 00:06:10,184 --> 00:06:13,664 Speaker 2: also just a straight practical thing of this was our job. 74 00:06:14,304 --> 00:06:18,304 Speaker 2: This is what we did in life. We were the Beatles. 75 00:06:18,664 --> 00:06:23,424 Speaker 2: That meant if we didn't tour, we recorded, and that 76 00:06:23,544 --> 00:06:25,144 Speaker 2: meant if we recorded, we wrote. 77 00:06:30,664 --> 00:06:35,464 Speaker 6: When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary 78 00:06:35,664 --> 00:06:40,824 Speaker 6: comes to me speaking words of wisdom, Let it be. 79 00:06:43,624 --> 00:06:48,384 Speaker 7: And in my old redondness, she is standing right in 80 00:06:48,584 --> 00:06:52,504 Speaker 7: front of me speaking words of wisdom. 81 00:06:52,744 --> 00:06:56,264 Speaker 3: Let it be, Let it be. 82 00:06:56,424 --> 00:07:00,704 Speaker 4: Paul McCartney says this impulse to avoid confrontation, to be 83 00:07:00,904 --> 00:07:05,304 Speaker 4: accommodating may have been passed done from his parents, who 84 00:07:05,424 --> 00:07:10,304 Speaker 4: valued kindness and good manners and taught so values to 85 00:07:10,384 --> 00:07:11,024 Speaker 4: their children. 86 00:07:12,024 --> 00:07:16,784 Speaker 2: We were encouraged to be good guys in our family, 87 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:18,904 Speaker 2: so that you know, if we were at a bus 88 00:07:18,904 --> 00:07:23,744 Speaker 2: stop and there were women in the queue, my dad 89 00:07:23,784 --> 00:07:27,384 Speaker 2: would raise his trophy to them good morning, and he 90 00:07:27,504 --> 00:07:30,944 Speaker 2: encouraged us to raise our school caps good morning. 91 00:07:31,424 --> 00:07:31,904 Speaker 8: He was. 92 00:07:33,624 --> 00:07:38,144 Speaker 2: That kind of polite, gentlemanly guy, even though they were 93 00:07:38,184 --> 00:07:41,984 Speaker 2: working class. All my family, I think were like that, 94 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:43,784 Speaker 2: and when. 95 00:07:43,424 --> 00:07:50,064 Speaker 6: They're broken hearted people living in the world agreed there 96 00:07:50,104 --> 00:07:51,424 Speaker 6: will be an answer. 97 00:07:52,184 --> 00:07:52,664 Speaker 3: Let it be. 98 00:07:54,824 --> 00:07:58,024 Speaker 2: I like that, it's nice to be nice. 99 00:07:58,224 --> 00:07:59,744 Speaker 1: I like courtesy. 100 00:08:00,264 --> 00:08:07,464 Speaker 2: I value politeness, courtesy, and don't particularly like confrontation. If 101 00:08:07,504 --> 00:08:10,504 Speaker 2: it's absolutely necessary, then you do it. 102 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:12,584 Speaker 1: But I mean generally speaking, we. 103 00:08:12,464 --> 00:08:15,744 Speaker 2: Would try, all of us, I think, would try not 104 00:08:15,904 --> 00:08:16,464 Speaker 2: to do that. 105 00:08:18,984 --> 00:08:23,264 Speaker 7: There is still a chest and they will see there 106 00:08:23,504 --> 00:08:24,704 Speaker 7: will be an answer. 107 00:08:25,704 --> 00:08:26,504 Speaker 3: Let it be. 108 00:08:28,904 --> 00:08:32,824 Speaker 4: Let it be as a refrain is a moral message, 109 00:08:33,224 --> 00:08:36,984 Speaker 4: echoing other hits that were popular when Paul McCartney was 110 00:08:37,024 --> 00:08:41,384 Speaker 4: growing up, Like k Sarah Sarah, when. 111 00:08:41,264 --> 00:08:46,304 Speaker 5: I was just a little hugerl I asked my mother 112 00:08:46,904 --> 00:08:48,224 Speaker 5: what will I be? 113 00:08:49,984 --> 00:08:53,264 Speaker 3: Will I be pretty? Will I be rich? 114 00:08:54,024 --> 00:09:00,144 Speaker 7: Here's what she said to me, Kay, s. 115 00:09:02,384 --> 00:09:06,104 Speaker 2: I've always known that people in listening to your song 116 00:09:06,704 --> 00:09:09,984 Speaker 2: may take a message away, So that if your song 117 00:09:10,144 --> 00:09:13,864 Speaker 2: is a good message love is all you need, then 118 00:09:14,464 --> 00:09:18,144 Speaker 2: that's a good message to put out rather than sympathy 119 00:09:18,184 --> 00:09:18,784 Speaker 2: for the devil. 120 00:09:20,864 --> 00:09:29,504 Speaker 8: Plead to meet you will get day. But what you 121 00:09:30,064 --> 00:09:33,504 Speaker 8: with the nature of Magame. 122 00:09:34,984 --> 00:09:38,864 Speaker 2: You know, mis not a bad boy at all, It's 123 00:09:38,984 --> 00:09:43,344 Speaker 2: exactly opposite. But his image is to show is of that. 124 00:09:44,224 --> 00:09:46,984 Speaker 2: Whereas we just didn't really have a bothered with that. 125 00:09:52,064 --> 00:09:56,304 Speaker 4: Whereas the Rolling Stones wrote songs about sex, drugs, and 126 00:09:56,504 --> 00:10:00,224 Speaker 4: rock and roll, the Beatles wrote lyrics that were more 127 00:10:00,384 --> 00:10:04,104 Speaker 4: likely to be parent approved, or that would at least 128 00:10:04,424 --> 00:10:08,704 Speaker 4: sound familiar to parents who are listening to other classics. 129 00:10:09,264 --> 00:10:16,384 Speaker 6: The time kaya, whatever will be, will be? 130 00:10:17,304 --> 00:10:19,664 Speaker 3: The future is not ours. 131 00:10:19,344 --> 00:10:23,904 Speaker 7: To see, okayeta seta. 132 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:27,544 Speaker 3: What will be will be? 133 00:10:28,784 --> 00:10:29,984 Speaker 1: Whatever will be will be? 134 00:10:30,224 --> 00:10:33,184 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well do you think in any way it might 135 00:10:33,224 --> 00:10:36,104 Speaker 5: be feeding into this a little bit? No? 136 00:10:36,304 --> 00:10:40,184 Speaker 2: I mean there were loads of songs that were about stuff, 137 00:10:40,264 --> 00:10:44,304 Speaker 2: that were encouraging you to be good, and I think 138 00:10:44,384 --> 00:10:46,024 Speaker 2: Cassah is one of them. 139 00:10:46,024 --> 00:10:47,584 Speaker 1: When I was a little girl, I asked my mother, 140 00:10:47,664 --> 00:10:51,784 Speaker 1: what would I be? Will be this? The mother said, 141 00:10:52,784 --> 00:10:53,944 Speaker 1: who knows? You know? 142 00:10:54,224 --> 00:10:57,104 Speaker 2: Case Rah, what will be will be? But that's not 143 00:10:57,224 --> 00:10:57,584 Speaker 2: let it be. 144 00:11:02,904 --> 00:11:07,584 Speaker 4: Paul McCartney's mother had passed away when he was only fourteen, 145 00:11:08,184 --> 00:11:12,984 Speaker 4: and both heard death and her absence strongly influenced the 146 00:11:13,064 --> 00:11:16,544 Speaker 4: young songwriter, so it's not a surprise that in such 147 00:11:16,584 --> 00:11:20,424 Speaker 4: a time of stress, it would be his mother who 148 00:11:20,424 --> 00:11:24,064 Speaker 4: would come to comfort him in a dream. His mother, 149 00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:27,344 Speaker 4: whose name was in fact Mary, and I. 150 00:11:27,344 --> 00:11:33,184 Speaker 2: Sort of fell into the dream feeling great, and woke 151 00:11:33,304 --> 00:11:37,504 Speaker 2: up feeling still feeling great, and thinking, oh, I'm remembering 152 00:11:37,544 --> 00:11:41,984 Speaker 2: the dream and remembering how she looked and how it felt, 153 00:11:42,624 --> 00:11:46,344 Speaker 2: and what she said. And I remembered particularly that she 154 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:49,624 Speaker 2: said the words let it be. Because of this dream, 155 00:11:49,864 --> 00:11:54,304 Speaker 2: I woke up and thought, that is that's a great 156 00:11:54,344 --> 00:11:58,384 Speaker 2: subject for a song, and I will start it with 157 00:11:58,504 --> 00:12:02,104 Speaker 2: my present circumstances. When I find myself in time to 158 00:12:02,184 --> 00:12:05,944 Speaker 2: trouble Mother Mary comes to me, it's just exactly what 159 00:12:06,024 --> 00:12:10,824 Speaker 2: has just happened, speaking words of will let it be. 160 00:12:13,544 --> 00:12:19,224 Speaker 3: Let it be, let it be, let it be, Let it. 161 00:12:19,104 --> 00:12:23,064 Speaker 4: Be for all. Paul McCartney knew the words let it 162 00:12:23,104 --> 00:12:27,704 Speaker 4: be had come from his subconscious or as a message 163 00:12:27,824 --> 00:12:31,304 Speaker 4: from beyond the grave, but after the song was released, 164 00:12:31,744 --> 00:12:35,504 Speaker 4: he realized that he may have encountered these words long 165 00:12:35,584 --> 00:12:38,264 Speaker 4: before he wrote the lyrics, back when he was a 166 00:12:38,304 --> 00:12:43,104 Speaker 4: schoolboy at the Liverpool Institute for Boys. There, in the 167 00:12:43,144 --> 00:12:48,624 Speaker 4: English class of Paul's favored and most formative teacher, Alan Durband, 168 00:12:49,064 --> 00:12:53,304 Speaker 4: the students read Shakespeare's Hamlet for the first time. 169 00:12:53,664 --> 00:12:56,784 Speaker 2: So in those days it had to learn speeches off 170 00:12:56,824 --> 00:12:59,024 Speaker 2: by heart. So I could still do a bit of 171 00:12:59,104 --> 00:13:01,224 Speaker 2: a bill, not to be all over this two two 172 00:13:01,304 --> 00:13:04,544 Speaker 2: solid flash. And it had been pointed out to me 173 00:13:04,704 --> 00:13:11,784 Speaker 2: recently that Hamlet isn't He actually says, let it be. 174 00:13:12,944 --> 00:13:17,024 Speaker 2: I don't recall back five scene two. It just happened 175 00:13:17,024 --> 00:13:23,344 Speaker 2: to so we can give you the exact quote. He 176 00:13:23,424 --> 00:13:27,824 Speaker 2: says let be the first time, but then the second 177 00:13:27,864 --> 00:13:32,944 Speaker 2: time he says, had I got time as this fell? 178 00:13:33,064 --> 00:13:35,664 Speaker 1: Sergeant death is strict in his arrest. 179 00:13:36,304 --> 00:13:41,104 Speaker 2: Oh, I could tell you, but let it be, Horatio. 180 00:13:42,064 --> 00:13:46,944 Speaker 7: Let it be, Let it be, Let it be. 181 00:13:47,544 --> 00:13:52,744 Speaker 4: With these words, the Prince of Denmark clutching his fatal wound, 182 00:13:53,664 --> 00:13:57,344 Speaker 4: except that his death is eminent, that he will not 183 00:13:57,584 --> 00:14:00,224 Speaker 4: live to tell his tragic story. 184 00:14:00,504 --> 00:14:04,144 Speaker 2: But I was interested that I was exposed to those 185 00:14:04,184 --> 00:14:06,584 Speaker 2: words during a time when I was. 186 00:14:08,144 --> 00:14:10,424 Speaker 1: Studying Shakespeare. It so did. 187 00:14:11,824 --> 00:14:18,104 Speaker 2: Years later, the phrase appears to me in a dream, 188 00:14:18,144 --> 00:14:21,944 Speaker 2: with my mother saying, now, of course, I must realize 189 00:14:22,224 --> 00:14:26,224 Speaker 2: that it's it's me saying it through her. It's kind of, 190 00:14:26,264 --> 00:14:27,384 Speaker 2: I think, very interesting. 191 00:14:27,944 --> 00:14:32,424 Speaker 4: The phrase let it be seems simple enough when we 192 00:14:32,504 --> 00:14:35,544 Speaker 4: first hear it, but we might each take it to 193 00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:37,144 Speaker 4: mean something different. 194 00:14:37,704 --> 00:14:40,304 Speaker 2: Please God, let it let it be. I want a 195 00:14:40,424 --> 00:14:45,144 Speaker 2: rand new car. Let it be, you know, knock it off, 196 00:14:45,344 --> 00:14:48,744 Speaker 2: pack it in, let it be, just don't don't bother, 197 00:14:49,184 --> 00:14:50,024 Speaker 2: you know, just let it be. 198 00:14:51,344 --> 00:14:54,384 Speaker 5: And there's let's leave things as they are. 199 00:14:54,544 --> 00:14:57,944 Speaker 2: It's okay, which is pointed out to me, is the 200 00:14:58,064 --> 00:15:00,264 Speaker 2: answer to to be or not to be? 201 00:15:01,504 --> 00:15:08,624 Speaker 1: M let it be? 202 00:15:05,224 --> 00:15:16,224 Speaker 4: With to be or not to be Hamlet's famous question. 203 00:15:16,944 --> 00:15:19,504 Speaker 4: It was also, in a sense the question that was 204 00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:22,944 Speaker 4: beginning to haunt the Beatles as a group. Their future 205 00:15:22,984 --> 00:15:27,624 Speaker 4: existence as a band was entirely uncertain. In that way, 206 00:15:27,744 --> 00:15:31,184 Speaker 4: both meanings of the phrase let it be are fitting. 207 00:15:31,824 --> 00:15:35,384 Speaker 4: Let it be as hopeful plea, let it be as 208 00:15:35,704 --> 00:15:48,864 Speaker 4: stoic resignation, let it be Eddy. 209 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:47,464 Speaker 2: The bed. 210 00:15:51,264 --> 00:15:55,144 Speaker 4: In this song with a title that has multiple meanings, 211 00:15:55,584 --> 00:16:02,704 Speaker 4: there's another lyric Paul McCartney left open to interpretation to. 212 00:16:02,344 --> 00:16:13,184 Speaker 7: The sound of music, Mother Mary, God to me singing wisdom. 213 00:16:13,384 --> 00:16:17,744 Speaker 4: By calling his mother by her first name, Mary, McCartney 214 00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:22,304 Speaker 4: opens the door to a more sacred aspect of the song. 215 00:16:22,504 --> 00:16:25,944 Speaker 2: As I called her mother Mary rather than my mom Mary. 216 00:16:26,424 --> 00:16:30,704 Speaker 2: I think no I knew enough to know that. Okay, 217 00:16:30,904 --> 00:16:33,504 Speaker 2: we've got a sort of double meaning going here. I 218 00:16:33,504 --> 00:16:35,824 Speaker 2: think you're aware of that when you write these things. 219 00:16:36,464 --> 00:16:39,064 Speaker 2: But it was kind of good because it opens the 220 00:16:39,104 --> 00:16:44,504 Speaker 2: song to a religious crowd who want to take it 221 00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:48,264 Speaker 2: like that, so it gets performed my gospel. Yes. 222 00:17:06,664 --> 00:17:11,304 Speaker 4: Paul McCartney's father was Protestant and his mother Catholic, though 223 00:17:11,344 --> 00:17:15,544 Speaker 4: when it came to their children's schooling, the priority was 224 00:17:15,664 --> 00:17:16,824 Speaker 4: a good education. 225 00:17:17,224 --> 00:17:20,624 Speaker 9: The fact that she was a nurse had meant that 226 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:24,824 Speaker 9: she'd been called to a lot of schools, and she 227 00:17:24,984 --> 00:17:28,304 Speaker 9: thought the Prodestant school's education was better. 228 00:17:28,984 --> 00:17:31,784 Speaker 2: So she wanted the best education for her kids, and 229 00:17:31,864 --> 00:17:34,864 Speaker 2: no doubt my dad, being Protestant, would say, yeah, the 230 00:17:35,024 --> 00:17:48,464 Speaker 2: better and agree with them. The Catholic aspect, it was 231 00:17:48,584 --> 00:17:53,664 Speaker 2: really only one thing was that we'd been christened to 232 00:17:53,784 --> 00:17:57,344 Speaker 2: save our immortal souls, which I was always rather pleased with. 233 00:17:57,544 --> 00:18:00,784 Speaker 2: I'm glad my immortal soul is safe, and you know, 234 00:18:00,904 --> 00:18:01,744 Speaker 2: so I thank her. 235 00:18:01,584 --> 00:18:02,064 Speaker 1: For doing that. 236 00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:07,904 Speaker 4: Why let it be wasn't written with a particular religious angle, 237 00:18:08,384 --> 00:18:12,824 Speaker 4: It certainly can in a spiritual dimension. The words of 238 00:18:12,904 --> 00:18:18,024 Speaker 4: wisdom delivered by Mother Mary are repeated throughout the song 239 00:18:18,304 --> 00:18:21,664 Speaker 4: as the music swells, and they take on the quality 240 00:18:21,704 --> 00:18:27,104 Speaker 4: of a chant, a prayer, or another type of holy incantation. 241 00:18:34,704 --> 00:18:38,424 Speaker 3: Mother Mother Mary constantly. 242 00:18:51,984 --> 00:18:54,104 Speaker 2: You know someone said, what's your religion? I wouldn't just 243 00:18:54,104 --> 00:18:58,264 Speaker 2: sort of say Christian, but I take Christian, Buddhist, Jewish. 244 00:18:59,184 --> 00:19:01,224 Speaker 2: There are many great teachings in all. 245 00:19:01,184 --> 00:19:06,064 Speaker 4: The religion, in its spiritual ambiguity. Let it Be offers 246 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:10,624 Speaker 4: a sort of common grant and to break from the 247 00:19:10,744 --> 00:19:15,184 Speaker 4: conflicts of different belief systems. And at a time when 248 00:19:15,184 --> 00:19:19,784 Speaker 4: the divisions within the Beatles were becoming only more pronounced, 249 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:24,704 Speaker 4: the song called for and made possible a few moments 250 00:19:24,744 --> 00:19:26,944 Speaker 4: off togetherness because it is a. 251 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:27,584 Speaker 1: Song of hope. 252 00:19:27,744 --> 00:19:31,104 Speaker 2: Sure you know about all people are going to sort 253 00:19:31,104 --> 00:19:35,664 Speaker 2: of come together. You do think is there ever going 254 00:19:35,744 --> 00:19:38,944 Speaker 2: to be a time when people agree? And you know, 255 00:19:39,464 --> 00:19:44,584 Speaker 2: realistically you have to think, well, probably not, No, probably not. 256 00:19:44,824 --> 00:19:45,984 Speaker 1: But it's a great dream. 257 00:19:46,184 --> 00:19:51,064 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful dream, and the more you push towards it, 258 00:19:51,184 --> 00:19:52,824 Speaker 2: the more it may happen. 259 00:20:16,944 --> 00:20:21,064 Speaker 4: Let It Be released in nineteen seventy as the title 260 00:20:21,184 --> 00:20:30,984 Speaker 4: song from the Beatles' last album. In the next episode, 261 00:20:32,624 --> 00:20:36,664 Speaker 4: we go to the rolling hills of Scotland, where Paul's wife, 262 00:20:36,784 --> 00:20:40,624 Speaker 4: Lynda McCartney helped him to discover his love of nature 263 00:20:41,024 --> 00:20:46,384 Speaker 4: and the joys of fixing up their farm. McCartney a 264 00:20:46,464 --> 00:20:51,384 Speaker 4: life in Lyrics is a co production between iHeartMedia NPL 265 00:20:51,824 --> 00:20:53,624 Speaker 4: and Pushkin Industries.