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Speaker 1: On today's episode, what's the schedule have in store for

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Speaker 1: the ACC and Notre Dame Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 1: I'll that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've

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Speaker 1: heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Edo State?

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woof? And Dean and Tye welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid verbal, boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 1: ty Hildenbrant. His name over there is always the illustrious looking, wonderful, looking,

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Speaker 1: spry looking excited for this upcoming ACC football season. Dan Rubenstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I am thrilled to be talking about the All Caps

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Speaker 2: conference tie because I have a lot of All Caps thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: is Pitt good?

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Speaker 1: What's Louisville gonna look like with Jack Plumber.

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Speaker 2: In this schedule? Like I have Miami all capitals exclamation

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Speaker 2: question mark exclamation unc. So for me, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're going specifically back to the heyday of everybody seven

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Speaker 2: and five, six and six with some mat and four

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Speaker 2: thrown in, but I am I'm pretty jazzed up if

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Speaker 2: I can say the J word tie to talk about

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Speaker 2: ACC football and what I think we perceive to be,

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Speaker 2: especially because of some team's very specific schedules. I think

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Speaker 2: some wild swings from last year record wise, and I

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Speaker 2: would hope, so, yeah, I would hope. So if they're

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Speaker 2: doing it right, I would doing it right, then we

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Speaker 2: should expect wild swings, perhaps in a number of different directions.

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Speaker 2: But the schedule has me especially excited because there are

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Speaker 2: some runs on here, like some random team might have

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Speaker 2: be really tough or counterpoint, maybe not, And so I am.

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Speaker 2: I am excited to sort of take some swings ourselves,

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Speaker 2: and as as per usual, we're going with our person

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Speaker 2: receptions of teams in the late springtime in judging whether

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Speaker 2: or not these schedules are difficult, tricky, rough, easy, simple.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I think with UCLA, I'd love to

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Speaker 2: nibble on their schedules. Ear it seems so wonderful. So

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Speaker 2: I am I don't know again, jay Ward jazzed up.

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Speaker 1: Here jazzed up for America's Championship Conference. We're going through

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Speaker 1: all of the schedules in addition to Notre Dame, because

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is half pregnant with their acc pump ship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Notre Dame as well here

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Speaker 1: Forballers dot Com. Dan, play the music, let's do let's

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Speaker 1: get right in America's Championship Conference, knee, the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. We've got fourteen schedules

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Speaker 1: We need to get busy here if we want to

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Speaker 1: make it through all of these. Dan. In general, your

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Speaker 1: impressions of the ACC, I think you gave them a

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Speaker 1: little bit at the top over the course of our show. Again,

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Speaker 1: we started this thing back in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: We have had a lot of fun at the ACC's expense. Namely, hey,

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Speaker 1: has NC State played Wake yet? Or has NC State

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Speaker 1: lot of parody in that meady middle. Sure, and more

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Speaker 1: often than not over the span of our show, there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of parody throughout the conference. We haven't

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Speaker 1: throughout this year. We have tiers. We have very defined

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Speaker 1: these schedules, But as you alluded, at the very top

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Speaker 1: win totals. We're going based on what we saw a

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Speaker 1: different perception of the acc Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last year, I think I used that like the gust

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Speaker 2: I think it's quality in bulk, as you mentioned, which

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Speaker 2: All Costco Conference because it's quality in bulk. Not a

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Speaker 2: sponsor could be. I don't know if these sponsor podcasts,

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Speaker 2: but that's especially when you look at these teams schedule, Like, wait,

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Speaker 2: I guess that might make Duke the dollar fifty hot

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me? Man? You tell me you're the

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Speaker 1: one who got the uh all caps opinions about the ACC.

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Speaker 1: What makes sense for you? All right?

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's start with Clemson.

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Speaker 1: You want to start with Thompson.

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Speaker 2: I still think they're the headliner of the conference with

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Speaker 2: despite you know, big personalities and big improvements from from

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Speaker 1: Clemson's over unders nine and a half per vegas okay,

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Speaker 1: a pretty tough slate for Clemson. There's at least one

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Speaker 1: tough game each month with a marquee opponent. On this schedule.

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Speaker 1: a revenge spot for Clemson after losing that game thirty

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Speaker 1: there's a history there of weirdness, and in Week five,

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Speaker 1: Florida State game, to me is menacing. That's a menacing

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Speaker 1: spot that we should pay more attention to. Beyond that, though,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a tricky slate for Clemson. Yes?

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Speaker 2: No, maybe so, Yeah, I mean it's the heavy undercarriage.

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Speaker 2: The back half is especially dangerous. I mean at Duke

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Speaker 2: slow start against I think Georgia Tech. They eventually distanced

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Speaker 2: little bit closer. And that's week one and Dju obviously

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Speaker 2: But in terms of this schedule, I think it's nicely buffered.

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Speaker 2: at home. While I can sympathize, empathize whatever with your

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Speaker 2: tricky and dangerous, I'm not fully there. I think Clemson

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Speaker 2: complexion of the schedule leading up there. That back half though,

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Speaker 2: quality in bulk at Miami, at NC State, Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: right out of the by and that Fetichini Alfredo better

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Speaker 2: If Clemson is going to be a playoff team this year,

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Speaker 2: which I think is always their site in their sites

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Speaker 2: every year. Now, that's the type of program that they are.

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Speaker 2: They will absolutely in the back half of that schedule.

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Speaker 2: If all of these teams are approximately where we perceive

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Speaker 2: them to be, plus or minus whatever, they'll earn it.

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Speaker 2: They will absolutely earn it. Because of the back half

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Speaker 2: of this schedule quality and bulk. Clemson absolutely the headliner here.

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Speaker 1: Here the question that I was asking as it went

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Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be one of the better

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Speaker 1: opposing defenses scare me? Because if there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a question about Clemson this year, I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be on the offensive side with Kate Klubnick. And

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Speaker 1: how do they adjust now to the new Garrett Riley system.

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Speaker 1: Do they air it out more or is it quicker?

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Speaker 1: What does that look like? How many defenses on this

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Speaker 1: but there's not a certainly not North Carolina. There's not

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Speaker 2: it's not terrible. They have. Look, Clemson has the bye

430
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Speaker 2: week before Miami. That's not ideal, but otherwise NC State

431
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: has Clemson right before Miami. Correct Clemson right before Miami.

432
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: That's not the worst thing ever. And Florida State is

433
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: at Wake and at Pitt right before Miami. I don't

434
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: know if that's meaningful or not, but it's just different,

435
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 2: and I don't hate the situation. Now Virginia might once

436
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: again have a really good defense like they were able

437
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: to do last year and bounce back on that side

438
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: of the ball. And that's sort of like the thin

439
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: layer of the sandwich between the slices of Texas Toast.

440
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: That is that two by two, you know what I'm saying.

441
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Time that's not bad. It's not a bad visual. The

442
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: n C State, Florida State, UNC, Clemson, Texas Toast. I

443
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: still am not terribly worried about this schedule, Like even

444
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: on the road. I don't think NC State is a

445
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: complete team. I don't think Boston College is a complete team.

446
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: Louisville starting probably Jack Plumber, I think at quarterback, I

447
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: think right rejoining forces with Jeff Brahm. I getting Georgia

448
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 2: Tech out of the bye. I don't hate having what

449
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: should be a winnable game out of a bye, which

450
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: should be a pretty lackluster defense. After that, they're gonna

451
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: have to, you know, really outscore That could be a

452
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: shootout against North Carolina. But I don't hate this schedule.

453
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: I don't hate it either. I don't hate it.

454
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a decent enough runway to get

455
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: back to a ball, get back to promise. If you're

456
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: a Miami fan, if you're a recruit considering Miami, seeing

457
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 2: that growth, seeing that progress, I think there is a

458
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: runway for that this year, especially if the universe evens

459
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: out healthwise on offense, and the guys who were playmakers

460
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 2: on defense last year or even rotational playmakers on both

461
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: sides of the ball get a bigger role. I think

462
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Speaker 2: it's fine. I think it's totally fine. They also, who

463
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: do they miss? They miss Notre Dame? Yes, yep, I

464
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Speaker 2: think they miss Pitt. That could be meaningful. I think.

465
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

466
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: I think it's fine once. I mean, that's my headline.

467
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. There is a world in which catching

468
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: Texas A and M early is beneficial in the games

469
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: at home and they win. There's a world in which

470
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Speaker 1: Miami goes to North Carolina with a good defense and

471
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: is able to contain Drake Man. I don't know how

472
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: likely that is, but UNC still will not play defense

473
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Speaker 1: this year. It's just not what they do. There's a

474
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Speaker 1: world in which we gate Miami's undefeated at home against

475
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Speaker 1: Clint I don't think that's far fetched. I think that's

476
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Speaker 1: entirely doable. I don't know if it's likely, but if

477
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I said there's a twenty a thirty percent chance of

478
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: that happening, I don't think that's too tough a pill

479
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: to swallow. So we will find out a lot about

480
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: Miami in the first six weeks of this thing. We'll

481
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: find out exactly what they are and how they are

482
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Speaker 1: set up for that remaining stretch of As you said,

483
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Speaker 1: the bundles Clemson Virginia at home, UNC or NC State

484
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: excuse me, Florida State on the road. We'll find out.

485
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: But I feel say.

486
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Speaker 2: About this, they seem deeper on the line on offense,

487
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: there's promise on the defensive line. Youth wise. They brought

488
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: in I think two of the best tackles from the

489
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: high school ranks and then fortified it even more from

490
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: the portal. Like I just think they're better built to

491
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: win dumb games instead of losing dumb games.

492
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Speaker 1: Should we jump into Notre Dame here, it'd be a

493
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: perfect spot. You mentioned you mentioned Notre Dame not being

494
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: on the Miami sced Notre Dame's over unders eight and

495
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: a half this year. Okay, it's kind kind of interesting

496
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: to me. I have thoughts, as you might expect, think

497
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: out loud, b r Ed sheeran ty a couple thoughts.

498
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: This is a playoff caliber schedule. It is grown in

499
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: a lab almost to have pop without being overwhelming. Okay,

500
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a masterful almost opus from Jack Swarbrick. Now they

501
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: should hang this in the loover. It's perfect. I love it.

502
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Here's what makes it interesting even if you're not a

503
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan. There are three elite opponents on this

504
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: thing in the form of Ohio State, USC, and Clemson,

505
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: all three from different conferences. Only Clemson is on the road.

506
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: They're also spaced out very well, good buffers, no murderers row,

507
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: not even a wounders row here. So the way that

508
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: this shakes out, You've got Ohio State end of September,

509
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: You've got you USC mid October, and then Clemson on

510
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: the road early November. Good buffers, bumpers again. In between

511
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: those big games, there are a bunch of Power Five

512
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Bowl teams that we should talk about. In total, eight

513
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: Power Five opponents on the slate, based strictly on the

514
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: over unders. Vegas has seven of them in a bowl

515
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: game and then another one knocking on the door. There

516
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: could be more, depending on how you feel about Navy

517
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: in Central Michigan. But that seems like that's quality in

518
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: bulk in Ireland.

519
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: Right. Maybe they're playing in week zero.

520
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are. There are definitely some trappy spots here

521
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: that could get them. I'm looking at Duke after the

522
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. I'm looking at Louisville before USC. I'm

523
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: looking especially at pitt after a bye and before Clemson.

524
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: Notre Name is not immune to these trap spots. In fact,

525
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: let's play it. They've got some traps that they got

526
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: to navigate here. But I really like the way this

527
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: sets up. It's there for him, It's all there for him.

528
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: The over under is basically saying Vegas expects Notre Dame's

529
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: going to lose to Ohio State, USC and Clemson, and

530
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: provided they win the other games, they will hit that

531
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: over That's exactly what they're saying with this eight and

532
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: a half over under. I think it's reasonable. I think

533
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: they can win one, if not more of those games

534
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: against USC, Ohio State, and Clemson. I'm not going to

535
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: take that to the bank. I just feel like the

536
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: over under is appropriately set here. So I like the

537
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: way that Notre Dame schedule is set up. I think

538
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: it is there for them if they have aspirations to

539
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: go a little bit, a little bit higher with this

540
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: thing than they did a year ago. I'm not sure

541
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: entirely how I feel about the team, because there's a

542
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: fair amount of new that we'll discuss when we get

543
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: to previews. But in terms of the schedule, you could

544
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: not ask for more. If you're Notre Dame. You've got

545
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: enough amo here to be part of the national conversation.

546
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: You've got it's spaced out in a really, really responsible way.

547
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: And more importantly, from the Notre Dame fans perspective, it

548
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: is very difficult, albeit impossible, for any of the naysayers

549
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: out there to come away saying Notre Dame hasn't played anybody,

550
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: because this thing is chock full of good opponents and

551
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: bowl opponents.

552
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: So acc wise, it's NC State, Duke, Louisville, Pitt, Clemson,

553
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Wake Correct. How many is that six teams?

554
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: NC State, Duke, Louisville, Pitt, Clemson, Lake Forest.

555
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: That's six six. Okay, that's pretty good. I just had

556
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: a surge of energy of voltage running through me noticing

557
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame Ohio State is the same weekend.

558
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: As Florida State Clemson.

559
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: Florida State Clemson also low key at pit UNC is

560
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: always super fun. That's a nice, acc ish weekend because

561
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: obviously Notre Dame in Ohio State don't fill that role.

562
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: But I just you know, when you start sorting things

563
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: out schedule wise and notice that that's very exciting. Yeah,

564
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is in a pretty good spot. And not

565
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: getting Florida State this year, that's nice. Uh we just

566
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: mentioned not having Miami. We'll see what that if that

567
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: has any meaning at all. But no, it's a good schedule.

568
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: It's a tough road schedule. And I don't remember the

569
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: home road splits last year for Notre Dame and how

570
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: the Irish were on the road. But NC State duke

571
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: in that very specific spot after Ohio State, followed by

572
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: Louisville with two in a row. And I'm not terribly

573
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: worried about Louisville right now. But Clemson on the road Sandwich,

574
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: they have two buys in there. That's when they got

575
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: them because they're playing week zero. Look at Stanford. It's

576
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: not what is whatever, that's not going to be terribly difficult.

577
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: But I don't know that run of games has its

578
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: own different degrees of danger.

579
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, I mean they're like I said, there

580
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: are land mines here. There are definitely land mines here

581
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: that I think we'd be foolish to not look at

582
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, that one could be tricky. This one

583
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: could be tricky, right, you know, in terms of home

584
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: road splits, though, I still feel better about this year

585
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: than I did a year ago when they were at

586
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State to open up the season at they had Yeah,

587
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: they were at SC they had to go to UNC,

588
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: that was before we knew what we had out of

589
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Drake May. But that was still a very very close game,

590
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: even had to go to Syracuse. You know, I just

591
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: feel better about it this year neutral Syche game in

592
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Vegas against BYU that was sort of closed for a while, right,

593
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: So I feel okay about the schedule. I think it's

594
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: appropriately difficult and as I said, grown in a lab

595
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: to be playoff worthy without being overwhelming.

596
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: What's the opposite of a sandwich if there are two

597
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: buys between pitt and Clemson. Clemson on the road.

598
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: Is it a patty?

599
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: Well? Is it like the double down? Is like the

600
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: KFC double down where you have like that's still on

601
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: a sandwich, isn't it? No, that's the sandwich. So this

602
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: is like an Atkins situation where you're just ordering the meat.

603
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: There's no buns. So they've got an ad in bacon.

604
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: So that's an eggs and bacon type of schedule for no.

605
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Right, they've got of bacon, egg and cheese or I

606
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: guess just yeah, eggs and bacon with no English muffin

607
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: with no nothing. Okay, the Atkins schedule. They've got an

608
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: Atkins schedule. They've got that low carb schedule.

609
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I love this.

610
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Can we go to my favorite schedule? Oh? Yeah, just

611
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: because it's Bunkers and I guess it's gumpy in its

612
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: own way. Can we talk about the Duke Blue Devils

613
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: and do it not last?

614
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh? My god?

615
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Probably traditionally did?

616
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Can I? Why don't you go first? I have a

617
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: personal story that I want to share about this Duke

618
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: schedule what it reminded me of. But Duke's over under

619
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: six and a half. Why don't you give me your

620
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: thoughts first? Because I have many?

621
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: It's the most solid verbal first half schedule or I

622
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: guess pre buy schedule that they could possibly construct. We

623
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: come up with the term clemsoning way back when Clemson

624
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: opens it. My dad went to Lafayette. Lafayette week two.

625
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Northwestern is seven minutes away from me. It's very close

626
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: to where I am right now. Most of my early

627
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: college basketball memories are tied to either Duke or Yukon

628
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: Basketball and Jim Calhoun not a dime and coach k

629
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: and that game is at Yukon Yukon Bowl team.

630
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: So also he gets sexier than Etzel, a big part

631
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: of our early formative years here on the verbal.

632
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: Of course, what do you know about Jordan Toddman and

633
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: Joe moorehead coming together?

634
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: I love the football, I love it.

635
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out whatever Khalid Alamine and Cherokee Parks

636
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: and then Notre Dame. And so it's Clemson and Notre

637
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: Dame if we're going to talk about the actual games

638
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: both in Durham, Yes, correct, And that's an opener for

639
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Clemson and it's post Ohio State for Notre Dame. So

640
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: Duke is finding himselves in a bit of a gumpy

641
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: situation on the onset and then if there's nothing else

642
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: that described Forrest Gump other than his unique person as,

643
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: he's a traveler. He's all over the place. He's at

644
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: the White House, he's running across the country, he's in Alabama,

645
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: he's serving overseas in Vietnam. Four out of five games

646
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: on the road post Fediicini carbo load during the bye week,

647
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: which begins with NC State, should be quality in bulk

648
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: beginning of at Florida State at Louisville Wake on Thursday

649
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: at North Carolina at Virginia, who again should have a

650
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: decent enough defense if nothing else, and then pit and

651
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: so this is just a run of if Duke is

652
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: a bowl team, if they're a seven win team, if

653
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: they're an eight win team, if Riley Leonard takes the

654
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: next step, if Mike Elko has this defense taking the

655
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: next step, Holy hell, will they be an amazing TV

656
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: show this year. It's the quietest, it's a quiet place.

657
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Tie it's all coming together. Duke football schedule is so fascinating.

658
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to play this more fight, drank less

659
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: water than I have in my entire life. It's my favorite.

660
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites too. If we are talking

661
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: about car bloating. Yeah, for the schedule ahead, Duke should

662
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: start carbo loading on July fourth, Just start early, get

663
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: it in now. This schedule is murder but very interesting.

664
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Very the story that I wanted to share this is

665
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: what this reminded me of when I was in I

666
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: guess it'd be my late twenties living in the apartment

667
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: when all my friends, all their friends were also living

668
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: in apartments, before everybody was married off and we had

669
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: fewer responsibilities. We obviously had the monster online and caa dynasty.

670
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: We would play and we know we would arrange games

671
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: at nine pm or ten thirty pm whenever it made sense.

672
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: And there was one instance in particular where a guy

673
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: in the league who typically did not play well at all,

674
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: had a banger of a season and found himself in

675
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: the national Championship. He didn't play anybody, but he found

676
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: himself in the National Championship and I think he lost,

677
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: but whatever, it was kind of like a big moment

678
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: for this guy that he finally reached the mountain top

679
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: in a sense. And then the next season, when it

680
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: came time to schedule out his games, we gave up

681
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: all the hard teams get far the road, prove yourself again.

682
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: And after he complained about our scheduling committee's integrity, of

683
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: course there was neither a committee nor any integrity here.

684
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: But after he complained, the response that he got from

685
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the people running the league a different friend was quote,

686
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: welcome to the dynasty. Welcome to the dynasty. In as

687
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: dismissive a tone as you could possibly imagine. Welcome, yeah,

688
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: to the dynasty. I'd like to dust off that line

689
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: for the Duke Blue Devils this year. Welcome, Welcome to

690
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: the dynasty. Guys. You had a good run last year.

691
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: You were a cute story with a new coach and

692
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: a fun quarterback story. But welcome, Welcome to America's Championship Conference. Now, Dan,

693
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: welcome to ECC football. After Week six when you go

694
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: on by suddenly you got to play all these games

695
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: on the road. We're really going to find out what

696
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: they're made of. I'm excited. It should be a good

697
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: TV show, as he said, but it will be a

698
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: tester for sure.

699
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: Seventy percent last year against the spread plus fifteen turnover margin,

700
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: so that's going to come back down to earth. That's

701
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: just not a thing A sustainable metric again, that said,

702
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: Duke may well be the one who knocks right. Duke

703
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: might be in a better position right now to win

704
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: these games. Then you know there's now continuity where a

705
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: lot of these teams don't have continuity. I don't have

706
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: their the roster turnover specifics at the tips of my fingers,

707
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: but man, I'm gonna watch. I'll say right now, if

708
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: they show anywhere near the same quality that they showed

709
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: last year, I'm gonna watch Moreduke football than I probably

710
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: ever have in my entire life this fall.

711
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I think that's fine, by the way, Duke, in case

712
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: you're wondering, in terms of returning production, top ten in

713
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: the nation on offense, not doing as well on the

714
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, but overall thirty third of

715
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the country.

716
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm kind of running away with the Mark Kids' school

717
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: title right now. Yeah, with where Northwestern and Stanford and

718
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: cal and Vanderbilt are, I mean, we'll see, we'll get

719
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: We'll get to Vanderbilt preview time. They showed some life

720
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: last year. But good one, Good on, Duke.

721
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: I love this. I love that we called out to

722
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: Should we talk about wake Forest while we're talking about

723
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: tough schedules? Interesting schedules.

724
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Can we add Maryland to this preview just for s's

725
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: and g's just because we want to?

726
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

727
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I know we already did that with the Big Ten,

728
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: but I don't know. It just feels right.

729
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Wake Forests over under five and a half schedule is

730
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: really hard, it is. The road games in particular are

731
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: just brutal. Even the home games could be losses. Five

732
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: and a half to me, puts a lot of trust

733
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: in the Dave class in experience post Sam Hartman, you

734
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: mentioned Mitch Griffiths before. Are you a Griffiths believer? Dan?

735
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I mean threw two passes

736
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, all right, more of a Chandler Morris

737
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: type Dan, Okay, got that kind of build to him.

738
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

739
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: Road games at ODU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Duke, Notre Dame

740
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: in Syracuse, that's not easy. That is not easy. Home

741
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: games against Elon on Thursday, Week one, Vandy, Georgia Tech,

742
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Pitt Florida State, n C State. So the home road

743
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: splits aren't great. I don't know what to make of

744
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: wake Forest this season. My sense is that I would

745
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: go under because there's a lot of new However, Dave

746
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Clawson has been a pretty consistent coach, and as you said,

747
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: the offense, the slow mesh, elements of the way that

748
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: they built this thing are very plug and play. So

749
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: it is a question of I think, how much do

750
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: you believe in Dave Clawson.

751
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: So Wake is the like thin layer of meat in

752
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: the two by two sandwich, the Texas Texas toast sandwich

753
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: for Duke. So it's at Florida State, at Louisville, and

754
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: then at UNC at Virginia. The first four seem fine.

755
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 2: I mean, Odiu whatever you believe. The Honars just beat

756
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: acc team. So I guess Ricky Ronnie's got a nice

757
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: situation going for him, because that's adable dominion. I want

758
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: to say, one of these teams, is it Pitt one

759
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: of them has, Yeah, Pitt has Wake right before Notre Dame,

760
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: so there's maybe a look ahead spot there.

761
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: This is not a great schedule. It's just it's hard.

762
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: It's really hard to see them getting the six in my.

763
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: View, they maybe it's a letdown spot for it's NC

764
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: State has Clemson in Miami right before they travel to Wake,

765
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: so maybe situationally in the back half, don't I don't know.

766
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has a buy right before Wake, which is

767
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: not ideal for the Deeks at It's tough to find seven,

768
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: it really is.

769
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: It's tough to find seven. Yeah, you mentioned NC State

770
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: a lot. Let's let's move to n C State place.

771
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: NC State's over under a six and a half. Do

772
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: you like NC State this season? I know we haven't

773
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: done the preview and we have more work to do

774
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: to form a more informed opinion, but I.

775
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: Mean, it's death taxes eight and a half wins, right

776
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: kind of is?

777
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm just not I'm not enamored with him this season.

778
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: I think it's possible that bringing over Brandon Armstrong was

779
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: a really good move, but I am worried in looking

780
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: at the rest of the team that he has built

781
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: a better version of Virginia and not a better version

782
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: of NC State, if that makes sense.

783
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's what I will say about NC State

784
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: in the affirmative. The road splits are awesome.

785
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful, They're absolutely beautiful.

786
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 2: And it's at Yukon, at Virginia, at Duke at Wake,

787
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: at Virginia Tech. Now, this again puts it to the test.

788
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Would you rather have your winnable games at home or

789
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: on the road. Right, it's going to be tougher anyway

790
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: on the road, so a winnable game becomes less so

791
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: away from home. But if we're talking about an NC

792
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: State team that doesn't measure itself against you know, Bowl eligibility,

793
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: it's kind of a schedule I'm happy with. If Armstrong

794
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: works out, if the defense continues a pace, I'm to

795
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: get noted Dame early. So maybe there's still a little

796
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: growing pains for Sam Hartman and new offense and new

797
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator.

798
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: That could be the five interception game. Man.

799
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: It could also be the five interception game, of course,

800
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: and then otherwise it's kind of buffered for most of

801
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: the way. Clemson to Miami back to back, but they're

802
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: both Carter Finley, right, Yeah, I don't know. I know

803
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: you're not enamored. But if if January Tie came and

804
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: said here's the deal Hill to Brandt nine and three,

805
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: of course, that's how you would say. You would say

806
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: all right, or at least I would say future Tie,

807
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm very much aligned. I see it. So again, haven't

808
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: gone deep into you know, the transfer ins and outs

809
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but in terms of what we've

810
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: seen lately from NC State in terms of what how

811
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: this schedule just physically shapes up goodbye me.

812
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: The home road splits are beautiful, and having Notre Dame Louisville, Clemson, Miami,

813
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: and North Carolina at home, I think what you would

814
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: want if you're an NC State fan. It sets up

815
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: about as well as you could well, as well as

816
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: you could expect given the opponents that are on this thing.

817
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: There are four or five obvious wins they'll need to

818
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: steal one or two the rest of the way to

819
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: get to a bowl game. And again, I'm not fully

820
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: enamored with this team where it's at. I'm not sure

821
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: if I fully buy into whatever they're trying to build

822
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: the season. Just in the limited research that I've done.

823
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: We have more work left to do. I preface that

824
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: with my nci State comments. But six and a half

825
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: over under to me, feels like it's doable given the schedule.

826
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I like the way that the sets up for them.

827
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, offense needs to get a lot better. The defense

828
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: last year was just solid. I mean, I think they

829
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: were especially good against the run. They kind of they

830
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: just have the feel of and I think the schedule

831
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: lines up nicely for them to have the feel of

832
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: like a little bit of a poor man's Utah. Yeah,

833
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: where they're not going to be electric on offense.

834
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more.

835
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: They've had solid contributors at quarterback, to say the least.

836
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: They've had some star power on defense lately. And if

837
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: you are a team with an obvious flaw, there's a

838
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: good chance you're gonna lose. NC State And so they're

839
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: just kind of that poor man's The coach has been

840
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: around now for an extended period of time. I see

841
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: we talk about sister cities as sister programs right now,

842
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: NC State in Utah, for whatever it's worth, that's where

843
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: my dumb brain goes.

844
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Let's stay in the great state of North Carolina. Talk

845
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: about North Carolina UNC Okay, eight and a half over under.

846
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: There is exactly one offense on the schedule that would

847
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: scare me. And then you realize, Dan, that this is

848
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: also a defense that can make any opposing offense scary.

849
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: So that kind of thought experiment goes out the window.

850
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: This has been the cure for the common offense North

851
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: Carolina for a couple of years running. Now open up

852
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: the year in Charlotte Neutral Cider against South Carolina and

853
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: what should be I think a tough game app State

854
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota follow at home. They close out the month of

855
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: September at pitt before a bye week going into October

856
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: at Syracuse, Miami in Virginia all at home. They go

857
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: to Georgia Tech and then come back home against the

858
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: Campbell Fighting Campbells, and to close out the season it

859
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: is home against Duke at Clemson at North Carolina State,

860
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: So tough stretch to close this thing out. It does

861
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: not feel like there are enough away games on this thing,

862
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and there are a large swaths of games that are

863
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: at home, which I like, those are all very winnable games.

864
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: They can beat Syrakese at home, they can beat Miami

865
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: in Virginia and Campbell and Duke and Apstate Minnesota at home.

866
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: So in that sense, it's set up pretty well to

867
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: try and get to that nine win number and hit

868
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: that over. The obvious questions are what about the games

869
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: that aren't at home? What about the South Carolina game,

870
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: the Pick game, Clemson, NC State, even Georgia Tech, depending

871
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: on how you feel about the Rambley reck. So my

872
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: sense here is that this is a very workable schedule

873
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: for UNC. Drake may should have his way with a

874
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: number of these defenses. I feel good about where you

875
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: and s He's at. The ultimate question is are they

876
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna play defense and to what degree will that throttle

877
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: how many wins they can get?

878
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: You know how, I don't play fantasy football anymore, TI,

879
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: but you know how, there was that line of thinking

880
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: where you just stream in whichever defense is playing, you

881
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: know whatever, like catastrophically bad offense is on is you know,

882
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: is the NFL? He's ever playing Jacksonville right there, Like

883
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: that's the defense I'm trading for. I'm picking up from

884
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: waivers whatever. If you were to play fantasy college football,

885
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: take whichever quarterback is playing North Carolina. This team finished

886
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: as arguably the worst pass rushing team in the country

887
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: last year. They just could not get to the quarterback.

888
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: And so you look at this, it's like Calliac Manus

889
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: at Minnesota.

890
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: Is going to look He's gonna look like Tom Brady

891
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: in Week three.

892
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: Could be a Heisman candidate. After the North Carolina game, you.

893
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: Laugh, filed your COVID at home against IMC and again

894
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: they lost a bunch of guys in their secondary as

895
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: well to the poort.

896
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Like it's not great right now? At North Carolina and

897
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: Chapel Hill defensively. So Drake May is gonna have to somehow,

898
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: like he's gonna be exhausted, Like they need to pre

899
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: order oxygen right now for how much Drake May is

900
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna have to do for this team to win games.

901
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: This is fifty one.

902
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: This is a rich Man's Nick Foles situation from when

903
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: he was back at at Arizona.

904
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: Arizona.

905
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could be playing the losing efforts sound a

906
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: couple times for Drake May this year because I think

907
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: they will go as far as he can take them.

908
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: I do not have faith in the defense at all.

909
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: With an average defense, forget average with a disappointing defense,

910
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: but not catastrophically bad defense. If you look at the schedule,

911
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: like oh, ten to one hundred percent on the table

912
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: before those final two.

913
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean, if you put North Carolina's offense

914
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: in Iowa's defense together, do they beat Georgia for the

915
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: national championship?

916
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: Not quite? But because I'm just I don't know. I

917
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 2: don't love North Carolina's offensive line too. But South Carolina

918
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: toss up. App State was a toss up last year.

919
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: Minnesota tough, not great, but tough.

920
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: I think they should be tough.

921
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, at Pitt not easy. That game's always weird. Syracuse

922
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Miami Virginia at home again if North Carolina has a

923
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: disappointing defense, those games are fine. At Georgia Tech fine,

924
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Campbell Duke at home, fine, it's a rivalry game you

925
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: got through out those records. And then at Clemson at

926
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: NC State will be difficult. But to me, it's the

927
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: schedule almost doesn't matter with North Carolina. Their post schedules

928
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: just like Iowa their post schedule. They are what do

929
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: we say, ninth grade English evaluation and man verse self. Yeah,

930
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: that's all North Carolina is right now. And because they

931
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: have such an advantage at quarterback against everybody on their schedule,

932
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 2: literally everybody has a clearly worse quarterback than North Carolina does,

933
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: and that mac Brown couldn't surround him or couldn't give

934
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: him a defense to hold up its end of the

935
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: bargain is one of the bigger recent failures in college

936
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: football that I don't think we talk about enough. So

937
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: I uh, yeah, it doesn't matter who North Carolina plays,

938
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: It just doesn't.

939
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Pitt's over under his six and a half good home slate.

940
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: If you're a pit fan. You've got Sincy, You've got

941
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Louisville, Florida State, Boston College. I guess to

942
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: close things out, they also play the Backyard Brawl in Morgantown.

943
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: They have to go to Blacksburg, have to go to

944
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. So that's not to say this is an

945
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: easy slate by any stretch for the Pitt Panthers. But Pitt,

946
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: if nothing more, has been a consistent program under Pat Nardouzi.

947
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: We're not necessarily talking about catastrophic offensive situations. The defense

948
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: has certainly carried the water in the Nardouzi era, and

949
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: we've seen flashes when when he has a quarterback or

950
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: when he can construct an offense. That's when Pitt tends

951
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: to pop off a little bit. But whether or not

952
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: we'll get that this year with Phil Jerkovic remains to

953
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: be seen. They've got a schedule here to be I

954
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: think taken very seriously, this strikes me as a kind

955
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: of team that ends up going six and six, seven

956
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: and five and then gets to Bowl season and just

957
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: shreds somebody from the SEC or from the Big twelve.

958
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: It's that kind of team. I think they could be

959
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: very good and because it is a tough schedule. In

960
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: my view, they come away from this thing look looking

961
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: worse than they actually are because of their record. As

962
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: long as Pitt doesn't do anything terribly and if they

963
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: can find a thing to do super well, which they

964
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: generally do, I.

965
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Think it's schedules fine. Really, honestly think the schedule's fine. Look,

966
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: West Virginia is a lot to ask for on the

967
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: road in like this renewed rivalry situation. I'm just not full. Like,

968
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: does the West Virginia passing attacks scare you any level

969
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: right now?

970
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: It just situationally, It's kind of weird to me the

971
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: way this thing shakes out, Like, Okay, they are almost

972
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: two stretches of fed at Chini Alfredo for it. You've

973
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: got sincey week two, which I don't know what to expect.

974
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Since Saderfield, since like I I don't.

975
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: Know Sadderfield, since he could be a thing at home, yeah,

976
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: but since he still has got talent on that roster,

977
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: since he at West Virginia home against North Carolina on

978
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: the road at Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech still a tough

979
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: place to play, still plays defense. Mm hmm, all right,

980
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: those are that's an interesting four game stretch, and then

981
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: after their bye week, they've got a stretch where they

982
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: go two way two Notre Dame home against Florida State,

983
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: neutral cider against Syracuse. I can see that being tricky

984
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: for Pitt.

985
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So, but if we're talking about the like a

986
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: collective average of what Pitt has been now, I don't

987
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: love that they're going to like the one off quarterback

988
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: model these past couple of years, because when they have

989
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: had good quarterback play, it's guys that have developed internally,

990
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: and you know Nate Peterman and Kenny Pickett. But I

991
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: don't know, there's just like a lot of new faces

992
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: on this schedule we talked about with Clemson, all of

993
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: the experienced quarterbacks. They're playing Cincinnati, West Virginia, New Virginia Tech.

994
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: We'll see Louisville, New Wake, New Notre Dame. New BC

995
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: is going to be I guess kind of new because

996
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: it's I mean, Emit Moore had played last year, but

997
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: it was filder Kovic there last year, and Duke obviously

998
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: has a promising young quarterback that has experienced. But I

999
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: don't know, I think Pitt's in an advantageous spot and

1000
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: it's you know, somehow filedder Kovic. They have a thirty

1001
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: seven year old red shirt sophomore whatever been there since

1002
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight in college football. That is so, I

1003
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 2: don't know I this is. I don't think it's as

1004
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: pronounced as unc and Iowa as man verse self. But

1005
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. Just do like three things relatively well

1006
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: on the win eight or nine games.

1007
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Are you in on Pitt just as a program?

1008
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm in on paton ardoozy in the same way you are,

1009
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: because he has no filter. Who did he I think

1010
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: he just went after Dion.

1011
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see if he went after Dan. I know

1012
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: he previously has gone after the likes of Lincoln Hiley.

1013
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I'm not in on with Pitt

1014
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: is the ceiling is so clear that I worry that

1015
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: he's a little bit too stubborn on offense sometimes. But

1016
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Pat Nardozzi is not alone in being

1017
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: unable to consistently figure out quarterback, and so I think

1018
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: there is something about going back to what is it

1019
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: Frank Signetti like, I don't love that. I'd like to,

1020
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, take a little bit more chances with an

1021
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator higher I'm kind of a believer and that

1022
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: coaches can be in and out of primes, and so

1023
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: that's what worries me. But I still think he has

1024
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: a really good eye for defensive talents, and I think

1025
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: he teaches his coach as well. I think the coaches

1026
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: teach defense really well, and it's just that final puzzle

1027
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: piece of offensive aggression and quarterback. So I'm into Pitt.

1028
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to maintain a level of quality

1029
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: over time, so what he's done is better than most.

1030
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: That's something Virginia Tech is at four and a half, Dan,

1031
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: if we could talk a little bit about the Virginia

1032
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: Tech schedule. Toughest game is on the road Week six

1033
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: against Florida State. They are not winning that game. But

1034
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: of the remaining eleven, I'm going to list them out.

1035
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: I want you to count with the count with me.

1036
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: Which of them are definite losses? Okay, okay, Week one

1037
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: old dominion loss last year, but.

1038
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: Definitely that's just death Texas Ody, who's beating Virginia Tech.

1039
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so you're counting that as a loss?

1040
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I'm no, not a definite loss.

1041
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: Definite losses? All right? So we can't count that one.

1042
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1043
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: Week two against Purdue at home, not.

1044
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: A definite loss. Week three at Rutgers, not a definite loss.

1045
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Week four at Marshall. Not a definite loss, though you

1046
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: might have some scar tissue that would indicate otherwise.

1047
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I do a scar tissue, but I would agree, not

1048
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: a definite loss. Week five home against Pitt H.

1049
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: I would pencil that in as an almost definite loss,

1050
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: but not definite.

1051
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: All right, we'll count that as one. Week six at

1052
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Florida State. I'll count that one.

1053
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: Pitt has that. It's a week after the West Virginia

1054
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: North Carolina, so good situational spot for the Hokies.

1055
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Week seven home against Wake.

1056
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: Not a definite loss.

1057
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: Week Gates the buye can't count that one either. Week nine,

1058
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night or in Blacksburg home against Syracuse.

1059
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: I guess. Not a definite loss.

1060
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: Week ten at Louisville Jack Plumber, Louisville, Louisville.

1061
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: It's at Louisville. Yeah, I guess. Not a definite loss.

1062
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: Week eleven at Boston College.

1063
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Not a definite loss.

1064
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: Week twelve home against NC State. I'll go as far

1065
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: as saying, okay, sure, we'll count that one. Finally close

1066
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: things out. Let me take this music down here. Rivalry, Yeah, Rivalry,

1067
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: Commonwealth Cup against Virginia on the road.

1068
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: Definite definite loss.

1069
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: That's three. I got the three definite losses that are

1070
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: over under his four and a half. Now, a lot's

1071
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: still got to go right in order for them to

1072
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: get the five.

1073
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: You need a roster to win games.

1074
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: You're a roster to win games. I'm not enamored with

1075
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: the Grant Wells experienced, Ricky almost said Ricky Ronnie, I

1076
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: meant Brent Priye kind of one and the same, but

1077
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: needs to such disrespects. Needs to get that roster firing,

1078
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: at least on the offensive side of things. Defense was

1079
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: okay last year. So it's a lot between now and then.

1080
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: But if you're looking at this thing the way I'm

1081
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: looking at it, A, it's beautiful. B. There aren't a

1082
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: whole lot of losses that I'm going to take to

1083
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: the bank at this stage in you know, late May,

1084
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: early June. I think I'm in on the over for

1085
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech at four and a half.

1086
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, my exercise of looking at quarterbacks,

1087
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: that's a pretty ideal situation for them, And can I

1088
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: make a crazy esoteric like two thousand and three reference.

1089
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for.

1090
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: The Virginia Tech schedule is my AFI schedule of the

1091
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: Sea the ACC because they do nothing but miss murder.

1092
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: That's not miss murder, eh, miss murder. They do nothing

1093
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: the no Notre Dame, no Clemson, no Miami, no North Carolina.

1094
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: I believe. So they missed the best quarterback in the conference.

1095
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: Like it's miss murder. They're missing murder. And that's great.

1096
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: That's great for a year two bounce back hope. Now,

1097
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 2: what you've done in playing that music and saying definite loss,

1098
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: definite loss, definite loss, is you have filled Hoky fans

1099
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: with an inordinate amount of hope that is fully undeserved.

1100
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going nine and three.

1101
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: I know, but the way you're positioning this is like, hey,

1102
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech might be a super bad six and sixteen,

1103
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: and I think that's too much hope at this moment.

1104
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: We'll see. I don't know. You just you need a

1105
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: quarterback and you need an identity. And I still think

1106
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: they're searching. But no, I what you did was not wrong,

1107
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: but it was a little bit too fluffy. A little

1108
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: bit too fluffy, Miss Murder go afi Virginia, their rival

1109
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: three and a half over under. Last year, we expected

1110
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: Virginia's offense to improve. The defense actually is what improved.

1111
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: The offense was still pretty bad. And this year Brennan

1112
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: Armstrong is gone, which means it's either a Jay Wolfock

1113
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: or a Tony Musket led Virginia Cavaliers offense. If the

1114
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: Virginia Cavaliers do not pick the guy named Musket to

1115
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: be the starting quarterback.

1116
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're doing here, but that's

1117
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: in aside. We can discuss when the time is right.

1118
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: This looks like a tough schedule to be. They opened

1119
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: the year quote unquote neutral site game in Nashville against Tennessee.

1120
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: They come back home to play James Madison, who's really good.

1121
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: Last year they're at Maryland, NC State at Boston College.

1122
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: They got a game in there against Bill and mary

1123
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: at North Carolina at Miami, Georgia Tech at Louisville Duke,

1124
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech closed this thing out. This is a

1125
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: tough slate. I don't know how they're getting a four

1126
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: wins with this.

1127
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not ideal, especially early on with Virginia, they

1128
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: get some of the winnables at home, and that's at

1129
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: least nice if you're going to find it that I

1130
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: don't know who jam you is sandwich with. It's it's

1131
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: weird that we have to ask that question with where

1132
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Virginia's offense was last year. So I don't know. You

1133
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: can look up James Madison schedule and who they have

1134
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: before and after Virginia because again, if we're searching for

1135
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: home wins yet Bill and Mary Georgia Tech, Duke, Virginia Tech,

1136
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: and then if they're going to steal something, I don't know,

1137
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: man they have. So Virginia is that sandwich. I mentioned

1138
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: Virginia by two sandwich Virginia for James madis Miami. Yeah,

1139
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: is sort of the the Bisenberger.

1140
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh tell me how sandwich between Bucknell and Troy Okay.

1141
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 2: I like it. It's it's tough. So like, look the actual

1142
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: winnable games, if all is on a neutral site, maybe

1143
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: JMU depending because they're starting over it. I think Centaius

1144
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: and Tio's gone right yeah, yeah, yeah, So starting over

1145
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: at quarterback, Maryland's gonna be real tough on the road,

1146
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: NC State, tough at BC. Bill and Mary could they

1147
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: steal Who does North Carolina have? North Carolina has Miami

1148
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: right before Virginia. Okay, that's something North Carolina I mentioned,

1149
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: has Miami before.

1150
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: I just.

1151
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech has UNC and Clemson sandwiching it, So that's

1152
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: advantageous for the Who's Louisville has Virginia Tech and Miami

1153
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: sandwiching So it's a look ahead spot potentially for Louisville

1154
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: with Virginia. So situationally, they're not in the worst spot ever.

1155
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: But I don't know, whatever, musket or wolf folk, whatever,

1156
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: they gotta be pretty good. So Virginia has to be

1157
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: a WHOOPI cushion, right, They just got to be able

1158
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: to slide into those situations to destroy and confused.

1159
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Louisville, the oddist schedule in the country. Okay,

1160
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: this is an extremely bizarre setup. I'm sure it's happened before.

1161
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention to call

1162
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: it out before. Yeah, Louisville is listed as having five

1163
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: road games, but two of them are at neutral sites.

1164
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: They've got Georgia Tech in Atlanta on a Friday night.

1165
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: They've got Indiana in the Lucas Oil Stadium complex in Indianapolis.

1166
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: So five road games listed, two that are neutral siders,

1167
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: technically only three true road games. They've also got four

1168
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: games on either a Thursday or a Friday, which is wild.

1169
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: Nobody else in the ACC. I know they play some

1170
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday games. Nobody else in the ACC is

1171
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: that many that are not on Saturday. So the Georgia

1172
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: Tech game, the aforementioned Tech game, is on a Friday.

1173
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: They've also got NC State on the road at NC

1174
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: State on a Friday. They play Virginia later in the

1175
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: year on a Thursday, and Week two actually I missed

1176
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: this one on the way through Murray State Racers. Yeah,

1177
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: so that none of that necessarily gives us any taille

1178
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: as to how this team is going to do. But

1179
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: there's just a weirdness quotient to Louisville, a weirdness quotient

1180
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: that I don't think we can overlook. Plus they're bringing

1181
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: in the new coach. He's got deep Louisville ties. If

1182
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: you track what he did at Purdue Perdue was there

1183
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: was a reason we called him the spoiler makers. They

1184
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: were plucky, they found a way to be in games.

1185
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: This over under here is seven and a half, which

1186
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: does require a little bit of a leap of faith

1187
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: if you're not in on Jack Plumber. Dan, Yeah, how

1188
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: do you How do you feel about this schedule? Evan

1189
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: Conley still at Louisville. That's totally true. I believe, I

1190
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: think so right. I don't know why I'm going down

1191
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: this path, but is Evan Conley still at Louisville. We

1192
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: need what we need to do, and we talked.

1193
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: About hold on it. I'm now saying Evan Conley will

1194
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: not sign with app State. I just looked at a

1195
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: practice report. I don't know what's going on. I've just

1196
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: heard that name forever. Okay, Sorry, I get easily distracted.

1197
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm like a cat. Sorry.

1198
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: We do need to do the John Stocker Wall Stars team.

1199
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: I know, we absolutely need.

1200
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: We'll do that at some point before the season starts.

1201
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: Continue, Okay, schedule wise, I think I'm like, its kind

1202
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 2: of seems even to me, just because it's back and forth,

1203
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: back and forth. It's the snip snap early, road home,

1204
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: road home, road home, and they're on the weekends, excuse me,

1205
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: week days, and the finish is interesting with at Miami

1206
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: in Kentucky, but they get notre Dame second straight road

1207
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: game after Duke. If I'm reading this correctly, they get

1208
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: Miami in a letdown spot after Miami is at NC

1209
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: State and at Florida State. That stretch of at NC State,

1210
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at pitt that's rough. That's just rough. I

1211
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: don't think expectations are going to be super high this

1212
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: year overall. I think they're going to be because of

1213
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Brahms ties to the program into the city. But I

1214
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's just sort of like a toss.

1215
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: I think it's just sort of like take the good,

1216
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: take the bat, and it's sort of a down the

1217
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: middle type schedule.

1218
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: A little obla de obladas schedule.

1219
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: Life goes down, life goes on, and look, the weekday

1220
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: thing is the wild card element to all of this.

1221
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: No sarahcuse they're over under is six and a half. Den.

1222
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: You may recall that q S one five in a

1223
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: row to start last season, and then they lost five

1224
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: in a row when they got to the meat of

1225
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: the schedule and they were fighting for Bowl eligibility. There

1226
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: is some Fetichini alfredo on the schedule between week five

1227
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: and week seven, and I think this is the toughest

1228
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: stretch of any team in the conference. They've got Clemson

1229
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: at home the following week there on the road at

1230
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: North Carolina, the following week there on the road at

1231
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: Florida State, before they're on by then. Actually, when they

1232
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: come back from by there on the road on a

1233
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: Thursday against Virginia Tech, which is not an easy place

1234
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: to play by any stretch of the imagination. Outside of

1235
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: that stretch, it feels workable. It feels workable to me.

1236
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: I feel fairly comfortable with that over under number of

1237
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: six and a half. If they get to seven, it

1238
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: would represent a one win improvement. I think they could

1239
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: go go higher than that. I think Syracuse is a

1240
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: team that we need to pay attention to. There's enough

1241
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: room to grow on this schedule that I'm not going

1242
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: to do the crazy thing where I'm like, oh, see

1243
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: nine wins, but I could almost see nine wins here.

1244
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I can see eight wins rather comfortably for Syracuse, provided

1245
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: they continue running the offense that we saw later in

1246
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: the year, or I guess earlier in the year where

1247
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Garrett Trader was really put in a situation to succeed.

1248
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the difficulty with Syracuse and enjoying Syracuse football and

1249
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: being hopeful about Syracuse football is if you do like

1250
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: the old lost like previously on Syracuse you could just

1251
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: run straight at this defensive line now like you could

1252
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: so simply destroy this Syracuse team on defense. That again,

1253
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't have the list of guys that they've brought

1254
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 2: in or recruited or transferred in or something, but it's

1255
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 2: the like we talked about it with North Carolina, Like, Okay,

1256
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: if Syracuse can get off the field, they're interesting. But

1257
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: it's so easy to stay on the field against the

1258
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: Syracuse front, or was at least last year. And that's

1259
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: the concern to me. That's the concern to me. And

1260
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have Syracuse's exact numbers from

1261
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: last year, and maybe that doesn't matter this year. Schedule wise,

1262
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: it's fine, It's totally fine. These There are a lot

1263
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: of teams with uncertainty what you went over the schedule,

1264
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: but in terms of defenses that they play, there's a

1265
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: lot to like about where Wake, Georgia Tech, Boston College,

1266
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: UNC Army, Western Michigan, there's wins on this schedule. They

1267
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: it'd be disappointing if Syracuse did not go to a

1268
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: bowl this year with my schedule, that's where I'm landing.

1269
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I would agree with that.

1270
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: And while they were able to get a little bit

1271
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: of a pass rush last year, there are numbers on

1272
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: third down, as you said, were not good. This were

1273
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: not good at getting off the field on third down.

1274
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: They were I love this number, one hundred and twentieth

1275
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: against the rush against the right. I was just looking

1276
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: at the same thing. The back end tackled really well.

1277
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: They were third and preventing explosive rushes, but you know,

1278
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: five six yards at a time, you could just get

1279
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Speaker 2: chunk of their opportunity rate was one twenty three. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it was just they stuffed nobody like. It was just terrible.

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Speaker 2: It was just terrible, and you could just go really

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Speaker 2: simple against them and succeed if.

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Speaker 1: You average out all the numbers and look at the

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Speaker 1: more like zoomed out holistic right. A profile for Syracuse

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: slash year. They profile is a very average team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a very very average team.

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Speaker 2: Which is why five and seven would be disappointing. Seven

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Speaker 2: and five is fine, eight and four is a great year.

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech four is the over under. I found myself asking, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you gave Virginia Tech schedule to Georgia Tech, what

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Speaker 1: would the over under be? Because I'm enamored with Virginia

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Speaker 1: Tech schedule, miss murder as you gave them that minu

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Speaker 1: so they miss a bunch of teams, is what you're saying,

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: miss a bunch of teams. Yeah, if if Georgia Tech

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01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: had that schedule, the over under might be six and

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Speaker 1: a half. Okay, But we're here with four with games

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Speaker 1: against Clemson and Georgia as well as North Carolina, Miami,

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Speaker 1: Old Miss, and Louisville. They've also got the rare let

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Speaker 1: down look ahead Sandwich game for a team projected to

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Speaker 1: have a losing record in that They've got Sarahcuse at

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: home in between Clemson and Georgia maybe the two biggest

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Speaker 1: games on the on the Tech slate. So this is

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Speaker 1: any This has been kind of a recurring theme for

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech over the last couple of seasons. They just

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: they have Georgia at the end, they have Clemson team

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: that's been kind of in its prime. There are other

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: teams around the conference that are improving as well. Old Miss.

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: Early on in the year, a non conference game on

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Speaker 1: the road, right it's.

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Speaker 2: A week before ole Miss travels Tobama though even still, Yeah,

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: this is a tough slate for Georgia Tech, and I

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: think this could be a team Frankly that maybe gets

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 2: the three or four and we come away saying, hey,

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: brank Key did a good job.

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Speaker 1: It felt like they were a lot better than that

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: record indicates.

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01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were not terribly far away. Even in

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Speaker 2: losses last year, they were competitive, They won games, and

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Speaker 2: it's just kind of NonStop, right getting Louisville to start,

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: getting Miami and ole Miss and Clemson all on the road,

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Speaker 2: and just annually having Georgia to punctuate their year. No

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: matter how good or promising or interesting or feisty, there's

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: still going to be Georgia things out. And so you're

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: not wrong with that point. But I think he's going

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: to be given a little bit of space. Even though

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: he was the interim and so now there's the expectation

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 2: of being largely competitive. He has the space to operate

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: and prove some things.

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Speaker 1: Final team Boston College. Yes, five and a half over under.

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: We are not talking about a series of long haul

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: road trips for the team that is located in the

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01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: upper northeastern corridor of the ACC. No big trips to

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 1: Miami or Florida State. The longest trip is to Atlanta

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: in October for Georgia Tech. They've also got one to

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: Louisville towards the end of September. But beyond that, I

1336
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: think the splits are okay. There is not a lot

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 1: of defense on this schedule that really frightens me. Maybe

1338
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: the deeper we get into this thing. Certainly, Florida State

1339
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: in week three is going to present a challenge for

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: Boston College and Pitt on the road on a Thursday,

1341
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: Week twelve. Pitt always plays defense, Miami will play defense.

1342
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: But there's a lot here that I think is very

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01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: gettable in the middle of this schedule. I would also

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: throw this out. I love Evan Moorehead. Okay, he's six',

1345
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: five he's two. Forty i'm calling Him capital m this.

1346
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: Year i'm very excited to see what he can do

1347
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: with a full season's worth of.

1348
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: Work or Em AND i think it's what DID i, Say?

1349
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: EVAN i think you Said, Evan but that's. OKAY i

1350
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: meant you Have Evan conley on the.

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: Mind, Yeah Emmett, Moorehead capital m six five played well

1352
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: in a limited run of games last, season and provided

1353
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: they could surround him with some talent and get more

1354
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: out of their offense last. Year, again they had issues

1355
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: with injury last. SEASON i think six is doable with the. Schedule, yeah,

1356
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: Man i've just Been i've been burned. Before you see love.

1357
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: TIE i don't know. What, Yeah, okay At louisville At,

1358
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: army At Georgia, tech At syracuse at pitt those are

1359
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: the road games that's. Workable Florida state at home that

1360
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,879
Speaker 1: is not. Workable they're gonna.

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: But you want, yeah but you want. SEE i think WITH,

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: bc you want the home games to be what you.

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: Circle the road is, whatever but you Want look It's Virginia, Tech,

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: Yukon Virginia Holy cross AND I u side of That

1365
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: Florida state. Situation it's not.

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: Bad, No, no there's a little bit of miss murder here, too.

1367
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: Right they SO bc Missus Notre, Dame.

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: North, Carolina, Clemson North.

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 2: Carolina, yeah, okay they Get Florida state to Get. Miami

1370
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: i'll tell you exactly WHAT i have written down FOR

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: bc in my. NOTES i HAVE bc dash CAPITAL fi N.

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: E it's, fine, Right so they miss who they Miss

1373
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: Florida state's at, home and it's the week Before Florida

1374
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,959
Speaker 2: state's At, clemson and the ending is, tough albeit. Buffered

1375
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: so IF i have, seen IF i had seen more

1376
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: FROM bc these past two years or, something Then i'd be,

1377
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: like all, right but new starting quarterback haven't been able

1378
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: to figure out offense lose what one of the best

1379
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: receivers in the, Country flowers Say, Flowers So i'm just

1380
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: wait and. See LIKE i have to protect my heart

1381
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: here Because i've Been i've been two up ON bc.

1382
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: Recently but, yes If Boston college has turned a corner,

1383
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 2: internally then schedules, fine it's pretty good.

1384
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: Capital m, emmett don't call Me evan. Moorehead, Yeah i'm.

1385
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: Excited yeah right in soliverbot gmail dot. Com let us

1386
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: know what we got, right what we got. Wrong would post,

1387
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: episodes will post clips out to our YouTube, channel leave

1388
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: comments for us, there certainly leave comments for us across

1389
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: social media And, Facebook, Instagram, twitter you know the usual.

1390
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: Hotspots we'd love to get your. Input we started now

1391
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: posting episodes out there for the last couple of, weeks

1392
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: as you, know last two weeks or, so where we're

1393
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: going through schedules getting some interesting feedback from, folks so

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: we welcome all that. Feedback we may, disagree but it's

1395
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: really early and this is just a quick swipe at

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 1: how we react to seeing these schedules as opposed to

1397
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: how we think a team will actually do because we've

1398
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: done exhaustive. Research we haven't done that. Yet we just

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to and there's still i think

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: time to actually figure that stuff out and get more

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: info on on what coaches are seeing in practices and the,

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Like so we will have time to do the proper,

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: previews but this is just kind of setting the stage

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01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: for that as we get Into july And. August, yeah

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: we've got conferences to, Go we've Got big, Twelve we've

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: Got group of five that we will continue to. Discuss

1407
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 1: but we'd love to hear, feedback so let us. Know,

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01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,760
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Speaker 1: Dan big twelve coming up, Next big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: Next excited obviously because there's so much novel anew about

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: the conference and it'd be fun to sort of evaluate

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: all these new. Matchups ask your, question, please are we

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: good with the all costco conference? Quality?

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01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: Fine i'm fine with. That, actually that's a, great, great great.

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Speaker 2: Accurty, YES i, have you, know, affirmation you, know making

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: me feel valid with my. Silliness. Tie it's ALL i

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: could ask.

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: For for that guy over, there my good Friend Dan,

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: rubinstein for, Myself tie Hilda, brand thanks for joining, along

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01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: playing along with our. Stupidity from the comfort of your,

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: home Car jim. Wherever That's Dan. Rubenstein I'm Ty. Hildebrand stay, Solid,

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01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: peace