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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 3: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcasts Kenny Florian, Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, you're your hosts John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh as it could to be with you. Fine people.

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Speaker 5: It is Monday, November thirteen, twenty seventeen. Appreciate y'all being here,

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Speaker 5: Episode one thirty one of the Anak and Florian podcast

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Speaker 5: starring three times UFC Title Challenger Father to be Kenneth

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Speaker 5: Allen Florian nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 4: He was established, can flow?

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Speaker 6: It's up? Kid?

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Speaker 7: Well, that was a lot of info, a lot of

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Speaker 7: unnecessary info. First of all, I love it's a beautiful hat,

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Speaker 7: but I want to see the baby browns. I want

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Speaker 7: to see your baby browns IC. All right, I want

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Speaker 7: to see them. There we go, now I could see you.

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Speaker 4: No hair plugs everyone, dude, and it needs hair plugs.

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Speaker 4: No hair plugs.

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Speaker 5: So hey, by the way, you were awfully chummy with

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Speaker 5: with Tyron Woodley in studio this weekend.

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Speaker 4: He's making you laugh quite a bit I had.

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Speaker 6: I was busted as balls.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: He kept getting pissed at me because I kept saying

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Speaker 7: that the lightweight division is the toughest division in the

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Speaker 7: UFC and he disagrees. So I kept going in on

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Speaker 7: him about, you know, the welsweight division, how it's the

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Speaker 7: third week, you know, third strongest, fifth strongest.

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Speaker 6: He didn't like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you told him seventy had nothing on the thirty

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Speaker 5: fives and the forty five.

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Speaker 4: I get it. So we are Fox Sports folks.

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Speaker 5: So as many of you know, we recently agreed to

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Speaker 5: a deal with Fox Sports to align joint forces. So today,

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Speaker 5: for the first time one hundred and thirty one episodes,

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow is live in studio in Plia Vista.

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Speaker 4: Sounds fancy? Am I pronouncing that right? Play of this?

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Speaker 6: You got it? Yeah? Absolutely, It's nice over here, dude.

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Speaker 5: So this is very exciting So to everybody at Fox Sports,

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Speaker 5: to Janko, to Neil Foley, Uh, to Ben Wissak, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna learn how to pronounce that at the controls today.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate all of you getting us up and running

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Speaker 5: with graphics and the whole package and everything else. But

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Speaker 5: don't worry to the audio files out there right here

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Speaker 5: in our hearts.

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Speaker 4: So we got you. So a lot of different things

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Speaker 4: coming up today.

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Speaker 5: Obviously we're gonna recap all that went down in Norfolk,

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Speaker 5: Virginia with f S one UFC Fight Night. We'll look

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Speaker 5: ahead to Sydney, Australia and Shanghai and UFC two eighteen,

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Speaker 5: a lot of changes. There's so many reasons why we

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Speaker 5: love this sport, but part of it is the news cycle. Right,

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Speaker 5: you better not can any content because it's twenty four

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Speaker 5: to seven with mixed martial arts and we better get

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Speaker 5: to it.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to headline headlines.

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Speaker 8: It's time for headlines.

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Speaker 3: I have some very urgent and important breaking new headlines on.

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Speaker 5: Kenny Contact So UFC two seventeen hard to believe it

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Speaker 5: was nine days ago, not only the biggest pay per

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Speaker 5: view of the year in terms of pay per view

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Speaker 5: bys and what the fight card held on paper, but

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Speaker 5: it ended up being one of the best fight cards

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Speaker 5: of twenty seventeen. So if you're f s one UFC

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Speaker 5: fight night, Pettis versus Poorier, tough act to follow and

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Speaker 5: once again flow Sport delivers. And when you're Dustin Poorier,

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Speaker 5: I guess this guy knows nothing if not how to

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Speaker 5: entertain a crowd. We thought it was a bulletproof main event,

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Speaker 5: hugely exciting. If you like blood, this was the fight

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Speaker 5: for you. But Dustin Poorier Kenny once again just accomplishing

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Speaker 5: big things. First at forty five and now at one

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Speaker 7: I was a little nervous about the card. You know,

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Speaker 7: UFC two seventeen, I said, can this deliver like two seventeen?

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Speaker 6: I tell you what a show?

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Speaker 7: And of course you get a guy like Poorier and

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Speaker 7: The other guy just gets right in your face and

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Speaker 7: just want to brawl. Dustin Pourier, and you knew we

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Speaker 7: that Anthony Pettis continues to kind of go to that

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Speaker 7: His kicking game is just ridiculous. Dustin Poier took it

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Speaker 7: I mean, what a fight, what a main card.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that I've ever seen a fighter with

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Speaker 5: come out of this show Anthony Pettis seven and six

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Speaker 4: But Dustin Pourier, of course, is the story. Now.

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Speaker 5: He stayed at featherweight because he was having success there,

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Speaker 5: you know, made his UFC debut, as many of our

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Speaker 5: Pourier was able to take Pettis down I believe inside

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Speaker 5: I have no doubt strides were made, but Poorier, to

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Speaker 6: Well, the wrestling rules change up against the cage, right.

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Speaker 7: but it didn't matter. Poorier was able to counter repeatedly,

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Speaker 7: again there's no doubt in my mind that he hurt

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Speaker 7: I think also mentally, when you are repeatedly getting out

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Speaker 5: So it goes into the books as a submission by

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Speaker 5: So Eric Coke, longtime teammate of Anthony Pettis who fought

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Speaker 5: didn't love when Keith Peterson interrupted the fight to call

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Speaker 5: they said Pettis was trying to execute a triangle. They

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Speaker 5: and they didn't love the referee intervening. No, I you know, sorry,

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: We didn't add it on the broadcast.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, man, because you know what, we didn't get a

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Speaker 7: And I think he's a fantastic ref one of the

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Speaker 6: He made a mistake here. You cannot stop a fight

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Speaker 7: And now if you are gonna stop it, why would

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Speaker 7: you put the guy back in close guard. I thought

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Speaker 7: that was really poor decision making, and Anthony Pettis must

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Speaker 7: that's what was so weird. And again, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: You cannot.

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Speaker 7: I mean, a triangle choke that's a legit a mission

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Speaker 6: I would I would put him right in there.

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Speaker 5: Crazy to think that he might need three more wins

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Speaker 5: Legend future UFC Hall of Famer Michael Bisping is with us. Mike,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no problem, guy, Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Jason Pirillo is like, you gotta be shitting me. I

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Speaker 5: man I mean, how did this all come together? It

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Speaker 9: And I'm driving down the street and I'm like, what

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Speaker 9: don't be silly. I'm like, yeah, I think I will.

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Speaker 9: I said, why not because you know, since the GSP

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Speaker 7: You know, I speak a few different languages. I don't

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Speaker 9: Fortunately I speak savage.

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Speaker 6: Loud and awesome. Man. Well listen, you are a savage.

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Speaker 7: First of all, what do you what do you before

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Speaker 6: First of all?

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Speaker 9: Ah, you know, I mean it's crazy, isn't it. You know,

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Speaker 9: But now it's just undeniable, you know. I mean, of

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Speaker 9: Where are the real men that are just willing to fight,

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Speaker 7: Well, I think we're talking to one right now. But Mike, listen,

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know anything about Kelvin Gastly and

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Speaker 9: You know, I've got nothing against Kelvin. Kelvin I'm by

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Speaker 9: I think nothing to say bad about Kelvin. I'm not

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Speaker 9: This is about me. You know, Listen, I was letting

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Speaker 9: This is me exercising my demons, my mental demons. So

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Speaker 9: so Hunter Campbell, he's the UFCS. I had, you know, lawyer,

434
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Speaker 9: if you will, head of legal. He called me, and

435
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Speaker 9: he again, once again, once again, he was stressing my health.

436
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 9: You know, he said, we need to make sure that

437
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Speaker 9: you're fine. You know, we have you going. I might

438
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 9: listen Hunter, I'm total fine. I'm totally fine. Physically, I'm great,

439
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Speaker 9: I said. Mentally, mentally, I'm not good. Mentally, I'm pissed off.

440
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Speaker 9: And the only way I'm going to fix that's fighting

441
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Speaker 9: against asap. And this is right there around the corner.

442
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 9: I'm in shape. I'm a little bit heavy again. I

443
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 9: don't know how the hell I put so much weights

444
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Speaker 9: on so fast. In fact, I do, because I've pretty

445
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 9: much lived off restaurants and alcohol for the last seven days.

446
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Speaker 8: But you know.

447
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Speaker 9: This is about me, you know, claim my head, claim

448
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 9: my mental space and just trying to go out there

449
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Speaker 9: and have a good performance.

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Speaker 5: Michael Bisbee with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

451
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Speaker 5: I do want to spend one minute here, Mike on

452
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Speaker 5: the GSP fight, because I'd imagine the quick turnaround and

453
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 5: the circumstances surrounding it will make it easier to close

454
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Speaker 5: the book on that. But you certainly had your chances, man,

455
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Speaker 5: I mean, the first thing Saint Pierre said to you

456
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 5: was that fight could have gone either way, and that

457
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 5: you're the toughest guy he's ever fought. So I don't

458
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Speaker 5: know if you want to erase this performance necessarily. Man,

459
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 5: there was a lot of good in there.

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Speaker 9: I thought, yeah, well, that's what everybody keeps saying to me.

461
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I'll be honest, I haven't watched it back.

462
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 9: Anytime I see any interviews, I can't watch them. I'm

463
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Speaker 9: not interested. You know. At the end of the day,

464
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Speaker 9: I lost the fight.

465
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Speaker 6: I wabbled him a couple.

466
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Speaker 9: Of times in the second round with the right hand.

467
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Speaker 9: I felt, oh, I was able to get back to

468
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Speaker 9: my feet whenever I wanted. In the second round that

469
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Speaker 9: I was landing some good elbows from my back and

470
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Speaker 9: I thought, jeezus, I'm beating him up pretty good here.

471
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Speaker 9: But then I thought, of course, he's still losing in

472
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Speaker 9: the judge's eyes, so it's time to get up as

473
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Speaker 9: soon as I thought that, that was the moment I

474
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Speaker 9: got up so I could get up. Whenever I watched it,

475
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Speaker 9: I think I let him. I think I overstressed the

476
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Speaker 9: takedown aspect a little bit. I mean, the first round,

477
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Speaker 9: the game plan was alviously trying be elusive with my footwork,

478
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 9: so he could have said, up a shot, you know,

479
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 9: that was the plan. But looking back in hindsight, I

480
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 9: shouldn't have done that. Looking back in hindsight, I should have,

481
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 9: you know, just thrown cause into the wind. But no, No,

482
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Speaker 9: I felt good. I felt great. I could see him

483
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 9: gassing in that third round. He had blood point all

484
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 9: over his face and he was leaving super heavy, and

485
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Speaker 9: I felt good. You know, we were in a scrabble

486
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 9: and he landed a clean left hook man that just

487
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 9: put me down. He followed over some nice delbows and

488
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 9: got the choking you know. So you know, God bless him.

489
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Speaker 6: Good for him.

490
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Speaker 9: You know, I'm not taking away from him. I'm taking

491
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Speaker 9: things away from me. I didn't perform him as well

492
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 9: as I could have done. It was you know, people

493
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 9: say it was a good fight and this and not,

494
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Speaker 9: but it still stings.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I'm sure it does, all right, real quickly

496
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 5: before we let you go, and again, very gracious of

497
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 5: you to carve out some time as you go to train.

498
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Speaker 5: I can't even believe it. So your son Callum. Of course,

499
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 5: we've had him as a guest on the show before.

500
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Speaker 5: We are reaching a new audience though now because we're

501
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Speaker 5: with Fox Sports. So Callum guys sixteen or seventeen years old.

502
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's a monster wrestler, good athlete there

503
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: in California. Maybe gonna test the amateur MMA waters at

504
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 5: some point, Mike, But given what you've done in bolstering

505
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Speaker 5: your legacy to such an extent over the last two years,

506
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 5: I mean, this was a tough act to follow before.

507
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 5: Now you're like not even giving him a chance with

508
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Speaker 5: what you've done.

509
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Speaker 9: I love the fact that you always give Callum a

510
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Speaker 9: shouts out, John, I really appreciate that, as will he,

511
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Speaker 9: you know. I mean to be honest, I mean, there's

512
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 9: there's many reasons why I'm taking this fight, you know,

513
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Speaker 9: But ultimately, I used to work then end jobs. I

514
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 9: used to work for minimum wage. I used to work

515
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 9: for three pound fifty five an hour, and and I

516
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 9: quit work to become a professional fighter to provide for

517
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Speaker 9: my family playing simple so so you know, another payday

518
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 9: so quick. I mean, I'm still in shape. I'm going

519
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 9: to go right now with Hapyol dos Angeles and do

520
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 9: do some pad work with Perillo, do a little bit

521
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Speaker 9: of grappling. But I do this to provide my family.

522
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna you know, I'm fortunate. I'm one a great

523
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 9: contract so I get paid well, and that's why I'm

524
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Speaker 9: doing this. I'm trying to set myself up for the future.

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Speaker 9: I'll probably have one more fight in London and then

526
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Speaker 9: call it a day. But yeah, yeah, I mean, I

527
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Speaker 9: do this for my children. Honestly, I don't want Callum

528
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Speaker 9: to fight. Uh you know, I want to take this

529
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Speaker 9: opportunity to say congratulated to George Saint Pierre, well done,

530
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Speaker 9: you know, well done you you had a great final,

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Speaker 9: good performance and uh goslm. You know I'll see you

532
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Speaker 9: next week in China. Can't even believe I'm saying that,

533
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 9: But rather the minute arranging my fees and all kinds

534
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 9: of stuff. So that's a major distraction. But uh yeah, yeah,

535
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Speaker 9: hopefully tuning him on five pass next week and hopefully

536
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Speaker 9: I'll get.

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Speaker 5: To win, all right, my man, Well, I know you

538
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: don't take compliments all that well, but even taking this

539
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 5: fight just adds to your legend and your legacy. Michael Bisbee,

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Speaker 5: Kelvin Gaslin, Saturday, November twenty fifth, seven am Eastern on

541
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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Pass Mike, appreciate the time, man, stay healthy,

542
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Speaker 5: You get the passport picks, and I'll see you in Shanghai.

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Speaker 9: Man, when do we fight?

544
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 8: John? Do you know what time in that day?

545
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 5: It's gonna be at night in Shanghai, so you don't

546
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Speaker 5: have to worry about that.

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Speaker 6: Michael doesn't care. He really doesn't care.

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Speaker 7: Regular Hey, by the way, Mike, you're undefeated in China, man,

549
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 7: so far right, so good luck.

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Speaker 9: Exactly ch I'm undefeated in England. I'm undefeated in title challenges.

551
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 9: You know, it's just not in defending, so right, you

552
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 9: can spin it. A lot of positive guys got me off, Cake,

553
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 9: but I'm back to the join board. Calvin, have fun, brother,

554
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 9: good luck, Hi, guys, I'm a good bomb bye bye.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 10: There.

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Speaker 5: He is former UFC Midway Champion Michael Bisbane with us

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Speaker 5: on the Annik and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what else can you say about this guy?

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Speaker 4: Right? Just a total inspiration and.

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Speaker 5: Not to mention the fact that you know he's doing

587
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Speaker 5: a lot of this, not making a lot of excuses

588
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Speaker 5: for the rib injury, Kenny, that we heard he sustained, right,

589
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Speaker 5: but you know he's not talking about a perillos, not

590
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Speaker 5: talking about it. The eye injury, which has been well documented.

591
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Speaker 5: I'm my twin brother calls me after the GSP fight,

592
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Speaker 5: He's like, dude, Bisbey's got two eyes. He beats GSP

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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, you know, and there's an argument to

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Speaker 5: be made. So I just don't know that I can

595
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Speaker 5: can say anything more just about how much I admired

596
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Speaker 5: professional athlete in his toughness. I've talked a lot Kenny

597
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Speaker 5: about being their cage side for the Anderson Silver performance.

598
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Speaker 5: What maybe the toughest professional athlete I've ever come across.

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Speaker 5: And I guess we shouldn't be surprised that, you know,

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Speaker 5: thirty pounds or whatever, he is over the scale, that

601
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Speaker 5: he's gonna make that walk and he'll make weight.

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Speaker 4: You can be sure eleven days from now.

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Speaker 6: He's a beast. He is a beast. Man and a

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Speaker 6: lot of people.

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Speaker 7: You know, he had his interview with Megan o'levy after

606
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Speaker 7: the fight and he was like, I'm good to go

607
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Speaker 7: right now.

608
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Speaker 6: I could fight right now.

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Speaker 7: And you know a lot of people say that right

610
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Speaker 7: after a fight, but they don't mean it. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 7: actually two weeks no, no, no, no, I'm good, I'm good. I'm

612
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Speaker 7: just gonna retch out Mike.

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Speaker 6: No. He wants to fight and he will fight. This

614
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Speaker 6: dude is a beast. That's why. You know, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: You know a lot of people might hate on Michael Bisbeck,

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Speaker 7: but everybody respects Michael bissemy because he's a guy who's

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Speaker 7: gonna show up on fight night. He's gonna fight his

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Speaker 7: ass off, and he's gonna back up what he says.

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Speaker 7: He is a badass. He's gonna get in your face,

620
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Speaker 7: he's gonna try to knock you out. He's gonna deliver

621
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Speaker 7: an exciting fight every single time out. And uh, you know,

622
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Speaker 7: it's just so impressive and it's not an easy fight

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Speaker 7: against Kelvin Gastolam. And I don't even think he cares.

624
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Speaker 7: I mean, it could be a grizzly Bear for all

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Speaker 7: he cares. If it's the same weight, he's gonna go

626
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Speaker 7: out there and fight.

627
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

628
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Speaker 5: And that's an important point because Kelvin Gasolom, at least

629
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Speaker 5: in terms of taking on all challenges, is very much

630
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Speaker 5: cut from the same cloth of Michael bisback. So they

631
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Speaker 5: could have given him, you know who he thought was

632
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Speaker 5: the most dangerous eighty five or on the roster on

633
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Speaker 5: short notice, and Gaslum's taken that fight. As far as

634
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Speaker 5: Anderson Silva Kenny, I don't want to spend too much

635
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Speaker 5: time on it, but out due to this potential usat

636
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Speaker 5: of violation. His second first one came I believe January

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Speaker 5: of twenty fifteen, So I mean this effectively removes him

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Speaker 5: from any greatest of all time conversation. As far as

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Speaker 5: I'm concerned, I want to give him the benefit of

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Speaker 5: the doubt. This is alleged right now, so perhaps there's

641
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Speaker 5: a b sample that gets him out of dodge here.

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00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, but this, unfortunately for him, is now

643
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Speaker 5: a big part of the chapter in the narrative for

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Speaker 5: a guy who really got a lot of us into MMA,

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Speaker 5: and for a lot of us as we became MMA

646
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Speaker 5: fans at that time, he was the greatest we had

647
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Speaker 5: ever seen.

648
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Speaker 6: It's really unfortunate, man, it really is.

649
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 7: Especially Anderson Sylvia always portrayed the image of respectful and

650
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 7: humble martial artist, and at this point, you know, not

651
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 7: only does he effectively remove himself from the conversation of

652
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Speaker 7: greatest of all time, he effectively removes himself from his career.

653
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 7: He will never fight again. In the UFC, he's forty

654
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 7: two years old. With a confirmation from the B sample,

655
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Speaker 7: which by the way, is most likely going to be

656
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 7: ninety nine point nine to nine percent accurate with the

657
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Speaker 7: A sample, So in that point zero zero zero one

658
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 7: or whatever it is.

659
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Speaker 6: Chance.

660
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't think the prayers

661
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 7: are going to help there, but yeah, it's most likely

662
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 7: going to come back positive as well.

663
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Speaker 6: So yeah, it looks like his career is done.

664
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Speaker 7: And again I kind of agree with Michael is that

665
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 7: that first time around, you know, with all the excuses.

666
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Speaker 6: That he had it cut, people kind of gol over

667
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 6: it as much.

668
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 7: People kind of didn't maybe make as big of a

669
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Speaker 7: deal about it as it should. And it's tough, man,

670
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Speaker 7: because listen, you know, obviously certain supplements are tainted or

671
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Speaker 7: certain things are tainted, but it just seems like such

672
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 7: an easy excuse these days. And you know the other

673
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 7: thing that we should be thankful for is you Sada.

674
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Speaker 7: They are doing their job, They are catching people, and

675
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Speaker 7: we'll see what happens goes that, you know, when we

676
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Speaker 7: go forward here in the sport. But I would assume

677
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Speaker 7: that Anderst Silva is done.

678
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Speaker 5: And I will say too that the fighters who screamed

679
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 5: from the rooftop saying that they are clean, right, the

680
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: Michael Bispings of the world, the George Saint Pierre's Ben

681
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 5: Askron right, They've never popped for anything, right, you know,

682
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Speaker 5: So I'll leave it at that. I also want to

683
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Speaker 5: get your thoughts UFC two eighteen Frankie edgar Out. I

684
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 5: don't know if it was a fractured orbital, but it

685
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Speaker 5: looked like that was the case when I saw him

686
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Speaker 5: in person there in Norfolk, Virginia. Jose Aldo in and

687
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Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, you want to give the

688
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: census greatest featherweight of all time a shot to get

689
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: his belt back? No argument here, you know, Joanna Young

690
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Jcheck deserves an immediate rematch. I didn't necessarily feel like

691
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 5: Aldo did with Holloway because Frankie Edgar was waiting there

692
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 5: in the trenches. But I think this is the fight

693
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Speaker 5: to make I think the King of Rio, and make

694
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Speaker 5: no mistake about it, this is the king of fucking

695
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: Rio Dejaneira right now. I think he had some success

696
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: against Holloway the first time. I think it's a huge

697
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Speaker 5: ass kenny for any featherweight in the world to beat Max.

698
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Speaker 4: Right now.

699
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Speaker 5: I think Max might be the best pound for pound

700
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Speaker 5: fighter in the world. But I think it's the right

701
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Speaker 5: fight and I'm excited to see it in three weeks.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's unfortunate for FRANKI Edgar, and you know, this

703
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 7: is a guy who most likely has fought and fought

704
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Speaker 7: injured many times before. But when you're talking about the face,

705
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 7: when you're talking about a broken orbital, a broken nose, whatever,

706
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 7: those aren't things you want to play with. You just

707
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 7: can't fight. Your face will never be the same. So

708
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 7: unfortunate news there for FRANKI Edgar, the legend, and I

709
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 7: hope he heals up quickly. This was a good sign

710
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 7: here Jose Aldo ask for this fight because for me,

711
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Speaker 7: I feel like maybe his motivation hasn't always been there.

712
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 7: I think at this point he lives a pretty comfortable

713
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 7: life in Rio de Janeiro. And the fact that he

714
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 7: was kind of begging for this fight and tweeting and

715
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 7: asking the UFC and going to the UFC and wanting

716
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 7: this fight ahead of his fight against Ricardo Lomis where

717
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 7: now he has to cut weight, is a very good sign.

718
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 7: This is a motivated Josie Aldo. This is a Josie

719
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 7: Aldo who wants to challenge himself. This is a Josie

720
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 7: Aldo who wants his belt back. And when you look

721
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 7: at that fight against Max Holloway, I absolutely agree with you.

722
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 7: He was doing phenomenal. The thing is he wasn't using

723
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Speaker 7: all of his weapons. This is a mixed martial artist

724
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 7: who can do anything and everything. And the fact that

725
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 7: he was just strictly trying to box, I couldn't tell

726
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 7: if there was an injury there, maybe with his legs,

727
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 7: or if he's kind of fallen in love with his boxing.

728
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 7: I know he's been talking about maybe going into professional

729
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 7: boxing and this and that. Whatever he's got, he's got

730
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: to stick to what he does best, that's mixed martial arts.

731
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Speaker 7: And he's got to throw the elbows, he's got to

732
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 7: throw his knees, and he's got to use those kicks.

733
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Speaker 7: What makes josialdo so good. He gets you worried about

734
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 7: the hands and then he smashes your leg up. He's

735
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: got to get back to doing that, especially a guy

736
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Speaker 7: he utilizes a lot of footwork, like Max Holloway, a

737
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 7: guy who's gonna be a little bit taller. You gotta

738
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 7: slow that guy down and you gotta throw leg kicks.

739
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 7: So I'm curious to see what kind of tactics and

740
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 7: strategy he uses here against Max Holloway, a guy who

741
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: has proven to be extremely determined. He has an unbelievable chin.

742
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 7: He will pressure you, and he also knows how to adapt.

743
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Speaker 7: So I agree with you. Max Holloway is one of

744
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 7: the best power for pal fighters in the world. I

745
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 7: put him on my list and people were going, what's

746
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 7: he doing on that list? He has eleven fights in

747
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Speaker 7: a row. He'd just beat Josilda, who was undefeated for

748
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Speaker 7: over ten years. And another thing that was a surprise

749
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 7: on social media John was people were saying, you know,

750
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Speaker 7: I totally get the Cup Swanson conversation. I would love

751
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 7: to see Cub you know, in there. I think he

752
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 7: deserves a title shot at some point. But how do

753
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 7: you Deny, a guy in Josialda who is the champ

754
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 7: for so long. You know, people forget of what he

755
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 7: did against Frankie Edgar at UFC two hundred. Maybe he

756
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 7: I mean defensively, offensively. I haven't seen a performance like

757
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 7: that in a very long time. Joseph Aldo looked like

758
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 7: he was at a different level. So the fact that

759
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 7: people aren't remembering how good Jose Aldo is, I'm you know,

760
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 7: I'm kind of scratching my head here.

761
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I think you summed it up beautifully.

762
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 5: Cub Swatson, of course, as a main event, I believe

763
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: in Fresno, California against T City Brian Ortagan. If he

764
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 5: wins that fight, he's on that short list at forty five.

765
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, Cub's worthy. Sure.

766
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: I think they went in the right direction here with

767
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 5: jose Aldo. And you know a lot of people turned

768
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 5: on Jose Kenny when he pulled out of that first

769
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor fight. So you're right to lead with the

770
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 5: fact that this does change that narrative. Max Holloway is

771
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: a problem and the fact that Jose Aldo wants him

772
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Speaker 5: on short notice before you know a week or well,

773
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: I guess when was the Lamas fight.

774
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: Was it the same day or was that in Winnipeggers.

775
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 6: It was later, Yeah, it was exactly So.

776
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 5: I like that, so we'll see what happens and excited

777
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: for that Detroit show. Very good fight card on paper.

778
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: You got in Gono and over him there as well.

779
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: All right, let's get back to this UFC fight night recap.

780
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Speaker 5: By the way, great crowd in Norfolk, Virginia, sold out

781
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 5: on the campus of Old Dominion University, and you know,

782
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: we talked a little bit about the fact that the

783
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden crowd wasn't amazing for UFC two seventeen,

784
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 5: but they couldn't help but be loud because the fight

785
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 5: car was so good. This crowd added to the fight

786
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 5: car period end of story, made moments like Clay gwaite

787
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 5: as win even bigger than maybe they otherwise would have been.

788
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Speaker 5: Let's get to Matt Brown knocks out Diego Sanchez with

789
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: a beautiful elbow really one of the better knockouts that

790
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: people have ever seen, I think with an elbow in

791
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 5: UFC history. So an elbow guy like Flow had to

792
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 5: like it. It comes three minutes and forty four seconds

793
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 5: into round one, and what a Way Kenny for Matt

794
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: Brown to potentially close the book on what has been

795
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 5: an underappreciated career big win over Diego Sanchez over the

796
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: weekend for the Ohio native Matt Brown.

797
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 7: This was just a brutal knockout victory there from Matt Brown.

798
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 7: You know, and I know Diego said that it hit

799
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 7: him kind of on the back of the head. It

800
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 7: looked like it hit him more on the side of

801
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 7: the head. And if it did hit in the back

802
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 7: of the head, that's something you can't really avoid if

803
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 7: you're moving your head at the time that the strike

804
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 7: is being thrown.

805
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 6: It's fair game. It just is.

806
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 7: That's the way it's going to go down, unfortunately for

807
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 7: Diego Sanchez. Now, as much as I love seeing the

808
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 7: knockout for Matt Brown, I hated seeing Diego Sanchez get

809
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 7: knocked out as well. It's a really tough thing to see.

810
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 7: And you know, for me, I thought Diego looked great.

811
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 7: He actually came in at one hundred and seventy pounds.

812
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 7: I thought he looked awesome on the scale, looked very fit.

813
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 7: He was trying to take the fight to the Matt

814
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 7: just could not against Matt Brown, a guy who was

815
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 7: just brutal. In the clinch, Diego actually scored with an

816
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 7: excellent body kick that hurt Matt Brown, something that has

817
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 7: affected Matt Brown throughout his career, something where he's been

818
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 7: vulnerable in the pass against other fighters. But you know,

819
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 7: Matt's not gonna quit man. You saw his knees buckle

820
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 7: for a little bit there. He got right back up,

821
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 7: made the adjustments, started prushing Diego Sanchez, which made Diego uncomfortable,

822
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 7: caught that kick, and from there went into that brutal elbow.

823
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: Man. You're not going to see any better elbow knockouts

824
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 6: than that one. Geez.

825
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: So May of twenty fourteen, we were there in Cincinnati,

826
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: we referenced this five round main event against Eric Silva

827
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Speaker 5: in a fight in which Matt Brown was touched to

828
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: the body early Kenny, and that night, I don't even

829
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 5: know how he recovered to come back and finish Silva,

830
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: I think in the third round. But now that we

831
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: have that history, right, you just knew that Matt Brown

832
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 5: was going to bite down on the mouthpiece and just

833
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: find every way to stay in that fight. And he

834
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 5: does get Diego Sanchez out of there, and in so

835
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: doing at least on paper, if my notes are correct,

836
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: he becomes the most prolific finisher in UFC welterweight history.

837
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: A lot of that was due to longevity, Kenny, but

838
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: twelve finishes and fourteen UFC wins, all at one hundred

839
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: and seventy pounds, so he's won ahead of Matt Hughes.

840
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: Now, and when I.

841
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: Was doing the post fight show with you guys, we

842
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: referenced Chris Lytle right and how he went out the

843
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: right way, the near perfect way, and at least in

844
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: terms of the finish of this fight, Matt Brown up

845
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: the anty right. So, but show money is a powerful thing,

846
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: and for Matt Brown, with three dependents or four if

847
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: you include his wife, right, may want to try to

848
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: get that show money at least one time more.

849
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 4: You know.

850
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: And I know Daniel Cormier, Kenny, and I'm sorry to

851
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 5: catch I know Cormier was very pro retire on Twitter.

852
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 5: Once you invoke that R word to follow through with it,

853
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 5: I guess I kind of see it a little bit

854
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 5: differently on the strength of this performance, if he wants

855
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: to chase one more show payday, I don't have a

856
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: problem with it.

857
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 6: I agree with you.

858
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 7: I think for Matt Brown more than anything else. I

859
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 7: think he realizes he has at least one more fight

860
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 7: in him. For him, I think he's looking at it

861
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 7: from a different angle, a slightly different angle. He's saying,

862
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 7: do I have another run at the belt? Which is

863
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 7: something very different. I think for Matt Brown, I think

864
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 7: he understands that if he isn't chasing the belt, perhaps

865
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 7: his motivation to train, in his motivation to prepare for

866
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: those fights, I think it's greatly diminished. And I think

867
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 7: he realizes that a run is much further out of

868
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 7: his reach in that crazy weld toweight division. So I

869
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 7: think that's where he's coming from. But I absolutely agree

870
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 7: with you. I mean, what other job he's going to

871
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 7: be able to go out there and get paid like

872
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 7: he does and enjoy that intense feeling of fighting another

873
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 7: human being in the octagon. There's just not a whole

874
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 7: lot of feelings that you could equate it a lot

875
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 7: to kind of what the military experiences. You know, those

876
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 7: special operation soldiers that are so used to living in

877
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 7: that intense environment and they come back and everything seems

878
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 7: like it's in slow motion. It's hard to get that

879
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: same kind of adrenaline, that same kind of high that

880
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 7: you experience in winning and competing.

881
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: In the octagon. It was something it was very difficult

882
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 6: for me when I retired.

883
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 7: So I hope Matt Brown, whatever he decides to do,

884
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 7: he does it and does it with happiness. He makes

885
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 7: a decision that he's not forced to do, but a

886
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 7: decision that he wants to do.

887
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kemp Flow retired. He didn't text me back for

888
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: like a year.

889
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 5: It's a hard transition and maybe made easier for Matt

890
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: Brown by the fact that he has a baby girl

891
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 5: and those two twin boys. And even if he does

892
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: go out Kenny and lose this next fight, which by

893
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: the way, would be his fortieth pro fight, no one

894
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 5: can take that Diego Sanchez moment away from him and

895
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: his sons.

896
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: No one can take the Eric Silva moment away from him.

897
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: But whatever he was chasing against Diego Sanchez literally couldn't

898
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: have drawn it up any better, and he has that moment.

899
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 5: So congratulations to the immortal Matt Brown. Congratulations also to

900
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 5: Andrea Rolovski, who ends the five fight skid. He said

901
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: in our post fight interview that he would have retired

902
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 5: if he didn't get the better of Junior Albini this night,

903
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: and he did.

904
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: I think there's angles on both of these guys.

905
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 5: Albini's performance I thought was listless, right, I just don't

906
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: think he brought very much to the table. Didn't appear

907
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 5: to be particularly conditioned, invoking the towel to make two

908
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty five and one half pounds. But for

909
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 5: Andrea Arolovsky Kenny, his coaches have been screaming in my

910
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 5: ear for two years that his skills haven't regressed, And

911
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: even though maybe they have a little bit, he still

912
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: went out there and beat a credentialed UFC heavyweight who

913
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 5: was in the top fifteen and who came in having

914
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 5: won his last ten. So Pitbull still finding away kid.

915
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely.

916
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: What's surprising is that Albini didn't break the internet with

917
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 7: those diaper shorts.

918
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 6: What was going on John with the show?

919
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: Aw Man?

920
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 5: So I gotta tell you So, I I try not

921
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: to have to go take a pistol in the telecast,

922
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: but I couldn't.

923
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: I couldn't get through.

924
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 5: So during Junior Albini's walk, I was actually in the restaurant,

925
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 5: so I didn't.

926
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: I came out and I'm like, oh, dude's wearing a

927
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: fucking diaper, you know.

928
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: So I didn't know if Paul Felder had addressed that

929
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: during the walk or not.

930
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 4: But Paul's just looking at me like, bro, do you

931
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: see this? Like what is going on?

932
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean I think we we we talked

933
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: about it, right, I said, Paul Felder is going to

934
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: request the same diaper in Detroit in three weeks. But

935
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: it was a distraction. Thankfully it didn't. It didn't totally

936
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 5: dominate the fight for us. But I imagine you sitting

937
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 5: on that desk you had you had some fun with

938
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 5: the uh.

939
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 6: He thought he thought it was a sumo fight.

940
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 7: Well, what's going on? It was entertaining, hard to focus.

941
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 7: But listen, Albanie Man. He looked like the guy who

942
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 7: was the veteran who wasn't very motivated, who's had a

943
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 7: lot of fights in the yachtagon. There was no pep

944
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 7: in his step that there was no passion in the

945
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 7: way that he fought. He seemed way too calm and

946
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 7: it wasn't throwing enough and just kind of forcing a knockout.

947
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 7: This was not a junior Albini that I had hyped

948
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 7: up on the pre show. I tell you that because

949
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 7: I think Albini has a ton of skills, a ton

950
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 7: of time.

951
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 6: He moves very well.

952
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's his trainers, I don't know

953
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 7: if he had an injury. I don't know, you know,

954
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: the the Jeta like who knows what the issue was.

955
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 7: But this is not the junior Albini that I knew.

956
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 7: And for Arlovsky, what a performance.

957
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 9: Man.

958
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 7: This was an Arlovsky that was dancing, getting in, getting out.

959
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 7: He looked motivated, He looked like he had a game plan,

960
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 7: he looked like he had some very good tactics. Did

961
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 7: a great job of keeping his hands up, something that

962
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 7: maybe has been a vulnerability of his in the past,

963
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 7: especially you know, given that excellent left hook from Albini,

964
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 7: that was the only thing Albini really was throwing that

965
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 7: was dangerous, and Arlovsky was very well prepared for it.

966
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 7: Did a great job of showing variety. Sometimes Arlovsky has

967
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 7: fallen in love with his boxing little bit too much.

968
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 7: Not the case here. He was really utilizing every single

969
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 7: weapon that he had. Awesome to see Arlovski, one of

970
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 7: the good guys in this sport, former heavyweight champion, showing

971
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: that hey, he still wants some more fights in the UFC.

972
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: And I think Mike Brown has certainly been a stabilizing

973
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 5: force in that corner for a while. Of course, andre

974
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: was with Jackson wink mmma. Now he lives in South Florida.

975
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 5: As I mentioned, our kids go to the same preschool,

976
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: so it'll be exciting for the first time in a

977
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 5: couple of years to walk in there to do pick

978
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: up and be able to congratulate Andre Arlovsky. And for

979
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 5: Junior Albini, I think you know you put it well, man.

980
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: I far be it for me to sit here and

981
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 5: say a guy didn't put in a hard training camp,

982
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 5: but you know he made seventy thousand or so from

983
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: his last fight. This was a guy whose daughter previously,

984
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: you know, was playing with shampoo bottles for toys. And

985
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 5: he talked a lot with me on the phone, very

986
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: articulately last Tuesday, a day after our show, about how

987
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: much he was able to change his life and how

988
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 5: much it meant to his wife and everything else. And

989
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 5: I don't know, oftentimes, Kenny, that can propel a guy

990
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: and make them super hungry to to go on and

991
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: do great things.

992
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: And this was a step back for Junior Albini.

993
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: Will see what his next UFC appearance holds a lot

994
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: of big winners. Man to get here, get to here.

995
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: I'm having a hard time figuring out which guy to

996
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 5: go to. I like, says Er Fajites call out of

997
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 5: Paolo Costa. I think that is an interesting fight. And

998
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: whenever there's that bad Brazilian blood, Kenny, you know it's interesting.

999
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 5: But I quickly want to talk to you about the

1000
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: elbow from Nate Marcour Right, how about you land an

1001
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 5: elbow right.

1002
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: At the end of a fight.

1003
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 5: The final strike you throw gives a guy a fucking

1004
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 5: souvenir for life.

1005
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely a scar for life. Man.

1006
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 7: Right at the bell, I talk about making every strike count.

1007
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 7: Mark Bright snuck that one right in there and make

1008
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 7: god dude, because he was cut right as well, and

1009
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 7: I think he wanted to return the favor, and boy

1010
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 7: did he return the favor.

1011
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 5: Hafai Ela Sunsal with one of the biggest moments of

1012
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 5: a UFC career that doesn't get the love that it deserves.

1013
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 5: Here he knocks out Matthew Lopez and then holds back

1014
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: the final hammer fist.

1015
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 10: Right.

1016
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: I don't know what was more impressive the finish, his.

1017
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: Ability to hold that strike back, and I saw, interestingly, Kenny,

1018
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 5: some people talking about Walt Harris a couple of weeks ago,

1019
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: his inability to hold that kick back against Mark Godbeer

1020
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 5: juxtaposed against the sun Sauz restraint here. Certainly a conversation

1021
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 5: to be had there, but huge win for Halfayela Sunso

1022
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 5: and this is really what he needed, Kenny. It had

1023
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: been a long time since he had really put away

1024
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: a guy like this, and a Sunsa's got a big

1025
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: one next, for sure.

1026
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 7: I would think Halfayalla Sunsal, the guy that nobody wants

1027
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 7: to fight. At one hundred and thirty five pounds, this

1028
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 7: guy talk about a problem man. He's got knock up

1029
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 7: power in both of his hands. Those kicks, dude, Like

1030
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 7: I mean, he tattooed the inside of that leg of Lopez,

1031
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 7: and Lopez is tough. He's a big thirty fiver obviously

1032
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 7: actually didn't make thirty five for this one. So yeah,

1033
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 7: excellent wrestler, you know, and obviously for a lot of

1034
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 7: jiu jitsu guys that the toughest matchup is a wrestler striker.

1035
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 7: That is the toughest matchup. A sunsau showed that he

1036
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 7: can wrestle, he can strike, he can submit you. He

1037
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 7: can really do it all in that division, and you

1038
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 7: know there's a guy that people kind of sleep on

1039
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 7: and the Sunshow. All he has been doing is essentially winning.

1040
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 7: He has a win over TJ. Del Shaw, and of

1041
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 7: course that was a fight that really could have gone

1042
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 7: either way. But a Sunsow I think should get that

1043
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 7: title shot pretty soon. He's extremely impressive and unfortunate for Lopez.

1044
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 7: This had to be a learning experience for Lopez, both

1045
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 7: in the fight and preparation for that weight cut.

1046
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 6: Not good for him.

1047
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, man, I was just blown away by a

1048
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 7: Sunsal's performance, and yeah, I'm curious to see who they

1049
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 7: match up match him up with next.

1050
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: The Banham weight division is outstanding right now.

1051
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 5: Jimmy Rivera I think has won his last twenty and

1052
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: he's gonna be with us in the next couple of weeks.

1053
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: I was texting with him last night. But he's deserving Kenny.

1054
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: But at least in terms of the UFC body of work,

1055
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 5: halfay Ela Sunsal would appear to be hard to deny.

1056
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 5: I mean, he's ten to one at one hundred and

1057
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 5: thirty five pounds, the only loss by unanimous decision as

1058
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: you mentioned to the current champion, TJ. Dillashow that was

1059
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 5: a UFC two hundred and snapped a seven fight win streak.

1060
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 5: So the knockout of Sunsaw had been maybe that, oh,

1061
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 5: he's not taking fights or staying healthy to take fights,

1062
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: or he's not putting guys away. Now he's been super

1063
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 5: active three fights in twenty seventeen, fighting guys that maybe

1064
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: people don't race to the window to fight, like al

1065
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: Jamain Sterling and Marlon Marice. He also referenced with me

1066
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: the fact that both of those fights were wins by

1067
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 5: split decision and needed something more definitive. Certainly got that

1068
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: here against Matthew Lopez. So no argument for me. If

1069
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 5: a title fight is next for Hafai Ela sunsw Dominic

1070
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: Cruz of course is hurt, so that maybe opens a

1071
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 5: door for some of these guys potentially. What about a

1072
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 5: fight between a Sunsaw and Cody Garbrit I mean as

1073
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 5: a championship eliminator. I mean there's you know, TJ. Dillashaw

1074
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: might go to twenty five, so we'll see what happens.

1075
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 7: Dude, that fight would be ridiculous. I just got man,

1076
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 7: I just got chills thinking about that one. That would

1077
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 7: be an amazing fight, and I think it's a fight

1078
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 7: that makes a lot of sense.

1079
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: John, all right, another fight on the main card between

1080
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: a couple of Ken Flow's former victim. Clay Guida gets

1081
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 5: Joe los On out of there in sixty seven seconds,

1082
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: and here's another guy who needed to finish in the

1083
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 5: worst way and who looks amazing. I think back at

1084
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty five pounds and at thirty five

1085
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 5: years old. A few seconds I think before he put

1086
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 5: Joe Lo's on away, I said on the broadcast. His

1087
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 5: last UFC finished Kenny January first, twenty eleven, a submission

1088
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 5: of Takanori Gomi. It had been a long time, and

1089
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: for Guida to do it in this setting with so

1090
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 5: much fan support was just a really cool moment for

1091
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 5: the carpenter.

1092
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 7: It really was, because I was kind of seeing a

1093
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 7: little bit of a disturbing trend in Clay Guido, where

1094
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 7: again I didn't see any evolution in his game. And

1095
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 7: if you're fighting at one hundred and fifty five pounds

1096
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 7: or one hundred and forty five pounds against all those killers, man,

1097
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 7: you gotta constantly be able to reinvent.

1098
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 6: Yourself as a fighter.

1099
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 7: Clay has been around a very long time, and since

1100
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 7: making the switch over to Team Alfamel, this looks like

1101
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 7: a different guy man. I like the way he's shooting

1102
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 7: in on his takedowns. Now he's being way more deceptive.

1103
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 7: I think he's become a more effective striker as well.

1104
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 7: He's not as wild, he's more technically sound and obviously

1105
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 7: hitting hard. I mean caught Joe los On with a

1106
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 7: beautiful hook that finished him off with another right hand

1107
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 7: or as an uppercut, I think maybe. But Man Claiy

1108
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 7: Geda looked phenomenal and awesome to see. Claig Weeda is

1109
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 7: one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. His

1110
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 7: family is amazing. Yeah, so I was really happy to

1111
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 7: see Clay get the win over Joe los On, who

1112
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 7: is another awesome guy in the sport. So Man Clay

1113
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 7: continues to impress and for Joe los On, now I'm

1114
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 7: seeing a Joe los On that really just hasn't evolved

1115
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 7: in a very very long time. He's always tough, he's

1116
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 7: always dangerous. But I want to see new skills from

1117
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 7: Joelaws and Joe los On.

1118
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: If you want to.

1119
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: Continue to fight here and fight at a high level.

1120
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 7: I'd love to see him integrating some new things. I

1121
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 7: don't I don't know if it's maybe getting a different

1122
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 7: on striking or wrestling, whatever it is, but I think

1123
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 7: we need to see something new from Joe here.

1124
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 5: He does have that inner circle that he relies on greatly.

1125
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: But he did say to us and I wish I

1126
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 5: had my card handy that he did get some different

1127
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: oh you know what. So what he did do during

1128
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: this camp, Kenny was basically on Saturdays at Lows on MMA.

1129
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 5: He had all of the local UFC guys Andre Sukumtat,

1130
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 5: Rob Font, Calvin Cater, I hope I'm pronouncing it right,

1131
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: had a lot of different people to try to get

1132
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: different looks because he said he had gotten a little

1133
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: bit stagnant with all of the same training partners, so

1134
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: that helped him. But I think you're right, big focus

1135
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 5: on cardio for this fight, and unfortunately the fight lasted

1136
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: one of a possible fifteen minutes.

1137
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: But you're right.

1138
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: I think going forward, some new looks would work well

1139
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: for Joe. Lo's on all right, So quickly a couple

1140
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 5: things on the prelims on FS one and you can

1141
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: shout out anybody you want to hear Kenny, Marlon Morice,

1142
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: excuse me by split decision over John Donson.

1143
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll get the Jimmy Rivera fight.

1144
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: You don't think mc manard's getting a lot of calls

1145
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: from women wanting to fight Tatsianosuarez Kenny, especially after what

1146
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: she did to Bibiani Paeda super Stage north Cut. I

1147
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: know a lot of people think eventually he's gonna work

1148
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 5: his way to UFC title fight. And I might actually

1149
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 5: believe that after what he did against Mitchell Kemionas Nina

1150
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 5: answer off the best she's ever looked against, the best

1151
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 5: she's ever looked, I thought against Angela Hill, So answer off,

1152
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 5: north Cut, Suarez, Marice, who gets.

1153
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: The love from the flow here Monday morning?

1154
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 6: How about all of them?

1155
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 7: I mean, answer looks answer, answer looked, looked awesome, looked

1156
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 7: very versatile on the feet. I thought she looked way

1157
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 7: more confident than we've seen her. And of course a

1158
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 7: lot of people with the American Top Team have been

1159
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 7: singing her praises, so good to see her get the result.

1160
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 7: Touchdown of Suarez is gonna be a problem going forward.

1161
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 7: Anytime you can wrestle at that high of a level,

1162
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 7: you're gonna be tough to deal with, So I expect

1163
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 7: her to be a problem for a lot of people

1164
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 7: in her weight class.

1165
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 11: Marie Shay Shelby where sas Shelvy could find the camera

1166
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 11: Shelvy trying to help the gay know that was that

1167
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 11: was nice of you, by the way, pointing where the

1168
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 11: can was.

1169
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, you know, listen, Maria's he is an absolute

1170
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 7: beast man.

1171
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 6: I mean, how about that for a welcome.

1172
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 7: You're coming into the UFC fighting those guys Junior sunsw

1173
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 7: in your first fight.

1174
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 6: Okay, I actually thought he did win that fight.

1175
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: Could you give it Junior suns some love?

1176
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1177
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 7: No, and a sun soow he's a beast, But listen,

1178
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 7: I actually thought he'd beat a sunsot. I thought he

1179
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 7: edged him out by a hair. But again, at anytime

1180
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 7: a decision goes one way or the other like that,

1181
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 7: when you get a fight like you can't really complain.

1182
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, Marise to come back and fight a guy

1183
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 7: like Dots and uh and look as aggressive as he was.

1184
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 7: I thought he took his foot off the gas against

1185
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 7: the Sunset in this fight.

1186
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 6: Not the case. He was.

1187
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 7: He was present the whole time he was trying to

1188
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 7: win the whole time. He was going for the finish

1189
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 7: even you know the heel hooks. He was completely out

1190
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 7: of position, but at least he was trying to get it.

1191
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 7: He was trying to get the guillotine choke. He was

1192
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 7: moving forward. He seemed like he had that pep in

1193
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 7: his step and seemed motivated. So that was awesome to

1194
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 7: see what a division that has become Man one hundred

1195
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 7: and thirty five, that might be the second or third

1196
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 7: toughest division in the UFC period.

1197
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 5: Might have the best top twenty if you go twenty

1198
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: division And all right, you got thirty seconds for me

1199
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 5: on Super Sage north Cut. I know we have been

1200
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: told by Tyron Woodley for years how impressed he was.

1201
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: I think this is a good alignment with Team Alpha Male.

1202
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if I should ask you how high

1203
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 5: the ceiling is for Sage north Cut, but at least

1204
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 5: in terms of this challenge and what he's done over

1205
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 5: the last eleven months, he is tonsil free like you

1206
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: are flow pretty impressive.

1207
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 7: I was very impressed with him. Listen, this is a

1208
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 7: guy who's twenty one years old. We have to remind

1209
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 7: ourselves of that twenty one years old. I was an

1210
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 7: idiot at twenty one years old. I didn't know what

1211
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 7: the hell I was.

1212
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: You were twenty one when he was born, I know.

1213
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 7: Literally, So the fact that he's twenty one in the

1214
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 7: UFC is unbelievable, and I think he's going to develop.

1215
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 7: These are the kind of fights that he should be getting.

1216
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 7: If you want to build up a star, don't rush him,

1217
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 7: give give him some good fights that can, you know,

1218
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 7: build his experience fighting at this level. I thought this

1219
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 7: was a good fight for him. I think he's putting

1220
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 7: it together. Well, whatever they're doing over at Team Alpha Male,

1221
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 7: keep doing it.

1222
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 6: You guys are doing a great job. All right.

1223
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 5: If you want anything else on the Norfolk Virginia Show,

1224
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 5: We'll continue that conversation all week on Twitter at Kenny Florian.

1225
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 5: Maybe you get a reply from the flow. We'll see

1226
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 5: better bet probably at John Underscore Annik in terms of

1227
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: getting that reply.

1228
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 4: But I love you all right.

1229
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: Well, another f S one UFC fight night coming up

1230
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 5: this weekend, Land down Under, Sydney, Australia.

1231
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: Let's make some pix. Let's get to the main event challenge.

1232
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: John Nick and Kenny Florian.

1233
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: Podcast The Time is most Camp.

1234
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 9: Florian.

1235
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 6: I finished fight. How do everything both?

1236
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: We'll do win the main event challenge to John Annick

1237
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: and Kenny Florian podcast.

1238
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 5: All Right, Team Florian led Team Annick eighty three seventy four.

1239
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 5: Going into UFC Norfolk, The Flow went head to head

1240
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: with Virginia local Kyle Harris. So Kyle texted me because

1241
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 5: he thought he beat Kenny head to head. Kyle did

1242
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 5: correctly predict Dustin poor Yer. He even had the third

1243
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 5: round right. But you did not beat the Flow, Kyle.

1244
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 5: I apologize. I know you listen right now with your buddies.

1245
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 5: You didn't beat Ken Flow. You tied four to four.

1246
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 5: Ken Flow. Picking up points on the Brown Sanchez fight,

1247
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 5: Gweta lows On Dodson made so the lead is now

1248
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 5: eighty seven to seventy eight, with just a few cards

1249
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: still to go before I get punished with a vegemite

1250
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 5: sandwich and joining us to make picks today. Another podcast listener,

1251
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 5: Coral Springs, Florida, Jonathan zate Check is with us.

1252
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: Did I get your name right? Sir? Well?

1253
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 8: I bet you didn't think you'd have a pronunciation of

1254
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 8: the week segment going on, but yeah, nailed it.

1255
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 5: Oh unbelievable. I didn't ask. I thought about asking for phonetics.

1256
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 5: I figured it was tough enough with our our gracious

1257
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 5: board operator Ben with Sosrik. Right, that was enough for

1258
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: one week? All right, Jonathan, let's get to it here.

1259
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 5: Have you always wanted a chance, by the way, to

1260
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: talk to Kenny floor and that is that a big

1261
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 5: deal to you?

1262
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: Or not necessarily.

1263
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 8: Very big deal? And I also wanted to tell him

1264
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 8: I finished fight, picked everything possible to win.

1265
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 7: Oh all right, well, John, your voice wasn't high enough, Jonathan.

1266
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 6: You gotta hi finish fights. It's more like that.

1267
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that in octave?

1268
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 8: All right?

1269
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 5: So UFC is gonna be in Sydney, Australia this weekend. Kenny,

1270
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: you work in the desks this weekend? You cashing those

1271
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 5: checks again? What?

1272
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: No?

1273
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 6: I got it off.

1274
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 4: I got it off finally a week Yeah you know.

1275
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm actually going to Shanghai for Thanksgiving, so I

1276
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: will not be there as well.

1277
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: We got four picks for you though in total.

1278
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: Today we'll do analysis on three of them, fellas, and

1279
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 5: then we'll get a quick pick on the way out.

1280
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: So first up, Elias Theodoro, the minus two to ten

1281
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 5: favorite most overrated hair game in the business. He takes

1282
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: on Daniel Kelly, who is plus one sixty So Theodora

1283
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 5: lost his last fight to Brad Tavoris that was in

1284
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 5: July eighth appearance overall. Here for Theodoro, he takes on

1285
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 5: the four time Australian Olympic judoka Daniel Kelly, actually a

1286
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: judo coach for the Australian Olympic team in Rio back

1287
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen and Daniel Kelly six and two in

1288
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: the UFC is coming off that to Derek Brunson. Guys,

1289
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 5: that ended though a four fight winning streak that saw

1290
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: him beat the likes of Rashad Evans and Shoeface Antonio

1291
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: Carlos Junior. So Theodoro the two to one favorite here

1292
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: versus Kelly Jonathan, who is the pick to click.

1293
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 8: So we have a battle of Tough Nations housemates here

1294
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 8: and Daniel Kelly's come a long way since getting bludgeoned

1295
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 8: by Sheldon west Conn on the show. I think Elias

1296
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 8: plays it safe here. We're in Kelly's home country. You

1297
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 8: tried to keep the distance and be patient, but Eliza's

1298
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 8: takedown defense won't be enough to stop the Judo a

1299
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 8: Dain Kelly. Every time I choose against Kelly, he proves

1300
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 8: me wrong. So let's go with the dog here. It

1301
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 8: may not be the prettiest, but Daniel Thomas Kelly by

1302
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 8: clear unanimous decision.

1303
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: I like this, John Zacheck, kid already. I can tell.

1304
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 6: You of these guys.

1305
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 5: These guys are like professional analysts. Hell, I gotta tell you, though,

1306
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 5: man right like you just don't like. You don't even

1307
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: need to make a case. If you're betting on Daniel Kelly,

1308
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 5: we don't even need sound analysis. I understand you probably

1309
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: bet against him at one time, and Ben Burned right,

1310
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: bet against Daniel Kelly at your own peril.

1311
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that.

1312
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: Being said Ken Flo alias Theodoro is the favorite here.

1313
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: Which way you going?

1314
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 7: Well, Jonathan really said a lot of it. I'll make

1315
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 7: it quick. Theodoro gets the clinch a lot. That's a

1316
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 7: big part of his game is getting to the clinch,

1317
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 7: using his strikes, not really to knock you out, but

1318
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 7: to get to the clinch. That is Kelly's world. That's

1319
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 7: where Kelly has messed up a lot of guys. He'll

1320
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 7: foot trip you, he'll throw you. He has crazy hips

1321
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 7: and I think he has the striking to contend with

1322
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 7: someone like Elias, So I'm going with Kelly as well.

1323
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 5: Unbelievable two underdog plays for Daniel Kelly. He's forty years

1324
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: old right now and incredible all right. Tim means business

1325
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 5: to that end. He is the minus one ninety favorite

1326
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 5: here against Ballal. Remember the name Mohammad, come back on

1327
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 5: Muhammed about plus one point fifty. John really like this

1328
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 5: welterweight matchup, man, I would imagine you do too. Who

1329
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 5: do you like Balal Mohammad is the dog or the favorite?

1330
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: Tim means Now, this is a tough one.

1331
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 8: I can keep this fight playing out in so many ways,

1332
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 8: but I think it ends up similar to the Randy

1333
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 8: Brown and Jordan Mean fights for Baalah. He's taking on

1334
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 8: the bigger, longer fighter, but his grit and toughness will

1335
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 8: be enough. So I'm going with Balal remember the name

1336
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 8: Muhammad by close unanimous decision in the fight of the night.

1337
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised to see some bonus money after

1338
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: this one. So Mohammad has been busy. Sixth UFC fight

1339
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 5: Kenny in seventeen months with the promotion, two straight wins.

1340
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: Randy Brown Jordan me and both of them by decision,

1341
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: both of them here in twenty seventeen. Actually, on the

1342
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 5: other side, Tim Means Business coming off of June win

1343
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 5: over Alice Garcia after that two fight series with Alex

1344
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: cowboy O lavera good fight.

1345
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: Which side you on, kid?

1346
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 6: Listen?

1347
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 7: I don't know if Jonathan's gonna ace the test here,

1348
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 7: but he definitely did his homework. I like it, you know,

1349
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 7: Tim Means is. This pains me because I'm a Tim

1350
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 7: Means fan. I love his knees and elbows from the clinch.

1351
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 7: He's gonna be the taller man, certainly against Baal Muhammed.

1352
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 7: But I think Balal Mohammad has figured himself out all right.

1353
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 7: He knows what works for him in the OCTGA. Now.

1354
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 6: I think he's now feeling like a veteran in there.

1355
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 7: And like like Jonathan said, you look at his last

1356
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 7: couple fights. I think they're kind of similar fights to

1357
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 7: a Tim Means Billal is gonna get right and Means face.

1358
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 7: He needs to avoid that clinch. It's gonna be difficult,

1359
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 7: but I think Muhammad gets it.

1360
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 6: Done all right.

1361
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: A couple of underdog picks out of the ShW I

1362
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: know Jonathan Pramona in the fact as he came, he

1363
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 5: came strong with a couple of underdog plays today and

1364
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 5: doesn't have a chance to pick up points. All right,

1365
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 5: man event for Bricio Overdoom, the prohibitive favorite here minus

1366
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 5: two sixty five against the plus one eighty five underdog

1367
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 5: Marchen to Bora. So Verdom, as many of you know,

1368
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: was to face the black Beast Derek Lewis last month

1369
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 5: at UFC two sixteen. Instead he got the day of replacement.

1370
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: Walt Harris promptly got the big ticket out of there

1371
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 5: by submission in sixty five seconds. Then a few days

1372
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: later Kenny he gets the call to step in here

1373
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 5: for Mark against Tibora, the Polish heavyweight who has won

1374
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 5: three in a row, last win for him over Andre

1375
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 5: Orlovsky and Singapore back in June. So Jonathan Verdoom tabora

1376
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 5: heavyweight main event? Who will it be and ultimately how

1377
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 5: do they get it done?

1378
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 8: I wish I could take the upset for you here,

1379
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 8: but I don't think this is a spot for that.

1380
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 8: We had one of the best heavyweights of all time

1381
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 8: who hasn't shown shown much sign if any, of slowing down.

1382
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 8: I think there'll be a bit of a feeling out process,

1383
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 8: but as soon as Doom gets a hold of them,

1384
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 8: he gets them down and we have a Walt Harrises

1385
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 8: type fight. Neither man breaks the sweat dpada for Verdom.

1386
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 8: Back to the drawing board from Martine three twenty three

1387
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 8: of round one for Brifiov caval over Doom by rear

1388
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 8: naked choke.

1389
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: Hey, horse baby, Hey.

1390
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 6: I like how he gave the actual time in the round.

1391
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 5: I mean, geez, we're chasing pois Ken flow. You can

1392
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 5: give us a time too, do you do you see

1393
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 5: it playing out similarly or what?

1394
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 6: Well?

1395
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 7: You know, ty Bor is one of those guys you

1396
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 7: don't want to sleep on right. Anytime you go in

1397
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 7: there overly confident, you gotta be very careful. And ty

1398
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 7: bora uh, he's a big boy man.

1399
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 6: He hits very very hard.

1400
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 7: He's gonna be a little bit bigger than ver Doom,

1401
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 7: a little bit longer.

1402
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 6: Of a reach as well, I believe so.

1403
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 7: For for Marchina, I think it's a tough fight for him,

1404
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 7: even if he's able to stop that takedown against Verduom.

1405
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 7: I think Verir Doom's probably the better striker. This is

1406
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 7: ver Doom's fight to lose. I think Duom gets it done.

1407
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 5: Let's go with so round A two, all right for

1408
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 5: Dooam submission round two, so potentially an opportunity for a

1409
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 5: point there on the round.

1410
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 4: All right. Finally, just need a quick pick on this one, guys.

1411
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 5: Jake Matthews minus one seventy five, Bojon Valichkovic plus one

1412
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 5: thirty five. You know Matthews needs this win here, Kenny.

1413
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 5: You know this has been one of the guys that

1414
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: they've tried to build around in Australia. He's lost two straight,

1415
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 5: last of which a split decision setback against Andrew Holbrook

1416
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: about a year ago in Melbourne. Valichkovic one win in

1417
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 5: his last four, so a big one for him is

1418
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 5: well went the distance not all that long ago with

1419
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: the Gorilla Darren Till That was September in Rotterdam, Jonathan,

1420
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 5: who do you like here? The dog Volichkevich or the

1421
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 5: favorite Jake Matthews at home?

1422
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 8: Gotta go with the home favorite, the Celtic kid, Jake Matthews.

1423
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 6: All right, the.

1424
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: Celtic kid, Jake Matthews. Ken, Filly, you going the same way.

1425
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I'm going with Matthews.

1426
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 7: Sorry, I couldn't go a different round, but yeah, that's

1427
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 7: that's my pick.

1428
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: All right, there it is Jonathan's day. Check man. Great stuff. Yeah,

1429
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 4: I get in.

1430
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 5: Trouble for saying Celtic I go Celtic kid, I guess,

1431
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 5: but heard great job. Nonetheless, my man, thank you for

1432
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: your time today. Appreciate you supporting the show. And hey man,

1433
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: you beat Ken Flow head to head. We'll be sure

1434
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 5: to have you back. So thanks for the time, thanks

1435
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 5: for listening, and we'll talk to you soon.

1436
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 8: All right, Thanks John, Kenny Fox Sports. Hopefully I see

1437
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 8: you guys in Orlando on the twenty fourth February.

1438
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: Thanks Homy, Yes, I hope so too.

1439
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 5: Hopefully the Flow will come down here, come visit his nieces.

1440
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: Folks were its own Florida's.

1441
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: Right, All right, good stuff for the main event challenge

1442
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 5: that is all coming your way on f S one

1443
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 5: this Saturday night from Sydney, Australia.

1444
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 4: Let's get to Ray long.

1445
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 10: Now.

1446
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Time for the Ray Longo Minute, and.

1447
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna push a hole in this.

1448
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 4: That's what I want with.

1449
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: The Ray Longo minute during the John Nik and Kenny

1450
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: Florian podcast.

1451
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: Is that you Ray?

1452
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 10: That is me waiting patiently.

1453
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: Oh you are a patient man, So thank you for

1454
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: the time. As always, my friend.

1455
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 10: Just to be clear about that, he does have.

1456
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 5: An iPhone six. Hey, So, so do you have face time?

1457
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 5: Do you know what FaceTime is?

1458
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 9: Ray?

1459
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 10: I've heard about it, but I don't put. I don't

1460
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 10: really participate, but I think I think I could pull

1461
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 10: it off. I see it come up on my phone

1462
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 10: every so often. I just refuse to pick up whoever

1463
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 10: is FaceTime in me? All right, Well for you, for

1464
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 10: you two guys, that face time will be flying off

1465
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 10: the handle.

1466
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 6: All right.

1467
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: Well, well, if you can can't get what's called a

1468
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 5: Wi Fi password and get on this Wi Fi system

1469
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 5: next week when when Ben Wassa calls, why.

1470
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 10: Do you have to complicate everything now? Well? Wife? Yeah, yeah,

1471
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 10: I mean what can you just call me FaceTime? We

1472
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 10: want we want to see next week you get in

1473
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 10: the full face.

1474
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: All right, can't wait, go tanning or something. We want

1475
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 5: you to look good. So next week you will see

1476
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 5: Ray Longo and all his glory on video.

1477
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

1478
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: This week you'll just have to settle for the audio.

1479
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: And if you're going to UFC two eighteen in Detroit,

1480
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to settle for Paul Felder versus Charles

1481
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 5: Olivera because raising ally A Quinta will not be making

1482
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: this walk.

1483
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: Ray, I know you've known this for quite some time.

1484
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1485
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: Too bad that Al will be unable to continue the

1486
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 5: momentum he established against Diego and make the walk here

1487
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 5: in a few weeks.

1488
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, horrible, man.

1489
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 10: I really was looking forward to that fight. I thought

1490
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 10: it was a great matchup for the fans. Two guys

1491
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 10: that are going to go forward and fight. And he's

1492
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 10: just struggling with some injuries, you know, and I still

1493
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 10: you know, he still comes to the gym, he's still

1494
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 10: trying to work through it. But just to get him

1495
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 10: through a proper training camp with all the different you know,

1496
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 10: facets that that are involved, is really he's got to have.

1497
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 10: He really has to be one hundred percent healthy and

1498
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 10: that that we're not seeing.

1499
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 7: Hey, Ray, I'm sure you heard the news about Anderson

1500
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 7: Silva uh testing positive. We don't know exactly what it

1501
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 7: is yet. It was out of competition UH drug tests,

1502
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 7: so you know, you can assume certain things. But this

1503
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 7: is the second time that he's been flagged. You know,

1504
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 7: it's very rare that a B sample is ever going

1505
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 7: to be different than the A sample. What what did

1506
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 7: you think about that news?

1507
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 10: You know, it's it's it's it's disturbing, you know, especially

1508
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 10: in light of everybody else, and you know, just listening

1509
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 10: to these Pool guys, you know, just bullshit and deny

1510
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 10: and they just they're just not true with themselves, and

1511
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 10: it's it's sad. It's not good. Everybody was looking forward

1512
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 10: to that fight, and you know, I get it. You know,

1513
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 10: he's getting older. You want to edge, but you know,

1514
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 10: unfortunately Min it's against the rules and you can't do it.

1515
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 10: And it kind of stinks because I really think he's

1516
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 10: blowing his legacy with this ship.

1517
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 6: I really don't.

1518
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 10: And that's where the story gets sick, because you know,

1519
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 10: I think probably the only people I care about his

1520
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 10: legacy or his fans, I don't think he really cares,

1521
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 10: and he's going to do what he wants to do.

1522
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 10: I think these guys get to a point they become champions,

1523
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 10: and arrogant sets in and they feel like they can

1524
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 10: do whatever they want. They're making money for the organization,

1525
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 10: and they're going to do whatever it takes to, you know,

1526
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 10: do what they want. I think you saw it with Kana.

1527
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 10: He didn't want to he didn't want to take no

1528
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 10: for an answer going in that octagon. So we wasn't berserk.

1529
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 10: And it's the same thing on a different level. They

1530
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 10: just don't they can't take you know, everybody wants an edge,

1531
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 10: Nobody wants to listen to anybody, Nobody wants to follow

1532
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 10: the rules. It was bad. I was very disturbed by

1533
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 10: and you know, Chris ford him twice. I thank Buddy

1534
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 10: beat him twice. But you know, right now, you know,

1535
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 10: I know my guys are all clean and they and

1536
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 10: if they did something, they're not going to tell me.

1537
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 10: But right now I can tell you that they're all

1538
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 10: clean and day day. I think they pride themselves on

1539
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 10: playing by the rules, and that's the way it should be,

1540
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 10: you know, I think I just hope there's not other

1541
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 10: camps that are, you know, facilitating this type of behavior.

1542
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 10: That that's what scares me. It's not like the guy

1543
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 10: doing it. It would be like me encouraging wide men

1544
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 10: aral Jo to do something, and I hope that's not happening.

1545
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, man, it's a

1546
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 10: bad reflection on the athlete. It's a bad reflection on

1547
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 10: the coaches, and it's a bad reflection on the sport.

1548
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 6: So Ray Anderson's out.

1549
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 7: Michael Bisping is in just a couple of weeks removed

1550
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 7: from his last fight against Gesp. Is this the right

1551
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 7: decision for Michael to go in there against a tough

1552
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 7: guy like Kelvin one.

1553
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 10: Hundred percent, absolutely, unequivocally the worst decision this guy's making

1554
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 10: in his life right now. I mean, and I like visiting.

1555
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 10: I think he's I think another guy is too tough

1556
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 10: for his own good, and I think the Athletic Commission

1557
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 10: should step in there and say, you know what, I

1558
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 10: don't know. You got knocked down in the last fight

1559
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 10: a couple of weeks ago. I don't know how New

1560
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 10: York's clearing him for that, but uh, I'm saying it's

1561
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 10: an unwinnable fight for I'm saying Kellsen can dictate where

1562
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 10: that fight goes. You know that guy's coming forward. You've

1563
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 10: see them steamroll over other guys at one five, the

1564
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 10: guy one hund comes to fight, he's It's just I'm

1565
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 10: saying that's an unwinnable fight for Mike, and I don't

1566
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 10: know why he would jump in on that short time.

1567
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 10: You know, I mean, Gaslin's got a cast iron chin,

1568
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 10: he got great wrestlings, greatness grambles, He's hard to hold.

1569
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 10: I don't know where he wins that fight.

1570
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: Oh I know where he wins when that direct deposit clears,

1571
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 4: I guess.

1572
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 10: But you know where he's gonna lose, though, John is

1573
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 10: when he can't see out of his eye anymore, and

1574
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 10: he's gonna regret it, you know what I mean. So

1575
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 10: I think you know again he's fighting the south forward.

1576
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 10: GSP just told you was he They kind of isolated

1577
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 10: his right side of his head, that's what they were attacking.

1578
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 10: They thought maybe had a vision problem, right. I think

1579
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 10: he openly said that. And now you're going against the

1580
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 10: south Port and he's not afraid to step in the

1581
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 10: pocket and throw, and he's coming forward and he's not

1582
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 10: going back with this guy, and I just think it's

1583
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 10: a I was a little like confused with that decision. Man,

1584
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 10: this guy's got nothing to prove.

1585
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we had heard about a rib injury before

1586
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 5: the Saint Pierre fight and the pain that he was in,

1587
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 5: but of course you didn't hear any of that from

1588
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 5: his team, and they weren't making excuses. He actually brought

1589
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 5: it up with us here on this show earlier today.

1590
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 5: But he feels like he is ready to go. And

1591
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 5: you know, I guess Ray, he just kept talking about

1592
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 5: the bad taste he has in his mouth with Saint Pierre,

1593
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 5: and you know, he said, my wife's like, hey, honey,

1594
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 5: you do it okay, And he's like, you know, just

1595
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 5: because I bite the bullet and do my media whatever else,

1596
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 5: Like he's pissed.

1597
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 10: Ray.

1598
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 5: He was the Middleway champion ten days ago, and the

1599
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 5: fighter in him just wants in some way to write

1600
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 5: that wrong, even if maybe physically healthwise it's against his

1601
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 5: better judgment.

1602
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, but and I think that's why I say,

1603
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 10: we know he's a tough guy. We know he's a fighter.

1604
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 10: You know, he proves that over and over again. There's

1605
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 10: absolutely nothing to prove. And at the end of the day,

1606
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 10: three or four or five hundred grand honestly, Betray, you know,

1607
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 10: like you don't realize this stuff. But when you get older, man,

1608
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 10: your health is wealth, that's the first thing, you know

1609
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 10: what I mean. So you can have five hundred thousands,

1610
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 10: you can have three million in the bank, and you

1611
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 10: can't get out of bed in the morning. You trust me,

1612
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 10: when I tell you this, You're not gonna give a

1613
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 10: shit about the money. It has nothing. You will beg

1614
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 10: for your health at any cost. And I think that's

1615
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 10: where I'm struggling with this. The guy has nothing to prove.

1616
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 10: I don't care what his direct deposit is, and I

1617
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,520
Speaker 10: wish he didn't care either, because I'm sure he's financially

1618
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 10: says it is. You know what he's doing, movies, He's

1619
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 10: got the analyze and he's got different options. It looks like,

1620
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 10: why do this against a young guy? How old is

1621
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 10: guessing him now? He's probably still not even twenty seven, twenty.

1622
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: Eighthes right, yeah, right around that tough man, that kid is.

1623
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 10: He's a tough one seventy.

1624
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just I don't like the's for sure.

1625
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 4: Yeah no, And I think we hit on a lot

1626
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 4: of good points there. All right, we'll let you go

1627
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 4: with this.

1628
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 5: Were you able to watch the the main event over

1629
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 5: the weekend between Dustin Pourier and Anthony Pettis, Yeah, yes

1630
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 5: I was.

1631
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 10: I Well, I don't miss anything that you're commentating on.

1632
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate nothing.

1633
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 10: I'm a team player.

1634
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 4: I know you are. I know you are, so so uh,

1635
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 4: what do you think?

1636
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 8: Man?

1637
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 5: I mean obviously a lot of different layers and angles

1638
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 5: to it, but uh, huge win, biggest of his career

1639
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 5: for for the Donald Pourier.

1640
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, great win for Dustin Pourier. I agree with Kenny.

1641
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 10: I mean, first thing is I always when you were

1642
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 10: a champion, because I you know, like again and he

1643
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 10: alluded to even Chris. I mean, all I could say

1644
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 10: is that it's hard. It's always hard to prove this,

1645
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 10: but it always comes down to mindset and mentality. It's

1646
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 10: more than the technique. But I will agree with with uh,

1647
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 10: you know, with Kenny with the takedown defense everything else.

1648
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 10: I mean, the guy, we know, his stand up is good,

1649
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 10: He's got great timing. I think Duke was on the money.

1650
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 10: He's got to put together punches a little better and

1651
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 10: not just look for one shot. I think when you've

1652
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 10: had some of those highlight reel knockouts, that's what happened.

1653
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 6: You saw it.

1654
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 10: Thinking you could pull that off any time, and before

1655
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 10: you know it, you know that the fight's over and

1656
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 10: and you know you didn't throw enough volume. But the

1657
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 10: takedowns against the cage should definitely be addressed. But man,

1658
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 10: there's something man, when you get off track as a

1659
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 10: champion and Kenny you were saying it, and I agree,

1660
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 10: and I don't know what the answer is and I've

1661
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 10: been involved in it, but even Johnny hendricks Man you can't.

1662
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 10: And again, I like Johnny Iamink finished that, Johnny Hendrix

1663
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 10: is struggling, you know, Pettis is struggling. Chris was struggling.

1664
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 10: He got back on track with Kelvin, but there's got

1665
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 10: to be something, you know. It Like some guys are

1666
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 10: like you know, good fighters. They become a champion, they

1667
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 10: become great fighters. It's not technique, it's just the belief

1668
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 10: in themselves that what they can do and how they

1669
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 10: got there, and they just ride that. And if you

1670
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 10: lose that belief, if you get distracted or you lose

1671
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 10: your focus in a sport like this with as many

1672
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 10: good fighters that are hungry to take what you have,

1673
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 10: you're doomed. And I think, you know, that was a

1674
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 10: big opportunity. I think it was a bigger opportunity for

1675
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 10: Poorier to make, you know, to to jump up to

1676
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 10: where he wants to be. And Pettis has already been there,

1677
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 10: you know, so it might have just been another fight

1678
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 10: for him that could have been the difference in the fight.

1679
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 10: You know, I don't think technically, you know, he was

1680
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 10: doing good and if he didn't pop that rib or

1681
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 10: whatever he did, we don't know if he would have

1682
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 10: won that fight. But it definitely wasn't the Anthony Pettis

1683
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 10: we were hoping to see. I don't think.

1684
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, my man, great stuff as always, Al

1685
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 5: Joe's got Ronnie Yaya coming up in Fresno. Seemed like

1686
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 5: he did go public trying to campaign for the Jimmy

1687
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 5: Rivera fight, but uh, Rivera maybe not taken.

1688
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 6: Huh uh yeah, maybe it happened that maybe it happened.

1689
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 6: Who knows.

1690
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 5: Ooh, I might have struck a nerve here. Kenny and

1691
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 5: Race got super weird there, guys. What do he say?

1692
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 10: Way, what happened?

1693
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,520
Speaker 6: I said, maybe it happens. Who knows, Maybe you know, maybe.

1694
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 10: Maybe it happened. I think I think you guys should

1695
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 10: do some research. I think that Yaha fight might be.

1696
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm on you know what kind of you guys?

1697
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 10: I was just trying to be you know what, I

1698
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 10: feel like. I feel like a snitch out on the street.

1699
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 10: Somebody they got to rely on the snitch. I don't

1700
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 10: want to be that guy.

1701
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 6: You're are inside man. That's that's that's another reason why

1702
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 6: we talked to you.

1703
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 4: Baby, Yeah, get ready next.

1704
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 10: Do some research, that's all I'm gonna sell.

1705
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna go do that research. And I'm

1706
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 5: asking you about Chris Wyman's thumb in seven days. So

1707
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 5: get ready, all.

1708
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 10: Right, okay, and I'll be I'm gonna tell you something.

1709
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 10: I'm so excited for this FaceTime. I'm gonna call in

1710
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 10: all my I T people right now when I get

1711
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 10: off the phone.

1712
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 6: We're gonna sit this up. We're gonna send hair and

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 6: makeup to you as well, right, hair and makeup as well. Okay,

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Speaker 6: A definitely.

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Speaker 10: That's I might come from it this next week. I

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Speaker 10: might be in a trailer.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Star Wagon Here we go, I guess.

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Speaker 9: Matt.

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Speaker 5: Matt Sarah does not double as a network engineer. Buddy,

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Speaker 5: have a good week. You're right, Ray Longo minute every

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Speaker 5: week here on the Anakin Floor and podcast, he sounds

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Speaker 5: ready for videos, So Longo coming your way and all

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Speaker 5: his glory next week. That is going to do it

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Speaker 5: for episode one thirty one. Thank you, of course, to

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Speaker 5: Michael Bisping for carving out a few minutes. Thanks to

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo as you just heard, thanks to our Fox

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Speaker 5: Sports team, I think most importantly for some of the

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Speaker 5: bells and whistles this week, and just for helping us

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Speaker 5: make this transition apply a vista. They get to see

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Speaker 5: Ken flow live and in color every week. Thank you, Janko,

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Speaker 5: Neil Foley, Ben with Sorik as well. We are right

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Speaker 5: back next Monday, fight week for Michael Bisbee. If you

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Speaker 5: can believe it, folks, Thanksgiving Week, Kenny will be in

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Speaker 5: Boston and we'll have another show for you Monday, November twentieth.

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Speaker 5: We will preview Bisbee gasl and get you and picks

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Speaker 5: on that Sydney highlights as well. It'll be twelve thirty Eastern,

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Speaker 5: nine thirty am Pacific, one week from today. With that

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Speaker 5: for the Flow up, John and thank you all for

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Speaker 5: being here, Thanks for listening for watching. We will talk

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Speaker 5: to you next Monday. Until then, yo, let the.

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Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters.

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Speaker 8: But is that a crime?

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Speaker 1: And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews.

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Speaker 8: In England, he go to jail for that.

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Speaker 1: Here in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen

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