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Speaker 1: Campus in Barrio, Hio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on

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Speaker 1: esp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bold Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Ziggura. Alright, let's do it live on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition back in the saddle here on Cleveland Brown's Daily,

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Speaker 1: merely bow in the Great z. We'll have some time

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Speaker 1: for some frivolity and and fun weekend as things went along.

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Speaker 1: But we do have some news here, uh in the

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Speaker 1: last hour, and I think you know, just from the

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Speaker 1: of this is at this point, and this has always

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Speaker 1: been and is frankly for us going to continue to

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Speaker 1: be a bit of a difficult talk because you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously we do this show in Brea, right and so

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Speaker 1: there's there's that it that's that is And until the

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Speaker 1: or if they do, I we don't know at this

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Speaker 1: At one o'clock is that uh, tony buzzby the attorney

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Speaker 1: um in in these in these women who are have

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Speaker 1: than an hour ago, Um that they have reached settlement

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Speaker 1: on twenty of the twenty four civil suits. Um, so

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Speaker 1: we do know that that has been the case. Beyond

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Speaker 1: be the case. We also know this at the NFL

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Speaker 1: spokesman Brian McCarthy on the settling of the twenty four

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Speaker 1: civil lawsuits said, quote, today's development has no impact on

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Speaker 1: the collectively bargained disciplinary process. So a couple of things

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Speaker 1: on this. There's a lot of this was this is

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Speaker 1: always gonna be incredibly complicated because what you are and

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Speaker 1: and look, you guys are smart. If you're listening to

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Speaker 1: at the Cleveland Browns. There is the NFL's decision on

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Speaker 1: suspension to length of how long, what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: All of that, There is civil litigation that right now

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Speaker 1: twenty of those twenty four and allegedly there's gonna be six,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if those last have been filed.

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Speaker 1: So you have twenty of the twenty four have been

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Speaker 1: It does feel like the other four could be coming too,

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Speaker 1: from various reports that this could be. And I would

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Speaker 1: assume that would be the case, that if you settled

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Speaker 1: he represents all of the um all of the alleged

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Speaker 1: looking for financial gain for wrongdoing. So this is that's

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Speaker 1: where this is. It's important, I think sometimes to remember that.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that before there could be the

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Speaker 1: NFL not before. This makes it easier for the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the Browns Watson to move forward on penalty for whatever

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Speaker 1: whatever the NFL deems was done wrong here. Once this

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Speaker 1: part's done, to me easy it seemed like it was

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Speaker 1: almost impossible for the league to penalize him and Deshaun

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Speaker 1: anything other than doing that would be as some sort

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Speaker 1: me that road to be navigated absolutely. And look I'm

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Speaker 1: I think the Browns would want that. I think the

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Speaker 1: So this is shouldn't be like an about face. It's

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Speaker 1: just what do you expect somebody to say in a

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Speaker 1: guilt of Deshaun Watson. The other could be said on

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Speaker 1: the other side of it, Right, they've reached something that's

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Speaker 1: like I get all of it, and I do think

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00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: we're ways off before you can understand these things, you know,

431
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: need to get in the motion. It's funny I have

432
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: not been to I've seen you've been on everyone in

433
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. I've been to a lot of dome stadiums

434
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: for college football games, NFL games, playoff games, and Super Bowls.

435
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: At no point, at no point did I think that

436
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: the environment lacked from being in a dome. At no

437
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: point did I think the environment was sterile because it

438
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: was in a dome. It didn't seem like that at all.

439
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: And in fact, I found that in most instances where

440
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: there is a home team and an away team, that

441
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: it is louder in those than it is in open air.

442
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: And that's a big part of home field advantage, just

443
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: as much as it is about the weather, no doubt.

444
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: It's the it's that part of it. It's the noise

445
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: part of it. Can you create more noise? Yes you

446
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: can in a dome? Fact, yeah, because it because it

447
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: stays in comes back. So you have tremendous engineering in

448
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Seattle that allows that stadium to be very, very loud.

449
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: But a dome is going to be louder always, period,

450
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: end of story. And I think that, you know, I

451
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: would love to have it be a dome where it

452
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: is a retractable roof and it's nice here. Yeah, you could,

453
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, work on having now troll grass in it.

454
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that would be important. I think that feels

455
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: very Cleveland. I think the play on turf would not

456
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: feel as Cleveland. But there's hopefully there's some way that

457
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: they can work around that and figure that out. We

458
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of technology now. I feel like there

459
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: are lights that we could put inside. Well, they could

460
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: keep your grass going. You can be just fine. Has

461
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: some sports group built the stadium in Columbus at the

462
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: Crew Now that is open air, but it's below the

463
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: water table and they grow grass on that. They have

464
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: these lamps and they grow it and the way you

465
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 1: go so you can do it absolutely. And I love

466
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: the Minnesota one because of the it's just so airy

467
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: with the windows, like it's just and it really sounds

468
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: great and for some reason, your vision is even better

469
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: when you're there. It's it was. It was awesome. I

470
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: think it's stadium perfection. And it's been around what that's

471
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: almost a decade now, probably right, six years or five? Yeah?

472
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Five years? Probably? Yeah, for sure? I mean I yeah, yeah,

473
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 1: at least I would say at least five years, right,

474
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: was it us? Maybe longer? I mean it's been around

475
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: built in open in and it is just spectacular. Yeah,

476
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: this is from here here was, so this is one

477
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: on social This is just someone who doesn't understand, who

478
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: has not been to this place, so out of town cap.

479
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: It's an open it has must be open air, naturally

480
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: let stadium, not like a Minnesota or Atlanta stadium too

481
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: dark either attractable or open air like l A. Uh.

482
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: First of all, l A the temperature seventy degrees every day,

483
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: so that's a big reason how they can do open air, right,

484
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: so that's a big part of it. Second of all,

485
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota is not dark at all. It's bright that stadium is, right.

486
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they even turn on the

487
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: You don't even hardly need to turn on the lights.

488
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: It's so bright in that place. They do just a

489
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: balance top is the sun comes through the top right

490
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: and the one whole end is with it's all glass.

491
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: So that's I don't even know. You guys were just there.

492
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: I was there a couple of years ago. But it's amazing.

493
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: You don't need it's bright places. That's really quite perfect.

494
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: But the ceiling is translucent, right, pretty good. Jump Yeah, no,

495
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: it's they got it. They've nailed it absolutely so boy,

496
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: we had a lot of business out of the gates

497
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: of this thing. I mean not a lot of story times.

498
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten into any story time. We've been

499
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: no story time. It's been all heavy lifting. The official

500
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: then is not gonna like that first half hour. No, no,

501
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: And she's with with Bryce right now. They're they're listening

502
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: after a great Father's Day weekend And I hope you

503
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Speaker 1: had one of the people all weekend for you, GiB A,

504
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, this was this was right. We didn't

505
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: want to start. We had tons of frivolity and jocularity

506
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Speaker 1: for you, a lot of a lot of work, a

507
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: lot a lot of heavy lifting that the big bees

508
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: had to do on the Tuesday. Then you'd find you

509
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Speaker 1: save much more to come cleve the brownze. In this case,

510
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: there is still an hour and a half of shown

511
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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland. A

512
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: lot of bad advice about gambling from secret methods, picking

513
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Speaker 1: a lot of your numbers, abetting big greener on roll

514
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Speaker 1: the mist can lose your money and get you a

515
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Speaker 1: lot of trouble. So before you wager to find out

516
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: what's real and what isn't it keep it fun Ohio

517
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Speaker 1: dot com. UH, nice weekend, boys, Good weekend, Good Father's Day.

518
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: It was great, it really was. Had a great Father's Day. Uh.

519
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: We were able to go and and had I had

520
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: a nice brunch. UM went to UH Italian. We had

521
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: a great brunch and then with the kids went up

522
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: to the pool for a little bit and we got

523
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: some swimming in which was fun. And then we came

524
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: back and UH and grilled and played some muker and UM.

525
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: Food was phenomenal. I had something that I had not

526
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: had before, and I'm curious se what you guys think.

527
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: So we went for for the Father's Day dinner just

528
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: to spice it up from the normal z A girl

529
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: steakhouse dinner. We got. I got some lobster cocktail, so

530
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: hys will have that, you know that chilled lobs for meat,

531
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: like a half a pound of that and with some

532
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: of the st Elmo's cocktail sauce. It was delightful. I mean,

533
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: they're they're not chopping up tail in there, So I

534
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: don't want people think that you're getting like a lot

535
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: of tail meat. Maybe you'll get every now and then,

536
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: can get a little piece, but it's mostly claus but

537
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: like good clause yeah yeah, and so it was. It

538
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: was really good. So we had that, and then we

539
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: had a little caesar Kazarden loves the caesar salad. We

540
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: had um at hydens. Have you seen those cauliflower steaks

541
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: where they're like cut the red, I mean the purple,

542
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: that's the yellow and the green. So I did all

543
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: shopping Saturday, so I took this. I think I told

544
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: you about this, the blonde Italian. I think it's what

545
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: called it's like a seasoning and it's like in a jar.

546
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: So it's like olive oil, garlic, all this stuff. I

547
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: did that, mix it with some clavor and chilies and

548
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: I just like doused it on those and let them

549
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: sit in that overnight. They were so good on the girl,

550
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: they're incredible. Then we all had steaks. We all are

551
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: different kinds of steaks because we have already loves a filet,

552
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: of course she does. Ms Ka loves the strip. Nana

553
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: had a strip as well. I had a big t bone.

554
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: And then of course for Bryce, we got noodles. So

555
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: we got the bucatini, the flower bucatini that they saw,

556
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: which is so good. Uh, put some mushrooms in that,

557
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: and then the sauce I had never used for I'm

558
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: a big truugh guy. White truff I find to be

559
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: just an incredible hot sauce and just delicious sauces. It's

560
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: good on everything. They make an Arbiata truff the brand,

561
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: so it's got a little truffle flavor to it, it's

562
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 1: got some real heat to it. So I did that

563
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: on the Bucatini. It's kind of like the little pasta

564
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: as I and we had a great bottle of it

565
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: was just it was great. It was a huge one.

566
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: We had a great time. And then my kids are

567
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: now old enough where they wrote like really meaningful cards.

568
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Both of them were incredibly nice, like I was. Bryce's

569
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: was by far the nice card of his career and

570
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: he even did a little drawing on the back that

571
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: was really fantastic. Yeah, and then Arden and his prime

572
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: as a card maker. Yeah, well he's entering, it's entering,

573
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: it's been there, and Artie's yeah she I mean, I

574
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: was crying. And then Bryce won't let anybody else read

575
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: his cards, so nobody else got to know. It was

576
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: just for me. Arden I think was quite proud what

577
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: she did that she was happened. So and then calas

578
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: read she's crying. Everybody's was like a cry fast. And

579
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: then my mom, the official Nana of CBD, must went

580
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: to must Have Gone like an arts craft store and

581
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: bought every Fourth of July decoration that there exists in

582
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: the world, like things that you stake into the ground, pinwheels,

583
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: you got wreaths fourth of July wreath, an old American

584
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: car that to Fourth of July car and all the

585
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: stuff that be like I could decorate my house, your house,

586
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: her house, so it all comes. It's all. I was

587
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: dying laughing. I'm like, sometimes she's like, you never know

588
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: what you needed, you know. Now she also Nana has

589
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: become quite an artist, and she did a painting of

590
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: our family walking on like our favorite path and Chagrin Falls,

591
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: and it's actually pretty good. Naficial is an artiste. She

592
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: is now, she's paying thousands of things. She did some

593
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: great Scottsdale escapes for me. She's good. I told her.

594
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: We went to Chagrin Falls had an art show I

595
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: think two weekends ago, and I said, you should get

596
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: one of these like boots and see if you could

597
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: like make a little scratch. I think I think she

598
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: could sling some painting. I like it. So the best

599
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: part was though that. Nana then goes, well, I got

600
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: you a bunch of these things, and I knew you

601
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't like them all, so I'll take the ones that

602
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: you didn't like. So as I say, like, here's a

603
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: thousand fourth of July things, you pick a few and

604
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I like to I don't like calling

605
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: it fourth of July. I liked calling it your birthday. Yeah,

606
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: for my birthday, for your birth very patriotic, like the

607
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: most patriotic person in the country apparently right now, which

608
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: is saying something these days. Oh that's wonderful. You do good,

609
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: You do good. Everybody you got what you needed. Yeah,

610
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a full day Sunday.

611
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: It was a full day. We entertained, we had a

612
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: lot of foods, beverage. My day came yesterday when I

613
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: played golf and everybody went back to work. There you go.

614
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: That's that's how I celebrate in the weekend. Monday on

615
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: the golf is pretty good. You get get a Monday

616
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: on the golf. A lot of people clearly had the

617
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: day off yesterday. I don't think anybody works anymore. Period.

618
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: That's where I think. I don't think anyone works anymore.

619
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I think everybody's at home. Not us. No, we're not.

620
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: We're here. Were doing the thing out there and we're here,

621
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: new route in here, and it's j I think I

622
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: snuck up on Jay. You gotta sneak up on it.

623
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Didn't know where I was. One thing I got to

624
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: add real quick my gift from Miss k which was

625
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: something that as we talked about, you know, there's something

626
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: good to be discussable, and perhaps I don't know. My

627
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: kids aren't dialed into exactly what I want. Your kids are,

628
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: which is really incredible. They pay attention. Yeah, yeah, it's

629
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: like they're in your brain. Uh we got so. I'm

630
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: a big who doesn't love a good zero gravity chair? Right, Yeah,

631
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: they're great. Love a good zero gravity chair. We are

632
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: now the proud owners of a zero gravity love seat.

633
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: That's right. We're both on their together, reclining free of gravity.

634
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: It's awesome. I've got four zero chairs zero. I don't

635
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: know that I have one. Fantastic is that like the

636
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: like the moon or whatever. They're like they're a gravity chair.

637
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: They look you know, they got like the favory on them,

638
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: and you get in it and it like leans back

639
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: all the ways. You're almost kind of like flat, and

640
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: they're just so comfortable and lighting area. You've seen a

641
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: billion of these. It's kind of like a lounge chair,

642
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: but better than a lounge chair. Yeah, and you need

643
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: to sit on it and you relax. It's got a

644
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: little cupholder. You can have your favorite beverage and just

645
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: like they're like like an outdoor chair. Yes, it's yeah,

646
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: it's an outdoor chair. No, I've never. I don't have

647
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: one of these. Oh my god, you should. Like he

648
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: set a couple of those up pool side and you're

649
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: just in. There is the King of the Castle sitting

650
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: in her zero gravity while boots he has his morning swim.

651
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: You'll love it. Oh, okay, I have seen these, Yes,

652
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: everybody's got I've never. I never. I don't have one,

653
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: But I have seen a couch. By the way, it's

654
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: a it's basically a double wide. So I've seen them

655
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: be for for like, I've seen one person use them.

656
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: Obviously you can. It's very comfort and cozy, and you know,

657
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: if you're a bigger person fit really nice. But for

658
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: two people it's just a real treat. I love where

659
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: this is going. You're gonna get one of these, I think,

660
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, it's great, dude, and I couldn't be

661
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: happier with it. We sat on it for a little

662
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: bit yesterday. Boy, what a delight. I like this. Okay,

663
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: now I see that they even have these like for

664
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: indoors or like recliners and all sorts. Basically, you can

665
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: have it indoor. You can say the first time it

666
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: swings back, you think, but you don't not you. I

667
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: like it. Uh had a good day, did um the

668
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting. So that Amy lets the boys pick out

669
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: whatever cards they want for me, and then they write

670
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: little things on them. Um, and my oldest, my ten

671
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: year old. I believe it was my Yeah, it was

672
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: my ten year old. Um. He picked one with me

673
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: as Indiana Jones, and I said, well, that's fantastic. There's

674
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: few people I'd rather be at Indiana Jones. And I'm

675
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: so thrilled to view me that way. Son, that's a

676
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: good job. Um. So we had that, had nice little

677
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: stuff on their nice little little letters, and had a

678
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: brunch with the in laws and then uh so people

679
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: came over play a little pickleball and such I had,

680
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: but one I had there. There are two big takeaways

681
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: from the from the Father's Day extra extravagance and number one,

682
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: all I really wanted as of sitting there and then

683
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: they're like, what do you want to what do you do?

684
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I would like for

685
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: you three to rebound for me and I and you're

686
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: gonna rebound, and they I just want to shoot and

687
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to chase it. I'm gonna shoot, get

688
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: some shots up, and you guys rebound. They didn't understand.

689
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: It was so hard for them because they're so selfish

690
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: with their basketball from the standpoint of they fight for

691
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: a rebound to be able to shoot it again. Like

692
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: they didn't even understand the concept of I'm sure you

693
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: guys warmed up this way when you were young. Until

694
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you miss it, you get the ball back. Yeah, they're

695
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: too young. And then once you miss it, you break it.

696
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: They give you a passive. You gotta lamp in the right.

697
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: That's the processs customary. They're not old enough this society.

698
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: We live in society. So I've had to explain that

699
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: to them in the last couple of weeks, that you

700
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: shoot till you miss and then you that's the way

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: that that goes. So explaining to them like I'm going

702
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: to shoot and your only job is to rebound was

703
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: amazing watching and play to Okay, so someone should have

704
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: had one. There was always one hopping. There was always

705
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: one hopping. Yeah. So I did that for like fifteen

706
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and it was joy. Uh it's been a

707
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: long time, it's been since high school that I've had

708
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: somebody's literally just rebound for it. And that's fun just

709
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: to get shots up. So we did get to do that. Then.

710
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh so we went to the club for dinner and

711
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: it came time to order. Oh boy. Um. So yeah,

712
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, the kids were really well behaved and um

713
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: and they always are at those things. I have a

714
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: high standard and very tough on them. But we you know,

715
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: when we sit down and we we talk and we

716
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: eyes up and we they order themselves like there's certain

717
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: things that we do and whatever, and it's nice. Like people, boy,

718
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: those they're great. Those kids are really well behaved. As

719
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: you guys know, there's nothing that you'd like more than

720
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: people saying that because it means well, we're doing things right.

721
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: So it came time to order. Uh. And the oldest

722
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: one did order a filet of course. Uh. And it's

723
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: funny he looked at me as he ordered it, like

724
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: knowing thinking that I would crush him for it, and

725
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I let it go. Fine, go

726
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: ahead and enjoy it. I'm paying for it anyway. So

727
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: it comes at the end of the end, comes to

728
00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: my order and I order a dry aged ribbi. Now, uh,

729
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: this is a ribby. Is my favorite steak away we

730
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: got course, so it comes time ye back to the

731
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: to the rib i real quickly. Is a question when

732
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: you go, if you were to go to the store

733
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: to purchase your own reby, you yourself, we're cooking, what

734
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: are you looking for the most when you look at it.

735
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I need a marbling. I mean I needed to have

736
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: that marbling. It's got to be consistent throughout the meat.

737
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Like the marbling. I like a big cap. It's got

738
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: a course. Yeah, you need a nice cap on that thing.

739
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: But that's then you have the marbling there. Of course,

740
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you've got that marbling that's all around. And I mean

741
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for that So yeah, but I

742
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: don't ever grill a dry aged I'm pretty good at

743
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: grilling steak, so I always tried to go something different.

744
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: So I went with the dry aged and then I

745
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: went with a truffle aju on that, which was delicious.

746
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: It was quite delicious. However, when it came out, I

747
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: knew as soon as it started making its way that

748
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: this was not what I ordered because this one had

749
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: a giant rib on it. So this was a Tomahawk

750
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: ribb I that was being delivered to me. So the

751
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: boys got a little lesson and how to handle your business.

752
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: So and the dry age ribb I was a certain

753
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: price point, and I bore them. Happy with that, more

754
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: than happy with that. That's what I really wanted. It

755
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: was good. The Tomahawk wasn't elevated, of course, substantially elevated

756
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: price point. So I said, you know, I didn't know

757
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: I didn't order this, But here's what I'm gonna do. Apologizing.

758
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: No no no, no, no, no apology. We'll take it back.

759
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: I'll get you, no, no, no, everybody else the stakes here.

760
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and eat this. I'm just going to

761
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: be charged for the one I ordered. Yeah, yeah, I

762
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: think that's fair. Right, Yeah. I don't want to wait,

763
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss out on this. I'm not

764
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: missing We'll just acknowledge that this. You know, it was

765
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: end of the night. I knew that stake was going

766
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: in the garbage at that point. It's eight. It was

767
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: eight after eight o'clock. It's not to anybody else's knee

768
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: or it's out. You did them. I did them a

769
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: personal favor. And the brown spot that gave it itself.

770
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: This was not gonna go. This meat was not gonna

771
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: land good for you without a plate. So to their credit,

772
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, this ends up being a happy, happy ending

773
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: on this story. They were thrilled to be able to

774
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: do so. So we had tomahawks is what we did,

775
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: crushed it and the where you go. But it was good.

776
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: So they got a little lesson in thought of negotiation,

777
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: the art of negotiation. Boys. My buddy had a tomahawk

778
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: for Father's Day. And they have a nice little they

779
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: have a nice little setup. Uh. They have a fire pit,

780
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, so you've got the woodlogs and everything like

781
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: an outdoor fire pit. But they for Christmas, his wife

782
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: got him the grill that goes top. Huh, So you

783
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: can literally just on top of your fire pit. You

784
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: can have at it from a food standpoint, and I'm like,

785
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: I think I need to start doing that. That sounds good.

786
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: I found for me firstly with the tomahawks, because you

787
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: can get them and they come and they're often thick.

788
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: It's a tough is great for it because and it

789
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: takes how do you do it? How you so just

790
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: submerge the the meat part or what do you do

791
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: with them? I get like that you can get some

792
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: like two gallon. Hefty makes a two gollon, like I

793
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: can do the whole prime ribbon, so you can get

794
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: it to fit. If the bone is upset, like if

795
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: it's an extremely long bone, I'll tell the butcher, hey,

796
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: take yeah, we don't. We don't need all this bone.

797
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: The bone is gonna part its flavor. We're gonna be

798
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: just fine. But so then you get that, but yeah,

799
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: get in the bag. And then it takes longer because

800
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: it's thicker. So I might be three hours at twenty nine.

801
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: But then you know that you can just get it

802
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: so hot and it's done, it'll be perfect. Case. The

803
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: hard thing with the steak that thick is to get

804
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: a char the way that you want and then still

805
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: have the inside still be waited to be right. Other

806
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: ways you might have a steak like we saw prominent

807
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: football report put on Twitter a few weeks ago, which

808
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: was an unmitigated disaster. If I don't even know how

809
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: to respond when people when that when they cook a

810
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: steak that way, when they want one that way, like

811
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: just have a hamburger man. Who was the guy who

812
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: We had a player in here who said that they

813
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: were going to medium and that was like a big step.

814
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: Remember that. That was this spring we had and we

815
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: had somebody in here and they were saying, how you know,

816
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: they had always been well done and then they graduated

817
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: to medium there sitting right there. I cannot recall who

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: it was. It was recent, it was was in the

819
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: last month. Yes, it was Perry and Winfrey. Yes, because

820
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: he felt like somebody would thrive in a medium rare world,

821
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: especially down in Oklahoma. He probably had an access to

822
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: tremendous tremendous yes, a lot of choice. I played UM,

823
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: so it was all obligations. All weekend I had UM.

824
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: We had a fiftieth birthday party from my friend Duke.

825
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: I saw the great Bobby cart there. He was there

826
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: in the mix UM just living his best life. Wanted

827
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: me to tell you hi. So I'm doing that. I'm

828
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: fulfilling my obligations. Um So, I had a great birthday

829
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: party on Friday, then we had a graduation party on

830
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: on Saturday, lovely graduation party. And then Saturday night my

831
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: oldest had a birthday party. So Boots, Beamsy and I

832
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: hit the course. We hit the links at like seven fifteen.

833
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: We went out there perfect. Yep, it was perfect. It's interesting.

834
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: I do believe that while I am not worth a

835
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: damn at this sport, I did hit driver for the

836
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: first time in a year. I had the driver. Uh,

837
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: it felt well. Most importantly, it felt good in the

838
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: days that followed. Um So, I hit three drivers and

839
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: you're back. I hit one straight, uh, one left, one right.

840
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: So it's a full, full variety, but most importantly right,

841
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: most importantly, I didn't. I felt fine the next day,

842
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: So that's a win. So I feel like that's that

843
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: means that I can amp it up a little bit

844
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: and actually go, you know, play eighteen. Um. But what

845
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: I am is, while not being worth a damn myself,

846
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: I am very good at assessing others issues, including my kids,

847
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: and giving them little tweaks to allow them to hit

848
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: it straight, which is great beams. He couldn't hit it clean.

849
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: He wasn't hitting it clean. He always hits it clean,

850
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: but he wasn't hitting it clean. A couple of tweaks

851
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: as pure as the driven out there boots hit a

852
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 1: twenty put rattled it in putty contest. Too easy, Dad,

853
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: too easy. Yeah, it was good. It was a nice weekend,

854
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: very nice weekend. We'll get into the golf, uh coming

855
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: up in the second hour of the program, because there's

856
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on on that side of things in

857
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: the US Open, in the Factor, it plays on the

858
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: on Father's Day ahead. So the art of negotiation, you

859
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: talked about the art of and you just typed about tweaks,

860
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: So I have a question for you. I'm also very

861
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: good at giving golfers a pointer that can that can

862
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: help their game. And it was a few weeks ago,

863
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: but here's the here's my internal conflict. A few weeks ago,

864
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: I was playing with jim Yeah, Jimmy and Jimmy fine man,

865
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: very entertaining, fell great golfer, great great human. I noticed

866
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: was just flipping his hands at the ball, and that

867
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: would cause him to hit these pool hooks or sometimes

868
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: he don't lag it and go away out the right,

869
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and you need you got to hit it with a

870
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: firm left side. You need to back. Think of taking

871
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: the back of your left wrist down the line through

872
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: impact and then you're gonna rotate through after. But don't

873
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: just flip your hands ball. You gotta hit it. You

874
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: gotta hit down and through the ball sounds great because

875
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: jim and I are partners that day and it and

876
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: it and it helped him significantly. Well yesterday while I

877
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: was rolling around four underpar getting my butt kicked. You know,

878
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't like this by Jimmy yesterday and then so

879
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: now I want to say, you give any of these

880
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: guys tips. Are taking all my my cash and then

881
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: he goes A said I texted him this morning because

882
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: I was I was pretty bummed after I lost this ship,

883
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: and I said, he said, by the way, there's definitely

884
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: something to that left hand you told me about a

885
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Onward, Yeah, there was something to kidding

886
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: and now you're whooping me, not really, but in the system,

887
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: but in the system, the way that the system goes

888
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: with the system. As we were talking beforehand, we talked

889
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: about this last week when you're on your golf tripper

890
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: when you've just come back like guys that are that's

891
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: too biggest swings with those handicaps. It's too biggest swings.

892
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Me can't have it all right. Jake Trotter will join

893
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: us at the top of the our assess everything that's

894
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: happened in the last couple of hours on the Deshaun

895
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Watson front. We will get into that. Coming up next

896
00:46:28,960 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: to us to clean them runs daily on fift ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland,

897
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900
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: learn more. As we said off the top of the hour.

901
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Right around the noon hour today, um Tony Busby, the

902
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: attorney for the twenty four civil lawsuits that were being

903
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: uh fought against Deshaun Watson, announced a settlement of twenty

904
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: of the twenty four lawsuits. Um Brian McCarthy is an

905
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: NFL spokesman, so he had a statement earlier today as well,

906
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: saying today's development has no impact on the collectively bargain

907
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: disciplinary process. Just me talking there, I don't necessarily believe

908
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: that because I almost feel like in order for that

909
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: process to really begin you had to have some closure

910
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: to this other part. And you get some of that,

911
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: uh with with the settling of the twenties. So this

912
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: this allowed. But just like everybody everyone, I say the

913
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: same thing. I know, we're not interested set ling. We're

914
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: not interested settling. This has no bearing of course, these

915
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: folks stuffs all all the pieces. Didn't you watch the

916
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: wire collected? That's right, all related, all the pieces matter.

917
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's where it stands on this um In

918
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: terms of of what this means. It does feel like,

919
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, this is going to be a bit of

920
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: a collaborative thing going forward in terms of how what

921
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: what a potential suspension will look like for de Shaun,

922
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the length of it when that suspension happens. But again, guys,

923
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: it's June one, um. Things have to happen on this

924
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: front relatively quickly. We are five weeks from camp so

925
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: you want this sce a minute, Yes, you you want

926
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: to have resolution uh soon, so that you can know

927
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with by the time that you get

928
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: to camp um. And and so there's a lot of

929
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: layers to the to that process. And that my hunch

930
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: is that those conversations have been taking place for a

931
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: little while now. So yes, those no doubt that those

932
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: conversations have been taking place for a while. Every thing

933
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: that we saw over the last the end of last week,

934
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the comments from the NFL, the comments from the NFL

935
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: p A that was telling you that they were working

936
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: something out and that I think the resolution is close

937
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: at hand. And with that, we headed on the hotline

938
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: for a visit with our good buddy Jake Trotter of

939
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: course at ESPN. Jake, actually, you were the first person

940
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: that that I saw with us, So, uh, you helped

941
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: me this morning on my other activities when I when

942
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I saw this one breakdown. Um, we're a couple of

943
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: hours removed from the initial news coming out. Where are

944
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: you now with this? And and how do you I

945
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: guess the next logical questions where do we go from here? Yeah,

946
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: but I think the question is what does this mean

947
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: or does it mean anything, especially as it relates to

948
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the Browns in the NFL. You know, the NFL told

949
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: me in a statement that I was going to have

950
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: no impact on the outcome of the league's investigation. Um,

951
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: the league is already nearing an end of its investigation,

952
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: and by Roger Goodell's own admission a couple of months ago,

953
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: now for a month ago whenever that was, so, I

954
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: would think that we're getting pretty close to knowing what

955
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: the NFL is going to do. Now. It is gonna

956
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: take some time once that process starts. So the NFL,

957
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: according to the CBO, was actually rereading it this morning

958
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: or this afternoon. Um, the NFL will make a recommendation

959
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: to Sue Robinson about what kind of punishment it it recommends,

960
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: and they have to do that ten days out at

961
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: least before Robinson will begin to make her own evaluation

962
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL's findings and insert her own opinion into

963
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: what she believed the suspension should be. So the NFL

964
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: is going to make a recommendation. Uh, they'll submit that

965
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: to the NFL p A. I would assume the league

966
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: is just gonna announce what that is. Um. If it doesn't,

967
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna get out anyway, because so many people are

968
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: gonna be involved at that point. And then we're to

969
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: have ten plus days before it goes to Sue Robinson, um,

970
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: in which case she then begins her evaluation. Uh, and

971
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: then it goes to the Commissioner. Um, you know, it

972
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: can be appealed by the NFLPA, which sounds like the

973
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: n PHILPA is going to do basically what I'm saying.

974
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: It's just gonna take a while. This isn't like we're

975
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: not gonna it's not gonna be like a Thursday in

976
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: July and all of a sudden this is gonna be

977
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: wrapped up. This is going to take a very long

978
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: time for the NFL and the NFL p A and

979
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Watson's side and the Browns to deliberate on and so um,

980
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: because sooner they start the process, the better chance they

981
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: have a finishing it before the start of training camp,

982
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: which I think is everyone's goal. Um, So I think

983
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: we could we could hear something, you know, next week

984
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: the week after from from the NFL's investigators. So is

985
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: there not a scenario, Jake, that would where the NFL

986
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: and the NFL p A, and Watson all kind of

987
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: come together and say all this is, We're all good

988
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: with this, and they can thus forego going to Judge Robinson. Yeah,

989
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: the way I understand that, Nathan, the only way that

990
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: would happen is that the investigators recommend no suspension. If

991
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: the investigators recommend no suspension, then we're done. It doesn't

992
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: go to Robinson, it does go to the NFLPA, doesn't

993
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: go to the commissioner. So, uh, there has to be

994
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: a recommendation of a of a suspension, whether it's one

995
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: game or seventeen games or whatever for that process to begin.

996
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: And again, we don't know, we don't know what the

997
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: league is thinking. I mean, the league could recommend to

998
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: Sue Robinson we don't think Watson should be suspended, or

999
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: they could say again, we think he should be suspended

1000
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: the entire season. That that remains up in the air.

1001
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: But it it's not like the NFL investigators, Watson and

1002
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell getting a room and come up with the

1003
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: suspension together. That is not the format as part of

1004
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: the b A. And that's this independent arbitrator has agreed

1005
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: upon by the NFLPA in the league. This person has

1006
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: a major role to play in the event that a

1007
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: suspension is recommended. Jake in in terms of twenty of

1008
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: the twenty four um when I first read this, I thought, okay,

1009
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: what about the other four. I'm sure that's what all

1010
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: of us thought. UM, I have seen some stuff this

1011
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: more in the in the in the hour or two

1012
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: cents to lead to believe that the others will be too.

1013
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: Where what is your understanding of that is? Because to me,

1014
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: to settle twenty and not all feels like it falls

1015
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: a little short. Yeah, so just to speculate a little bit, um,

1016
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: but go back to last NFL trade deadline. You remember

1017
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, we're looking at trading before Watson, and

1018
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: they did their own investigation down in Houston of the situation,

1019
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins were not going to make a trade

1020
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: for Watson unless every case was settled. And I believe

1021
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: the number they got to I'm about right, uh uh

1022
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: confidentness is that it was eighteen of the twenty two.

1023
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: So the same uh you know, same situation where there

1024
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: were four women who were unwilling to settle, uh, in

1025
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: that particular situation, which kind of facilitated the demise of

1026
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: the deal. Um, you know, because the Dolphins were, to

1027
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: my understanding, all or nothing. And so now we're um

1028
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: in a similar situation where twenty of the twenty four

1029
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: have been settled. Now I can't stay for sure if

1030
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: it's the same four. I do know that Ashley so

1031
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Lease was one of the holdouts last fall, and according

1032
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: to the statement that Tony Buzzby sent me, she she

1033
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: is not settling now either. And so I don't know

1034
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: if this is a financial question or if these four

1035
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: women want to be heard in court and they're not

1036
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: willing to settle no matter what that's that. I don't

1037
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: know about that, but I do know that there's been

1038
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: a you know that you know, back in the fall,

1039
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: and even now there are four women who have been

1040
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: unwilling to settle. I don't know if it's the same

1041
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: poor women, um, and I don't know if it's a

1042
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: question of money or these one these women, you know,

1043
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: want to go to court so that their voices can

1044
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: be heard there. So all right, Jake, given that we

1045
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: still don't know where we are from here, we'll talk

1046
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position that we do know. We know

1047
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's here, we know Jacoby Brissett's here, and I

1048
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: know that you have put out your fifty three man

1049
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: roster or early predictions on a fifty three man roster.

1050
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you you're making some news here today, Jake,

1051
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: because people are running with your you said, you said,

1052
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: and I quote while Cleveland could ride the season with

1053
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Prisette as it started. In the event of a Watson suspension,

1054
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: the Browns could also look for another quarterback, trade Baker

1055
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: Mayfield for Jimmy Garoppolo, anyone to help the team tread

1056
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: water while Watson is out. Is that just your speculation

1057
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: or is that something that you heard is imminent that

1058
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the Browns would be looking for another quarter I can't

1059
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: handle any more quarterback drama this offseason, So actually that

1060
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: that's just me speculating and or throwing that out there.

1061
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: It's something that kind of makes sense. Does that make

1062
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: sense to you guys? A kind of like, let's say

1063
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: Watson is suspended, you know, hypothetically, let's just say he's

1064
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: suspended for the season. I think we all agree to

1065
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: be very difficult for the Browns to compete for a

1066
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, uh, with despite the roster that they have.

1067
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: And because of the roster that they have, it's also

1068
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: very difficult to say, well, let's just kick the can down.

1069
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: You know, we're in Miles Garrett's prime where Nick Chub's prime.

1070
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants that, right, Uh. Brown fans don't want

1071
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: that obviously either, So you know, you have Baker Mayfield. Uh,

1072
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo would probably be the best quarterback

1073
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: that you could reasonably acquire in the trade. And it

1074
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: actually makes more sense to me from the Cleveland side

1075
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: of it than the forty Miner side of it, um,

1076
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: because you know, if they weren't ready to turn it

1077
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: over to Tree Lance, they would just keep Jimmy Garoppolo, right. Um.

1078
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: But but just kind of looking at like, is there

1079
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback that you could go get like that?

1080
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. But I'm not I'm not

1081
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: reporting that I have not heard that at all. And

1082
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: in fact, everything that I have heard is that the

1083
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: Browns are going to move forward with Jacoby Bristet in

1084
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: the event of a Watson suspension. Now, they could have

1085
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: a meeting once this happens and say, hey, like what

1086
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, is this what we want to do? Uh?

1087
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Is there somebody out there we should go get? But

1088
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: to this point, everything that I've heard is that it's

1089
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Jacoby Briscid that Watson is suspended. Yeah, I was gonna say,

1090
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that it makes sense from the forty

1091
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: side of things. Um is the issue, and that that

1092
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: gets to let's do Baker for a second here while

1093
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: we're on the subject of quarterbacks and all that goes

1094
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: around it. That's um that that's still a part of it. Um.

1095
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: The Browns, I'm sure view him as an asset as

1096
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: he is one and if they're going to pay him, uh,

1097
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Like the notion of them cutting him, to me, makes

1098
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: absolutely no sense to me, like they will get something

1099
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: for him via trade or else. You just honestly, you

1100
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: just wait it out if you if you had to, Um,

1101
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: but I don't. I see no scenario where they cut

1102
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 1: him not to player, for him to play for somebody else.

1103
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: So then it comes back to Baker's mindset. You've known

1104
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: him a long time, Um, could he? Because I'm trying

1105
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: to look around the league and say, where is a

1106
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: spot if you were trying to facilitate for him to

1107
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: compete for the starting job? There aren't that many, Jake,

1108
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: and I think honestly, like even Seattle. To me, what

1109
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: Seattle is clearly trying to do is go to the

1110
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: bottom and go draft CJ. Stroud number one next year.

1111
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: I think that seems like their plan. So take me

1112
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: inside his head a little bit, and what's he thinking

1113
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: right now? Would he be a backup, would he be

1114
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: a willing backup? Yeah? So I think there's only one

1115
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: viable trade partner at the moment, and that's the one

1116
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: we've all heard about Carolina, and they seem like luke

1117
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: warm at best, Like I don't think they've seen especially

1118
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: fired up about Thinker Mayfield be in their starting quarterback.

1119
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: I think they look at it like, well, Sam Donald

1120
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: is not the guy, like who could we go get?

1121
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: That might be a little bit better. And I agree

1122
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: with you bo, I think if Baker Mayfield is relief

1123
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: that it would happen at the trade deadline, I don't

1124
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen before then. I actually think

1125
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: they would keep him on the roster all the way

1126
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: into November, which would, by the way, be really awkward

1127
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: because he would have to be in the building. Uh,

1128
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: as part of the new CB. You can't excuse him

1129
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: from training camp the way you can from mini camp.

1130
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: He's on the roster. He has to be there or

1131
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: he has to get fined. So you know, you kind

1132
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: of come back to this, well, Baker Mason's on the

1133
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: roster and Deshaun Watson suspended, you know, and you can't

1134
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: trade him anywhere and he's on the roster, and he's

1135
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: in the building, like, could we revisit the possibility that

1136
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: he could play for the Browns again? And I continue

1137
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: to get the sense that that's just not anything that's

1138
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: viable right now from the Browns perspective and from Baker

1139
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Mayfield's perspective. Like people ask me what percentage chance to

1140
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: put on it. I've been going like point one, Champ.

1141
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: I might come up to point two or point three,

1142
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: but it's not more than one. Yeah, I mean, I

1143
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: just both sides have moved on. Baker's moved on. He

1144
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for the Browns. Browns moves on.

1145
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: They don't want they can to play for them. I mean,

1146
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: it's just not a thing. But I do wonder, guys,

1147
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: if if like we're, you know, at the start of

1148
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: the season and we're you know, the Browns are one

1149
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: in two and Watson is going to be out you know,

1150
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: double digit games, I think, and Baker is still on

1151
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: the building, Like do we do we start talking about

1152
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: this again, like I I would rule that out? Well,

1153
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: go back to I, I kind of would I would

1154
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: just say this, would you would you would do you

1155
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: think that he would do? You think he would be

1156
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: because it opens it up if he like, for example,

1157
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: like let's say Tampa Bay, and I know that they

1158
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: like their guys and we're just having fun here on

1159
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: a Tuesday in the middle of June. For God's sake,

1160
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: don't hold us to any of this. But but for example,

1161
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, would he be open to going to a

1162
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: place like that behind Brady for a year, because one

1163
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: thing we all know about, I mean, you know what,

1164
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: even better than we do. He is a force of personality.

1165
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't see him going somewhere and sitting behind

1166
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: Trey Lance or justin fields like or even the situation

1167
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: in Carolina. Like to me, he's gonna want to go

1168
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: in to compete for the job. And if he can't

1169
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: do that, I don't would he be interested in that? Well,

1170
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: I and I just realized I didn't even answer your question.

1171
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: All right, It's all good, brother, it really it really

1172
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: is not up to Baker right now. No, I understand that.

1173
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: But I just mean, from his attitude standpoint, just hypothetically speaking,

1174
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: could you see him wrapping his head around it? Yeah?

1175
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: I think so. I think I think he could go

1176
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: to Tampa and be Tom Brady's back up. I think

1177
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: I think he could be sold on that. I don't

1178
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: think that's his mindset. Like, I think he himself as

1179
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: a starter in the NFL. And by the way, I

1180
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best, you know, thirty two

1181
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. Yeah, he's won a playoff game.

1182
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: A lot of guys have not. Um, And he's had

1183
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: some rough moments, but he's had some really good ones too.

1184
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: So uh. But yeah, I think he could and I

1185
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: actually think that might be the best best path for him.

1186
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: Like very Mitchell Trabinsky esque. You go back up. You know,

1187
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: you read all these stories it's about you know, Mitchell

1188
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: Trobinsky and the Bills practice. Oh my gosh, he's lighting

1189
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: it up, and all of a sudden, he's starting for

1190
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: a team that you know, there's a scenario which the

1191
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: Steelers could be a playoff contender this year. Um. So yeah,

1192
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: I think that that would make sense. Um. And I

1193
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: think he would be open to it if it were

1194
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: the right situation. Um. But again, like he just doesn't

1195
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: have much say in this because it's ultimately going to

1196
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: come down to who the Browns trade him too, and

1197
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: right now is not just a big list of teams

1198
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: that are open to that possibility right now, no doubt.

1199
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit about what you

1200
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: saw out here mandatory minicamp. In the books, we've talked

1201
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: a little a lot about quarterback position, but and I

1202
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: think there have been some things that you see from

1203
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: that position you say, oh, this looks pretty darn good.

1204
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: But what if anything, Let's stay on the offensive side

1205
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: the ball. What if anything jumped out at you about

1206
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: this football team that we saw here through the O,

1207
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: T A S and the mandatory mini camp, just on

1208
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: the offensive side, Nate, Yeah, we'll start on offense yet. Yeah,

1209
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, David Bell catches everything. Um, you know, I

1210
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: think that they are very comfortable with the receiving corps

1211
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: going into the season. There's been a lot of talk about,

1212
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, adding a veteran receiver. I think if they

1213
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: add any kind of veteran, it's going to be a

1214
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: the fissive tackle, not wide receiver. So I think the

1215
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: offense is pretty well set. Really like what I saw

1216
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: at at Jerome. For the running back, they drafted a

1217
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati you know, a guy that could catch the ball

1218
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: maybe more than we would have thought, you know, an

1219
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: option out of the backfield, and that's gonna put somebody

1220
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: like the Ernest Johnson. We all love the Earnest, but

1221
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: you know they're not gonna keep five running backs either,

1222
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: so that that's gonna be an interesting competition. Um this fall.

1223
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: The other thing, I I kind of noticed that it's

1224
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: not like anything you would notice in O t as

1225
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: or minikids because nobody's blocking anybody. But I really like

1226
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: the depth of the offensive line. I mean, they've got

1227
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot of guys on the bench that have started

1228
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of games at multiple positions. And we have seen,

1229
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: at least since I've started covering the team in twenty nineteen,

1230
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: where they've gotten in some spots where that they've got

1231
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: problems at at offensive line death because of injuries or otherwise.

1232
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: And I think that their position pretty well. Um you know,

1233
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: if if Jack Conklin or Jendrick Wills or Teller has

1234
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: to miss a couple of games, I think they're in

1235
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: a good spot in terms of replacing those guys on

1236
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: a short term basis. So I like the depth of

1237
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line as well. Oh, it's cool about the

1238
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: ten guys you have making the offensive line room. Will

1239
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: Jeddrick Will's Batonio, Harris Teller, Conklin, Michael Dunn has started,

1240
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Blake Hansons started numerous games at multiple positions. James Hudson

1241
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: has made starts last year and he's only in the

1242
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: second year. Chris Hubbards started forty plus games, Posting started

1243
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: forty plus game. So you don't have anybody even in

1244
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: that room that hasn't played in National Football League. So

1245
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. I have a question

1246
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: for you. You know, you're talking about a Ford and

1247
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I think he looked great, and look, we all loved

1248
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: the Ernest Johnson, and I think that there's no doubt

1249
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: in my mind much as you said earlier, and this

1250
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: is me talking. I'm curiously if you agree that Baker

1251
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: Mayfield is one of the thirty two best quarterbacks and

1252
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: I think Garis Johnson is one of the thirty two

1253
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: best running backs in the NFL. And I think it's

1254
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: amazing that you know, in this period in the off season,

1255
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: somebody didn't say, hey, let's give this guy an opportunity

1256
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: to be our guy because we saw that there. My

1257
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: question was, do you think and I think there's something

1258
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: to really pay attention to Felton kind of started with

1259
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: the running backs, Jake and and I this is me,

1260
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: This is not these are not scores. This is my interpretation.

1261
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: Was Ford was obviously really good right away because Felton

1262
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: has been exclusively a wide receiver basically for the last

1263
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: what six seven O t A s and the entire

1264
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: mini camp. And I wonder if they think that's maybe

1265
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: his best path to make in this football team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and really kind of staying in the position he's

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Speaker 1: been in where he can be a running back. UM,

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Speaker 1: but you also use him out of the slot. Uh.

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, jackiem Grant is a guy that they can

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: use out of the slot, uh, in spots David Bell

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Speaker 1: obviously that's what they drafted him, you know, to be

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Speaker 1: a guy who works underneath the coverage. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the question I have about kind of the structure of

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Speaker 1: the offense, probably more than anything else's how much are

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Speaker 1: they gonna involve Kareem Hunt this year? You know, we

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Speaker 1: we forget about Kareem Hunt because you know, he's hurt

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Speaker 1: last year, but you know, he's one of their better

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01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: playmakers when healthy. And you know it's tough because you

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01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: have Nick Chubb there as well. And listen, we all

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: love the you know, the one to combination where you

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: wear down defenses in the fourth quarter. I mean that

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: was really the blueprint. So my point is like, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get Kareem Hunt on the field with Chub,

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's felt and kind of playing that spot

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01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: behind Hunt as a guy that you know, you can

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01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: move around a lot. That's kind of something I sort

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: of noticed, uh in mini camp a little bit like

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know what kind of lasting power that's

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: going to have, but kind of like a like a

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: backup Kareem Hunt role, um is kind of what I

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: could see, you know, from Felton. And this is a

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: big office for Felton because it's probably not gonna be

1293
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: returning picks or punts anymore, which it came grant on

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: the roster. So he's going to have to make an

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: impact somehow offensively because you know they we're talking about

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Speaker 1: Ernest Johnson. I mean, you know it's even if you're

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Speaker 1: the fourth running back, you can't feel super comfortable either. Um,

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: you know about your your job security, well there's a

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01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: lot to it real quickly before we've kept you for

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: a long time, a lot of great stuff. But on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side. One thing that jumped out to us

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: with just the back seven and how impressive that group looks.

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: And of course that's going to be more so than

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: upfront because of the way that this is a passing

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: camp and those those passing windows closed quickly. Jake, did

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: that jump out to you as well? Over the course

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: of mini campany availabilities? I think the secondary has a

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: chance to be the best position unit on the roster,

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: which I think is saying something because of the running

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Speaker 1: backs and the offensive line and you know, even the

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: question mark the defensive tackle. You know, you've still got

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: Miles and Clowney there. I don't see any weakness is

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. I got Grant delt it was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys that really stood out this offseason. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, he and JJ three, it's

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: safety that's very solid. Um. You know, they have a

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: chance to be excellent at corner with Newsome sliding inside

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: to the nickel, you know, an Emerson and Greedy, uh,

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, sharing time opposite Denzel Ward. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a very good unit. I think that

1321
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: they're going to have I don't think people are talking

1322
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: about them that way. But I think that they have

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01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: what a top ten secondary in the NFL potentially, Is

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: that reasonable? I mean, I think it could be better

1325
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: than I agree, Yeah, it's pretty special. Yeah, I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I think the secondary is going to be excellent. And

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Speaker 1: they've got they've got some good depth too. You know,

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison played a lot of games, uh, you know

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Um. You know Emerson, We'll see he

1330
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: can do. I think A. J. Green is a guy

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: that you know, going to be a key contributor. Like

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01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: I could see them. What the one question mark I

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: have is who's like if they have a corner injury

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01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: and you have to slide Newsome back outside, you know,

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: who plays the nickel? They don't really have like an M. J.

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: Stewart's type, right, That's the I think the one thing

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: they maybe on the hunt for around cutdown day. Um.

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: But otherwise, I mean there's really there's really not a

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: lot to want more beyond what they have in the secondary.

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01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: So I feel really good about that unit this year. Yeah. Same,

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Speaker 1: And I think right now now, if the injury to

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Speaker 1: the outside was to Denzel, that would be the problem.

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: But let's say it was too Greedy and he'd be

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: outside in the two receiver sets anyway or whatever. Denzel

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: would come in for it. Let's say it was to

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: Greg and he was out, Denzel would probably kick into

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: the nickel and those that you rations, and then M.

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: J Emerson or a J. Green would be on the

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: outside with Greedy in those three at right now. But

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01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: to your point, but to your point, that's those are

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: two guys were starters that you're playing every single down.

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, you need to have somebody who's just kind

1353
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: of right in reserve can come in and play the nickel.

1354
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: And I know Jeff Howard and brand Lynch are certainly

1355
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: working on that and cross training some guys. We've even

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: seen m. Jamerson get some work at Dime, which would

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: mean that he either giving him some work inside not

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: necessarily be a nickel, but could be in in a pinch,

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, like we were at the Chargers last year.

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, unreal who was playing corner at that points.

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01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: Really was great stuff. Jake, thanks for the time today, Bud,

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: love talking to you. Okay, good to talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Take here alright, that's our buddy. Jake Trotter covers the

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Speaker 1: breaking news. In the NFL, Rob Gronkowski announces his retirement.

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: Is this the second official tiremant for gron Yeah, let's

1387
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: have another Let's have another dinner full of chilled seafood

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: and then and then we'll pay for it. There's only

1389
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: so much you can eat, so we got at some

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: point you have to have a warm meal. You can't

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: just have seafood towers for dinner. It's not gonna apparently

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: we could have only if yea, if we want to

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 1: eat for free. That's what that was, which was also

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: not even like him. It wasn't also him even paying

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01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, it was make good like, come on,

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01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: let's call it what it was. It didn't even come

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: out of his pocket. It was about all the whole operation.

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01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: So Gronk posted he's retiring and he's done. In reaction

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Speaker 1: the Gronks news, his agent Drew Rosenhels Texas Adam Schefter,

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if Tom Brady calls him

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: during the season to come back and robs the call.

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: This is just my opinion, but I would not be

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01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: surprised if Rob comes back during the season or next season. Well,

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,879
Speaker 1: of course not like is it? Would you put anything

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: past those two now? Like even Brady, he has so

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: jumped the shark of being Brady, Like anything could be

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01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: in play. He could tell him he's going to the

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01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: Naval Academy and I'd be like, Okay, it seems like

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01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: that's appropriate. It feels like, yeah, I'm trying to find

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Speaker 1: what Gronk actually said. There's somewhere, there's a he's going

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Speaker 1: to play again, like here it is. In college, I

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: was asked to write about a dream job opportunity that

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to pursue and where the location would be.

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: Every time I had to write about my future, no

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Speaker 1: matter what I picked, being a professional football player. For

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01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: the assignment that we had to pick the location. So

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: I wrote that I wanted to play in Tampa for

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for many reasons, the sunny weather

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: being number one. I completely forgot about writing this report

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01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: until two years going to the opportunity to join the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And let me tell you, the journey

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: in Tampa over the last tw years is blown away.

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Speaker 1: What I originally wrote about in college big time and

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Speaker 1: for this, I want to thank the whole entire First

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01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: Class Bucks organization for an amazing ride trusting me to

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01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: come back and play and help build a championship team.

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: I will now be going back into my retirement home,

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: walking away from football again to my head held high,

1429
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: knowing I gave it everything I had, good or bad,

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: and every time I stepped out on the field, he

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01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: also didn He scored two touchdowns in their Super Bowl win.

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: I think he may have the friendships and relationships I

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: have will last forever. From retirement, back to football and

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01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: winning another championship and now back to chilling out. Thank you,

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: Thank you all tall Buccaneers fans, the crew without you,

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 1: guys know this as possible. All of you brought it

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01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: every game. Thanks probably due cheers. So what's next? Maybe

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: sailing the seas with the pirate flag? Are so its?

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01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: People are already saying he didn't mention the Patriots, but

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01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: I would imagine without headed he retired from the Patriots,

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: And I'm sure wrote tons of stuff about it. Is

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: he is? He? Like? Um? Is he Kenny Powers without

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: any of the bad stuff? Feels that way? But I don't.

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: But that's a pretty small sliver of Kenny Powers. No,

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good to Kenny, there's a lot

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01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: of bad. Well, it's a it's a it's a naive

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: approach to life. I think that he and you're talking

1448
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: about exuberance at naive Yes, like a small child. Yes, yes,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: And I feels like correct, yes and skilled, and I

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: feel like he is powers minus the bad. I understand

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: your point, it's a lot of bad. I'd like Gronic

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 1: to come back like exactly when Brady retire for the

1453
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: same amount of time and then be like psychic back. Yeah,

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: ground caught two touchdowns? Who retires? I did have that

1455
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: at a boy by the way, who retires right now? Yeah?

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: Why now you get stretched out? Six more weeks? No camps, No,

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: you don't do anything. Nothing to see here. Maybe it

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: is how long was Brady retired? Was he six weeks?

1459
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: There was only like two weeks. I don't know, but

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: I remember we were at the combine. It was like,

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: there's zero chance and he's staying retired. And that was

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: at the end of February that he was playing for

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: the Niners. Um Larry Ogan Jobi visiting the Steelers today.

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: We can't have that. We can't Larry Oh, he's our guy.

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: He can't play went to the bank. The Bengals and

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01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers post here um Chase Claypool thinks he's one

1467
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: of the top three wide receivers in the NFL. Well,

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: you're alone in that opinion, sir, I mean and Gibbe

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01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: puts on here and rightfully. So he's only one of

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Speaker 1: the top three receivers in this division. Like you would

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Speaker 1: take he's not even on his team. He's not the

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Speaker 1: best receiver on his own, is correct? You would take

1473
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: obviously Jamaar, Chase, Amari Cooper, probably te Higgins over him.

1474
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: I take Tyler Boy over him. Yeah, I'm not sure.

1475
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take Richard Bateman by the time he plays,

1476
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: by the time it's all done, I like. I like

1477
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: him a lot, So yeah, I don't. He is he's

1478
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of punk tendencies to him that he's

1479
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of punk tendencies to him. He does.

1480
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: I saw in Dominican su on ESPN yesterday. Is there

1481
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: some news on him potentially landing? He was like on

1482
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: NFL Live yesterday, Yeah, talking about the Lamar Jackson contract.

1483
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's you know, feeling it out,

1484
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: seeing if there's a opportunity there or not. Yeah, I don't.

1485
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know where he ends up. What. I

1486
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: don't know what the best fit is. For a little

1487
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: while I thought it was us. We could well still

1488
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: be by the time you get to camp and a show.

1489
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: If you get to camp and he's available and hanging

1490
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: out for him, I think you just wait, don't you.

1491
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: You just wait and see if somebody needs somebody and

1492
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: it's a place that you want to play, you know. Um,

1493
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: this is pretty interesting from the Ohio state side of things.

1494
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: So um, former Brown Brian Heartline is a receiver's coach

1495
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: down there. So yesterday he had got a commitment in

1496
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: class for the number one, no Number two receiver in

1497
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: the country, a five star receiver, Carneal Tate out of

1498
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: IMG Academy. Today he gets a recruit a commitment out

1499
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 1: of the number one receiver in that class out of

1500
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: IMG Academy, kidnamed Brandon Ennis. So he has now had

1501
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: five star wide receivers and back to back classes. Michigan

1502
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: has had one five star commitment in the century in

1503
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: this Snoman people's jones. That's it. They've had one. He

1504
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: said to why is he not a head coach of

1505
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: a college program, just an experience. I think he'll be

1506
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: the next head coach at Ohio State. I think when

1507
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: Ryan Day moves on, he'll be the next step coach

1508
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. He's got a great life. He made

1509
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: a lot of money in the NFL. He's got a

1510
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: beautiful home in the Northern suburbs. He's an elite recruiter.

1511
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: He has um he has landed a commitment from thirteen

1512
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: receivers since two thousand nineteen. He has landed thirteen receivers

1513
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: who are ranked in the top one hundred in the

1514
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: country since nineteen. That's this is Ohio State, Like they

1515
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: wen't then used to do this. You know, they've always

1516
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 1: had good receivers there, but it was almost despite themselves.

1517
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: You gotta about Terry Glenn, David Boston, but they didn't

1518
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Joey Galloway, but they didn't put him in a position

1519
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: to succeed offense. No, it's totally different, alright, by the way,

1520
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: in the time that this is from Mari Wasserman in

1521
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: that time. So since nineteen, he is thirteen the top

1522
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: one hundred players nationally, thirteen receivers in the top one

1523
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: hundred nationally. Ring that same span, the rest of the

1524
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: Big Tan is landed to combine too exactly. That's that's okay.

1525
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: So this is the thing. College football is an unbelievable sport.

1526
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: It is probably the second best sport, I would say,

1527
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: going today, it's definitely the second healthiest. Yeah, but it

1528
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: is inherently unfair in the sense that it is if

1529
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: you would say it's fair, but we all know it's

1530
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: not necessarily fair, but like it is dominated by a

1531
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: ruling class that will be and it changes because for

1532
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: a while, you'd say, it's inconceivable that USC is not

1533
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the mountain. It's inconceivable the Notre

1534
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: Dame would not be, you know, an elite program, and

1535
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: yet you know here we are does go sicklically. But

1536
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: like right now, you know Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, and

1537
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: then there's usually one that rotates yours in Oklahoma, l

1538
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: s U, USC maybe trying to get back there, right.

1539
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I will say this, the sport has

1540
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 1: never had this much imbalance in the twenty years that

1541
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: I've been a on big time college football. It has

1542
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: never been there. In all of us are men were

1543
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: forty in our lifetime, Washington, Georgia Tech, Colorado when we

1544
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: were really little. B y U that all of these

1545
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: teams won national championships. Nebraska, Miami, Florida State, Florida. Look

1546
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: at all the teams that won national titles during during

1547
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 1: from night to we haven't had a new national champion.

1548
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I have this right. I don't think

1549
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: we've had a new national championship since Florida have not

1550
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: had a new national champion. It's been the same teams

1551
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And since going to

1552
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: the playoff era, it's been even more. It's the same

1553
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: four or five teams playing in it. It's Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson,

1554
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: l s U, Oklahoma, those five. I mean, Michigan State

1555
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: got in there twice, Washington once, but they don't get

1556
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: to the chipper. Notre Dame once, but they don't get

1557
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: to the chipper. Like that's the chipper is residing for

1558
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: those teams. It's great, we've never had this big of

1559
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: a gap, which which if I am a if I

1560
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: am a quote mid major, I understand how important football is,

1561
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: but maybe you should start putting your money into something

1562
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: that you know that you can contend to know. What

1563
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: they should do is they should put their money into

1564
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: actually being a subdivision of this. And you're talking to

1565
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about bowling green and stuff. Right, I'm saying,

1566
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: you don't need to play Division one football. You need

1567
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: to play what used to be Old one Double A

1568
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: and you play against the nonpower fives. That's what should be.

1569
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: And you could still play up and go play Ohio

1570
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: State and get your paycheck, but you should also compete

1571
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: for your own thing. Makes no sense for them to

1572
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: be playing in this type of game. Here's what's it's great.

1573
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: Here's so back to your point, which I think is

1574
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: so crazy about this. So you've got the first year

1575
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: was Ohio State one and they beat Oregon. Okay, that's

1576
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: the last time you're gonna hear Oregan's name. Alabama beats Clemson,

1577
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Clemson beats Alabama, Alabama beats Georgia, Clemson beats Alabama. LS

1578
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: you beats Clemson. That's the only time you're even gonna

1579
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,919
Speaker 1: hear l s U. Alabama beats Ohio State, Georgia beats Alabama.

1580
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: I mean, like, and that's at least the cool thing

1581
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,440
Speaker 1: to be at least about college basketball, you get variations.

1582
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: Small schools can go on crazy runs and win it all.

1583
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: This is basically we have an NFL feeder conference in

1584
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: the SEC. Yeah, we've got Ohio State is the non

1585
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 1: SEC outline. Do you take Clemson as well? There are

1586
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: some four times and they're a SEC, but to me,

1587
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: because they're in the South geographically, it feels like they're

1588
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: still like in that same area. And that's it. So

1589
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: in the last couple of recruiting cycles, the less two

1590
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: or three recruiting cycles, Ohio State, Obama, and Georgia those

1591
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: three schools. This last one was one that's different cause

1592
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: A and M paid the class and they had a

1593
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: huge class. But up until this last one, those three

1594
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: schools had more Top one players than everybody else combined.

1595
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: That's how much talent was in those three programs over

1596
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: the over the course last four or five years. It's

1597
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you could honestly argue a high state's underachieved,

1598
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: and I think it's fair. It's based on the talent

1599
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: that they only have won two titles in twenty years

1600
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: with all of the talent that's and in this era

1601
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: one title and one second and that's it. That's it.

1602
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: And the title that they won was third string quarterback.

1603
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it was took a lot to make it happen, um,

1604
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, you could argue that they've underachieved. I was

1605
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: going to say, has it gotten to the point now

1606
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: where if you don't win the championship it's considered a

1607
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 1: failed season, not just this year, this year for Ohio

1608
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: State a hundred percent, it is with everybody that they

1609
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: have coming back, it is if they don't. This is

1610
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: a national championship team. The best team they've had that

1611
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: didn't win it since I've been here was two thousand

1612
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: was the Justin Fields freshman year when they had him,

1613
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: Chase Young, j K. Dobbins, they had three Heisman finalists,

1614
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: and they lost to Clemson. There were ten things that

1615
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: had to happen for Clemson to win, and they all

1616
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: of them didn't. Then Clemson and up losing to Borrow

1617
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: in l s U. Not to say they would have

1618
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: beaten l s U. But that was the best Ohio

1619
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: State team that didn't. But the crazy thing about them

1620
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: is that their best teams don't win it. To that

1621
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: most talented teams two thousand fifteen, two thousand five, two

1622
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen they're best teams, don't win it. The two

1623
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: best teams in ohigest state in the last forty years

1624
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: are not O two and fourteen, but they're the two

1625
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: that won the national title. Um, all right, real quick

1626
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: on the U s Open. You you wanted off of

1627
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 1: Father's Day, I don't want. I don't like the Father's

1628
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Day like I'm in the middle of I'm in the

1629
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: middle of hosting, yeah everything, and Saturday, I've got other obligations.

1630
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: I was out of town weather. It's perfect. I'm getting

1631
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: out of the house. I'm not sitting in front of

1632
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: a TV. Do it the weekend after do it at

1633
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: another point. But Father's Day weekend US Open doesn't doesn't

1634
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: make sense to me. So I like it on Thursday

1635
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: and Friday, Saturday, I did not watch much of it

1636
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: at all, be perfectly honest. And they had a on

1637
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like And then I pulled out the

1638
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: outdoor TV. Sundays, I said, we went to the pool

1639
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: in the night. When we came home, I said, I

1640
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: want to I just want to watch like the back

1641
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: nine of the US Open to watch And that was frankly,

1642
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: that's all I needed to watch. The You don't need

1643
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: to watch anymore when the weather's this nice, don't you see, folks,

1644
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: when people rail on like sports fans in the South,

1645
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 1: This Sunday is there every day, gorgeous. They don't want

1646
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: to sit in front of a TV for twelve hours

1647
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: and watch a golf tournament. You want to watch the

1648
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: stuff that matters. At the end, um, I thought I

1649
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: loved it. I thought that the star of the whole

1650
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: thing was the course. I thought the course was the

1651
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: star of it. I thought it was better than any

1652
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: individual player. I loved that. I thought it was thrilling

1653
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: with the three of those guys in the final. Uh,

1654
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: for a second, Mattsu Yama was gonna make a run

1655
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: at it with when he posted three, and he was

1656
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe gonna get to four. Rory never got to going.

1657
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: But I thought those other three guys all showed a

1658
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: ton of guts. But I thought the course was a star.

1659
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: I loved seeing them having to wear like pullovers. I

1660
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: love the idea of I didn't no idea. I haven't

1661
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: seen the country club in so long. I didn't realize

1662
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: that ty of undulation. It looked so creative, it looked

1663
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 1: so cool. I loved it. I thought it was absolutely.

1664
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: By the way, do you know what's up next at St. Andrews.

1665
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, it is.

1666
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: Um Brooks kept kept it to live. Of course, I

1667
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: believe we had that. By the way, I believe we

1668
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: had the final score. I think I said exactly six

1669
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: on the seven you had seven, you had five. So

1670
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: we were all right there. But what at the time

1671
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: we did it. I think the leader was either five

1672
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: or six. It was right there, and we thought that

1673
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: was on Friday. That was Friday, and so even part

1674
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: did it throughout the weekend. It does feel like Brooks

1675
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: to Live is a tipping point for the sport. I

1676
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: do think that he has, because now you're talking about it.

1677
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: If you were to say, like the most important players

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01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: on tour before Live, you would say McElroy, Thomas, rom Um,

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Speaker 1: who else that's still but that's it. What you did

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01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: is where I was gonna go next would have been

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01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: those three, and it would have been DJ deshambo Kepka.

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01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: Those six feel like the most important and Phil I

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01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: mean Tiger, but Tiger's not really playing so then there

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01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: then you get into the second group, which is like

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01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: the Morikawas Scheffler's and those guys are on the come,

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: but they're not who these guys are. They're not the

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01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: stars of the sport. Yet everybody who's upset And did

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you see Charles Barkley's comment, Charles, he's unbelievable. Did you

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01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 1: see that, GiB I feel like that's something you would

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: have said. Barkley said, for twitter million dollars, he'd kill

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Speaker 1: somebody in his family. Basically, like anybody right now working

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01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: in their current job, if they said to you, I

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01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: am going to guarantee that I your pay ten x is, quadruples, doubles, triples,

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01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 1: any of these multiples, and you are going to work

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01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: a fifth of the time. Is often you're gonna make

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01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: ten times more. Who says note to that? No, yeah,

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01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean what they were pushing was this, you know,

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01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: the blood money, deal with the devil, all of that stuff,

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: which makes this also interesting. But everybody, everybody, Yes, they

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01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 1: all and they all have a price on that stuff.

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: And the only thing that I think would be interesting

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01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: is if in the back of my head I would say,

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01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 1: but this is so much financial gain that it's hard

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01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: to imagine. But the only thing you thought is like,

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01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: if they ever get bored of this and they're like, yeah,

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01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: we tried this. It didn't really work for us. But

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01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: maybe they don't like grinding town to town and going

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01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 1: to Why would they want to You're playing eight events.

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01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: You can still play the majors, Yes, until the major

1710
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: state and I don't think they will. Definitely Augustine British won't.

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01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: By the way, if they do, it tarnishes the majors

1712
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: because they have the best fields. You gotta have the

1713
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: best fields. You got have the best golfers in the

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: world competing for the best in the best events. I'll

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: tell you what, Firestone. I have nothing to back this up,

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01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: but Firestone a live event. What's stopping them sitting there?

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01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: I believe you and I talked. We talked about it

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01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks ago. Give a why not?

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01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: Like I get that you've got this senior event, but

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01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: if you can bring these guys in, yeah, for sure.

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01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: PJ is not knocking on your door. No is Miguel

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01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: and hell him and is going on the live because

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01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that would be the one you'd want. Abraham answer did

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: too this after day. That was one of my that's

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01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: one of my favorite stories from the from the Ken Stewarts,

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: the original Stuarts. I was we had a dinner there

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01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: um in the bar underneath the big Steed, the big

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Speaker 1: brown spot in there that they have the PA and

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01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: all the European guys are miguelan Heim Andez, all of

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Speaker 1: them back. This is when the fire Centerum, what was

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: happening and uh we ended up talking to them and

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01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: sharing quite a good time together. Shock and Miguel and

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01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: hell Heimonez is everything you'd want them to be, perfect

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Speaker 1: and more so much more to come. Cleve the Broa's

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