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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. This is part two of

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Speaker 1: what will be a continuing series. We got very, very

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Speaker 1: by the idea of inventors who died by their own inventions.

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Speaker 1: We thought it would be one episode, it might be

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Speaker 1: a series. We thought we would do just one episode

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Speaker 1: on all the people who died trying to fly. But

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Speaker 1: here we are shout out to super producer Max Williams.

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Speaker 1: Here we are an old It's part two. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people died trying to fly. Oh yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: two also, I would jump in this might be very

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Speaker 1: morbid because I've already flown out by on vacation by

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Speaker 1: of people who died trying to fly keep going. I

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Speaker 1: want to introduce a tailor to you now, folks. Tailor

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Speaker 1: not an airplane but his own invention, which he called

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Speaker 1: the coat parachute. He jumped off the first deck of

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Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower. H This guy was fascinated by the

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Speaker 1: Is this like an inspector gadget kind of situation? Like

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Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it kind of seems like it like

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Speaker 1: And there were already parachutes that worked for high altitudes,

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Speaker 1: I picture him talking the ear off of his customers

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Speaker 1: later in this episode, as you might imagine, and he

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Speaker 1: they're a daily driver because they don't have a time.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They'd be like go kart prices. Now they're

425
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: street legal, questionably so, but yeah, they're like it's as

426
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: much as like a sedan, A little bit of a

427
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: flex for sure. And here's how popular the Here's how

428
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: popular Smlinsky's vehicle was. It was going to be featured

429
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: in a James Bond film, The Man with the Golden

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00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: Gun four and that same year was featured. It was

431
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: going to hit dealerships and if you wanted to buy

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00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: one of these Ford Pinto Cessna's, it's if you wanted

433
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: to buy this, you would pay about eighteen thousand, three

434
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for the bottom of the barrel, all the

435
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: way up to twenty nine thousand dollars with all the

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Speaker 1: bells and whistles. At this point, it is time for

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Speaker 1: our inflation calculator. We got some boops, we've got some beeps.

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Speaker 1: Keep a boo boo, boop bee doop wonderful. That is

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00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: our inflation calculator. Eighteen thousand, three hundred dollars in nineteen

440
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: seventy four is about one hundred and eight thousand, one

441
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three dollars and seventy four cents today.

442
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a cheap skate, but

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00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot for a car. I have

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Speaker 1: a question. I mean, I don't know, I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: a question, and I think no one in the history

446
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: of question asking has ever asked why does there have

447
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: to be inflation? Why can't things just stay the same? Man?

448
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: Is it about population increase and demand on resources and whatnot?

449
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: Just because capitalism is a Ponzi scheme that will ultimately

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00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: collapse on itself. These are good questions. Yeah, yeah, it's

451
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: sort of like why, you know, like companies have to

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00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: show year over year growth or else. You know, like

453
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: there comes a point where how is that even possible?

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean it is. They they'll make

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Speaker 1: it possible, or they'll do it with like creative accounting um.

456
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: But it's just it does seem like a like a

457
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Speaker 1: losing proposition at the end of the day unless you're

458
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: in podcasting. Okay, yeah, we we gotta show growth. To man,

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00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: the boss will be looking at those numbers. Not jeez,

460
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: not jeez. Uh. Well, at least we're not selling Honda

461
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Odyssey's So everything is everything is perfect for Smolinsky and co.

462
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Right now, it's nineteen seventy three. Nineteen seventy four is

463
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a big year. Everybody's excited. They're doing the

464
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: test flights. Stuff is looking pretty legit until late August

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Speaker 1: ninet seventy three there's a pilot named Charles Genie, and

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Speaker 1: Charles says, okay, I'm on this test flight and right

467
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: wing strut attachment has disconnected. The wing is unsupported. It's

468
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: just flapping around like the ario knots of old. You

469
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: know that the flappity flappity leads to the splattit e splattity.

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Speaker 1: So he says, I can't turn this with the flappity wing.

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Speaker 1: You guys need to look at this. This is a

472
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Speaker 1: serious design problem. So Spellisky and Blake look at it.

473
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Speaker 1: They do take this seriously. They fixed the strut and

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Speaker 1: they give it a once over. They take it out

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00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: again just a few weeks later, and respect to them

476
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Speaker 1: because they didn't want to endanger anybody else's life. They

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Speaker 1: did to your earlier point self experimentation. Unfortunately, they were

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Speaker 1: not able to fully fix the issue. The support failed

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00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: once again. Wind Smolinsky himself as the islet tried to

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00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: make a turn that right wing crumpled, the whole agglomeration

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Speaker 1: of the Pinto and the Cessna crashed. Both men died.

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Speaker 1: These are just a few of the people, not only

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Speaker 1: inventors who died due to their own inventions, but just

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Speaker 1: a few of the people who died trying to fly.

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00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: So every time you are on an airplane, and one

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: of us is going to be on an airplane very soon,

487
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: every time you're on an airplane, thank those people. Thank

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00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: you for that. Wait, I was like, is it, Oh yeah, Max,

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00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: vacationero phobia. Hey, speaking of landing, I'll send you this

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00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Instagram video that'll that'll put your your fears at ease.

491
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: I saw the most remarkable, just absolute bork landing of

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Speaker 1: a commercial flight on Instagram. It's like the thing it's

493
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: just coming in at this absurd angle and it hits.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't explode, it just flips over and skids upside down.

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00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: To a stop. I don't think anyone died, but like,

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Speaker 1: what what terror? Can you imagine the terror? Why did

497
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you tell me that? Also because we want to help

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Speaker 1: you confront your aerophobia, manas I even guys, I fly

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00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: in Alaska out to Seattle even strong the extra fifty

500
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: six bucks to get business class. Business class. It's like

501
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: previous Yeah, comfort plus it's like, I mean, I'm six

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Speaker 1: ft tall, um like pounds. I'm gonna give you an

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00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: ish there. So I clearly don't fit in most planes.

504
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: So I got that extra four inches. So I was

505
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: gonna be all it's it's I was gonna enjoy it.

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00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: But now I'm just to be thinking about the plane

507
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: nose diving and like you know, cartwheeling down down the runways.

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00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: For me, I fly all the time. The landing is

509
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: always that's when things could go south. I like to

510
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: sit in the very front or in the very back

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00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: because I like the I like the bump. You know,

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00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm already paying for a ticket and

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00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: I fly probably too much, honestly. But if i'm if

514
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm paying for the ticket, then give me a little

515
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: roller coaster at the end. You know what I'm saying

516
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: what is life? I always gripped the seat in front

517
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: of me just a little bit every time, and uh,

518
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: they haven't haven't had a flipper yet. So you'll be fine, Max,

519
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: You'll be fine. The odds are in your favor as

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Speaker 1: little as you fly, Max, get a windows seat. Get

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00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: a windows okay, hell, get the emergency exit seat. That

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00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: the one that's the one with the most leg room,

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00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, yeah it is. Also it's the one with

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00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: the most power and responsibility. I always try to fly

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00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: and exit seat windows style. You lose a little windows.

526
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you might just get the porthole. But those people

527
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: depend on you, and it's cool to be a hero.

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00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: Maybe am I a little too proactive and a little

529
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: too enthusiastic when the flight attendant asked me for that

530
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: verbal yes? Maybe I should just say yes instead of hell. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: These are questions, and they're fair questions. I was my

532
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: own kind of hero on a flight recently, Ben, there

533
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: was a particularly obnoxious child who was sitting next to me,

534
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: and I had the window seat, and her mother was

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00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: seated next to her in the middle, and then the

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00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: child and then this is one of these children, there's

537
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: just like I want the thing that I can't have me,

538
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: which was the windows seats. I gave her my window seat,

539
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: and the mother was so appreciative, and the flight attendant

540
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: heard me do it and rewarded me with sky miles.

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Speaker 1: But mainly, I mainly just didn't want to hear that

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00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: kid yowling the whole trip, so it was sort of

543
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: a self serving. But I think in some small way

544
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: I did a service for everyone on that plane. I

545
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: will take that. I will take those accolades, Yeah I did.

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00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: I'm fine with aisle seat. I like either aisle seat

547
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: or of course, window seat. But I'll see it's good

548
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: because you can get up anytime. You don't have to

549
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: worry about bugging. I'm also yeah, I mean, I'm not.

550
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not six. I don't need a window

551
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: seat anymore. It's fun. I don't mind it. But I

552
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: think I prefer the aisle seat except getting your elbows back.

553
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: I like the windows. Planes are amazing. A lot of

554
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: people died so that we could witness, uh and participate

555
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: in this fascinating technology. Window seats forever. Uh. And you guys,

556
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'll wave to you and when you're over

557
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: on the aisle seat, and I respect you and Max.

558
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: We didn't want this stand on a bad note, and

559
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: aerophobia is a real thing. Uh, So for you, my friend,

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00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: we wanted to wrap today's show with a couple of

561
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: hopefully reassuring facts. You are way safer. You are way

562
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: safer taking a flight to Seattle than you are taking

563
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: a road trip. Uh And there are numerous reasons why

564
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: we pulled some National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data back

565
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: in uh Let's say the numbers were roughly the same

566
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: before COVID. There were thirty two thousand more than thirty

567
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: two thousand fatal car accidents that led to over thirty

568
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: five thousand deaths. That means that there were people who

569
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: were not involved with the cars who died. They weren't driving,

570
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily passengers, they died. Uh. And this means

571
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: that there were one point one three fatalities per one

572
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: hundred million vehicle miles traveled. That's eleven people for every

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Speaker 1: one thousand US residents. Cars are not subject to the

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Speaker 1: same scrutiny, the same maintenance, the same rigorous regulation as planes.

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00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: So dude, you are whether you're in the aisle seat

576
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: or the window seat, nobody wants the middle seat whether

577
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: whatever seat you're in, Uh, you are way safer than

578
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: you would be on a road trip, even if you

579
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: were with me and Mill, which would be epic. We

580
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: should do a road trip, Oh, I'd love to. Speaking

581
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: of Earl Pala Scott Benjamin, we did a incredible road

582
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: trip years ago, actually a road rally, like a scavenger hunt,

583
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: all across the these United States, and it was a delay. Um. Yeah,

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00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: we should make that happen again very soon. But in

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00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: the meantime, I think it's time to put an end

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: to this. Uh, this two parter proactively proactive two yes, yes,

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: that is correct. Uh. And we hope that you have

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00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed this as as much as we did. Folks. Again,

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00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: every death is a tragedy, but these brave pioneers of

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00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: the sky have fundamentally changed the way that people interact

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00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: with their environment. And we hope you tune in for

592
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: future iterations of this. Let us know, uh, let us

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00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: know your tales of inventors who have died by their

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00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: own hands, such as there's a fun fact I throw

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Speaker 1: in because I don't know whether this belongs in a

596
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: in a full episode, but uh Noel Max did you gout.

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00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: You guys know the Denver Airport, right, there's that big

598
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: nightmarish stalion statue. The guy who made that died as

599
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: a result of that statute. What do you mean as

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00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: a result? How did he die? Who did this to him?

601
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: It fell on him? Oh my god, that's awful. There's

602
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: also an insane mural at Denver Airport this guy, like

603
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: the the weird gas masks kind of Gestapo figure, swinging

604
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: a giant saber across a like a rainbow of like

605
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: indigenous people carrying dead babies. It's very strange. Didn't they

606
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: move some of that or they got rid of some

607
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: of it? I don't know. It was always very controversial

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00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: and there were even, like you know, all kinds of

609
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: conspiracies scrolling around the Denver for this is news to me.

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00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: This just happened in two thousand six. The sculptor was

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00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: killed when part of the blue Mustang statue fell on him, unfortunately,

612
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: severed an artery in his leg. I thought, you said,

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00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: we working in it's on a bummer, Ben. That's a

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00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: total bummer, right, right you are. We don't want to

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00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: be a bummer. Because he liked the aviation pioneers, in

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: this series. Uh, he did leave a legacy, and it's

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00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: important to remember that history is closer than it may

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00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: appear in the rear view. There we go. Oh my gosh,

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00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: my car stuff is coming out. We got to end

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00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: the show. At least he didn't sever an artery in

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00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: his legacy. Am I right? The show already, I'm gonna start.

622
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start ripping off people's names and thank you. Alright, alright, thanks, thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks Max, thanks for the check in. Also thanks to

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Speaker 1: our super producer Max. Thanks to Alex Williams composed the track. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Streetlin, Alright, alright, we're out, We're out, everybody, We'll

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