WEBVTT - EP 137 The Compton Menace Interview 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.719 Where's adding the family. Welcome to another episode of Against 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.520 the Chronicles podcast. Before we get started with this compentace interview, 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.920 I justly wanted to chop it up real quick. My homeboy, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.440 Gorilla Black. Um, let you guys know that he is 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.560 now officially part of the Digital soapbox family. What's up 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.280 with your black man? What's going on with it still? Man? 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.680 Just ready to get this amazing stuff started, Man, that 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.640 me and you got going on. Man, We're gonna leach 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.560 to the world real soon. Man. Man, it's definitely man 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.000 gonna be epic. Man. This is gonna take things to 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.960 a whole another level and share lighting waves. Man. A 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.400 lot of cats previously didn't even have an understanding of it. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.199 It's just a beautiful thing. Man. And you know I 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.400 mean you to sit down, man and come together man 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.120 and be able to shed light for a lot of 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.280 cash man, so that they could have a different level 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:45.760 of looking at the world, of looking at things around them. Man. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.080 On so many different assets and facets, man, you know, yeah, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.080 without a doubt, with without a doubt. Man, you know what, Um, 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.480 you're coming home man after ten years man, and uh, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.920 you know the federal prison system, Man, it definitely has 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.480 opened your mind up to a whole another different level 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.000 of thinking. Yeah, man, I mean being there, man, was 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.480 a terrible thing because all of the different things that 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.039 I had to, you know, struggle with being away from 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.360 my family and my loved ones and losing my liberty. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:20.360 But being there was a watershed moment for me. It 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.280 was an AHA moment due to the fact that I 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.200 was able to open my mind to something that was 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.199 different and previous, previously hidden from me on so many 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:36.320 different levels of understanding on world views and literature and 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.800 philosophy and religion and you know, all of those things man, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:48.680 that previously I never made time for or I never 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:55.520 just gave mine fully you know, attention to, just never 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.960 just sat myself down and just opened my mind up 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.640 to something different. I was just so used to being 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.280 in a one way, one set mind frame for so long, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.959 so to be able to do something just totally different, man, 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.360 just sit down and study and reading, be around different dudes, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.640 you know that have a a different type of way 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.600 of thinking about things, and you know, so that just 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.120 really just put me in a whole different mental space 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.600 and me coming home just now, I my mind is 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.520 open to so many different things on so many different levels. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.320 So yeah, yeah, well you know the biggest thing is 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.680 right now, well we have going on as good as 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:42.639 the Internet most things. Man, it's a really a tool 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.079 of distraction if you're allowed to be. Yeah, it definitely 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.480 could be a tune of distraction. Man. I mean so 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.440 many people, man, are just and dated with so much 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.160 stuff that's going on right now. When you're looking at 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.520 all of the social media sites, whether it be Facebook, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.320 and whether it be in Instagram or snapchat or ticktop, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.560 you know, pretty much they dumbing themselves down, man. And 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.400 so to be able to have an outlet and in 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:13.560 a way where you know, people can really, you know, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.680 just really sit down and become you know, one with 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.919 themselves and reflect on things, and to be able to 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.880 look at things outside of the current circumstances or just 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:28.560 the regular, you know, repeated cycle of I hate to 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.840 say that word BS, but yeah, man, just to be 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.760 able to look at things outside of that, man, it's 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.880 not only I opening, but it's liberating. Bro. Well, it 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.200 definitely is about a BS and that's the right term 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.160 for it. That's the correct term because let me ask 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.240 you this, which you're just coming home and the Internet 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.800 was around before you went in, but it wasn't being 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.080 utilizing in the manner of what your deals. Now, what 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.720 do you think about the current system? I think man, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.160 the earring system. Man, it's a blessing and it's occurs 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:11.480 because you have certain people that live in a lower 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.840 mind frame, and then you have those who create content 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.960 that's degregated and degraded. And then you have those who 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.960 are well learned who is able to spread the message 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.640 and open people up to a different way of thinking 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.800 and be able to inform them. So at the same time, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.600 it's a blessing and it's a curse, and it's whatever 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.239 we give our energy to and whatever energy we take 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.480 from it. You know, there's an old parable. You know, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.320 an Indian said, you know, there's two dogs, and so 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.919 there's an old Indian parable. And you know, the Indian 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.400 was asking a little boy and you know, you have 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.320 two dogs and they were to begin the fighting, which 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:01.400 one wins? And he said, you know, I don't know 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.240 which one wins. And so he said, ultimately, it's whichever 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.479 one you feed the most, whether it's dark or light, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.840 positive or negative, whichever dog you feed the most. And 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.720 so that's how I look at things. So we can 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.359 look at it with the glass half empty, or we 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.120 could look at it with the glass half full. It's 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.839 just two different viewpoints. Yeah, well really the main thing 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.360 is right now. That's why I always tell our audience 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.960 people to be open minded on things, but take stuff 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:35.240 with a cream and salt and do your own exactly. Man. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.800 And when you have social media sites and you have 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.920 so many different people competing to create content, you know, 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.760 that's a good thing because you know that there's there's 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.039 that one percent of people that create content, there's nine 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.160 percent that engage with it, and then there's just nine 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.280 who's just consumers of the content. And a lot of 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:03.200 people are that. So you you have to understand what 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.320 it is that you're taking in and what it is 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.599 that you're looking at. Prior to me going to prison, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.360 there wasn't on Facebook or Instagram. It was just on 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.440 the virgins, on the on the precipice of something different. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:18.200 You know. So I come home and it's totally reshaped, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.800 you know, the social you know, status of everything that 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.359 you look at, whether it be from financial literacy, the 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.520 pop culture to everything that you could think about. Social 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.480 media has reshaped it on every aspect of life. And 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.720 so now, you know, me coming home and seeing this, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.560 I didn't really understand how powerful of a twol you know, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.960 social media has become, and so a lot of people 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:52.200 don't realize, you know that they just their recipients of negative, negative, negative, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.480 negative information and its feeding them negative, negative information. And 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.040 then there's other people that's out there that's creating other 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.080 types of content. So I mean, at the end of 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.160 the day, man, you know, it was it was an 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.920 eye opener, man, it definitely was eye open. Well, I'm 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.120 definitely excited about the stuff that me and you have 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.760 going on. Man. I think, um, you know, we might 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.880 as well loot to count the bag. Me and Gorilla Black. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:21.000 We're doing a podcast called Revelations, and it's gonna be 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.640 really your mind bending journey and it's going to be 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.040 the educating the foreign people it is. It's gonna be 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:32.040 off the chain. Definitely. I think it's something. Man. If 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.120 you know, one thing I always wanted to do, man, still, 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.600 no matter what it is, I wanted to be someone 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.200 who contributed not to the culture, whether it was you know, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.280 through you know, me doing music or whatever it may be. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.400 But I think that on this journey man, and on 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.560 this on this level of you know, place it where 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.720 I'm at right now mentally, Man, I really want to 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.960 open people mind up to some different things. Man. And 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.360 I think that this man, this platform, Man, I think 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.400 that this is gonna be something that where people can 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.560 go to and they can really learn some things that 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.360 they previously didn't learn or no. And we that's why, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.040 you know, we we want to call it revelations, man, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.440 because we're gonna reveal what was hidden. We're gonna open 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.040 up you know, a lot of different subjects and a 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.520 lot of different things that people you know from our 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.640 culture really don't talk about a lot of things. You know, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.560 it's a different thing. We could be inundated with who 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.680 got the biggest chain or what kind of car he 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.440 pulled up in. But at the end of the day, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.680 life is a lot bigger than the chain in a car. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:41.200 Um So there's a lot of things. And so when 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.319 you look at things, man, you know, our history as 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.080 black people. You know, the other day, we were just 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.560 having a conversation about Moosa Mansa and we were talking 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.280 about how this man ruled over the Mali Empire and 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.160 you know, on his travel to Mecca, this man took 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.680 with him twenty two kilogram of gold. This man gave 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.400 away so much gold that he dropped the price of 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.840 gold for a whole decade. Literally, And this is an 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:14.040 African king, a king. Now just think about that, not 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.640 to cut you off black, but klograms of gold. What 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.000 would the monetary value of that be today? Man, billions 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.880 of dollars, bro billions of dollars. Imagine the amount twenty 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.440 two hundred kilograms of gold is what he took to 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:37.240 be exact hundred kilograms of gold. So just imagine this. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:41.520 It dropped the prices of gold for a whole decade 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:46.680 throughout the world. So this is an African king. Man, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.520 So we want to talk about some of the things man, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.280 you know, our people have done and what we've done 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.920 other than just musical but on the financial level, you know, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:10:00.200 when you know historians look at his wealth, it would 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.440 be two times the amount of Jeff Bezo. So if 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.400 Jeff Bezo today is presently worked a hundred and ninety 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.720 seven billion dollars, then mussa Mansel would be easily worth 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:14.160 over four hundred billion dollars. So he would be almost 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:20.880 halfway to being a trigger there, correct correct, and I 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.080 think that would make him one of the richest individuals 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.240 in the world, if not the riches. So I mean, 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.240 when we talk about look at our black colleges, this 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.000 man was the first person who started in college in 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.280 tim Buck two with twenty five thousand students. And we're 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.200 not talking about you know, we're talking about in in 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:43.920 in in the thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. So just 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.840 imagine this. This man had so many books of Masked 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.560 and tim Buck two that it doubled the amount of 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.440 the books that we're in Alexandria and each of So, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.680 I mean, this is a king man that really believed 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.360 in educating his people on a whole different level. It's 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.640 spread and well oth and you know, in bettering these people, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.760 you know. So yeah, man, yeah, that's dope. Man. Well 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:11.080 I'm definitely I'm definitely man looking forward man given this, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.040 but we've created to the people man, and you guys, 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.080 um we had the first episode of Revelations is dropping 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.720 another week or two, so we look forward to giving 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.440 that to y'all. So we go get them get into 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.640 this complimented interview. I'm on you, black. I appreciate you, brother, man, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.520 I love you my man, definitely, let's do it. Look 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.480 you too, Bro, the complimented interview, yolls against the chronicles. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.720 What's the word minutes? What's that? What's that with it? Oh? Man? 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.320 Just chilling man, just chilling man. Glad hen you won't 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.640 hear Man. I appreciate you're having me Bro for shore 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.880 so that we could go back to the game. Man. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.880 When he was a little kid, I was in showerhood man, man, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.120 Like I tell niggas all the time, like even coming 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.480 up in a neighborhood that I grew up in, like 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.839 I was blessed to have like the older niggas in 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.040 my in my life and ship like that because there 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.640 wasn't enforced to do a lot of things. I wasn't 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.360 forced to do no bad ship. I played sports and 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.840 they forced me on a on a good path. Grew 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.679 up with my parents. He feeling pops in and out 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.040 the house. Mom's was on the trailers. It's a typical 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.679 hood ship. So that's what I could say, Like, you know, really, man, 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.360 how did that impact you? Man? Having a mother that 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.400 was on frogs, that was seffering from frogly ditch man 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.640 Like I was just raised different. You get what I'm saying, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.440 so I didn't really look at it like my mother 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.560 was a crackhead. And then I looked at it just 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.439 like she had a problem. She has a function and attict. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.559 So she would be breakflets, lunch and dinner on the table, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.559 the house to be clean. But nighttime then that's what 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.920 she you know, turning to go do what she do. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.200 So I didn't never have like a a bad feeling 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.640 about somebody that did truiler. I just felt like it 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.840 was natural to me realistically for sure. So you said 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.760 he played football, Yeah, play pop Warner and the whole line. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:02.440 I started playing, Um, yeah, I played pop Warna. I 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.480 played pop Warna for a couple of years. When you 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.960 played for Compton's nah, I think it's the Titans at 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:13.439 the time. Yea, yeah, the Titans. And then I had 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.960 went to a middle school called the NFL Yet Center, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.439 responsible by the NFL. It was right there in Compton 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.280 on Central and Womanton. I want to say, yeah, so 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.360 that was a good thing too because we got to 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.840 really meet people. That was like doing different ships give me. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.400 So sports was a really big part of my life. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.680 No matter what was going on, I always had that 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.200 team atmosphere always, you know, between sports and hip hop 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:44.480 mansa you know, so helped me a lot for cutting 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.000 you up. But even from like going to different schools 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.200 because the good schools was Crypt schools. He feeled me, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.240 so I had to go to Crypt schools too. So 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.760 just sports helped me build real relationships before it was 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.439 game banging on each other and ship like that and 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.240 going to the school of the year. After that, building 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.040 relationship it was. It wasn't no, it was easy for me. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.280 It f for me. It wasn't like I had a 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.679 blood problems against the Crypts and nothing like that. They 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.400 just made sure I was straight and it was a family. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.920 It gave me. So sports was a big, big thing. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.360 That's dope. Man, When did you start getting a hip hop? 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.240 But when did you start getting book? Want to wrap 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.080 an n see my ankle? A lot was sports ain't 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:28.440 really I wouldn't into like school like that, so I 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.080 didn't funk around it. I didn't take no s a 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:31.840 T s and ship like that, so I didn't get 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.880 to do what I wanted to do. So I was 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.160 just doing the you know, the regularly outrage this ship 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.040 and I really it was a dude name that went 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.560 to comp to high school and his name was Michael Hunt. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.960 Already here's some se the block and he was real 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.720 close with the game when they started pop. I was 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.160 a streeting. I was just like really stilling cards at 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.320 this time and like that. Yeah, and I would call 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.640 Mike to come, you know, help me out when this 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.880 time that you know, chopping business part. So he ran 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.360 around with Game and he's like, man, my boy game rapping, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.480 like you should come out with us. You feel we 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:08.960 were starting to go out with a lot of niggers, 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.360 want a lot of real niggers with us and ship 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.560 like that. So I'm like, all right, code And I 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.560 was just really a street and that I wasn't really 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.600 into music, so you wasn't really into it, but you 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.960 just got around the vibe and started. I got around 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.360 the vibe and I got to see like like Dann 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.080 like somebody from the city did this ship like a 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.040 game that we did this ship and I really fell 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.480 in love with music around two that was for this 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.120 dope man. And at that time, Chuck was blowing up 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.880 like he was the man. Yeah, he was the biggest 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.240 thing ever. I was, Yeah, I u K at that time. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:44.960 Man of traveling back and forth between here in the 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.680 States and even over there. He was huge, you know, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.520 So you start doing that. Do you remember the first 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:55.280 song you laid down? Man? Yeah, I do. I think 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.560 it's called for My Niggers. And it was a good 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.800 thing because we had recorded that's song and I think 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.080 the same the same studio that Too Pod got shot 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.120 in in New York. So just that whole energy and 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.360 all that ship wasever. That was a cool b that's 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.320 crazy man. So how did the game like responding you 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.920 rapping and stuff? Because you didn't leave him on the 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.920 premise of being a rapper. How did he respond to that? 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.720 It was just like it was like laughing for he 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.360 like then' gonna wrap. It's like a laugh. It wasn't 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.520 like a you can't do a type of thing him. 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.760 He showed me that he was interested in gave me that, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.720 you know, the courage to push on with him. I 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.080 can say that for sure. So when did you know 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.160 When did you first know that she was only something 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.800 like as far as being the MC, When did you 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:45.760 start like seeing some results from your work? I would say, Um, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.400 I always had a I always had a good relationship 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:55.040 with like little Wayne So when little Wayne had dead 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.880 blood niggas with him, and it was at a time 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.560 like right before he was going to jail, and he 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:01.960 called me like, hey, I'll be in l A. You're 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.200 trying to shoot the video. I'm like, hell yeah, that's dope. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.000 That was a big thing right there for me at 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.560 the time, because that's when I first beginning first trying 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.440 to learn myself from feeling, Yeah, that record, man, that 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.639 like blew up on the underground level, like that, that 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.760 record being good for you. Yeah, for sure, that for 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.480 sure that after that, nigga stopped saying Wayne wasn't fake 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.520 blood too, if you notice, Yeah, that's crazy. You know, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.600 let's talk about that for man, because I don't know 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.320 where cats get there from speaking on cats that they 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.080 don't know. We was talking about that off air because 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.000 when I was in New Orleans, Wayne had a bunch 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.280 of real niggas with him. He had a bunch of 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.440 real blood niggas that was from his turf, that was 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.359 from his city down there, and he had been claiming 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.760 that hood for a long time. In fact, you know 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.720 what I'm saying, he's and he's one of the you know, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.679 outside of the gang shipping everything Wayne is genuinely one 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.720 of the just better people on this plane. Well ain't 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.479 the real nigger, bro. He did countless stands for me 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.399 that you know. Half, I ain't Ashford, And you know, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.960 he's just a good nigga feeling and it ain't about 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.040 uh no straights, it ain't about none of that. He's 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.240 just a good hearted nigger. Yeah, he's a really good 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.640 herded then, so you know, and we can bounce something. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.760 So you run with game now during this time y'all 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.680 doing your thing, when did you decide that that wasn't 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.280 for you no more? What the street like just as 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.399 far as like the street ship and everything like that, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:20.840 when did you decide like when you when did you 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.480 cut all that loose? Really ship? When I got into 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:29.760 like really after after I really got into the business 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:34.800 of the music, and then I kind of put in 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.600 my own head that is set up to be a 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.040 safe way for us to that. That's how it said 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.479 it for a ship to generate. But and the streets 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.040 is still beyond in the streets, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.760 But the beef and all that ship sales, you know 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.520 what I'm saying. So that's why probably recently ain't gonna 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.879 lie to you, probably a couple of years ago, a 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.239 couple of years ago, because I was always still like 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.359 I wouldn't. I won't say like a street nigger. I'm 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.600 not no punk though, you get what I'm saying. And 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.119 I ain't gonna like you. I ain't gonna let too 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:11.439 much ship that I'm not comfortable with slide. So I 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.680 just got a different mentality, Like a couple of years ago, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.119 I would say, bro a couple of years ago, a 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.560 couple of years ago. It's just maturity, man. As we 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.120 get older, man, we should be evolving, you know, doing 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.840 the same ship we was doing in nineteen twenty years old. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.480 You know, so you're running with game. Now. Did you 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.120 ever officially signed a Black Wall Street? No, I wasn't 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.760 like that. We was just a movement. I would say, 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.200 We're just a movement, a group of real niggers that 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:40.000 was moving tough. You know, ship, tour, buses, cars, you 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.639 want to go, you wanna go, We're moving, showing the 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.680 world of the city. And you know, he gave a 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.800 he gave everybody opportunity to make something of themselves. Yeah, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.560 it seemed like he was a hustler man because I 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:52.760 used to see you in the road when I was 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.680 out there with the glass. I said, I told you 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:59.400 one that. I said, man, that can't go be somebody everywhere. Well, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.200 I think I at that mentality just from the hustle game. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.600 You get what I'm saying, knowing how to move around 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.040 with a product, and I kind of took that and 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.359 use it as the same way to be had to 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.760 be the right place at the right time. You just 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.959 had to do it. And that's how I did. And 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.440 we took all money and did that. Yeah, for sure. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.639 So so you kind of was able to use the 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.760 Black Wall Street situation as a condoment to get into 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.199 other places like you met Wayne, you met Baby and 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.840 all those guys to him. Yeah, I made Wayne for 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.040 the first time on a roadway game and I had 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:34.840 to use the bathroom and find the bathroom. So I 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.960 just went back to the tour. But and Wayne getting 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.320 off his bus and I'm walking by, what's up with it? 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.800 What's up? What's up? What's up? What you're doing? Compliments? 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:44.479 I just hope the whole game. But I wouldn't even 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.960 rapping at the time as a whole game down here, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.639 take my never fucking if you're in the city. I 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:52.159 got see for sure. Then we've been locked in every since. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.520 Ain't it funny? Wayne? Just a real niggle like that? 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.879 Like and at that time he was one probably the 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.760 biggest star on the planet, though he was the biggest 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.919 story of the planet. This time, it was crazy to me, 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.000 like from watching this nigga been a fan of them too, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.919 like right here calling me, you feel me? So it 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.000 was kind of like m hm. A couple of times 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.720 he called I was in the hood, like, oh, ain't 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.520 calling blood, hold up? You get me like that? It 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.560 was it was crazy and you're feeling at the time, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.520 and he was just reaching out to you like that. 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.360 So so tell me this right now, because you eventually 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.280 wound up signing with Cash Money Records, right and you 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.720 and Wayne had a really good relationship, and you see 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.440