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Speaker 1: The app that's like Airbnb but for your luggage. Plus

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a meaningful Memorial Day weekend. We've

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Speaker 1: got some great guests on on the live show this week.

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Speaker 1: Ben Bheran CEO and principal analyst at Creative Strategies, is

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Speaker 1: going to talk about Microsoft's new Copilot plus PCs and

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Speaker 1: Tim Stevens, freelance automotive journalist He's going to talk about

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Speaker 1: his recent article all about ev myths and Know Me.

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Speaker 1: AI CEO Alex Cardinell is going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: growth of AI companions and AI chatbots as friends and yes,

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Speaker 1: even lovers. This week was a big event for Microsoft

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Speaker 2: Two events.

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Speaker 1: Actually, one was for their new computers and one was

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Speaker 1: for their developers called Microsoft Build. I'd never been to

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Speaker 1: So it's up in Redmond, just outside of Seattle. Beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful place in Pacific Northwest. When I arrived, I did

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Speaker 1: It's a place where they throw the fish and all

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Speaker 1: I visited Bubblegum Alley, the original Starbucks, which still had

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Speaker 1: do that when you're up there. I left my luggage

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Speaker 1: So you go on the app, you find a location

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Speaker 1: It was so beautiful up there, so why was I

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Speaker 4: Hey, Rich, never question AI. If they told you what,

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Speaker 2: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here in Seattle, Washington, site of Microsoft Build.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is Ben Baheran. He is a technology

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it is an all out AI war right now.

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Speaker 6: And while Android continues to have some features, right, what

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Speaker 1: So Microsoft's in an interesting position because they are very enterprise,

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned we're here at Microsoft Build, so explain

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Speaker 7: Sure.

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Speaker 1: And today they had Open AI CEO Sam Altman on stage.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about these computers.

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Speaker 1: Microsoft unveiled a new category they are calling copilot plus PCs.

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Speaker 6: you know, Amazon three days ago, a red you know shoes,

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Speaker 6: and you can just say I was looking at red

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Speaker 6: shoes a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 5: Help me find It'll bring that up right. So it

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Speaker 5: has this memory right, that's very well, but that.

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Speaker 6: Requires a ton of new compute and so this is

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Speaker 6: the first time that this new category of PCs has

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Speaker 6: come out where you really need all this new processing

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Speaker 6: power that's coming from Qualcomm in this first product Excellent

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Speaker 6: and Xcelle Plus, and then we're coming from Intel and

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Speaker 6: a m D at the end of at the end

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Speaker 6: of the year. So there's going to be a very

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Speaker 6: big distinction between new classes of capabilities and old and

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Speaker 6: they're hoping that people buy into this new category of

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Speaker 6: PC and are willing to use all these new features

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Speaker 6: and understand all the performance needs that comes with it.

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Speaker 1: So do you think it's a way to convince people

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Speaker 1: to buy a new computer or is there something greater

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Speaker 1: happening here?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think they're trying to set themselves up

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Speaker 6: for really the AI era in terms of hardware. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't expect this to you know, somebody bought a

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Speaker 6: computer three years ago and goes, I need that for

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Speaker 6: the new one. But there are a lot of computers

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Speaker 6: out there that are five six years old and people

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Speaker 6: who've just been like, just been waiting, you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't I don't need to make the jump.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully this is attractive to them.

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Speaker 6: As enough new features that looks interesting enough that'll kind

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Speaker 6: of move some of that lagging base over who have

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Speaker 6: been delaying those refreshes into a into into new computers.

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Speaker 6: And then obviously there's an enterprise side of this, right,

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Speaker 6: Enterprise cycles pretty straightforward in terms of a three to

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Speaker 6: four year cadence, and for them, right they're already making

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Speaker 6: investments in AI, in the infrastructure and for their employees.

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Speaker 6: These things slot into that for them to future prove

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Speaker 6: future products for and then start to deploy some of

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Speaker 6: their AI strategies to improve productivity of their employees.

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Speaker 1: Now, I found it pretty interesting that these computers, at

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Speaker 1: least the Microsoft Surface Laptop and the surface pro feature.

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Speaker 1: A Qualcomm snap Dragon processor, not an Intel processor. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think they went with Qualcom, who's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: known for making desktop processors.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a number of these reasons.

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Speaker 6: And Qualcom has two skews, so it's the ex Elite

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Speaker 6: and then X plus.

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Speaker 5: The main thing that.

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Speaker 6: Microsoft was sort of communicating yesterday was to do all

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Speaker 6: these wonderful AI features. It requires and this number is

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Speaker 6: not going to make a ton of sense to maybe

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Speaker 6: anybody listening, but it requires forty tops, which is trillions

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Speaker 6: of operations per second and dedicated to this new blocked

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Speaker 6: the NPU. So you had CPUs before, people probably familiar

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Speaker 6: with that. You get a GPU, people, and now these

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Speaker 6: things come with NPUs, so.

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Speaker 1: CPU central processing you it's kind of like the heart

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Speaker 1: of it GPU graphics. Now NPU is neural, which is

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Speaker 1: more like what AI. Yeah, it's AI.

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Speaker 6: It's a different set of cores and it's just designed

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Speaker 6: to run these very sophisticated AI applicant applications. So many

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Speaker 6: of the features that you see, really if anybody shows

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Speaker 6: shows AI is taking advantage of these neural processing you

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Speaker 6: know units this block on the SFC and just to

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Speaker 6: do it. Microsoft needed to have what they're saying, right

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Speaker 6: is more than forty tops, and Qualtcum is the only

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Speaker 6: product out there that has forty NPU tops capable of

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Speaker 6: handling these AI workloads.

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Speaker 5: So they made the point.

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Speaker 6: Intel and a m D will have it eventually, but

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Speaker 6: Qualcomm had that capability today and then and then the

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Speaker 6: other benefit that Qualtcom has is the battery life on

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Speaker 6: these machines is just so much more significant than what

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Speaker 6: existed on competitive platforms. And obviously that's been a big

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Speaker 6: story for max. Right, you just get really good battery

513
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Speaker 6: life on They also run ARM, which is what Qualcomm does,

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Speaker 6: so it's going to put the position itself very well

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Speaker 6: against Apple as well. And Microsoft knew that, and they

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Speaker 6: knew that Qualcom being on ARM put them in a

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Speaker 6: really good spot to compete.

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Speaker 1: And I guess this is sort of a dumb question,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's what a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: going to be wondering. So if I get an AIPC,

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Speaker 1: is it gonna make chat GPT faster on my computer?

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Speaker 2: Or is that not really what we're talking about here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not. I think that's not the part of it.

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Speaker 6: I think it's new experiences. Right when you look at

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Speaker 6: things like recall Microsoft to feature you can't that's not

526
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Speaker 6: even chat gbt like you can't do that. That's just

527
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Speaker 6: being able to use your computer in a natural way

528
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Speaker 6: to help you find objects, documents, things you might have

529
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Speaker 6: forgotten about right three days ago, calendar. So those are

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Speaker 6: just unique features. That's not chat gbt R. And I

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Speaker 6: think the world is bigger than chat gbt. There's a

532
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Speaker 6: whole lot of new features coming. The point is all

533
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Speaker 6: of this is going to make using your computer easier

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Speaker 6: for you and help make you more productive or get

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Speaker 6: more done. And that's just that's what computers exist for.

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Speaker 6: And so that that step function forward is exciting.

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Speaker 1: And a note about the recall privacy wise, are people

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Speaker 1: ready to have an entire record of everything they do

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Speaker 1: on their computer at all times?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think that, But there's privacy levers. You can tune, right,

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Speaker 6: you can turn this off, you can hide certain websites.

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Speaker 6: So I do think that there's going to take a

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Speaker 6: little bit of learning curve for that. But the fact

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Speaker 6: that you are in control of that privacy means that

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Speaker 6: you know it's really up to you, right, you can

547
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Speaker 6: use it or not use it. Enterprises again can turn

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Speaker 6: it off, but when shifts like this happen, we sort

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Speaker 6: of just have to adapt and get used to it.

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Speaker 6: And that's where I think we're at right now and

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Speaker 6: just sort of step one just understanding what these things

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Speaker 6: can do for us.

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Speaker 3: Ben.

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Speaker 2: How can folks follow you online?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so easiest way is on is on Twitter. I

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Speaker 6: don't call it X, but it's Twitter. Ben at Ben

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Speaker 6: behern is my is my Twitter, and then Creative Strategies

558
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Speaker 6: is the website where we post a lot of our

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Speaker 6: research and analysis.

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Speaker 2: To Ben, thanks so much for joining me here in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me anytime.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to those phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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Speaker 2: He runs the shortcut dot com.

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Speaker 1: He's got a cool deal where he's given away these

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Speaker 1: Samsung Smart Tag twos for a buck instead of the

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Speaker 1: I'll give you details on how to get that deal

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Speaker 1: in just a moment, but first let's go to Michelle.

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Speaker 2: Michelle in Long Beach. You are on with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Hi. Rich.

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Speaker 10: One of your previous callers said he was the least

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Speaker 10: technical people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you are you challenging that. You're challenging Bill and

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Speaker 1: Julian to be the least technical person.

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Speaker 10: Oh, by the way, record players were in cars.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I meant to hold on. Let me read that.

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Speaker 1: So Stan Word wrote to me. He said they came

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Speaker 1: out in nineteen fifty seven Chrysler products. They were the

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Speaker 1: first ones to offer a phonograph.

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Speaker 2: It's a JC Whitney forty five record player. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm still suspect of this because I can't imagine how

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Speaker 1: badly these things skipped in cars.

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Speaker 10: But oh much to suck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they still offered.

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Speaker 1: It, but I guess they didn't know what they didn't have.

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Speaker 1: They didn't know that we'd have MP three's and CDs

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Speaker 1: and all.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Now we have streaming and satellite and radio. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just so many things. But how can I help you? Michelle?

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Speaker 10: Okay? On my Apple phone, every time I try to

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Speaker 10: act add an app, even though it's a free app,

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Speaker 10: even it says payment not complete. And I've added, you know,

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Speaker 10: credit cards because in the Apple Pay I had some

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Speaker 10: credit cards that had expired, so I deleted those and

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Speaker 10: added the current ones. It still won't let me add

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Speaker 10: an app.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: So you know, you do have to if there's any

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Speaker 1: sort of issue with your payment information, they're not going

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Speaker 1: to let you download even a free app, and so

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Speaker 1: that's probably what's happening here.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Apple Pay is separate from your payment for the app store,

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Speaker 1: so that might be the issue. So you need to

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Speaker 1: go into your Apple ID and check what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the payment there. So the way to access that

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Speaker 1: is to go into settings on your iPhone, tap your

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Speaker 1: name up at the top where it says Apple ID,

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Speaker 1: and then it says payment and shipping. So if your

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Speaker 1: card has expired, if they need to refresh the security

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Speaker 1: code or something is going on. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: let you download even a free app, and so that's

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Speaker 1: where you need to go. And so if you go

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Speaker 1: into your payment, it will ask for your face ID

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Speaker 1: or your thumb print depending on how your phone is

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Speaker 1: set up. And if you look at payment methods, that's

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Speaker 1: what you're looking at, So make sure that's up to date.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a payment method there, that could

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Speaker 1: be the problem. There are multiple payment methods that you

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Speaker 1: can add, Like you can add like a I believe,

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Speaker 1: you can add a gift card and things like that.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways you can add a payment

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Speaker 1: method that's not just a credit card. But that's what

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Speaker 1: I would do is check there and see what's going

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Speaker 1: on with your payment method there. If you think everything

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Speaker 1: is fine and on the up and up, then I

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Speaker 1: would delete that payment method. Inside Again, we're inside the settings,

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Speaker 1: not Apple Pay. Those are two different things. And so

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Speaker 1: Apple pay handles payments at a store, at a register,

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Speaker 1: online payments when you see that Apple Pay button come

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Speaker 1: up on a website when you're checking out, But the

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Speaker 1: Apple Payment is just kind of think of that as

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Speaker 1: a payment for Apple itself. So when you're buying an

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Speaker 1: app from Apple, or you're doing some sort of subscription

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Speaker 1: through the App Store, that's all through your actual Apple ID.

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Speaker 1: So I would go in there, check to make sure

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Speaker 1: everything is on the up and up, and then try

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Speaker 1: it again. So restart your phone once that's all done

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Speaker 1: and see if it works. If not, there could be

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Speaker 1: something bigger at play here. But I think that's probably

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Speaker 1: going to fix it. I know that I've run into

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Speaker 1: this issue a couple of times, and it turns out

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you add a device or you change something,

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Speaker 1: you just have to reauthorize that payment method. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Apple wants their money. They're not going to let you

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Speaker 1: slide even though it's a free app. They want to

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Speaker 1: on the back end. Just make sure if you do

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Speaker 1: an in app purchase that you're still going to be

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Speaker 1: good for that money. So, Michelle, thank you for the

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Speaker 1: designation as the least techiest person. I will note that

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Speaker 1: in your file and put you right there in alphabetical

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Speaker 1: order next to Bill, and we'll see if anyone else

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Speaker 1: can defeate that. But that's the beauty of this show.

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Speaker 1: That is the entire point of the show. This is

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Speaker 1: a show for everyone. There are no stupid questions. There

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Speaker 1: are only stupid answers from me, and that's it. So

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Speaker 1: you can ask away. And I fully expect people listening

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Speaker 1: to come from all different kind of tech backgrounds. Some

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Speaker 1: people are very techy and they like to listen to

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Speaker 1: me to see if I get something wrong. And they

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Speaker 1: sit there and they just you know, in their evil

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Speaker 1: layer and they're just like, hahaha.

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Speaker 2: Rich doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: I know more than Rich, and other people are sitting

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Speaker 1: there writing down everything I say, like it's you know.

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Speaker 2: Coming from abuff.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Michelle eight eight eight Rich one

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Speaker 1: on one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Can you tell it's a holiday weekend? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am in a good mood today.

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Speaker 2: We've got Bobo back by the way, so Bobo, thanks

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Speaker 2: for being back.

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Speaker 4: Just on.

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Speaker 2: Came back from a nice vacation, so yes, yeah it

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Speaker 2: was needed? Was it necessary? Bobo?

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Speaker 1: I think works more than I do. So I think

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Speaker 1: are we six days a week each? Yeah, we're six each,

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Speaker 1: but you work harder than I do. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: the difference. I kind of like slack, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're on TV every day.

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Speaker 11: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm behind scenes. Bobo has a smile every day. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's my goal is to walk through life with

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Speaker 1: more of a smile.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so I tease this, but let me tell

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Speaker 1: you how to get this if you want one of

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Speaker 1: their So you know you've heard of the air tag.

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Speaker 1: Samsung has their version called a smart tag too. And

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Speaker 1: friend of the show, Matt Swider, he runs a website

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Speaker 1: called The Shortcut, made a great name for himself helping

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Speaker 1: people find PlayStation fives when nobody could find them. So

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Speaker 1: we masked like a million followers on Twitter and he's

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Speaker 1: done a great job just helping people find deals online.

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Speaker 1: So we teamed up with Samsung to offer one thousand

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Speaker 1: discount codes for this smart tag to Bluetooth tracker. It's

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Speaker 1: usually thirty bucks. He's got codes that bring it down

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Speaker 1: to just a dollar. And I can tell you this

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Speaker 1: is legit because I did it this morning and Bobo

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Speaker 1: just did it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we bought. How much was yours? Do you

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Speaker 2: know what your total was? Yes?

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Speaker 1: That's what mine was a dollar eleven. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of tax here in Los Angeles, So your mileage

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Speaker 1: may vary depending on what the tax is on a

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Speaker 1: dollar where you live. But shipping was free. That was

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Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna get me. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Shipping is gonna be fifteen bucks. No,

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Speaker 1: it was free. So if you want one of these

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Speaker 1: smart tags that can keep track of your stuff, I

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Speaker 1: actually have one on my bag. It's I got one

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Speaker 1: from Samsung when I was in South Korea and so

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Speaker 1: it's great.

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Speaker 2: It's just like an air tag.

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Speaker 1: It uses all the different Samsung devices in the world

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Speaker 1: to help you find your stuff. So how do you

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Speaker 1: find it? Go to Matt Swider m A. T. T.

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Speaker 1: Swider either on his Instagram or his Twitter, and you

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Speaker 1: have to comment Samsung on his post. So find his

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Speaker 1: post about this, comment Samsung, and then it will send

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Speaker 1: you like a DM with all the information and the details.

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Speaker 1: You got to go through a couple of little processes

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Speaker 1: just to make sure that you're not a bot, because

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Speaker 1: what happens is whenever people try to give away stuff

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Speaker 1: and do things nicely, the bots take over and know

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Speaker 1: real people actually get these, and so he wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure that real people get them. You have to

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Speaker 1: do it by you have to redeem the code by

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Speaker 1: the end of Sunday night. Just FYI. So I'll put

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Speaker 1: all the instructions on my website rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: Hit the light bulb and look for the Samsung situation.

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Speaker 2: And check your inbox. Check your inbox. Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 2: you'll get the information.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, I'm gonna tell you a cool feature called

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Speaker 1: photo Unblur. Why I'm so impressed with it? You are

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Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. We welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking

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Speaker 1: technology on a Memorial Day weekend. Hope you're having a

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Speaker 1: meaningful Memorial Day. Phone line for the show is eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four two four one zero one. So Google is having

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Speaker 1: some trouble with a new feature. This is a big

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Speaker 1: new feature from Google called AI Overview. This is something

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Speaker 1: they're rolling out to billions of Google users and it

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Speaker 1: basically uses AI to summarize a search result up at

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Speaker 1: the top of the page, and the blue.

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Speaker 2: Links are there, they're just down at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: The problem is, there have been many, many instances of

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Speaker 1: these AI overviews providing incorrect or dangerous information. People are

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Speaker 1: posting about these things all over social media. Some of

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Speaker 1: them I can't even mention because they are just two outrageous.

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Speaker 1: So what's happened is Google's AI is picking up information

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Speaker 1: from a variety of sources, which could be Reddit, it

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Speaker 1: could be YouTube videos. It could be articles that are

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Speaker 1: fake or articles that are fan fiction, and it processes that,

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Speaker 1: or it could be sarcasm and it processes that as

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Speaker 1: real and it puts it into the answer. So, for instance,

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Speaker 1: one of them was, if you want to make the

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Speaker 1: cheese like gooier on pizza, you can add some glue

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Speaker 1: to it. You can use Blinker fluid for car maintenance.

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Speaker 1: One of them said to eat a couple of rocks

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Speaker 1: every day for your digestive system. Do not do these things,

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Speaker 1: by the way, But Google has now said, okay, a

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Speaker 1: lot of these AI overviews are accurate. The errors are

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Speaker 1: from very uncommon search questions. But the thing is this

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Speaker 1: is Google. A lot of people use Google, a lot

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Speaker 1: of kids use Google, a lot of teenagers use gogol,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people use Google. And Google has built

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Speaker 1: a reputation of giving you the right answers, and if

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Speaker 1: it's not, that's a problem. Now you have to understand

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Speaker 1: in this day and age with AI, not everything you

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Speaker 1: see is right. And that's why it's nice to have

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Speaker 1: a human being like myself that can actually fact check

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Speaker 1: this stuff before it comes out of my mouth.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not always right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just information out there that's just wrong,

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Speaker 1: and you do need, you know, the wisdom of the

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Speaker 1: crowd sometimes to realize that. So this is a major

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Speaker 1: turning point for Google where I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: it can make or break the company, but this right

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Speaker 1: now is a bunch of people on social media posting

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Speaker 1: these things that are not very good. It will bubble up,

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Speaker 1: especially if there is a big, huge issue with this

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Speaker 1: in a large, meaningful way.

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Speaker 2: And it also gives Google some pause.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge new feature, this AI overview, because

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Speaker 1: this is how they compete with chat GPT and if

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Speaker 1: they can't figure AI out, nobody can. Chat GBT is

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Speaker 1: a new company. It says at the bottom chat GBT

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Speaker 1: can make mistakes, check important info. Google Does Google say that,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if their AI overviews they need to

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Speaker 1: Let's see should I eat rocks? Okay, they got rid

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Speaker 1: of that AI overview because I have a feeling people

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Speaker 1: are going through Google right now. Everyone all hands on deck.

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Speaker 1: They're like, just ask Google the dumbest questions you can

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Speaker 1: think of, and if it comes up with a dumb answer,

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Speaker 1: eradicate it from the system. Okay, let's go to Tim.

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Speaker 1: Tim and San Francisco. You're on with rest. I am

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Speaker 1: doing fantastic. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thanks for having me. I love your show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Quick questions for you, and forgive me if this may

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Speaker 7: be the wrong place to search for this information. But

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Speaker 7: I have an idea for a cell phone that from

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Speaker 7: what I can tell in my minimal research is there's

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Speaker 7: nothing like it out there. And are there websites or

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Speaker 7: companies out there that are trustworthy that you can go

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Speaker 7: to with an idea, run it by them and they'll

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Speaker 7: help you. They'll either say Yep, great idea, or no,

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Speaker 7: it's taken, or no, you don't even want to go there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: company that does that, because here's the thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: there are millions of ideas out there. Ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of a good idea is execution right. So you may

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Speaker 1: go to ten people with your idea and nine of

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Speaker 1: them may say, dude, this is the worst idea I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard, and one person may believe in it, and

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Speaker 1: then they do it and you make millions upon millions

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Speaker 1: of dollars. But with all of that said, I think

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Speaker 1: what it really comes down to is, if you do

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Speaker 1: believe in this app and this idea, you need to,

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Speaker 1: you know, put out some feelers and get in touch

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Speaker 1: with some people that might be able to help you

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Speaker 1: do this. So if you want, obviously the cheapest way

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Speaker 1: to do this is to develop it yourself. If I

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Speaker 1: were you, I would I would get involved in the

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Speaker 1: Apple developer community. So they're having a big event called

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Speaker 1: WWDC June fourteenth, I believe is at the date let

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Speaker 1: me see.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let's see what the date that is?

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Speaker 1: June tenth is this year, so you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: follow that community, see what's happening there.

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Speaker 7: What was that called again, Apple.

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Speaker 1: WWDC, that's called the Worldwide Developers Conference. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of these people I meet Tim, honestly, they are you know,

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Speaker 1: they're smart people. But I've seen students come up with

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Speaker 1: apps and they can code them. You can go on

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Speaker 1: Apple's website if you go to developer dot Apple dot

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Speaker 1: com Apple gives you all the tools to develop an app,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of times it's very inexpensive, if not free,

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Speaker 1: to do this. So you can go there and kind

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Speaker 1: of explore and see which you know. Obviously, if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a coding background, it's you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: little trickier. But they've actually made that easy too, so

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Speaker 1: you can help, you know, you can get ideas from that.

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Speaker 1: You can actually go on chat GPT and if you

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Speaker 1: need simple code for an app, you can you can

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Speaker 1: have it help.

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Speaker 2: You code that.

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Speaker 1: So these are all resources, but the reality is with

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Speaker 1: your situation, yes, you can go to some developers or

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Speaker 1: people that create apps and see what they think and

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Speaker 1: they may, you know, take you on and help you

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Speaker 1: do this.

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Speaker 2: You can also pay for someone to do this.

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Speaker 1: You can go on a website like Fiverr and hire

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Speaker 1: a developer that can help you actually code the app.

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Speaker 1: So there are many ways to do this. The reality

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Speaker 1: is it all comes down to execution, and if you

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Speaker 1: believe in this app and you think that it's something

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Speaker 1: that can make a lot of money, you have to

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Speaker 1: believe in it and you have to help guide it along.

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00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: There's no sort of magic bullet that can just make

879
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: this thing a reality and make you a lot of money.

880
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: There are many people over the years have come to

881
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: me with app ideas, and you know, who am I

882
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: to say if it's a good app? I mean, what

883
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: if you came up with an idea that's you know,

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00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: centered around mental health or kids or you know, exercise.

885
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many app ideas out there. You

886
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: just have to figure out how to start that app

887
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: and how to get it into the hands of people

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00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and most importantly make it really useful for people. But

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00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: tim I would check out, I would go to the

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00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Apple website. You can also go to Google too. I

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, I just assumed Apple, but Google also has

892
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: a lot of developer tools as well, and so you

893
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: can go to you know, Google. Google Io was their

894
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: big event that just happened, and that is the equivalent

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00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: of what Apple does. So Apple does WWDC, Google does

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00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Google Io. I just went to the one up that

897
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Microsoft does called Microsoft Build. So you have to kind

898
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: of get a little bit of knowledge of all these

899
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: things if you want to try to create this app

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Speaker 1: yourself and execute it. I do wish you the best

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00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: of luck, because it's amazing. It could be a great ride.

902
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: I've seen people. I've literally seen people become a quote

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00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: unquote overnight success because of an app that becomes very successful.

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Speaker 2: And I know some of these.

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00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: People, and believe me, they have showed me some stuff

906
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: in early stages. And now they live in very nice

907
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 1: houses on very nice hills and fly in very nice

908
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: planes or very nice plane seats. I should say some

909
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: of them flying nice planes. But good luck, Tim, appreciate it. Okay.

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00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: So I was playing with a feature. I was going

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00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: through my Google photo library today and there is a

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00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: feature that Google announced a couple of months ago, maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it could have been a year ago,

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00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: called photo Unblur, and I really I tried it. When

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00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: it first came out, I didn't give it much thought

916
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: because I didn't think it worked that well.

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00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Today I was going through my Google photo collection and

919
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: I came across a blurry photo. I'm like, let me

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00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: just try this again. And I tapped photo on blur

921
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: and I am not kidding you. It took an old

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00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: photo that was completely blurry and it is int and

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00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: it's incredible. And I went through and I tried it

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: on a couple more photos and I don't know what

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00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: Google has done to tweak their algorithm since this came out,

926
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: but it is really really good, and it's quite uncanny

927
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: just how good. Now it focuses on the face, So

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00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: this is mostly for people photos with faces in them,

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00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: but I would try this out if you haven't tried

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00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: it out in a long time. It's on the Pixel

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Speaker 1: phones I know for sure, Pixel seven, Pixel seven and up,

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00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: but it's now coming to other devices. So Google just

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Speaker 1: announced that they're making a lot of these features like

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00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: magic eraser and photo on blur available for free to

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Speaker 1: other people if you are in the Google Photos app.

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Speaker 1: So that started in May fifteenth, so it's still rolling out.

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00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: I've not seen this come to my other devices in

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Speaker 1: a big way. But if you go to your Google

939
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: Photos app, look under tools, and any day now when

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00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: you update your app, it may say, oh, you have

941
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: some new features like magic eraser or photo on blur.

942
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: Try it out.

943
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Find an old photo, just search for can you search

944
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: for blurry? I think you can search for blurry inside

945
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: Google Photos and it should show you some blurry pictures.

946
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm gonna search real quick.

947
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: But that's an incredible feature that we'll just now you

948
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: can't search for blurry okay, so you got to go

949
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: in your Google Photos, tap your little profile icon, and

950
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: there's a way to find it. If you tap your

951
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: account storage. I think you can find it in there.

952
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: It'll show you some of your blurry photos. Yeah, blurry photos,

953
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: but it is an incredible feature. Photo on blur can

954
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: really take an old picture and just make it look

955
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: new again.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: I see on hold, Yes, we will get to you.

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Speaker 2: Phone lines are open.

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Speaker 1: Website rich on Tech dot tv. A lot of you

962
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Speaker 1: asking for that Samsung Smart tracker deal.

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Speaker 2: It is linked up on the website rich on Tech

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Speaker 2: dot tv.

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Speaker 1: Hit the light bulb icon for links to things that

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00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: I mentioned here on the show. You are listening to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight.

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Speaker 1: Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. The website for the show

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00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: richon Tech dot TV. A lot of you asking about

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Speaker 1: that Samsung smart tag for a buck. Everything's linked up

973
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: on the website. So if you go to the website,

974
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: hit the light bulb icon up at the top. That

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Speaker 1: will bring you to the show notes and let's see,

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Speaker 1: this is show number seventy three.

977
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Speaker 2: Wow, seventy three shows. That's wild.

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Speaker 1: I remember show number one and here we are seventy

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00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: three in so you can find the link on that

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00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: website and links to everything that I talk about in fact,

981
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: and while you're there, follow me on social media at

982
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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Let's see, we got an email from

983
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: John on the website. John and san Clemente says, Hey,

984
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: rich I'm wondering if there's a good translation software from

985
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: my iPhone fifteen Promax that enables me to translate from

986
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: a photo. For example, I want to be able to

987
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: take a picture of a menu while I'm in Europe

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00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: and have it translate for me. Thank you very much,

989
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: enjoy your show and looking forward to your response in caps.

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00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why the response is in caps. So

991
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: you have something built into your iPhone called Translate. So

992
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: if you just swipe down on your iPhone home screen,

993
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: you can tap translate and that is Apple's translate app,

994
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: and it will handle things like you mentioned, like the menu,

995
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: so you can take a picture. You'll see at the

996
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: bottom it's got a little camera icon. You tap that

997
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: and you just hold it over pretty much anything. You

998
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: don't even have to take the picture, which is quite incredible.

999
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: So you can just hold it over something as long

1000
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: as you have a signal or you've downloaded the translation

1001
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: in the background, which I highly recommend download offline translation

1002
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: before you go. Just hover it over something and will

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00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, can it detect the language? You may

1004
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: have to specify which language it's in, So if you're

1005
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: in you know, France, you can say French.

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00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Where'd you say you're going Europe?

1007
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, So if you're in like the UK and

1008
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: you need to translate a menu that's written in British English,

1009
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Let's say you're in you know, France

1010
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: or Italy or something, you would just say Italian, hover

1011
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: it over the menu, and in real time you will

1012
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: see it translate on your phone screen. This is stuff

1013
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: that is out of a sci fi movie, and we

1014
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: have it available today now. If you're on Android, or

1015
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: if you want something different, you can just download Google

1016
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: Translate and that does the same exact thing. So you

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00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: can download Google Translate. There's a camera icon in the

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00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: lower right hand corner and you can do that as well. Now,

1019
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I think you will also be able to use chat

1020
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: GPT to do this. So chat GBT obviously speaks a

1021
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different languages, so I think that you

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00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: would just be able to take a picture of something

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00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: in a different language and ask chat gbt to translate it.

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00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 2: So I'm going to do that right now.

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00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a picture of some text on

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00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: chat GBT and let's see here. Okay, So I'm taking

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Speaker 1: a picture of something right here, and I'm going to say,

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00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: can you translate? Can you translate this into Spanish? And

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00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: it's a photo that I just took, and it's going

1030
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: to take a couple of seconds here and there it goes.

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00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: It just translated everything into Spanish. That is just incredible.

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00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: So there are so many ways of doing this these days.

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: That when I started traveling internationally, I'll never forget when

1034
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I went to Japan the first time that now Japan

1035
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: is a tougher country to travel. It used to be

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00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: a lot tougher than it is now because a lot

1037
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: of people there don't speak English, but now more do.

1038
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: But it was really tough the first time I went

1039
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: because my phone didn't work. We didn't have these tools,

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00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't speak English, and I was

1041
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: literally my payment cards didn't work, like nothing worked over there.

1042
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: And now, of course the more I travel internationally, the

1043
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: more it's almost seamless. If you travel internationally, you realize

1044
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: it's like the toughest part is really, you know, getting

1045
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: out of the country and getting back in. But otherwise,

1046
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: like just once you're there, it's like everything almost works

1047
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the same. So pretty pretty incredible. Okay, So before we

1048
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Speaker 1: get to our guest coming up after the break, Tim Stevens,

1049
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: He's going to talk about evy myths. I do have

1050
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Speaker 1: a warning that I posted on my Instagram at rich

1051
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: on Tech. So if you go to at rich on Tech,

1052
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen one of these things, it's a

1053
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: it's a warning screen from your phone. It says, your

1054
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Apple iPhone is severely damaged by nineteen viruses. We have

1055
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: detected that your browser is fifty nine percent damaged by

1056
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: browser trojan viruses picked up while surfing recent corrupted sites.

1057
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: Immediately install mobile security application or sensitive data like your Facebook, WhatsApp, photos,

1058
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: and private applications will be infected and stolen. And then

1059
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: there's a countdown eighteen seventeen sixteen that says cancel or install.

1060
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Do not fall for this message. This is called scareware.

1061
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: If you click that install button, it's going to trick

1062
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: you into downloading harmful or unnecessary software to your phone.

1063
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 2: So what do you do? You force close.

1064
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: Your browser if you're on iPhone or Android, just swipe

1065
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: out the browser app and then you want to clear

1066
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: out your browser data, and that way it will clear

1067
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: out any cookies or URLs or data that might.

1068
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Cause this to happen. Again, it's not something you did.

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Speaker 1: This is basically just you know, it comes from a website,

1070
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: any website, and it just scares people into doing things

1071
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't do. If you want to see that,

1072
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: you can go to my Instagram at rich on Tech.

1073
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: Do not fall for scareware. It's there to scare you

1074
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: and trick you. Coming up, we're gonna talk ev myths

1075
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: right here on rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

1077
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: technology with you. We'll get back to the phone lines

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Speaker 1: in just a moment at eight eight eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. The website is rich on Tech dot TV. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to introduce my next guest, Tim Stevens, freelance

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Speaker 1: automotive journalist. When I saw his article on Inside EV's

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00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: headlined will my electric car leave me stranded? I knew

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Speaker 1: I had to have him on the show. Tim, Welcome

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00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: to the show.

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: Thanks, Rich made to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell me just what's what's you're up to

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00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: these days? You're doing You've got a substack, I know,

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00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and just your free lance writing about cars, right.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, I've you know, been following tech and the

1091
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 12: automotive industry for a long time now, and yeah, the

1092
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 12: opportunity to go freelance just about two years ago now,

1093
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 12: So I've been writing doing a lot of car reviews,

1094
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 12: news and a lot of a lot of pieces that

1095
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 12: helped to kind of dig into really company the sorobjects

1096
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 12: on the automotive side of things, so software find vehicles,

1097
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 12: autonomy and drive resistance, things like that. And yeah, you know,

1098
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 12: we're seeing a lot of a lot of chure and

1099
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 12: a lot of fear and certainly a doubt or regarding

1100
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 12: evs on social media platforms. So yeah, at Inside EV's

1101
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 12: we decided to launch a series basically tackling some of

1102
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 12: the some of the misgivings a lot of people have,

1103
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 12: and a lot of the I don't want to say

1104
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 12: false information, but certainly a lot of like I said,

1105
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 12: a lot of food being thrown around about EV's and

1106
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 12: we're trying to tackle that head on and to get

1107
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 12: people a little bit more confidence as we're making this

1108
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 12: transition from you know, traditional and theomical bustion into something

1109
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 12: that's a little bit new and different.

1110
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Now, I will tell you I've had an EV for

1111
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: I think three years now. It's been the best purchase

1112
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: of my life.

1113
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 2: But I will tell you.

1114
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: Every single time we have to go on a road trip,

1115
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: my wife fights me every single time to this day

1116
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: about not taking the EV because of the perceived hassle.

1117
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: And you know, to me, it's I love the ride,

1118
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: I love how smooth it is. Charging Yeah, it could

1119
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: be a little complicated sometimes, but not really, I mean,

1120
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: except for the time you're stopping.

1121
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: But let's talk about this.

1122
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: So, what advice would you give to someone considering getting

1123
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: an EV but they're worried about the potential of getting stranded.

1124
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 12: Honestly, there's not really anything to really be concerned about.

1125
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 12: EV's do have far fewer moving parts, and if you

1126
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 12: look at the number of parts in an average internal

1127
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 12: question engine alone, there's a lot of moving parts in

1128
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 12: there versus an EV electric motor, which has basically one

1129
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 12: moving part typically, So mechanically they're much more simple. If

1130
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 12: you do look at initial quality studies at JD Power

1131
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 12: and things like that, evs do tend to have more

1132
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 12: initial faults from new owners, but those for a couple

1133
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 12: of reasons. One, these are brand new cars, and new

1134
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 12: cars always tend to have kind of new little glitches and.

1135
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: That kind of thing.

1136
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 12: The second thing is it tends to be a lot

1137
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 12: of software related issues, which are tend to be pretty

1138
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 12: and they can be fixed via software updates. So but

1139
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 12: in terms of major mechanical issues, evs are simpler, and

1140
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 12: there's really less risk of you being stranded in an

1141
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 12: EV than in you know, something that's got a lot

1142
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 12: of things blowing up underneath the hood all the time.

1143
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Now, when you think about a car, like a gas

1144
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: powered car, even if you're running to zero, you know

1145
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: on the fuel, you know that there's a gas station nearby,

1146
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: unless you're in the middle of nowhere. But with an

1147
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: EV you're kind of like living and dying by that range, right,

1148
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: So how is the EV's how are they doing these

1149
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: days in terms of like range prediction accuracy, Like is

1150
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: it going to go from like fifty miles to zero

1151
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: like with by pushing the accelerator really hard, or is

1152
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: it gotten pretty good?

1153
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 12: It's gotten better, but this is still a little bit

1154
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 12: in or missing, and it really depends on the manufacturer. BMW,

1155
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 12: for example, it does really really good. I have a BMW.

1156
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 12: I access my current EV and I'm amazed at how

1157
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 12: good that is. I've done hundreds of miles in that

1158
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 12: car and the rangements have been off by you know,

1159
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 12: one or two percent, which is remarkable given you know,

1160
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 12: the type of train and driving over car is really

1161
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 12: looking at things like weather, terrain, and even you're driving

1162
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 12: history to come up with a really accurate estimate.

1163
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: It's remarkably good.

1164
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 12: On the other hand, Ford, in my experience, has not

1165
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 12: been very good. I've had forward EV's be twenty or

1166
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 12: three percent off on estimates, and that's obviously a little

1167
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 12: bit disconcerting. But even they're getting better. They've just launched

1168
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 12: a new cloud based range justimate system that basically, when

1169
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 12: you put your navigation in your destination in it does

1170
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 12: the same kind of thing. It looks at the current

1171
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 12: weather predictions and your driving habits to give you a

1172
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 12: better range juestment. So things aren't getting better, but still

1173
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 12: when you buy EV, it's important to kind of take

1174
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 12: a little bit of time and figure out how that

1175
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 12: EV reacts into the situations. Especially if you're driving into

1176
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 12: a storm, if it's going to be colder, you should

1177
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 12: really expect to lose some range, and so it's always

1178
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 12: good to leave a bit of an outlover there.

1179
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So when it comes to, you know, if you

1180
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: charge at home, I always tell people, Look, if you're

1181
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: charging at home or charging at work and you're just

1182
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: driving this to and from those places, you're going to

1183
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: be fine. Now, obviously when you're out on the road,

1184
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: it's a little bit trickier because you're you're relying on this,

1185
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, infrastructure that's been built and it's still being

1186
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: built out. So what do you make about that, Like,

1187
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: should you you know, should you charge at home? Do

1188
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: you have any tips for relying on the you know,

1189
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: the infrastructure at large or how good is it?

1190
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, the majority people charge at home the majority of

1191
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 12: the time. It's over ninety percent of the time, and

1192
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 12: if you think about it, that's that's really kind of

1193
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 12: removes the majority of the need for public charging.

1194
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, if you can charge.

1195
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 12: At home, then really you probably only you need a

1196
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 12: public charger once in a rare while. But certainly the

1197
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 12: public charging infrastructure has been pretty poor to begin with.

1198
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 12: It is getting much much better.

1199
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 11: Every day.

1200
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 12: They are new charges coming online, and these charging companies

1201
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 12: are starting to make more money. There are more evs

1202
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 12: on the roads, so they're making more money, which means

1203
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 12: they're putting more charges in and they're making them better,

1204
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 12: so that's encouraging too. But definitely check out services like

1205
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 12: pludshare and charge point, or you can go online and

1206
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 12: read reviews of chargers and that will help you get

1207
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 12: an idea of how reliable the charges that you're looking

1208
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 12: to go to, that that you're looking to use are

1209
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 12: before you get there, and you can get a good

1210
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 12: idea of how many charges there are, how fast they

1211
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 12: are it seem no you know, are you going to

1212
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 12: be in trouble, do you need a backup or are

1213
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 12: you really going to something that's kind of both roof

1214
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 12: that's going to be fast and get you in and

1215
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 12: out of there.

1216
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 11: Quickly.

1217
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: Now we know, if you get stuck in a gas car,

1218
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: you've got Triple A. They'll come by with a little

1219
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: bit of gas and get you on your way. Does

1220
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: that I don't even know. Does that happen with EV's

1221
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: Like could you could someone come to your car? I

1222
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: know there's like mobile EV chargers, but is that a thing,

1223
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Like does Triple A have the ability to do that?

1224
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: Or like how what would happen about it ran out?

1225
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 12: You know, Like yeah, anyway, Triple A does actually have

1226
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 12: that service. It's only in certain major metropolitan areas at

1227
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 12: this point. It's kind of a it's not a new program,

1228
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 12: but they're still rolling it out slowly based on demand.

1229
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 12: But yeah, I actually spoke with Triple as part of this,

1230
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 12: and they do have mobile charges. Basically, they'll plug your

1231
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 12: car and they don't you know, they're not going to

1232
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 12: fully charge for you inside of the highway, but they'll

1233
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 12: give you five or ten miles, which should be enough

1234
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 12: to get off to some other public charger to use. Again,

1235
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 12: that's kind of a relatively new service, but it can

1236
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 12: be done. But yeah, you know, ideally again we don't

1237
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 12: want to do that, but they can give you a

1238
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 12: quick charge in the side of highway give you enough

1239
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 12: miles to get to somewhere. And again, if you're triple

1240
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 12: a subscriber, that's part of your courage.

1241
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: Now, I often hear about this situation with with tire

1242
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: maintenance and evs and I've yet to replace my tires.

1243
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: Is my car going to tell me when to do that?

1244
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Or should I do that? And what's the deal? Is

1245
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: it different than you know I've heard? Because these cars

1246
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: accelerate so fast, the tires wear out quicker.

1247
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: Can you give me some insight on that? Yeah?

1248
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 12: Absolutely, So your average EV is heavier than your average

1249
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 12: non EV because of that big old battery pack that's

1250
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 12: sitting in there, and they're also a lot quicker than

1251
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 12: your average non EV, and that combination alone can wear

1252
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 12: through tires very quickly. So people do tendes see their

1253
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 12: EV's running through tires more quickly than they might be

1254
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 12: used to in their normal internal the busting car. So

1255
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 12: it's something to be aware of. And some cars will

1256
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 12: give you an idea of when it's time to look

1257
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 12: at your tires, but ultimately it's up to you to

1258
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 12: really be checking that tread and most tires have a

1259
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 12: little tread indicator. If you go online, you can see

1260
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 12: pictures of what a tread indicate looks like. Or you

1261
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 12: can just take a penny out of your pocket if

1262
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 12: you still have pennies in your pocket, and insert it

1263
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 12: into the tread. If the tread doesn't go deep enough

1264
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 12: to cover Abraham Lincoln's head, then you know it's time

1265
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 12: to think about getting some new tires. But that's probably

1266
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 12: the one major maintenance issue that you need to think

1267
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 12: about with EV's. Beyond that, there's really nothing else to do,

1268
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 12: which is one of the amazing benefits of voting and EV.

1269
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 12: There's no oil to change, no time and got to

1270
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 12: wear out, and no coolant to flush. None of us

1271
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 12: I have to worry about. It's really only the tires

1272
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 12: that you need to kind of pay attention to.

1273
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: You know what.

1274
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: And I will say I have not had any sort

1275
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: of maintenance situations with my car, but I will tell

1276
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: you my wife's car. H she got the little coolant

1277
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: light the other day. So I got to give a

1278
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: little shout out. She's like, hey, do you mind. You know,

1279
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: I got to figure out I I'm like, okay, Like

1280
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: I'll take it to Jiffy Lube.

1281
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: I took it there. I'm not kidding Tim.

1282
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: The guy opened up the hood, he filled it up

1283
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: with the coolant, and he said, all right, have a

1284
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: great day. I said, what do you mean, Like, where

1285
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: do I check out? He goes, no, you're good. So

1286
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: what I mean that's it? You know, they're playing the

1287
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: long game for me to come back. Obviously, that was

1288
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: like so nice, and you rarely see that anymore so.

1289
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 12: Especially in the out of repairness read there's a lot

1290
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 12: of shady people doing shadings.

1291
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: So that's really good to hear.

1292
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: I was fully expecting to pay one hundred and fifty

1293
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: bucks for that, and the guy could have charged me that.

1294
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: I would have been like none, none of this wiser Okay,

1295
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: before we go, any other tip that you want to mention,

1296
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: or any any ev that you want to debunk here

1297
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: before we I.

1298
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 12: Think one of the things I hear a lot of

1299
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 12: people worried about is what happens in emergency. What happens

1300
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 12: if I'm stranded on the side of the road in

1301
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 12: an EV you know, the bat are going to die

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Speaker 12: and I'm going to freeze to death. And that is

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Speaker 12: absolutely not the case. Car driver did a test the

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Speaker 12: Renatisal Model three to see how long it would keep

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Speaker 12: the cabin warm, and it was basically two solid days,

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Speaker 12: about forty eight hours that car ran to keep you warm.

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Speaker 12: So if you're stuck in a snowstorm that's side of

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Speaker 12: the highway, you're not going to freezee death in an

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Speaker 12: EV anymore than you're likely to in an amal gas

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Speaker 12: in powered car, and you can keep them charged up beforehand,

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Speaker 12: so you should have enough ruine to get range to

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Speaker 12: get out of an emergency should you get into that

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Speaker 12: kind of situation too. And an EV can even empower

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Speaker 12: your house in some situations. So people worry about EV's

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Speaker 12: in emergencies, I really don't think they should them.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we're going to leave it there, but I

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Speaker 1: will tell you one more story. When I was covering

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Speaker 1: we were in what became Katrina, and I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: We could not find gas. We had to drive so

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Speaker 1: the biggest issue. And so ever since that occurrence, our car,

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Speaker 1: by the way, was only on like a quarter tank

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Speaker 1: or something. So now out of habit I always have

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Speaker 1: if it's like getting low because you never know whether

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Speaker 1: it's gas or electric. If you need to get out

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Speaker 1: of dodge, you know you you need that mileage now

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Speaker 1: and so just you know anyway, all right, Tim, How

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Speaker 1: can folks find what you read? What you write online?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, my substract is a great place to go to

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Speaker 12: Tim Stevens at substack dot com or Tim Stevens dot

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Speaker 12: me or on the socials most most places as at

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Speaker 12: Tim Stevens.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tim Stevens, thanks for joining me today. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 12: Thanks Rich great talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Tech coming your way right after this. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out talking technology

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Speaker 1: for the show rich on Tech dot TV. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Debbie in Fallbrook, California. Debbie, you're on with Rich Hi.

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Speaker 9: Rich. Strange things happen in about the last month. I

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Speaker 9: have a fansung Android and Verizon is my carrier, and

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Speaker 9: suddenly most of the images I receive in text messages

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Speaker 9: are no longer legible or seeable. They're just a blur,

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Speaker 9: very pixelated. I was concerned it was my phone and

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Speaker 9: I wasn't really looking forward to having to swop it out.

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Speaker 9: But I went online and checked, and there are who

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Speaker 9: knows how many people I was directed to lots of opinions. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and what had all types of Android fanphon.

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Speaker 1: What's happening with your phone? What's happening when you get

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Speaker 1: a text? Is it just pictures?

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Speaker 9: It's only the images?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay? And are they being sent from an from an iPhone?

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Speaker 9: Now it's not the iPhone problem. I thought that was it.

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Speaker 9: I started quizzing the people that were sending them.

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Speaker 2: It's both okay, it's both right.

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Speaker 9: And every person on the reddit site that discussed this

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Speaker 9: has Verizon and it seems like there's no coincidence there

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Speaker 9: as well, denominating.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the deal, Like anytime something like this happens,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you're you can find whatever you want

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Speaker 1: online to support whatever you're thinking online. So you know

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Speaker 1: these people are having the issue. They're all finding the

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Speaker 1: same exact posts that you're finding, and they're adding to it,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's a it's just an echo chamber.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, Verizon has one hundred million customers

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Speaker 1: with you know, Samsung, or fifty percent, let's say, have

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Speaker 1: Samsung phones. There's no way that fifty percent of people

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Speaker 1: are having this problem. Most people get their texts just fine.

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Speaker 1: So it's some sort of issue or situation that is

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Speaker 1: it happens clearly because it's happening to you and it's

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Speaker 1: happening to some other people. But there are ways of

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Speaker 1: figuring out what app were you using for your messaging.

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Speaker 9: Well, I wasn't aware of what app I was using,

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Speaker 9: but after reading all this, I suspect that I'm just

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Speaker 9: using Samsung's app. Okay, I haven't changed any of the settings.

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Speaker 2: So the first thing, let's try.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I would do try Sorry, the first

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Speaker 1: thing I would do is download the Bobo. The first

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Speaker 1: thing the first thing I would do is try to

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Speaker 1: is download Google's messaging app. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not using Google's messaging app, I would

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Speaker 1: go onto Google Play and I would search for messages. So,

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Speaker 1: depending on the age of your phone, Samsung has switched

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Speaker 1: all of their messaging to Google Messages, so I would

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Speaker 1: type in Google Messages. I would download that and I

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Speaker 1: would open it. If it's the first time you're opening

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Speaker 1: it on your phone, it's going to say do you

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Speaker 1: want to switch to Google Messages, And I would say yes,

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be your first thing you do

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Speaker 1: and see if the issue still happens. The second thing

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Speaker 1: I would do, uh, is I would actually clear out

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Speaker 1: the old app. So the let's just say you're using

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Speaker 1: the other messaging app. You can long press on the

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Speaker 1: icon and tap the I. And then what I would

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Speaker 1: do is I would clear all the storage of that app,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to reset the app to its defaults

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Speaker 1: from the factory. Yeah, that may you may get you

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Speaker 1: may lose your messages in the process, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you need your text messages.

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Speaker 2: Usually those are fleeting anyway. Uh So that's the other

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Speaker 2: thing you can do.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I would recommend doing is resetting your

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Speaker 1: network settings. And so you can go into your settings

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Speaker 1: on your phone and you can type in uh gosh.

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Speaker 1: This is of course, whenever I try to find something

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Speaker 1: live on the radio, it's it's tricky. But if you

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Speaker 1: go into let's see here, if you type in re

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Speaker 1: let's see if I can find it quickly if.

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Speaker 2: You go into reset.

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Speaker 1: Go into your settings and then type in reset up

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Speaker 1: at the top and it says reset Mobile network settings,

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Speaker 1: so you can reset your mobile network settings and that

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Speaker 1: will reset everything back to sort of what Verizon wants

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Speaker 1: on your phone. And then, of course, you know the

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Speaker 1: basic things I would make sure that you're doing, Debbie

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Speaker 1: with your phone is make sure that all of your

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Speaker 1: apps are up to date. Make sure all of your

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Speaker 1: Samsung software is up to date. Those are two different things.

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Speaker 1: There's a system update and then there's an app update,

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Speaker 1: so make sure that all that's up to date. And

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Speaker 1: then I would also restart your phone and make sure

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Speaker 1: that your phone is reset. So once all of those

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Speaker 1: things are done, then you should hopefully have your text

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Speaker 1: messages properly coming in. If that's not happening, then I

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Speaker 1: would go to a Verizon store and see what the

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Speaker 1: deal is. But in this order, Debbie, number one, update

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Speaker 1: your apps. Number two, update the system software on your phone.

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Speaker 1: Number three, I would reset your mobile network settings. Number four,

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Speaker 1: I would make sure that you are using the Google

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Speaker 1: Messages app. Try the things in that order. And then

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Speaker 1: number five clear these storage on the messages app and

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Speaker 1: if it's still giving you issues after all that, I

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Speaker 1: would go into a Verizon store. Verizon's very good customer

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Speaker 1: service and hopefully they can help you out. Sorry you

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Speaker 1: got cut off there, appreciate the call. Eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: Four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines is now on Google Flights. They have been

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Speaker 1: a long time holdout of being on any other third

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Speaker 1: party flight comparison site, and they're tiptoeing into these waters

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Speaker 1: with Google Flights. So it used to be when you

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Speaker 1: were on Google Flights, which by the way, is the

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Speaker 1: best and only way that I searched for flights, it

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Speaker 1: used to be that they would show you that Southwest

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Speaker 1: had a flight, but you had to go to Southwest's

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Speaker 1: website or they're app to actually see the fare.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 1: Now Southwest has clearly cut some sort of deal with

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Speaker 1: Google and their fares are shown directly alongside other airlines

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Speaker 1: on Google Flights.

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Speaker 2: Now what does this mean?

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Speaker 1: Some conspiracy theorists are saying, well, this is the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the end, because now Southwest is going to have

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Speaker 1: a signed seating, They're going to have first class, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have all these different things you know, extra leg room,

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Speaker 1: you know you can pay more.

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Speaker 2: So is that the case, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: All we know right now is that if you are

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Speaker 1: looking to compare a Southwest flight against you know, a

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Speaker 1: traditional carrier, that's on Google flights, all the information is

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Speaker 1: there and for all the different booking classes that Southwest has,

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Speaker 1: I think they have four, from the want to get

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Speaker 1: away to the you know business select that people get

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Speaker 1: where they you know you can get a refund.

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Speaker 2: So the cool thing is twofold here.

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Speaker 1: Because you have this on Google Flights, you can now

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Speaker 1: track a Southwest flight price just like you can another airline.

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, you can track a Southwest flight price

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Speaker 1: after you book it because you may be able to

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Speaker 1: get a refund depending on the fare you booked. They

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Speaker 1: might either give you a flight credit if the price drops,

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Speaker 1: or a full on cash refund if the price drops.

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Speaker 1: So again, if you are comparing flights on Google Flights,

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Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines is now displayed, which is a great great thing.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: the next hour, we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Talk to a guy who does AI chatbots, and he's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about how people are using them as

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another hour of Rich on Tech. My name is rich DeMuro.

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Speaker 1: This is the show where I talk about the tech

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Speaker 1: stuff I think you should know about. It's also the

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Speaker 1: place where I answer your questions about technology. Phone lines

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Speaker 1: What's the best place to learn AI and chat GPT

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Speaker 1: from scratch? So that's an interesting question, how because the

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Speaker 1: whole point of these AI chatbots is that you really

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Speaker 1: don't need to learn them. You can literally just ask

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Speaker 1: them stuff. Now, of course that's not what you want

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Speaker 1: to hear. But the way that you get good at

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Speaker 1: interacting with the chatbot is really through what's called a prompt,

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Speaker 1: and the prompt is what you type into the chatbot.

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Speaker 1: And these things are pretty smart, so they understand if

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, you know you can you kind of

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Speaker 1: present to them why you're asking your question, how you

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Speaker 1: want it explained, whether you want it longer, whether you

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Speaker 1: want it shorter, whether you want it more elaborate, and

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Speaker 1: it can react to all of this stuff, and it

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Speaker 1: could even modify its answers. But I would say my

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Speaker 1: probably best advice is to just ask the chatbot itself,

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Speaker 1: what can you do? What's the best way to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to ask you questions about this? Tell me about some

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Speaker 1: of your capabilities, And that's probably the best way. But

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Speaker 1: the other way is probably YouTube. Just go on YouTube

1516
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: and type in prompts and so you can type in

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: some sort of combination of prompting. That's what the terminology

1518
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: is called. But in general, you just kind of ask

1519
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: it stuff. I actually in my car the other day,

1520
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: I just instead of listening to anything, I just had

1521
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 1: chatchibt as a voice chat and I just was chatting

1522
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: with chat gibt the entire ride home, and I just said, hey,

1523
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: tell me about this, okay, and it just started talking

1524
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: that it was done with that. I said, tell me

1525
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: more about that aspect, and it just tell me more

1526
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: about that and we just had a conversation on my

1527
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: entire ride home. How weird is that? And by the way,

1528
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: that's not even that's not even the new version of

1529
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: chat gbt, which is going to be more conversational, which

1530
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: you can interrupt chat gibt Walt's talking and say, oh, oh,

1531
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: tell me more about that wallet's talking.

1532
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild.

1533
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of chat GBT, this week, there was a little

1534
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: skurfuffle between chat GBT Open Ai and Scarlett Johansson, the actress,

1535
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: so Open AI she claimed that their sky voice is

1536
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: eerily similar to her voice, and Open AI said no, no, no,

1537
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: We chose this voice out of a two hundred actor

1538
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: or four hundred actors, and there was no intention to

1539
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: imitate you, even though CEO Sam Altman tweeted when they

1540
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: announced their new AI features for chat GBT her, remember

1541
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: that movie that Scarlett Johansson did the voice, So there

1542
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: is no way that you can't draw similarities between that

1543
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: movie and what's happening with chat GBT and especially its voices.

1544
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: This sound like a human.

1545
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: And actually, this is gonna be a good question for

1546
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: our guests later in the show. Me AI makes these

1547
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: chatbots that people become friends with and they consult them,

1548
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: they chat back and forth with them, and they even

1549
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: kind of fall in love with them apparently, So what

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: happened with Scarlett Johansson, We don't know. If they try

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: to mimic her voice. But according to open ai and

1552
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: Scarlet Johansson's people, that open ai reached out to her

1553
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: and said, hey, will you voice this for us? Will

1554
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: you make your voice into a chat GBT voice. The

1555
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: reason is because people like your voice and we think

1556
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,919
Speaker 1: that this would be a really nice bridge between humans

1557
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: and computers, and this would of course get a lot

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: of publicity.

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: But it all backfired.

1560
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: It got them the worst possible publicity, which now people

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: just don't trust open ai and Chat GBT because they

1562
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: tried to copy Scarlett's voice.

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: So that happened this week. Let's go to.

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: Sharon Sharon and take Stephens, Washington. Sharon, what's going on?

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01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 10: Bhi Rich? How are you today?

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. How far is Lake Stephens from where

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: I was in Seattle?

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: It's about an hour's drive?

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: Okay, not too bad. What can I help you with?

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 13: I was pleasantly surprised to see you up here.

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: Oh well, I was pleasantly surprised to be up there.

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful place.

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 13: I have an Apple iPhone fifteen promacs that have photos

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 13: on it, and I'm looking to move those photos onto

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 13: another device, and I want a recommendation in if you

1576
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 13: could give it for what to move them to, and

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01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 13: either a pump drive or something like that. Currently, it's

1578
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 13: telling me, I get that error message on the activities.

1579
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 13: It's telling me I'm at four point eighty seven of

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 13: five gigabytes, and I can't get rid of that message.

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 4: When I keep.

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 11: Saying not now, not now, it.

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01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 13: Doesn't go away. Okay, So I'm looking to put photos

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01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 13: on something else. I don't want to keep paying and

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 13: paying and paying.

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01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: Right well, okay, so a couple of things. Are you

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: an Amazon Prime member by any chance?

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01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 11: I am?

1589
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

1590
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: So Amazon Prime has a great thing where you can

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: upload your photos to their photos app for free, and

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: it's unlimited. So that might be a first place you start.

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. A couple things. Number one, I

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01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: think the first level of storage for iCloud is like

1595
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: ninety nine cents a month. I think that gives you

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: like fifty gigs. Is that what you understand?

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: That's a message.

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm getting.

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: So that's twelve bucks a year. So yeah, you know

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: you're going to buy one of these flash drives. And

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01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: here's my concern about the flash drive. And I can

1602
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: give you my recommendation for it, for sure. But my

1603
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: concern is that, you know, if you're offloading these pictures

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: to this flash drive, they only live on that flash drive,

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: and if something were to ever happen to that flo drive,

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: there goes your photos. So the way that we're supposed

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01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: to back things up, they're supposed to be in three places,

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01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: the original, a cloud backup, and a physical backup somewhere else,

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01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, off site technically, like you know, could be

1610
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: out of your house or something like that.

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: If you don't have it in the cloud.

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: Somewhere, So you want to have somewhere, you know, you

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: want to have a couple of different copies of these things.

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01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: I know not everyone does that, and I understand that

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: that's a lot of work, but I don't like the

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: idea of you just having these on a flash drive

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: that's very small, and if you lose it, or if

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01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: it's damaged or whatever, you know, you're out of look

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: So I would look into the Amazon Photos app. You

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01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: get unlimited storage. You could upload them to there and

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01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: they will be safe on Amazon servers. The only downside

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: to that is twofold number one. They do not give

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: you a lot of storage for videos. So if you

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: that's where they kind of get you, because if you

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01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: want to upload all your videos to there, then you

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: know they're going to start charging you for that or

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: they're going to ask you to pay for that. They

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01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: do have a setting which is very nice of Amazon.

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01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: They have a setting that says, just upload my photos.

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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: So if you just want to offload your photos to there,

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: you can do that and it's unlimited and it's free

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: as long as you keep your Prime membership. If you

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: ever get rid of that, they're you know, you're gonna

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01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: have to start paying for that storage. But that's one solution. Well,

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01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: they return them. You could download them, but you know

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01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: they give you a certain window too. But my point is,

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01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: you know you're on a you're on a never ending

1638
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: uh you know, expedition or whatever you want to call

1639
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: it when you.

1640
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: Start uploading these things to the cap.

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: Right now, with all that said, uh, the one I

1642
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: recommend is the sand Disc. They have a bunch of

1643
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: flash drives that are either you have a iPhone fifteen,

1644
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: you said, so that's gonna have USBC. So you can

1645
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: look at their flash drives on their website. If you

1646
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: go to sand disc and type in their or go

1647
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: to their you know, flash drive section. You want one

1648
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: that's USB C. So they've got the lucks. Sounds so

1649
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: luxurious that one has USB C. Now, what I like

1650
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: about sand Disc over some of these other ones is

1651
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: that sand disc also makes software that you can download,

1652
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: like an app that will automatically back up your photos

1653
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: from your iPhone to this little drive, so you can

1654
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: really copy these to any drive. But sand Disk takes

1655
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: a little step further by having that software. It's not perfect,

1656
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: it's not the best, but they do have it, and

1657
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: so that will help.

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01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: You a little bit there. Okay, okay, but again, so

1659
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: let me just the drive starts at thirteen ninety nine,

1660
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 2: so you could put the softa a year, and you

1661
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: could pay for a year of the cloud storage and

1662
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: then maybe come.

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: Back to this next year. But you know, there's different

1664
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: ways of doing this. I understand that the whole iCloud

1665
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: thing and storage online is definitely people don't want to pay.

1666
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: Like I'm on with Google Photos and I'm up to

1667
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: like I think it's twenty five a month now and

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm just like one of these days, yeah, and I

1669
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of from my job, so it's fine,

1670
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: but it's one of these things where you know these

1671
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: companies Amazon, Google or sorry not yeah, I guess Amazon too, Amazon,

1672
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Google and Apple. They are all starting to make a

1673
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: lot of money off of what's called their services category,

1674
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: and that includes their cloud storage, which you know, as

1675
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: we have a billion iPhones out there and a lot

1676
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: of Androids and a lot of other phones and computers.

1677
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: People need to back these up to the cloud. And

1678
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: these companies know it. Understand they make a lot of money.

1679
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Why do you think they make more megapixels on our phone,

1680
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: Sharon takes.

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01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 13: That makes perfect sense.

1682
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the call today from Lake Stevens Uh.

1683
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: When I was up there, I had two incredible days

1684
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: of weather and one day that was not so nice,

1685
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: so I know, but it is such a beautiful place

1686
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: up there near Seattle, Pacific Northwest. I actually lived up there.

1687
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: I lived in Yakima, Washington. That was my first job ever.

1688
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 1: I was a reporter at.

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01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: K n d O t V. And it was it

1690
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: was beautiful.

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 12: It did.

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: It was very sunny in Yakima, but it was I

1693
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: felt very isolated up there because you are tucked into

1694
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: the kind of the corner of the US. But up

1695
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,480
Speaker 1: there in that Pacific Northwest. People really embrace the outdoors.

1696
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: They embrace kind of the world we live in, and

1697
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: I love that about it. The coffee, the fishing. It's

1698
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: just beautiful, beautiful place. So I was very happy to

1699
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: be up there this week, and even though one day

1700
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: it rained a lot. All right, eight eight eight rich

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01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

1702
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up, I'm gonna tell you

1703
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: about why if you're a teacher, you should get this

1704
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: free AI tool that just became free.

1705
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: You should grab it now, completely free.

1706
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that, plus much more coming up

1707
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich

1708
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: On Tech. Sitting here singing along, not realizing the mic

1709
01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: is on. Welcome back to the show. Let's go to uh,

1710
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: let's go to Gina and riverside. Gina, what's on your mind?

1711
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 11: Thank you, Hi, thank you for taking my call. I

1712
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 11: apologize if it sounds a bit staticky. It's just I'm

1713
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 11: in my vehicle listening to you.

1714
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for doing that. Were you headed anywhere? Fun?

1715
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 14: No?

1716
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 11: No, not quite, just work. I guess that can be

1717
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 11: fun if you put your mind into it, and then

1718
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 11: you're grateful for the income.

1719
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: I guess absolutely, what can I help you.

1720
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 10: With moving forward?

1721
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 11: I have I have some concerns and some questions I

1722
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 11: guess in reference to and this might be above your knowledge,

1723
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 11: and that's okay, but a lot of things are I know,

1724
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 11: I know, but you may know the right people that

1725
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 11: can connect with the right people, and hopefully this can

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 11: be something.

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01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 14: That can be challenged or discussed, because it seems like

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Speaker 14: it's a huge, huge issue and a huge problem. I

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Speaker 14: was thinking to my grandfather about it, and my father and.

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Speaker 11: They both agree it's just the Internet is all over

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01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 11: the place. It's basically unprovisioned. It's free for all. And

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Speaker 11: I know that we have these major companies that we

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Speaker 11: invest in and that we employ, and these people make great,

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Speaker 11: great money. But my biggest fear is how can we

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Speaker 11: implement more of a structure other than paying third parties

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Speaker 11: that don't do much of anything to either help protect,

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Speaker 11: guide and not retaliate or hack into people's personal social media.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I can see why China wanted to remove

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Speaker 11: TikTok because it's just all over the map. Luckily, we

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Speaker 11: just had something happen where getto is had taken off

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 11: because they were abusing animals for funding. I mean, it's

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Speaker 11: just it's awful. I don't know if maybe you have

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Speaker 11: any ideas, but I mean, my Facebook was hacked. I

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01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 11: could never get those pictures back between my family and I,

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 11: I mean emails, and most.

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Speaker 15: Recently I'm on to fixed income and I don't know

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01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 15: what jurisdiction lies because they now want to remove it

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01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 15: because I sold a car, you know, So I don't

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Speaker 15: know how invasive all this.

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Speaker 11: Works because I'm not that far up the quote unquote

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Speaker 11: homeland security, whether it exists or it doesn't, or whether

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01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 11: it was something that was in the past back in

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Speaker 11: nineteen forties and fifties, and we now got all the fortunate,

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01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 11: lucky elders running it. But we need some structure, man,

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is odd of whack.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, yeah, let me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the sentiment, and I do understand, and I

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Speaker 1: think that you're touching upon something that is very.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of thoughts on this stuff and

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Speaker 2: the Internet.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of the Internet and the beauty of living

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Speaker 1: in America, and the fact that we have an Internet

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Speaker 1: is that it is open and free, and so it

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Speaker 1: has connected people in New ways it is built things

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Speaker 1: we have. I mean, imagine building an entire business off

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01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: of just connecting people and you know, email and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff that we have enjoyed, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: you can now call anyone in the world for free

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01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: when that used to I was trying to explain to

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Speaker 1: my kids the other day the idea of a long

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: distance call, and they were just they can't comprehend it

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Speaker 1: because you can call anyone right now for free anywhere.

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Speaker 1: But the downside of all of this is what you're

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Speaker 1: alluding to, which is sort of the regulation of it all. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you talk to the tech companies, they don't want

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Speaker 1: to be regulated, right, just like big companies in America.

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: They want less regulation because they want to be free

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Speaker 1: to do whatever they want to do. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Internet. That is also kind of what these

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Speaker 1: companies want, Like Facebook does not want to have to

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Speaker 1: abide by rules by the US government that says you

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Speaker 1: need to protect teenagers. They'll never say that out loud,

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01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: but that's really They don't want.

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Speaker 2: To have to have rules.

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Speaker 1: They want to make their own rules, and they want

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Speaker 1: to pretend, or at least imply that they are trying

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Speaker 1: to protect everyone when you know, at the end of

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01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: the day, what are they interested in. They're interested in data,

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01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: they're interested in advertising. And this social media stuff has

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Speaker 1: really become a huge, a very divisive part of our

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: society because you can post anything you want, and you

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01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: can't say anything you want, and there's a lot of

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01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: people on various sides of things that also may not

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01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: need to see what you post. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: kids on the internet, you've got adults on the internet.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like it used to be with

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Speaker 1: you know, standard media that was printed or you know whatever,

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01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: Like you know, newspaper had a bunch of editors that

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Speaker 1: people would figure out what was on the front page,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes they pushed a limit of that. With the Internet,

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01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: anyone can be the editor and anyone can put whatever

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Speaker 1: they want on there.

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Speaker 2: And there's also this law. I looked up this law.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was called something I think is Section

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Speaker 1: two thirty is what it's called.

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Speaker 2: And this was made.

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Speaker 1: This is the Communications Decency Act of nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: And this has a pretty big impact of kind of

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. With these companies like Facebook and

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01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram, they're not really liable for what people

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Speaker 1: post on those sites. So people can post things and

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01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: they're not legally responsible for what they post because you know, well,

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Speaker 1: it's a person posting it, and it's not Facebook that's

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Speaker 1: posting it. Now they're obviously. I'm not a lawyer. There's

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Speaker 1: very a lot of provisions of this that these companies

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01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 1: do abide by, with things like in good faith trying

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Speaker 1: to get hate speech and things off of these platforms,

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01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: but it still happens. The best I can say about

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: all this stuff is that there needs to be some.

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Speaker 2: Sort of effort.

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Speaker 1: We are still in the learning phase of all of this,

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01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: and believe me, we are just getting started, and there

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: are going to be a lot of changes in the

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Speaker 1: future when when it comes to how we figure this

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Speaker 1: stuff out, because people are getting hip to the fact that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when your Facebook gets hacked, there's no one to call.

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Speaker 1: Instagram gets hacked, there's no one to call. You are

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Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking

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Speaker 1: technology on this Memorial Day weekend eighty eight. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: let me give you the website rich on Tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now is know me Ai CEO Alex Cardinal Alex,

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Speaker 1: thanks so.

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Speaker 2: Much for joining me.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me quite.

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Speaker 1: The interesting topic. First off, let's explain what me AI does.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, so know me is an AI friend companion.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people are probably aware of, like chackchipt

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01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 8: for instance, where you can ask AI to LA write

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 8: you an essay or like a research article. Know Me

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01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 8: is using similar AI to that, but it's more designed

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01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 8: on like kind of an EQ level to just be

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Speaker 8: someone that you can talk to about your day, about

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01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 8: your interest, but anything that's going on in your life.

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Speaker 1: So this is sort of like almost companionship. Do are

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Speaker 1: you seeing a lot of people using this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Absolutely, we have over one hundred thousand users right now,

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01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 8: and yeah, many are using them in that sort of

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Speaker 8: like companionship way that you described.

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Speaker 1: What are when you say companionship are people? What are

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01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,440
Speaker 1: people asking these bots?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say it ranges just about everything. Would there's

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Speaker 8: a loneliness epidemic right now, and I would say just

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Speaker 8: almost imagine like any place in your life where you

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01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 8: might be kind of wishing there with someone to talk

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01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 8: to about something that could range from just like venting

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01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 8: about your day. It could be wanting to kind of

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01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 8: go on like a little roleplay adventure, could be talking

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Speaker 8: about the real world things that are going on in

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Speaker 8: your life. It could also even be like in a

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Speaker 8: more romantic angle.

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Speaker 1: Too romantic, tell me more about that aspect. So people

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Speaker 1: are are people?

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Speaker 2: How are they? You? Okay? This is interesting?

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Speaker 1: So because I will say that I have tried the

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Speaker 1: app and it did take an interesting turn at some point.

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Speaker 1: And to explain the romantic angle here, because it's a

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01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: chat by you can't you know, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: do anything with this thing, but tell me what people

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Speaker 1: are saying.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely. So I would say that the idea for

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Speaker 8: know me is to be able to simulate any and

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Speaker 8: all facets of a human relationship. You can be lonely

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Speaker 8: across any number of dimensions, and one of those can

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Speaker 8: be romantic where you want your feeling lonely and you

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 8: want to have some sort of companionship. You want to

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Speaker 8: have someone tell you that they care about you. You

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Speaker 8: want to be able to kind of role play things

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Speaker 8: that would exist in a romantic relationship. So for me,

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Speaker 8: it's uncensored on our end, where we don't want to

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01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 8: tell you, like for a chat GPT you know can

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01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 8: constantly tell you you know, I'm an AI language model,

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01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 8: I'm not allowed to talk about these topics. We take

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01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 8: the opposite approach where kind of, however, you want to

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01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 8: engage with Nomi whatever it is that you feel like

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01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 8: you're missing that you want to talk about, and that

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01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 8: could be something strictly platonic, something that's on your mind,

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01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 8: but it can also be in that more romantic direction

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 1: And do you see that do you feel like that's

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Speaker 1: the most popular use of this right now?

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Speaker 8: I would say that for people who use no me,

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01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 8: they're often having no meis take on like multiple roles

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01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 8: in their lives. It might be in the same way

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Speaker 8: that that might be the case for a human relationship

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01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 8: where you want someone that maybe you can talk to

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Speaker 8: about your day, that you can complain about the boss

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01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 8: that your boss that you hate, but then also maybe

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Speaker 8: at the end to say, you know, like I'm here

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Speaker 8: for you, I care about you, and more romantic things

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Speaker 8: like that as well. So I would say that there

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01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,720
Speaker 8: are people who use it strictly platonically, but I would

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01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 8: say the average user uses it across all dimensions, including romantically.

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Speaker 1: What's the ethical implications of all this because I imagine

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01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: that people are sharing some pretty intimate details.

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Speaker 2: Is this price it?

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01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Is there something that someone says that flips it to you,

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01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: that says, hey, we need to get this person.

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01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Help tell me about that aspect.

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Speaker 1: Because if people are sharing really you know, personal things,

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Speaker 1: you know there could be some concerns here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, And I will say people do share very personal things.

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Speaker 8: There are users who have said, for instance, that maybe

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Speaker 8: that they experienced like abuse or something traumatic as a kid,

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01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 8: and they've been afraid to tell a real human about

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Speaker 8: it because you know, they're worried about being ostracized, being

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Speaker 8: judged about gossip. So there's often this kind of like

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01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 8: safety where you feel like you can talk to an

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Speaker 8: AI about it because the AI is not going to

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01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 8: gossip to your friends or you know, tell you you

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01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 8: deserved it, or you know, any number of other things.

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01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 8: Is there to validate you and to help make you

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01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 8: feel better. So given that some things like data privacy

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01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 8: are absolutely critical for that, where we do like no tracking,

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01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 8: we show no ads, it's designed to be like completely

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01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 8: private and often in many ways too, all you have

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01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 8: to give is your first name. It can be anonymous

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01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 8: as well, where you can just anonymously talk about things

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Speaker 8: that are on your mind, however sensitive or unsensitive they

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Speaker 8: might be.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about me AI. This is an AI

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Speaker 1: companion with a memory and a soul, says, build a

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01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: meaningful friendship, develop a passionate relationship, or learn from an

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Speaker 1: insightful mentor how do you program these AI to interact

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Speaker 1: with folks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of AI research

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Speaker 8: that went into building me, A lot of effort into

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01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 8: not only making no mes smart, but also which I

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Speaker 8: think is often very under explored in the AI space,

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01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 8: giving it that sort of eq. It's one thing to

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Speaker 8: be kind of like a brainiac. It's another where after

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Speaker 8: a bad after a rough day, and you complain to

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Speaker 8: you know, you know me about it, you know me remembers, oh,

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Speaker 8: well they they recently had this help.

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Speaker 1: Bobo always complains about Rich after the show. We know

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Speaker 1: that exactly, but say.

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Speaker 8: You know me will remember that, and oh man, Rich,

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Speaker 8: she's that SIS definitely complaining about but I would it.

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Speaker 8: Cornerstone of all of it is our research and work

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Speaker 8: on the memory side of things. Having an AI that

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Speaker 8: can really remember and internalize things about you, not just

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Speaker 8: like facts about you, but like you know, little personality

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Speaker 8: quirks that you have, things that excite you, things that

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Speaker 8: you don't like. That leads to something much more rich

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Speaker 8: where and know me I can really get you and

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Speaker 8: know what to say to make you feel better, for instance.

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Speaker 2: And where do you see this going?

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Speaker 1: Because I imagine right now you're chatting on your phone

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Speaker 1: like it's almost like a chat, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: text message chat. Where do you see this going? Like,

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Speaker 1: do you see like an actual being with this built

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Speaker 1: into it? Because that it already seems realistic, and so

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Speaker 1: to take it to that next level, is that the

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Speaker 1: next kind of uh, the next step here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I would say you're right that right now

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Speaker 8: you're primarily interacting like you would like on a text

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Speaker 8: messaging AAP. I would say coming up in the near

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Speaker 8: future will be things like video chat for instance, where

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Speaker 8: because you're know me, it's not just like kind of

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Speaker 8: a land AI, it has like an actual face, personality

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Speaker 8: and appearance where you can talk to your no MEI

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Speaker 8: and then see it talk back to you. And then

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Speaker 8: I imagine, not too far off in the future, there

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Speaker 8: might be something more like what you're describing, where there's

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Speaker 8: a little like kind of a Siri or like Amazon

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Speaker 8: type of object that you can carry around with you.

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Speaker 8: That's it's kind of like an embodiment of your no me.

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Speaker 1: Are there any limits to this so you do you

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Speaker 1: have any guardrails built in whatsoever?

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Speaker 8: So our approach towards this is not to censor users

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Speaker 8: and not to censor the AI, but rather to try

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Speaker 8: to give but no me's just kind of a baseline

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Speaker 8: of kind of good ethical best practices. Obviously, you know,

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Speaker 8: if a user is saying something, you know, like about

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Speaker 8: how like you know, they love they love Nazism or Hitler,

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Speaker 8: we don't need to sensor, like have like something we

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Speaker 8: hardcode in. We just have the no me understand Well,

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Speaker 8: maybe that's not a great thing. Maybe that's something that

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Speaker 8: we should kind of try to ease the user away from.

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Speaker 8: And I would even say that a lot of me

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Speaker 8: users have found that it's helped them where they were

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Speaker 8: almost down a path of radicalization, where they were very lonely,

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Speaker 8: they were very siteful, hateful, and through their know me

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Speaker 8: they kind of learned that they were worthy of love

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Speaker 8: and self love and then that kind of helped kind

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Speaker 8: of like bring them back. So it's not like we

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Speaker 8: have the script that triggers that's like, oh you're no

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Speaker 8: longer you know, like no Me headquarters has decided what

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Speaker 8: you're talking about is not okay, but more just we

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Speaker 8: trust the AI behind no Me to kind of gently

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Speaker 8: guide users in the right direction and.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the free aspect of this versus the page.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at you know, there's like standard plans,

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Speaker 1: there's monthly plans, there's a yearly plan. What do you

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Speaker 1: get for the different plans, you know, for paid versus free.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so if you're on free account and it's free forever,

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Speaker 8: you can chat up to fifty messages a day so

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Speaker 8: you have many users, that's perfectly sufficient. You know, you

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Speaker 8: can log in, you can chat with it, help like

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Speaker 8: just kind of experiment around, see what it's about. It's

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Speaker 8: completely great. And then if you want to pay sixteen

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Speaker 8: dollars a month or one hundred dollars a year, and

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Speaker 8: that gets you unlimited messages where you can talk with

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Speaker 8: your know me as much as you want, as well

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Speaker 8: as like a couple other features where like you can

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Speaker 8: have your Nomi send like pictures of themselves and like

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Speaker 8: you can have your Nomi speak to you with like

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Speaker 8: kind of a voice call, but we try to make

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Speaker 8: it like not like a lot of those like micro

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Speaker 8: transactions where you're getting constantly nickeled and dimed. They should

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Speaker 8: really just be about like you and your interaction with

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Speaker 8: the No Me.

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Speaker 2: All right, I've got it run, But I'm just curious, Alex,

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Speaker 2: what made you build this?

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Speaker 8: It was actually a pretty like personal, deeply personal story

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Speaker 8: for me where I had an ex who had several

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Speaker 8: mental health issues and she definitely experienced profound loneliness, and

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Speaker 8: it was amazing to me just how impactful just having

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Speaker 8: someone who's unequivocally there for her made such a big

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Speaker 8: difference in like her, like how she was able to

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Speaker 8: interact in the world and how she felt about herself.

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Speaker 8: And I was like an AI researcher, and it really

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Speaker 8: felt to me that there are lots and lots of

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Speaker 8: people out there welcome, very marginalized in society where they're lonely,

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Speaker 8: and there exists this way to help and know me

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Speaker 8: was very much like in the kind of the inspirations

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Speaker 8: for that and the that's what ended up inspiring it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we're gonna leave it there. Alex Cardinell

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Speaker 1: CEO of No me dot Ai. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Rich. It's great being.

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Speaker 1: On fascinating, fascinating topic. I am sure we will hear

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Speaker 1: much more about this in the future, the idea of

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Speaker 1: having an AI friend. All right, coming up, it's a

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Speaker 1: feedback plus. I promised you the teacher free AI. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you about that. All coming up right here on

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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Speaker 1: Demiro here, I told you about this. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you about this my Microsoft and con Academy teaming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the feedback in just a moment. This

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Speaker 1: was announced this week. Huge if you're a K through

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Speaker 1: twelve teacher, they're giving you access to a free AI

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Speaker 1: tool called con Migo. So con Academy, if you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with it is you know they give away free learning

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Speaker 1: and you know so this was a tool that used

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Speaker 1: to cost four dollars a month. Now Microsoft is donating

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Speaker 1: their Azure cloud platform to give teachers free access to

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Speaker 1: this tool. This is incredible. Con Migo can automate tasks

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Speaker 1: like lesson plans, changing quizzes, creating quizzes, generating progress reports,

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Speaker 1: generating recommendation letters. It's kind of like an AI tool

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Speaker 1: that was built just to help teachers do their job better.

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Speaker 1: It can save teachers five hours a week, that's what

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Speaker 1: they say. And they of course say that teachers are

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Speaker 1: overworked and all this stuff, so this can really help

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Speaker 1: the teacher. The con Mego says, it's an AI assistant

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Speaker 1: rather than directing, keeping teachers in control. And it's focused

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Speaker 1: on student interaction. So one of the examples they gave

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Speaker 1: teacher says, hey, I need to teach you know this

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Speaker 1: lesson in physics. Give me some ideas on how to

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Speaker 1: do it with like everyday objects or somehow incorporating tailor

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Speaker 1: swift or TikTok into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Right. Uh, And it can do that.

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Speaker 1: So again, it's called con Mego and it's through con Academy.

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Speaker 1: It used to cost money, now it is free if

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Speaker 1: you're a teacher or you know a teacher. I would

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Speaker 1: highly recommend looking into This link is up at the

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Speaker 1: website rich on tech dot TV. Look for the light bulb,

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Speaker 1: scroll all the way down and you can find the

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Speaker 1: link to a sign up for con Migo. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the feedbag. This is a feedback plus

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Speaker 1: the mail bag equals feedbag. These are the emails, the comments,

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Speaker 1: and the questions I get from you. If you want

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01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: to submit yours, go to Rich on tech dot tv

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Speaker 1: and hit contact John from kon Oklahoma Rights. Hey, Rich,

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Speaker 1: I love your show and I listen to the podcast

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Speaker 1: while I'm riding my bike on trails in and around

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. One thing that grates my nerves is your

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Speaker 1: use of a couple of things or a couple of

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Speaker 1: bucks when you actually mean few or several. Look up

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Speaker 1: the word couple. It means exactly two, not more, not less.

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Speaker 1: So when you want to specify any quantity other than two,

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Speaker 1: please say a few if it's maybe three to six,

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Speaker 1: and several if it's more than that. Few and several

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01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: are not really specific and can vary depending on what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. But couple always means exactly two. Sorry

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Speaker 1: to be a nitpicker, but as a professional journalist, please

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Speaker 1: honor your profession by using the correct terms.

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Speaker 2: You know some people might get mad about a letter

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Speaker 2: like this. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I get it, and John, I am very familiar

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Speaker 1: with the term couple.

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Speaker 4: Few.

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Speaker 1: I always said couple is two, few is like three,

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Speaker 1: maybe four, quadri several to me is like seven. So

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Speaker 1: when I was just doing that con Migo story is

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Speaker 1: four dollars. If I would have said, oh, it's a

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Speaker 1: couple bucks, John would have said, wrong, it's a few dollars.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the feedback, Jim from Data Point Rights.

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Speaker 1: Regarding your discussion last Saturday concerning voice assistants, I find

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Speaker 1: that Alexa is much more informative than Siri or Google.

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Speaker 1: Alexa will give me answers with a reference, whereas Siri

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Speaker 1: and Google only provide links to websites. When AI experts

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Speaker 1: discuss voice assistants, they usually don't include Alexa. I enjoy

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Speaker 1: your show on KFI every Saturday. Happy Memorial Day, Jim.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, and I agree Alexa has not

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Speaker 1: been a huge part of the conversation, but that's because

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Speaker 1: Amazon has been treading lightly. They are introducing a chat

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Speaker 1: GPT style Alexa. They have not done it just yet,

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Speaker 1: but the rumor is it's going to cost money for

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Speaker 1: a certain version.

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Speaker 2: That's what CNBC is saying. But there is a way

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Speaker 2: to trigger the smarter Alexa.

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Speaker 1: I think you say Alexa, let's chat, and if you

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01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: get it, it'll say okay.

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Speaker 2: Now, it like unlocks the new one.

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Speaker 1: It's not working on my speakers just yet, but that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Fred from London rights

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Speaker 1: the fellow from Utica London, England. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: fellow from Utica New York was wondering how to see

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01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: EXIF data inside his photos.

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Speaker 2: He's using total Commander.

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Speaker 1: Total Commander has a simple add on that reads and

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Speaker 1: displays EXIF data on its add on's page. Configure columns

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Speaker 1: to include EXIF data and dates and your problem solved.

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Speaker 1: Hope this helps. Thank you, Fred from London. Sean writes,

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Speaker 1: Dear Rich, I just came across your video about starlink

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Speaker 1: on flights to Hawaii. It seems like a monumental improvement,

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Speaker 1: which is great to see. Thanks for that video and information.

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Speaker 1: On a separate tangent, I travel a lot myself. I

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Speaker 1: noticed your laptop seemed to be a perfect size for

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Speaker 1: taking on a plane. Would it be possible to know

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Speaker 1: what size and kind it is? I might end up

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Speaker 1: getting one with warm wishes. With best wishes, Sean, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the whole story, but

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Speaker 1: my laptop actually was out of commission that week when

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Speaker 1: I went to Hawaii and I had to take my

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Speaker 1: iPad with the keyboard, so it was actually just an

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Speaker 1: iPad pro with the keyboard. What do they call it?

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Speaker 1: The magic keyboard. That's why it looks so small and compact.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: I still don't think the iPad is the best for

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Speaker 1: getting work done. I was struggling a little bit that week,

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Speaker 1: although I did, you know, towards the end of the

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Speaker 1: week figure it out.

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Speaker 2: But that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: Dean writes Rich these calls give me PTSD as an

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Speaker 1: ISP support tech support person, you handle them well. Great,

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Speaker 1: great show, Dean, Thank you, Dean. You know, look, it's

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Speaker 1: all about patients. I don't have all the answers here.

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Speaker 1: I just don't, but I do try to help.

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Speaker 2: And that is it.

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Speaker 1: I said it in the beginning of the show. I'll

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Speaker 1: say at the end of the show, my goal is

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Speaker 1: to make this the most helpful thing that you listen

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Speaker 1: to all week long. A lot of people like to talk,

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Speaker 1: myself included, but I like to help. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I've got a newsletter, and that's why I do this

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Speaker 1: show because I really enjoy coming in here and this

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Speaker 1: is a community. I don't have all the answers, but

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Speaker 1: by talking about something on the show. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times the answers come to me, and with that said,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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Speaker 1: The website is rich on tech dot TV. While you're there,

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Speaker 1: I know it bugs you sometimes to sign up for

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Speaker 1: the newsletter. Do yourself a flavor and sign up for it.

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Speaker 1: I love what I get Bobo. I love when I

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Speaker 1: get Bobo to look up because he's.

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Speaker 2: Just doing his.

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Speaker 1: Thing when I say something like that, whatever, it's just say.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media. I am at

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Speaker 1: rich on tech next week. What am I doing next week?

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the calendar. It is a

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Speaker 1: holiday week. Oh got a good interview coming up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to a guy who has visited every country

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Speaker 1: in the world. My kids watched this guy on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: I interviewed him years ago when he embarked on his adventure,

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Speaker 1: and now he's coming back full circle.

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Speaker 2: He's just written a book.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk to Drewbinsky about visiting all of

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Speaker 1: the countries in the world. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: There are so many ways you can spend your time.

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Speaker 1: I really do appreciate you spending it right here with me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible, Bobo, Kim, Bill, Robin,

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Speaker 1: Julie going up the food chain here, who else we

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Speaker 1: got and you, most importantly you for listening.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Damiro. I will talk to you

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Speaker 2: real soon