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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and two time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 4: So pop quiz right off the top here, Paul, And

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Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with your beloved cow Golden Bears,

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Speaker 4: as I've got Zoe to my riot and Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: making all kinds of news on social media, but has

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Speaker 4: nothing to do with cal football.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, by the way, no math, All right,

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Speaker 5: pop quiz, no math? Adhere to the rules.

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Speaker 4: What happens one month from today? Paul, let's see guys.

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Speaker 5: They pull up their high powered sports cars and they

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Speaker 5: take out their pillows they brought from home and maybe

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Speaker 5: whatever nick knacks the misses may have given them to

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Speaker 5: decorate their room, and it's cards camp time, right, they

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Speaker 5: report for camp.

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Speaker 4: Report to State Farm Stadium one month from today. Was

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Speaker 4: that a big deal? I mean, we're two weeks into

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Speaker 4: the offseason. They just broke and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: we're getting talk about training camp. And as a former player,

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Speaker 4: so I'm guessing that's no. I need my break. Let's

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Speaker 4: talk training camp. As we get closer to training camp.

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Speaker 6: I'm good now.

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Speaker 7: I'm far removed from it. It was about to be

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Speaker 7: my six year out, so the trauma that I guess

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Speaker 7: training camp applied to my body, I'm like, I'm way

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Speaker 7: over that. It's no longer an issue for me. We

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Speaker 7: can talk about it as much as you want. I

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Speaker 7: don't really care because I'm not out there running around.

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Speaker 7: But by the way, they still stay in the hotel

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Speaker 7: right there, right, So this one Carlinos camp was actually

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Speaker 7: pretty plush. We had a nice hotel bedroom that our

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Speaker 7: beds changed every day, the beds and the pillows. I

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Speaker 7: didn't need to bring a pillow or top mattress here.

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Speaker 7: I didn't need to decorate the room here. And like

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Speaker 7: when I was in Buffalo and we had actually in

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Speaker 7: different those beds and those mattresses. It's a little bit harder.

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Speaker 7: But here it's actually a really nice camp to be

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Speaker 7: a part of, and everything is kind of right there local.

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Speaker 5: I remember Klayus Campbell up at NAU right the old

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Speaker 5: cinder block doors in the fifties and those beds, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, how do you even sleep in those beds

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Speaker 5: at six foot eight?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: And you'd have to put two beds together, not side

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Speaker 5: by side, but end to end just to make that work. So,

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Speaker 5: by the way, speaking to your old college teammate Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers and the off season, have you ever done one

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Speaker 5: of those darkness retreats? I think that's what everyone wants

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Speaker 5: to know. Have you ever joined him for a darkness

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Speaker 5: I do a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of different type of therapy, but that's a little

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Speaker 7: bit outside of my re realm. There couldn't imagine being

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Speaker 7: in I've tried to do a float tank. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if you've ever done that. Salt water float tank, No,

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Speaker 6: That one of those things.

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Speaker 7: I'm not claustrophobic, but like the anxiety of not being

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Speaker 5: I had a buddy dragged me into night surfing once

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Speaker 5: into the saltwater. That's about as close as all ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't do big water.

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Speaker 4: Didn't need that.

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Speaker 5: I don't do water first and last time I ever

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Speaker 4: Swimming pool's fine. Big water. Yeah, no, we'll stay away

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Speaker 4: from that. Speaking of night, there are no night practices

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Speaker 4: at training camp, unlike previous years at NAU. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals report to State Farm Stadium on July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 4: First practice is July twenty fifth. That is an open practice,

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Speaker 4: and in fact, there are nine open practices at State

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Speaker 4: Farm Stadium burg Gang. So parking admission free digital tickets

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Speaker 4: Camp tics. That's Azycardinals dot com Forward slash Camp ticks.

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Speaker 4: The entire schedule is down down there as well, and

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Speaker 4: I believe, by the way, the first practice is the

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Speaker 5: When is the first practice in full pads? That should

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Speaker 5: be a national holiday, That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 5: That should be like a national or state holiday. The

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Speaker 5: government needs to declare that.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it what there's a five day, six day, seven

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Speaker 6: I don't even is it that long night?

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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean through that committee.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been through a couple of time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't create those rules. Actually we

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Speaker 7: did the I did the last CBA. But I think

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Speaker 7: it's five or six days per the season.

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Speaker 6: Sounds that sounds about right, yep, a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of So we'll see do the math somebody else do

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Speaker 5: the math and then figure it out based on the first.

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Speaker 4: Practice from twenty four to twenty five, just count five

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Speaker 4: Farm Stadium, man, of course, just come and watch Kyler

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Speaker 4: Murray because going into year seven, so this is this

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Speaker 4: is a big season for Kyler Murray. Everyone knows it. Heck,

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Speaker 4: he knows it. He has mentioned that he feels as

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Speaker 4: good as he has in his career going into this

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Speaker 4: right with basically the same personnel going into it, not

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Speaker 4: much has changed. In fact, I'd argue the only big

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Speaker 4: see on the field. But this season for Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 4: how do you define a successful season for K one?

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Speaker 6: Consistency?

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Speaker 7: I mean, from week one through Week seventeen, there's gonna

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Speaker 7: has that ability. He's shown it. Right, We've seen him

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Speaker 7: be an MVP caliber quarterback. We've seen him be you know,

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Speaker 7: the shift. Right after he had the ACL injury, hung

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Speaker 7: Right he came back. I think that that year played

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Speaker 7: in this new mindset. I believe that's really gonna That

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Speaker 7: week out in the comfort that you talk about being

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Speaker 5: You know, we have a checklist right for Kyler and

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Speaker 5: we could talk about every one of these for probably

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Speaker 5: an hour. But you know, regain the deep pass efficiency

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Speaker 5: You know, get that chemistry with the other receivers you

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Speaker 5: big box to check this year. You know, as we

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Speaker 5: like to say, come for the arms, stay for the legs. Okay,

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Speaker 5: more of the off schedule stuff, keep a defense honest,

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Speaker 5: with a little more regularity with his legs because he's

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Speaker 5: so dynamic. You know, he's top three or four in

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Speaker 5: under pressure. There were some metrics in the second half

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Speaker 5: when you're under pressure. But ultimately, honestly, hit zoom out.

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Speaker 5: He's just got to play his best in the biggest games,

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Speaker 5: and those are usually later in the season. If he

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Speaker 4: Cardinals two and five down the stretch last season. Again,

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Speaker 4: can you reverse that and all of a sudden, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're talking about a postseason team here in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: But you brought up off schedule plays, something Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: talked about this offseason on the Cardinals' Corner podcast on

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Speaker 8: I think where we could be better as a unit

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Speaker 8: in myself as extending plays and scrambled drill because I mean,

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Speaker 8: you go, look, you look at Josh, you look at Lamar.

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Speaker 6: Like a lot of things that they do.

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Speaker 8: The sexy plays come from outside of the pocket and

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Speaker 8: a big areaphysis is make it things happen whatever plays

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Speaker 4: And that's something consistently we've heard this offseason as far

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Speaker 4: but there are certain rules when plays break down, and

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Speaker 7: Right, you got a guy that's breaking shadow, medium and

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Speaker 7: I would say, and this was Josh's I think his

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Speaker 7: they felt like it had to be a that was

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Speaker 7: time to be Superman. In the backyard the kid I'm

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Speaker 7: about to throw this deep, wonderful pass. Sometimes the Hall

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Speaker 7: of Fame play is just throw the ball away.

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Speaker 6: As simple as that. Just throw the ball away. We'll

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Speaker 7: Maybe we gotta punt the ball, but we we don't

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Speaker 7: create this situation where I forgot what team, but later

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Speaker 7: year I try to throw across my bottom getting slung around.

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Speaker 7: Then it's a pick, right, the defense returns it back

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Speaker 7: to a field goal. We can't have those types. And

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Speaker 7: that just comes from this, Okay, nothing is there. Throw

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Speaker 4: Me to be.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a story NFL dot com right now,

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Speaker 5: I'd not seen this stat. They're talking about Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: Here's why, because this stat they throw out there, valid question.

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Speaker 7: And that's always that's just as impactful as him running.

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Speaker 4: To that point, seventy eight rushing attempts, but they broke

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's key, and that and that just opens

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 5: You know, I may not going with a lot of

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Speaker 7: If you can hit him in the mouth early and

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Speaker 4: One more person's opinion on Kyler Murray here in year

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Speaker 4: And that goes back to what you were saying, Paul

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Speaker 5: And you know what else I think of when I

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Speaker 4: Red Sea Report. Craig Raioloup, Paul Calvic, and Lorenzo Alexander

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Speaker 2: Sellers at trouble hid and sacked back at a forty

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm not the most talkative person, but every

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not one of those people that you

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Speaker 4: Actions over words for Walter Nolan, the third sixteenth overall

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Speaker 4: as we talk defensive line, because once upon a time,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where I started. I mean I came in

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Speaker 6: I think the only and I and I really love

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Speaker 7: As he learns, and no better person than the Kalas

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Speaker 5: On this front seven, how much do you have to

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Speaker 4: And right now it's just a tea of what's to come.

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Speaker 10: You see some trades show up. You know when we

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Speaker 3: Literal quickness.

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Speaker 4: to take a step back and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: that's as a as a first year player. Can you

439
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Speaker 4: get away with that? Chliss, Yes, can get away with that.

440
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Speaker 4: But for Walter Nolan, a third mite it, he might

441
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Speaker 4: be in for a little bit a sticker shocked a

442
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Speaker 4: little bit that first couple of games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think having that latteral quickness is sometimes

444
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Speaker 7: a safety net. So if you do get behind blocks,

445
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Speaker 7: if you are found out of your gap. You can

446
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Speaker 7: still make plays because he has the ability to put

447
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Speaker 7: that foot in the ground, flatten out, not allow the

448
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Speaker 7: secondary blocker who's trying to capture him as well to

449
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Speaker 7: get across his face. And so he's made switch gaps,

450
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Speaker 7: but he's still able to get down the line and

451
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Speaker 7: make a play. And also when this line decides to

452
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Speaker 7: run stunts right that you're not always stunning into the

453
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Speaker 7: run play. Sometimes it's being ran at you. To be

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Speaker 7: also to be able to put that foot in the

455
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Speaker 7: ground and be another block or another hat to the

456
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Speaker 7: ball has definitely beneficial. And as a linebacker, you want

457
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Speaker 7: guys to be able to do that because if you

458
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Speaker 7: get out of your gap, you're actually putting me out

459
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Speaker 7: a disadvantage. But if you can make up for it,

460
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Speaker 7: you know, I don't want you to always do it,

461
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Speaker 7: but if you can make up for it, do what

462
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Speaker 7: you got to do, young fella, and make plays.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of my mindset, Craig.

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Speaker 5: There was no bigger takeaways standing out at mini camp

465
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Speaker 5: for yours truly. Thanks for asking then looking at the

466
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Speaker 5: D line and just saying, wait a minute, that's Kaleis

467
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Speaker 5: Campbell standing next to Dalvin Tomlinson standing next to Daris

468
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Speaker 5: Robinson standing next to Josh Sweat, standing next to Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 5: And then when Nick Ross goes on with Wolf and

470
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Speaker 5: Luke on Arizona Sports, and I have the quote right here,

471
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Speaker 5: and he's talking about, you know what, when you have

472
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Speaker 5: the sort of guys who can win one on ones

473
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, which the Cardinals didn't have a

474
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Speaker 5: whole lot of the last two years, both in terms

475
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Speaker 5: of talent and in terms of the devastating injuries both

476
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Speaker 5: ears on the defensive line. So if you have those

477
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Speaker 5: guys who go one on ones, Nick rahl is saying,

478
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Speaker 5: you know what, all of a sudden, I don't have

479
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Speaker 5: to plan the run game with numbers, and so now

480
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Speaker 5: I just think of all the other possibilities that opens

481
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Speaker 5: up as a defensive coordinator, and how the scheme potentially

482
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Speaker 5: could look a lot different than it has the last

483
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Speaker 5: couple of years, just because you don't have to commit

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Speaker 5: the numbers to the box like you did in the past.

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Speaker 4: I'll go back to what Drew Stanton said here recently

486
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Speaker 4: on the Cardinals Reds. We talk about rushing the quarterback,

487
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Speaker 4: which is four to drop seven, But can you stop

488
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Speaker 4: the run with just four and all of a sudden

489
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Speaker 4: you become a much more dangerous defense because it's the

490
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Speaker 4: numbers game. But you don't have to bring in that

491
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Speaker 4: fifth or sixth guy not to get after the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: but just stop the ball carrier.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I will say this, I mean, I think

494
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Speaker 7: this is a third year, right. Each year the defensive

495
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Speaker 7: line has gotten substantially bigger that first year you're looking

496
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Speaker 7: at They're like, I don't know about the crew man.

497
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Speaker 7: They gonna get pushed around. They got pushed around. They

498
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Speaker 7: made it the sarded effort to go out there to

499
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Speaker 7: get bigger. I was out of training camp last year.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, they got some beefing here. They look bigger.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: I haven't been around this group, but hearing you talking,

503
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Speaker 7: knowing class and knowing some of the other guys body types. Okay,

504
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Speaker 7: all right now this is a real group. We're starting

505
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Speaker 7: to look real around here. So stopping the run I

506
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Speaker 7: think has been the Achilles Hill of this defense at times,

507
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Speaker 7: right when teams are just able to run down their throats.

508
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Speaker 7: If you can do that with this bigger group, be

509
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Speaker 7: more disruptive in the backfield, stop the run with a

510
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Speaker 7: six man box, maybe Buddha Baker's not in the box

511
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Speaker 7: as much. That keep allows him to stay back, maybe

512
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Speaker 7: get more hands on balls when teams do pass it right,

513
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Speaker 7: And that's what you start thinking about. So if you

514
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Speaker 7: can stop it with six, it gives me an extra

515
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Speaker 7: defend on the back end. We can stop some of

516
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Speaker 7: these exposure plays and also allow a guy like a Buddha,

517
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Speaker 7: who's great wherever you're putting, maybe not to be in

518
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Speaker 7: the box as much, be in the back end and

519
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Speaker 7: be in a better position to get more picks, pick sixes.

520
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Speaker 7: You know, turn the ball off, because at the end

521
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Speaker 7: of the day, that's the defensive job.

522
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Speaker 6: Get the ball back.

523
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Speaker 7: And it's much easier if you can do that with

524
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Speaker 7: seven covering and allow those four to be dominant. When

525
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Speaker 7: you think about like the Tampa Bays of old, when

526
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Speaker 7: I had the Tampa two and Warre sapping those guys,

527
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Speaker 7: or when you think about the Baltimore Ravens being able

528
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Speaker 7: to rush the Seattle Seahawks, all these great defenses, the

529
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Speaker 7: forty nine ers of it a few years ago, these guys

530
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Speaker 7: could just rush four guys to sit back and guys

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Speaker 7: are just flying to the.

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Speaker 5: Ball and Craig your point about run defense. Think about

533
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Speaker 5: some of the games last year, Week three, Lions come

534
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Speaker 5: to town. First play of the game from them from

535
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Speaker 5: scrimmage six, offensive linemen, We're gonna run it down your

536
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Speaker 5: throat until you stop it. Now it is a one

537
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Speaker 5: score game. Think of the second game against Seahawks. He

538
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Speaker 5: lost and Zach Charboney had over seven yards of carry

539
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Speaker 5: in that game, so there's no doubt it was by design.

540
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Speaker 5: You gotta bolster the defensive line. You gotta be able

541
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Speaker 5: to hang in terms of the size. And does Zoe's point,

542
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Speaker 5: JG and Moni they believe in a couple of things.

543
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Speaker 5: One of them is it's a big man's game, and

544
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Speaker 5: that's what they've done over the last three years.

545
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Speaker 4: Year one, this Cardinals defense dead last against the run.

546
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Speaker 4: Year two, ranked twentieth. Year three, what kind of a

547
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Speaker 4: jump does this defense show when you have these new

548
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Speaker 4: additions and a Walter Nolan as your first round pick

549
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Speaker 4: coming into this season. Coming up next, we stay on

550
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Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball. What do the Cardinals

551
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Speaker 4: do it inside linebacker? That's next here on the Arizona

552
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Speaker 4: Cardinals Radio Network.

553
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Speaker 2: Third and six, What if Jackson he always pass again deflected?

554
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Speaker 2: It is picked off the forty seven yard line, a

555
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Speaker 2: Keen Davis Cather.

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Speaker 11: Second and sixth hunt least throwing traffic is intercepted. Davis

557
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Speaker 11: Gas hasn't a cross midfield into the raven side the

558
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Speaker 11: forty five yard law.

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Speaker 4: Five seasons in the league, all with Cincinnati. Last season,

560
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Speaker 4: ADG started the last six games. And I know, Paul,

561
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Speaker 4: you've made this comparison already, but it does remind you

562
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Speaker 4: of last offseason and Mac Wilson Senior being brought in

563
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Speaker 4: after he started a handful of games at the end

564
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Speaker 4: of that previous season with the new England Patriots, and

565
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Speaker 4: we saw how that turned out. Did the Cardinals strike

566
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Speaker 4: There's a lightning strike twice here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if they get return on investment from a

568
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Speaker 5: King Davis Gaither like they did out of mac Wilson Senior,

569
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Speaker 5: you understand why they made the signing. And yes, there

570
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Speaker 5: are a lot of parallels. Team Captain, Special Teams Assassin

571
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Speaker 5: three four years in the league, finally gets his opportunity

572
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Speaker 5: to get regular defensive reps and just balls out down

573
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Speaker 5: the stretch. He had a twelve tackle game, he had

574
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Speaker 5: a thirteen tackle game, He had an eleven tackle game.

575
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Speaker 5: You know, some division games against the Steelers and Ravens

576
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Speaker 5: and he bald and so, and he filled in for

577
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Speaker 5: injury and the Cardinals said, you know what, maybe there's

578
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Speaker 5: more under the hood here than he was given an

579
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Speaker 5: opportunity to show, and so they pounced. And who knows.

580
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Speaker 5: At this point, we have no idea he could be

581
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Speaker 5: your starting Mike linebacker week one.

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Speaker 7: That'd be good. I'm looking forward to it. And you

583
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Speaker 7: said the special thing right there, special teams, right, yeah,

584
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Speaker 7: all great things come from special teams. All we need

585
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Speaker 7: is a little chance, folks, Right, we are athletes too,

586
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Speaker 7: We can play the game, right, So just that mindset, leadership, selflessness,

587
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Speaker 7: you got to be all that on special teams, right, physical,

588
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go get the ball, seaball, get ball, and

589
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Speaker 7: all the characteristics that you saw in mac Wilson, our

590
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Speaker 7: Keim Davis has as well. And that's what they're looking for.

591
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Speaker 7: Culture builders, Guys that fit this culture here, that's going

592
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Speaker 7: to and sentuate it, elevate it to the next level.

593
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Speaker 7: When you bring those type of guys in, they're hunger.

594
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Speaker 7: They've had to work to stand in the league. They

595
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Speaker 7: wasn't just given to them. They've had to work, stay

596
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Speaker 7: and really grind and earn this opportunity to be an

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Speaker 7: everyday starter.

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Speaker 4: So that's a big question. I think defensively, who's going

599
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Speaker 4: to be that defensive play caller. You do not have

600
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Speaker 4: Kaizer White anymore on this roster, so there's a vacancy.

601
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Speaker 4: Is that mac is that adg or could it potentially

602
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Speaker 4: be a rookie fifth round draft pick Cody Simon out

603
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Speaker 4: of Ohio State. We had this conversation years ago though,

604
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Speaker 4: with Xavin Collins as a rookie coming in and being

605
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Speaker 4: that guy, and you brought Tremaine Edmunds, your former teammate

606
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Speaker 4: with the Buffalo Bills, who did it as a rookie.

607
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Speaker 4: Now talking about Edmunds and Zaven first round picks versus

608
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Speaker 4: Cody Who's fifth round pick. But it is a difference

609
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Speaker 4: when you go from college play caller to NFL play caller.

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Speaker 7: Well, London Fletcher wasn't drafted at all. He ended up

611
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Speaker 7: doing a really good job at it. So the way

612
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Speaker 7: you get drafted as a starting point, it's not really

613
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Speaker 7: indicative of whether or not you have the mental capacity

614
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Speaker 7: to hear the call, give the call to a defense

615
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Speaker 7: and then go do your job right there's a whole

616
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Speaker 7: bunch of stuff that goes and getting the drafted. So

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Speaker 7: I would never use that as these are first round guy.

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Speaker 7: He's a fifth round guy will he doesn't have the

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Speaker 7: ability to do it now. Typically with rookies, you want

620
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Speaker 7: to minimize as much responsibility that they have because it's

621
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Speaker 7: just so much that you have to take in when

622
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Speaker 7: you learn in a new defense, maybe you're in a

623
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Speaker 7: slightly different position, maybe the coaching you slightly and so

624
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Speaker 7: you want to make sure that you bring them along

625
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Speaker 7: and build confidence versus having someone stand in front of

626
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Speaker 7: a group of vents like Kalais who's been in the

627
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Speaker 7: league twenty years and now you gotta vocalize.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: Some guys are built for that. Most young guys aren't.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know if I would give it to

631
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Speaker 7: him right off, unless he's just really solid. Again, I

632
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Speaker 7: haven't been around him, but it can happen. But you know,

633
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Speaker 7: you have other options. When you think about a Keen

634
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Speaker 7: Davis who's been in the league, who has the probably

635
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Speaker 7: in the ability a little bit more security and confidence

636
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Speaker 7: standing in front of a group, hearing the call, taking

637
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Speaker 7: the information and then delivering it and then being able

638
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Speaker 7: to not only get himself right, but other guys right.

639
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Speaker 7: As far as making calls and checks and getting guys

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Speaker 7: aligned if need be.

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Speaker 4: Might be easier to hear it from a veteran versus

642
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Speaker 4: a first year player, but you hear from Cody Simon

643
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Speaker 4: as far as can you be that leader as a rookie,

644
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Speaker 4: And according to Cody, sure, why not.

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Speaker 12: I put leadership in three different things. It's being seen, heard,

646
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Speaker 12: and felt. Seeing you do the right thing all the time.

647
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Speaker 12: You're the person that they can look to do the

648
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Speaker 12: right thing. You heard, you're the vocal leader, you can motivate, inspire,

649
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Speaker 12: and then felt is the emotion, you know, the passion

650
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Speaker 12: that you can play with that others can look to

651
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Speaker 12: and you know, like I can feel it. It's not tangible,

652
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Speaker 12: but it's something out there. So that stuff is stuck

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Speaker 12: with me all through college and helped me be a

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Speaker 12: better leader.

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Speaker 4: Now. The one advantage that Simon does have over previous

656
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Speaker 4: rookies coming into the league is the in helmet communication,

657
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Speaker 4: which last year in college they used for the first time,

658
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Speaker 4: and he had that at Ohio State. So hearing Nick

659
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Speaker 4: Rolas's voice in the helmet is not going to be different.

660
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Speaker 4: There's not going to be cartoon characters on the sideline, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, much much easier, much easier, and just hearing them

662
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Speaker 7: speak right there, as a rookie, focus on the being

663
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Speaker 7: seen and felt you talking, you got to be very

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Speaker 7: strategic and understanding who you are and where you're at

665
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Speaker 7: as well. Right, And I get what he's saying a

666
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Speaker 7: Gregg wholeheartedly, but as a rookie, a be seen and

667
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Speaker 7: felt and then that's going to allow you to be

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Speaker 7: heard as a as a leader in being vocal as

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Speaker 7: far as leading other guys in this room. So I'm

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Speaker 7: excited to see what he's able to bring and and

671
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Speaker 7: and deliver if.

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Speaker 6: They give them, give him that opportunity.

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Speaker 7: But a call, you know, I think people always think

674
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Speaker 7: like it's it's not an offensive call, that's not the issue.

675
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Speaker 7: Is not like when you hear John Grutin give his

676
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Speaker 7: you know, fifteen minutes. It's not yeah XZ check double

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Speaker 7: over x Y banana right, it's not all that. Typically

678
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Speaker 7: a call in defense, a very basic first and second

679
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Speaker 7: down call could be over four, simple right, just that

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Speaker 7: simple Overfore that's what we're playing over four.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here's my question. How much of the job description,

682
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Speaker 5: how critical is it everything comes after the call, meaning

683
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Speaker 5: you make the call, but Kyle Shanahan comes out and

684
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Speaker 5: calls some ridiculous and now you've got a check or audible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so over four.

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Speaker 7: That what makes it complicated is when you have coaches

687
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Speaker 7: who haven't quite built the trust in you and want

688
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Speaker 7: to give you the laundry list of everything that can

689
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Speaker 7: happen before the mic cuts off. So over four, like

690
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Speaker 7: we London Flesher, just be over four. Now you got

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Speaker 7: a young guy out here, it'd be over four. A

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Speaker 7: if it's two by two, think about outsides on a.

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Speaker 7: But also if it's three by one, make sure that

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Speaker 7: you tell the outside back or that alert bullets hey.

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Speaker 7: And then if they come out empty, don't forget that

696
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Speaker 7: the empty check. And then and then they're the offense

697
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Speaker 7: is coming out and the coach is still talking to you,

698
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Speaker 7: and you're like, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 5: And now Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 7: Then that's when it becomes an overload because coaches don't

701
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Speaker 7: know sometimes and I'm guilty of this too.

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Speaker 6: To shut up, just be quiet, give.

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Speaker 7: Me the call, coach me when I come to the

704
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Speaker 7: sideline in between, but don't be in my ears.

705
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Speaker 6: The mic, because it's just too much. Let me learn.

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Speaker 7: And that's why if they're going to do it obviously

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Speaker 7: preseason and I know sometimes with preseason away, but JG.

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Speaker 7: I feel like plays guys in the preseason, they he

709
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Speaker 7: needs to hear it, play it, and let him be

710
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Speaker 7: and be the same way there as you will in

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Speaker 7: the season and come up with some type of system

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Speaker 7: to help him grow and learn if that's what his

713
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Speaker 7: role becomes. But you cannot be in the dude's here

714
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Speaker 7: talking and then tell them, hey, play fast. What I'm

715
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Speaker 7: trying to listen to you dude, get out of my

716
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Speaker 7: ear and then maybe I can play fast.

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Speaker 4: Well to that point, John Gannon on when he was

718
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Speaker 4: asked about keeping those defensive play calls concise.

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Speaker 10: We got to make sure we don't get too wordy

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Speaker 10: to keep it tight for those guys. I'm always kind

721
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Speaker 10: of aware of that how long is the play call?

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Speaker 9: You know?

723
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Speaker 10: And they can get wordy at times and it needs

724
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Speaker 10: to be at times. But so we try to keep

725
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Speaker 10: it tight for those guys. But once they do it

726
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Speaker 10: in practice, they typically get pretty quick at functioning.

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Speaker 4: And that goes back to the trust in year three

728
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Speaker 4: versus year one, maybe you do need to have Nick

729
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Speaker 4: Rolins in your ear a little bit more because he's

730
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Speaker 4: not quite sure and is everyone else on the same page.

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Speaker 4: But year three, Hey, well sloopol is better.

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Speaker 6: So this is yeah.

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Speaker 7: So for coaching, this is for coaching all the way

734
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Speaker 7: around the world. Hey, do all your talking Monday through

735
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Speaker 7: Saturday or whatever. Your game time is Sunday through Friday,

736
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Speaker 7: if you got Saturday games in college, but let your

737
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Speaker 7: players play on game day. You come and make correction

738
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Speaker 7: of the course in between series. But you can't be

739
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Speaker 7: coaching a dude, especially at the highest level, about all

740
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Speaker 7: the checks. If he don't know it, he don't need

741
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Speaker 7: to be in there. He hasn't earned the right to

742
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Speaker 7: be in there. If he doesn't know the checks that

743
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Speaker 7: we've come up with that we felt good about the week.

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Speaker 6: You don't need to remind me. We've already known that.

745
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Speaker 7: Remind me in between series and allow me to go

746
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 7: out there and play fast and I think, and that's

747
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 7: called trust, and so you have to develop that. And

748
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Speaker 7: if you don't have trust in a player, don't put

749
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Speaker 7: him out there. And we had a coach, Danny Smith

750
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Speaker 7: used to always say this, I don't play the best players.

751
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 7: I play the players I trust because it allows me

752
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Speaker 7: to relax and I know that my family's job is security.

753
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Speaker 7: Is good with me because I trust you to do

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Speaker 7: your job. And it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 5: Look, Wolfe and I argued about this last week in

756
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Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage. What's the biggest question you need

757
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: an answer to coming out of camp? And you know,

758
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: we could talk about CB one, CB two, wide receiver two,

759
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Speaker 5: starting offensive guard. To me, it's Mike Linebacker. It's the

760
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Speaker 5: quarterback of the defense. And I think it's yet another

761
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Speaker 5: reason why Johnathan Gannon wants more friction quote unquote in camp,

762
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Speaker 5: they're gonna go more eleven on eleven. They're gonna try

763
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Speaker 5: and figure out can Coody Simon, Kenny Hamam, can he

764
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Speaker 5: be the guy they count on? Or who is the

765
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Speaker 5: guy at Mike Linebacker?

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Speaker 4: Training camp begins in one month the regular season right

767
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Speaker 4: around the corner. Be part of the Red Sea. Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Red Sea Report Here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Murray under center takes the snap and it's a jet

773
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Speaker 2: sweet near side McBride stiff arming getting close to the

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Speaker 2: goal line. Touchdown Frey mccride on the handoff.

775
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Speaker 6: Mccride is so good running the.

776
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Speaker 2: Football, looking deep left, throwing McBride laying out and making

777
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Speaker 2: a great catch at the thirty eight, sliding to the

778
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Speaker 2: ground there I McBride wrapped up, broke and tackle though,

779
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Speaker 2: and then he hurdles a defender at the forty that

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Speaker 2: was drunk. Asked, you can't control Trey McBride, looking deep left,

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Speaker 2: throwing in between four jets. The fall is caught by

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride.

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Speaker 6: Trey McBride, you are a bad, bad man. Are you

784
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Speaker 6: kidding me?

785
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride led the team in receptions, receiving yards, not

786
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Speaker 4: quite touchdowns, only had two receiving touchdowns. That's the number

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Speaker 4: I would expect to jump here in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: As we say welcome back, it is the Cardinals Red

789
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Speaker 4: Sea Report, Gregoria, Lupaul Calvic and Lorenzo Alexander here on

790
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Speaker 4: this Tuesday. And it's not so much what Trey McBride

791
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Speaker 4: does offensively, but how difficult he is as a cover defensively,

792
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Speaker 4: because even the best of the best, the Fred Warner,

793
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Speaker 4: can't cover a Trey McBride. And that's I think the

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Speaker 4: next step for Trey is to continue to be that guy,

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Speaker 4: whether it's again working on is blocking in the run game,

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Speaker 4: but continue to be a weapon even if he is

797
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Speaker 4: that number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. And I'm gonna go a step further

799
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Speaker 7: than you did. I'm gonna say I guarantee he's gonna

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Speaker 7: be more than two touchdowns this year. And a guy

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Speaker 7: like that, the way he plays, how dynamic he is,

802
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 7: you know he should be approaching around double digits. I mean,

803
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 7: he's just that good of a guy athletic wise, understanding

804
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 7: how schemes where he can sit down and coverages. Is

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00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 7: a man and man is a guy inside outside? Is

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Speaker 7: it cover too high?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 7: Does he have outside helped by the safety? Does he

809
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: have single high? He's just our student of the game.

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Speaker 7: You hear him about going to these you know, the

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Speaker 7: tight end university camps, and you're around all this great

812
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Speaker 7: wealth of knowledge of all the great guys that's in

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Speaker 7: the game, that has played the game, that have and

814
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Speaker 7: they come back in this learning and so he's always

815
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Speaker 7: a sponge. Obviously, he's physical, he's built right, he has

816
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Speaker 7: the right mentality, and he's only gotten better throughout his career.

817
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Speaker 7: And I think as Kyler continues to ascend in his

818
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 7: understanding of this game and defense and knowing what he

819
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Speaker 7: needs to do is only going to make Tray that

820
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Speaker 7: much better. So I'm looking forward to him having even

821
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Speaker 7: a more productive a year now. It may not be

822
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Speaker 7: showing the stats, because we hope that we have other

823
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 7: receivers that rise as well. So you can't just hone

824
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 7: in on one person, but you're going to definitely see

825
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Speaker 7: him making big time plays based on who he is

826
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Speaker 7: and what he's done throughout his career.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty early in the season where he's startingting

829
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Speaker 5: a lot more defensive attention. I mean, defensive coordinators figured

830
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Speaker 5: out real quick he's the number one option. He's really dynamic,

831
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Speaker 5: and yet he was still really productive. He figured it out,

832
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Speaker 5: he was able to, you know, do he was able

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Speaker 5: to foil whatever they're throwing at him. You mentioned tight end.

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Speaker 5: You it's been going on this week, and so I

835
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Speaker 5: just went on to social media there and I just

836
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Speaker 5: went and searched tight end you, and all I'm getting

837
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Speaker 5: is Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift showed up with Travis kelcey

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Speaker 5: and it's dominating the algorithm.

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Speaker 6: Of course, So I have a beef.

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Speaker 4: Here right now.

841
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get some coverage of Trey McBride and

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Speaker 5: I'm just getting Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 6: I was playing, you know, get a little ratings higher

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Speaker 6: for tight end you.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I think that you know, it's really

846
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Speaker 7: hard to double a guy that's inside, right, you know,

847
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Speaker 7: do you bring a safety down to have a linebacker

848
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Speaker 7: and you just show right now, undress your defense of

849
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Speaker 7: what you're doing versus you can hide a little bit

850
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Speaker 7: better when you're trying to double a number one with

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Speaker 7: a safety in a corner because a lot of things

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Speaker 7: happen so quick.

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Speaker 13: Right.

854
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Speaker 6: He's big, So.

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Speaker 7: You can't put like a small athletic safety because he

856
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 7: can body them up. You can't put a Fred Warner

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Speaker 7: type who's bigger, who canna handle the physicality because he's

858
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 7: athletic in space and can separate and uses his body

859
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 7: really well. So those guys, you know, the Gronks, the Kelsey's,

860
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Speaker 7: you know those type of guys that the Tony G's

861
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Speaker 7: of you know, old school. It's just really hard because

862
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 7: they match up well versus whoever you put on them,

863
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Speaker 7: because they have characteristics about whether it's their body type

864
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Speaker 7: or athleticism, that gives them the best matchup no matter

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Speaker 7: who you put on them. And as long as you

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Speaker 7: have a quarterback right, all those throws are in the middle,

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Speaker 7: so they see him immediately, Oh he's open.

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Speaker 8: Boom.

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Speaker 7: I can put it right on him, and you don't

870
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 7: really have to worry about the timing as much because

871
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 7: it's happening right in front of you.

872
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 6: The ball is going to be delivered a lot quicker.

873
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: We've seen Trey in a three point stance. We've seen

874
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: him line up in the slot, out wide, go in motion,

875
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: be in the backfield. I mean that versatility. As far

876
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: as okay, defensively, what do you do, who do you

877
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: put on him?

878
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 9: Say?

879
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: All right, pay attention wherever eighty five goes, he's your guy. Well,

880
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't know where he is, And all of a sudden,

881
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: that's when Trey has those big time plays.

882
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

883
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 7: And that's what good old coordinators are able to do,

884
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 7: is just move guys around.

885
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: You dress it up. It's the same plays, but you're

886
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 6: dressing it up differently.

887
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 7: And again that's something else that puts stresses on the

888
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 7: defense because as a MIC, I'm typically looking for the

889
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 7: tight end so I can set the strength and if

890
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 7: he's lined up outside, is.

891
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: This eleven personnel?

892
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: What it is?

893
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 6: He's in the backfield? What is this right?

894
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 7: And so it's just an extra thing I have to

895
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 7: think about who has he because you know, sometimes if

896
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 7: he's at number two the nickel, you'll guard him. If

897
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: he's a in line tight end, all right, will backers

898
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 7: back of you have him? If he's in the backfield, Okay,

899
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 7: now we got a bracketing mike and wheel And so

900
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 7: it does calls a little bit of delay and confusion.

901
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 7: And then as a coordinator, based on where you align him,

902
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 7: you can create the most advantageous a matchup that you want.

903
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 7: And then I'm going to him every time because I

904
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 7: know he's gonna win that route.

905
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: I mean, if it's a game of matchups, think of

906
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 5: the one tight end right now in the NFL who's

907
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 5: paid higher than Trey McBride, George Kittle. And think of

908
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: what a headache George Kittle has been two times a

909
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 5: year for the past what seven years, when the Cardinals

910
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 5: have played the forty nine ers, You've tried everyone from

911
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: Isaiah Simmons to Xavi and Collins. Usually these days it's

912
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 5: Buddha Baker, but Kittle has the size advantage, right, and

913
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: those guys battle. But you have to put someone like

914
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: Bood on him just because of the athleticism in the

915
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: route running and the fact that he can be anywhere

916
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: in those you know, Kyle Shanahan formations. So think of

917
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: the headache that Trey McBride now poses coming off a

918
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl season, and I'm guessing most decordinators whereas they

919
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: might have thought about maybe Kyler and the legs, and

920
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: that was the first priority they got to on the

921
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: game plan. Now it's man, wait a minute, what do

922
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: we do against eighty five?

923
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 6: Right?

924
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: Who do we match up against Trey McBride.

925
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: If they don't all have a Buddha Baker? Yeah? Right?

926
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 6: So how do you make them matchups?

927
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: That versatility, what Trey McBride can do for an offense

928
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: and how difficult he can make things for a defense.

929
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: Justin Pugh spoke on that recently on The Big Red Rage.

930
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 13: John I love Tray McBride does it all. He does

931
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 13: the dirty works. He runs across the middle, he blocked.

932
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 13: You can leave Trey McBride out there an eleven personnel,

933
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 13: which is three receivers in one tight end. You still

934
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 13: run once back power and he'll then release and run

935
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 13: by the starting safety. He is such a mismatch and

936
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 13: you're just happy he's on your team and not on

937
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 13: someone else.

938
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: Okay, so if the production more touchdowns, yes, but maybe

939
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: the receptions of the receiving yards there's a little bit

940
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: more of a balance. But that's because Trey McBride has

941
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: elevated his game to where if defensive coordinators are focusing

942
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: on where's eighty five, Well, Marvin's on one side, Michael

943
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: Wilson's on the other, James Connor, Kyler Murray right now,

944
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, because you're focusing on one guy,

945
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: you would hope now someone else steps forward.

946
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's really no excuse why this offense shouldn't be dynamic,

947
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 7: you know, staying healthy, right, Obviously, you gotta have guys

948
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 7: up front that's gonna block and do well there. You

949
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 7: know you're gonna have some new pieces in the front,

950
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 7: and as long as the offensive line is does their

951
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 7: job at a high level. This offense is so dynamic

952
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 7: it's it's hard for me to see it not being

953
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 7: productive based on all the names you just named, right,

954
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 7: and how they approach it. And so that's why I'm

955
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 7: saying just the way I've seen Kyler move shifting because

956
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 7: I haven't always been a huge fan of how he's operated,

957
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 7: but the way he has been, the way his growth,

958
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 7: really am excited about what he's gonna be able to

959
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 7: do with all of those weapons and the masturation of

960
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 7: Marvin right, even him growing how well he looks a

961
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 7: big understand that maybe I can't create the separation, but

962
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 7: I'm now I'm gonna compete physically and go up and

963
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 7: get these balls and box guys out. I've always liked

964
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 7: Michael Wilson. Just given him more opportunities, Dors more opportunities,

965
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 7: and then you mix it and and and Colin speaks

966
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 7: for himself as far as him being the heart and

967
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 7: beat of this offense. Get him rolling, and then it's

968
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 7: just they can do anything, play action, rolling out, drop back.

969
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: We can do it all.

970
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 7: They just have to stay consistent and work their way

971
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 7: through all the minutia that's going to happen.

972
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: Throughout the NFL.

973
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: Season in addition to all the you know guys being

974
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: able to eat because guess what he's gonna get, you know,

975
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 5: his share of the defensive attention and hopefully that trickles down.

976
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: The other thing I like about Trey McBride is he

977
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 5: really didn't blossom and explode until year three. So whether

978
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 5: it's Marvin Harrison Junior or Michael Wilson right a, Darius Robinson,

979
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 5: these are guys who have all the talent in the world.

980
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 5: But you know, Trey McBride had a really lackluster rookie season.

981
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 4: There were a lot of question marks.

982
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 5: Wow, is does he have the mentality?

983
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Is he geared up?

984
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 5: What is it? And then I mean it is night

985
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 5: and day from what he looked like as a rookie

986
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: to what he looked like in year three going to

987
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl and now he's one of the best

988
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 5: in the game. And you can only hope, you can

989
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 5: only hope that is a similar path that some of

990
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 5: these other young guys follow.

991
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: You mentioned tight End University. There are two other cardinal

992
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: tight ends at that tight end university, Elijah Higgins except Ryman.

993
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: So now all of a sudden, Trey's bringing along some

994
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: of his own guys. And if you're Elijah Higgins, who's

995
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: apologized for staying the school, but out of Stanford, he

996
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: never played JA he never played tight end until he

997
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: got to the NFL.

998
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 7: Correct and he actually did really well. Guy in there

999
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 7: put his face in the fan when he needed to

1000
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 7: make some big plays. And so that's another guy that

1001
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 7: can take another step and be another dynamics. So now

1002
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: you can go twelve personnel, you can go eleven and

1003
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 7: maybe you put Trey out and he's the in line

1004
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 7: tight end, right and so there's a lot of different

1005
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 7: things that this team will be able to do based

1006
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: on the personnel of this roster.

1007
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the class picture right now. I mean

1008
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: they have the class picture. It's still they go out

1009
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 5: of a high school yearbook. There's well over one hundred

1010
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: tight ends in attendance this year at tight end. You

1011
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: this thing is growing exponentially.

1012
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's a credit to not only those players,

1013
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: but yeah, that's that's impressive about in the fact that

1014
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: the tight end has become more involved in the passing game.

1015
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: Hey special thanks good to have Zoe back in the mix.

1016
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: We'll do it again. Actually in two weeks time. Enjoy

1017
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1021
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