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Speaker 1: Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into another initiative Exits all Access. Our last

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Speaker 2: show from Houston. Actually I take that back Monday, Monday,

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Speaker 2: we will do a show from Houston before we fly

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Speaker 2: to Indianapolis for the scouting.

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Speaker 1: Combine twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the show this evening, John Harris alongside Mark

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Speaker 2: vandermir Glad you are with us.

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Speaker 1: Mark. This is combine number. What for you?

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Speaker 3: Combine number? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I heard you talking about it yesterday and I was thinking,

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Speaker 4: I think this is combine twelve or thirteen for me?

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Speaker 3: Okay, thing like that. Okay, because twenty COVID or twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one, we didn't have.

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Speaker 2: Twenty We had the combine and no pro days. Twenty

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Speaker 2: one we had no combine, but we had pro days.

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Speaker 2: So last year would have this is twelve. Last year

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Speaker 2: would have been eleven. This is twelve, Okay, so this

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Speaker 2: is I think this is ten hot. It's adding up, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: I know it is. We've seen it when it was

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Speaker 2: at the West Club where you stuffed like three hundreds

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Speaker 2: into the room.

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Speaker 1: That's about the size of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this club level, it's not like our club level either.

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Speaker 2: It's skinnier, very small and skinny, and everybody was on

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Speaker 2: top of one other.

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Speaker 1: One thing that stood out. And we'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit more combine next week.

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Speaker 2: But you sent me a graphic today or a layout today.

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Speaker 1: So my first combine was twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So when we went there, there were maybe on the

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Speaker 2: outside of the West Club, there were maybe eight tables,

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Speaker 2: I think eight, maybe eight people covering it. So bills

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Speaker 2: were there, Bill Steelers, bears, us.

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Speaker 3: I want to say that's it.

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Speaker 2: Course teams maybe, I think, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Eve think the cults were.

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Speaker 4: They did not have a table outside. Now inside they

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Speaker 4: had writers at tables, but those were writers, right, I

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Speaker 4: think they had writers. And the Texans never had a

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Speaker 4: table until I got here. Only sent the writers like

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Speaker 4: Scurf and Drew with go right, and they would shoot

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Speaker 4: some video, but they would wait and use it later.

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So we said eight, it's not twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: There are sixty four tables, sixty four entities covering.

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Speaker 1: Sixty four entity set on the row.

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Speaker 2: That's just on the row. That yeah, that's on radio row.

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Speaker 2: Serious XM has a whole huge setup.

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Speaker 4: Florio's got his own set up ABS Sports NFL Network,

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Speaker 4: the law goes on.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it ranges from the Charlotte vibe.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Fox thirty two in Chicago, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: looked at who's talking and who's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Poles is not talking at the Combine, I

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Speaker 1: mean why not? Like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: What do you Because we're so six you can't belichick

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Speaker 4: this thing, right, come on, you have to defend yourself.

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Speaker 3: Get off down to take that heat.

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Speaker 2: Colt, Saints, Chargers, Titans, Ravens, Dolphins, Commanders, Purple Insider, which

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Speaker 2: is that Vikings or gotta be Ravens, Ravens don't call

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Speaker 2: they don't do the purple thing.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: The Ringer Cleveland dot Com, Sports Forkal Show, iHeart Denver,

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Speaker 2: Kowa Cheesehead TV from Office Sports, Philly Sports.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. My buddy fran Deffie should be there.

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Speaker 2: The Athletic PFF, Jaguars, Bill's, Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Sumer Sports.

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Speaker 2: I mean the list of teams and of course Jets, Giants,

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Speaker 2: US Raiders, Browns, Vikings, Falcons, Bengals, Buccaneers, Steelers, Panthers. That's

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Speaker 2: sixty four versus twenty fifteen, ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eight, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Health as much we heard from McClain yesterday. Just a

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Speaker 4: few writers in the hotel lobby waiting to catch up

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Speaker 4: with guys, and no help from the NFL as far

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Speaker 4: as coverage. But it's even changed for us because I

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Speaker 4: always tell the story. You know, I got Derek Carter

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Speaker 4: sit down at the table with us. That doesn't happen

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Speaker 4: anymore for an opposing well, not an opposing team, because

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Speaker 4: he was a draft choice at the time, right we

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Speaker 4: might have picked him, who knows, but a team would

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Speaker 3: And I had Teddy.

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Speaker 4: Bridgewater one on one, but that was more like a

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Speaker 4: time ago, because you know, when those guys are drafted,

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Speaker 4: it was a long time ago, but it feels like

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Speaker 4: ten minutes ago to me.

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Speaker 2: I went to this SEC media days the next year,

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, they would let me talk to any players.

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Speaker 1: They have no players?

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Speaker 3: Wow? None?

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Speaker 1: What so well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the NFL, and you know, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: so it got to be a little different, but I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you it's also and we met.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this a little bit at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: The Senior Bowl the first year I was there was

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, and there were three radio tables.

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Speaker 2: There was a table from Baton Rouge, and then there

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Speaker 2: was Lance our buddy Lancer Line and I can't remember

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Speaker 2: what NIT was with at that time, but I was

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Speaker 2: in between. I was it was before us coming here,

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Speaker 2: so I just sat on a table, but I had

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Speaker 1: I just SI sit there.

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Speaker 2: It's so Derek Carr came over to the table, did

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Speaker 2: we did an interview with Derek Carr. And that was

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Speaker 2: the thing of the Senior Bowl. We could get anybody

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Speaker 2: was kind of the same thing. They moved everybody over

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Speaker 2: the convention Center and there. Now there weren't as many

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll bealles a little bit harder to get

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Speaker 2: to India. I mean, Indie, you get.

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Speaker 3: All the Midwest that's still going on too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: True, so but there were still My buddy John Schmilk

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Speaker 2: was there with the Giants. Austin Radio was there. My

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Speaker 2: buddy Aaron Hogan called me over to walk over and

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Speaker 3: There was a.

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Speaker 2: Lions podcast that was there, Sirius XM, a few others

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Speaker 2: they were going. They had their shows live, so they

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Speaker 2: had probably twelve to fifteen various radio entities or speaking entities.

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Speaker 3: Well that's going to only grow too.

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Speaker 1: And they were getting players.

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Speaker 2: Oh they were Yeah, Aaron had like right before me,

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Speaker 2: they had Ali Gordon on the running back from Ooklhoma State.

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Speaker 2: Well you did a selfie video with Dak Pax Prescott

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Speaker 2: and yeah, back in the day, I have one, and

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Speaker 2: that was it was very few teams are covering it,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, okay, give me your list this year.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, just handed her listen. And

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Speaker 2: that was a year we're looking for quarterback. Obviously we

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Speaker 2: signed Brock. We were looking for a quarterback. So I have

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Speaker 2: interviews all of them that year, Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 2: I remember I interviewed a few of the Penn State

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Speaker 2: players that played for Bill O'Brien at that time.

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Speaker 3: I startling Shepherd, I had them all.

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Speaker 2: She would just she had I remember she took Dak

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Speaker 2: past everybody and she's like, move, move, move by the way,

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Speaker 2: all right, John, here's Dak for you. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was awesome. We did like five or six minutes

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Speaker 2: with Dak Prescott. We're gonna get that a little bit

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Speaker 2: later in the show. Not that interview, but Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: was kind of the inspiration for something that we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about. But today I don't think there's any

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Speaker 2: real surprises with this, so we'll talk about this for

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But the Texans announced they're twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: coaching staff now one thing on defense. Yeah, every coach

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Speaker 2: is back, every coach minus well Nate Alie Naate Ali

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Speaker 2: was an assistant D line coach and it's a big loss.

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Speaker 2: It's a big loss, but he gets ahead well top

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Speaker 2: the league D line coach yet Atlanta in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna need him, so he ends up taking that

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Speaker 2: job replacing him. Frank Okam been around the league text

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine. I like that Frank Okam's

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Speaker 2: and nine is that belief? So that's alway played with

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Speaker 2: the Miko at some point. Yeah, so Frank Ocam is

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Speaker 2: now there might be some different assistants beyond that. But

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Speaker 2: been Bowling is back with the linebackers. He's worked with

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Speaker 2: the linebackers I think the last probably four or five years.

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Speaker 3: But not linebackers coach.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not linebackers coach, but but assistant linebackers. Because

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Speaker 2: Billy Davis is back, we'd love we gotta get Billy

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Speaker 2: back on a show. Oh I want to do three hours? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to capers and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, full show.

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Speaker 2: Now the changes offensively, we obviously know it starts at

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Speaker 2: the same, Ben McDaniels. He's wide receivers coach, offensive pass

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Speaker 2: senior offensive assistant, it's Bill Laser. But added to the

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Speaker 2: past game specialist. So I don't know how that works.

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Speaker 2: I guess they'll they'll figure it out in some way,

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Speaker 2: as a senior offensive assistant. As staying with the Texans

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Speaker 2: is Bill Laser, who's also senior offensive assistant, and Drod

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Speaker 2: Johnson quarterbacks coach. So the coaching staff, it is a

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Speaker 2: lot of names that we know, but obviously one side

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Speaker 2: of changes. I don't want to say everything, but it

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Speaker 2: the ball. Remaining offensive coaches Danny Barrett running backs, that

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Speaker 2: is big, yeah, Jake Morland tight ends. I mentioned Ben McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: They're all staying and of course Draw Johnson. So offensive

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Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick Nick Keylee takes over, and then Jerry Schaplinsky

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Speaker 2: up to the offensive line coach. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: the biggest question mark. Okay, who's going to be the

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. It's now Nick Kaylee. The coaches are official

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five. A lot of continuity. How do

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Speaker 2: you feel about that? Just gut reaction to the continuity

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Speaker 2: level all of the number of coaches that Demiko Rmes

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Speaker 2: is keeping.

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Speaker 1: Well in his thing.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, Nick Cayley could have made changes at the positions

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Speaker 4: you mentioned when you talk about Danny Barrett at running

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Speaker 4: backs and Ben McDaniel's past game four Enator wide receivers

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Speaker 4: and Jake Moreland tight ends, but he felt like these

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Speaker 4: guys are good, Let's keep them. Let's keep these guys

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Speaker 4: in their roles. Barrett has been here for a while,

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Speaker 4: as you know, you know, the Bill O'Brien era, through Cully,

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Speaker 4: through Lovey Demico. Now his second offensive coordinator under Demiko,

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Speaker 4: and Danny Barrett is assistant head coach. So that's nice

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Speaker 2: But you learned so much about how you have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't always have a million dollars to build

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Speaker 2: We believe that we have a franchise quarterback in Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I'll pound the table for that one. This is going

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he really believes that right, but it's

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Speaker 4: How much does he really believe it? It's a good

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Speaker 2: How does this not work? If Lawrence is any good?

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Speaker 2: How does this not work?

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Speaker 3: We look at them and we say they should.

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Speaker 4: Is Jacksonville built on some native burial ground? Where they're

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Speaker 2: They went to teach game, Mark Burnell wasn't cursed. Blake

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 4: And we're still waiting to get to what I know,

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Speaker 2: And we've got this long winning streak against them at

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Speaker 2: They have ETN and they've got Tank Bigsby and they

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Speaker 3: Right. Well, I mean that's catnip. I mean they're just

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Speaker 2: Right, But do you honestly believe I mean, they gave

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Speaker 1: But is he really a franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying.

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Speaker 4: I think he's their franchise quarterback. Is he a franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 4: It just didn't go as far as you wanted it

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 2: You know you have to have the quarterback on the field.

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Speaker 2: Trevor got hurt this year.

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Speaker 3: So let's look at the AFC real fast, all right,

440
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Speaker 3: do it?

441
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me which team would unequivocally

442
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 2: one hundred percent trade their guy for Trevor?

443
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead?

444
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: Bills, No Dolphins, no Jets, but yeah, Patriots no, No Chiefs, no,

445
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 2: no Chargers, no Broncos, No Raiders.

446
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: Yes, Ravens.

447
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd like him, but the Raiders

448
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: have nobody right now, right relatively? Yeah, I mean Trevor

449
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: anybody Ravens No Steelers, Yeah, but I don't think they'd

450
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: want him. But go on, Bengals absolutely not Browns. Yeah.

451
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, I think Lawrence is in the right

452
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: place for him, right right.

453
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: I really do, like It's kind of my point psychologically,

454
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a good market for him.

455
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 4: I think you put him anywhere else might not. Now,

456
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 4: different coaching situations you make it better. But maybe Liam

457
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: Cohen turns out to be a genius with him, I

458
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 4: don't know. But as far as dealing with the pressure

459
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 4: and the stress of being an NFL starter, now maybe

460
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 4: the opposite is true. Maybe he needs to be in

461
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: a pressurized environment. Look, when he played at Clemson, you

462
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 4: could not get more pressure.

463
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: This is a premiere program in the country. When he

464
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: takes over for.

465
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 4: Watson and he lives up to it, and then some

466
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a weird deal with him.

467
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: Which team does he take to the AFC Championship Game?

468
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts are the Tennessee Titans. Trevor Lawrence.

469
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's anybody, it's the Yeah. I believe more

470
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: in the Colts and what they've got with Jonathan Taylor,

471
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: et cetera. Yeah, and who they have on defense. But

472
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: would you would would the would.

473
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: The Colts trade Richardson for Trevor Trevor Lawrence?

474
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,239
Speaker 2: I think he would, Yes, I think because but one

475
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: thing I will say that that does get I don't

476
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: say overplayed, but Trevor with the long hair, you think

477
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: he's kind of like I don't care, he's just the

478
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: beach guy or whatever. He just no, Trevor. Trevor cares

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 2: very much. He plays the game hard. He knows he

480
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: knows more of how to be a competitor and a

481
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: captain and a leader of an offense than Anthony Richardson does.

482
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: Right now, I can I can promise.

483
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: You that sure he's not tapping out of the game.

484
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: The Trevor Lawrence is not tapping out of the game.

485
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: I mean he went out of that game against US.

486
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 2: I guarantee you had he been able to pop up

487
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: and get back to that huddle, he would have tried

488
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: to continue to play.

489
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: He's got that, He's got that in him.

490
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: Give me, give me hing on a second.

491
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: Let's let's go back to our guy for a moment

492
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 4: in this franchise quarterback and X Factor conversation.

493
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is the c J. Stroud moment of the

494
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 3: year to you?

495
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: Like?

496
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: What will stand out about twenty twenty four's season to

497
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: you about Straddley? Give me a moment, not a general theme,

498
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: but a moment, And there could be a theme behind

499
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: the moment. But you want mine? Mine is I'm okay,

500
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: go ahead, Mine is not even necessarily the play to

501
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: X in the playoff game. That was something.

502
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: But the running play on the field.

503
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: Goal drive before the half in the Charger game, the

504
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: twenty seven yard run where he got up and flexed.

505
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: I thought, that's my quarterback.

506
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 4: I need that from him, from a quarterback, anybody who's

507
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback. Hey, listen, I got to make a play.

508
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 4: We need these points before the break. I'm getting us

509
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: the points.

510
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

511
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: Look, I know it wasn't as shiny a season as

512
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: the rookie campaign, but that that whole first half against

513
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: the Chargers left me with this feeling of, oh man,

514
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: this is gonna be good because we're gonna go into

515
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 4: the offseason, not that we are going to be doubting,

516
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 4: but just wondering some things. And now you just know

517
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 4: that it's a rough year. You still for a rough year.

518
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: You went to the divisional round and you won your division. Again,

519
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: Give me that kind of rough year over the other

520
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: kind of rough year, and then we'll take it from here.

521
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: And you know he's got it in him. And that

522
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: showed even more.

523
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: Than twenty twenty three in many ways, because sometimes when

524
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: you have to take it on the ground yourself and

525
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: make a big play like that and take the punishment

526
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: and get yourself in field goal range. It just says

527
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: something about you as a as a person, as a player,

528
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: as a leader. And I love that about him. And

529
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: I don't see Trevor Lawrence doing stuff like that.

530
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna give you one that.

531
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: Actually you're gonna look at me and think I'm I'm

532
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: flipping crazy, but gonna I'm gonna give you this one.

533
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: The throw to Xavier Hutchinson.

534
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: Against the Packers right before the two minute warning.

535
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh, that was good. That was good.

536
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: Here's why. Here's why I say that because people, well,

537
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: you lost the game.

538
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: What He's getting a hell beat out of him that

539
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: day because he's getting no help from the offensive line none.

540
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: They are not protecting him. They have free runners all

541
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: game long. The frustration on him on the sideline. He

542
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: wasn't showing it on the sideline that day. There were

543
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: other times he did, but he didn't. Everything is going

544
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: against him that day. Nothing is right, absolutely zero. He

545
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: has got no time to throw, even on that play,

546
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: He's got no time to throw. But we have to

547
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: have a first down so we can then on the

548
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: other side of the two minute warning either try and

549
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: get their time move.

550
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: We don't how that went.

551
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: It didin't go well, but when he needed to make

552
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: that play, when everything was against him, he made it

553
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: almost improbably he makes that play here, hopefully is where

554
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans and Nick Kyley go back and they learn

555
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: something about CJ. Stroud because I said this the night

556
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: it happened. I said it that day to you on

557
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: the bus on the way home, and it to me

558
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: is what would have made that play even more evident

559
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: in people's eyes. Don't take the ball out of his hands.

560
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: In a key moment in Ohio State, on the final

561
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: drive of the game, he has just made a couple

562
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: of scrambles against George, a couple of key throws, and

563
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Day runs the ball. They haven't been able to

564
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: run the ball George all night. They run the ball,

565
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: don't get anything, and the thought is, well, you know,

566
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: we'll just run the ball, try and get something to

567
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: make a shorter fuel goal.

568
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you put the ball in Seven's hands.

569
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a moment right there after that two

570
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: minute warning. I know we hadn't protected it well, and

571
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: I know we're trying to run the timeouts, but you

572
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: and I talked about this.

573
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: The timeouts to me, were irrelevant. You had to score

574
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: a touchdown.

575
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 4: You had to at least get another like move it

576
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: on first down, right, get another first down, and maybe

577
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: you can kick with minimal.

578
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: Time put the ball in seven's hands, And that, to

579
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: me is the moment, because when you're thinking about how

580
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: frustrating the season was, and there were a lot of

581
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: frustrating moments, there were times receivers didn't catch.

582
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: I remember, I can't remember which game it was.

583
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking they got to help him out,

584
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: they being off.

585
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: It's a line. Oh, I know what it was. It

586
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: was a Chiefs game.

587
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: Obviously Tang made a big catch, but there was a

588
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: third down after the stop, fourth down, stop, third down throw,

589
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: CJ puts it on the money and Dalton drops it,

590
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: like on the money like.

591
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, we got the the December game.

592
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: In the December game, we get to stop at seventeen sixteen,

593
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: third down and twelve and CJ throws an absolute laser

594
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: shot to the sideline and Dalton drops it.

595
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: Why do I feel like Nick Kelly's gonna lose his

596
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 4: mind over mistakes like that?

597
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Especially tight ends, especially by tight ends.

598
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: Yes, I know what happens, but you got to make

599
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: that play. Yeah, adult will be the first one to

600
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: tell you he's got to make that play.

601
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm not insulting Dalton Schultz by saying that he would

602
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: sit here and say, dude, I gotta make that play.

603
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I think the Charger game cast over would beat himself

604
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: up on the air, maybe physically over that play.

605
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know Dalton obviously a little bit quieter,

607
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: but I guarantee you Dalon was beating himself up.

608
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, but competitor.

609
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: But the guys have to make those plays.

610
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: And I think that play against Green Bay, the throw

611
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: against it, You just those things made me think, don't

612
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: take the ball out of his hands. And I've heard

613
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: a promo that SWORTSRAYA six to ten is running and

614
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: one of the hosts said something about fixed CJ.

615
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Stroud. I can't get with that.

616
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and tell you that

617
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: CJ was absolutely as brilliant as he was in.

618
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three.

619
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: But I think there are a lot of other things

620
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: that have to get fixed around him that will then

621
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: push him to a higher level. Now he has to

622
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 2: get to a higher level. Two himself, but I think

623
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: there are things that will push him to a higher level.

624
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: It's fixed the offense, not fix fix the offense. Fix

625
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: the offense.

626
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: Because the Green Bay game, like you pointed out, I

627
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: hate to harp on this, but it's worth bringing up,

628
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: that was a microcosm of how the issues because in

629
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: that instance right there, the Packers were like, they're not

630
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: throwing it, we're coming after the run, and they stuffed

631
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: it for losses. They're not throwing it, but they threw

632
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: it on third and long, right the Texans, Yeah, well

633
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: on first down, there has to be what do we

634
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: feel when you're going up against the Mahomes or a

635
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: Burroughs or whoever or back in the day guy, Yeah,

636
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: they're thinking. You're thinking, well, they might run it, but

637
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: you better be ready because so and CJ.

638
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Stroud.

639
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's ready to throw it out and kill you

640
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: with a dagger.

641
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: So we got to be ready for everything instead of

642
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: we're selling out for the run here because we know

643
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: they're not throwing it, and they didn't.

644
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how they knew, but they guessed right clearly,

645
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: if at the very least, Yeah, absolutely, Okay. A text

646
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: conversation between the Texans radio crew had me thinking about

647
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: something and I think the Manton I left he has opinions.

648
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: I'll be curious to ask him this question. I want

649
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: you to think about this one during the break from

650
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: the time that we've covered the team.

651
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: And this is for all you guys out there as well.

652
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: All of us out there have players that do not

653
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: play for the Texans, but we watch them.

654
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: And go, dang, I really really liked that guy.

655
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: You can admit it.

656
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Now for retired players, I have a couple for sure

657
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: that I will tell you about. Luckily they played in

658
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: the NFC, but I'll tell you those. Mark will give

659
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: you the three players that he will grudgingly say that

660
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Speaker 2: he liked even though the Texans had to play against

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Speaker 2: some Next, right here in Texas All Access, Welcome back

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Speaker 2: this Friday, Nation of Texans All Access. I'm John Harris

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Speaker 2: alongside the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandry.

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Speaker 3: Now, this.

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Speaker 2: Segment basically was born out of a text conversation, a

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Speaker 2: text thread. We all have text threads between the Texans

667
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Speaker 2: radio crew, Aaron, Robert, Andre, Mark and myself and Market

668
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: sent a text and to all of us and it

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Speaker 2: was a highlight of Tony dor Set and your quote

670
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Speaker 2: to that was something along the lines of, this is

671
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Speaker 2: my second favorite cowboy.

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Speaker 1: The list is two.

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Speaker 3: The list is too, two cowboys that I actually.

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Speaker 2: Two cowboys that you actually like. Yeah, And it got

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Speaker 2: me thinking. I then joking when you said that your

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: list was Dak Dorset, Brandy Cooks, Jerry Billy, Joe Defree there.

677
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Then you came back and said Clint number yeah. So yeah,

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00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: the Cowboys of the team that everybody you know hates

679
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: obviously in Houston, all that kind of stuff. But it

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00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: got me thinking, because this happens all the time. We go,

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00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: we get ready to play a team and it's like,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you got to play that guy. I

683
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: love that guy. Wish you were playing for us. I

684
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: can't believe we've got to face them. Who are the

685
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Speaker 2: three players that you secretly liked that were never Texans

686
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Speaker 2: throughout the time you've been covering the league that you

687
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: could say retired players are not I'll give you a

688
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: couple of them to think about. These these are mine, okay,

689
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Now a couple of them they asked see and then

690
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: one of them is actually a Texan. Now, Aaron Donald

691
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: always loved Aaron Donald I like, I loved watching him

692
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Speaker 2: live and I think we got to do it twice.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was so fun.

694
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: Luke Keighley, Luke Keikley was He was incredible and I

695
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: loved him so much. The other one is Danike Audrey.

696
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: We would see Autrey play so often against US, and.

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Speaker 1: He would destroy us.

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Speaker 2: I was like, God, dang it, why can't he play

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Speaker 2: for US? Oh? I love that guy, and we'd have

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Speaker 2: to play for him. Variably, you'd have a sack, sack

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00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: in half turn a game, change the game, even on

702
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: bad Titans teams, like when they wore the Oilers uniforms

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00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: against Case, Like Audrey had two sacks in that game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like, dang it. Then they became a

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Speaker 3: textan It was really really cool.

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Speaker 2: So I know you have a list of players that

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Speaker 2: you hated. You hated facing Yeah, but who are those

708
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Speaker 2: guys that you hated but secretly you're like, you know,

709
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: I really like that guy, but you could never say it.

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Speaker 2: You can never say it because they were a different team.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not they're retire, But now you can say it.

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Speaker 2: Who are those players that you liked secretly that now

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Speaker 2: you can say it out loud?

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Speaker 3: All right, number three.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna say this because people listening to

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Speaker 4: what you said about my text to you guys when

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Speaker 4: I said Dorsett is my second favorite cowboy, the least

718
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Speaker 4: is too my number one all time favorite cowboy. And

719
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Speaker 4: it's not like I love this guy as far as

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Speaker 4: cowboys go. Danny White, which is a weird one because

721
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Speaker 4: he replaced Staubach.

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Speaker 3: They never won a Super Bowl with him.

723
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Speaker 4: But I felt for Danny White because they went to

724
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Speaker 4: three NFC championship three straight, three consecutive. Now, I know

725
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: he got hurt in the third one and Gary Hogeboom

726
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: Chippewa had to take over in that one against Washington,

727
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Speaker 4: but he went to three consecutive NFC Championship games.

728
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Speaker 3: One of them was the catch.

729
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Speaker 1: And punt it and punt it and punted.

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Speaker 2: And when Romo retired, people were like, good Romo in

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Speaker 2: the ring of honor, the cowboy fans, you jerks.

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Speaker 3: Danny White's not even in the ring of honor. And

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Speaker 3: he went to three NFC championship games. Romo can't get

734
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Speaker 3: out of the divisional round.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not just about the quarterback, but Danny

736
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Speaker 4: White gets disrespected by Cowboy Nation, and I kind of

737
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: felt for him that way. Plus he wears number eleven

738
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Speaker 4: and I like number eleven be cause Andre had number eleven.

739
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Speaker 4: But it plays into number three because when he first

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Speaker 4: burst out of the scene, I liked Tony Romo and.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the game. I'm gonna tell you

742
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Speaker 3: the game.

743
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Speaker 4: So first of all, we practiced against the Cowboys at

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Speaker 4: the Alamo Dome before scrimmaging them in three.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine that three?

746
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yes, we had I want to say,

747
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: well maybe.

748
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Speaker 1: Texas Cowboys scrimmage in the Alamo Dome.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Texans, not a preseason game scrimmage, and it had

750
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Speaker 4: and you can imagine how cool that was. We stayed

751
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Speaker 4: on the river walked why I would love to see

752
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: that Texans Cowboys at the Alamo Dome making You know,

753
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: you can't control the preseason schedule anymore, so bye bye

754
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 4: fictional Governor's Cup or whatever, but you.

755
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Speaker 3: Could control this.

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Speaker 4: You get together with the Cowboys at the Alamodome every

757
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: year if you wanted to, and it would be great. Yes,

758
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: it would be off the chain. You could sell tickets

759
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: or do whatever you want. But Romo was a rookie

760
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: then Clint was on the team. Actually Shunner was on

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Speaker 4: the team years later. So it's six David Carr at

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Speaker 4: Texas Stadium and we're up six to three at the half.

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Speaker 4: Texans leads sixty three at the half. Second half too

764
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Speaker 4: catches three touchdown passes. Bledsoe starting for the Cowboys. Romo

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Speaker 4: comes into the game.

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Speaker 2: The energy that Romo had, you could see it from

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Speaker 2: the press box.

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Speaker 4: You could see the vibes. There was something about him. Now,

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Speaker 4: I know, I just dissed him. I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: don't put him in the Ring of Honor. And I

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Speaker 4: still think that way. But what he had then, I

772
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Speaker 4: was like, we don't really have that in our guy,

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Speaker 4: and I wanted that at the time. Now, once we

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00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: got shop, I was like, all right, we got that job.

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Speaker 3: We're cool. But at that time I liked them. I'll

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Speaker 3: give you number two. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Number two is a guy who ended up being a Texan.

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Speaker 4: But it was a total freaking disaster, like worse than

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Speaker 4: a disaster, and that would be Hall of Famer Ed

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Speaker 4: Reed because Ed Reid and the O's I mean, I

781
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: was at the University of Miami.

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00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: I used to interview Ed Red, Ed visited here. I

783
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: saw him in the restroom. You know, we embraced in

784
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: the restroom.

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Speaker 3: Is that awkward? Anyway? Ed Red's here on a visit.

786
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Speaker 4: I was like, man, ed Reid's going to be a

787
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: Texan maybe, and came a Texan. I was so fired up,

788
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: Johnny and then total freaking disaster, like it made me

789
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: not like ed Reid. But now I'm I'm kind of

790
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 4: over it. But I loved ed Reid at you am.

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: I loved ed Reid and the o's playing for the Ravens.

792
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: I hated the Ravens, but ed Reid was a very

793
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: easy player to like get behind, especially since I had

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00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: a little bit of a history with him.

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Speaker 3: And Number one.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna be surprised about this

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Speaker 4: or not. Derrick Henry Derek Henry.

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00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: Secret crush on. Yeah. Now I don't like Derrick Henry.

799
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Speaker 4: I don't like facing Derek Henry, but that's why I

800
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: would want to, because Derrick Henry, to me, is the

801
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 4: most terrifying running back we've ever seen.

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: Period. End of story.

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00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't care who's run for more yards, but nobody's

804
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: really run for more yards when you go pound for pound,

805
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: of course, Derrick Henry is a nightmare and still is

806
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: a nightmare. Now.

807
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: Look he's getting a little older.

808
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: But for a long time he's in the backfield and

809
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, it's Derek.

810
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: That's why I love twenty twenty three so much. The

812
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: two games we had against him and absolutely crushed, destroyed

813
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: all his hopes and dreams in his last year with

814
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: the Titans. But I always thought that guy would come in.

815
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: Handy man, if you have a running back like that,

816
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: it makes life so much easier for everybody. And Ryan Tannehill,

817
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: you know, made a second act out of that in

818
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: his career, and Derreck Henry would be my guy.

819
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: I I would did not see that coming, but I

820
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: totally agree with you. Now's kind of the same thought process,

821
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: Like he just did his work.

822
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: He just worked. He just works his ass off, like

823
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: he's everything that's.

824
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: Good really about the NFL because he doesn't stay a

825
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: whole lot. He just gets in the off season and

826
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: you see all those workout videos he does, you know,

827
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: those those State farm commercials.

828
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: I think with him, are you know? I like him?

829
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: They're kind of cool.

830
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Uh. He's also from Yulei, Florida, which is just a

831
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: little bit north of Jacksonville, and so obviously I try

832
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: and follow that scene as much as possible.

833
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: Ulie's a tiny little school. It's not big.

834
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: In fact, the school, the school itself didn't even exist

835
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: when I was coaching there, but they they kind of

836
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: branched off from lower division Lord Division. Henry played there, yes,

837
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: and so I started hearing about him when he was

838
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: in eighth grade, Like this, this kid from Ulei in

839
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: eighth grade. And so places where I Banner coached, I'm

840
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: more apt to, like a little bit more. And so

841
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: I hear about this kid, and then I see him,

842
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, he's like Sasquatch compared to

843
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: everything else. And so Nick Saban told a hilarious story

844
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: on the Pivot podcast. He was talking about how Henry

845
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: had played at Yulei and so the running back coach

846
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: is just jumping Henry's you know what, like just all

847
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: in his mess about pass protection and you got a

848
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: block and like just killing him, destroying him. And we

849
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: walked over to Nick savement at one point, like coach

850
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: coach is killing me about this. Can y'all just back

851
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: off a little bit? All they did at Yuli was

852
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: just tossed the ball to me and I went left

853
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: or right.

854
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: We had a playbook.

855
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: He's like, y'all quick killing me, I'll get it, but

856
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: just give me a second and saving and was like okay,

857
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: and then you know, he turned in. He turned into

858
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. So, uh, that's that's a great one. That

859
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: that's a that's a really really really.

860
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: I mean there are other guys who were and he's

861
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: an all time Texans villain. Yeah, he's on the list

862
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: of the top five, top three. I would say, yeah,

863
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 4: I would have to say Manning, Derrick Henry. I want

864
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: to say Brady, but I got to put t Y

865
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 4: Hilton in there because yeah, the division division. I think

866
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 4: that's the top three list of Texans all time villains.

867
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: Yet I never wanted t Y Hilton on my team,

868
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: but I wanted Derek Henry.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you.

870
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: Said Derrick Henry because I'm gonna give you. I'll give

871
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: you my final one before we break. And you might

872
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: kill me for this.

873
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: But I have always been a Tom Brady fan, even

874
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: when he played. When he played, Yeah, yeah, I.

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00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: Love this story.

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00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: I loved everything about how he became the you know,

877
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Speaker 2: the six round pick that became the greatest and all that.

878
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: But then you hear about how he works.

879
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: And that's why when I hear Nick tell stories of

880
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: their time with New England and how hard he worked

881
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: and you know, pushed everybody, and I mean it wasn't

882
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: always perfect. But you started hearing a few more stories

883
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: over the years about how he was not this robot.

884
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: He drank beer with the guys. You know, he was

885
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: the most famous football player at the time on the planet, seemingly,

886
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: but watching him out on the field and how much

887
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: command he had of everything that was going on, it was,

888
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: it was, it was just everything.

889
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: And I was just like, I hated facing him. I

890
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: hated it. Was a Patriot.

891
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: But I've always really liked Tom Brady. When I went

892
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: to a box, when he went to the box, I cheered,

893
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: like hell for them.

894
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: I actually did too.

895
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: I wanted him.

896
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: I cheered for him as a admitted it, Tom Brady

897
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: because I liked the divorce with Belichick.

898
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: I liked all that the storyline, and I wanted the

899
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: old guy to win. You know who said it? I

900
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: think a lot of players have said it that they

901
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: love you when you're young, when you're you know, middle

902
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: aged in your career, eh, and then they love you

903
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: when you're old. You know, well you're old, they love

904
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: you again.

905
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: That was Brady.

906
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: I will never say that about Payton Manning. I've never

907
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: been even though now I can listen to Peyton Manning

908
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: now and I think he's funny. And I think they

909
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: do a really good job with their media.

910
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: Oh I love them now.

911
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: I love them now, But I never I never liked

912
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: Peyton man.

913
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Speaker 4: I've never rooted for him under any circumstances whatsoever. I've

914
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: always rooted for him to lose as a player. Eli too,

915
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 4: and that's why I watching Eli and the Patriots play

916
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl is so aggravating two times. But

917
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: with Peyton hated, hated, But now I think he's funny.

918
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: He's entertaining this SNL with him. I think it was

919
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: still playing then. Is the best athlete appearents on SSEM

920
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 4: And the.

921
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Speaker 2: Fact that during the anniversary show, if y'all haven't seen this,

922
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 2: he's the one athlete that actually gets up to say

923
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Speaker 2: something and it's funnier than most all the other comedians

924
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: that were there to do that particular show.

925
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I'll never get there in Peyton. I

926
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Speaker 1: just know.

927
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Speaker 2: But Brady, I was a fan of his at Michigan

928
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: and obviously with New England. It was like, I hate

929
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: facing that guy. But I remember Nick was telling the

930
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: story the other day when he was on with Sean

931
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Speaker 2: and Seth.

932
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Speaker 1: We were at the Greenbrier.

933
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: They came to practice against us, and the practice is

934
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: over and you look over and there's Alex Guerrero and

935
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: Brady doing a band workout.

936
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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget this.

937
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Watson and Hopkins are standing there in the middle of

938
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Speaker 2: the field. Their two fields are standing in between the

939
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: two fields, and they're just staring at him. Yeah, like

940
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: you go over there and work out with him, just

941
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: stared and watched him work out for twenty minutes.

942
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was just like.

943
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: That to me, is what said Brady apart.

944
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: So, who's yours at JA Harris Football at Texans Voice, tell.

945
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: Us who you secretly liked?

946
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: You would tell everybody you hated and didn't like, but secretly,

947
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: down deep, yeah, you really like that particular player who

948
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 2: faced the Texans. All right, we'll go round the league next.

949
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot a lot going on in the league.

950
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: We'll touch it all next. Right here, in Texans All Access,

951
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: What'll tip?

952
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Everybody?

953
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Friday edition of Texans All Access

954
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Speaker 2: from the Huddite Texans Radio Studio. I am your host,

955
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

956
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: Glad to finish up the show with you one final time.

957
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: A little bit of news around the NFL, and a

958
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: couple of these won. Well, they both indirectly impacted Texans,

959
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: but I guess both of them do.

960
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 3: Actually.

961
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the cin Sneadi Bengals have

962
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Speaker 2: released former Texans defensive tackles Sheldon Rankins rank and sign

963
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: with the Bengals, pretty significant number. He is now gone

964
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: after one year with the Cincinnati Bengals.

965
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people, Hey, Rankins is release,

966
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: go get him.

967
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: As much as I love Sheldon, I think there's a

968
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Speaker 2: reason that Texans didn't give him money to come back

969
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty four. And I think in actuality, although

970
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: rank had a couple of really nice ballgames in twenty

971
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: twenty three, I think he actually got more out of

972
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Folly when he was healthy, definitely, and a Mario Edwards

973
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: when he used healthy and available and Tim Settle so

974
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: We'll see what that means for rankins going forward. But

975
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: one year in Cincinnati, Bengals then find ten million dollars

976
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 2: of cap space in making that particular maneuver. The last

977
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Speaker 2: team to make a key personnel decision higher Jacksonville Jaguars.

978
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: I talked about them a little bit in the first segment.

979
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Believe as Tony BISSELLI became the executive vice president of

980
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: all operations for the Jaguars, but they did not have

981
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: a general manager, and this kind of came to fruition

982
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: a little bit. And I was thinking about this today

983
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: when Mark we talked about this earlier.

984
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Speaker 1: We are at combine.

985
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: We got our combine layout, and on the combine layout

986
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: there also was a schedule of who is speaking when

987
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: GM's head coaches, et cetera. And there was just a

988
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: spot it said Jaguars GM TBD. Well, I don't know

989
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: if James Gladstone has enough time to get prepared to

990
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: make a speech and talk to the media at the combine,

991
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: but that who that's who is the new GM for

992
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now the picture that they put online

993
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: doesn't do him much justice. But shot com put out

994
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: a statement today said it's his honor to introduce James

995
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Gladstone as the new general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

996
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: James merged as my choice, being shod and our choice,

997
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: meaning I guess everybody following a painstaking but energizing interview process,

998
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: they'll have nothing to doubt. Every candidate delivered and I'm

999
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: grateful to them for all their preparation time spent this

1000
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: week in Jacksonville. Now, Gladstone has experience with the Los

1001
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams, where head coach Liam Cohen was once offensive coordinator,

1002
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: so there definitely is a Rams connection. I kind of

1003
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: know about that when Nick Keylee coming over from the Rams.

1004
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Jerry Saplinski, who we talked about in the first segment

1005
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: as coaches were announced, he is coming from the Rams.

1006
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: But Gladstone, if I did my math correct, he is.

1007
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: I think he's about thirty four to thirty five. Young guy,

1008
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: very very young guy. So he takes over as the GM.

1009
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Speaker 2: And as I've also said with Jacksonville, what does that mean?

1010
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Does that mean that he's the glorified scout that kind

1011
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: of leads the scouts or is he making personnel decisions?

1012
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: How is he working with Cohen where does MASSELLI fall

1013
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: into that. It's a dynamic that they're gonna have to

1014
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: really come to grips with, and I'm curious to see

1015
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Speaker 2: how they do that. They did it in Jacksonville in

1016
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen when Tom Coughlin was the EVP and the

1017
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: GM was David Caldwell and the head coach was Doug Roan,

1018
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: and the first year was great, and then after that

1019
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: it didn't go all that well because I don't think

1020
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: that Tom Couughlin necessarily meshed with the other two and

1021
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: then they.

1022
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Speaker 1: All lost their jobs shortly after then.

1023
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: That put the Jags on a turnstile that hasn't been

1024
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: good for them. So hoping that turnstile stays that way.

1025
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Speaker 2: But James Glatson, the new general manager in Duval County

1026
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: for the Jacksonville Jaguars, all right, that's going to do it.

1027
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Mark. To all you guys who are listening.

1028
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Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday from here the rest of the

1029
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Speaker 2: week in Indy for the NFL Scout and Combine.

1030
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Speaker 1: We'll see you then and as always, go Texans.