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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Last Dance, Last Chance audition

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals get set for their preseason finale in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>giving players one last chance to make their case for

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty three man roster or the sixteen man practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad coming up. Dave Lapham joins me to discuss some

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<v Speaker 1>key topics at this stage of the preseason, including the

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<v Speaker 1>most important one of all. Will Joe Burrow be the

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback in Week one at Cleveland? Then I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to one of those guys who is hoping for a

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<v Speaker 1>big game on Saturday night to improve his chances of

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<v Speaker 1>sticking around undrafted wide receiver Shdrick Jackson. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>and to look at some key questions at this stage

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap.

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<v Speaker 1>With one game left in the preseason, the number two

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback job is still up in the air. Jake Browning

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<v Speaker 1>has the better stats so far, but he has never

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<v Speaker 1>thrown a pass and in a regular season NFL game.

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Simion has thirty starts under his belt. Where do

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<v Speaker 1>you think things stand right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a close competition, there's no question. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you point out the thing that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to On one side of it, got a

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<v Speaker 2>young guy, very inexperienced. You got a veteran player that's

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot, been exposed to a lot of different offenses,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different situations, maybe not on the football field,

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<v Speaker 2>but has experienced and then has more reps obviously on

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<v Speaker 2>the football field as well, so you weigh that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>The flip side of it, got a younger guy who

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<v Speaker 2>has been in the Bengals system longer, who has done

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<v Speaker 2>as well. You know, it's almost a dead heat, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's younger. So I mean those that's that's the that's

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<v Speaker 2>the quandary. I'm gonna have to make a decision. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come come right down to it looks like the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the practices are equally important, I think then

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<v Speaker 2>as the performances. And they've done as good a job

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<v Speaker 2>as they possibly can in terms of guys having quote,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe better players around them. Not to give

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<v Speaker 2>an edge one way or the other in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>well they always had the you know, the backup at

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<v Speaker 2>every position. Not guys struggling and trying to make the

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<v Speaker 2>final roster kind of thing. So all those go into

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<v Speaker 2>one big pot and you stir it up and come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a decision. I mean, it's it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a definite battle. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>Does one or the other have to be the backup?

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<v Speaker 1>At least in week one. I could see them bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in another quarterback from somebody else's roster, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to imagine that guy would immediately become the backup.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with you, Dan, I mean I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just unlearning and relearning terminology that would be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stressful. It's not like, depending on who the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback is and how much experience he has, just about

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<v Speaker 2>any quarterback would understand the concepts that the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about and what they'd be you know, presenting to

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<v Speaker 2>that individual to understand. But then what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the terminology? And you know, sometimes you can be

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<v Speaker 2>bogged down a little bit just by language alone in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of communication and calling the play properly and all

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing in the huddle for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it would be you know, not impossible,

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<v Speaker 2>but a tough, tough task for sure, to have somebody

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<v Speaker 2>come in off the street and and you know, God forbid,

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<v Speaker 2>have to be the guy, you know, to lead him

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<v Speaker 2>up there in Cleveland on the road against the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>If the backup has to play, And hopefully that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the case now. One name that we've talked about off air,

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<v Speaker 1>people have started to speculate in various places is Brandon Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been Joe Burrow's backup for the last three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, he's in San Francisco. By all accounts, he's

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<v Speaker 1>number four on their depth chart. Hard to believe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep four. They got rock Perty, Sam Darnold and Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's cut, as is widely expected, should the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>try to sign him at least to the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be a good move if, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that could present itself, because here's a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that obviously understands this offense and when he called upon,

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<v Speaker 2>he had some decent performance. I mean, he went out

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<v Speaker 2>there and executed that game down in Houston. He put

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<v Speaker 2>up some really good numbers, no question about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's highly respected by people in the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>By Joe Burrow. I think, you know, the quarterback room

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<v Speaker 2>would be welcoming him with open arms. So it would

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<v Speaker 2>be a very very smooth and easy transition and something

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<v Speaker 2>that has some potential possibly.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing to keep in mind is if he is cut,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengal might not be the only team that goes

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<v Speaker 1>after him. There's been speculation that the Rams would be interested.

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<v Speaker 1>He's familiar with Sean McVay from having time having spent

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<v Speaker 1>time there as a backup. So just because he's cut

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean the Bengals have a free opportunity. And by free,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about dollars and cents, but can just

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<v Speaker 1>automatically add him. He's going to consider whatever options he

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<v Speaker 1>might have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and uh, you know he's a vested player

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<v Speaker 2>obviously more than four four vested years, so he's free.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have to go through like guys years one, two,

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<v Speaker 2>and three. If they're let go, they have to go

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<v Speaker 2>through the draft order, you know, just the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>finish worst to best. You know, they get the teams

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<v Speaker 2>that finish worst get the best shot, first shot, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, and then all the way up to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the best team in the NFL. Having the final shot. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is, he's free to he's free to go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere and uh and choose a situation he thinks it's

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<v Speaker 2>best for him. So yeah, it'd be interesting. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see and he would just because of his

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<v Speaker 2>experience with head coaches that are still in the National

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<v Speaker 2>Football League, he would draw some interest, There's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were watching practice the other day. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on one part of the field. You were studying the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. You walked over to me raving about Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Carmen's physical ability. It hasn't consistently carried over when he's

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<v Speaker 1>played in games. Is it confidence? Is it technique? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think those great tools don't consistently produce great performance?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think consistency is is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more more of a mental thing. Focus, concentration, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't let your mind stray, don't be overcome by

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<v Speaker 2>something if if if there's movement in the defensive front,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, don't freeze. Uh, you know, try to try

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<v Speaker 2>to keep yourself in as good a mindset as you

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<v Speaker 2>possibly can, because if if he's playing free and easy

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<v Speaker 2>mentally physically, he can get it done. I mean physically

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<v Speaker 2>he's got he's got a heck of a toolbox, he

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<v Speaker 2>really does. But I think it is it's it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now, now he might be in a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a situation where he was pressing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some who knows what's going through the mind of a

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<v Speaker 2>young guy like that. But if he goes up to

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<v Speaker 2>the line of scrimmage with confidence, knowing that this is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I'm going to do, if they make this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an adjustment, I know this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do, and hesitancy just kills you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you're if you have any doubt when

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<v Speaker 2>the ball is snapped and you're thinking should I do

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<v Speaker 2>this or do that, it's it's done. You're you're beaten

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<v Speaker 2>before the play even starts. So the physical part of

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<v Speaker 2>it is just a part of it, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good part to have, but all areas of the mental

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of the game, you don't have to be fine

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<v Speaker 2>tuned as well. And I think that's where you know

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's had a little bit of a struggle, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you do have a problem physically, like

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't take the proper step, that's a mental thing

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I mean, physically you're capable of doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>but mentally, if you took an improper angle or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the case may be, now, all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 2>doubt yourself again. And you know that is the worst

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<v Speaker 2>enemy of anything in any athlete in the sports. Self

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<v Speaker 2>doubt kills you, destroys you.

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<v Speaker 1>The only offensive starter who has played so far in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason and will probably be the only start of

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<v Speaker 1>the plays in the preseason, is Jonah Williams of right tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>He got his first NFL snaps at right tackle last

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<v Speaker 1>week in Atlanta. How'd you think he did?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he did pretty well. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was a mix up in the in that drive

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<v Speaker 2>in that there was a play that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be changed, and I think formationally it looked like it

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<v Speaker 2>was odd he was doing an assignment on the backside

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<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't do on the backside, you'd do on

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<v Speaker 2>the front side, and so there was some sort of problem.

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<v Speaker 2>When I looked at it again, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes Jonah look really bad, But I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might even been a back lined up on the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>side of the quarter back. From a formation standpoint, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing was disjointed. And that's the only snap where

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like you know, in first blush was like, good,

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't look But I don't think it was I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it was his problem necessarily. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was something else and he was doing what he was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to do. And that's the thing if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're looking at something, say, oh man, that guy

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<v Speaker 2>just got his butt kicked, Well, what if the play

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<v Speaker 2>design was supposed to be something totally different. He was

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<v Speaker 2>doing exactly what he was supposed to do and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that. So the only people that know that

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<v Speaker 2>are the coaches and the players. So sometimes things can

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<v Speaker 2>look one way and they're totally another. That's the danger

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<v Speaker 2>of being quote, Okay, I'm going to grade this. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know exactly what everybody's supposed to do on

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<v Speaker 2>every single play sometimes. But with all that said, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that he was fluid. I thought he felt comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he felt comfortable anyway. You could tell he'd

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<v Speaker 2>worked at it, and the whole time he was rehabbing

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<v Speaker 2>that knee injury, he was doing something. You know, once

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<v Speaker 2>he found out that they were going to make the

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<v Speaker 2>move to the right tackle position. He definitely took a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of sets and you know, time on task, a

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<v Speaker 2>repetition breeds, comfortablevel all that stuff. It's not like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he sat around just feeling sorry for himself. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to give him a lot of credit. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>went to work and uh and fine tuned, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>reversing the sets. It's it's it's interesting people think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's easy to do. It's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times it's not if you're you know, not not everybody

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<v Speaker 2>can be ambidexterous, you know. And uh, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a totally different feel and it's almost like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to remake yourself, you know. It's like you have

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<v Speaker 2>a certain way of doing things on the right side,

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<v Speaker 2>then a certain way of doing things on the left side.

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<v Speaker 2>I can speak from experience on that, because you do have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a dominant side and you have to make

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<v Speaker 2>adjustments and all that sort of thing. So I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that with all of that having having unfolded in a

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<v Speaker 2>short period of time for him, I thought he looked

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<v Speaker 2>pretty darn good. I thought he acquitted himself. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me this week he's reached the point where

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to think about this hand, this foot,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff anymore. Moving from left to right.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that kind of the first big key. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're no longer having to process which side you're.

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<v Speaker 2>On it is because as we know in this league,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fast. I mean, it's instantaneous. So if you're again

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<v Speaker 2>you know, okay, I have to make sure I got

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<v Speaker 2>to put this okay on this play. Yeah, this right

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<v Speaker 2>hand has to be at this number, and it has

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<v Speaker 2>to be just like a reactionary. It has to be

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<v Speaker 2>second nature. And again that's you know, that self doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not necessarily doubt, but it's not quite totally sure

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<v Speaker 2>of it being like an instantaneous reaction. That that that

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<v Speaker 2>makes it harder. That that puts a lot of stress

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<v Speaker 2>on the player. So the more time on task and

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<v Speaker 2>the more repetition he gets, and then now it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting because you know, he hasn't gotten any

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<v Speaker 2>reps with the right guard that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing with the opener up there in Cleveland, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a little bit of an adjustment there.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be time on task with live bullets, so it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting thing to watch how it progresses.

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<v Speaker 1>Much more to come with lap including his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>Trenches with Dave Lapham. The stuff that he said about

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<v Speaker 1>chess in and of itself made it a great listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheeto started doing eleven on eleven stuff this week. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks great physically, That's been the case for several weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is not committing yet to playing in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he'll know when he's ready. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess maybe I'm a combination of thinking and hoping.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just watching him flip his hips and run

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<v Speaker 2>and the things that he did. And it's not only

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<v Speaker 2>in seven on seven and team it was. It was impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really impressive. So I do think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like like he said on the podcast, he goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I'd play aff to four months. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that good. But you can't do that. But

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<v Speaker 2>that tells you the type of condition that he's in,

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<v Speaker 2>the type of athlete he is. You know, these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>their bodies are like it's ridiculous. I mean, they're so

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<v Speaker 2>capable of bouncing back from serious trauma in such a

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<v Speaker 2>short period of time. It really is incredible. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, he's been taking a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>mental reps. He's been out there into it the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if now you start to fall into

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<v Speaker 2>a category like Joe Burrow of you know, it's you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're fresh, You're you're not beating up at all. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any training camp, nicks, bumps, bruises, nothing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel as good as you've ever felt going into

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<v Speaker 2>a start in a regular season, because you know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>taken some mental things and you've done some of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the work here down the stretch, and hopefully for

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<v Speaker 2>both of them a couple of weeks prior to that

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<v Speaker 2>first regular season game they'll get significant work in. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the positive of it. It's like, man, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never felt better in my life to start an NFL

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<v Speaker 2>regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheetah is very intellectual. He may even be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit superstitious. I don't know, but he's going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote scene at the crime. The injury happened

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<v Speaker 1>at Cleveland on Halloween. That's where the Bengals open. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be competing against his good friend Amari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>That's who he was kind of ring when it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He might just be the type of person that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to talk about it until he is out

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<v Speaker 1>on that field in Week one.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, you know, I think I think he wants to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, control the narrative and the drama and everything

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<v Speaker 2>associated with it as best he possibly can. And and

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to do that is to is to

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<v Speaker 2>not be definitive, you know as to what your what

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<v Speaker 2>your plans are. So I it's gonna be it is

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<v Speaker 2>though it's so the coincidences are so like, man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like there's something else in control of this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is weird. The football gods are saying, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's test this guy's metal by by all of

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<v Speaker 2>these circumstances. And uh. And honestly, the football gods owe

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<v Speaker 2>him a year of leaving him alone in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>an injury standpoint, because the guy had to go through

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit and he certainly did it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Bengals leading receivers. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason andre Yosi Vosh nine catches for ninety four yards.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been targeted twenty times in the two preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Bengals drafted him out of Princeton, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I used the expression of lottery ticket at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking big, strong, fast, IVY League athlete with a

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<v Speaker 1>track background. It's going to take a while. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a project. I was wrong. He's not a project.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of the best six receivers on

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<v Speaker 1>the team. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed? One percent agreed? And I think I think the

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<v Speaker 2>organization is a little bit surprised about how far along

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<v Speaker 2>he is in terms of being an NFL caliber receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing that I admire about him, he had

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<v Speaker 2>a tendency early in training camp even to use his body,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and not get the full extension of his arms.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big plus for him. He's six ' three

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<v Speaker 2>with long arms. His catching radius is big, and he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even utilizing it fully yet. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>give I give credit where credits due. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>was coached and he accepted the coaching, and he extended

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<v Speaker 2>those arms. And he's starting you know, he's catching with

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<v Speaker 2>his hands now and not not catching with his body

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<v Speaker 2>as much. And he's made a dramatic improvement in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of high pointing and contested catches and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there's no doubt that the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>has impressed the coaching staff is his ability to Receivers

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<v Speaker 2>have to read things and make adjustments like quarterbacks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on coverages, when they're running routes, they have to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the same page as the quarterback. And just because

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<v Speaker 2>you're an IVY League educated person, that's intelligence doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>equate to football IQ, and particularly if you haven't experienced

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and it's just such a higher level He's

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty seamless and flawless in that regard, which is good.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got not only raw intelligence, he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>really strong football IQ as well. And you know he's

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<v Speaker 2>a sponge, just like what else you got for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's taken all the coaching in and looking

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<v Speaker 2>for more. And that's what That's what you love is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that you know, the Good Lord blessed with

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<v Speaker 2>all these physical attributes. Well, he wants to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he wants to be do everything he possibly

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<v Speaker 2>can to maximize that and accepting coaching the right way

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<v Speaker 2>is a great way to do it. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>Courtel Volson's like that, you know, the young left guard.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's physically gifted, but you know he knows

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<v Speaker 2>that he needs to maximize what the Good Lord has

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<v Speaker 2>given him. And that guy works man, and Yosi Vash

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<v Speaker 2>is the same. I mean they have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>young players and a lot of players period on this

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<v Speaker 2>football team that really work hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Cordel Olson, what do you make of Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon saying he is a potential Hall of Famer at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Pumped the brakes a little bit, But I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really like it. It's great when teammates

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<v Speaker 2>have that kind of feeling about another teammate. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>I had conversation with Cordel Volson and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even from this year, I said, oh, you know, watching

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<v Speaker 2>you this year as compared to last year, man, you

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<v Speaker 2>really worked at it. And he's, you know, three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five pounds with the lowest body fat any

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman. So he has done it right. He's worked

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<v Speaker 2>extremely hard. And you know, he looked at me and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, I want to be great, man.

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<v Speaker 2>My goal is to be great. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be okay or you know, good, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be great. And I'm like, that's half the battle right there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, having that kind of an attitude. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that any offensive line coach would love

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<v Speaker 2>to work with. And he's got a good one to

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<v Speaker 2>work with. Frank Pollock is a guy that gives you

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of tools to put in that toolbox, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can you can change some of the

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<v Speaker 2>tools in that toolbox on a week two week basis,

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<v Speaker 2>and Cordel Volson is capable of you know, applying all

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<v Speaker 2>of it, so it's a good combination there.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not heard anyone refer to Jalen Davis as

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<v Speaker 1>a potential Hall of Famer, but Chitabo Wouje calls him

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<v Speaker 1>every day Davis because he seemingly makes plays every day.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a couple of interceptions at a practice this week.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had a bunch of them in this training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Jalen Davis the starting nickel corner on most NFL teams?

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<v Speaker 2>In your opinion, Bingo, absolutely, I mean to me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the Cincinnati Bengals. They just extended their two linebackers.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of their linebackers, you know, Logan Wilson and Jermaine

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<v Speaker 2>Pratt are three down players in the NFL. In today's NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>the way the offenses have evolved, if you've got one

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<v Speaker 2>three down linebacker on your roster, you're fortunate. When you

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<v Speaker 2>have two and then throw Keem Davis Gator in the

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<v Speaker 2>mix as three. Marcus Bailey can pretty much get there

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Four Are you kidding me? Well, now the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals getting back to Davis, two corners that are starting

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<v Speaker 2>caliber slot corners in the NFL. I mean mean you

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<v Speaker 2>go to your dine package. You got both slots covered

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<v Speaker 2>by these guys. I mean, it's it's unbelievable in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of having you know, depth and talented depth at these

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<v Speaker 2>physician groups. It really is. They've they've identified guys, They've

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<v Speaker 2>identified them properly, and these guys have come in and

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<v Speaker 2>the mesh between the coach and player has been extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>So now one plus one equals three and they're in

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<v Speaker 2>a good spot. Defensively, Lou and Romo can do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things with these guys with the versatility and

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<v Speaker 2>the depth of the versatility he's got in that roster.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't have a podcast conversation without discussing the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow. As we tape this, we are eighteen days

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<v Speaker 1>away from the season opener at Cleveland. We saw Joe

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<v Speaker 1>today in the Bengals cafeteria, pink T shirt, shorts, looking comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>looking fine, looking happy. I think things are trending in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction, but we don't see him by the

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<v Speaker 1>way the training staff behind the scenes or whatever he

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<v Speaker 1>might be doing in walk through periods or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Joe Burrow the starting quarterback in week one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I really believe that he is you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>I watch him just just walking around physically, he looks

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<v Speaker 2>as strong and as ready as I've ever seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he looks he looks unbelievable. The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to worry about with this training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as you start to think about positives, all

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks worry about dead arm, too many throws. Don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about that. You know, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about bumps and bruises, necks and little things you

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<v Speaker 2>know that you might have accumulated during training camp. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to worry about that. Unfortunately, got the bump

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<v Speaker 2>in the neck early and had to shut it down

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<v Speaker 2>with that, with that calf strain. But you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the freshest physically and mentally that he's been because,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's off of appendectomies where he'd lost so

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<v Speaker 2>much weight and so much strength. He was a shell

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<v Speaker 2>of himself, you know, or an acl where you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're rehabbing a reconstruction of a joint, a key joint

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<v Speaker 2>in your body. We're talking about a cash strain here.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I just think that that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be He's gonna be off to a great start. And

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<v Speaker 2>how many times Dan in his in his early career

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<v Speaker 2>here in mini camps, in after a draft in May

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, it's like two days in the mini camp.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching him. I'm thinking, crap, this guy's ready to

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<v Speaker 2>play right now. He's carving it up. Look at this dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he he is so ready all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He never lets himself fall apart. I mean he never

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<v Speaker 2>takes like a downtime. And it's like, yeah, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get sloppy. I'm gonna get sloppy with my preparation,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get sloppy physically. He's always on and many

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<v Speaker 2>times during OTA's in mini camp it's been the dude

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<v Speaker 2>looks like mid season for him. I have no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>that this is going to be able to throw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball straight inaccurately as he ever has with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks of practice. There's no doubt in my mind. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, now, in a perfect world, would you

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<v Speaker 2>like to have been able to get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more practice time with guys, particularly Yoshivash and guys like

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<v Speaker 2>that Charlie Jones. Yeah, But if he gets a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks with those guys, all will be good. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yes, he's starting against the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the headline from Dave lappam mark it down. But

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<v Speaker 1>when Zach Taylor says in response to how much time

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<v Speaker 1>does he need one rep, he's not exaggerating that much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, it's like, okay, well, you know, being facetious,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, there's some reality to it. I honestly, watching him,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, in these camps, mini camps and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>all at various points, take a pick a spot in

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<v Speaker 2>the off season, he never looks that different. He always

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he's game ready. So I have no qualms

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<v Speaker 2>fears whatsoever about Joe Burrow going out there and given

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<v Speaker 2>a performance that will be you know, exceptional against the

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Browns. I mean he went out there after the appendectomy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, had the turnovers, but I mean just for

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<v Speaker 2>him to be out there, he was literally a shell

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<v Speaker 2>of himself physically, and he goes out there and plays

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<v Speaker 2>an NFL game against that caliber of a football team,

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<v Speaker 2>coach that well by a guy like Mike Tomlin his

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff, and still has his team in position to

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<v Speaker 2>potentially win the football game. Sh I ain't worried. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there. He'll be there against the Browns up in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be there. Mistake on the lake, He'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Lap's lips to God's ears. Let's help. He's right, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, I think he is. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>Visit ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. Following Saturday night's

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<v Speaker 1>game at Washington, the next couple of days are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be nerve racking for quite a few players on

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<v Speaker 1>every team. Right now, NFL franchises can have ninety players.

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<v Speaker 1>By Tuesday at four o'clock, the roster has to be

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<v Speaker 1>cut to fifty three. The following day, teams can establish

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<v Speaker 1>a sixteen man practice squad. That means that every team

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<v Speaker 1>has to say goodbye to roughly twenty players. Multiply that

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty two teams and nearly six hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>players will be out of work next week. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals rookies facing an anxious weekend is Sderick Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Bengals skill and depth at wide receiver, Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>almost certainly won't make the fifty three man roster, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the running to make the practice squad. And

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to the undrafted rookie out of Auburn this week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Schedick four catches last week for forty two

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>yards in Atlanta. That's a good game, but you also

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>had a twenty six yard catch that got negated by

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a penalty. You drew a thirty yard pass interference penalty,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're pretty pumped up about that performance.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I feel like I went out there and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, made most of my opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you said, that last catch kind of hurt with

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<v Speaker 4>the with the flag coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as I got up, I saw the flag,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew knew what it was, unfortunately, But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to build each week and get a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better, take advantage of my opportunities, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>and finish out camp strong.

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<v Speaker 1>The first preseason game was solid as well. You had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of catches in that game and had the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to return three kicks. They're giving you chances to

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<v Speaker 1>show what you can do. Do you take that to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good sign?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a great sign.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very grateful for the opportunity to Bengals to give

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>me to go out there showcase my talents. And great

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>coach of staff, great teammates around me. So it's been

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<v Speaker 3>it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting the Chrederick Jackson. I asked Zach Taylor about

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<v Speaker 1>you today. He said he has earned my trust by

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the playbook. He's clearly put a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>in and learning our offense. Is that about right?

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds about right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since you know they told me or I said

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<v Speaker 3>I would sign with him in free agency, I've just

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<v Speaker 3>been trying to study the playbook, understand as much as

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<v Speaker 3>I can multiple receivers positions, because that's how you like

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<v Speaker 3>you like, he said, gain trust and get on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>get those opportunities. So ever since, ota has been something

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<v Speaker 3>I prided myself on, a knowing each position and not

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<v Speaker 3>only what to do, but how to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>When the head coach says he's earned my trust, is

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<v Speaker 1>that about as good a compliment as you can get.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's up there, especially from a head

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<v Speaker 3>coach in the league. So being at this level and

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<v Speaker 3>continue to try to gain that trust, it's just, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, a big deal. It's truly a blessing in

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<v Speaker 3>them looking to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with Chrederick Jackson. So you're in a wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver room with three of the best in the game

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<v Speaker 1>and Jamar, Chase t Higgins and Tyler Boyd. Who have

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<v Speaker 1>you learned the most from?

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's a tough one.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean even those three guys like coming in, I

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<v Speaker 3>knew I would be able to look at them and

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<v Speaker 3>take a little bit from their game and learn a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But even the guys behind that, a lot of people don't,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, give a lot of attention to, like Trent Irwin,

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<v Speaker 3>Trent Taylor, Stan Kwalme, all those guys. So it's been

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<v Speaker 3>great being in that room and just learning from a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of the veteran guys that are just great people too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. You're a sponge. You can learn from anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>most definitely. So you signed with the Bengals after playing

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<v Speaker 1>at Auburn. Were you disappointed that you didn't get drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you expect to be selected?

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of knew the reality of it going into it.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 3>If it wasn't, you know, somewhere in later rounds, I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that going on drafted was a possibility. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>watching it, of course, as being a competitor, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a little bit disappointed, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity came with the Bengals and you know other

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 3>teams that called. So I'm glad to be here and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, pushing forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Did to put a chip on your shoulder?

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<v Speaker 4>It did? I would say that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked before and discussed your pro day where you

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>ran a four two five forty. You're one of the

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>fastest guys on the team. If everybody lined up at

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line and had to sprint forty yards, who wins?

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely like me. I think, of course DJ Turner

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<v Speaker 3>would be there. He ran a fast forty two, but

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<v Speaker 3>I like me.

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<v Speaker 1>I also spoke to you this spring about your famous

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>uncle Bo Jackson. You had a great line. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that he was arguably the greatest athlete of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, second best behind me in all seriousness. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a great source of pride to be Bo's nephew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's something that I've uh, you know, growing up with.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm used to it by now. You know, people as

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<v Speaker 3>me about people comparing me, you know, the speed and strength,

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. So honestly, when I'm out there playing,

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 3>when I'm out there practicing, you know, I'm gonna just

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>worry about my craft and it doesn't really cost my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's just something I'm used to at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very good natured when I ask you about it

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get annoying at times.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 4>It has in the past, and you know, I've had to.

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Tell people to dial it back a little bit, but

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>it's just, you know, something you gotta live with. Of Course,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 3>having somebody of that statue in the game in the past,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 3>of course you're gonna get questions about it, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got one preseason game left coming up against Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your goals for this third and final preseason game?

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<v Speaker 1>And how nerve racking well the days after that, bab.

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<v Speaker 3>I try not to think about the days after, but

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<v Speaker 3>just going out there, continue to play football, that's all

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>it is, and go out there and get my all.

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<v Speaker 4>Continue to execute the players or whatever. Let's be executed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Make plays and go out there and play fast. So

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<v Speaker 3>just looking forward to playing football. You've earned the coaches trust.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good sign. Best of luck appreciation. That's Shedar Jackson.

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