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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday, April eleventh, and it's our playoff preview episode.

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Speaker 3: We cannot fucking wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited, so are my good friends who are

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Speaker 2: here with me. The host of Jenkins and Jones, Dragonfly

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Speaker 2: Jones aka Tyler future Twitter board member.

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Speaker 3: Future Twitter board member. I'm gonna make a I'm never

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Speaker 3: going to join that ship, Tyler. Yeah, I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say Tyler's not gonna go because it won't pay anything.

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Speaker 2: But I'm trying to start the movement on Twitter to

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Speaker 2: get you and fat kid deals put on to put

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Speaker 2: on the board. You guys are the two m vps

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Speaker 2: of fucking twitters.

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Speaker 1: The decision making capabilities here and Lejetro Jenkins aka John.

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Speaker 4: Was Ambo was part of my upper lip, this motherfucker

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Speaker 4: looking long as hell.

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Speaker 3: Bro got a little too happy with them.

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Speaker 4: Clippers not to bear too much, this upper lip looking

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Speaker 4: twice as long this morning.

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Speaker 2: John John spent Saturday in Long Beach with me, and

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Speaker 2: he went home so intimidated by my facial hair that

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Speaker 2: he just just took heady clippers to his own face.

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Speaker 3: It's never gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Bro went to the barber and asked for the Republican

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Speaker 1: and that's what republican again, somebody.

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Speaker 2: Before we start talking about the playoffs, it has been

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Speaker 2: brought to my attention, and I have to bring this

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Speaker 2: up to y'all because this is absolutely fucking crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: I want the two of you to think back to

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Speaker 2: the first episode of Jenkins and Jones you recorded.

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Speaker 3: I believe you both say you were.

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Speaker 2: So nervous you had to get drunk just to try

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Speaker 2: and like intro the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the two hundred and fiftieth episode of

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Speaker 4: I mean, consider how long you've been doing it. It's

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Speaker 4: not that many.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: So two hundred and fifty weeks is about four years, right,

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Speaker 1: three years off? Yeah, five years and we recorded. We

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Speaker 1: started recording twenty fifteen, so seven years ago. So we've

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Speaker 1: done about five years of work in seven years.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Hell yeah is it? So the volume

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Speaker 3: has turned the raateo? Yeah, yeahead, And that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Let's consider that we do it twice a week too,

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Speaker 1: on like three years worth the pods and like five

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Speaker 4: We took off the times we should have you feel me,

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Speaker 4: who's pretty outside.

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Speaker 3: We was like, we'll do it next week, bucket. I

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Speaker 2: I would put it like this, two hundred fifty episodes

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Speaker 1: We we fucking slacked our way off into the motherfucking bag.

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Speaker 1: The American dream Man.

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Speaker 2: This is the most seriously I've taken the Clippers in

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Man, you think they beat you think they beat the

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Speaker 2: Wolves to get the Grizzlies, Oh for sure, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Tyler was great in game. You know what

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Speaker 4: It's crazy that the Lakers had a chance and we

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Speaker 4: offered them fucking three years and now with a nigga

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Speaker 4: that we can't. We're offering the job to other people

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Speaker 4: prior or talking about the job that people getting the job.

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Speaker 3: Probably even firing this motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: Bro, You feel what I'm saying, Like, come on, bro,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he could have done anything with this,

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Speaker 2: But there's a world where Tyler was coaching DeMar DeRozan

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Speaker 3: I would like to live in that world. But now

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Speaker 3: we are in the projects. You feel me when the

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Speaker 4: I think the Clippers are good like But like Tyler said,

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Speaker 4: saw what what fucking what's your boy name?

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Speaker 3: John?

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Speaker 3: You said? You said what John Moran? He forgot job's name? Right?

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Speaker 4: We saw what y'all did last year's and putting the

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Speaker 2: Golly, I think Tuesday, I'm so excited for the Calves

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Speaker 3: I don't know what do you? How do you guys

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Speaker 1: You know, the Calves are We've talked before about having

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Speaker 3: I want the Nets to pull it out.

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Speaker 4: For me to say they will win the East and

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Speaker 4: they don't even make the motherfucker playoffs. I can't take

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Speaker 4: that type of alg you feel me, But I think

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Speaker 4: You think you know what I'm saying, Like you said,

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, So that that East.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it really is gonna be from the second

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Speaker 2: first round, you look at we've got sixers raptors with

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Speaker 3: Did you see the Doc Rivers presser tonight? That much

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Speaker 1: Would not have talked to me like that, Not Doc

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Speaker 3: Motherfucker? Do you understand how coach? You were good?

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Speaker 1: Right? We have seen your resume. Motherfucker you would have

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Speaker 3: I promise you. He had the nerve to say.

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Speaker 3: Understand who are you talking to right now? Bro? I

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Speaker 1: I have never I have never been one to give

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Speaker 2: He did also he did also challenge him and he

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Speaker 2: Doc was saying was our lineup is entirely reactive to

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Speaker 3: Famously, right, it's like the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Lakers in winning time, they're like everyone

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Speaker 2: We should just make sure we're doing what everyone else

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Speaker 3: And all I saw.

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Speaker 2: Was Sixers fans and writers responding to it, going, this

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Speaker 3: True, which is what the which is what the writer

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Speaker 2: He was like, well, as of five games ago, that

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Speaker 4: You might be coaching the Lakers next year, you know

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 4: Don't believe in the Sixers at all. No, you need

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Speaker 1: They're a better coach team, They're a team, They're a

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Speaker 3: Hell, now there's things I believe in the six ers about.

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Speaker 3: I believe that Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 2: and I believe that he is still awake at twelve

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Speaker 3: The playoffs, Like I have faith that they will do that,

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Speaker 2: It will be they'll be up three to Oho and

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Speaker 2: Like it'll it'll be something crazy, like I think this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and fucking Matist can't play games three and

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Speaker 1: four in Toronto because he's unvaccinated, which is which is

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Speaker 1: funny as hell, because that's the that's why Hardened dipped,

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Speaker 1: right he did, because you know, Kyrie was a vaccinated

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I'm telling you, I would not be shot.

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Speaker 2: And old Jimothy Harden and h Glenn Rivers maybe a

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Speaker 2: little freaksh I mean, kid, this could be that could

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Speaker 2: be the This could be the Jenkins and Jones.

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Speaker 3: Team of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It could enjoy talking about the most playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I just want something.

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Speaker 1: I just want some end of season spicy comments like

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Speaker 1: we got last year. Like I wouldn't be throwing Harden

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Speaker 1: he's not good anymore. The keeping Doc if they don't.

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Speaker 1: I think Harden doesn't like Doc. And that's so.

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Speaker 3: He's already gone. He's already gone. You think hard. I

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Speaker 2: Girls text messages between Harden and Maury about Doc.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I just don't feel like

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Speaker 3: he appreciates me. Just shut.

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Speaker 2: I just cares about me, like you just you should

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Speaker 2: have heard he was talking to me here practice yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Did you see what he said to the media about me.

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Speaker 2: Bucks Bulls another series I'm super excited for. I think

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Speaker 2: you know, we're all high on the Bucks for sure,

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Speaker 2: but even the first round East Series it's exciting. We

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Speaker 2: talked about what the ones and the twos could look

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Speaker 2: like versus the playings. But say the favorites win, or

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Speaker 2: say the Raptors beat the Sixers, heats the Heat, Celtics,

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited about that ship bro a Celtics Bucks

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Speaker 3: That's delicious.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are going to beat the ship

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Speaker 3: I think that goes five.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we were so and we were so high

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Speaker 3: What the difference of season makes, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: The best team in the league, but it brought us

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Speaker 4: Bucks right now. Gee, they got the best squad. To me,

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Speaker 4: I just don't see anybody with getting in trouble coming

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Speaker 3: But that's why I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't I don't know if I don't see

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Speaker 2: anyone giving them trouble, But that's what I mean. They've

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Speaker 2: had some incredible games against the other top teams in

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Speaker 2: being in Chicago. I love them being you know, it's

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Speaker 2: the Bulls have the kind of like the way the

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Speaker 2: it's just so much fun to have that kind of

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Speaker 3: I feel the same way about the United Is it

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Speaker 3: still the United Center?

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Speaker 2: Is it the fucking crypto dot Com Center?

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Speaker 3: Thank god?

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Speaker 4: I think we said the Bulls is gonna be six two.

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Speaker 4: They shout out, you know, it was killing you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew the regression to the mean was gonna

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Speaker 1: Ship. That was the point earlier this season. I was like,

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Speaker 3: Let's look at the West.

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Speaker 2: John just mentioned, you know, it's really interesting, the Heat

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Speaker 4: Know, he don't have a chance. Bro that he don't

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Suns were gonna fall off this the West,

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Speaker 2: I'll be very excited to I would love to see

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Speaker 3: Is gonna go crazy, though? I think is he gonna

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Speaker 4: He got that taste, you know, he got that experience,

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Speaker 4: he alway had a solid playoffs. I think it's I

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Speaker 2: Going down to the bottom of the first rounders, MAVs

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Speaker 3: Did you see the Luca injury today?

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Speaker 2: Man. Either the West playoffs need Luca healthy. We need

440
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 2: to be able to all collectively laugh at fucking Rudy

441
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 2: Gobert in the first round of the playoffs and count.

442
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Speaker 3: Go Beart switches on Lu Please give us those.

443
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 2: And I need a tracker for Donovan Mitchell passes to

444
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert per game.

445
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: I need a little counter in the corner.

446
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 1: Did you see that stat that said, like, you know,

447
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: he averages like three point two turnovers a game and

448
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,959
Speaker 1: two point six passes to Gobert a game, So he

449
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:38,360
Speaker 1: passes to the other team more than he passes to Gobert. Hey,

450
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 1: that motherfuckers the Rodney Dangerfield of the NBA. Bro no

451
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Speaker 1: respect man, not even from your own fucking teammates.

452
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Speaker 4: Man, Does anybody rely on a player more than the

453
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Speaker 4: Mavericks rely on Luca?

454
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Speaker 3: Like that's you know, that's the one guy.

455
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Speaker 4: Like I think maybe, like you know, Joker in Denver,

456
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 4: what he's been doing has been insane. He has nobody there,

457
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think, like dog, you know, if

458
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Speaker 4: Luca is in one hundred percent.

459
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Speaker 3: That is a rat for MG the way.

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Speaker 4: See the playoffs, bro, we saw you know last year,

461
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Speaker 4: I must they said, how must they rolled that.

462
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Speaker 3: Man in the first round. You know, if you ever

463
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Speaker 3: listen to an interview with.

464
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Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, he talks about Luca differently than you will

465
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Speaker 2: ever hear an.

466
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Speaker 3: Owner talk about a player.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, He's just he's Yes, they

468
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Speaker 2: are definitely.

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Speaker 3: More dependent on him. Warriors Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: You guys just sounds like don't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: uh uh confidence in the Warriors. Turner, I'm expecting a

472
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Speaker 2: Warriors flip at some point. You think it's too You

473
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Speaker 2: think they ran out of time for that John that

474
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Speaker 2: needed to happen a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, they didn't dealing with injuries coming into the playoffs,

477
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Speaker 4: not playing. But we just saw Clay, you know, put

478
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Speaker 4: up forty. He looks, he looks solid, you know what

479
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Speaker 4: I mean. But I just don't I just don't see

480
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Speaker 4: it this year, you know what I mean, It's been

481
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Speaker 4: a totally different second half of the season. I just

482
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Speaker 4: don't see it. These last few weeks been rough. So

483
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Speaker 4: you think the Nuggets get my him I think I

484
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Speaker 4: think the Nugget might get him out. You know, I'm saying,

485
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Speaker 4: think the Nuggas have a chance, they have a chance

486
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Speaker 4: what he's doing. Sure, it's fucking sane. So like, I

487
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Speaker 4: think they have a chance for so.

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Speaker 1: So Son's coming but got we got word that Michael

489
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Speaker 1: Porter and Murray aren't coming back. So I mean, I

490
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Speaker 1: think would be a whole different series with those two.

491
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Speaker 1: You know, I would be lean leaning towards Denver too, But.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, there's.

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Speaker 1: I still feel like, you know, fucking you know, Draymond,

494
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Speaker 1: Clay and Steph are gonna maybe figure this shit out,

495
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, maybe go back to the

496
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Speaker 1: to the trio of old and you know, maybe maybe

497
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll they'll advance maybe to the Western Conference Finals

498
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Speaker 1: if they if they do, get that ship clicking. But

499
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Speaker 1: I don't see HM getting past Phoenix either way.

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Speaker 2: We just got word from Jackson. This is not a

501
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Speaker 2: surprise to anyone, but Frank Vogel has coached. According to WOJ,

502
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Speaker 2: Frank Vogel's coach his final game for the Lakers, decision

503
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: that's expected to be shared with him as soon as Monday.

504
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Speaker 3: I think he knows wog Damn Lakers search.

505
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: Expected to be lengthy and expansive, with no clear initial

506
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: front runner. I feel like that's directly them just trying

507
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: to tell wo is like, tell everyone we're not gonna

508
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Speaker 2: hire Doc Rivers.

509
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Speaker 1: Like it's gonna I have no idea who the fuck

510
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: coaches the Lakers next, I don't. I mean coaching Broun,

511
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Speaker 1: you know, and coaching Bron was never that appealing because

512
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Speaker 1: you knew you were always at his mercy in regards

513
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Speaker 1: to your job security. But coaching this Bron was kind

514
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Speaker 1: of you know what I mean, one or two more

515
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Speaker 1: peak seasons laughed at the most, like, I don't know,

516
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough sell man.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

518
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Speaker 2: Hmmm. I'm trying to even I'm struggling to even come

519
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Speaker 2: up with a name that I would be excited to.

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Speaker 1: Fucking fucking Twitter, Twitter, Lakers, Twitter did their Lakers Twitter

521
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Speaker 1: shit today where they said they were they were talks

522
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Speaker 1: with Nick Nurse.

523
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Speaker 3: No the fuck there weren't.

524
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Speaker 1: No the fuck that Nick Nurse could fuck around and

525
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Speaker 1: coach the Raptors for twenty thirty Nick Nurse.

526
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Speaker 2: Nick Nurse is not gonna miss his statue unveiling in

527
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Speaker 2: twenty years in Toronto to fucking get fired after one

528
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Speaker 2: year with the Lake.

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Speaker 4: They were talking about Mike Brown and like Kurt Rambis

530
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Speaker 4: and shit, I think Kurt Rambis has forty fucking games

531
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Speaker 4: under him and he's gonna coach bron Yeah right, you

532
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Mike Brown, we already saw how

533
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 4: that went.

534
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Speaker 3: Brown, Mike as I like to call motherfucking Brown Brown.

535
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Speaker 2: So we've got the Sons coming out of the West.

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Speaker 2: Is your consensus, Tyler? You agree with that?

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm gonna be boring chunk guy.

538
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: You know, finals repeat. I think in the West it

539
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: makes sense. I mean, to be honest with you.

540
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Speaker 2: My only just like gut feeling about them not coming

541
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Speaker 2: is I am just.

542
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Speaker 3: One of those sports writers who is.

543
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: Like cynical enough to believe that like history repeats itself

544
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: and things are boring, Like you know what I mean.

545
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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I could just see someone tweaking.

546
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not I shouldn't talk about injuries

547
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: or whatever. I could just see it not working out,

548
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? But I would love it.

549
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: I I've loved all of the I love that their

550
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: new tradition is dancing before games, not giving a fuck

551
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: about their pregame warm up, like I love the energy.

552
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'd be rooting for Chris Paul for sure,

553
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: especially since the Lakers aren't playing, and I don't have

554
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: to worry about him not checking any players that I'm

555
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: a fan of. So yeah, I mean I got yeah

556
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: those sons. So then on the East, do all three

557
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: of us have the Bucks coming out?

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00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

559
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: Year, ain't no use in trying to making up some.

560
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Speaker 2: Shit, No, for sure, I'm I just I think the

561
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Speaker 2: East playoffs are going to be great. I think it's

562
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Speaker 2: one of those It's one of those crazy things about

563
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: basketball where in hindsight, everything like the narrative always looks

564
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: so smooth, right, and you forget about those moments, like

565
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: watching Bulls games growing up. You forget how close they

566
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: were to losing some of those games. You forget about

567
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: like the Bucks felt so last year, them winning fields

568
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: felt so inevitable. We talked about it throughout this year.

569
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: It feels inevitable that this might be their era and

570
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: they were, that they were one half a fucking inch

571
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: of Kevin Durant shoe away from.

572
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Speaker 4: And Kevin durant by himself too that series as well.

573
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Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know, so so that that's the East

574
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Speaker 2: to me, I just think the energy is gonna be incredible.

575
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

576
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: I would lean to the Bucks too, but we'll see

577
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Speaker 2: what happens.

578
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: Man, it's gonna be y'all think.

579
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Speaker 4: Do y'all think the Suns have a more of a

580
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: chance to win or less than last year?

581
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they will win the championship.

582
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Speaker 4: I think they have less of a chance of winning

583
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: and they're a better team.

584
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: Yes, we thought you were gonna win that series last year.

585
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's just wild how basketball works,

586
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, where you can be that

587
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: much better and still like you like, it depends on

588
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 4: who's playing, you know what I'm saying, Like just how

589
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 4: the Bucks look and how they did, how that team operates,

590
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: where everybody knows exactly what they need to do.

591
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Speaker 3: I just don't.

592
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 4: And then Giannis and just having Gianni is the best

593
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Speaker 4: player in basketball in my opinion, you feel me like,

594
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: what are you.

595
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Speaker 3: Gonna do that year?

596
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: His improvement this year in the gates and entire teams

597
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 2: and everybody else, correct.

598
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: You know, what I'm saying that regards to get Devin

599
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: Booker to turn into you know, whoever the fuck? You

600
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean, And it's just like, what are

601
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: you gonna do with Giannis?

602
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: Giannis is still there? You know what I mean? Like,

603
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: I just don't see nobody doing shit with him.

604
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: For every playoffs he's come back since he's been in

605
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: the league, and he has added an element of his

606
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: game to overcome what the opposing defense was doing to

607
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: him the previous playoffs, you know, and we've seen that

608
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: the whole year at his comfort level, shooting mid range

609
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: and pulling up and.

610
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 4: Lost that hiccup in his shot, that motherfucker looking pure

611
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 4: off the dribble.

612
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Speaker 1: Like all right, let's go Playney from money from the

613
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: line to the hacks won't save you anymore.

614
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Speaker 4: Like I think I think that last there was a

615
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: Game six. I think that Game six changed shit.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 4: What I mean when he was dealing with that pressure.

618
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Speaker 4: Doesn't miss a free throw? What the fuck else pressure

619
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: you need? You know what I'm saying. That's that'll calm you.

620
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: You know you s up to the line, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Come on, Jackson, is the thing that

622
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 4: we're doing this week been announced.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about that? Uh, No, it hasn't been paper.

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Speaker 2: I just give a note to Jenkins and Jones fans,

625
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: our usual midweek episode will not be appearing in your

626
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: podcast feed uh for the playing week, but we will

627
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: be doing something else that I think you'll be excited about.

628
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: So stay tuned to this space for news about an

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: upcoming bonanza.

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Speaker 3: I don't know more basketball talk coming.

631
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Speaker 2: Then we'll have another podcast out than the pot of

632
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: we be back next week. But before we get out

633
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: of here, uh, we do just have to talk. We

634
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: have to talk music for a couple of minutes. And

635
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this. I was locked in, first

636
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: of all, to start twenty years ago. I thought I

637
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: was locked into a month straight of doing nothing but

638
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: listening to then Events Staple album, and all of a sudden,

639
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: John just randomly tweeted about the fucking smashing, smashing Pumpkins,

640
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: who I loved, loved back in the day, and I

641
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: don't think I have thought about in.

642
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Like two or three years.

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Speaker 4: That's what's so weird is they were so fucked locking

644
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Speaker 4: good and they like dude, tonight tonight tonight in fucking

645
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy nine. Those were like, I mean, like to me,

646
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: like they crossed over in the same way that like

647
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: teen Spirit did. We're like I could put aside my

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00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: not listening to white music to listen to that white

649
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: music because that shit was fire and was undeniable, you

650
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So like I'm listening tonight tonight,

651
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: and like you said, when them drums feed.

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Speaker 3: Up, I'm literally emotional, bro, I'm singing up to the ceiling,

653
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: Like it just it's such a good song and we

655
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Speaker 4: never talk about that. We never talk about it, and

656
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: they had some fucking slabs.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's it's it's a beautiful song, and it

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00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: it makes me. It always made me emotional, even as

659
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: a kid when I heard it. Right, Yeah, that video

660
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: didn't heart either.

661
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: Man.

662
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: That video was like perfect fucking video and her all

663
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: time video, like that video one MTV video of the year.

664
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: What I vividly remember that shit back when that shit

665
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: was a big deal. When getting that moon Man was

666
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, you were certified when you want that motherfuckering

667
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: that video, want that shit. Yeah, but yeah, it's this

668
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: a beautiful fucking song.

669
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: You know.

670
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I was huge on that Melancholy Album'm gonna tell you

671
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: how I got hit to it. Shouts to all the

672
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: art teachers out there who let their kids play music

673
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: while they're working. Because I was in the art class

674
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: and a kid I was classmates with was playing that album.

675
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is fucking amazing,

676
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: and I asked him if I could borrow, and then

677
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: let me borrow, and I dubbed it. You know, for

678
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: all the people under thirty years old don't know what

679
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: that means. I had a CD player and a fucking

680
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: cassette deck on the same stereo, and yeah, yeah, and

681
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I played the fucking CD and I recorded on a

682
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: cassente and I had that album on cassette off of that,

683
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: and I love that fucking Melancholy and then Infinite Sadinus album.

684
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Tonight's Night is a beautiful song because it's like the

685
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: thing about that song is that Tomorrow looms over that

686
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: song in kind of a Melancholi way, right where it's

687
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: like to enjoy the moment you're in now, enjoy tonight

688
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: because tomorrow isn't gonna be as good, you know what

689
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean. And then when you go back to that,

690
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: when you listen to it now as an adult, and

691
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: you know when you first heard it as a kid,

692
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: you were.

693
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, those motherfuckers were right. You know what I'm saying.

694
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: Shit, shit is lots of time. Shit does not getting

695
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: better as you get older at all or what have you.

696
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's a beautiful fucking song. It's a beautiful album, man,

697
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: And and it sucks that Billy Corgan is like an

698
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: all right shithead now because he was like the he

699
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: was like the quinn essentially not true dog. He's him

700
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: and Alex Jones, a BFS bro. But yeah, he was

701
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: like he was like the ultimate nineties dude, right Like

702
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: he was the fucking the front man of a fucking

703
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: you could say, a Mount Rushmore nineties rock group.

704
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: Right like.

705
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: He was fucking in a love triangle with Courtney Love

706
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and Kurt Cobain, you know where they were where him

707
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and Kurt were competing for Courtney Love's affection. He was

708
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: fucking best friends with Dennis Rodman. That motherfucker was nineties

709
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: as hell. He was like a definitive nineties guy, you

710
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I hate that he's a

711
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: fucking dickhead now. But you know, tonight, tonight and now

712
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: look at him tomorrow.

713
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: You know, I guess.

714
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: The future that like locks in perfectly with my feeling

715
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: about it. Smashing Pumpkins was like maybe the last.

716
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: Thing that my dad and I both liked.

717
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Like music was always like a It was like, even

718
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: when he was like living with us and we still

719
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: had like a relationship or whatever, music was always a

720
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: big fight because he was a huge He was hugely

721
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: into music, and so he would like he'd hear me

722
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: listening to Oasis and he'd like bust into my fucking

723
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: room and be like, this is the Beatles song they

724
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: stole that chord progression from.

725
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like this is this is he?

726
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: But that shitly was He was like you know, he

727
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: was just he, and he knew all the history of everything.

728
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: He was like enormously into guitar players and all this

729
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: other shit. And I remember he bought me that album.

730
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: Like we were listening to the we listened to I

731
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: think we heard nineteen seventy nine on K Rock, which

732
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: was a big rock the alternative station out here, and

733
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: we I was like listening to it and he was

734
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: looking at me like, oh shit, I he's listening to

735
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: something that I approved, and he bought me. It was

736
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: a double album, Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness. It was

737
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: a double album which I had at the time. I

738
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 2: didn't know that was it that existed, like like two

739
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: CDs and one pack. Was like unbelievable, And yeah, exactly

740
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: as you described it, Like they're the number one band

741
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: for me of all time for making me feel like

742
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cry with songs where I could not tell

743
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: you what the lyrics are like half the time, it's

744
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: just the sentiment of the music and like the phrasing

745
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: of the lyrics and then like when you do catch

746
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: a line, it'll be like God is empty, just like me.

747
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: But Billy Corgan was like, but put.

748
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: Some put the most beautiful viola line ever underneath that shit.

749
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: And I love I love Billy Corgan's voice because it's

750
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: like he goes from like Angel to like Bobcat gold

751
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: with and like like he'll be like be with me,

752
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: be with me now. It's like I love that shitty right,

753
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: like it's one of one voice man, And like I said,

754
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I just hate the that is now that he is

755
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: not because I love that dude.

756
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 4: Back in the day, bro, I was, I was holding

757
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: son me, like, listen to the song and repeat and

758
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: that that I think it was the Saturday morning. It

759
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: was a Friday when I like had like the whole

760
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: universal line and I had.

761
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: The Friday night christ right.

762
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: But I'm I'm I'm holding Sony and it's like believe

763
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: in me, believe in you, and I just like fucking.

764
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's just sock in the face, Like,

765
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: and why are those drums so good? Why is the

766
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: drum my favorite drum song ever? Why does bro god dear?

767
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, what did what in these I've never had

768
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: drums like make me feel the way the drums in

769
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: that song do. Where it like when it speeds up,

770
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: it literally my heart skips a beat.

771
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: Right, It's weird. It sounds so corny, but it it's

772
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 3: true us where.

773
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: Geez, It's such a beautiful song, such a beautiful song.

774
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Shouts Cu Cub of the Locke, followed by Galapago's that's

775
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: like my favorite fucking you know sequence on the whole album,

776
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: And it's beautiful fucking music.

777
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: Tyler.

778
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: I've always appreciated your musical taste because I feel like

779
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 2: you grew up in Long Beach, even though you didn't

780
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: grow up in Long Beach and then you listen, you

781
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: really listened to every like to every there. I remember

782
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: when we were first starting to get to know each

783
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: other and you mentioned you were a big sublime family.

784
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, you're a big sublime family. You're like,

785
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: look at my look at the location on my Twitter bio.

786
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly crazy.

787
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: But that's like, and you know, if you if you

788
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: read anything, Bradley Nola Ever said like, that's just that's

789
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: what the musical you know, zeitkists and Long Beach always

790
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: was because so many different kinds of people. It's like

791
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: the white kids went to funk concerts with the og

792
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, with like George Clinton would

793
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: just play.

794
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: At the park or whatever like so it just had

795
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: that mix.

796
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: I always appreciated that that it was like you were

797
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: a black kid in Richmond listening to spashing pumpkins in

798
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: the fucking art classic.

799
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: I love that.

800
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: And the thing is like it kind of goes back

801
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: to how how fucking influential MTV was, you know what

802
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean? And I guess the Internet has replaced that,

803
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: but it was different back then, bro, Like.

804
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Has it replaced it?

805
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: You know?

806
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: Someone just put up a TRL top ten or whatever,

807
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: and it was like, look at how everyone used to

808
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: listen to so many different kinds of music, and it

809
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: was like across so many different cultures, but every sixteen

810
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: year old heard the thirty minutes of music everywhere, you

811
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

812
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: Don't have that anymore?

813
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: Like like do you, I mean, do you remember how

814
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: good it would feel when you would like you would

815
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: fall asleep to MTV and then you would hear a

816
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: song that you never heard before that just woke you

817
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: up your outra sleep, Like what the fuck is this?

818
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And then you you lock

819
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: in You're like, oh my god, this song is fucking amazing.

820
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if if kids are experiencing that anymore,

821
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: but damn sure not with MTV with fucking that ridiculousness

822
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: marathon shit that.

823
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: They got going on.

824
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: But is that the only show that they still have

825
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: six hours a day?

826
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember like listening like not a surf?

827
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Was it?

828
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Not a surf? Popular?

829
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: Like TV had me listening to like the weirdest shit

830
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying, But like, man.

831
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: That was I remember.

832
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: I remember the moment I heard teen spirit I remember

833
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: that moment, you know what I mean.

834
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: I remember like looking at this, like what the I

835
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: never felt that feeling before.

836
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: It was the first time I felt that feeling listening

837
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: to music when that song came on in MTV.

838
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: So you had MTV as like the big like the

839
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: end of the Factory, like the biggest thing you could do.

840
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: But then the other thing that was amazing growing up

841
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: in southern California is we had Power one oh six

842
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: for rap, and then we had K Rock for white

843
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: person music, and so you would get just on a

844
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: random Friday, on either one of those, you would hear

845
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: something that only you were hearing in Southern California, and

846
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: a month later it would be all over fucking MTV.

847
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: But like K they'd have no doubt, like they're like,

848
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: here's a tape someone just handed us, Like this, when's

849
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: the funny you can really sing?

850
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: You know, like but you know it's like Weezering and

851
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: No Doubt and Sublime.

852
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: In those bands, you'd hear way before everyone else, and

853
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: then all of the West Coast rappers would just bring

854
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: shit to Power one of six when they finished it,

855
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: like here, throw this up, you know what I mean,

856
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Like like whatever else, he just Ice Cube or Snoop

857
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: would literally just be on Big Boy in the morning,

858
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: like you're driving to school and they're just like, hey,

859
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: I have something new next week. I'm gonna bring it

860
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: back like it just it was so special. And now

861
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: you know everyone has Apple Music and Spotify. It's like

862
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: you get what you get, you get what the algorithm

863
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: tells you.

864
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: You're fucking like, I still think I find more music

865
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: because of these new apps and shit though, you know

866
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I think my taste has actually

867
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: expanded because I don't have a radio telling me, you know,

868
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: what's cool and what isn't, you know what I mean,

869
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: Like a lot of the shit I'll fuck with, you know,

870
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 4: like I don't know about I think. I think even

871
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 4: in the South, like in the South, like we would

872
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: have shit like it was like the country shit that

873
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: we would hear that like six weeks three months before

874
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, anybody else fucked with it,

875
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? That's really reasonable. And it

876
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: wasn't like ice Cube though and fucking Snoop doing, you

877
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

878
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: It was it was more underground. The radio model made.

879
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: More sense if you lived in New York or California,

880
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: southern California than if you lived in the other ninety

881
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: eight percent of the country. For yeah, for fucking shirt,

882
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: So good for everyone who doesn't live in those places.

883
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: I guess that we get shit. Did you did you

884
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 3: ever catch on shit like twenty five lighters and shit?

885
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Was that?

886
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: Did that? Did that catch on on the West Coast? Yeah? Okay, okay,

887
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: I don't.

888
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, like if I'm talking, remember we were

889
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: talking about like some some Texas rappers shit and then

890
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: like it never caught made it to the West Coast.

891
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: But it was huge as fucking the South, like because

892
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: everything was so regional at that time, like Power one

893
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: of Six was for sure, like they would apologetically play

894
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: rap music from other areas, you know what I mean.

895
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: But it was like we got enough shit out here.

896
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: And that's why I always tell you guys, like I

897
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: didn't understand. So I was much older because I never

898
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: read like magazine about music or anything. I didn't understand

899
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: until I was like in my mid twenties that fucking

900
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: Dad's Dillinger was less famous than Ice.

901
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: Cube, you know what I mean.

902
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: It's just like Corrupt and DJ Quick. It is like

903
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: those They were on the radio as much as any rapper.

904
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: From outside of southern California would be on the radio.

905
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, I was talking about Tela. I think it

906
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: was Teela. We was talking about Tela, that motherfucker. You

907
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He was I'm so tired of

908
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: like that shit was.

909
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you know what I'm.

910
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: Saying, Like, no, that shit went crazy like he was

911
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: a superstar to me, you know what I'm saying, being

912
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: a country but like you know, and he never made

913
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: it to west probably didn't make it to the to

914
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 4: the East coast either. It's just regional. He had that

915
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: pocket where you know what I'm saying.

916
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: We just thought he was it. You feel me?

917
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I miss regionalism, and especially in RAP I think that.

918
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: You know, of course, there's a lot of whack shit

919
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: that came with regionalism. There was you know, media bias

920
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: where you know, you weren't going to see you know,

921
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: ugk On on the cover of the Source or whatever

922
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: have you, or you know, you weren't going to see

923
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: a fucking you know, eight bowling the MJG video on MTV,

924
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it was a really

925
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: diversified sound back when there was regionalism, you know what

926
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, like like fucking like you know, New York

927
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: had the had the Chris Snares, you know what I mean,

928
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Fucking down South at the eight oh eights, you know,

929
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: West Coast have had the high pitched since you know,

930
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: fucking Midwest had the rapid flow.

931
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: It was, it was you know, it was a distinct sound.

932
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: It was a diverse soundscape.

933
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, I'm glad that you know,

934
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: people have acknowledged other regions that that other reasons have

935
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: gotten their respect. But it feels like it feels like

936
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: now it's the regionalism that's kind of the lack of

937
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: regionalism has diluted the sound of the game.

938
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: Like you think about the West Coast music is still

939
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: West Coast music though, like you hear like drill artists

940
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: in like New York, which that's Chicago music. You feel

941
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: me like that's that's you know, that's weird, Like you

942
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like Ashap was pulling from you know,

943
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: Houston and three six and all them. You feel me,

944
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: But like to me, like the West Coast artists, like

945
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: when I listened to like you know, even just dropped

946
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: the shits as music musically like elevated as it is,

947
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: it's still a very West Coast album.

948
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying.

949
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, but I feel like that was a bit

950
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: of a renaissance in like the last ten years of

951
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: the West Coast, going back to the West Coast of sound,

952
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like when.

953
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: Mike, when Kendricks make it more.

954
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, West Coast shit, Yeah,

955
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: speak Boy and Autumn.

956
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: Because I do think the the apps and the streaming

957
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: platforms removed the regionalism, but also the access to technology

958
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: to make beats and to do your own production and

959
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: stuff remove that too. And I know Chris Krack talked

960
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: to us about that. We've talked to I've interviewed rappers

961
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: and Long Beach we talked about that. It's like my

962
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Space did more to change music, maybe even than like

963
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Apple or Spotify did, just because it was like you

964
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: could fool around and do something and just immediately put

965
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: it out, which just it didn't exist like before.

966
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: Like if you were in LA and.

967
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: You someone you knew had pissed off someone that big

968
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: Boy knew you didn't exist.

969
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: You were never going to get on the radio if

970
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: he didn't fuck with you, you know what I mean.

971
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: So it removed that.

972
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: But also everyone having the same production tools like the

973
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: West Coast the g funk sound, that high sense sound

974
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: that came out of the technology that they had available

975
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: to them, you know what I mean. And now everyone

976
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: has access to all the same technology, so there's no

977
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: longer that like lineage.

978
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: Of well this is what I heard.

979
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: And my grandparents played in a funk band and their

980
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: parents were raised in the South, so we had, you know,

981
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: because you could literally in Long Beach trace music back

982
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: to this church, this black church by Polly and all that.

983
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: The family who did the music came from this place

984
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: in Alabama, like during the Great Migration, you know, Like

985
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: it's just not that way anymore now, you know. Like

986
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: but all the West Coast rapper, at least the ones

987
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: that came out of Long Beach, they all grew up

988
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: on music in the church, like Snoop Nate dog and

989
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: Nate Dogg was like he's just a choir boy, you

990
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: know what it like literally.

991
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: And it's just now it's just it's good.

992
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 4: I think that's most because the church is such a

993
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: black experience, you know what I mean. Yeah, but I

994
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: mean it's just probably a little different as far as

995
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: a sound, you know what I mean.

996
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: But it's good that.

997
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Everyone has access to the technology and stuff. But I'm

998
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 2: with Tyler, I missed the regionalism and shit a little

999
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: bit too. But let's talk about the Vince album. I

1000
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: know we all wanted to talk about that. John, you

1001
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: had the best description I've heard.

1002
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: Anyone give about the album with your museum analogy.

1003
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it just it feels like something I need

1004
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: to experience in that space. Like it feels like it

1005
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 4: should be an immersive experience, you know, like I feel

1006
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: like I'm walking through his world or his brain while

1007
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: listening to the album, you know, like it's it's it

1008
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: seems extremely you know, personal, and how he describes things,

1009
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: it becomes you start seeing it rather than hearing it,

1010
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1011
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: So it made sense.

1012
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, like that Van Go joint, we need

1013
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: an immersive experience. And like you said, they knew that too,

1014
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: because this is really not a tour album. You know,

1015
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: you could you could use His last two albums have

1016
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 4: been so emotional. You can see some kind of struggling

1017
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: with certain things, you know, you know, very personal. But

1018
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 4: I mean it's beautiful music. And we had talked about

1019
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: how he had kind of lost us prior, but I

1020
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: was so confident in this album based upon what he

1021
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: did with the one prior. I'm like, this is just

1022
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 4: gonna be We all knew this was just gonna be

1023
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: another step into that in that direction.

1024
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: And he really he's really found his sound man. Like

1025
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: it is.

1026
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: He always had the lyrical ship, but the music didn't

1027
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: quite match up to me or didn't appeal to me.

1028
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: You always always do be correct. But now he's like

1029
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: tapped into music. It's just beautiful and a juxtaposition and

1030
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: like truly beautiful music and these very raw lyrics.

1031
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: Its special, you know. So yeah, I would love to,

1032
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: you know, get high as.

1033
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: Fuck, pull up and have that immersive experience and you know,

1034
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: have a you know, be able to take a trip

1035
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: in you know, uh visually in Vince's mind.

1036
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1037
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: It listening to this album it makes me feel like,

1038
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's certain times where you're listening to

1039
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: artists and you're like, Okay, they found their pocket.

1040
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: You're like okay, you.

1041
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Know, this feels like the start of a second an

1042
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: act that is going to be you know, like historic,

1043
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Like it's like that, you know, listening to this album,

1044
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, Ramona Park broke my heart, you know, after

1045
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: it followed up Vince Stables, which is amazing too. It's

1046
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: like it gave me like the same feel when I

1047
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: heard like Pinata by Freddy Gibbs, like Okay, this thing

1048
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: Field bro. It's just like, Okay, this is a new

1049
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: lane that he's in, and this is his lane, you

1050
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's that type of feel. And

1051
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm someone I've been riding with Vince for shit ten

1052
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: twelve years, Like I was fucking with the back when

1053
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: he was you know, when I just knew him from.

1054
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: Odd Future Features and shit right, you know what I mean, and.

1055
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: Then the Earl and mac Miller you know what I'm

1056
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: s Yeah, yeah.

1057
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: And then and then Summertime six hit Summer of twenty fifteen,

1058
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and that shit stayed in rotation.

1059
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: I love that fucking album.

1060
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, like he lost me

1061
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: a bit with like Big Fish and you know FM,

1062
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: it felt like he was trying to trying to, you know,

1063
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: appeal to the masters. And I'm not at all knocking

1064
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: the man if that was the past he wanted to

1065
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: take on.

1066
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: His career, so be it.

1067
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: But I always felt like Vince is at his best

1068
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: being introspective, you know, welcoming us into his world now

1069
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: when he's trying to branch out and be a bigger

1070
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: start to the world, you know what I mean. And

1071
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: and and these two albums have just been so you know,

1072
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: he is just you know, immersing us in his world,

1073
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: and you know, immersing us in Long Beach, immersing us

1074
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: and how he grew up in Long Beach, and these

1075
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: two albums and and it's beautiful, and like I said,

1076
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: it feels like it's the start of a really remarkable

1077
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: second act in his career.

1078
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: For me, I co signed all of that.

1079
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: I am gonna be going back from listening to the

1080
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: Smashing Pumpkins for the last two nights to listening to

1081
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: Ramona Park Broke My Heart.

1082
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: Probably the next month to night tonight. That's all the

1083
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: time we got for the show tonight tonight. We will

1084
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: be back, Like I said, the pod will be back

1085
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: next Monday. But stay tuned.

1086
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: We're doing some other ship this week that we'll be

1087
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: telling you about. It'll be rolled out soon, so stay tuned.

1088
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: And see y'all soon, Play paper soon, Bye bye bye

1089
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: Two