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Speaker 1: I wanted to start with I just watched the Warriors

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Speaker 1: mad around draft time with football because so many guys

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Speaker 1: go toe to toe with Bama in a national championship

429
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Speaker 1: in an SEC for all the marbles. And this guy

430
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: kind of game winning touchdown on a team absolutely loaded

431
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 1: with NFL players, and he was a starter for them.

432
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: Tee Higgins, Mike Williams, Deshaun Watson. I mean, they had

433
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: so many players, I'll just find random players. I might

434
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: have said this on this podcast. I'm at Niners practice

435
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: and Ray Ray McLeod makes a pretty cool play and

436
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: practice I'm like, what school did Ray Ray McLeod go to?

437
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he went to Clemson five years ago. They

438
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: have so many random guys in the NFL. And Hunter

439
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: Renfro didn't just play for him, he started and was

440
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Speaker 1: highly productive and got drafted because he deserves to get

441
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: drafted now you would say most guys who were undersized,

442
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: like Julian Edelman is an outlier. Hunter Renfro is an outlier.

443
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Speaker 1: But Julian Edelman had to go to junior college and

444
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: then went to Toledo where he played quarterback. So when

445
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: he got drafted and they transitioned him to wide receiver,

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: that is a pretty incredible story. When you come from

447
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: Clemson and you had to walk off touchdown in the

448
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: National Championship against Alabama to beat Nick Saban, Like, I

449
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: don't quite view you the same as Edelman, little engine

450
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: that could, but your body type you kind of look like,

451
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: no way, this guy's gonna be able to play. And

452
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: then I've been watching them closely the last couple of years,

453
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: and obviously last year you got balls and I remember

454
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Speaker 1: talking to a buddy that was on the staff. He's like, well,

455
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: you do not understand about renfro is, how fastest feed is,

456
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Speaker 1: how quick he is, and obviously to be a great

457
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: slot receiver even in the day and age where you

458
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: know Brian Dowkins and John Lynch and Steve Attwater and

459
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott are not going to give you a CT

460
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: coming over the middle. No one's allowed to hit anyone

461
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: at the violence and veracity that you used to be

462
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: able to. Now there are still collisions. It's still a

463
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: violent game, but it's much safer now, but you still

464
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Speaker 1: have to be willing to go for the middle with

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Speaker 1: the big bodies, and he clearly is. And I just

466
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: love stories where most people when he was coming out,

467
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: even though he was coming from a top program, did

468
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: not think this guy was gonna be any good. And

469
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Speaker 1: now he signs a contract for basically eleven million dollars

470
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Speaker 1: a year, and it almost feels like a steal because

471
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Speaker 1: you got one of the best slot receivers at a position. Now,

472
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Speaker 1: when you get guys that are highly productive, they make

473
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Speaker 1: anywhere between fifteen and twenty five million dollars, So you're

474
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Speaker 1: almost getting this guy at a discount. And honestly, the

475
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Speaker 1: only reason you're probably getting them at this price is

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Speaker 1: because of where he was drafted. If he had been

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Speaker 1: a second round pick, his price per year probably goes

478
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Speaker 1: up two or three million dollars. Just a reality. But

479
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Speaker 1: you put thirty two million dollars in front hunter Renfro,

480
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Speaker 1: how is he supposed to turn it down? But he

481
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Speaker 1: does feel like the perfect, perfect slot wide receiver. For

482
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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels in the New England Patriot offense that's now

483
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Speaker 1: in Vegas. And last, but not least, uh I grew

484
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Speaker 1: up born and raised a Pack twelve Homer. I loved

485
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Speaker 1: watching you know, when I was a kid, I was

486
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Speaker 1: a huge U c l A fan, And in the

487
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: nineties U c l A was much better than USC.

488
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Speaker 1: And then what Pete Carroll turned that program into and

489
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Speaker 1: what Oregon has become the last several decades. And Mike Bellotti,

490
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: who was a longtime coach there where I grew up.

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Speaker 1: My dad was a UC Davis guy and always took

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Speaker 1: a lot of pride in U C. Davis coaches. And

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Speaker 1: Dan Hawkins who coached at Boise, and Chris Peterson and

494
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Speaker 1: coached at Washington. They were all Davis guys, and Blotti

495
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Speaker 1: was one of them as well, So I always followed

496
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: those three programs were kind of our claim to fame.

497
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: And then Jeff Tedford what he did with Cal and

498
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Speaker 1: we've clearly fallen off a map. The Pack twelve has

499
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Speaker 1: struggled for relevancy. Mario had a moment, Utah has had

500
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Speaker 1: a couple of moments. They've only made the playoffs one time,

501
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Speaker 1: in the college football Playoff existence and I was thinking

502
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: was the first year with Chris Peterson when he took Washington.

503
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Speaker 1: We have struggled and we we have been lapped. And

504
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Speaker 1: a huge reason why is nag Harris went to high

505
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: school right up the street from me. There is now

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at his rival high school who is down.

507
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: He's one of the top quarterbacks in the country who

508
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: is down to five schools. This guy again, the Bay

509
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Speaker 1: Area star quarterback. His five schools are all in the SEC.

510
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: A lot of our top players now gravitate towards the SEC.

511
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Speaker 1: And I'd be a hypocrite if I blame them because

512
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: when I watched college football on Saturdays, I tend to

513
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Speaker 1: watch SEC games. Now I tend to watch Georgia obviously,

514
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Speaker 1: Bama l s U Ole, Miss now with Lane obviously, Jimbo,

515
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: with Texas a m Their league feels the biggest, it

516
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: feels the most important that in the Big Ten, and

517
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Speaker 1: in moments Oklahoma and Texas, but Texas has been really shitty.

518
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Speaker 1: But the SEC is on a completely different level. For

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00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: a reason, they're the most interesting. And the reason they're

520
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: the most interesting they produced all most of the national

521
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: championship teams. They produce clearly all the NFL players. It

522
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Speaker 1: is cooler and the world has never been flatter. So

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Speaker 1: just because I live in California or Washington or Oregon,

524
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Speaker 1: I get the access to all their games and the

525
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Speaker 1: Pact waves falling off a map. And I think I

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Speaker 1: give Mario a lot of credit. And I don't blame

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Speaker 1: him for leaving. He went home, but he recruited at

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Speaker 1: Oregon like he was at an SEC school. And I

529
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's a good enough ex's nose coach,

530
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Speaker 1: but his passion and his willingness to go toe to

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Speaker 1: toe with all these big programs I admire. And on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: on Father's Day, there was this video that went viral

533
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Speaker 1: on my timeline and it was Lincoln Riley and he

534
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: had taken I think a lot of his team and

535
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of recruits to what used to be Staples

536
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: Center is now I think Crypto dot Com. And who knows,

537
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: maybe that thing could crash and it can be Staples

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Speaker 1: Center again. Well, probably wouldn't be Staples Center under new

539
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Staples even exist. And he took everybody to eat breakfast

540
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: or brunch or lunch on Center Court. And the one

541
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Speaker 1: thing to be good at USC and I would say

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00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: even just in the pact wal of in general, to

543
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: be to be excellent, you need to be two things.

544
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: And Pete had this and Jeff Tedford had this. Chip

545
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: had it kind, but Chip hated recruiting. Jeff Tedford loved

546
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Speaker 1: to recruit, Pete Carroll loved to recruit. Mario loves to recruit.

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00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: It does still it at Miami. You got to be

548
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: a recruiting junkie. It has to mean a lot to you.

549
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: You gotta take passion in it, and you've got to

550
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: be a great scheme guy. That's the only chance for

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00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: you to succeed, you know, in the SEC. If you're

552
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: just an elite recruiter. If Mario is just an elite

553
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: recruiter and you can get the top, top end talent

554
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Speaker 1: because he's in the A SEC, he might just be

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Speaker 1: good enough to ultimately get to a college football game.

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Speaker 1: Now that doesn't does that mean a college football playoff game?

557
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: Does that mean he's gonna win it all? No, because

558
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: you have to scheme at the highest level. But I

559
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get so much fucking talent that he's

560
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: just gonna get there. Look at hardball, Hardball is not

561
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a great scheme guy, but he recruited so well. They're

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Speaker 1: so tough, and they finally made a run this year.

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Speaker 1: Now they got curb stomped in the game, but they

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Speaker 1: got there. And I think Lincoln Riley, I think there's

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Speaker 1: some question marks because one thing he didn't do at

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma that he has to do at us See. If

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win a national championship, he doesn't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: to do if he's gonna win the conference because Willie

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00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: I view him, he's got to go through two programs

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Speaker 1: to win the conference. Utah who is never going to

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Speaker 1: recruit the caliber of player Lincoln Riley is gonna recruit,

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Speaker 1: but they never have. They can scheme and they can

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Speaker 1: play football as well as anybody given their talent. Now

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Speaker 1: in Oregon, I don't know if Dan Lanning is a

575
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Speaker 1: great coach or not. He's coming from Georgia. He'll be

576
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: able to recruit because Oregon always can. But Lincoln Riley,

577
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: like Chip Kelly, is gonna hang with Lincoln Riley. Zero chance.

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Speaker 1: Arizona State, which I think is a sleeping giant, is

579
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Speaker 1: in shambles. Arizona sucks. Colorado is awful, Oregon State is

580
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: just gonna be a talent deficit, even though they beat

581
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: him last year. But Clay Helton, listen, great guy looking back,

582
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: had absolutely no business being the head coach at USC.

583
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't think USC. I think they're gonna get

584
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: some preseason hype to make the playoffs. I don't think

585
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: that's necessarily possible. But I do believe that they can

586
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: become a power fast and has never been easier to

587
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: become power fast because you don't need to take for

588
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Speaker 1: three of your recruiting classes. You're taking transfers every single year.

589
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the best two players right now on USC's

590
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: roster is their quarterback transfer started last year at Oklahoma,

591
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: their star wide receiver transfer Pit bullet Nikoff winner. I

592
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: think he won the blind coffer. He was in the mix.

593
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Speaker 1: Like that's what you're gonna be able to take advantage of.

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Speaker 1: Like look at Nick Saban Jamison Williams. Where do they

595
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Speaker 1: get him Ohio State? You know? I mean, you can

596
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: take top players when you're a top program from other schools.

597
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: When you're at random schools, even if you're a power five,

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00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: you're kind of taking the spill over, right, Like this

599
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: guy couldn't play at Alabama, will take him. This guy

600
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: couldn't play at Ohio State, will take him. When you

601
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: get a guy that's transferring from Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan,

602
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: he could have played there. Maybe he just doesn't like it.

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00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Chim Kelly actually benefited this last year, had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of transfers on his team, kids from l A. Well,

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00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna get the pick of that letter? Now, Lincoln's

606
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: gonna pick before Chip does. So. I think the USC,

607
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: whether they lucked into it, they obviously paid for it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very, very difficult for this not to

609
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: be a borderline home run. Now for USC, for it

610
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: to be a home run, they're gonna have to win

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00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: a national championship. But I don't think it's inconceivable within

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00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: two years, given their conference and their road to get there,

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00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: they could be a playoff team. Now, once they get

614
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, they could be overwhelmed and Georgia, you know,

615
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: Bama A and m Ohio State could kick their ass.

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00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: Very very feasible. But I think it's gonna happen much faster,

617
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: and it makes sense that the game has changed. Here's

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00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: the other thing USC has going for it. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons Saban is so mad is because deep down

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Speaker 1: he knows his institution does not have the Texas oil money.

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Speaker 1: And now the Texas is coming in the SEC, and

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00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: I know they do suck, but they have the money

623
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Speaker 1: to buy all the players. And right now it's just

624
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: basically a free frall and it always kind of has been.

625
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: But no one was sending a million dollars on a player.

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00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: Even if you were getting a top player, you were

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00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: giving him a bag of cash. I'd heard stories the

628
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: last couple of years to the top you know flight recruits. Well,

629
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: now to get whoever, because it's legal, you gotta pay

630
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: the guys millions of dollars. SC is unlimited money, and

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00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: they have unlimited resources, no different Texas and Texas, A

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Speaker 1: and M. That is the biggest obstacle for some of

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Speaker 1: these programs in the SEC, like can l s U,

634
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: can Alabama, can Ole Miss. How are they going to

635
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: financially hang with the oil money and the SEC money.

636
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: And if Lincoln does this right, which I think he

637
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: knows he can because of the resources, they're not and

638
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna start getting them and they're gonna become cool again,

639
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: partly because he'll be able to pay. He's he was

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00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: able to recruit Oklahoma. Now, Oklahoma has always recruited well,

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Speaker 1: but he recruited really, really well the last couple of years.

642
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Speaker 1: So if he recruits at this level with the cash backing,

643
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I saw that clip of them eating

644
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: lunch with all the fathers and Father's Day and all

645
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: the top recruits, and I just went, there's a long

646
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: way away from Clay Helton. Okay, let's go Middlecoff mail

647
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: back at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those

648
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Speaker 1: d m s. Two f's firing those d ms? Your

649
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. Start with Alexander German

650
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Speaker 1: Bears fan here. I know you don't like Aberflus because

651
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: it's it's an offensive league and he's a defensive mind

652
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: and head coach. But the duo with fields and Matt

653
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Maggie an offensive mind and head coach, didn't work out

654
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: at all last season. So isn't it a good thing

655
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: that the Bears try a different strategy. They also have

656
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: a good offensive coordinator and Luke Getsy, who is coming

657
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: from a great Packers team, would love to hear your

658
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: take on that. Keep up the great work, greetings from

659
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: back Nang, Germany. Bear down. Well here's my issue. Let

660
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: say gets he is awesome, he's the next McVeigh or Shanahan. Well,

661
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: what happens you lose them? I'm with you, But just

662
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: because something doesn't work the previous go around, why would that,

663
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, force you to go the opposite way? Now,

664
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Speaker 1: Ryan Poles, I still can't believe that he said in

665
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: his opening press conference They're gonna own the division. It's like, bro,

666
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: the Packers have literally destroyed you from my entire adult life.

667
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: I thought that was bold. But my buddies that know him,

668
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: I'll think he's good at his job. I just I

669
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know about the Ebra fluce higher Again. I don't

670
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: know why I'm so judgmental on this one. I'm just out,

671
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm betting against it now. I'm not some I'm not

672
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: no Tredamas. I mean, I could be wrong. I'm not

673
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: right every time, but I think I got a pretty

674
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: good sense of this stuff, and I don't know. I

675
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: just don't also think they're good. So it could just

676
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: be a very difficult year. When you lose immediately, it's

677
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: hard to overcome it. Now, Ultimately, Justin Fields becomes Lamar Jackson,

678
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, like Justin Herbert star quarterback. You

679
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: guys will look fine, but you got a long way

680
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: to go, and I just don't think he has much

681
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: talent around. Their offensive line is horrendous, so just start

682
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: with that. When your offensive line is horrendous, it's hard

683
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: to function as a young quarterback, let alone one with

684
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Let's face it, their weapons aren't great, but you got Moody,

685
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: you got Commet who's solid. Running backs are okay, the

686
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Khalil kid not bad, but it's not exactly like Tyreek Kill,

687
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, and George Kittle are walking through that door.

688
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be very, very challenging. I

689
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a very rough year, and then

690
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to judge him the next couple of years,

691
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: probably in twenty and twenty four. I'm gonna giving him

692
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: somewhat of a pass this year because my expectations are low.

693
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna talk a lot of shit about

694
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: the Bears winning and losing games if they, you know,

695
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: go five and twelve, as I expect them to win

696
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: four or five games. That's my expectation and they kind

697
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: of set themselves up, kind of blew it up, make

698
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: some trades, which if they draft, well, it's the right move, right,

699
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: they didn't have a first round pick. Uh, they kind

700
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: of had to blow it up. They were in cap Hill.

701
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace was horrendous general manager, I mean not very

702
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: good at all. Right, Ryan Pace was pretty bad at

703
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: his job. Um, that's just just the reality of the

704
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: results of his drafting. And anytime your offensive line really sucks,

705
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: I think you're a terrible GM. With se Kwan's receiving

706
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: ability and his ability in space, could you see the

707
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: Giants trying to utilize him like a debo type role,

708
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: assuming that he's healthy healthy, I could see him forcing

709
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: the defense to focus on him every play. What do

710
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: you think, Well, one thing the forty nine is really

711
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: benefited from is their offensive line. As a run blocking

712
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: unit was excellent. But they basically have seven offensive lineman.

713
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: They have the five who are literally offensive lineman. They

714
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: have the best fullback in the league, Kyle us Chick

715
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: also known as Juice, who is a great blocker, and

716
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: then they have arguably the best blocking tight end in

717
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: the league. So when we talk about the Shanahan run game,

718
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about the zone scheme. They basically

719
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: have seven guys blocking for them and all their wide

720
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: receivers block, So your guys offensive line is not very good.

721
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Speaker 1: And listen, maybe he'll be much healthier this year because

722
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: he was coming off the A c L. The thing

723
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: that made say Kwan so special was he was so elusive.

724
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: He had such great change in direction and feet could

725
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: make you miss. His high end speed was elite. I

726
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: think it's high end speed was as good as it

727
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: was in the NFL. Remember there was a plan like

728
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. I think his rookie year where he

729
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: split the two Eagles defenders and they didn't even touch

730
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: him and he scored. I'm not saying Deebo was ever

731
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: that fast, but Debos pretty fast. Debo's play speed is excellent.

732
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Sa Kwan's play speed last year was average. So if

733
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be if he's not gonna have high

734
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: end play speed, then it's hard for him to do that. Now,

735
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: if he gets back to what he was as a rookie,

736
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: then yeah, you can use him like a decoy. You

737
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: can use them all sorts of roles. But like when

738
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: you can't block up front, it does make it more challenging.

739
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: Part of the reason demos seven people blocking for him

740
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: on most place, that's we don't talk about it because

741
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: talking about tight ends and fullbacks blocking is not a

742
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: sexy thing. But that's just a fact. Huge fan of

743
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: the Pod, lifelong Packers fan. My question is what is

744
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: rogers worst playoff loss of his career? After all these losses,

745
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I can't tell what is the worst one with the

746
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: potential to go win a Super Bowl? Thanks hope you respond,

747
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: and I can hear your response. Well, two years ago

748
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: in the COVID year when he lost to Brady. Ultimately

749
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: he lost to Tom Brady. So I have a hard

750
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: time going. You know, he lost to Tom Brady. And

751
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: in eleven I think that did they go fifteen and

752
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: one and he won the m v P and they

753
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: were defending Super Bowl champs. He that was the game

754
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: that Coughlin I think froze his face off, or that

755
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: might have been the farv game. I don't know. He

756
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Coughlin beat him twice in Green Bay,

757
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: not him, but the Packers one was far of one

758
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: was Rogers. You know, ultimately Eli and Coughlin then beat

759
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, Brady again to me, I don't know. I'm

760
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: not gonna bring it up right now. I feel like

761
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: that lost. He was a six and a half point

762
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: favorite at home against Jimmy Garoppolo, and then the forty

763
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Niners did not score an offensive touchdown like ultimately the

764
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Bucks scored touchdowns. If I told you that Aaron Rodgers

765
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't have one of the best seasons of his career,

766
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the best player in the league home playoff game loses

767
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: to a team that does not score an offensive touchdown

768
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: and Davante is healthy, I I think that's pretty hard

769
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: to stomach. I think the forty Niner game is the

770
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: worst loss of his career because it was there, like

771
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: he didn't need to be Brett Farve or you know,

772
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Stabler, Like we didn't need some all time great game.

773
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: He just needed to be better than he was. He

774
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: didn't even need an MVP level performance. But to lose

775
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: to that team, I mean the Niners were on fumes.

776
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: Uh any NFL team? UH love your podcasts? Are you

777
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: still doing scout for any NFL team? I'm coaching in

778
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: a pro league in Mexico. Trent Richardson is playing on

779
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: our team. Anyway, we have a very unique talent playing

780
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: in our team, name one Monigo. Can you help me

781
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: spread his game film? Do it on YouTube? Baby? The

782
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: NFL is keeping tabs on you. That's the scouts get

783
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: paid to keep tabs on you. No more scouting for me,

784
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: just talking. Uh, that's pretty cool. You're Scott in Mexico

785
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: League or working for Mexico League obviously the NFL. I

786
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: think the forty Niners and the Cardinals play in Mexico

787
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: next year. I have a question that no one seems

788
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: to be asking. Tom Brady has been dominant well into

789
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: his forties, as we all know, and as he is

790
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: approaching his age forty five season, would it be foolish

791
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: to think, with all the off field retirement drama, the

792
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: massive Fox deal, and the Dolphins news, to think that

793
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: this is the year the Bucks and Brady fall off

794
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: a cliff, especially since they have several key departures on

795
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Well part of what makes sports the craziest. Like, Ultimately,

796
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the economy we are headed toward a disaster.

797
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not a quote unquote disaster, but major problems

798
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: and listens google a history book recessions and economic slowdowns

799
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: happen every eight to twelve years in the history of time.

800
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: That's the way the world works. Well, Charles Barkley has

801
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: been saying this on TV since I can't remember nothing,

802
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: and no individual outlaw father time. Now Tom Brady has

803
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: done it better than literally every athlete in the history

804
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: of professional sports in this country. But Peyton Manning and

805
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos kicked ass for three years. Kicked ass.

806
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: They were awesome, they were putting up crazy numbers, they

807
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: were dominating. Then all of a sudden it was over

808
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: and he couldn't throw. Ironically, they won a Super Bowl

809
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: his last year when he couldn't throw. But Tom Brady,

810
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it's gonna look like that. You know.

811
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Peyton had the back surgery, so that was always like

812
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: eventually maybe his body was gonna go. Tom has had

813
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: one major injury, and that happened what fourteen years ago

814
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, when he tores a c L.

815
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: So Tom has been relatively healthy. I mean, he's had

816
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Nixon bruises over the years, but I mean, as a

817
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: guy missed the game in fourteen years, I'm pretty sure

818
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: besides suspension when Roger Goodell screwed him for the flake,

819
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's missed the game. Now, could

820
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: they fall off a cliff? Yeah, I mean there's a

821
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. You just never know. Now. I

822
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: don't think it would look like Peyton Manning. I don't

823
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: think it would look like Ben Roethlisberger. But you never

824
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: know when it's coming until it's there and then you go,

825
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, something's happening. Now. It's hard because every

826
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: time anyone thought Tom Brady was gonna slow down, he

827
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: not only didn't slow down and he won. So I'm

828
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: not gonna bet against Tom Brady. But eventually it's gonna happen.

829
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: Like there's gonna be a season where I don't know

830
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: if he's gonna suck, but he's not gonna be a

831
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Speaker 1: top five quarterback. And you would say at five, I mean,

832
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Speaker 1: how long is this gonna go? Is he gonna be

833
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: able to play quarterback till he's forty eight? Now it

834
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: feels like is he gonna retire after this season? Is

835
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: he gonna go play for the Miami Dolphins? I don't know,

836
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: But who's to say? Lifelong Raider fan from the first

837
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Oakland run, I do not understand not picking up Jacob's

838
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: fifth year option, as when he is healthy, he is

839
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: a top ten back. So if he's healthy and productive

840
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: this year, he walks for nothing or you have to franchise,

841
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: costing even more. Your thoughts on this well as a

842
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 1: running back, like, ultimately they don't think that paying Josh

843
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Jacobs fourteen million dollars is worth it even if he

844
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: is fully healthy, and I don't disagree. I don't think

845
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: ideally you want to be paying a running back unless

846
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: he is like Walter Payton in his prime or maybe

847
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry million dollars. I think we consistently see it

848
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: not pan out. Alvin Kamara gets paid up and down

849
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: injured now in trouble, Dalvin Cook always hurt, Zeke falls

850
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: off a cliff. Would you just rather have like three

851
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Speaker 1: running backs on rookie deals? So I think it's just

852
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Speaker 1: simply when Josh Jacobs is healthy, he's really good. I

853
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I don't like tying up money

854
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Speaker 1: in my cap when I'm paying Max Crosby, Derek Carr,

855
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Hunter, Renfro, Darren Waller to paying a running

856
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Speaker 1: back because I think I can draft random running backs

857
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: look at the Patriots. They got a bunch of random

858
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Speaker 1: guys and they ran the ball down people's throats. So

859
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Speaker 1: I think that at is the reason they didn't pick

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Speaker 1: it up. One is it's been hit or missed with

861
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: his health, but they just don't view paying a guy,

862
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Speaker 1: especially one that gets injured, you know, twelve million dollars,

863
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's the wrong decision. You and

864
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: many sports personalities argue Seattle should attempt to acquire Baker

865
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Speaker 1: Mayfield or Jimmy g From a talent perspective, I agree

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00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: Baker and Jimmy are upgrades over Drew Lock. However, given

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00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: the state of Seattle's roster, what is the point an

868
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: upgraded quarterback might get Seattle four or five wins instead

869
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: of two or three and take them out of the

870
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: number one draft pick contention. I think Seattle is bluffing

871
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: their belief and Drew Lock in order to justify bottoming

872
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: out in rebuilding thoughts. Again, my stance on this has

873
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: not changed. Pete Carroll and John Schneider are trying to win,

874
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Especially Pete. I promise you that John Schneider might be

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00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: cool with it if he's been given assurances. I know

876
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: he's on a long term deal in making money. But

877
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: we know these teams can pay anyone to go away.

878
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Like the NFL. I mean, what if they win three

879
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: games and they both get fired. Whoever takes over that job.

880
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: It's a great job if they have the number one

881
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: overall pick, but what if you're those guys. It one

882
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: risky part of football, And I would just say pro

883
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: sports in general, like Paul Allen is no longer alive.

884
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: They're dealing with the sisters. Who's to say that they

885
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: won't sell that team? And then a new owner comes

886
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: in and you're not a sacred cow to that new owner.

887
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think either of them are

888
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: guaranteed if they have a three win season to be

889
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: brought back. I'm not saying they get fired, but I

890
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: just I don't think you ever know. And I think

891
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: with the way the NFL is, gms and coaches always

892
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: try to win, they always do right or wrong. I

893
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: don't think like that. I'm in agreement they should suck

894
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: and try to get the number one overall pick and

895
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. But what if they what if John

896
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: and Pete were sitting right here and be like, yeah,

897
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: what if I we win three games and I'm fired.

898
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: If I'm Pete Carroll, I'm seventy two years old, I'm

899
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: never gonna be head coach again. Now, Schneider has a

900
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: long resume rights that a lot of success, But you're

901
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: never guaranteed to get a second GM job. That's not

902
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: the way it works. You're You're just not. Why do

903
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: you think kickers and special teams do not get talked

904
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: about when talking about games? Guys like Justin Tucker, I

905
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: think are big factors when it comes to play calling

906
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Layton games. I know they aren't as sexy as receivers

907
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: or pass rushers, but I think they separate good and

908
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: mediocre teams. I agree, when you have a good kicker

909
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: and you have a good punter, it is a huge

910
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: point of difference for your team. Right, the punter can

911
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: create fuel position constantly, and the kicker, when he is

912
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: nails from fifty five in n you're always in scoring

913
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: range once you cross midfield, or at least not far

914
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: away from it, so it helps your play calling. I

915
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: think you hit the nail on the head. It's not

916
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: fun to talk about kickers and punters, right you ever

917
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: play golf? No One talks about putting, you talk about

918
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: hitting three woods and drivers. Right, football is the same

919
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: way you talk about scoring touchdowns. You thought about throwing bombs,

920
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: you talk about sacking the quarterback. No, No one talks

921
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: about Justin Tucker until you need Justin Tucker and it

922
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: kicks a sixty four year old game winning field goal

923
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: and everyone's hugging him at midfield and Justin Tucker like

924
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: Adam Vin and Terry probably some of the most famous

925
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: kickers of all time. Matt from Australia have a question

926
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: after listening to the latest pod. Contracts are getting bigger

927
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: and bigger in the cash department. We all know guys

928
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: these days get paid more money, but would love to

929
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: know if that's relative to ten twenty years ago. Instead

930
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: of talking money anymore, let's start talking percentage of the

931
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: cap hit the player is taking. I think that will

932
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: really show where each position is trending and the importance

933
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: of the guy in the results driven league. Stay golden

934
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: by man. I don't think you're wrong. That would just

935
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: take effort and if an intern or someone wants to

936
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: do a little research. I think guys have always made

937
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Right, there's a big difference even

938
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: in the day and age when things are more expensive

939
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: and inflation. I love it when they're like inflations a percent,

940
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: not where I live. Where I live, it's about and

941
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: the cities I've been in the last year, the Bay Area,

942
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: l A. And Scott's sale. It ain't close to eight nine.

943
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: It's much closer to But like, you make forty million dollars,

944
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: I don't care how expensive things are. That's a lot

945
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: of money. Now if you made five million dollars in

946
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: ninety five, that was a lot of money too. I

947
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: also think it's relative to how much money everyone else

948
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: is making. Like now, if you make a million dollars,

949
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: that's still a ton of money. But I remember when

950
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: someone made a million dollars, like when I was in

951
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: junior high and like ninety six, that was a shipload

952
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: of money because you could buy an enormous house for

953
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: a million dollars in nice areas. Now you're not sniffing

954
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: a nice house for three x that. So now is

955
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: two and a half three million dollars the old million dollars.

956
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: I remember getting a job out of college for sixty

957
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: seventy grand. Well is that now a hundred grand? So

958
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: to me, money is always relative, right, Things used to

959
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: cost less. Things cost more relative to how much people

960
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: are making in your industry, relative to how much things

961
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: cost in society. Also, the cap like to me, the

962
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: cap wasn't that relative, right? Guaranteed money has changed. I

963
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Uh that wou'd be a fun exercise? Uh?

964
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Probably too late? But who would you got to win

965
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: this thing? Can't imagine? Isn't Rory Chef ram or more

966
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Kala so much firepower in the top ten. I took

967
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Burns at twenty one just because he seems like value.

968
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: I had a ticket on Salators to one. Obviously, mass

969
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick won it. Fantastic tournament there is. Football is an

970
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: incredible sport to gamble on. Golf is fun. If you

971
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: have a guy on Sunday in the mix and you

972
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: have a ticket for him to win or the top five,

973
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: it is thrilling. And I promise you now I love golf,

974
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: but if you enjoy gambling, I'll promise you Gambling on

975
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: golf is a wild ride if if you are close

976
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: to being in the mix to some cash, it is very,

977
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: very fun, and part of it is a hundred dollars

978
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: I had on Will's Alatorus if he want, I would

979
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: have made. If I put a hundred dollars on the

980
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: bills playing the Jets, I'm probably gonna make ninety dollars. Right.

981
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: There's just nothing like the return on investment in golf.

982
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: Gambling now, it's hard if I bet on the bills

983
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: like I basically have at to win. If you've been

984
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: on golf, it's not even close to that. It's very,

985
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: very small percentages. But the high and the juice of

986
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: being in the mix is I mean, Havin's Alatorus on

987
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: Sunday at the US Open. I mean I'm pacing around

988
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: my house that put on eighteen. I mean I I

989
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: could barely watch. He missed it, but God, I thought

990
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: he had it. That one's gonna hurt me. I appreciate

991
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Fire in those direct messages. I need you, guys,

992
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: I need I'm calling for you, guys. My Instagram is

993
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 1: my name. Firing those d m s and let's talk

994
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Speaker 1: audios at middle cough seal the volume