1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron and Aien. In order to solve hard problems, I've 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: got to eliminate the obvious. I've got to eliminate what's good. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: And if I eliminate all that's good, eventually I'll find 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: what's bad. The Car Doctor. I'm wondering if there's a 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: way to take the high beam assembly out, so to speak. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: And as silly as this sounds, brush paint over the 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: chrome a flat black finish. Welcome to the radio home 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he's running. Hey, Welcome, 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: time to start your engines. Eight five five five six 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero Ron and Nating the Car Doctor. 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: Here at the helm is always Car Doctors Show dot Com, 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: tune in, i heart iTunes, all places you can take podcasting, 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: some of which some places you can subscribe at Car 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com, tune in, i heart iTunes dot com. 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: All good places to go for podcasting ron at Car 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com if you need me during the week. 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: And we've talked from time to time you and I 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: about your car and its problems and what's going on here, 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: and um, you know this is the gig folks, this 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: is uh here I am. You know, Monday through Friday, 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: it's fixed the car. Saturday it's the weekend. Let's talk 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: about the car. And UM, I should point out to 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: that this is a nationally syndicated show out across eight 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: somewhat affiliates and more. Sometimes I think that number is 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: is a miske because I see bigger numbers than that. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, everybody's not reporting you guys gotta play 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: the game fair. But um, five five six zero seven number. 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: So you know we're on different affiliates, different times, different places. 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: As there delayed and taken around the country. You can 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: call that number any time, day or night. That is 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a seven number. Eight five five five six zero nine 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: zero zero. See I slowed it down that time so 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: everybody can because everybody goes you say it too fast. 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I go if if zero nine zero, everybody can understand 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: that it's a Jersey thing, right, It's that Jersey attitude 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: and um, yes, sir. All we have to do is 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: uh have everybody hold a recorder up to the radio 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: and I'll just play the touchstones and they can hold 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: that up to their phone when they're ready. See that's 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: the broadcast engineer side of you coming out. That's the 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: fun part of me. That's the fun part of you. 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: I know. It's he's he's tough around the back office, folks, 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: trust me. Tom Ray my illustrious board op chief engineer, 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: head cook, bottle washer, and he's doing everything today is 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: Tony's a mom is visiting, so Tony's off today. But um, 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to point out that phone number is seven. 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: You can call it any time, day or night and 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: leave a message and we will call you back. Tom 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: will actually call you back, and um, you know Tom's 55 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: on twenty four. Tom doesn't sleep, So Tom's like a machine. 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: He just goes all the time. And I'll call you 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: back and get you in the queue for the next 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: broadcast and we can talk to you about your card, 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: it's problem, whatever that might be. We have on hold 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: from our previous hour, something we don't do often, but 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: we do it every once in a while for those 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: of you still hanging out. We're waiting to talk to 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: showing from Wisconsin explore with an intermittent misfire or becoming 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: a more steady misfire on cylinder number three as he's 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: under a light acceleration lightload, showing you're still there? Yeah, 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm still here. Okay, So a couple of things. Number one, 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: you scanned it for codes and you're getting a P 68 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: zero three oh three? Right? No, I I haven't scanned 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: it for codes. Uh, I have no engine check light whatsoever. Well, 70 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: what makes you think it's a misfire on number three? 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Or did I get my information wrong? No, you're right. 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: When I pulled the plugs out of all six on 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: number three, different than all the rest, and so that 74 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: and it's right and hot spot. It sits in the coils, 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: it sits right over the top of that injector there. 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: And when I put the new plugs in, it ran 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: fine for about two weeks and then it started up again. 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's getting too much fuel at cold 79 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: weather startup. So you're you're jokes on. So you think 80 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: leans up after it runs a bit? Do you think 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: you're fouling the plug on number three? I think so okay, 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, um, do you own 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: a lawnmower or a snowblower? Yes? I do? All right? 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: You ever fell a spark plug? There? Yep? Okay? What 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: what made that spark plug foul I'm just curious what 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: you've run into in your career, usually having a choke 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: on too long? Right? Fair point fuel? Right? Do you 88 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: ever have you ever have a spark plug foul out 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: because it burnt the valve or you had a mechanical 90 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: problem in the cylinder? Well? Usually run you know, you're 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: running a little compression of that you load up with oil, 92 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: the rings are gone or something like that, and it 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: will load up with oil and stuff. But yeah, I've 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: had that to so you know, it's it's it's what 95 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: you're seeing is the indicator. You're not seeing the cause. 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: So now we've got to try and sort out the cause. 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: One of the best ways to do it. Everybody kind 98 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: of leans towards uh oh, you got to intake leak. 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: But if you have an intake leak that's constant all time, well, 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: let's prove it. I'll tell you what. Let's prove it. Okay, 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: let's prove what this is all right, and I'm gonna 102 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the exception for you that now we're 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna prove what this is, so you know you've got 104 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: one plug that's physically different than the others. The first 105 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: thing I want somebody to do is I want somebody 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: to scan this for codes. I don't care what the 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: plug looks like. I just want to make sure I'm 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: not missing anything. I also want to scan even though 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: it's a ninety nine. I'm trying to teach you guys 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: how to diagnose, not just fix the ninety nine Explore. 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: So I don't care if a ninety nine Explorer is 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: what you're working on or a teen Explorers what you're 113 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: working on. Alright, I want to approach it sort of 114 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: the same way. I want to know what, what if 115 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: any computer modules are reporting, what if any fault codes exist? 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: So I want to complete vehicle code scan. I don't 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: care if you come back and it comes back with 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: the report that says the left or tail light bulb 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: is on the verge of burning out. I want that 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: in the vehicle history at least I know. All right, Um, 121 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I also want to take a look at I also 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: want you to take a look at pending codes. You know, 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: this is the weekend. By the middle of next week, Sean, 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: you may have a head cold. Your body is already 125 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: starting to build a case for that pending failure today, 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: all right, the car is building a case for the 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: pending failure that's gonna happen next week today, and that 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: information maybe there and pending. All right. So that's the 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: second thing. Third thing, I don't think this will be successful, 130 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: but I want you to try in It wasn't great, 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: but I want you to take a look at mode 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: six data. Mode six data is very mysterious, it's very scary, 133 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: but at least I want you aware of it. It 134 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: is the decision making part of the computer that will 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: decide whether or not and what if and when to 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: set a fault code. All right. It will show you numbers. 137 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: And the reason I want you to look at that 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: if it's available, which it should be depending upon your 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: scan tool, is you may see the plug failing on 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: number three, But how do you know cylinder too doesn't 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: necessarily have the same problem, but not quite as bad. 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: It just hasn't affected the plug yet. Right when when 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: you go when you when you go to the doctor 144 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: and you go doc, my, my, you know I'm having 145 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: a hard time breathing. Does he just worry about your nose? Right? 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: What do they do? You turn your head and cough, 147 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: You get the finger, you get that, you get the 148 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: chest X ray, you get the herd test. I mean 149 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: they look at everything. Baby, there's a reason for that. Okay, 150 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: So you know, go ahead, just same. So so I 151 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: want I want to just I just want to see 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: do I have an issue? The next thing I want 153 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: you to do. Do you have a scan tool? No, 154 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I can get a scan tool, all right. 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I want you to get the vehicle warmed up to 156 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: operating temperature, and I want you to hook up and 157 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I want you to look at fuel trim and I 158 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: want you to look at oxygen sensors when the vehicle 159 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: is experiencing the problem. Now, now realize, Um, you go 160 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: grocery shopping, sean of course, right. You know if you 161 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: go to the supermarket and you buy twelve bags of groceries, 162 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: do you try to carry in all twelve bags at once? No? Right, 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: slows you down, It's too much work, all right? If 164 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: you use an O B D two scan tool, there's 165 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: probably easily thirty five pits, thirty five pieces of information 166 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: you can look at. Now, we're trying to make that 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: tool work as fast and efficiently as possible. Do you 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be faster reporting all thirty five or 169 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: just five or six of the critical ones were interested in. 170 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the five or six we're interested in. Right. So, 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: so that being said, I want you to look and 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: see does this this vehicle should report long and short 173 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: term fuel trim all right? This vehicle should also report 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: upstream and downstream oxygen sensors. Okay, you know you can. 175 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: You can google this. Thank god for Google. Google does 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: help fill fixed cars when we use the internet properly. 177 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I want you to study a little bit about a 178 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: two censors. Oh, two censors if you don't know, two 179 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: sensors are an indicator of whether the fuel mixture is 180 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: rich or lean. I want you to graph, alright, so 181 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 1: we don't look at it by the number the digital representation. 182 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: I want a graphic picture, a picture, and no two 183 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: censor will rise and fall. That's its operation. It's just 184 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: a constant up and down and up and down and 185 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: up and down. It's a curve. When that misfire occur 186 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: depending upon how good your scan tool is. You should 187 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: see if this is a problem in the cylinder, it's 188 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,239 Speaker 1: going to affect oxygen content, all right, if if you 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: if it's running real rich, I'm gonna get a big 190 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: fault there, right, bingo bingo? Baby? You know when you 191 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: go running the track, all right, If you went running 192 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the track and you blocked off your left nostril, it's 193 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: gonna change how you breathe right, the same thing, all right. 194 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: If if something is changing the way this engine is 195 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: breathing in the way of a misfire, it misses a step, 196 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: or a valve hangs open, or or it's got too 197 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: much fuel. It's over fueling that cylinder, it's going to 198 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: change the way that o two cents or reports it 199 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: all right? If it if it hangs high, it means 200 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: one thing. If it hangs low, it means another. Go 201 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: get me some information. Call me next week. I will 202 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna go out and run a compression 203 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: test on right now and anywhere, and and and keep 204 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: in mind, compression as great as a starting point. I 205 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: don't discourage it, but there's a huge difference in terms 206 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: of engine load there's a huge difference in the way 207 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: your body reacts standing still and trying to run a 208 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: three minute mile. So underload, under dress, that engine is 209 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna work differently. Um, what you what you could also 210 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: do if you have the ability, if you have a 211 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: Boord scope, if your brother in law has got a 212 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Boord scope, I'd be looking at the cylinder for carbon deposits. 213 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Do we have any carbon on the valves? You know, 214 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: a good old fashioned carbon cleaning wouldn't hurt in this 215 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: application either. Do you have an Oiley ODO parts by you? Yeah? Yeah, 216 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Berryman and I I rant some some of that carbon 217 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: inject or cleaner through it already and it seemed to 218 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: help it for a while. Right the Berryman's the Berryman 219 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaner. Uh the sea phone. Now try some Berryman. 220 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: Get back to orileytor Parts, Go look up some Berryman 221 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaner. Um, that that has technology real he 222 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: does work. And if you're seeing if you're seeing a 223 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: result with other than the bary mental work better and 224 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: see if that that that should help it or at 225 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: least if it doesn't, it tells us maybe we don't 226 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: have a carbon issue. But it's a good cheap first step. 227 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: All right, sir, all right, you got some work to 228 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: do sewing you let me know what happens. We'll go 229 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: from there. You take good care. Thank you very much. 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Eight five five five 231 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: six zero nine zero zero. You know Berryman Berryman Fuel Products, 232 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Berryman Fuel Products dot com. Um, the Berryman stuff really 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: does work. We'll come back from the break. I'll make 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: sure if you got the right quick web address. That 235 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: may not be it, but anyway, rondating the car Doctor, 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: don't go away, We're coming right back. Hey, welcome back, 237 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor rolling alongate five five five 238 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's get over to Joe and Lansing, Michigan. 239 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: O seven saturn ion and some issues. Joe. Welcome to 240 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yeah? Hey, 241 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I look your show. Let's to you all times. Thank 242 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: you man. I appreciate you being there. What's uh? What 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: can I do for you health? How are things out there? 244 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: And lancing? Let me ask you a question real quick, uh, Lansing, Michigan. 245 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: Is that is that near the cruise? That's is that? 246 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: You know? I don't know my geography real well? They 247 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: don't let me have a new jersey a lot? Um 248 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: are you we? Um? We had the Cruise, and and 249 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: then we had Cruise the Gut. Um, we had crews. 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: The Gut. It's uh, it's a street in downtown. They 251 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: call it the Gut. And every couple of times during 252 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: the summer they had a they had a sweet car 253 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: show down there, all the old cars and all the classics, 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: all the out rods. They used to go down there 255 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: and park down the side of the street and everybody 256 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: would just you know, walk down and check the cars out. Yeah, 257 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: is it is it? Is it really that big a site? 258 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: As they say? Um, well, it went down maybe five 259 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: six blocks, it was. It was. It was a pretty 260 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: bigger attraction. Let me let me ask you. You've been 261 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: going to that cruise long? Um, I'd say probably maybe, 262 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Oh God, good good years. Yeah. Do you think it's 263 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: getting bigger or smaller? I'm gonna say it's getting getting smaller. 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Isn't that? Isn't that sad? Right? Like? Uh, you know 265 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: it's it's yeah, it makes no sense. Um. Uh, you know, 266 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: you're you're just seeing it's sad in a way because 267 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're sort of seeing the end of an industry, 268 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: the end of an era. Um. Uh you know. So 269 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: but anyway, what can I do you for, sir? How 270 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: can I help? Yeah? My uh set ion. I have 271 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: coolant light that comes on and it deigns, and it 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, does all these little things whatever I give 273 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: it gas Now it doesn't. It doesn't do that all 274 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the time. It doesn't most when like if I'm getting 275 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: on the highway, I'm on the ram um and and 276 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: as soon as I get on the highway, you know, 277 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: to accelerate, the cooling comes on and it and it 278 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: also doesn't when I first started up at the beginning 279 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: of the day. It's just I don't know the cooling, right, 280 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: it just it just comes on. Now the car is 281 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with the car and it's fine, the 282 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: cooling all the all the levels or I don't well, 283 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: the only the only the only connection I can see here. Uh. 284 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: The only two thoughts I would have is one, do 285 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: we have a sender in the bottle? You know, because 286 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a sender in the cooling bottle. Uh, 287 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: that's that's you know. Do I have a center that's 288 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: sticky stuck um sticking you know and and holding the 289 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: light on, or do I have a problem in the 290 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: wiring harness that I'm creating a short or a short 291 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: to ground? Is it? You know? What's it doing? I 292 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: wonder if in two thousand seven, then how smart the 293 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: technology was, and I'm sort of thinking it was because 294 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: this was the generation GM was really looking hard at coolant. 295 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: If we could bring that up on a scan tool. 296 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if the bc M, because the body computer 297 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: is what controls the signal to the e c M, 298 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: and if that's cool and switches open thirty seconds or longer, 299 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the BCM tells the e c M to turn the 300 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: coolant light on. So there's a lot of conversation going 301 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: on here on the data bus. I'm wondering what we 302 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: would see on a scan tool. I'm wondering if it 303 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: is monitoring it and reports it as a pit. You know, 304 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: if you could go into the b c M with 305 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: a scan tool and it says coolant light on or off? 306 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: What would it say if if the if the lights 307 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: not showing, if it's not showing a change of state 308 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: on the scan tool, but yet the lights flashing on 309 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: the dashboard, then I've got strictly a wiring issue dashboard 310 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: or wiring harness related something like that. If it's if 311 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: it's physically showing the state of change, then I'm gonna 312 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: start to say, why is it showing a state of change? 313 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Do I have an input incorrect input from the sensor 314 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: when I'm not supposed to and I would want to 315 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: go and test that, Or do I have a B 316 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: C M T E C M communication fault? You know, 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: so I would try to break it down like that. 318 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Does that? Does that make sense? Is that clear it 319 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: up for you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I haven't. Um, I 320 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: don't have a scan tool and you know I haven't. 321 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: I haven't took it in anywhere yet. I just you know, 322 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: I want to see what you think. Yeah, that's what 323 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I would be that That's where I would be, Uh, 324 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: That's what I would be looking at and thinking about, 325 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: all right, sir? So okay, alright, I appreciate the yes, sir. 326 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was just one more thing around. A 327 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: synthetic oil should I be put in my car? Yeah? 328 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, listen, the oil conversation is simple, 329 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: all right. The tolerances of the way engines were built 330 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and what we asked oil to do five years ago 331 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: is very different today. So from two thousand seven to today, 332 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: it's like the right brothers to the Space Shuttle. Uh, 333 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: you know it's you know, synthetic has gotten a lot better. 334 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Synthetic is the way to go. All right. I think 335 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: that you're really buying the oil company when you buy oil. 336 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: All right, we talked about Penn's oil here all the time. 337 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: Penns Oil Synthetics dot com for more information. Uh, really 338 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: great based stock that they work from. But yeah, synthetic 339 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: would be a good way to go on that on 340 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: that Saturn and uh, get the best maximum protection while needing. 341 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: The car doctor put theming back right after this. Hey, 342 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: we are back. We're on needing the car docr A 343 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: five five by six zero nine zero zero, hitting on 344 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: all eight cylinders and rolling along. Let's get over to 345 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: Chuck in Texas, Oh nine f one fifty and some 346 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: questions about spark plugs and performance. Chuck. Welcome to the 347 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, Ryan, thank 348 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: you for taking my call. I really appreciate it. You're welcome. 349 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: What's going on, kiddo? How's the weather down there? And thick? 350 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: Just today? Oh, it's it's eight and nice, nice, and 351 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: sonny and strong and it's it's it's great. Now. Now 352 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: now you're in Katie, Texas. Correct, Yes, sir, that's West Houston. 353 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: So that's west So because I just bought a seventies Houston, 354 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: all right, because I just bought a seventy two Monte 355 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Carlo when it came out of Minard, Texas. Is that 356 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: is that near Katie? No? No, yeah, nothing, nothing's near 357 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: anything in Texas. I've learned that. You know, it's a 358 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: big straight but it's a big state. Baby. Around the 359 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: block is three miles, you know, it's sure. I got 360 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: lost here for my sister's wedding and I went to 361 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: a gas station. I said, I'm going to this place 362 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to go to the reception where it's all about five miles. 363 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: It ended up being ken Yeah. Yeah, everything, it's always 364 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: bigger in Texas. Baby, So anyway, how can I how 365 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: can I help you today? Okay? But listen, the last 366 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: we talked, we talked about the two piece plug at 367 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: my oh five, I mean two right, right, you got 368 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: you got me through that and that worked, okay, but 369 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: I upgraded to a two thousand nine. Boy, this is 370 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: this is a Texas Cadillac. It is. It got all 371 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: the wizards and bells, is beautiful. However, I watched, as 372 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I usually do a lot of stuff on YouTube that 373 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: I can learn from. Of course you're the guru, but 374 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: YouTube is my second education source. I watched this guy 375 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: do a front timing chain gears and alignement and replace 376 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: and two points one. He showed me the venturi that 377 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: comes out for the timing chain lubrication and they I'll 378 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: tell you what, that's maybe an eighth inch wide and 379 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: the sixteen in deep. So now I know why you 380 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: express about synthetic pound pound pounding through my head. Oh, 381 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, it's it's you know. And and 382 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: the fact is that the tolerances you know, that's two 383 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: thousand nine. Start looking at the teen chuck, it's it's 384 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: it's absolutely amazing. We we went. I went to class 385 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: this week for Chrysler. It's a multi year system. It's 386 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: a different way of variable valve timing, thousand p s 387 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: I pressure on the on the hydraulic lift. I mean, 388 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy stuff. And yet and yet there's still gonna 389 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: be people out here telling me, well, I want to 390 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: change my oil every twenty thousand miles lord, No, it's okay, 391 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: listen anyway. Point alright, So I watch the YouTube video 392 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: and this guy is telling me. He said, if you 393 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: got anything midyear two thousand and eight, after the heads 394 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: were redesigned where they got away from the two piece plug, 395 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: if you take yours, call pack off and you pull 396 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: your boot out and it's red, you're good to go. 397 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: Is that true? I haven't heard that one. My understanding 398 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: is that the engine build date determines whether or not 399 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: it's a two piece plug, and if it's if it's 400 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: a five four um. If the build date is before 401 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: October nine of two thousand seven, then it is not. 402 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Then it's that is a two piece plug. After October 403 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: nine of two thousand seven, it is a one piece plug. 404 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: So I'm good to go with two thousand nine. Yeah, 405 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: I think a two thousand nine you're gonna be safe. 406 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: So what I would tell you to do is a 407 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: go buy the new ones, and the new ones are 408 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a real long thread. You talk about two 409 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: long Yeah, you talk about big things from Texas. Baby, 410 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: those spark plugs had to be built in Texas because 411 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: they are the longest thread plug I have ever seen. Uh, 412 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's and I would tell you 413 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: do it called, pull one of the coils out and 414 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: blow the I hate to interrupt. They say do it warm. 415 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I like doing them cool. I won't do them. I 416 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: won't do them. I won't do them real warm. Um. 417 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: I like a cold because I'll usually get them to 418 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: crack easier. All right, okay, yeah, they say, spray break 419 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: cleaner down in there? What you crack them? Who's they 420 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: YouTube videos it? You know? Core turns spray spray break cleaner. 421 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: It sit for twenty minutes and then it work it 422 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: back and forth, get it out. Are they talking about 423 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: with the two piece plug or a regular odditional one piece? Yeah? See, 424 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: I've never done it that way. I'll make sure. I'll 425 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: make sure that the well is clean. I'll make make 426 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: sure the well is clean. I'll tell you what what 427 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: I would probably do is not break clean. Actually, and 428 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: I correct myself. What I what I will do? I 429 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: just realized, right we're talking about the longer thread. I 430 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: will do this room temperature. I will clean out the well, 431 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: blow it out with a blowgun, and I will spray 432 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: a little liquid wrench or w D just some sort 433 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: of penetrum all right, and I'll let it soak for 434 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and then I'll just I'll tighten 435 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: it just to touch. Just try to crack it in 436 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: the tight position, and then see if it walks out. 437 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: Try that on one of the easier ones to get 438 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: out first. Don't start with the one in the back 439 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: and any special and you know, I don't know, I 440 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: want to change you absolutely. A motocraft. I would I 441 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: would put a motocraft back in this. It's a forward truck. 442 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: I would put a motocraft back in it. I put 443 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: a drop of engine oil on the threads and and 444 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: tork him to spec as best you can, and you 445 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: should be good to go. All right, listen, I'll tell 446 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: you what, chuck, don't run away. You know what we're 447 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna do. We're giving away from one of our sponsors, 448 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Super Chips, is allowing us to give away one of 449 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: their new dash pack in cabin controllers. I think you're 450 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: the guy that's going to appreciate this. This will give 451 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: question Well, this is this is gonna be sort of 452 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: like you're gonna have Ron and Ainy and on your dashboard. 453 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: You'll be able to sit there and tune the truck 454 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: this way that way and do what you want with it. 455 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: You can find more information out at their website and 456 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: if you stay on the line, Tom is going to 457 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: get your information. We'll send that out to you and 458 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: um naturally it's uh, it's courtesy the folks over at 459 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: super Chips. So you're very welcome, sir. You stay putting, 460 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I'll say hey and do me a favor. Run please, 461 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I will, and you by all means you give us 462 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: some feedback, let us know how it works. All right, 463 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: all right, you take good care. Zero nine zero zero 464 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Ronny and the Car Doctor. We're gonna pull over and 465 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: take a pause. We'll be back right after this. Dot 466 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Care welcome back on any Car Doctor. Help us here 467 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: at eight five zero nine nine zero zero. Car Doctor 468 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: Show dot Com, tune in i heeart, iTunes all places 469 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: to podcast and call eight five zero nine zero and 470 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: leave a message our executive producer Thomas Ray. We'll call 471 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: you back and get your Q for the next live broadcast. 472 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Dave banger Main eleven 473 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: two thousand, eleven Mercury, Graham Marquee. See what's going on here, Dave. 474 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor sir, how can I help? Well? 475 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Thanks taking my call on the Marquis. As you said, UM, 476 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: when I first started, UM in the morning, I get 477 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: a smell of fuel inside the car and can smell 478 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: it outside the car. Okay, dissipates within a couple of minutes, 479 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: but I can't fire out where it's coming from. Do 480 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: you think it's I mean, it's not from inside the car. 481 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: I think it's being pulled in from outside the vehicle. 482 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I know of no scenario where it would physically be 483 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: in the passenger compartment it do you you know, have 484 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: you tried starting to having somebody else start the car 485 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: and you stand front or back to see where the 486 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: smell is the strongest? All right? That would be number one? 487 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Is it? You know? Is it a is it an 488 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: exhaust type of a smell? You know, like it's it's 489 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a fuel rich condition or is it a 490 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: raw fuel condition? You know, like it's leaking somewhere. It 491 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: smells it's like a it's burning rich. Okay, Okay, so 492 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: it smells like it's running rich. So what I would 493 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: want to do? One of the common I mean, you know, 494 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, the conversation here has to involve a little 495 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: bit about charcoal canister and a saturated canister, too much 496 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: fuel in it, and it's creating a rich running condition, 497 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. But what's what's most common with with these 498 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: vehicles or what is common on this generation Ford product 499 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: is up on the fuel rail. There is a fuel 500 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: rail pressure sensor f r P, and you know it 501 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: is it is known. It actually set a fault code. 502 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: It'll actually set a P zero three. And maybe you 503 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: don't have a check engine light yet, maybe you're about to. 504 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a case of looking and pending fault codes 505 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: to see if there's anything there. But this may have 506 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: a sensor that's starting to leak and create that rich 507 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: running condition. Is your fuel economy changed at all? Do 508 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: you notice any difference in performance on the vehicle? I 509 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you about that. Um, I noticed the 510 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: gas the gas mallages is down compared to what it 511 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: was when I got it in January. Right, so I'm 512 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: only getting like fourteen around town? Okay, so you know 513 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe this is related to it's it's you know, cars 514 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: are cars are just they they'll they'll draw fuel from 515 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: wherever they want. Um And if that sensor is leaking 516 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: and it's not being accounted for. It's now going to 517 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: create a rich running condition. And you know, we've got 518 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: to start to look for places where additional fuel other 519 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: than the injectors, you know, via the fuel pump fuel 520 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: line will come in and that that fuel real pressure 521 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: sensor on the rail will have a vacuum line pulling 522 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: against it, and it just starts putting fuel up the 523 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: vacuum line and you're done. So, um, let's let's get 524 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: a look at that and verify that. And then, like 525 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: I said, let's also take a look at canister and 526 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, is the EVAPP system operating as intended? If 527 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: both of those check out, then the next thing I'm 528 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna want to do is a does the vehicle come 529 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: up to proper operating temperature? All right? Does it? Does it? 530 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, is it right on the ragged edge of 531 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: of cooling attempt? Does it come up to spec I'm 532 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: guessing off the top of my head a hun degrees 533 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: drive around town. But I would verify that, and then 534 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: where is long and short term fuel trim? We can 535 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: we can learn an awful lot from long and short 536 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: term fuel trim. I would I would have to say 537 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: fuel trim is probably the barometer for uh, you know, 538 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: the automotive industry. What heart rate and blood pressure is 539 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: when you go to the emergency room. Okay, you know 540 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of the critical things that we 541 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: want to look at, you know. And then last as 542 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: long as I said the word, probably one of the 543 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: easiest things to do that a lot of mechanics don't 544 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: do is you know, you know what's interesting, and I'll 545 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: tell it to you like like this, David Um on 546 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: the desktop on on one of my diagnostics on my 547 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: third Bay computer, I've got a link to the weather channel. 548 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: All right. You know, I go in every morning and 549 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: I look at the weather channel and I see what 550 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: the barometric pressure is for Waldwick, New Jersey. All right. 551 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Do you know why? Uh? Well, because when I plug 552 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: in my scan tool on whatever the first car is, 553 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: barometric pressure is one of the first things I look at, 554 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: depending on the problem. But I get in the habit 555 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: of looking at it, so I I get to learn 556 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: what known good is. And if barometric pressure is twenty 557 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: nine point nine five and the scan tool says barometric 558 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: pressure is twenty six point two, somebody's lying and Um 559 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: it's either the scan tool of the car, and it 560 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: may be related to the problem I've got and that 561 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: literally takes me all of you know, two minutes to 562 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: do so, um, you know, and if I've got a 563 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: rich running condition, you know, it's um. I don't know 564 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: if I'm paying you a compliment or not. But you 565 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: don't sound old enough to remember carburetors. Do you remember 566 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: carburetors driving carbureted cars? Barely? So I kind of I 567 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: can kind of tell I remember carbureted cars, all right, 568 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: And when you went from sea level to the mountains 569 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and vice versa, boy did that car change. And that's 570 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: where that barometric pressure thing came in. And uh, you know, 571 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: as well as in weather conditions, it played a big 572 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: part of it. So barometric pressure is a big, big look. See, 573 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: so let's do those couple of things. See what that 574 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: gets us, and then we'll kind of go from there. 575 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: All right, kid, appreciate it. You're very welcome. You have 576 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: a good rest of the day, Take good care. Nine zero. 577 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: The car doctors coming back right after this kind of 578 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: first resisting then it's in the biggest was the summer 579 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: six Hey, welcome back. Why don't they the card octorate 580 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: by five five zero nine nine zero zero as we 581 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: bring it in for the Checkered flag. Let's get over 582 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: and talk to Paul and Stanton, Virginia and anyone Bronco. Paul, 583 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the car, doctor, Sir, how can I help? Yes, sir, oh, 584 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to thank your uncle. But 585 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: what he did that was amazing. You know, people want 586 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: to know about it. They can't go online, but he's 587 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: shot down Nazi jet. Yeah, you know, you gotta get 588 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: not to get off the subject, but you gotta get 589 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve to talk about that one day, and one 590 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: day I will. And you know, the modesty and the humility. 591 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: It's like, Uncle Steve, how did you shoot down a 592 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: jet with a with a propeller airplane? He'll tell you 593 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: I was just lucky to dopey you you know what 594 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: SLB flew in front of me and I pulled the trigger. 595 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: He makes it sound like it was nothing. Um. But 596 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: yet he was one of the first to do that 597 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: and uh um. You know he's actually written up in 598 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: the New York Time Times for it, and uh you know, 599 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, I appreciate that, I really do. Uncle Stevens 600 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: specially two hero Thank you sir. Anyway, Bronco, you're going down, 601 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, cruise control on uh and uh really fine, 602 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: and then you get a momentary reduction of power. It's 603 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's not like a miss Uh. It's it's 604 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: more like like you're suddenly just towing something. And it's 605 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: a smooth kind of reduction of power that lasts just 606 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: share a few seconds. And at that same time, the 607 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: RPMs drop off from like two thousand, it drops off 608 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: about fifty RPMs And does it does it stay fifty 609 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: RPMs lower? Uh? Well, four of those just a couple 610 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: of seconds, and then it goes back to normal with 611 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: no need reset to cruise control of anything. I mean, 612 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: how you know my first question in my mind is 613 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: and I realized we're treading on such a minute rpm 614 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: drop here, you know, is this is this the trands 615 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: going into overdrive and you're just experiencing that drop as 616 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: it settles on its winds so to speak. Oh, No, 617 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: it's it's not. It's pretty much level, you know, it's 618 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: not it's not like it's not like there was a shift. 619 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: So it almost seems like it's transmission, but it isn't. 620 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Then and if it, if it came out of overdrive, 621 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: the RPMs would have gone up. Well, no, is it is? It? 622 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: Is it going into overdrive? And overdrive won't necessarily give 623 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: you a sensation of shift. The converter will just lock 624 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: on and you'll feel that, you know, because the engine 625 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: is starting to lug. What comes first the loss of 626 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: power or the fifty rpm dropped by the tack or 627 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: does it both happen at once? Uh? Yeah, it seems 628 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: to be. It's the same at the same time, and 629 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh at and three thousand RPMs. It is 630 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: an overdrive, okay, so if it, if it weren't, it 631 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: would be like another you know, m yeah. Well, and 632 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: that's the other thing. Fifty doesn't sound like enough for overdrive. 633 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: Have you tried while you're cruising along at seventy five 634 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: to tap the brake pedal to see if it has 635 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: any effect on it and change the way the trans 636 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: is operating? No, so I just well, if you're gonna 637 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: lose the cruise, yeah, that work. So you'd actually have 638 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: to hold it with your foot and tap the brake 639 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: pedal to see if that takes it out of If 640 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: it is an overdrive trans related problem. The only other 641 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: thing I could think of is to see if this 642 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: is a real condition being created by the engine. Is 643 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: can you hook up a vacuum gauge manifold vacuum, strap 644 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: it to the windshield, watch it while you're cruising nice 645 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: and steady, watch it go through the paces. Does vacuum 646 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: drop poll off? And a vacuum does drop off significantly? 647 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: And we have to start to talk about what could 648 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: create a momentary vacuum losses e g. R Opening up 649 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: or do we have another issue going on? So let's 650 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: um let's try it like that, Paul, and then give 651 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: me a call back next week. I'm running any of 652 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, get priceless. See 653 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: you